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Criticism Causes Reuters to Backtrack: ‘Soros Isn’t a Financial Backer’ of Occupy Wall Street

Reuters Backtracks on George Soros Potential Connect to Occupy Wall StreetSomething doesn‘t quite smell right about Reuters’ coverage of George Soros and his potential ties to Occupy Wall Street — at least that’s what some very frustrated media critics are saying.

Yesterday, the Blaze reported on a Reuters article that questioned whether Soros, a controversial billionaire, has been indirectly funding the anti-bank protest movement.

The report was by no means a “slam dunk” accusation that the leftist investor is involved. Still, frustrations in the media realm are rampant and Reuters seems to be responding quite oddly to the critiques.

The article, itself, simply provided some information on potential ties between an organization Soros has funded and at least one group behind the protests. Now, it seems the controversy has jumped from whether Soros has any involvement with Occupy Wall Street to the fact that Reuters published the story in the first place. The Atlantic’s Adam Clark Estes writes:

Because of a “technical glitch” and an editor’s mistake, Reuters published a story that alleged that George Soros was the secret backer of the Occupy Wall Street protests because he gave money to a group that gave money to a group that was an early publicizer of the protests. It was roundly mocked in media circles today, especially after the story went from carrying the headline “Who’s Behind the Wall Street Protests“ to ”Soros: Not a Funder of Wall Street Protests.”

According to The New York Observer, the following image captures the “before” version of the article (which the Blaze covered yesterday):

Reuters Backtracks on George Soros Potential Connect to Occupy Wall Street

Now, here’s the “after” version. Pay special attention to the headline change — and the lede:

Reuters Backtracks on George Soros Potential Connect to Occupy Wall Street

Rather than correcting or amending the story, Reuters changed it entirely. Based on the ledes, which can be seen in both pictures above, the entire premise of the follow-up story evolved, as it apparently seeks to debunk the notion that Soros is connected to Occupy Wall Street. Apparently, both articles were even posted simultaneously yesterday without explanation.

Even more bizarre, Reuters chose to lead with, “George Soros isn’t a financial backer of the Wall Street protests” in the secondary piece (which may have been crafted as a response to media critique). While it‘s certainly possible that Soros isn’t involved, why would Reuters suddenly take a stance that definitively claims that he is not backing the movement? Where are the media critics to rail against this biased assertion?

This morning, the version of the story that appears to be present on the Reuters web site is the one titled, “Soros: not a funder of Wall Street protests” (but the old one is still present as well). In another oddity, it seems the writers have gone back to the original introduction, but have kept the secondary header (is your head spinning yet)? Perhaps the editors realized that defending Soros wasn’t journalistically astute.

In an attempt to recap the rationale that propped up the original piece, the Observer’s Foster Kamer wrote the following list:

1. Soros’ Open Society gave money to The Tides Center.

2. The Tides Center, a San Francisco-based quasi-clearinghouse for other nonprofit donations, gave money to AdBusters Magazine.

3. AdBusters—an anti-corporate Canadian magazine teenagers read when they’re 16 and listening to lots of Rage Against the Machine and dreaming of protesting globalization before they spend four years at Colgate, afterwards, ending up with a job at Wieden+Kennedy or something—made a poster suggesting people Occupy Wall Street.

4. AdBusters becomes relevant for the first time in, like, seven years when people actually Occupied Wall Street.

5. Reuters quotes Soros regarding Occupy Wall Street, context aside, as saying “I can understand their sentiment.”

6. Conclusion: George Soros is behind Occupy Wall Street.

Again, Reuters didn’t unequivocally report that Soros is behind Occupy Wall Street, thus point six isn’t necessarily accurate. In Reuters’ defense, the initial piece was very careful to use the word “indirect.” Additionally, a focus was placed upon conservatives’ and their charges that Soros may have involvement.

Here is a portion of the copy from the original Reuters article (this text remains in the current version):

There has been much speculation over who is financing the disparate protest, which has spread to cities across America and lasted nearly four weeks. One name that keeps coming up is investor George Soros, who in September debuted in the top 10 list of wealthiest Americans. Conservative critics contend the movement is a Trojan horse for a secret Soros agenda…

…Reuters did find indirect financial links between Soros and Adbusters, an anti-capitalist group in Canada which started the protests with an inventive marketing campaign aimed at sparking an Arab Spring type uprising against Wall Street. Moreover, Soros and the protesters share some ideological ground.

In the end, it’s true: Soros and the protesters do share “ideological ground.” Furthermore, there are indirect financial links (I emphasize indirect here) between the billionaire financier and a group that marketed the protests.

According to the Reuters report, Soros’ Open Society Institute gave $3.5 million to the Tides Center. From 2001-2010, Tides gave Adbusters grants totaling $185,000. About $26,000 of this was given between between 2007 and 2009.

Also, the piece includes the following words: “Aides to Soros say any connection is tenuous and that Soros has never heard of Adbusters. Soros himself declined comment.” This, alone, showcases that the intend wasn’t necessarily to smear Soros, as some have contended.

Last week, the Blaze created and published a video that delves into the “Occupy Wall Street Journal,” a newspaper that has been distributed down at the protest site. In our video expose, Arun Gupta, a founding editor of the New York City-based outlet “The Indypendent,” explains his team’s involvement in the new protest publication.

In 2001, hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential Soros funds went to The Independent Media Center, which is affiliated with “The Indypendent” (Gupta also works for the IMC) Below, watch the video that highlights this connection:

In 2008, an article on the Open Society Institute’s web site praises IMC (though it does say that changing technology has posed problems for the group’s practicality). It reads:

Historically, the anti-globalization movement and its earlier national precursors have had a long and eventful engagement with media, old and new, always eager to embrace the latest gadgets and trends….As access to the Internet became more widespread, the anti-globalization activists from all over the world found themselves connected to its giant protest grid and it seemed logical to build a lean, fast, and cheap reporting network to take advantage of it.

The most impressive of such networks- the Independent Media Center (or Indymedia)– sprang up in the wake of the Seattle anti-WTO protests of 1999, acquiring a cult status in the anti-globalization community overnight. Since then, Indymedia has been busy supplying their contributors with reporting equipment, organizing media trainings, and helping their stringers get their stories out to the general public…

View more videos at: http://nbcnewyork.com.

So, while the connections are potentially weak or indirect, the outrage coming from reporters is somewhat surprising. Soros’ has a history of funding far-left movements. Why aren’t journalists delving in to see who, indeed, is providing the capital needed to fuel Occupy Wall Street and its associated movements?

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:00pm

    Had hopes that Reuters could withstand the pressure to lie, to cave, to drown.

    Another one bites the dust.

    I do hope GOD grants us at least a glimpse of georgesoros roasting forever in hell and being eaten as the pig (with apologies to the GOD-made four legged pigs) he is by his sick, twisted cohorts…

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:48pm

      Interesting.

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    • jzs
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:43pm

      “So, while the connections are potentially weak or indirect, the outrage coming from reporters is somewhat surprising. Soros’ has a history of funding far-left movements. Why aren’t journalists delving in to see who, indeed, is providing the capital needed to fuel Occupy Wall Street and its associated movements?”

      The “connections” are not “potentially” weak, they are absent. As said above, Soros gave to a group who gave to a group, maybe years ago. The conclusion: he’s the puppetmaster behind the whole thing. That passes for journalism at FOX. Why did Reuters pull the story? Because they actually understand their credibility is a stake, and they would like to have an audience besides just FOX viewers (people for whom “the truth” is irrelevant, they just want news that fits their biases).

      Why aren’t journalists looking into who is funding the Tea Party movement?

      jzs  
    • Clive
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:57pm

      so when you cut the crap, gave a group money, who gave another group money. And that soros money may amount to a “whopping” $26,000? $26,000 created the occupy protests? cmon. Its a huge stretch. like the tea party protests, these are groups of people that are angry with the direction of the country.

      All these Soros/Koch Brothers conspiracy theory’s make you look like stupid kooks. the truth is, soros is the same thing as the koch brothers. they both fund lobbyists, orgs, and pacs, to make our gov’t and society suit their wants and needs.

      And having a government that is routinely bought and sold by a handful of people (drug companies, unions, war contractors, etc), should not be tolerated by libs or repubs.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:09pm

      these people are completely misguided…
      they are attacking the wrong thing and going about it the wrong way.

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    • old white guy
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:21pm

      and black is white and up is down. what a bunch of idiots.

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    • michael48
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:24pm

      @jzs…why investigate a group that has no influence , whatsoever…???? according to your fello comrades??? unless your fello comrades are mis-leading the lemming crowd….

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    • Hobo Boondocks
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 3:04pm

      JZS
      Do you really think the democratic media hasn’t looked into who if any are funding the Tea Party movement? If they could make-up a negative but plausible story they would. The democratic media has been too busy asking POLITICIANS about the so called Wall Street movement. If you check out some of the other outlets that have actually asked questions of those sitting in, it runs from a clear agenda to overturn capitalism, to just get a job. The democratic media has no desire to make anyone connected to this story look bad. Why do you think no questions were put to the White House Press Secretary for months by the press corps on the Fast and Furious scandal? In Mexico primarily and the U. S. potentially hundreds have died and only a few democratic news media outlets have reported on the story and the Attorney General’s inconsistencies in his testimony about what he knew and when. Don‘t expect to hear much reliable information about who is behind and funding these so called ’Wall Street Protests’ from the democratic media. Why? It will expose the lie that they were spontaneous.

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    • HBTeaMember
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 3:09pm

      I agree. I thought that Reuters would say the truth. I do commend the Reuters, but when you have pressure from the left, everyone falls. Thank God, that the Blaze and GBTV have the guts to not give in to the far left. Reuters, you should be a shame of yourself. People NEED the truth, please DO what is right, TELL THE TRUTH, let people decide for themselves. We need you to be honest AND WITH integrity, don’t fall, remember good will prevail over evil. REUTERS, DO THE RIGHT THING, REPORT THE TRUTH. “THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.

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    • carnifex
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 5:38pm

      @ Kickagrandma

      Sorry hun, Reuters was turned decades ago, and hasn’t printed a real story in years.

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    • jzs
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 7:08pm

      HOBO, by “Democratic media” I assume you mean every large media except FOX. So you should say “non-FOX” media; that would be more descriptive.

      I agree that since non-profit organization such as Americans for Prosperity (started by the Koch brothers, and you gotta love the name) and Freedom Works, groups that organized, trained and busses Tea Party members, do not have to disclose their donors, it is kind of hard to follow the money.

      One thing the Tea Party had that this movement doesn’t is a full time, unpaid, network sponsor for their events. FOX ran commercials for them, sent their star TV personalities to attend, and otherwise gave their events positive coverage.

      Check this website out. Almost half the topics are on this movement, and all those, of course, or negative. Fair and balanced? Or somebody doing their utmost to demonize and ridicule a popular movement?

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    • historyguy48
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 8:02pm

      they don’t need spooky dudes money, the unions are supplying them with everything they need courtesy of their suckers, I mean their membership.
      Of course that doesn‘t mean he isn’t helping since one of the sponsers is the Center for American Progress.

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    • old white guy
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 7:57am

      yeh soros is nowhere near the occupy idiots. yeh and bears don’t sh-t in the woods.

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    • curtisgb
      Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:37am

      JZS
      You are hilarious. Compare network coverage of Tea Party rallys with coverage of occupy events. If you don’t see a hypocritical difference, then why pretend to be rational?

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:58am

    How many of the protesters are members or bloggers on Soros-funded websites? In a way, he DID fund the movement.

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    • crackerone
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:19pm

      I don’t know if this is an analogy, the lines are somewhat blurred lately, but it’s like a silent fart. No one wants to take credit for it when it first happens.

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:21pm

      I have been watching the live feed of occupy wallstreet for 2 weeks. They personally thanked George soros ans solyndra for their donations to “alliance for Global justice’, yes the same solyndra. The chief sponsor of the event is the alliance for global justice. I heard them thank soros with my own ears.It was a Hispanic girl with a blonde patch on her bangs.

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    • JRook
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:28pm

      Great example of something the collective here wants to believe. So much so the site takes the opportunity to project the association again by covering the retraction. When are we likely to see some articles about who and what the Koch Bros. or Dick Army’s group funds.

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    • mad_hatter
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:29pm

      Funny though, even Clinton is trying to figure out what the Occupiers are pushing. He had to think and make up reasons they were protesting. Here is the interview with David Letterman: http://www.americanparchment.com/video/2011/oct/clinton_for_something.html

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    • wesleyapril
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:30pm

      I really had no respect for Reuters – since they tell you what Soros tells them to us – but now it is even worse. He funded it – you just prostitutes like all the news networks :) Bought and paid for -

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:54pm

      Judge Napolitano “Letter to those on Occupy Wall Street” and the American People

      Warns the “occupy” people to not let their cause get hijacked, like the Tea Party was hijacked.
      He suggested common goals:

      End the Fed

      End the wars

      End the income tax

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF30eMuWFHI

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:07pm

      Funny thing about the Meals the dopes have been eating. I heard a rumor that urine, spit , feces and sterilizing agents have been included in the meal ingredients. Maybe that‘s why one of these cretins said he was eating better there than at mommy and daddy’s house. His mommy must be a terrible cook.

      Manga Dolts, Manga

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    • kellied
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:11pm

      As one of the richest men in the world…, He might just be the most EVIL man in America .. Why can’t he just buy sexy women, like most rich men! My advise to Soros would be to>> give me the money… I bet I could create jobs and it that wouldn’t cost the country freedom and dignity. (Soros– GET OUT OF AMERICA) we liked our country the way it was before you put your robot in office.

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:11pm

      VEL is just another useful idiot. He /She/It has no clue what the TEA Party stands for or even who makes up our cause. Hijacked?? NOT

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    • jedwards26
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:12pm

      JZS, if you are so against everything this website publishes and against everything the conservatives stand for then why in the world are you even on this site much less posting on it? Do not the left wing socialist have their own website you can post your views on?

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    • SovereignSoul
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:27pm

      @ jedwards26 Are you implyingThe Blaze is not for the free exchange of ideas?

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  • MominMD2003
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:58am

    Like hell he isn’t.

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    • SavingtheRepublic.com
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:18pm

      ~^~v~~^~~v~^~
      Ditto! Someone from Soros’ organization more than likely paid Reuters a visit and made them an offer they couldnt refuse. How can I suggest such a thing? Well he did it to Beck! Beck told a while abck how he had a meeting with ‘don’ Soros’ people where he was told to pretty much back off. They have no problem going after Beck you really think he wouldnt authorize action against Reuters!

      If anything this shows Reuters doesnt have a backbone. It shows Soros will do anything to keep things quiet, they want the impression this whole OWS is grassroots. TEA party is true grassroots, this thing is astroturf but I think calling that is too kind… its more like those hard grass looking mass produced doormats with a daisy in the corner! Whats in play is more sinister IMO Soros is behind this to fuel the fire. Remember he positions himself to benefit from a collapse. This thing will morph 20 different ways. TP people are getting drawn in not realizing they are in the ranks a of hardcore socialists, marxists, communists and anarchists.

      Stay on this folks just b/c Reuters gave in doesnt mean everyone else has to. Keep diggin for the smoking gun. Breitbart released emails today showing the bigger plan to destabilize government and take this protest violent. Stay with the truth and they will burn themselves! TAPGW http://SavingtheRepublic.com

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    • HKS
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:21pm

      A little pressure in the right place makes the news whatever you want it to be. It can even change it after the fact. Is this a great country or what.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:33pm

      @SavingtheRepublic.com

      For your information, the tea party is backed by the billionaire Koch brothers and was promoted by Fox News from day one. How is that a grass roots movement?

      Even if the OWS protests are supported by Georges Soros, which you have no evidence to support, it is no different from having the billionaire Koch brothers support the tea party.

      Besides that, everything else you claim are just pure assumptions. Beck claims someone from Soros threatened him, really? Where is his proof other than he told you. Beck is known to make things up so why wouldn’t this be any different. You won’t believe that tea partiers shouted epithets at John Lewis and Barney Frank until someone shows you conclusive video proof so the ball is in your court now, show conclusive video proof that Glenn was threatened by Soros. If you can’t, by your own logic, you are a liar.

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    • crackerone
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:04pm

      @ GOD father1

      Just because you and BO, have the same mental defects, doesn’t mean we all want America to fall off a cliff. When BO’s “first” told him, these will hurt at first, but then you’ll learn too love it, he gobbled it up. Not us! Now bugger off!!

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    • SavingtheRepublic.com
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:25pm

      Godfather1(GF1) I have heard repeated claims of the Koch Bros yet to this day nothing has been proven. Lets say they are financing conservative movement.. SO WHAT! 1 word for you..

      SOROS….

      SOROS, SOROS, SOROS, SOROS, SOROS, SOROS, SOROS, SOROS, SOROS, SOROS, SOROS, SOROS, SOROS, SOROS, SOROS!!!!

      He has his hands in hundreds of organizations working on destroying life as we know it in the US. Whats with you proggies and your double standards. Here ready for this.

      ATTN KOCH INDUSTRIES: you have my blessing to funnel money into the conservative movement to COUNTER Soros and the massive onslaught of the radical left.

      Oh and GF1 you forget about all the Hollywood dopes and their money more than likely coming into play too. Then there are all the DC proggies working behind the shadows. You are worried over 1 network and 1 company!! Hahahaha take a look folks they are scared! You proggies are not making the rules anymore and if anyone from the Koch Industries is reading this I HAVE ideas on how to stop this progressive nightmare just need the funding to make it happen!! Hows that GF1?!

      As for your claims on Fox about the TEA party (take note of proper spelling) well they are the only ones at the time who reported it b/c no one else under Emperor Obamas thumb WOULD! Again nice how you and your ilk play the double standard angle. Dont bother responding Im done here you have shown everyone who and what you are… like Soros and enemy of the state!!!

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    • Sy Kosys
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:26pm

      @gawdfather…

      You deny Soros’ monetary involvement in OWS despite the preponderance of evidence before your veiled eyes, yet in the same breath offer up the pearl of wisdom about the Koch bros….

      Hypocrite much?

      The brothers Koch contributed to SOME (ooooh that pesky qualifier) nat’l organizations that also endorse the TEA party (Americans For Prosperity, for instance). That is a far cry from the likes of Soros, and you bloody well KNOW IT!

      Koch‘s have been involved in all manner of org’s like AFP for a very long time, and last i checked the TEA party is not yet 3yrs old. So your conflating of the two is very disingenuous to say the least.

      You lib-tard nutbags are all about artsy-fartsy stuff yeah?
      “Philanthropy

      Since 2000, David H. Koch Charitable Foundation have pledged or contributed more than $750 million to further cancer research, enhance medical centers, support educational institutions, sustain arts and cultural institutions, and conduct public policy studies. Since 2006, the Chronicle of Philanthropy has listed Koch as one of the world’s top 50 philanthropists.”

      Courtesy of the left-leaning wiki
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_H._Koch

      Cant pick and choose your demons like that, please try again

      xox with love

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    • Sy Kosys
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:37pm

      Even more so, mister gawdfodder, the Koch’s are not in the business of destabilizing our currency…

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Asian_financial_crisis
      The foreign ministers of the 10 ASEAN countries believed that the well co-ordinated manipulation of their currencies was a deliberate attempt to destabilize the ASEAN economies. Former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad accused George Soros of ruining Malaysia’s economy with “massive currency speculation.”

      http://www.sans.edu/research/security-laboratory/article/currency-hackers
      One successful attempt at currency manipulation (or savvy investment, depending on your opinion on the matter) was Black Wednesday in 1992. George Soros bet 10 billion pounds against the Bank of England and broke the currency. In that case, England’s currency was already having problems and Soros was the “straw the broke the camel’s back”. At that time, he used an amount of money roughly equal to 1.5% of Britain’s GDP. With significant investment of resources, a currency “on the brink” can be successfully attacked.

      http://www.examiner.com/finance-examiner-in-national/george-soros-says-that-america-must-give-up-the-dollar-and-accept-world-currency
      Now George Soros is going for the jugular as he has come out against the world’s reserve currency and is advocating Americans stop their resistance to a world currency and singular global economy.

      Yeah….those EVIL Koch bros….Wake the F up, artard

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:00pm

      @Sy Kosys

      George Soros has also had a long history of philanthropy, but if your only source of information is Glenn Beck, you would never know that. Glenn tried to make it look like he collapsed a few countries’ economies when in reality he was helping to end communism in Eastern Europe.

      Also, I really don’t give a **** if Soros is funding the OWS protests, it is his money and he can spend it how he likes. My point is that there is very little, if any at all, evidence supporting the allegation that he is supporting the protests. However, there is hard evidence that the Koch brothers have supported the tea party, which is absolutely their right. However, tea partiers will not acknowledge this fact because you want to see it as a grassroots movement.

      @SavingtheRepublic.com

      Clearly you missed the point. I don’t care if Soros is funding the OWS protests. Rather, I was just pointing out that the tea party is not a grassroots movement like you seem to think.

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    • Sy Kosys
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:41pm

      gawdfodder

      I cant think like an artard, so please show me in my public comments, that part where i quote or reference Beck. I also noticed your absolute PASS on the Soros/Currency issue.

      Grassroots
      A grassroots movement is one driven by the politics of a community. The term implies that the creation of the movement and the group supporting it are natural and spontaneous, highlighting the differences between this and a movement that is orchestrated by traditional power structures. Grassroots movements are often at the local level, as many volunteers in the community give their time to support the local party, which can lead to helping the national party. For instance, a grassroots movement can lead to significant voter registration for a political party, which in turn helps the state and national parties.

      Astroturf(ing)
      Astroturfing is a form of advocacy in support of a political, organizational, or corporate agenda, designed to give the appearance of a “grassroots” movement….Astroturfing may be undertaken by an individual promoting a personal agenda, or highly organized professional groups with money from large corporations, unions, non-profits, or activist organizations. Very often, the efforts are conducted by political consultants who also specialize in opposition research. Beneficiaries are not “grass root” campaigners but distant organizations that orchestrate such campaigns.

      Damn that internet….and damn you wiki

      So i ask again, hypocrite much?

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    • Tronix
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:42pm

      @Godfather
      Tea Party isn’t a grassroots movement?…well, the difference is that you don‘t see them very often because they don’t have much time to spend in a park in weekdays. They are all working or at home doing what is needed for their families and the country. That’s the “small” difference; you’ll notice them in Nov. 2012.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 3:04pm

      @Sy Kosys

      The tea party falls directly within the definition of an astroturf movement. It is made to look like a grassroots, community based initiative when it is in fact funded and organized by large corporate interests and promoted by Fox News. I thought you might have recognized that when you included that definition in your post.

      You didn’t reference Glenn Beck but it is clear you are dumb enough that you would believe everything he says.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 3:17pm

      @Sy Kosys

      Nice selective editing from the Wikipedia entry. I see Glenn has taught you well. You failed to mention that for the AEAN occasion, the one who made the accusation also included anti-Semitic remarks and said that Soros was part of a Jewish conspiracy. Later, he retracted his allegations against Soros stating that Soros in fact was not the cause of the crash.

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    • Sy Kosys
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 4:15pm

      not selective editing at all, theres this wacky 1500 char limit, and frankly you chose your own ‘selective editing’ and chose one bit of the four links posted…apparently that excuse is valid for the other 99% of the point, but lets not get wrapped up in facts…

      Astroturfing for artards, or gawdfodders:

      Show me the “highly organized professional groups with money from large corporations, unions, non-profits, or activist organizations” that are the impetus behind the TEA party?

      I know…i know….it requires cognitive thought, but in the traditions of ‘no child left behind’ off with your dunce-cap and git yo learn on!

      Additionally, who is the leader (or leaders) of the TEA party? Go ahead, name him/her.

      “Astroturfing is a form of propaganda whose techniques usually consist of a few people attempting to give the impression that mass numbers of enthusiasts advocate some specific cause.”
      So this ASTROTURF movement known as OWS has been going on for how many weeks now? How many ‘spontaneous’ uprisings in other cities? How many people are there?

      Contrast to the TEA party rallies….THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE attended, and still do.

      BONUS QUESTION: List for us all here, all the TEA party-goers that have been arrested at their rallies….

      You know….if you get off your butt and stop this inane defense of hypocrisy, YOU TOO can earn a decent living by being PAID to protest at occupy wall street…
      http://www.breitbart.tv/dc-organizer-admits-to-paying

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    • Sy Kosys
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 4:19pm

      “You didn’t reference Glenn Beck but it is clear you are dumb enough that you would believe everything he says.”

      Well THATs one helluva way to go thru life. Does insurance cover your rectal/cranial inversion?

      “Well…you didnt actually SAY anything about Beck, but i just know its true anyways!!”

      You forgot to say “liar liar, pants on fire”…..

      LMAO at you, artard

      xox love n hugs :)

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 5:02pm

      @Sy Kosys

      I really don’t give a **** what George Soros has done in other countries. My point was that, like Glenn Beck, you are selectively editing facts to make it look like someone has done something they in fact have not. Case in point: you said Soros brought down ASEAN, but failed to note that the one making that accusation was an anti-Semite and later retracted that statement. I don’t know about you, but I think his retraction and stance against Jews was a pretty important part of the story.

      Yeah, I am making an assumption that you are a Beck fan based upon your hatred and phobia of Soros and the fact that you are on this website. Furthermore, you never refuted my assertion that you are a Beck fan.

      What’s really funny is that everything you are saying about OWS is also the same for the tea party. I bet all those rallies spontaneously popped up 750 cities, right? Here’s info on the corporate backing – http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=2, http://www.prwatch.org/node/9012.

      Now, can you name the OWS leader? Can you provide any real evidence on Soros’ involvement?

      Nice try with your distraction on the numbers of arrests but that has nothing to do with who is behind the rally.

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    • Sy Kosys
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 5:51pm

      LOL

      Dude, just stop

      hahahahahaha

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    • 1389AD
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 9:01pm

      I’m with a local Tea Party organization and nobody is funding us but ourselves.

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    • Tronix
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 1:23am

      @Godfather
      What I tried to say is this: Maybe I’m naive, but for me, the description is not important. The Tea Party that I know is full of people worried about their jobs, their liberties, and their country. They don’t even have time for meetings or rallies. They just work very hard to keep the country that they know. I mean the country where you work hard to achieve things in your life, not the communist country that your idol is trying to push in America. For me, and I’m probably wrong (I don’t care), the TP is neither 100% Astroturfing nor 100% Grassroots.

      But as Godfather, you made me an offer I can refuse: From now on, I’m stopping bath, soap, deodorant, working, etc…and I‘ll take my Che’s T-Shirt and I’ll have a picture of George in my wallet. Thank you very much, you changed my life.

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  • Tronix
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:57am

    If I have to choose my favorite person to go down, it would be Soros without any doubt. The second place would be for Barry Soetoro, and the third place would go for Pelosi. The selection is ordered by arrogance.

    But if I have to make the same selection ordered by stupidity and ignorance, obviously the first place is for Barry Soetoro and Pelosi, and without Soros because he is arrogant, despicable and evil, but not stupid.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:16pm

      If you have a problem with arrogant people, I don‘t know why you are a Beck fan considering he’s unbelievably arrogant. With just the slightest criticism, he starts crying like a baby and then starts making childish accusations without actually addressing the criticism. Oh yeah, he’s also incredibly stupid.

      Thus, if you have a problem with arrogant and stupid people, you should stop following Glenn Beck.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:41pm

      @godfather
      Can you cite some examples for us, please?

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    • HKS
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:16pm

      Look like godfather can’t handle the truth.

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    • Tronix
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:50pm

      @Godfather
      Please read carefully. I have problem with arrogant people, but also with stupidity. Obviously you have a problem with stupidity too, but the difference is you are the stupid. And I can say that because your comment reveals how big your stupidity is.

      Regarding Beck, you can disagree with him, but arrogant?…at least, among a lot of good things about him, he’s very honest and clear about his opinions and he always back his opinions with facts and evidences (Videos, books, audio tapes, pictures, newspapers, web sites, etc). On the other hand, as we can see, he does as he says, and he says as he does. Can you say the same about Georgy, Nancy and Barry?

      Finally, if you think that those three clowns aren’t arrogant, liars and two of them very stupid, well, be careful because it seems you can trust anybody and you will be very disappointed the rest of your life.

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    • Tronix
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:15pm

      Sorry, I forgot the main difference between Beck and the three clowns: Those three are taking away your money, your privacy and your liberties. And they are doing it one way or the other. Those three are putting in danger your country, your city, your neighborhood, your house, your family, your money, you and even your dog. They are doing it one way or the other.

      Beck doesn’t.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:45pm

      @Tronix

      Just because someone is clear and honest about their opinions does not mean he is not arrogant. Those attributes are not mutually exclusive. A sign of his arrogance is that he cannot stand it when someone disagrees with him or calls him out on his lies or incoherent logic. He merely resorts to name calling and insults.

      Has it ever occurred to you that he never talks to anyone with whom he disagrees? If he was so sure about his positions and theories, why not discuss them with someone who will challenge him? If he is so sure he is correct, why not defend those positions on a platform other than his radio show and one man internet show?

      You say he always has “evidences” (sic) to back up his claims, but the fact is he doesn’t. Anyone can twist words and take quotes out of context but that isn’t “evidences” (sic).

      If Beck is as charitable as he says, why did he charge $125 a ticket for his show in Wilmington OH? Why didn’t he do it for free? Also, he was lying when he said that town has not accepted any federal money, the town in fact had accepted quite a large sum.

      You may disagree with Pelosi and Obama but that does not make either of them stupid. However, because you are a Beck follower, you clearly are “the stupid.“ The Oxford English dictionary even defines a Glenn Beck fan as ”the stupid.” You don’t believe me, look it up.

      Before you say he’s never been wrong, prove that he didn’t rape and kill a girl back in 1992.

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    • Tronix
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 2:31am

      @Godfather
      I didn’t say Beck was never wrong. But if that’s all you have to say about a guy with a daily show of 2 hours and years saying serious words about very powerful, wealthy and evil people ….you are pathetic. You don’t have arguments. If Beck is wrong and a liar, just one show has the potential of many lawsuits against him….don’t you think?…don’t you think his enemies are trying to get him?…where is the pile of lawsuits?

      I remember Beck offering the show to Soros many times, and also to the WH, so they could express their own opinion and answer the questions (By the way, what a coincidence…George and WH). They never agreed to go..

      The rape? First of all, the person making the accusation must demonstrate and sustain the case. I didn’t know about that, but with the first page on Google I found that is BS.

      Who is the girl?…where is the DA?…where are the probes? He has so many powerful enemies that if that was true, he would be in jail. Make your case and if you’re so confident, why don’t you go and talk with the DA….I’ll stand with you if you are right.

      A rapist doesn’t stop his criminal behavior until he’s arrested. According to you, Becks has been raping around for almost 20 years and we don’t hear anything about that…..but if you say so….(Or maybe, you think he’s a very good at raping).

      Finally, the list of stupid acts from Barry Soetoro and Nancy is too long. Google it and you’ll find that information even in t

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  • futureatstake
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:57am

    Where George Soros has spend his money may be somewhat vague, but his own words speak perfectly clear. He is an enemy of the U.S., he is an enemy of the American way of life and he is an enemy of capitalism despite the hypocrisy of his actions. The big question to me is “What motivates him?”.

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    • Obama_Sham
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:22pm

      “The big question to me is “What motivates him?”.”

      Power…

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    • Shasta
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:16pm

      Power. He thinks he is a friggin god and he thinks he will live forever.

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    • True American66
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:38pm

      He is a true Meglomaniac…classic narcissist with dogmatic resolve. He will never quit, he will continue playing his game until the end…his or its.

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:21pm

      Soros is your scaapegoat. the people are rising up against you right wing ers who have gone too far right and who have had a control on the media. you don’t want to admit that there is something wrong with this if -you’re rich- you -must -be- good -calvinism and it’s attendant pull yourselves- up- by- your- own- bootstraps -if you have no job and are getting evicted from your home too bad-vicious mean spirited puritianism.The young people still have a few unnbrainwashed braincells going and they are rising up to promote the enlightened overthrow of greedy hypercapitalism .They want a just european style capitalist/socialist hybrid state . The future of advanced 21stc democracies. get with it you mean spirited luddites.Even your right wing media is getting scared as they go soft on these revolutionaries.

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    • Tronix
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:22pm

      Satan?

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    • 762x51
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 2:28pm

      The correct answer can be found in his history. Soros is an international criminal convicted in several countries of crimes that all involve currency manipulation. He made his billions by destroying the currencies, and by extention the lives of nations and people. His fortune is the direct result of manipulating the system in other countries so as to collapse their currency and therefore their economy. So ask yourself, why would a billionaire back a movement, and that is ALL that Tides Foundation, MoveOn.org, et al, does, which aims to collapse the United States economy and promote socialism? HHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. . .

      He will be safe, he thinks, on his island and can profit from the misery he is orchestrating against the American people. Soros and his puppet Criminal Obama are enemies of the United States – period.

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  • BobatTREB
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:56am

    George Soros; he reminds me of Ernst Blofeld.

    Nothing to see here, citizens. Move along. Move along.

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  • PApeacemaker
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:56am

    Watch this & you will know why all this is happening

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyW-3YC2IVQ

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  • COFemale
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:56am

    Whoever it is we can at least agree it is someone with money.

    Whether it is Soro’s or funding that comes from an organization that he contributed too in the past, I am sure his hands are in it somewhere; directly or indirectly.

    Of course, it could be Frances Fox Piven, does she have money?
    What about Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn?
    Code Pink?

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:42pm

      And don’t forget the Koch brothers and Fox News. Oh wait, my mistake, those were the ones that funded and promoted the tea party.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:48pm

      @godfather
      More baseless accusations, We have a couple of Tea Parties in our county and we have YET to see any money coming from Fox or the Kochs. You don’t know what the hell you are talking about. You are just rambling, trying to incite a reaction.
      Spend your soros-sponsored money wisely, you might need it soon.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:06pm

      @Anonymous T. Irrelevant

      Apparently you haven‘t followed Glenn’s orders to do your own homework. Otherwise, you would have discovered that the Koch brother have indeed funded the tea party.

      http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer
      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/13/tea-party-billionaire-koch-brothers

      Furthermore, by watching Fox News you would discover that they have promoted the tea party rallies since day one. If you didn’t pick that up you are either ignorant or blind.

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  • PApeacemaker
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:55am

    If you want to see why Soros acts this way & how he brain washes everyone just watch this. Its from Walt Disney from the 1930‘s or early 40’s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyW-3YC2IVQ

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  • Banter
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:55am

    The “technical glitch” was soros goons standing in front of the editor’s desk.

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  • RLTW
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:53am

    Soros is a propagandist pushing state-ism, Reuters scratched the scab that is the communist movement and one day later they cower in the closet.
    Moral clarity in media is dead.

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    • RichNGadsden
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:14pm

      You’ve certainly hit the nail on the head. Turn the tide and there would be no amount of complaining that would get Reuters to stop excoriating the Tea Party. They have certainly bowed to their lord and master.

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 2:19am

      Amen, Godfather is certainly getting on my nerves. He knows nothing about the Tea Party and spews progressive propaganda. I will not allow him to frustrate me further, he is not worth it and is planted here to push us into lowering ourselves to his level. We all know Sorus is behind this, along with they many organizations that are funded by him. He betrayed his own people and is a coward with money. Without it he would be NOTHING!

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  • TxMadMac
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:53am

    Has anyone seen a journalist lately ? I mean one that knows the truth and can tell it !

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    • dmforman
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 9:06am

      We won’t have any real journalists for a long time. Our country is in true trouble and most people have not a clue as to what is going on. We will be like Nazi Germany before long unless things change. There are too many similarities that people refuse to see.

      Soros is an evil man who is a Jewish communist. He hates everyone, but loves power. If people would do their own research on him, they would understand how evil he is. Van Jones is another evil man.

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  • Santa Cruz Kid
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:52am

    Soreass knows how to spend his money. He’s an evil SOB!

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  • Echelon
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:51am

    If you loook closely, these are all pathotic losers with no ambitions or aspirations. They have a strong sense of entitlement, they lack respect, integrity and most of all self-esteem. Would you hire someone who looks like they haven’t showered in a week, a beard that makes them look like Manson, or tats that cover the majority of their body? I for one will stand up and say no, in fact, don’t even waste your time applying. So we’re stuck with these freeks that offer no value to society and as a result, they have nothing else better to do than protest against something they don’t to be apart of anyway – society.

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  • ares338
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:48am

    If indeed he did back it and wanted to remain undercover you wouldn’t know it. Money talks bullcrap walks. What shows up about Soros is just want he wants to show up and that’s it unless by a mistake.

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  • American_Alliance_for_the_Support_of_Sarcasm
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:48am

    Pay no attention to the Spooky Dude behind the curtain!

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  • lukerw
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:48am

    WARNING to the Media: If you oppose the Socialist Agenda… you will be Harmed!

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  • knockered
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:47am

    I guess the word was sent and they didn’t want to be run off like he did to Glenn Beck.

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    • paulusmaximus
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 1:52pm

      Glenn Beck is still there and now he can say it the way it is much more interesting!:)

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  • KINGRUDDY
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:46am

    WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
    The useful idiots strike again…move along, no news here….no way this guy has ANYTHING to do with this anarchy. Anyone want to tell the truth? SOROS = EVIL

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  • NewLife56
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:45am

    Good Grief!!! Soris now controls the AP and Rueters too? Thank GOD for Glenn and FOX or we would never get any true reporting.

    Reuters? You have now sold out just like the rest of them, you gutless cowards, you gutless, Anti-American COWARDS

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    • dsm
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:50am

      Thank God for Glenn. Fox will fold to pressure.

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    • teebubba
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:20pm

      Evidently you have not been aware for decades that Reuters is in fact the whoosie French socialist version of the AP and UPI.

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  • Lloyd Drako
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:42am

    Soros gave money to someone who gave money to someone who came up with the idea of occupying Wall Street. That is a far cry from what we’re supposed to infer: that he is the “mastermind” behind the whole movement. He is probably as surprised as anyone at what’s happening–delighted but surprised.

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    • BobatTREB
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:47am

      Nothing to see here, citizens. Nothing to see. Move along, move along.

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:49am

      and if you believe that,i have a bridge to no where and run way to no where to sell you,he knows, he is getting his money worth,one commie penny at a time.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:00pm

      Yes, the brown shirts had nothing to do with Hitler… same with the Storm Troopers, they were just completely unrelated thugs in Germany. Freaking dopes, do you have to be in the gas chamber or on the way there before you “think” something is not right?

      My goodness, we all get spooked when our investments fail and we over react, but that is okay. We over react when a car pulls out in front of us, but that’s okay. We over react when our car insurance goes up $50 per year. However, it is completely obvious, BY DESIGN, your freedoms are being taken away and all you can say is “far stretch”? Really? Why? You prepare for the smallest things in life and that is “normal” yet are complacent when history shows where we are headed… that is NOT normal!

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:32pm

      The Brown Shirts WERE the Storm Troopers.

      Something is assuredly “not right” when millions of otherwise sensible people are deluded into thinking that sinister individual billionaires behind the scenes are deliberately maneuvering the American people into some sort of anarchy, or tyranny, or both. All this raving about Soros is simply a mirror image of the raving on the left about, say, the Koch brothers.

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  • CatB
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:42am

    Once again the TRUTH gets in the way with what the media WILL report … nothing to see here … move along.

    TEA!

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  • JLGunner
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:40am

    Way to fold like a lawn chair.

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  • Lloyd Drako
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:37am

    The one thing Occupy Wall Street seems to have little effect on is Wall Street. Anyone else been following this week’s market?

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    • sWampy
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:49am

      With the amount Americans automatically pump into the market through 401k and other retirement accounts, there is noway the market can ever stay down for long, it’s is rigged not to completely collapse.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 12:35pm

      Swampy, I wish I could agree, but I suspect that over the last few years people have pulled more out of 401(k)s than they have put in! I’m not sure why the market has had such violent up and down swings lately, except a herd mentality that acts on news flashes without giving it much thought.

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  • Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
    Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:35am

    “technical glitch” and “editor mistake” SHUT THE FRONT DOOR…..

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on October 14, 2011 at 11:57am

      the communist regime would like to inform you that they are not at all pleased with you reporting,we would like for you to change a few words if you seem to have a problem with this,please let one of our many ss officers at the door know, then we can all go to a secure location and have a talk,o yeah, just more thing,one of us is not coming back.
      thank you for your corporation
      the communist regime.

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