Could Ron Paul Win the Iowa Straw Poll?
- Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:38pm by
Madeleine Morgenstern
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Today’s Ames Straw Poll is expected to have a winnowing effect on the Republican candidates running for president, but could Texas Rep. Ron Paul, typically considered a long shot, come away from Iowa with a win?
The Washington Post reports:
[T]here is a strain of thinking that Paul could seriously challenge the likes of Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann and former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty for supremacy on Saturday.
“He’s got the supporter passion of a Bachmann with the organization of a Pawlenty,” said one senior Iowa Republican strategist unaffiliated with any of the campaigns. “He builds on 2007 and the caucus last time, and I think he can turn out the 3,000 votes he needs to win.”
The idea of a Paul straw poll victory — while beginning to be discussed more openly — is still far from expected.
Pawlenty has gone all out — organizationally and financially — to make his mark at Ames, recognizing that if he can’t win or come in a very close second it could very well spell the end of his campaign.
Bachmann, too, is making a major play at Ames — her Friday schedule is packed with five events designed to rally supporters in advance of the straw poll — and, if polling is to be believed, she looks something close to a frontrunner in the Iowa caucuses next year.
Still, Paul shelled out at least $31,000 in the state and has an extremely dedicated and energetic group of supporters — although it’s generally agreed that his chances will be largely based on how many voters show up to the poll. The larger the electorate, the less likely his supporters will be able to dominate the vote.
The campaign is being cautious to play down any expectations.
“Michele is pushing full force, Tim Pawlenty has an expensive team of top-drawer consultants and Mitt Romney, the national front runner, is working hard behind the scenes,” said Paul campaign manager Jesse Benton. “We hope to do well, compete with these big names and finish right there with them in the top four.”
But even with an Ames victory, remote as it may be, Paul would be unlikely to maintain the lead in the race.
“He won’t win the caucuses or be the nominee, but it will be a recognition that Iowans are looking for someone who will offer bold answers on our fiscal crisis,” said one Iowa Republican strategist.





















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ENDtheFED2012
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:33pm2011 Southen Republican Leadership Conference straw poll results…..
Dr. Ron paul = 612 votes
Hustmann = 382 votes*
Bachmann = 191 votes
Cain = 104 votes
Romney = 74 votes
Gingrich = 69 votes
(*) Huntsmann had to pay to ‘bus’ voters in for the straw poll.
Report Post »Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:40pmGod help us all if this poll is anywhere near correct.
Report Post »STANDSTILL
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:57pmRON PAUL, RON PAUL, RON PAUL!! Don’t believe what the media is telling you about Ron Paul. Like how he is a loony or the crazy old uncle. This man has been in good politics before anyone has even heard of some of these other puppets. This man understands who and what America really is. WAKE UP PEOPLE AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:18pmWho cares!.
Report Post »He won’t win the primary.
But if he did win the primary, God help us, we would be stuck with Obama again.
I like alot of what Paul stands for, (but not all), but I don’t know why people get so fired up about him when anyone in their right mind knows he will lose.
smokie
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:19pmI agree with Standstill. Don’t pay any heed to the cartoon stereotype the media is giving you. Listen to his own words, and at least give time to some of his plans before you nix him out right. It’s only fair.
Report Post »Decide for yourself.
STANDSTILL
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:50pmIt’s sad but you are a Rational Man indeed. Continuously, the good guys who would make decent presidents are blotted out because of a lack of money. Corporations will give millions to any presidential candidate that will bring them in even more millions. They don’t want a real American as president, just some puppet they can control. YET, I will continue to stand for Ron Paul and maybe even his son Rand Paul. We must be rational yet we have to continue to live with hope for whatever we truly believe is good and whole for the situation at hand. RON PAUL 2012
Report Post »dave928
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:53pmI like Ron Paul but his Foreign Policy ideas (basically isolationism) simply cannot and will not work in this day and age. I think Mr Paul would be better suited to be Treasury Secretary in the next Administration.
Report Post »burned at edges
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:57pmRON PAUL would take a lot of liberal voters from BO because he is antiwar…Skip that…anti police action so he is VERY Electable. I don’t understand how any conservative or Tea Party member can be against that with this economy and the current U.S. debt. You know he would cut military spending, he would cut entitlement spending, and funds for abortion. He would cut I.R.S spending, he would cut CIA, FBI, TSA, NSA, ATF, EPA, DOE, and other acronym spending in the name of freedom. All this spending cutting would allow a reduction in business taxes to bring jobs to the U.S.A. and revive the economy. It’s time for the republican party to wake up and not give us another John McCain in Romney, Perry, Huntsman, or Pawlenty.
Ron Paul 2012
He has said if you are attacked THEN you go bomb the bat snot out of them…He is NOT weak on defense
RON PAUL 2012
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:13pmRon Paul 2012
The “Kids” are voting for a Constitutional candidate and you has Beene are complaining they aren’t voting Rino or Progressive.
Your saying “kids” voting Ron Paul will be bad yet it was the older vote the last 50 years that has the led to the country we have today.
So before blaming “kids” for voting for what they should, a Constitutional Candidate, look at what YOU have voted for that has led to today’s mess. You might just learn something fro. These kids who will have to live in and fix YOUR votings mess.
QUIT BEING SCARED OF FREEDOM!!! QUIT BEING AFRAID OF HAVIMG A GOVERNMENT AS INTENDED BY THE FOUNDERS!!!
Live free or die!!!!
Ron Paul 2012!
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:16pmRon Paul is such a true American with true American values, why wouldn’t you vote for him? Can someone tell me why you would not?
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:24pmRon Paul has stood on what he believes for many, many years now. If you have knowledge of this, or know how to do research, you know this already. He has been known for all sorts of leftist name tags that show he is a threat to them.
Report Post »So seeing how he is known, and cannot change his stripes, let us look at the last time an unknown came up and was elected. We now have someone who tries to change stripes as often as the wind changes on a blustery, gloomy fall day as the leaves are being scattered in all directions with no order to them at all.
Ron Paul has stood firm on what he believes and what people are calling isolationism is ignorance. Our troops are spread way too and are in great danger. This puts us in danger. To have our troops in areas that have sworn to annihilate the United States is destructive to these brave men and women who have sworn to protect us and the US Constitution is a suicide mission.
One needs to remove the speck out of their own eye before trying to remove the one in their brothers eye. For those that cannot understand this it means we have to secure our borders first before we try to secure others.We need to regroup and rebuild what this nation once was in the same Spirit the founders had.
May God bless America again.
Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:43pmWhy would I NOT vote for Ron Paul? Did ya watch the debate the other night? The man has some very good ideas, but he is a loon in so many ways. He is like a mini Ross Perot. His way would not work. I have researched and he will not get my vote unless he is the nominee. And I am in an early primary state so my vote counts….
Report Post »101
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:44pmRon Paul would put this Country back on the right track the way our Forefathers envisioned when they signed the Constitution…then if people disagree within the Constitution or States rights vs the Federal control, we have the next 100 years to let the liberal commie bankers f-k it up again. Let’s get the ship turned in the right direction then sweat the petty crap like “will you be submissive to your husband” mentality!
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 4:13pm@FlyOldGlory
Why would a Constitutional Republic not work? You do realize that is the Ron Paul way, a Constitutional Republic……..
What are you advocating for, war with Iran and policing the world? More fake money? More big government?
Can you please clearly articulate what you stand for?
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 4:23pm@Standstill…Wow! I just read Ron Paul’ s platform and I am really impressed. I like that he is anti-war but pro Israel,. Pull all troops and tax dollar financial aid from foreign countries. Remove Nafta Cafta, and WTO, Remove Federal Income Tax, Leave the UN, remove Bush Executive Orders Remove the Federal Reserve System and interest rate price fixing. This guy could be the ticket. Can we help someone become POUS without his being wealthy? Remember..he helped expose the Bilderbergs. I say Ron or Sarah and if Rand has the same ideology as his dad..I’d be all for him.
Report Post »http://www.city-data.com/forum/elections/483430-conservative-platform-2012-a.html
Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 4:39pm@ OKIE:
Report Post »#1, please don’t put words in my mouth. I am not advocating any of that. # 2 Clearly articulate? Probably not. I think RP has some good ideas. I think he has some horrible ideas. His back and forth with Santorum in the debate backs up my thoughts of RP for me. We need to move towards some of the ideas RP has but that takes time. He sounds to me like all troops come back to the US now. That wont work. Go ahead, jump me….
GIDEON612
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 4:57pm@Fly Old Glory
We do not have time, as you say, to get these things done. Look at the intentional damage that has been done in the last 2.5 years alone. This is despite the damage done to this country after prayer and the Bible were removed from schools. Not to mention the slow cutting away of our original founding by elitists and population reductionists.
No ten year plans are acceptable at all.
We need change NOW!
Report Post »And not the change that was promised that will leave us all with only change in our pockets.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:02pm@FlyOldGlory
I’m not gonna jump you? Why would you suggest that….
Ron Paul is not bringing every troop home one the first day he is elected. To suggest that is irrational. Will he bring the troops home, yes.
Again, instead of horrible and terrible bing the substance of your post, add what ideas are good and what you disagree with. Thats courage.
Are you advocating war with Iran? Straight up Yes or No please.
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:06pmOKIE
Whether we are present in these Muslim Countries or not, the Radical Islamist will continue to challenge our way of life.
Do you not think Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is one of these radicals?
From Wikipedia
He abides by Iran’s long-standing policy of refusing to recognize Israel as a legitimate state.
He was embroiled in controversy in regards to statements he made about the Holocaust and for commenting that “the occupying regime” would, according to various translations, be eliminated from or “vanish from the pages of time.”
Report Post »Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:11pm@ GIDEON: I have no problem with the post you directed at me. I agree with you on everything you said. My problem is, if we, the Tea Party or whatever it is we call ourselves attempt to force what we believe on others, all hell breaks loose. Look what happened with us on the right when BHO came into power. We can thank him for the Tea Party. We have a divided country and as right as RP may be on some things, implementation of this stuff NOW will cause a bigger divide. It will take time. Maybe I’m wrong, but I will not support RP unless he is the last man standing.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:24pm@Pa Patriot
Why and how did Mahmoud Ahmadinejad come to power?
Because we put in the Shaw. A revolt against American empowered Shaw brought us the loons today. That is honest truth.
To suggest continuing our presence would then suggest things will continue to get worse.
Israel has Nuclear weapons. Iran screws with them Israel has plenty to protect herself. She whooped how many Arab countries in Six Days.
If we are gonna wage war we need to make the territory we conquer our land, or we shouldn’t be there. If we are, the country there should pay us.
Are you for war with Iran?
Report Post »Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:24pm@ OKIE: As far as the jumping me thing goes. That is how ppl on the Blaze do it. Post a thought opposite of what they believe and you get jumped. Read the post from I support Gods Israel. Either you agree with him or you get slammed.
IRAN is a threat. He says they are not. I say they are.
Not sure about the horrible and terrible statement. I think he is a loon like Ross Perot was. I think RP has some good ideas but he is mentally unstable, and I’m sure that will set a few ppl off.
I apologize I am unable to articulate clearly why I am not a RP fan. He is on CAVUTO all the time who I like very much and Cavuto even questions some of his thinking.
I hate to think this, but I feel RP would be one that would not be able to defeat BHO. I can’s see him getting the independents. Can you?
again, will support him if he is the last man standing, but not until then….
Report Post »S_Malc13
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:28pmLet‘s forgo our RIGHT to vote because we KNOW Ron Paul CAN’T win. Crystal ballers on the Blaze have called it. They use the same conventional so-called wisdom that voted Bush into office. Let’s not learn from our mistakes. Since Neocons CANNOT compare Bush to Washington, and Socialists CANNOT compare 0bama to Jefferson, Neocons and Socialists forfeit their association with classic Constitutionalists. You do NOT believe in individual liberty, only your own. You could NOT distinguish a Ron Paul supporter in a crowd because they represent ALL walks of life, not the fringe minority.
Here’s a sample. Take a look at your precious Fox news online poll after the debate. You extreme right/left have no clue. If you win, it’ll be criminal, not on principle. Just take a look at the last 3 elections.
http://www.topix.com/issue/fox/gop-debate-aug11
Ron Paul won all 50 states. Now go run to Perry, your savior.
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:33pmOh That’s RIGHT, I completely forgot It is OUR fault again.
Report Post »30 years ago Shah of Iran was overrun by Kamahani and it is still our fault.
Are you going to say this same thing for the next 100 years, like I am still responsible for slavery?
Be serious. There is much more at stake than just having a presence in IRAN.
It would be irresponsible of us not to monitor what Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
PA PATRIOT
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:37pmOh Yeah, I forgot, It is always the fault of the US.
Report Post »We are the bad guys.
That’s why our relations with Vietnam are so bad today.
You have no podium to lecture from.
These people want to destroy our way of life.
That said, for Ron Paul to deny that is atrocious.
Black and White, NO GREY AREA
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:43pm@DlyOldGlory
Why is Iran a threat? Why does Iran hate us?
If you can’t articulate why you do not like Ron Paul then how do you know you do not like him.
Again what ideas are good and what are bad. Good and bad are adjectives of a point. In order to determine something good or bad you have to have the point or idea.
Yes he can beat Obama. As many said anti-War groups support him. TEA parties for less Government are for him. Establishment Repubs who want sound money are for him.
Ron Paul attracts all because freedom, ability to choose, attracts many.
Do you think a polarizing established candidate will beat Obama? I don’t.
Polls of Ron Paul VS Obama are 50/50 last I checked.
TEA
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:53pm@PaPatriot
You asked for honest truth and then are mad when you hear it. No grey area.
Is it our fault? Directly no we didn’t empower him. Indirectly Yes because the people backed the radicals due to us empowering the Shaw. Before that we had good relations. Since we have been terrorized. That is plain straight up truth.
Do they hate us in Iran, the leadership yes.
I‘m not blaming I’m living in Truth so we do not make the same mistakes.
Denying of Truth is equivalent to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad denying the Holocaust. You complain he denies this truth yet you deny another truth whether right or wrong.
Think man…..Stand in Truth regardless of whether you like it or not.
We don’t need our troops there to monitor them. If Iran screws with us nuke them or invade and make several new states of the United States. What we are doing now is not working clearly.
TEA
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:58pmGod help us all!
Report Post »Ron Paul said:
“Let Iran Have The Bomb”… do you REALLY want this man who would say this to be President?
PA PATRIOT
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 6:05pmOKIE man,
Nukes are not the answer. It is madness to think that they are. I have seen carnage unlike many and pray I never witness it again. Life becomes meaningless and vile. We are not living in the 14th Century and leading people to their deaths for Christianity. We are civilized. Nukes are a deterrent unlike your answer which is “just nuke em”. Do you think RP would have the internal fortitude to press the red button and change the face of the earth forever?
Report Post »darkknight91
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 6:11pmI agree with about half of what RP says, but the other half is just plain nuts. He definitely had a fan club at the debate receiving most of the applause. I‘m not buying that he’s that popular. He’s cookoo for cocoa puffs. No thanks.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 6:22pm@PAPatriot
Ron Paul is the one person I trust to make the choice to push the red button or not. He has good principles and makes good choices from them.
Ron Paul as president would lead to Iran socially changing in my opinion. The people would definitely not see us as invaders or conquers and will focus more attention on their Governments oppression and topple them.
Right now they are focused on us.
If Iran wanted to nuke opus why have they not bought one and ran it across the wide open border already? They have no capability to launch one. They can only attack us there.
Fear drives us to make irrational choices. If Nukes aren’t an answer, why do we have them? I‘m not advocating it but that would be my warning and I’d mind my business. I’d friend those who want it and leave the others alone until provoked then keep my word. If war, then it needs to be our land and we fight to win.
What is your answer for Iran, war?
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »DonaldH
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:32pmwhenever I see someone touting Ron Paul a Don Henley songs starts playing in my head and it’s the part “out on the road today I saw a deadhead sticker on a cadilac”— this aint the 60′s and this aint no time for an isolationist leader,,, and you all are as phony as the 60′s bunch who followed Jerry Garcia and now work on Wall-Street
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:48pmIs it time to continue Policing the world, and to continue financing the MIlitary Industrial Complex????
Report Post »Should we elect neo-cons forever?
STANDSTILL
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:55pmRon Paul is not an isolationist…That would mean he would be against all foreign trade which is ludicrous. He is against us going broke and robbing our children‘s future because of wars and military installments that most Americans don’t even know why we are involved in ( Why should they-it doesn’t concern them). Ron Paul is the only one different from all these other NeoCons running for president-Doesn’t that wake you up?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:19pmRon Paul is not an isolationist either.
His foreign policy isn’t to police the world and tell other countries what to do. That is a World Government.
We can have good relations with all countries without dictating what they do.
If you think we can tell other countries what to do, the other countries will soon be telling us what to do about our financial mess, our borders with Mexico, how to treat illegals, our wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, and Yemen.
Ron Paul 2012
Live free or die!!!
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:20pmIsolationist? You are off your rocker!!!! Ron Paul is no isolationist. All he wants to do is bring America back to its glory. If that means we don’t take crap from other countries, then that is what it means. If it means we don’t go global, then that is what it means. If it means we keep jobs here in America, then that is what it means. It sounds like you are a globalist yourself. Mr. Paul does not want to build a fence around the entire USA. He’d rather put security down on our border – LOTS OF EM, rather than cave in to special interest groups. It‘s funny how you can say one little word like ’isolationist’ and hope to scare people. RON PAUL IS NOT AN ISOLATIONIST. AND, you are uninformed, if you believe this. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, MAN.
Report Post »Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:59pmeveryone listen to I SUPPORT GODS ISREAL, cause he knows everything. His intelligence is so far above anyone else on this site. He has it figured out. He could outdebate anyone of you with both hands tied behind his back, blindfolded. He is the most interesting man in the world. Right, I support?
Report Post »NOTE: sarcasm….
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 4:30pm@FlyOldGlory
What does I Support God’s Israel have wrong? Nothing
Your post had zero use other then to distract. Who does that?
Quit being scared of Freedom.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 4:42pm@DonaldH Do you know that 3.5 billion of our tax dollars go to Pakistan each year? Does that make you feel all warm and fuzzy? Or how about sending 2o million to relocate hamaas affilitated Pakistanis over here? Or how about not standing with Israel? Isn’t is it great to be in 3 different wars helping the muslim brotherhood overcome the other muslims in their countries? All that money that comes from the US tax payer going to other countries. We all wanted to become a one world government, huh? Answering to the UN for everything we do and being scolded by them and Mexico for not being more hospitable to their interlopers. Yep…out of jobs, out of money, riots and kaos…really just more of what we need!
Report Post »Oh and you don’t need that big ole house all to yourself now do you? Don’t you think you could share with some of those not as privileged as you? How many bedrooms do you have?
Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 4:42pm@ OKIE: on another post, I SUPPORT jumped all over me, I returned the favor with sarcasm. I am not scared of freedom or whatever it is you are trying to get across. I think RP is a loon with a few good ideas as well. Quit trying to force RP down my throat. You have a good day….
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:06pm@FlyOldGlory
I’m not forcing any thing down your throat. I’m correcting you forcing incorrect information down others throat about Ron Paul. I’m standing in truth.
Report Post »Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:47pm@ OKIE: your’e correcting me? BWahahahahahahaha…I have stated my opinion. My opinion is not forcing incorrect information down others throats….. My opinion is RP is a loon. I have always thought RP was a loon. I do not listen to the MSM so I have come to this conclusion on my own. I stand on my opinion….but you continue to have a good day cause I am outta here….
Report Post »S_Malc13
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:52pmOld Glory, some of the rest of us have flown her too. Also served. It‘s not a competition of who’s right or wrong, it‘s about what’s right for everyone, under a Republic. Keyword: Republic. RINOs do NOT support a Republic and neither do Socialists of course. Your faith in your family, your community, your values, your creator…will sustain you and your children, not your faith in BIG government. We’ve been hijacked by terrorist…the corporatists….the monster media….RINOs…..progressives….socialists….who are vying for sole tyranny over we the people. We need to eradicate them like we did the British, and only a brotherhood under a Constitution can we do that.
Ron Paul supporters do not want your welfare support.
Ron Paul supporters do not want our guns taken from us.
Ron Paul supporters support life, from conception.
We want the least amount of regulation, period.
Report Post »libh8er
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:24pmMost of the people wearing Ron Paul t-shirts were kids. I have hope that the kids will eventually learn what they want to get us into.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:29pmAnd many who wear Code Pink tee shirts Love them some Ron Paul. These two fringe groups go hand in hand…
Report Post »Tear Em Up
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:36pmThose same kids helped elect President Obama….
http://traffic.libsyn.com/mikeleeandterrymartin/Number_76_August_13th_2011.mp3
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:03pmWhat are those kids getting us into? Freedom? liberty? States rights? Sound money? Oh, how horrible…..
Report Post »STANDSTILL
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:04pmKids are not tainted by years of propaganda. We are living in a world of crap that our elders created and we will not stand for it. RON PAUL, RON PAUL, RON PAUL!!!!
Report Post »BCBORNCRAZY
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:41pmshut up. Sheeple
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:24pmAnd, it sounds like you have no idea what Ron Paul believe in, as well. TRY DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH ON HIS POLICIES. And, not from mediamatters either. Find some credible sources and dig. STOP LISTENING TO SECOND HAND INFO AND THEN BELIEVING IT IS TRUE, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I ***USED*** TO DO MYSELF. Do NOT be another fool who believes everything they hear. DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK AND YOU’D BETTER HURRY – THE FIELD WILL NARROW SOON and Ron has a big following, because he IS a patriotic American who will not sell us down the river and make backroom deals for politicians. It just won’t happen if he is President. I SO ADMIRE THIS MAN AND YOU WOULD TOO IF YOU REALLY KNEW WHAT HE WAS ALL ABOUT. Better start researching.
Report Post »ENDtheFED2012
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:23pmActive Duty Military Personal donations to GOP Candidates in the 2012 election…..
Cain = $6,223
Romney = $5,000
Bachmann = $2,550
Gingrich = $1,025
Pawlenty = $250
Santorum = $250
Johnson = $0
Those GOP Candidates total = $15,398.00
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Dr. Ron Paul = $36,739.79 ……….. more then double all the other candidates.
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Obama = $28,833.99
Dr. Ron Paul is the only one that will beat Obama. Anyother GOP candidate will hand 4 more years to Obama.
Report Post »Support our Troops, VOTE Dr. Paul in 2012
endgamer
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:35pmI’m with ya! End the fed! I’m tired of the same old cookie cutter Republicans that spew the same crap over and over. Ron Paul started his 2012 campaign directly after the 2012 election by starting Campaign for Liberty http://www.campaignforliberty.com/ and IS the Grandfather of today’s Tea Party Movement. If you didn’t know why he is so popular you should do some reading. It doesn’t matter how he delivers the message, just that it is delivered and people get it.. We get it Ron! Just Win baby!
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:42pmcorrection: Ron Paul started his 2012 campaign directly after the 2008 election
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:26pmI have given $10,000 to Ron Paul and I am thinking about more, as I believe he is our best hope for returning America to its glory, ending the Fed, and not supporting the UN, and securing our borders.
None of the other poiliticians will be firm on any one of these. They say things, but you walk away wondering. Ron Paul comes out and tells you, point blank what he will do and doesn’t blindside you.
RON PAUL 2012
Report Post »S_Malc13
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 6:20pmPA Patriot, we have a Super Congress that will make future decisions on our debt, including what happens to defense spending. They are a combination of 0bama zealots AND Republicans who we thought after the Nov elections, would represent us. They have FAILED. A sound economy will pay for our defense and our intelligence so we CAN adequately pay for everything.The military TRUSTS Ron Paul, and he will respect and honor them, the way they should be. I live in Dover, DE, and viewed the flag-draped coffins coming off of the planes and marched to the mortuary. The thought of an honorless president, recently 0bama, overseeing the procession sickened me. It’s nothing but a political spectacle. Dead, injured, homeless, unemployed vets are EVERYWHERE. We are told we are supporting the Constitution….are we?
Report Post »FreeIndeed
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 6:26pmthank you for posting this. people need to wake up and get their heads out of their neocon butts. Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »Hybaj
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:18pmOnly a loser nation would not chose mr. Paul. Only a loser would think that IRAN has nuclear capability or nearing it. Only a loser would think that IRAN has ballistics missile technology capable of carrying nuclear warheads. Just do the freaking research. Also research what on youtube what has Ron Paul said in advance of every US foreign intervention. If you after that don’t get it that Ron Paul is the reincarnation of the founders than you are out of your mind and a puppet that only deserves a government that will make him its own slave. Hello USA the country of slaves and welcome China the country of the new masters :(
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:27pmTo all you IRAN nay sayers,
What will you say when one, ONE dirty bomb gets through and blows up NYC?
Who the hell do you think is supporting the countries that hate the US.
I am no genius, but, it doesn’t take one to see the true colors of the Iranians.
Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:43pm@Hybaj: ppl with your thinking scare me. Seriously, you scare me….
STANDSTILL
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:02pmWe can’t live in fear forever and spew billions out just out of some conceived fear. We’ve been enemies with countries containing thousands of nuclear arms, but we talked about it. We can’t destroy a country and sanction them forever! These NeoCons have you guys fooled my brother. We can’t afford our fears. RON PAUL 2012!
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:10pmPA PATRIOT: Maybe if our Armies weren‘t in their lands they wouldn’t be so many Nations that hate us so much? Did that every cross your mind? And let me save you the effort of stating that we weren’t their at 9-11. Yes we certainly were. You can‘t put your Army in someone else’s back yard and arm their enemy and then expect them to like us can you? Maybe the more simple thing to do is to remove our Armies and stop choosing sides in the ME? Would be a lot cheaper for a broke Nation woudln’t you think? lol
Ok go ahead and tell me how we must waste our treasure and spill American blood for Isreal because they are the only Dem in the Midle East.. yada yada yada BS! Let Israel fight its own Wars. We have absolutely no business in the ME.
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:30pmFLY OLD GLORY 24/7 365:
Report Post »The only reason you are scared of Ron Paul is you probably don’t believe he means what he says. What is wrong with all you people? RON PAUL IS THE GENUINE THING, but I guess you all are so used to partial lies, half-truths, and posturing that you couldn’t see a true American if it hit you in the face. You are all just accepting that every politician will have a bad side. I just haven’t seen it with Ron Paul yet and I am waiting. So, UNTIL YOU CAN BACK UP YOUR COMMENTS WITH FACTS – shut up.
Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:54pm@ I support: You shut up you low life dirtbag. Who are you to tell me or anyone else on this site to shut up? Seriously, who do you think you are? Where did I say I was scared of Ron Paul? I responded to original poster. I am not scared of RP, but I am scared of loons like you….
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 4:17pmHey Tech,
Do you honestly feel, (yes I said honestly) that removing US military personnel out of the Muslim countries would procure a safe environment in the US? A society that would be free from terrorist threats? I for one would love to see the threat board go from orange to green, but I do not see it happening. The Muslim Radicals in countries such as Iran have and will continue to take a suicide pledge to change our way of life. They want to convert the whole world to Islam and Shania Law.
Further, tell me you do not think that there is not the slightest possibility that a bomb could be set off in Times Square, uhhh May 1, 2010 Pakistani born terrorist were damn near successful. Oh, but this will all just dissipate when Ron Paul is elected. Granted, it would save the country billions of military dollars, but the fact remains that all the security issues in the US would be at risk is not worth the chance.
Report Post »I am not against RP, just this laissez-fairee train of thought. Protect yourself and this country
Respectfully
Tea Party Terrorist
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 4:51pm@PA Patriot
“Do you honestly feel, (yes I said honestly) that removing US military personnel out of the Muslim countries would procure a safe environment in the US? ”
Yes. Do you feel safe now with troops in Muslim countries? When did terrorists attacks begin in the USA? When the US Military put troops in their country. That is honest truth whether we like it or not.
“A society that would be free from terrorist threats? I for one would love to see the threat board go from orange to green, but I do not see it happening.”
That threat board is a tool to herd and move the masses. Please honestly realize that.
“The Muslim Radicals in countries such as Iran have and will continue to take a suicide pledge to change our way of life. They want to convert the whole world to Islam and Shania Law.”
Iran has never attacked inside the USA. They have attacked our troops in their neighboring Muslim countries. If Iran conquered Mexico would we covertly sends troops to attack them there? Yes
“Further, tell me you do not think that there is not the slightest possibility that a bomb could be set off in Times Square, uhhh May 1, 2010 Pakistani born terrorist were damn near successful. Oh, but this will all just dissipate when Ron Paul is elected.”
Are you suggesting our troops in Muslim countries will prevent these attacks? 2010 is 9 years of having troops in Muslim countries.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 4:55pm“Granted, it would save the country billions of military dollars, but the fact remains that all the security issues in the US would be at risk is not worth the chance.”
It would save American troops lives. It would secure our Nation. It would secure us Financially. Glenn tells us constantly to listen to threat of their own words. Listen to why they are going to attack us, it’s for being in their country.
TEA
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:10pmOKIE
IS NOT Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a radical islamist?
From WIKIPEDIA
He abides by Iran’s long-standing policy of refusing to recognize Israel as a legitimate state.[156]
He was embroiled in controversy in regards to statements he made about the Holocaust and for commenting that “the occupying regime” would, according to various translations, be eliminated from or “vanish from the pages of time.
Does this sound like a leader grounded in reality?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:31pm@PA Patriot
Yes he is. Is Obama a radical? Does that mean someone should tell us what to do?
How did he come to power?
Yes he’s an idiot for denying the Holocaust. Do we not have Rep or Senators who said something about Guam flipping over? Have you not ever heard of Barney Frank? Or Nancy Pelosi? Do these people not lie straight to our face or deny truths openly?
No difference.
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:43pmOKIE,
Report Post »You are not even close to compare Barney, nutty Nancy and others to Ahmadinejad.
These Congress men and women do not want to wipe out, kill, murder, bring genocide to a country and all its inhabitants. If you believe they do, I was wasting my time on answering your posts.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 6:04pm@PaPartriot
Can you not see they are the same?
Nancy Pelosi is trying to make you a slave to the state, progressive. Progressive also love eugenics, remember? Where did Germany learn it from. You are denying Progressive want to bring about a socialist state and socialist states have never killed their own? WOW
The only difference is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad openly says who he hates. Nancy Pelosi just lies straight to ours while doing the opposite to enslave you and empower those who want to control you.
And yes lying about truth is the same as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad lying about the Holocaust. What is the difference?
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 11:14pmOKIE
Report Post »Your view is morally deficient of fact.
The energy and time I extolled on this issue is much more valuable than your myopic view.
Open YOUR eyes.
In other terms, Wake The **** UP.
NUKES ARE FOREVER.
Go Smoke another bong
YepImaConservative
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:18pmListen closely PaulBots,
You don’t matter. You are a useless, irrelevant fringe group that preaches to the converts and persuades nobody else.
Paulbots rip off their tinfoil hats in anger and start sending misspelled hate mail to anybody daring to criticize their king of the land of Quirkistan.
Rather than listen to the rabble, it is important to explain to them why they don’t matter. Then they will have the choice of taking steps to become a real force or remaining a curiosity.
Despite Ron Paul not winning a single primary in 2008, his supporters were loud and obnoxious. If votes were determined by disruptions at events, they would be in charge.
Since actual votes are the determinant, Ron Paul has won nothing outside of his own congressional district. This makes him as representative of America as the Pelosi.
The Paulbots brag about how they have “taken back” the Republican Party. They said the same thing in 2008.
Think of Ron Paul as alternative music. Alternative musicians often turn their noses up at popular music The Paulbots can yell and scream as loudly as the hard leftists, but at least the hard left (unfortunately) represents the mainstream of the Democratic Party. Unlike the Democrats, the GOP so far has successfully kept their fringe groups on the margins where they belong.
So Paul and the Paulbots can win straw polls and yell at cars in the parking lot, but that will not make them mainstream. Winning an election will.
Report Post »tmbell87
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:49pmI find it amusing that you want to refer to libertarians as PaulBots yet you snub the name *********, beck bot, etc. You are entitled to your opinion by all means but don’t resort to mud-slinging and name calling. Leave that kind of crap to the left. Furthermore, if you honestly think that socialism and libertarianism go hand in hand , then I highly suggest you actually do some research. Is it because libertarians agree with you on fiscal conservatism yet defy you on moral issues that you hate them so much? Don‘t you think it’s a little hypocritical that you are so adamant about the government not reaching into your wallet yet you fight tooth and nail to ensure that the government dictates what goes on in your bedroom? Hmm, nice logic there.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:59pmDuring the past election I supported Huckabee and shunned Paul because I didn’t think he was a strong enough pro life advocate. This election is different. While I don‘t agree with Paul on everything it’s absolutely clear that he is head and shoulders above the rest of the pack especially on foreign policy.
Isn’t it almost inconceivable that we wasted over a trillion dollars in the invasion of a free and sovereign Iraq, American blood was shed and wasted, 10s of thousands of innocent Iraqi women, children, and pets slaughtered because we thought their Leader had WMD; yet, Dr. Ron Paul was one of the few that opposed this most asinine Occupation from the beginning and the only one currently in the GOP field that will even acknowledge what a colossal waste of blood and treasure it has been.
We should all stop and salute this most courageous and astute American Patriot for exercising such keen foresight and prudence while warning the Neo-Con GWB administration every step of the way.. While most concede that the Occupation has been a colossal failure and readily admit that as soon as American troops pull out, the Iraqi people will search out another strong man to lead their country; nevertheless, we find very few Neo-Cons with enough valor to acknowledge the damage done to our Nation as a result of their rush to pursue this War.
For goodness sake let’s honor the esteemed Dr. Paul for trying to warn us back then and heed his advice to not invade Iran today.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:10pmAnd by “Paulbots” you mean “constitutionalists”. Its cool. We’ll keep voting for liberty and smaller government and you can keep voting for big government neocons that will continue to spend us into oblivion.
Report Post »STANDSTILL
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:12pmBeautifully put techengineer11 ! I get a tingiling sensation in my bones when people realize how vital Ron Paul is to our future. What mainline Republicans hate to admit is that deep down, they admire Ron Paul. A man who has been defeated over and over again but continues to fight for America by one day becoming president. You can tell a real man when he is not easily defeated but yet he stands up for real values and not a
Report Post »NeoCon plan that will reap him big bucks. This is a real American….You would be a fool to be a Republican, Conservative, or Libertarian and not vote for him.
YepImaConservative
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:18pmAs you said…. “I am entitled to my opinion.” And here’s some more.
Ron Paul supporters are more than a cancer representing the wackiest fringe elements of the Republican Party. Loud and lunatic like during events like CPAC that they drown out any serious discussion about issues. The only serious 2012 debates would be the ones that exclude Ron Paul. But what the heck, I personally enjoy the “Tin Foil” factor that is Ron Paul and his Bots in the audience for a laugh or twenty.
I’ve done my research and have formulated my opinions. You think I’m mud slinging and name calling? Thin-skinned are we? I‘m pretty reserved compared to most of the arrogant PaulBots I’ve come in contact with in person or on the internet.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:36pmPeople who back Ron Paul, the Libertarian-turned-Republican-for-electability’s-sake have me rolling on the ground when you “reefer”, er, sorry, refer to him as “Dr Paul” lol. Maybe the Mad Doctor huh? Also, usually an automatic retort to someone who doesn‘t think Paul’s wire‘s are all connected is a let’s all say it now…. “NEOCON!” LMAO! Believers in Ron Paul (PaulBots) or “Ronulans”, as most prefer to be called , claim that the man with two first names is a prophet of radical political reforms whose tenets are not to be mocked in any fashion by “unbelievers, socialists, neocons, republicans and the subhumans who’ve never heard of Ayn Rand”. LOL.
Report Post »STANDSTILL
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:43pmHey brother, If PaulBots are what we are being called nowadays then watchout because unlike any other presidential supporters-we are down for Ron Paul 100%. There is a revolution happening in America and if Ron Paul doesn’t win-it’s because you have big corporations donating major bucks to these other fluzies. I could understand why they got a little loud at the CPAC. Who wants to hear more BS?
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:03pmA new term this election.. We were “paultards” in 2008 now We’re “paulbots”! what will they think of next.. Seems like some neo-cons are spewing the same rhetoric the left is.. First they “ridicule” ( paultard and paulbot etc etc), then they fight you, then you win.. Thank you for the quote Gandhi.
Report Post »Go Ron Paul!
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:33pm@Yepimnotaconservative
Your progressive = to McCain and = to Obama
Votes like yours have led us to the mess we have today. Being scared to wipe your own rear has led you to bringing us BIG government, policing the World, and close to collapse so that other countries as China will be telling us what to do soon.
Your the reason America has failed and is collapsing. You gave up on the idea of freedom, personal responsibility, and accountability.
Have courage and stand in what you believe. Don’t claim to be conservative and then scream for more government. Are you to ignorant to realize what your screaming for and what your proclaiming to be are in total contradiction? My goodness man think…..
You want to ruin the country, keep voting for the Rino and progressives that have led us to this point.. It wasn‘t just Rino’s nor just progressives, it was BOTH.
Ron Paul is the only Constitutionalists in the race.
Live free or DIE!!!!
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:30pmThe Internet Libertarian
Of all the organisms in the world one of the most baffling is the internet libertarian. It has unique behavior, habitat, nutritional requirements, and reproduction.
Habitat:
To put it simply, the internet libertarian is a wily creature. It can often be found lurking in forums and commenting on The Blaze. Depending on the political climate it may go into hibernation for years at a time. Some specimens have been observed deep in the blogosphere. It is believed these individuals are engaged in some sort of ritual worship that shall be discussed later. The internet libertarian is also known to be comfortable on various social networking sites where they can mingle with their own kind. Many specimens have also been seen in ECON 101 classes. Conspicuously, they seem to find higher level classes inhospitable.
Social Interaction/Worship:
Report Post »The internet libertarian has a distinctive call. If you briefly scan Digg comments you’ll see it: “Ron Paul ‘12!”. The internet libertarian is a simple creature and is unable to adapt to change very quickly. Despite Rep. Paul’s inability to win, many internet libertarians cannot cope. This leads me to the ritual worship I discussed earlier. It seems clear from careful observation that most internet libertarians have begun to consider Rep. Ron Paul their god. Many specimens seem to spend a great deal of time in the blogosphere praising their deity. (Con’t)
YepImaConservative
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:35pmSuggesting that the federal government has a limited role to play in offering social services and some benefits in the presence of the internet libertarian triggers a remarkable behavior. This is known as the “pseudo-patriotic rant”. The individual is likely to puff out the chest and proclaim themselves to be the only real patriots. This is followed by a series of poorly worded complaints about the size of the government. This usually end with the distinctive call, “Ron Paul ‘2012!”
Nutritional Requirements:
As a whole, the species relies on an all liquid diet consisting of the tears of uninsured children and minorities. Their opposition to government programs of any sort seems to be an attempt to secure a future supply of liquid nourishment.
Reproduction:
The internet libertarian is an opportunistic breeder. They appear to be able to produce offspring with **** sapiens as well as each other. Research indicates that the offspring from a human/internet libertarian union begin human but over time are molded into young internet libertarians. This process is not a certain success.
So in conclusion, the internet libertarian is truly a remarkable species. The reason for much of their behavior is still a mystery. Many naturalists feel that they are an evolutionary dead end (this author being no exception). Still others feel that they may, in fact, be a subspecies of **** sapiens. Most reputable researchers dismiss this suggestion out of hand.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 6:37pm@Endgamer:
I coined a term in 2008 among my friends: “Paultroon”.
That said, I’m a Paul supporter exclusively. Should Paul not be nominated, I will again withhold my vote in 2012 as in 2008, refusing to lend legitimacy to the farce that has become our electoral system, by extending my franchise to it.
Report Post »Nauss
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:18pmRon Paul is the only real constitutonalist conservative.
Iran has no history of invading other countries and it is fear mongering that they will attack us. And if they attacked ISrael, Israel has its own army and should defend themselves.
Report Post »tmbell87
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:52pmAgreed, Dr. Paul has also never said that we wouldn’t come to the aid of our allies. His simply stated that our interference and activity within the borders of sovereign nations is what is ultimately leading the hate and threat of force to our shores. Ron Paul is against the INITIATION of force, he is not against self-defense or defense of our allies.
Report Post »TheBMT
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 5:24pmwell technically they haven’t invaded anybody since they got their named changed from Persia. But that was hundreds of years ago with the Persian Empire.
Report Post »ENDtheFED2012
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:14pmIowa GOP Debate on FOX News (8/11/11) Fox On-Line polling results….
Report Post »Dr. Paul=21,290 votes
Gingrich=5,770 votes
Cain=3,112 votes
Bachmann=2,323 votes
Romney=2,316 votes
Santorum=1,008 votes
Huntsman=401 votes
Pawlenty=324 votes
escape_from_socialism
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:17pmlink to the site:
Report Post »http://www.topix.com/issue/gop-debate-aug11
DEConservative
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:21pmWhat a joke that poll is…you people are sick in the head.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:13pmHere is your answer FOX held this poll after the debate announced it on the air and never mentioned it again. They were even attempting to block Ron Paul votes. You could tell because took a dozen attempts to get a vote that would register. The reason the country is all GREEN is because of RON PAUL Support! No one else came close Oh yea.. Ron Paul beat all the competitors COMBINED by a margin of nearly 2-1!!! Here’s the link: http://www.topix.com/issue/gop-debate-aug11/
Report Post »tmbell87
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:53pmIsn’t it great?! I don’t know about you but I posted for him.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:57pmOf course I did.
Report Post »Carpe Diem
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:06pmHe doesn’t stand a chance. Doesn’t he always win straw polls? Nationwide he’ll get what, 3%? Besides, he’s a loon.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:11pmyou are going to get the same govt you have now and
one you really deserve.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zw8ha3pJQM&feature=related
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:19pmI had great respect for Ron Paul until the debate
Report Post »Loon is not descriptive enough, perhaps LOONEY TUNE., WHACK JOB or FATALIST would be more appropriate.
His ideas on the middle east are incomptable with the US Gubberment.
STANDSTILL
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:16pmIs he looney or has 10years of war made us looney? Hmmm
Report Post »Forced_Union_Worker
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:41pmI agree with Dr Paul on a great many things, but 10% of what he say’s just drives me nuts. He lost me completely with his comments on Iran.
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 4:47pmFor those of you that call yourselves conservative and still wish to call a Ron Paul a loon just shows that you have been swayed by not only popular opinion but by popular poll-tested phrases as well. (The rest have their fate sealed.)
Report Post »What Ron Paul has to say is what we once stood for before the indoctrination of this land through public schooling, the liberal media and those in office that have very perverted views and a microphone.
What is treated as and called news is only what a small percentage of the population wants you to think. Those that hold such strong opposition to the Republic of the United States have bought the big lie, this is sad.
ashestoashes
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 6:23pmGideon612…You nailed it. here I hadbeen espousing athat we had been taken over from withn , via our educational systems and our government..I forgot what a huge impact our liberal media has had. Guess I forgot because I quit watching it in 2008. Thank you for the reminder.
Report Post »Forced_Union_Worker
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:05pm* President – Mitt Romney
* Presidential Chief of Staff – Newt Gingrich
* Secretary of Energy – Sarah Palin
* Secretary of Defense – Rick Santorum
* Secretary of Treasury – Herman Cain
* Secretary of HSS – Michele Bachmann
Rick Perry gets to stay in Texas
Report Post »Mizurax
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:45pmSorry boss, there‘s no way I’ll vote for Romney. If my choice is between Obama and Romney, there isn’t really a choice at all. One is no different than the other. Well, maybe there’s a slight difference: Obama will want to raise taxes, Romney likely will not. That’s the only difference. Spending, the issue that truly matters, will not change. I won’t vote for either.
It’s the same thing as last time. McCain, Obama. What’s the difference. One just brings us to oblivion faster than the other. Didn’t vote for either of those two morons either.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:04pmMizurax: I ‘ll second that. I would stay home. Romney is just not acceptable.
Report Post »STANDSTILL
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:26pmI am beginning to see them all like they are all twins. The stigma that Bush created is the new face of most of these guys. Ron Paul is like a breath of fresh air…
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:30pmAll of your picks are Neo-Cons. Puppets for the Military Industrial Complex. It is Just more of the same.
Report Post »STANDSTILL
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:59pmT know its hard but have some hope man. Ron Paul is about as far away a NeoCon or supporter of the M.Complex as could be.
Report Post »STANDSTILL
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:06pmI know its hard, but you got to have some faith my brother. What values do you stand up for? If you believe we are doing a good thing being involved in 6 wars than pick any candidate. If you believe we are going broke because of war then vote for Ron Paul. If you are a Christian than you should know that God is not behind this type of war so you would immediately choose the candidate who’s core message is to bring back the troops now.
Report Post »Forced_Union_Worker
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:25pmI understand your feelings about Romney. He’s not my first pick either (or second pick) Chris Christy is my first pick, but he’s not running, and I want to win. Of the people actually running it’s either going to be Romney or Perry. Perry is this year’s Fred Thompson, now that he’s announced his popularity will drop some. Romney has the most money, and the best orginization. He’s also been down this road before, so he will handle the campaigning better. As for the Electorial map, the only thing that really counts in an election, he adds nothing. Who ever our candidate ends up being will end up taking all of the red states. Romney has a chance of winning Michigan, Mass. and NH. He also polls better out west. Set home if you want to, but if we really want to defeat Obama we have to get behind who ever the candidate ends up being. ALL of our candidates are far better than Obama.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:04pmYes HE CAN!! Yes He WILL!!!
Report Post »Nauss
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:19pmvoting for Ron Paul is like voting for Thomas Jefferson.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:49pmHear, Hear!
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:15pmThe current republican party ( or the tea party, for that matter ) would NOT vote for Thomas Jefferson. He was too much of a radical. They would call him a “loon” or “crazy”
Report Post »BadgerBenson
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:01pmWhy is this really a story or a surprise if he does win? The Paul people are dedicated and always do well with these sort of things, and online polls, etc. About all they can win though. Look, I’m not trying to be a downer on you Paul supporters. I really like the guy. But some of you have made him into a god. Maybe he’d be great for this country. But look what a cult following got us at the moment in the Oval Office. Putting so much stock and faith into ONE man is dangerous, even if he’s on the side of liberty. I think the way Gandhi liked Christ but never liked Christians is how I view Paul and his supporters. Just dial the zeal back a few notches please.
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:13pm“Putting so much stock and faith into ONE man is dangerous, even if he’s on the side of liberty.”
Report Post »You’re right. Absolutely, universally correct.
sambachico
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:36pmMost of us don’t make him into a God, but he’s one of the few people who has a voting record I can trust. I voted Romney in 2008. That was a complete waste of time as I was on the fence w/ Paul on foreign policy. After more research, I now agree with most of his foreign policy. It’s only sensible if we are to have a free society and not a police state. I’ll agree with you on the cult following Obama had. Paul‘s is much different as it’s more a culture of live and let live with each other, and not to tell each other what to do. The Paul camp believes in individual liberty, Paul represents the “leave me alone” party, where Bachmann and the other Republicans are still intent they know better than us and will violate the Constitution from time to time for the “Common Good”, like with the Patriot act. Most Ron Paul supporters i’ve met are devoted Christians and are pro-life.
Report Post »mydogtippy
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:58pmRon Paul loss me when they ask about Iran and the bomb, somethings I liked what he, said he is right about gettting out of all these wars and stop supporting all the other countrys and letting the states take care of there own fiscal crisis. And smaller goverment.But it is to early to make my mind up for now he could get better,who knows
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:57pmAnybody could win …MY choice of the declared runners is BACHMANN.
Of the ones not in yet…PALIN…BARRACUDA 2012
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:55pmYeah the kids want drugs to be legalized..What a Joke!!
Report Post »headbtweenlegs
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:52pmStraw polls don’t mean a thing..GOP fundraiser that all
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:47pmRon Paul was my favorite candidate, until he admitted during the Thursday night debate that he thought it was okay for Iran to have nukes. Ahmadinejad has repeatedly stated he wants to kill us … what is RP thinking?
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:52pmIran is in no way a threat to the US. They don’t even have a missle that could accurately target Iraq. Let’s not be silly.
The issue is that one day they plan to challenge Israel‘s hegemony in the region so AIPAC is out in full force opposing Iran’s eventual rise. They will stop at nothing until Iran is leveled to the ground just as their arch enemy Iraq was destroyed.. One by one they will have America pick off their enemies.
Ron Paul is right. Bring all the troops home and secure the border. We are broke. No more money to waste on these asinine worthless Wars for Israel.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:58pmSo what? I will like to see our military instead of policing the world (stationing in over 100 countries), to be smaller but always ready to strike. Let see first what Iran can show. They should know, if they attack any of our allies, the will evaporate.
Report Post »Mizurax
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:00pmIf Iran wants a nuke, they will eventually get a nuke. Are you so ignorant that this doesn’t register with you?
Report Post »taxidriver76
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:00pmI believe he is thinking that we should not tell a sovereign nation what they can and cannot do. We need to stop meddling in the business of other nations. Iran is not a real threat to us, just like Iraq was never a threat to us. There is a reason that Ron Paul receives more money from active military than all of the other candidates. He is not willing to send our troops into a war of aggression, but believes our military should only be used for defense.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:02pmWhenever you see the word “hegemony” you know you’re reading Lefty Claptrap and you can stop reading right there.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:05pmIf he(Iran) wants to kill us, let them pull his head out of the cave and then cut it off, So far is all barking on the wind. Can’t you see US is spreading its force around the world. Do you want to end up like Rome? Bring troops home, and in case of attack retaliate. Let know the world we don’t have to have base in every country anymore, but we will strike if we want.
Report Post »STANDSTILL
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:35pmWhy are we scared of Iran? They can barely produce enough airline gas to make it across the ocean. I refuse to have our country live in fear because of a spec on the map called Iran. Can’t you see the bigger plan? Just like the Nazi regime-we are stirring up fear to justify our military complex controlled by the big banks. Just like the Nazi regime-we are spreading our forces everywhere. Let‘s remember how the awful Nazi’s failed; They didn’t have enough troops to protect home because they where all over the map! ( Thank God). America is not a Nazi nation, but we are making military mistakes just as Rome and Russia did. Russia failed to defeat Iran as they fought for years and eventually went broke until we bailed them out. Well the only country that can bail us out is China and who wants that?
Report Post »Edward
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:36pmIran will nuke Israel when/if they get the bomb. Ron Paul showed, in his own words, what a loon he is when it comes to foreign policy. You can not sit on your ass and do nothing and let Iran and regimes like that get nukes. You think its bad now, God forbid Israel takes a nuke, this country will suffer economically unlike anything it has endured before.
Report Post »STANDSTILL
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 3:14pm@dave928: Ron Paul would do great in the Treasury, true. But, I think if you do a little more research you would find he’s not a total isolationist-He is only when it comes to issues such as invading countries for no reason, or keeping troops in countries that serves no purpose, and meddling around in countries that contain natural resources.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:47pmPaul WILL win this straw poll. He doesn’t have “Supporters”, he has Disciples. Just like Glenn Beck.
Report Post »lonewolf57
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:15pmHe’d make a terrific V.P. or high ranking Cabinet member.He’ll never be Prez though.
Report Post »Just the thought of a smaller(physically) Ron Paul going up against a taller and non-arguably a better speaker(and con man) like Obama in a debate is very disheartening.
dissentnow
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:46pmLiberty rising. Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »maryjanesuncle
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:45pmGo Ron..Go Cain.. Obama just leave
Report Post »freedomofspeech
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:45pmthird time is a charm
Report Post »nysparkie
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:45pmOnly if his supports cheat somehow. Don’t think the level headed Iowans would want his brand of Libertarian Conservatism. Legal Drugs…..Please Sir.
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:52pmI heard on FoxNews last night that straw polls are determined by the number of people who are bused in for the event and are willing to pay $30 to vote. It’s not a very accurate method of determining what the country or even Iowans really thinks.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:57pmNo we’d rather throw away 100s of billions of fighting a War on drugs all the while losing pitifully?
Look I don‘t do drugs I don’t like drugs nor do I advocate their use but let’s face it, the current approach is not working. Why shouldn’t the people of a state decide on what drugs they wanted to be legal? Or better question who should decide on what is legal and what is not? For an example should Niacin be legal? I bet the maker of Niaspan would argue that is shoud not.
So I assume you support the status quo?
Report Post »Mizurax
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:58pm“Legal drugs.” You mean like marijuana? Let me tell you something there genius. There are countless prescription drugs out there that one can legally obtain that have numerous horrific side effects, cause addiction, and change a person for the worse. These drugs mask symptoms. They don’t cure a thing. But you have no problem with them because they are legal? Weed on the other hand is not physically addictive, and is less dangerous in just about every way than those legal prescription drugs, but weed you have a problem with. Alright sir….
You think we should go back to prohibition as well? How is this any different?
Report Post »Constitutionalist Lineman
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:03pmI’m no fan of drugs but what is the fear in legalizing and taxing them. They are illegal now and they are everywhere anyway and the money is going to ruthless thugs. Legalizing them could at least get us out of the unwinnable war on drugs.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:16pmYes, legalize them all.
Report Post »Portugal have them legal, and I don’t hear about any drug problem in there.
Common sense people !!! I’m sure if we can stop this stupid war on drugs, we will save tons of money, stop the drug cartels, and generate revenue from taxing it.
Who whats to use drugs it will, no matter what law says.
nysparkie
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:50pmLook it, you are, apparently all, are for legalization. With that comes cleaning up the mess and education X 10 to attempt the stopping of youth starting drugs. So your monetary value you put on a human life doesn’t wash with me. I’ve seen too many addicts and how it tears them and their family apart. I guess having a bunch of 16 year Oxi addicts is OK in your book. Not mine. Marijane, legalize it?
Report Post »I‘m no Angle being High School in the 60’s but what they have now is not your 60′s age pot. This stuff is potent and I mean potent. There are all sorts of reports of psychosis being observed from over use of today’s pot. So lets legalize it just to turn around and spend tons of money of Psy care? Where is the good in that? Of course this my humble opinion. You want your family, kids, doing drugs when they are legal? Be my guest. Me I would take even a harder approach on the sale, manufacture and smuggling of drugs. I believe Switzerland legalized drugs in the 70′s. How did that work out for them. I know nothing of the Portugal thing. I don’t even know if it is totally true or not.
margaret1977
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:44pmHe is the only one who is REAL and Bachman! the rest of them i do not know! NEWT is very smart man with experience !
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:41pmSure he could…but he is unelectable…too bad.He has a lot of good ideas…
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:02pmHe probably is unelectable; however, his son Rand supports almost every idea which Ron advocates and he passes the eye test.. lol Let’s face it about 75% of the elections are based on how one looks and how they speak; not the actual ideas. GW and TJ would probably not have a chance of being elected President today just on their mere appearances.. Actually they’d probably be imprisoned today for sedition. lol
Report Post »SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:03pm~~^^~~^^~~
I agree Dusty and have been saying it till my face is blue that one on one he can beat BHO. RP vs the BHO election machine he will lose. Between the fringe media, community organizers, special interest etc etc RP will lose! Its the uneducated zombie voters the left has this amazing ability to gather up, and trust me those uninformed zombies are still clueless they will listen and do whatever their handlers tell them. Even if BHOs policies havent made their life better the handlers will do and say whats needed to get the zombies to re-elect him!
He has a lot of good ideas but he isnt POTUS material and remember he is a libertarian NOT a conservative.
Oh and be careful what you say as the RPbots are no different than the obamabots when you talk negative about RP. They go on the attack many times in packs and are absolutely vicious to anyone who is not a RP supporter! Oh and anyone that isnt an RP supporter is “neocon”! Their rhetoric and tactics are identical to BHO drones. If he loses today they will come out and say the poll was rigged too! I wish they would stop it and realize what they are doing. http://SavingtheRepublic.com
PS: Mark Levin practically spent his whole show yesterday on RP its worth a listen.
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:04pmI agree DUSTY
Now ONLY if Florida will get RID of Debbie Wassermann Schultz
She called Tea Party “flakes”
SHE is a FLAKE
NO BO in 2012!!!!!!!
Report Post »Edward
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:39pmSince when did the Alex Jones nutjob, the neo cons are taking over the world tin foil wearers take over this site?
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