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D.C. Public Schools Cut Over 400 Employees

D.C. Public Schools Cut Over 400 Employees

Less than a year after reform-minded, and characterized by some to be “anti-union,” District of Columbia Schools Chancellor Michelle Rhee resigned following a controversial three-year tenure, her legacy lives on. Current officials announced Friday that 413 D.C. school employees have been fired for poor performance and failure to meet licensing requirements. Those terminated amount to 5 percent of all public school teachers in D.C. Fox News:

“The biggest chunk of workers let go- 288 of them- were rated subpar by the city school district’s evaluation system, called ‘IMPACT.’

The program is Michelle Rhee’s brainchild from her days as chancellor of the D.C. public school system, and it uses five 30-minute classroom visits to determine who the good teachers are, and who the bad teachers are. Educators are measured by how high their students score on assessment tests and how well lessons are laid out.”

D.C. Public Schools Cut Over 400 Employees

While the program is the product of past Chancellor Rhee, her successor stands firmly behind “IMPACT.” Current D.C. Schools Chancellor Kaya Henderson told Fox News:

“‘IMPACT’ is allowing us to do exactly what we set out to do, which is recognize and reward our highest performers, which is to support and develop our people who are struggling, and to move out our lowest performers”

“IMPACT” does not solely focus on weeding out underperforming teachers. The program also rewards the “highly effective,” identifying 663 top performers now eligible for $3,000 to $25,000 bonuses.  That said, the reward for high performers is not enough to satisfy the Washington Teachers’ Union. WTU President Nathan A. Saunders has called “IMPACT” a biased evaluation system because it is run by other human beings.

Harder sanctions on teachers failing to perform in an increasing number of evaluations is becoming not only the norm in D.C., but across the country. WSJ:

“More than a dozen states passed laws in the past two years that link teacher evaluations to student test scores and make it easier to fire ineffective educators. The movement was sparked, in part, by President Barack Obama’s Race to the Top $4.35 billion education initiative, which awarded grants to states that adopted education overhauls.”

While the overhaul in evaluations has lead to more firings, experts argue that good teachers have nothing to worry about. Washington Post:

D.C. Public Schools Cut Over 400 Employees “’The only people who typically lose their jobs in districts are people who are guilty of a crime,’ said Kate Walsh, president of the National Council on Teacher Quality, an organization that studies and promotes methods to improve instruction in schools. ‘It’s rare that there are any significant numbers of teachers who lose their jobs because they are not good at teaching their subjects.’”

Do you think your local school district could benefit from an increased number of teacher evaluations based on student performance assessment and lesson plan design?

Comments (147)

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  • ofallon
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:56pm

    Won’t these fired teachers simply go to rubber rooms collecting their salaries until the unions settle and re-instate them years later?

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    • johnlee
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 10:32pm

      Tis true, tis true, the rubber room will get you and they are Excited. With pay .

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    • beekeeper
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 10:35pm

      No, that‘s NYC school district that has the famous ’rubber rooms’, not D.C. – and the rubber rooms in NYC are for teachers in the process of being fired, these teachers were fired, as I read the article. getting rid of the bottom 5% of teachers in one of the worst-performing school districts should be easy, but then again Washington is awash in new federal department, so they shouldn’t have a problem finding work…

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    • SHOWMESTATEGUY
      Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:28am

      Well, the union has to keep the paychecks going to these people even if they don’t actually do anything. The union has to get its dues. You have to have “dues” to buy the politicians.

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  • ghostsouls
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:50pm

    Outstanding! Finally, maybe children will actually learn something now. I hope every school district in the country promotes this program, because the results of having the best of the best to teach our children would have an enormous IMPACT!

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    • sooner12
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 6:28pm

      It really depends on just what they are teaching. In Social Studies they’re teaching the Progressive Socialist crap, as one example. Kids today I‘m afraid just don’t care about their education. And they are so unrulely. These kinds of kids were dealt with appropriately when I was in school. The parents took up for the teacher and demanded that you respected the teacher as you do your parent. But we live in a different world these days, I guess. My daughter , when she was a teacher in public school, said that she only joined the union in case a student was inclined to sue her. Otherwise, she had no use for the union.

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    • dumboldcontractor
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 6:56pm

      I agree! Perhaps we should use the same method on the Department of Education. Oh wait, that wouldn’t work. There wouldn’t be anyone left except the cleaning crew ;-)

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 7:58pm

      Mz. Rhee is THE most able administrators and negotiators I have ever seen in Govt.
      She should BE the NLRB and can the rest.

      As far as teachers go, Ban the unions, and mandate school vouchers, I don’t even care if you test them. They should compete in the free market like everybody else, the good will rise to the top, the bad will starve or polish floors like they should.

      We have 3400 students in my district, the school budget is 32 MILLION a year !!
      Give each kid & family $100,000 a year and we cut taxes by HALF !
      Multiply that by every district in the country, and the country will be back on track with
      children EDUCATED for the future rather than destined for mickey d’s.

      2012, MORE than just the prez & CONgress, we are aiming at ALL “progressive” boondoggles !

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    • Miguelito
      Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:40pm

      Until we get the government out of the education business our kids are dumed. States and local districts do a better job than the government. I am from a small community and know for a fact that the local public school system changes grades to make the students/school system look better to get more federal funds. Who is left behind?

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  • TheChurch
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:21pm

    A close family member is a teacher in Ohio. She is nuts; yells and screams in her one class per day. She makes $40K a year with full benefits and does little more than play on the computer. Another local teacher threatened to slice a child’s throat – 9 children wrote police statements against her even after she phoned them at home attempting to sway them. She got a paid vacation and is back to work. The union run local media would not cover the story, and the union run police will not answer parents requests for an investigation. All praise the union!

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:57pm

      Don’t forget that there are private sector teachers, too – they may not be accredited, and they may be just a tutor, but if they’re a good teacher, you’ll be able to sell your skills in the free market as well, and you will become known for doing good work. This kind of “accreditation” takes longer, but it’s just as good.

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    • GRAMPA-D-NH
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 6:10pm

      I mean no disrespect when I routinely use the parasite metaphor for public unions, but the shoe fits. The fact is they exist for no other reason than to leech off the host and make life easier and more secure for its members, results be damned. When the host catches on and takes action to separate the parasite, well thats when the life battle and convulsions begin. We are witnessing just the very beginning of the convulsions throughout the country. Many “parasites” are deeply vested in maintaining the status quo because its a matter of survival. Their work ethic and performance would never be accepted in the “dreaded private sector”. So despite the intense and threatening convulsions, we must press on and extract the parasites. Its “kill” or be “killed”.

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    • mydogtippy
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 7:00pm

      There are some teachers in mayfield high schools that sit and play on the computer and tell the the class just read a book.I know this from a parents.Who have request that they look into this,but she is still there teaching

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  • Gypsy123
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:12pm

    Get rid of the poor performers both students and teachers

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    • stanbeck
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:17pm

      gypsy123, You are right on the mark…..

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    • jaxy
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:29pm

      Get rid of poor performing students? Explain to me how you would do that. Aren’t students kind of the point of school.

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    • TelepromoterNChief
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:38pm

      JAXY
      Too easy.
      Kick the poor performers out and register them as Democrats.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 6:55pm

      @ jaxy
      If a student is not competent to go to the next level, DON’T kick him/her UP.
      There is no reason whatsoever to not hold a student back if he/she shows no potential to learn

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  • dirtydog1776
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:10pm

    They certainly act fast. Only took them 20 years plus to clear out the deadwood. How efficient. Watch the test scores zoom higher and higher. The little children have Barrack Obama for a role model so they can soar with their dreams. What more do they need? Follow this sarcastic dirtydog1776 on Twitter.

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  • Sunnyr
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:06pm

    BRAVO!!!

    It‘s about time the incompetent teachers were rooted out and the good ones given bonus’s for their excellent efforts. Michelle Rhee formulated this plan and I hope it spreads across the nation to truly reform education! We will NEVER get there if the nitwits in the UNIONS prohibit the clearing out of excess incompetence, apathy and corruption.

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    • darkloch
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:31pm

      the truth is that we need to do away with the department of education and let each state handle educating there own children as they see fit. the schools decline started with the formation of the department of education.

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    • REDBLOODEDHUSKER
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:53pm

      You nailed it Darkloch. That is where all “reforms” needs to start. Let the states decide how best to educate their children.

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  • Seabee79
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:06pm

    you maen da scools are bwoken how you tink i lern to spel and two reed and right.

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  • llotus
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:02pm

    Teaching may be the only profession that rewards the bad employee as well as the good ones. That is unfare to the good teachers, the children, the tax payers and new teachers ready to enter the profession. They need to weed these bad teachers out during the teaching process. They do it in nursing school every day. Make the reqirements high and cull the ones that fall below the rquirement. Lotus.

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    • REDBLOODEDHUSKER
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:10pm

      Again, …and replaces them with whom?

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    • thebarbarian
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 6:07pm

      to the husker : grow up and pay attention. replace them with those who are capable of actually teaching. then compitition ( YES COMPITITION) for excellence will be the driving force in education and the students will be the gainers from this.

      it’s only commonscense . if the individual is iether incapable or lacks the motivation to do well, get rid of that individual and put someone who is qualified in. STOP PANDERING TO MEDIOCRITY AND MELINGERING DOLTS !

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    • REDBLOODEDHUSKER
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 6:31pm

      I will ignore your insult and keep this civil. I am not pandering in the slightest. Merely, I am stating a FACT that fewer qualified teachers are available to fill positions coming open. This could be for any number of factors. It would be great if there was a market saturated by great teachers to choose from. The FACT is there isn’t. It would great to drop kick bad teachers out the door and install great ones, but right now that does not seem to be the case.

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    • GRAMPA-D-NH
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 6:36pm

      “Teaching may be the only profession that rewards the bad employee as well as the good ones.”

      We can thank the public unions negotiating with the liberal dumboRats for that. Where unions exist, a strong collectivism rallies to protect the lowest common denominator. Its easy to understand. If you’re an average performer you feel 100% secure because there are rock solid obstacles to protect even the very worst,most flagrant underperformers. You will never feel even a twinge of concern to stretch beyond your comfort zone of mediocrity. Most people need a balance of personal passion and threat to perform at their highest over the long term. Competition is the bedrock of free markets, innovation, and advancing improvement. Public teachers unions make sure tenured teachers never have to be concerned about their performance or competition. Our steadily declining literacy and math skill rankings vs. other nations requires dramatic intervention. Eliminating public unions and introducing competition (vouchers) will turn this around quickly IMO.

      GRAMPA-D-NH  
    • Weedwod
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 10:19pm

      Replace them with new teachers. Who do you think? Replace them with all the many people coming out of college who would otherwise NOT have a job.

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  • leftcoastslut
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:00pm

    the only way to fix any school is to get the government out of it

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  • REDBLOODEDHUSKER
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:57pm

    I agree that getting the bad teachers out of the classroom is a good start. But something we need to ask that I don’t see being asked by anyone is: Who are we going to replace them with??

    Less and less want to become teachers due to many possible reasons. Also, 1 in 4 new teachers leave the field within 3 years due to many of the same reasons. So what’s left? If we throw out the bad ones, where are we going to come up with better ones to replace them? There already seems to be a looming teacher shortage, and many schools hire people for content areas that they are certified for just because they have no other options. Couple this with rising student enrollments, you have a very bad situation indeed.

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    • REDBLOODEDHUSKER
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:59pm

      they are not* certified for, excuse me.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:02pm

      How come such bad teachers get hired in the first place ??

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    • REDBLOODEDHUSKER
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:08pm

      In many rural school situations, they might, MIGHT get 3 applicants for an open position. Not exactly a great pool to choose from. Also, a school is required to have a certain percentage of staff as certified in their particular content area. If you get three to apply, and only 1 is certified (bad teacher or not) Guess who gets hired?

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    • On The Bayou
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:22pm

      You don`t have to be good at what you do if you belong to a union Cheez!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • jaxy
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:32pm

      That makes sense…..leave horrible teachers in the class room to waste student’s youth, because there aren’t any teacher without jobs already????? Are you serious, there are many young teachers who would love a chance to prove themselves.

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    • REDBLOODEDHUSKER
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:58pm

      @JAXY, I know it was hard to spot (First sentence in my post) but I did say getting bad teachers out of the classrooms is a good idea.

      So how many good new teachers without ANY opportunity for a job do you know? Just curious ’cause that would be great news!

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    • REDBLOODEDHUSKER
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 6:15pm

      and to clarify – It would be great news that we have good teachers ready to take over when the bad ones are gone. However, I have not seen any data suggesting that we have a large group of teachers fighting for open positions.

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    • concealled9mms
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 6:52pm

      shake a tree and a 1000 teachers fall out there are millions. there sorta like the to many lawyer problem . my wife works at a school in the peoples republic of calif ,when they advertise for a teacher 100s show at big job fairs at the school a thousand showing up is not unusual

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    • REDBLOODEDHUSKER
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 7:17pm

      That’s great! Good teachers will find their way into the system, I have no doubt. However, a job fair is far different from and individual applicant pool for a specific opening. How big is that school system? That might be a factor as well. Hopefully that is the case all over, but personally, at least where I live, the numbers aren’t so rosy.

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    • Weedwod
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 10:26pm

      Your not seriously implying that there are people who wouldn’t jump at the opportunity to use their newly minted teaching license? School districts aren’t hiring because they are experiencing cutbacks. There is a wealth of laid off and newly licensed teachers who would be willing to step up. I don’t know where you are getting your information, but it certainly isn’t credible. To many teachers are out of work because the bad ones are filling the spaces. Unemployment is at sky high levels. You don’t think in a few short years, if there was a demand that the people of a free market wouldn’t jump at the opportunity to have a career? If there is a job vacuum, it’s only a matter of 2, 3, or 4 years before it is filled.

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    • atk2112
      Posted on July 18, 2011 at 9:30am

      Here‘s what people don’t realize. There are intellegent people out there with their teaching certificates, but if you are smart, you are a threat to the system and will never get hired! I know several people who had college degrees and went back to get their teaching certificates. They breezed through the insanely simple teaching programs, and passed the certification test the first time. Guess what happened? None of them have landed a job because THEY WERE TOO SMART! Only those that prove they are not worthy of teaching (need 4 or 5 times to pass the test) are hired. No one in the union-run schools wants anyone who is smart to challenge their lazy ways. And if you hide your intellegence and are hired, and you dare show more aptitude than current teachers in the district, you will be blackballed and never get your tenure. One of my friends was advised to “blow” a couple of her classes and not get A’s, and to intentionally fail the certification test so she would have a better chance of getting hired! Insane!

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  • leftcoastslut
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:57pm

    this will only encourage teachers, like in georgia, to alter the test scores

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    • TelepromoterNChief
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:35pm

      They had all the “encouragement” they needed before this.

      Obama forbid they have any actual accountability to doing an honest job.

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  • jakartaman
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:54pm

    About time pay and employment was based pn Merit.
    Unionism = Communism
    Only protects the weal and or stupid

    This is NOT the USSA – United Socialist States of America

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    • REDBLOODEDHUSKER
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:04pm

      If you base pay on merit, what do you think a teacher will do? (most times) If a teacher stands to earn an extra $3000 of more. THEY’LL JUST TEACH THE TEST! Or pull an Atlanta PS deal, and alter tests to look better, and get more money. You think ed. is bad now, just watch and see what happens when teachers just teach a standardized test to their students so they can earn more $$$.

      Also, how would you grant “merit pay” to those who teach, art, music, business, agriculture, technology, shop classes, etc.? These teachers do not fall directly under ANY standardized test.

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  • ensemble
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:54pm

    I wonder how many of the teachers who were rated exceptional and had good test scores from their students were just changing answers and cheating in order to keep their jobs and get bonuses. Akin to the ten year scandal just uncovered in Atlanta? Maybe the five percent that got canned actually were honest and did not participate in cheating for their own gain and let student grades actually stand. hmmmm.

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  • cheezwhiz
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:44pm

    WTU President Nathan A. Saunders has called “IMPACT” a biased evaluation system because it is run by other human beings.
    ————
    You know what else is run by other human beings ?
    AFL-CIO , EPA, GM and soon Obamascare.
    How about bias in those systems?

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    • BIGJAYINPA
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:57pm

      I find it hard to belive that President Obama and the unions are going to stand by and let these hard-working and dedicated teachers to be maligned and fired like this. This is an outrage that teachers would actually be held to a standard and expected to teach to earn their paychecks. This is an outrage….Just sayin’

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    • kcinco
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:00pm

      don’t forget the Fed, EPA, Dept of Ed, the list goes on and on …..

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  • sWampy
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:40pm

    Only 95% to go, the #1 goal of every conservative in the nation shutting down all public schools.

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    • hauschild
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:42pm

      And, Bingo was his name – oh!!!

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    • TelepromoterNChief
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:31pm

      You got that right.
      Conservatives are opposed to the people being educated, employed, and self-sufficient.
      Thay also eat their young and can see in the dark.
      You need to stop what you are doing at bedtime swampy.
      We have been watching you.

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    • sWampy
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 5:55pm

      No, conservatives are against people being mis educated, the education level in this nation has dropped from number 1 among industrialized nations to 28th last year and dropping like a rock since the federal government got involved. The very last group anyone should want teaching their kids is the government, education is the responsibility of the family/communities people live in.

      Liberals like to spread likes and half truths, you show this perfectly

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    • TelepromoterNChief
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 6:07pm

      For your consideration, I would also like to present an unsubstantiated statistic as well;
      Nearly 93.% (with a 2.5% margin of error) of the statistics presented online are bogus due to the pre-determined outcome.
      79.34% of those are from Liberals, Democrats and Sean Penn.

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  • Keep the Faith
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:35pm

    Stay strong, Chancellor Kaya Henderson ~ the unions will no doubt go ballistic about this. But you’re doing the right thing!!

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    • TelepromoterNChief
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 6:12pm

      Are the union bosses going to make their unemployed due payers throw a tempter tantrum and tear up the White House like they did in Wisconsin when something far less impacting took place?
      I think not.
      The union bosses still get to keep their jobs and hefty kick backs.
      It’d be funny to see the usual banners that a couple of Mexicans usually hold out in front of a business for a week “Shame on you White House.”
      Only a dream though.
      They don’t eat their own.

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  • LadyIzShy
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:35pm

    oh no the unions will have a cow. oh well if they cant do they work to standard which im sure are low, then they need to be fired

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  • cheezwhiz
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:33pm

    Why is Sheila Jackson lee’s mug up in this article ?
    This article is not about racism, right ?

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  • TelepromoterNChief
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:31pm

    Bwhah ah hah ah ah ah ah h ah ah ah a hah ah ha h ah ah hahh aahahah ahh ah ah ha h ah ah h ahah a hah ah ah h ah ah ah ah ahhahahah ah ahah ah ha h a hah ah ah haha hahah ah ah ah h aha ha haha hahha hah ah ahha hahah ((breathes)) ahahah ahh ah ahah ah ah ah hah a ha hahah ah .. .
    h ah ah a ahah ..
    Yeah, right in Obama’s own backyard.
    After he bought off. . err. . I mean bailed out the teachers unions this is what happens. . on the homefront.
    Suck it teachers unions. Your “man” doesn’t have your back. Just make sure your union dues are current and teach his doctrine till you are pink slipped.

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  • ChiefGeorge
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:30pm

    Rhee is an intelligent woman who managed to pull this off. I would like to know how she was able to overcome being labeled a racist by the Union. Test scores are a good indicator but also just listening to the teacher speak when giving lessons and directions. If they use poor language themselves, then it should be a no go situation. Get the riff raff no loads out of the public school system and restore it back to the great standards we had just 30 some odd years ago.

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  • Jack2011
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:28pm

    Wow.

    This cow …….. needs to eat the public school lunch room filled with broccoli and be force fed new government mandated eating habits.

    And, she should take obese Michelle Obama and the very obese Obama appointed Surgeon General with her.

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:31pm

      Henderson – not Rhee is the cow.

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    • UlyssesP
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:43pm

      Man-o-man. Where does that come from. At least get a little icon picture to go with your troll name.
      Geez…..

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  • poverty.sucks
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:28pm

    Michelle Rhee’s five 30-minute White House visits determined Obama to be a High Performer.

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  • whereareyourbrains
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:26pm

    About time. Get rid of all the deadwood. Our taxes are paying. Lay them union people offffffffff!!!!!

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  • Tear Em Up
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:25pm

    The union is going to plotz over this…but, oh well….

    http://traffic.libsyn.com/mikeleeandterrymartin/Number_73_July_16th_2011.mp3

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  • poverty.sucks
    Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:23pm

    How does Obama consider this as job creation?

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:32pm

      There are federal jobs ready to receive them with standards lowered and no expectations of performance.

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    • TelepromoterNChief
      Posted on July 17, 2011 at 6:14pm

      Those sound like “shovel ready” jobs since I’m smelling bull$#!t.

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