Dad Who Shot Up Daughter’s Laptop With a .45 Says Cops Paid Him a Visit
- Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:28am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Tommy Jordan has become somewhat of a hero to millions of parents. Jordan is the dad who found a secret Facebook post his daughter wrote about not wanting to do chores and said Jordan and his wife (the girl’s mother) treated her as a “slave.” He didn’t take kindly to that. So he recorded an eight-minute video that showed him reading the note while smoking a cigarette and ended with him shooting nine “exploding hollow point” rounds into the girl’s computer.
You can read our original story here and watch the video below for a refresher:
Well, the story doesn’t end there. In a new post on Jordan’s Facebook page, he says that numerous people called the police and child protective services as a result of his viral (millions of hits) video. And both paid him a visit.
“For those that feel the need to keep calling the police and CPS,” the Stanly County, North Carolina resident writes, “lol.“ Those letters are the universal symbol for ”laugh out loud.”
He‘s laughing because both the police and child protective services didn’t find anything wrong.
“Apparently both the local police and the department of social services are OK with it. Yes they came. Of course they came. They received enough ‘Oh my god he’s going to kill his daughter’ comments that they had to. I knew that the moment it went viral.. it [sic] was too late and it was inevitable. I’m only surprised it took as long as it did to be honest,” he explains.
In fact, he says the police told him “Kudos, Sir“ and he received a ”thank you” from an entire detectives squad. Another officer, he says, “is using it in a positive manner in his presentation for the school system.”
“How’s about those apples?” he asks. “Didn’t expect THAT when you called the cops did you?”
He also notes that both he and his daughter were interviewed separately by officials.
WSOC-TV reports police in Albermarle, the city closest to Jordan’s residence, told the station they have received dozens of calls and emails asking why they haven’t done anything. They responded by saying Jordan lives outside of city limits and is outside their jurisdiction.
As for the Stanly County Sheriff’s Office, it said Jordan didn’t do anything illegal.
So does Jordan regret making the video? Absolutely not. He writes his only regrets are using the word “ass,“ not wearing his best ”Sivlerbelly Stetson” hat, and maybe not cleaning his boots. Oh, and maybe he’d use a .22 next time instead of a .45. He even seems more fired up than last time.
“The kids today ARE self entitled, spoiled, adverse to working, and basically have NO usable skills taught to them in schools,” he opines. “Yes some of you out there excel. If you’ve graduated high school and at least pay some of your own bills, then I’m not talking to you. If you however are 25 and live with your parents because you’re too lazy to get a job, then yes, I’m talking to you. Half of that is the parent’s fault for thinking that the school system is supposed to raise their kids. The other half is a parent’s fault for letting our school systems get to the utterly pathetic state they are in. It’s your kid.. so no matter what it’s ALWAYS your fault.. get it?”
I have a hunch he has a viral way of convincing you if you don’t.























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Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:02amTommy Jordan says:
Half of that is the parent’s fault for thinking that the school system is supposed to raise their kids. The other half is a parent’s fault for letting our school systems get to the utterly pathetic state they are in. It’s your kid.. so no matter what it’s ALWAYS your fault.. get it?”
So which half are you, Tommy? I guess what you’re really saying is, This is really MY fault and I‘m angry and ashamed of myself for my lack of good parenting skills and it’s reflected in my daughter’s behavior what a complete failure of a father I am,…. so I publicly display my shame by “Executing” my daughter‘s lap top and try to justify it by blaming it on the schools and other parents because I just can’t accept my own culpability in all of this.
Oh,…. I get it now.
What a hick.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:14amI found the video funny, personally. But it’s also a shame. The guy either has anger management issues or entirely too much money to blow. Reminds me of the people who would buy Playstation 3s the day they came out, and then would walk outside and smash them to bits in front of the line snaking around the stores. It’s senseless destruction masquerading as “making a point.” Good for shock value, but the entertainment never fully masks the destructive impulses that pushes someone to do things like this.
Report Post »ares338
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:21amYou are soooooo predictable!
Report Post »1unwashed
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:28amHe made a course correction in his parenting. Give him a break. At least he gets it now. Many of us had the priviledge of being parented by people who new how to train kids with responsibility, hard work and love. He just showed his daughter a lot of love.
MYHEROISRON
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:29amWhen my son was eight (he’s 26 now), I threatened to cut his bicycle in half if he disobeyed me about lighting piles of leaves on fire. Not long after he called my bluff, so I got the hack saw out and cut his bike in half! He cussed at me so I cut his skateboard in half and told him his Play Station was next. He turned out to be a great kid!!
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:36amActually, if you weren’t so myopic, you would realize that Tommy is getting it done, but his daughter was rebelling over that fact, and probably felt justified in doing so by the influence she gets from the school system and the greater leftwing community. What she found out was that that doesn’t fly.
Report Post »Thomas Payne
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:38am@Manchurian
What does it feel like to be a moron?
Report Post »BLACKDIAMONDSKIER
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:41amI will guarantee you that the same people that called the police and CPS on this guy will be the same ones that call the Obama administration when they hear their neighbors disagree with the POLICIES of the administration!! The only difference is when the neighbors get a visit…….It won’t be so friendly. Welcome to Marxism.
Report Post »denispaul
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:43amIt‘s people like you and locke that’s the problem in this country.Useless.
Report Post »Bluefish49
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:45amYou may call him a hick because you probably live in NY with the Socialist Elite but what he did was totally justified. He proved to his daughter that thinks as all teenagers do that they are so much smarter than their parents that in reality they don’t have a friggen clue. This is called tough love no matter what you progressive leftest think. Oh and I also thought it was a damned fine grouping. ….wonder whta type Hollow Points he was using?
Report Post »Bluefish49
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:47am‘The only thing that would have made this absolutly perfect is there had beenn been an “Obama in 2012” sticker on the lap top.
Report Post »Matrix22
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:49amAres338, the word you were looking for is “pathetic” not “predictable.” These idiots probably would have come crying to their kid if they saw that Facebook message and thrown themselves at the mercy of their juvenile court, begging and pleading to “just be friends again.” The fact that he had to do this doesn‘t mean in any way that he’s a bad parent, just that once again, children rebel sometimes and parents have to take corrective action. I applaud him for nipping this in the bud early and sending her a clear message that that behavior is unacceptable. Besides, if you‘re teenage kids aren’t complaining about you, YOU’RE the lousy parent.
Report Post »hurlken
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:49amUnless you walked a mile in that mans shoes you don’t know the frustration….You may be the hick…
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:50amApparently you didn’t hear the actual list of chores his daughter had,he gave her responsibilities and was even pushing her at 15 years old to get a part time job. It wasn’t for lack of parenting it was the entitlement mentality his daughter picked up from her freinds and school mates that fueled her rebelious tirade for having to be responsible.
Report Post »My dad took it a step further and threw me out when I got tooooo big for my britches. lived out of my car for about three weeks. I got an apartment and learned responsibility the hard way. BUT I LEARNED
neffy812
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:53amVery well said, Manchurian. As someone who was raised by verbally abusive and demoralizing parents who had absolutely no desire to listen to my point of view ever, I can imagine how his daughter might have developed such a negative and disrespectful attitude toward him. If people don’t agree with that concept they should go and read some first-hand stories from people who grew up in verbally abusive families. They could learn something. Also, this guy apparently wants to try to make people think he’s some kind of badass cowboy. Not working for me.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:54amThis father did what he was suppose to do, take control of a situation before it got worse. Kids need to know their place in the household. Teachers need to teach math and science and stay out of the parenting business. If a kid acts up at school, you get the parent into the school to find some corrective action.
Report Post »s0ck_monkey
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:55amAs the father of an 11 year old, and stepfather to a 4 year old, I totally agree with this guy! While some people may see what he did as extreme, well, sometimes you have to go to extremes to get someones attention and let them know you mean business.
When my daughter was younger (around 6 or so) she had a habit of going into her room and slamming the door whenever she was in trouble for something. After telling her numerous times, on numerous occasions, not to do that, it finally took a spanking to get her attention…not a beating, mind you….just three pops on her butt to drive the point home. Guess how many doors she has slammed since then? None! And I would like to note that’s the only spanking she has ever received.
Now, my 4 year old stepson is another matter. I have joked with my wife that he’s either extremely stubborn or has a learning disorder. While trying to install the habit of getting him to clean up after himself (putting his toys away, putting his PJs in the little dirty clothes basket, etc), there are times he doesn’t do it. After asking…then telling him several times….to put his stuff away, if he still won’t do it, his toys get thrown away. Especially after he tells me “I don’t want them anyway” when I tell him they will get thrown away. He has called my bluff a few times. Guess who has less toys now?
The point is, sometimes us parents have to go to extememes to get our point across. Obviously, his daughter didn’t learn the first time.
Report Post »Larryjr
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:01am@locked – it’s none of your business how much money he has to blow. This is America… it’s his money to do with as he pleases.
pizzacorner
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:10amFirst *******, he talks about 25yr old that still live at home. His daughter is only 14yrs old, who washes dishes, and cleans the house after school. Name me another 14yr old girl that does that? Maybe Manchurian.Candidate should actually put thought into something before typing….sounds like you are a Liberal…
Report Post »ed0315
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:12amYou’re such a douche bag and obviously one of the cry baby, I wet my pants, please Mr. Government change my diaper liberals who called CPS.
Report Post »scottyb89
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:21amYou are not right
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:24am@smith:
I had chores, very much like this girl’s chores. There were 6 kids in my family. I also had a part time job. At a grocery store in the bulk department. I am also a girl, and I was 15. At 16, I got a job at the bowling alley. As a porter. “Spill on lane 25.” I cannot sympathize with this girl, considering I had far less than she does when I was growing up.
Report Post »scottyb89
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:32amDo you work for the administration Clueless.Gov
Report Post »dwillis13
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:33amHey, Manchurian, check your Mask, I think your “yankee Lib” is showing thru, We the People believe in a Parents freedom to Parent, and we know what it’s like to try to Deprogram our kids when they get home from school. and for the record, I’ld trade 10 progressive thanking Foolks for 1 of those “Hicks”
Report Post »HumbleMan
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:37amHe said he wasn’t addressing everyone … but those who have a 25 year-old living at home with no aspiration for a job and no skills.
I figured most liberals wouldn’t get the subtlety of half and half make a whole. The guy’s not stupid. You Boston, New York, San Francisco,Chicago folks had better learn real quick that having an accent doesn’t make a person “dumb”.
My hat’s off to this fella.
Report Post »obrien871
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:40amTommy did his part as a parent… he blasted the brat’s laptop.
I‘m pretty sure she learned not to disrespect and bad mouth her parent’s again since they brought her into this world, changed her diapers, feed her, clothe her, put a roof over her head, and even bought her a nice laptop. She didn’t appreciate all that evidently because she was whining about having to do a few chores but bet she does now.
Since you’re such an enlightened “non hick” you would’ve just ignored your daughter disrespecting you and let her continue down the path to spoiled bratdom. Pretty sure Tommy is talking about parents like you. LOL
This cowboy‘s daughter will do fine in the world because she’ll learn respect and a work ethic. Keep up the good work hick! The country would be in a LOT better shape with parents like him.
Report Post »drago
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:43am@manchurian.candidate/locked aka encinom.
Report Post »You just cant help but to come on here, and show evryone that your brain damaged, wait, never mind, you first have to have a brain, sorry, i mispoke…….
FoeHammer865
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:43amMaybe this was his moment where he realized he was failing and chose to change things? Is your child perfectly behaved and self sufficient, hard working, respectful, etcetera? Come on. Removing the distraction that is the laptop that he obviously believes is part of the problem seems like a first step. Just because he did it with more flourish than your refined uptown “educated” snotty attitude would allow you to do, doesn‘t mean he’s a “hick”. Get over yourself.
Report Post »mrqstixx
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:46amYour the hick. Moron.
Report Post »HumbleMan
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:53amBluefish, … it made me laugh, but the government media (NBC …. wow, I just connected that with the National Broadcasting Channel) would’ve taken that up as a banner.
It‘s not BHO’s fault (personally) that the kids are dumbed-down. Yes, it’s the people he runs with that have been doing this for 100 years. This is about a parent’s relationship with their kids, the abuse of social media by everyone, and the failure of the public schools … and yes the failure of many parents to be as involved as Tommy and his wife. I hope the girl turns out better for it. I believe she will.
Report Post »linearnonlinear
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:02amHe’s not done yet ! What you saw was his effort to stop what you’re talking about. But SEE! You kick him for it. So YOU ARE the problem too. Let the Man Do His Work !
Report Post »jdare
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:05amHe may or may not be a hick, but you for sure are a jerk. You think one person can change the entire school system. With this action he is at least attempting to get his daughter thinking correctly despite the school system. What are you doing except trying to spread negativism. Go get another glass of kook-aid and only speak when you have something positive to say. Kudos to this father. We need more like him. If you really want to fix the education system, vote republican next fall and demand the dismantling of the Dept of Education. There is no constitutional authority for its existence and education has been on a downward spiral since its creation. TEA! Fair Tax!
Report Post »WatchingThePuppetShow
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:07amSorry you obviously are to stupid to understand the point of all of this.
Report Post »Favored93
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:08amWow … This guy is me…. I bet his parents were absent and disconnected and he is seeing it show up in his daughter. It looks to me like he is trying to arrest his little girls downward spin. GOOD FOR HIM!!
Report Post »Full opposite rudder, hit the throttle and pull back hard daddy ‘o!!
I did not have a father growing up and the results have been embarrassingly obvious. God had to shoot a few things in my life and as a result it was saved. Now I have two small boys and am scared to DEATH!! I have NO CLUE what I am doing. My wife and I have a few parents we can look to that have godly adult kids so I am getting fathered as I am fathering. I just pray that I have effectively “shot” those things that tend to show up from one generation to another.
What this guy did is not only legal it was the right thing to do. Her “crime” was on the computer so he got rid of it in a way that would get her attention.
God bless this guy!
Docrow
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:12amWe can be the most perfect parents (and none of us are) and it’s still up to our children (and none of our children are perfect either) to make a choice. That choice does not define the parents. It defines the child.
Report Post »PlowMan
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:16amManchurian.Candidate, your a morron!! This guy is awesome! I wish more parents were like him. To put is another way by quoting a movie line: “that was totally wicked!” (Think little boy on a tricycle)
Report Post »ScreaminEagle
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:22am22‘ S are for *****’s, up the anti and get a 44 Mag.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:22amYesterday, my 2nd grade daughter brought home a “valentines” for us that she made in school. It was a chore list where each one was considered a gift for us. Things like, I will help with the dishes, vacuum, water the plants. She told her teacher that she already does those things.
Report Post »My 6th grade son who is home schooled, said his friends all get paid for this kind of stuff and he said he told them “why would you get paid for doing that? Its just something you do when you are part of a family. My mom doesn’t get paid for doing the laundry, or cooking dinner why should I get paid for helping her out? Its not fun for her either she does it because she loves us, and so I do it because I love my family too.”
Sometimes you just do stuff because you see it needs doing, that goes for kids too.
flyoverbob
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:27amSpare the rod and spoil the child.I love kids till they get to 13 14 years old,after that keep them away.Bunch of little takers,so it’s not hard to keep them away,just don’t give them anything.
Report Post »I raised two sons who I love very much,and growing up they knew what a belt on the rear felt like.Don‘t give me your candy a bs I’m not buying.Both my sons have good jobs today,never been in jail,never had a drug problem.
I came from a big family,with 1 brother and six sisters,I saw first hand what happen when you don’t use a stern hand with kids.If they talked to me the way they talked to their parents they would be spitting teeth.They have no respect for you or your property.
jb.kibs
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:27amanger management issues?! you people are hilarious. it’s getting pretty obvious that most of you are childless little kids who feel entitled to everything. as soon as you have some children, and get past the first 18 years, you’ll be able to open your young little pie holes.
People who call the police, CPS, or anyone on anyone else should be punished with the same crime they are calling for, IF the call is to be a FALSE WITNESS. We need more accountability from ALL sides. tattle tells should be punished severly.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:30amactually he shot the laptop because she’s a demanding little B.
he just put 130$ into it for her and she uses it to write a hate letter about him.
yeah.. i would shoot that thing too.
you can call him a hick for it, but i’ll call you a loser, nonparenting, douchebag for sitting there and letting your 16 year old walk all over you like that. Good luck when, IF, you can have children you flouride drinking little idiot.
Report Post »eric6161
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:37amIt takes some people a bit longer to realize the bill of goods we were sold with the public education system we have. Is it good? Of course it’s not. Many of us realized this long ago and home educated our children. Some of us never did anything and visit the penitentiary on weekends. Some let it get out of hand and realize something needs to change NOW. Better late than never…Tommy has come to grips with his daughters sorry state of affairs but he has taken the bull by the horns and that is what is most important. His daughter is a child and as such needs her parents to guide her. She will love them that much more when she is 30. Most of us were rebellious when we were that age.
How would she feel if her parents weren’t the way they are? Look at our prisons and ask the inmates… most never had a father in the home thanks to LBJ‘s ’war on poverty.’
Report Post »Cat
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:42amHeck, his daughter got off easy …
Report Post »Try a razor strap across your backside
You’ll learn faster then a snapping gator’s jaw who the bosses are around the parent’s house
loveliberty83
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:49amyou are the hick-there is so many illmannered kids today who have influence on other kids , teachers who should not be teachering who have no pride in their work-he took responsibility , maybe you should check your kids computer & be a real parent
Report Post »kindling
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:55amHe is the half of parents that see the mistake they made by letting their kids have access to the world before they have the brains to behave. He and many more parents are taking away that access and I say good for them. I think anything….highschool, malls, internet, cell phones and such…are the worst thing for teens. look what has become of them in the last 100 years! I hate high school! It is the worst place you can ever send a teen. You get groups of kids together and the larger the group the worse they get. The best thing we could do for our kids is take them out of school and keep them with us and teach them to be responsible capable hard working adults. Problem is to many parents today and lazy welfare drug addicts.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:56am@JB.Kibs
“anger management issues?!”
Yes. Do you own guns? I do. Know what guns are used for? Self defense and protection (and hunting, if we’re talking about something larger than a handgun). They’re not used for shooting laptops. Was it entertaining? Yes. Did it make his point? Indeed. Do normal adults pull out a gun and shoot a several hundred dollar piece of equipment that they just spent an additional hundred+ on to repair? Heck no. You take it away from your kid until she learns to behave. If you’re more tech-savvy, you tell her that you’re installing a keystroke device and tracking her web browsing until she can be trusted or can afford her own machine.
Guns have a place, and it’s not for venting your anger on costly machinery. There’s a reason this video is viral; people may want to do this, but they don‘t because they realize it’s going too far.
Report Post »bs_detector
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:05amI saw the video and I think the punishment fits the crime here. She publicly disrespected her parents on social media. So, he publicly responded to what she said, and then removed the means for her to disrespect them further. Kudos by the way for the method of the removal by the way. I especially think that making her pay for the software he installed and even the bullets he used are going to be effective in driving home this particular lesson. I think the only thing that might have been more effective is to have made her do away with her own laptop in some way.
Report Post »obrien871
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:07amAwesome & he’s absolutely right. His daughter was behaving like a spoiled brat she had a laptop & she had to do some chores around the place to earn her keep. She shot her mouth off being disrespectful to her mother & father so he shot her laptop. LOL Now she can do even more chores to earn a little extra to buy a new one.
I’ve been in the work force 30 years now & am starting to see some of the “trophy generation” wonders coming on board. We just got a new college grad & he‘s already thrown a baby hissy fit because our boss told him he wasn’t doing a good job. I thought that was being generous because he was doing a horrible job.
So he went & sulked at his desk then came over & told our boss very loud & with a red face that he didn’t like the way he talked to him & that he was taking his ball & going home for the day so he stomped away & slammed the door.
He didn’t come in the next day either his wittle baby feelings were so hurt so bad. He‘s lucky I’m not his boss I would’ve said get your ss back in your chair & get to work & if he didn‘t show up the next day I would’ve suspended him for 2 weeks without pay.
This is what we have to deal with thanks to over coddling parents & a school system so obsessed with “giving” children “self esteem” when they didn’t earn it. We’ve got a whole bunch of brats that have been told everything is their right & it should be just “given” to them.
This cowboy’s daughter will do fine sh
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:10amIt is totally essential for a good parent to show a kid who is boss. (It should to be done before the kid is six years old for the most peace and tranquility.) If you don’t, the kid will show you who is the boss. It is the parent’s choice. Any way you do it works just fine.
Report Post »Truth1776
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:24amTo Manchurian.Candidate: I guess you are one of those air for brains that believe children should be given everything they want and wrapped in cotton with a government spoon in their mouth from conception to grave – never accepting the consequences of their actions. Good luck with that!
Report Post »Liberalismsamentaldisorder
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:25amTHAT is how you spun this in your head? Your vision is clearly clouded by your own bias. Run your life how you see fit. Let others do the same.
Report Post »dmehl0404
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:25amI don’t know if you have raised children, but he fact that what she was complaining, about was mild compared to what it could have been. She could have been talking about how many kids she had sex with,the drugs she was taking, on and on you get the point. She sound like a good child who was just frustrated about the things normal kids gripe about. Parents need all the support they can get. He sounds like a WONDERFUL dad who made a point in his way, nothing wrong with that.
Report Post »Misty Williams
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:31amI enjoyed this so very much. Mr. Jordan is an excellent parent, and thank God he is taking responsibility for his daughter. To Manchurian.Candidate: I don’t normally go for personal attacks, but you’re a very foolish person.
As far as fault… Mr. Jordan is right. UNTIL the children are no longer children and have become adults, say 20 or so. (Yes, I know the legal age is 18, but I have now two children over the age of 18, and two more turning 18 next month, and at 18, none of them are really ready for the *real world*, it takes a bit of maturing beyond the “I’m 18 I can do whatever I want” phase. Anyway…) I would say that by 20 the kid either gets their head on straight and does something worthwhile, or it’s on them. And I’m not volunteering to support them indefinitely while the fiddle-futz around. If I make mistakes as a parent, well, that happens sometimes, I’m human too. But by 20 or there about, the individual needs to pull their head out of their hind portion, and get to fixing their own life. And as long as they’re making real, sincere efforts, my husband and I do all we can to give them a leg up. Fortunately, our kids so far have sought jobs from the time they were around 14 (not always successfully) and as they’ve gotten older, have pretty much refused to accept the “leg up”, because they want to make it on their own.
Report Post »Cservice
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:34amMy old man use to have a saying and it was ‘18 and you’re out’. God bless him for it.
Report Post »Who would Jesus bomb?
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:37amThank you, Thomas Payne! Manchurian Moron = part of the problem. Tommy Jordan = part of the solution.
Report Post »Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:46am“You Boston, New York, San Francisco,Chicago folks had better learn real quick that having an accent doesn’t make a person “dumb”.
Report Post »@manchurian.candidate/locked aka encinom. ”You just cant help but to come on here, and show evryone that your brain damaged, wait, never mind, you first have to have a brain, sorry, i misspoke…….”
“Your the hick. Moron”.
“Sorry you obviously are to stupid to understand the point of all of this”.
“22‘ S are for *****’s, up the anti and get a 44 Mag”.
“you can call him a hick for it, but i’ll call you a loser, nonparenting, douchebag for sitting there and letting your 16 year old walk all over you like that. Good luck when, IF, you can have children you flouride drinking little idiot”.
Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:48amThanks for your comments everyone. I enjoyed reading them. Just so you know, I’m not offended by the insults and feeble attacks on my views on this subject. I expected that. Btw, I support your rights to express your opinions and I understand why many of you feel the way you do about this particular story/issue. But I don’t think any of YOU understand mine. This guy is reaping what he sowed. His actions are the result of his failures in the first place. I have 4 children. All grown up and doing very well. Why? Because I raised them to be respectful and responsible children that would grow into respectable and responsible adults. Not once did I ever have to resort to using a FIREARM to get their attention. This man essentially provided what amounts to a videotaped confession of his failures as a parent and punctuated it with 8 rounds of .45 cal. hollow points. This is not what I, or any decent, loving, responsible, and yes, EDUCATED, self respecting parent would EVER consider to be “Good Parenting”. It is exactly the opposite. He has only succeeded in making a fool of himself and driving the wedge between him and his child even deeper. I feel sorry for his family. And I feel just as badly for those who of you who support this kind of behavior.
I say he’s a Hick because he acts like one.
And if my views on this cause you to think I’m a “Liberal”, that’s just fine by me. You can call me anything you want but you all know that this type of behavior is wrong.
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Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:49am@Manchurian You’re a woman, I know that. You are also probably an elitest who is maried but, hates men. You and your “rub their belly and tell them everything is ok” attitude is what has destroyed this country. Take your shelves of participation trophies and huddle in a corner like golum. People like you never do the heavy lifting in this country but rather feel as though they should be in charge to tell what should be lifted. Leave the country for Europe and join the other nanny state cry babies.
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:50amMANCHURIAN: “This is really MY fault and I‘m angry and ashamed of myself for my lack of good parenting skills and it’s reflected in my daughter’s behavior what a complete failure of a father I am”
You’re kidding right? You can have the best parenting skills but kids will rebel despite all the love and attention they are given. What he did was a display of love to his daughter in telling her she can’t walk all over him and do as she pleases. Kids these days are entitled and need discipline. Good for him. More parents need to to charge.
Report Post »Melvin Spittle
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:51amManchurian, you probably accepted failure. You know the old saying ” you can lead a horse to water, but you can‘t make’em drink”. I see this failure mentality because I believe and have proven with my own children that you can lead a horse to water, but sometimes you gotta induce them to drink. Read that anyway you want.
It is you Manchurian that does not get it: He is recognizing the fact that it is HIS fault and the buck stops with him. He realizes that you cannot blame external elements for parenting failure. He is taking action to correct his daughter’s behavior.
Report Post »Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:54amIt’s just wrong.
Report Post »Tea Party Animal
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:54amManchurian: His comment was about 25 year olds still living at home with no future. HIS daughter is 15, so he’s not done parenting yet, and there is still hope. Maybe next time, before you make an *ss of yourself you should actually read the story before making a stupid comment. Or maybe you can’t read? Who’s the hick now?
Report Post »NorthWestSnowman
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:55am@ Manchurin & Neffy,
It is people like the two of you that need to pull your heads out.
I here this crap all the time living here in the NW with all these left wing nut jobs.
My sister raised her kids based on “How they felt that day”, Oh you don’t feel like cleaning your room, OK, why don’t you lay there in your MESS while you watch TV, play Nintendo or XBOX. Maybe you’ll feel like it later. It was embarrising to take any of my friends over there. The place was a pig sty.The kids are now in their mid 20′s and are worthless.
Oh, based upon your response, you probably don’t have any kids of your own.
Keep up the great work Tommy! If there is a next time, roll over her tricycle with a Truck!
Report Post »Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:07pmI read the story and I understand what he said. Or I understand what he was TRYING to say. But his actions speak louder than any words and his actions are deplorable. He’s still the Hick, and you’re waving his flag for him.
Report Post »I look at my children and have nothing but pride.
toto
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:07pmIt’s true that parents have abdicated their responsibility for the their children, and the schools are suffering after 40 +yrs of liberal progressive slop that holds neither teachers or students to any definable standards that are useful.
Report Post »ItsTupacImBack
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:09pmThank you.
Here’s a parent. http://www.youtube.com/user/SHAYTARDS/#p/u/242/-AmJXpezH3U He may dress like a kid sometimes, but his own children are proof he truly knows how to raise human beings and be a dad. Good people.
Report Post »john141714
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:13pmwow man you don‘t get it do you I was going to go on a rant here but it wouldn’t do any good. So all I can say is God bless and I’ll be praying for you.
Report Post »john141714
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:20pmneffy812
Report Post »Mabee you should read his daughters facebook. His daughter and him get along fine I bet you did not know he didnt put this out for all to see. He put it on her facebook so her friend and friends parents would see. Dont open your mouth without knowing the whole story. So many people do that and make an ass out of themself. You saw a video of a man shooting his gun at a computer and think he is going to shoot her. I think if he was going to do that we wouldnt be talking about this story at all.
AKDuclos
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:21pmOutstanding use of a fire arm. Did the same thing to my laptop but for a different reason. At a minimum he states the obvious. Our schools suck. How‘s that whole Union Teacher Thing workin’ out for ya ladies. Yepper, I can’t buy gas for my truck to go to work but the ******* Economics teacher drives a Benz. Loved his video. Support his methods. Glad the cops did too.
Get a tissue.
Report Post »ItsTupacImBack
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:23pmI’m not trying to taunt you or anything, but go ahead and speak up. I don’t think you were talking to me, but you don‘t really want say that just cause don’t care enough, do you? You can disagree. Got anything to rave about? Just playing, have a good one y’all.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:24pmStill have to disagree with his approach!
Many who have commented on this story (last time and this time) gloss right over the fact that the teen daughter was speaking privately to friends about her socalled situation. He violated that privacy and with that knowledge and went on a tear which was waaaaay over the top.
If my kid says something hurtful behind my back or in their private journal…which I somehow happen to peek into, am I supposed to punish them for those hurtful comments? No sir! You tuck that away because you were not even supposed to see it…it was private.
Some also glossed right over the fact that it was not due to her NOT PERFORMING said chores. This was not the reason he used to shoot the computer up. She apparantly was carrying out said chores which was the issue she griped about in private. Until she stopped neglected in doing those chores then nothing should have happened. If she did neglect her chores, then the computer could have been taken away as punishment.
Where this man fails is that he punished his daughter out of his own anger at being hurt and frustrated to read something he was not supposed to see. Hello!! Those of you who supported him did so out of a kneejerk response and believed what you were hearing and seeing was the best approach and that he had every right. He had the right to blow the think away because he paid for it but that doesn’tc mean he should.
Now I gotta go get my meds and put my pants on
Report Post »Rowgue
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:24pmTaking something away that the kid wants is a tried and true method of discipline, and one of the only ones you can still use without being prosecuted for child abuse.
There is nothing shocking or revolutionary about it. The fact that he destroyed it simply means that it isn’t a temporary measure, and that it’s not coming back at the end of the week.
Report Post »LookTowardsTheLight
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:27pm@Thomas Payne
“@Manchurian: What does it feel like to be a moron?”
Agreed. Thanks for stealing my thunder LOL.
Report Post »Maji
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:29pmNC is being inundated by people (for the last 4-5 yrs.), moving here to find jobs
The shame of it is…its crazy libs! In the past few yrs. there has been an increase of rabid anti gunners.
I’m pretty sure these are the people trying every angle possible on this guy!
Don’t know him but Jordan is probably a good dude!
Report Post »LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:49pmMANCHU, you’re an idiot.Go look in the mirror and repeat this line “I am an idiot, I’m not as smart as I think I am”
Report Post »OklahomaBound
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:51pmLOL, the lib parents tried to get this guy in trouble with the law for his tough love and use of a gun and instead he got a pat on the back by the police. Sweet!
Report Post »Clive
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:52pmonly an idiot would think this is a good way to parent.
its not the gunshots that bother me…
its taking your family business and parenting, and putting it on youtube. its humiliating, and it will last your entire life.
this guy just wanted to be famous… a hillbilly hero to fellow hillbillies… and he has succeeded.
Report Post »blazer809
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:52pmhe’s just a parent that corrected a problem. you could save some time, forget the post and dream to be so bold.
Report Post »Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:58pm@CHIEFGEORGE,
Report Post »Thank you for pointing that out. Tommy invaded his daughter‘s privacy and found something he shouldn’t have been reading in the first place. Then has the balls to go Ballistic over it. LITERALLY!
People,… if this guy had been doing a better job of parenting in the first place, I doubt that his daughter would have written what she wrote at all. Even so, he had no right to invade her privacy. The fact that he did is an indication that there is very little in the way of respect in this family. And to blame the child for it is completely and totally absurd. Who do you think she learned it from? It‘s not the school’s that teach children to be disrespectful. Are you for real? Kids learn what they’re taught at HOME. They take that with them to school and act out these LEARNED BEHAVIORS. I’m just amazed (and really saddened) by the level of ignorance and denial of culpability over this issue. Anyone who thinks this is acceptable behavior from an ADULT is gravely misinformed.
This isn’t about Liberal ideals vs. Conservative. This is about knowing the difference between right and wrong. It’s obvious that Payne is frustrated and angry, but his reaction and behavior is indicative of what his daughter was writing about in the first place. This guy has a problem. I hope he gets help for it because he doesn’t seem to be doing well on his own. I sincerely hope for his family’s sake that this story eventually ends well.
netjet
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:59pmI & my wife knew from the beginning to only make rules that we could enforce, & we intended to enforce otherwise like any human being; your children will test the water to see what they can get away with-also you must lead by example, which is the most powerful tool. Outside of that the sanctions are up to the family, but you can’t follow your children around 24/7 & whatever they do is by their choice & a collection of experience.
Report Post »CalIdaGirl
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 1:10pmGet a life *******!
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 1:16pmI have to agree wholeheartedly with Manchurian! Just like I did when this story ran a couple of days ago. I saw the news of this yesterday regarding the PD follow up and though the Blaze should get a scoop/tip. So I sent it in.
For those who attacked manchurian and myself your really demonstrating the very liberal mindsets you rail against. You demonized him and me and anyone else who tried to show you the truth of this issue. Now I don’t know about Manny but I have three kids myself. Two of which are now out in the world and doing well for themselves. They put themselves through school by working part time sometimes at several jobs. We are not rich nor liberal in anyway. So that argument or that label will not work. I am blue collar and grew up on the tough side of a city. My parents were strict disciplinarians and so am I…I never spared the rod you could say but I always excercised great care for the most part in handing out punishments so that I myself would not have to apologize for being overly zealous in my rage. This is where he fails as a parent. He was angry and took it out on a computer. His anger stemmed from something he had no business prying into. Some would say maybe he was just checking to make sure she was not communicating with older men…ok but it stops there..if you then find out she’s griping about work at home…there is nothing to be done but stay on top of her for the chores end of it. Real positive role model there.
Report Post »Bowlz
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 1:24pmA Hick? He’s the kind of man that would have the courage to protect you from a predator on the street. It’s a cheap insult.
Report Post »Kids are lazy today, and it is because of the parents. I have seen it and it is a shame. If parents don’t discipline their kids and set boundaries, the kids will MAKE the parents do it at some point. Discipline and boundaries are the result of love to create character in young adults. For those who can’t see the connection, please consider that it is possible that boundaries and discipline based in love, are what children need and want.
FYI: He may have embarrassed his daughter for now by taking such an extreme (legal) measure, but she will go to bed every night knowing that her Dad will fight for her in all ways, and that she is worth it to him.
gotty
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 1:31pmyou are the one that doesn’t have a clue. really
Report Post »sacwoodpusher
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 1:48pm@Manchurian
The school tries to teach the kids that parents can do nothing to them. They come home with an attitude saying that you cannot discipline me, you cannot make me do chores, I am entitled to a computer, I am entitled to this, that, etc. I told my daughter to call CPS, and handed her the phone after she gave me that spiel. If they don’t like it at home, mine are free to leave. If they stay, I’ll do my best to educate them and raise them in the way I think they need to go. My kids aren’t beaten, but I’m not going to let them rule my household.
The school system apparently has given up on teaching kids reading and math, so now they teach liberal ideology.
When my son was 15-16, I was pretty sure he needed removed from the gene pool. I kept on his case, I pushed homework, I pushed chores, I laid down the law……Somehow, I let him live, and he turned out fine. Works a job and goes to college. He lives at home because that allows he and I to save on housing while attending college. I have no problem with this. Having raised 5 now, I know that teaching responsibility is number 1, otherwise, they will end up nowhere.
I also have no problem with killing a laptop or a TV in order to straighten a kid out. I work hard enough, and if I want to kill a laptop, I can afford it. I bet it felt good. Sometimes, laptops need killin’.
Report Post »rc30
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 1:54pmWell I would of did it a little driffernt. I would of found the girl she hates most in school and gave the lap top away. That just me but I love the way he did this.
Report Post »The King
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 1:58pmYou are the problem.
Report Post »Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 2:03pm@SACWOODPUSHER,
Well,… if you do it right,… hopefully you’ll never get to that point. I wish you all the best.
To everyone else, I offer you a challenge:
When your kid comes home from school today, be there to greet them with a loaded .45 cal handgun, take their laptop and say, “This one’s for your Mom”. And then do what Payne did. Watch what happens after that.
Or,…
Be there to greet them with open arms and say, “You’re my child and I love you, but we need to talk about a few things”. If you treat your child with respect, they will respect you in return. If they are screwing up, discipline them,. but treat them with respect. Your results will be much more to your liking. And to theirs. That‘s all I’m saying.
Happy Valentine’s Day!
Report Post »Obeeone
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 2:21pmMust be a freaking liberal commie *****.
Report Post »1 navajo man
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 2:26pmSounds like a guilt trip. No need to tell all. We know where you stand. What do your kids call you. Dad. or “Hey You. Fart Head”. Sounds like you just might be one of those parents I did not turn out to be. .I am a hick just as Mr. Jordan is. I am proud of it.
Report Post »So what is your excuse?
sickwiththis
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 2:39pmNeffy812,
Report Post »I did grow up with a verbally abusive parent, and for you to label this father as such is absolutely ridiculous. It’s an insult to anyone who ever was truly abused to label simple common sense good parenting as abuse, as if the mamby pamby ‘why can’t we be friends’ parenting is the only way to go. In a sense, easygoing non-parenting is more destructive than a bit of tough love.
Pat Houseworth
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 2:48pmYou still have you lips locked on Obammy’s Backside MC? You are one gutless piece of work….why not move to Canada, or better yet, that that .45 and put you out of all of our misery….? Just Saying Sparky, you suck!
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 2:49pmI don’t know why everyone is upset – he let her off lightly. If she was a muslim she would have been stoned to death, married off to one of the neighbor camel jockeys or shipped to some cousin in the mountains annd have to sleep with the goats. On top of that he provided a job for a person in China when she saves enough money to get a new computer. I’ts like one of my daughter in-laws cousins who got a cell phone for her daughter when she was 8 and now at age 12 she is pregnant. Duh – what did they expect!
Report Post »SidneyDave
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 2:50pmApparently you don’t understand the whole story. He is take the responsibility of parenting, that’s what this story is all about.
Report Post »constantnfaithful
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 2:53pmOnce you recognize the problem it is your responsibility to correct it and correct it he did. Way to go DAD! Prayerfully your daughter will learn a good lesson from this.
Report Post »biblegeek119
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 2:58pmAnd he is doing something about it.
Report Post »Firefighter 538
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 2:59pm@Manchurian
I would explain it to you but I’m all out of puppets and crayons!
Report Post »cstrasburger
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 3:03pmAre you totally braindead, and missing the point? The answer to that should be self evident…..
The man had had enough….due to what we are finally paying attention to these days, and fortunately, it took onumbnutz to wake us all up.
I am quite proud of this man, and you, must be a loser that still thinks it is not the schools, and the parents. Here’s a fact for you….you are. Your clear apathy, is sad….
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 3:05pmMANCHURIAN: “Thank you for pointing that out. Tommy invaded his daughter‘s privacy and found something he shouldn’t have been reading in the first place. Then has the balls to go Ballistic over it. LITERALLY! People,… if this guy had been doing a better job of parenting in the first place, I doubt that his daughter would have written what she wrote at all. Even so, he had no right to invade her privacy. The fact that he did is an indication that there is very little in the way of respect in this family”
Oh my gosh! That is not the real world. I know of someone who a few months ago found out their 14 year old daughter was online with a pedophile. She didn’t know what he was or that it was a bad thing to do. She is a good kid, but just thought she was chatting with someone. The parents are wonderful, godfearing people and saw that she had created a facebook account that no one could get into. Thank God they found out and then had to explain the dangers of this to their daughter. This had nothing to do with bad parenting. Had they respected her “privacy” as you say, and not done this, it could have been disasterous to say the least. Parents are to save their children from the evils of this world, and to let them do what they want because of “privacy” is not good parenting. You cannot rely on just your parenting skills and hope for the best. Peer pressure is strong and kids are curious. It is always easy to judge someone else if it hasn’t happened t
Report Post »chfields62
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 3:06pm@ Manchurian.Candidate
Report Post »You are the moron hick!!! Obviously you have never raised any kids or you would know, no matter how good a job you do, kids will be influenced by outside forces you have no control over. All you can do is teach them whats is right
MittensKittens
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 3:21pmMANCHURIAN.CANDIDATE – You‘re what’s wrong with America, please don’t procreate we have enough morons voting today as it is!
Report Post »Aviyah
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 3:23pmWho are the dumb ass nut jobs who keep calling the police and CPS??? News flash Leftist idiots: guns are NOT illegal yet in most areas of this country and what moron would imagine firing one at a laptop were against the law? Leftist fools wasting government resources and time per usual!
Report Post »DrFrost
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 3:26pmStraw man argument.
I didn’t find anything the man said to be verbally abusive. He has a teen age daughter who doesn‘t want to pull her weight around the house and he’s telling her that is not acceptable. He didn’t hit her. He didn’t physically threaten her. I find people throw the term “verbally abusive” around when they don’t agree with what someone is saying and instead of dealing with the “what,” which they don’t really have a good argument against, they instead choose to concentrate on the “how” to make their argument seem better.
Bottom line: Nothing the man said seemed at all out of line to me. Shooting the computer is going to seem over the top to a lot of people because OH MY GOSH HE HAS A GUN!!!!! Sorry, you‘re not going to convince any rational person that because he’s willing to shoot the computer with a 45 that he’s somehow a threat to his daughter. It would be akin to suggesting that if he threw the computer in the garbage that me might be close to throwing his daughter in the garbage. OH NOES!!!!! Get a grip.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 3:33pmbecause in a liberal world…killing babies is ok..but shooting a laptop is very troubling.
Report Post »leklogic
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 3:46pm@manchurian and all you left leaning quacks. A hick, No this is good parenting. This is a timeout computer style. All the socialist forces were brought (due to all those idiots calling in) in to make sure he wasn’t doing anything wrong. Kudos for him. Why aren’t you talking about the poor little slave who has to do chores? You lefty elites are so stupid why don’t you go hang out with the 1% more (Bill Ayers and company).
Report Post »pebbles
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 3:48pmManchurian: and you either do not have children, or don’t comprehend what he was saying. He was right, and you, sir, are a complete idiot.
Report Post »FredRehders
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 3:57pmI think what this guy did was GREAT! Tough Love never hurt anyone! All you panty-waste, liberal, waa-waa pukes can go piss up a rope! Obviously, those that called the police and CPS are too busy being best buds with their kids and giving them everything…including what they DON’T need. All he did was prove the point of WHO the parent IS and skillfully demonstrated consequences for the irresponsible actions of a bratty teenager. KUDOS to you, Sir! She will thank you one day and grow up to become a loving and respectable young lady that understands the importance of Right vs. Wrong!
Anyone who does not GET this is raising an OWS idiot!
Report Post »rocktruth
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:16pmThe punishment seemed pretty light compared to old testament laws.
Report Post »DanRShaw
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:48pmIt’s obvious you have never raised kids. His teenager is typical of any teenager during anytime in our history. They reach the age of rebellion and need to be put in their place. I don’t how you raised them in the past. It’s part of the growing process when they reach the age of trying to break away and be their own person. Very few of them do so in an adult manner we expect. They still need to know their boundries and what is acceptable.
Report Post »If he just took the notebook and smashed it with a rock I doubt it would have gotten half the attention it did, if at all. It was only the fact that he used a pistol to accomplish the same task. He was angry and instead of taking it out on his daughter he took it out on the notebook. I don’t see any problem with that.
BOBSURUNCLE
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:00pmmanchurian, he is parenting his child. My guess is, your child may be the bad influence on his girl.
Report Post »mojorisin73
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:01pmWhat this father had done means that there will be one less female in this world that will have the “all about me bitch attitude” as well as one girl that will not be on MTV’s(Moronic Television)”16 and pregnant.” When I see females today, especially the under 30 females that have this “bitch” attitude that most modern day young females seem to have, I see lack of parenting and a lot of the females with the “modern day bitch” attitude should of had their material things shot up when they were 15.
Report Post »jungle J
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:09pmhate defines you.
Report Post »BOBSURUNCLE
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:13pmWe have to keep our girls from lots of stuff. Even send them to private school. Used to let oldest watch disney channel, however, her attitude would become snotty(much like the girls that disney presents) I working hard to keep them from being drama queens, so they have a chance to be a woman, not a snotty, depressed VICTUM. (I call them chicks, dont deseve to be called a woman)
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:13pm@Manchurian.Candidate
Yeah! How dare that man take responsibility for his lazy parenting! What an idiot. I mean, all he did was take the situation in hand and deal with it after he realized he screwed up. What a hypocrite.
People like you can’t even hear yourselves speak, can you MC?
Report Post »Country Publius
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:14pm…Or, he may be merely pointing out that it his, YOURS, and everybody else’s (special word) “responsibility” to prevent the deterioration of our public schools and their systematic replacement of “education” with “indoctrination”.
Look at today’s headlines about “agents” inspecting pre-schoolers’ sack lunches, and deeming them not good enough to meet the nutritional requirements of the federal overlords.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! Tommy Jordan’s viral message is no less a message to his self-absorbed daughter as it is to EVERY parent who believes that the state school system isn’t poisonous to our children. Stuff your self-righteousness for a few seconds and imagine what sort of school atmosphere is required to exist that would have made his daughter feel comfortable, let alone justified, to generate such a message and share it with the world.
What? …You think state controlled schools will instill “your” values in your child? If you do, the existing examples across the Nation are clear, you are an irresponsible parent! (…And probably a very ignorant “voter” as well!)
Report Post »Patriot Z
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:20pmat least he is trying to raise his kids, kids are spoiled self entitled brats. ooohh dont get mad…no we have to coddle wittle kiddies feewings til their 26 yrs old and then we expect them to act like adults. this guys farbetter than half the feel good, everyone gets a trophy libs out there who think that kids are delicate snowflakes. better a ‘hick’ than suburbo/urban ghetto trash anyday
Report Post »The New Centurion
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:22pmHick or no hick, the man is absolutely right. The public schools give you a passing grade for scarcely more than showing up in class and parents typically enable their kids anti-social behaviors. Having been a cop for 20 years, with five kids of my own, I might have a fairly informed opinion on the subject. The fact that this gentlemen took some action against his daughters self-entitlement attitude is evidence that he’s fed up with her behavior. So why ask him a stupid question like “which one are you?”
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:24pmBLUEFISH, kudos on the OBAMA 2012 sticker on the lap top.
Report Post »Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:25pm@DANRSHAW,
Report Post »It‘s obvious you didn’t read my comments concerning my own children. In fact a number of you seemed to miss that part. I know all about teenage rebellion and angst and boundaries etc. I was a teenager once too y’know. All 4 of my kids went through the very same thing but not one of them ever pushed me to the point where I felt the only answer was to use a GUN to prove my point. Maybe in your culture, the use of firearms has a different meaning. Maybe in your culture it’s acceptable for someone to use a gun to make a statement. Where I come from, people like that are considered hostile and dangerous. People who videotape themselves holding/using deadly weapons are usually presenting themselves as (or are viewed as) terrorists and criminals. I see this video as a violent act. I see this as nothing short of child abuse. In fact, I see it as a clear indication that this man is capable of doing great harm to his family or ANYONE for that matter. What’s going to happen when an unflattering article appears in the local paper about him? Will he be justified in shooting the reporter’s laptop,.. or perhaps the reporter?
When this story first broke, I commented that he basically BEGGED for CPS and Law Enforcement to pay him a visit. And that’s exactly what happened. He made his point alright. He’s on a watch list now. I don’t think this story is over. I just pray it has a happy ending.
Nick84
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:29pmThis guy is an idiot. He’s mad at his daughter for saying bad things about him online, so he does it 1,000 times worse. He‘s mad because she doesn’t respect the money he put in her laptop, so he breaks it. How is she supposed to learn when he is doing all the things he tells her not to do?
Report Post »quantumscott
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 6:19pmYou’re obviously in the minority. I just hope this going viral is an indication more parents are realizing they need to step up and become a parent like this guy did rather than remaining a wimpy adversary with their kids.
Report Post »judymac10
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 6:31pmNot all of us live in the big city where we have a choice where to send our kids, nor can some of us afford private schools or can teach our kids at home, public schools suck and corrupt children, don‘t be surprised if your kids are bad mouthing you behind your back and you just haven’t caught them at it yet LOL
Report Post »caz1313
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 6:32pmIm sure you were one of the self cop callers.
Report Post »isur5ed
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 6:44pmJust an FYI – he came across the rant his daughter wrote in a sort of round about way. Their family dog has a facebook page of its own. The dog is not registered to her account as a “family member.“ Her message was only supposed to be seen by people in her ”friends” list and another list. She excluded “family” from seeing this. So – the family dog, which was tagged in her friends list, received the update on its newsfeed. “Dad” checks the dog’s page every once in a while, he saw this. Wha-la. Whether he was cunning enough to set up the dog’s account for this very purpose is up for debate, but he didn’t hack her personal account, or open a private journal. Just thought this might educate the discussion. Continue.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 6:52pmAnd yet I will take that hick any day over social left wing elitists like you any day.
And God forbid that your kids ever misbehave. We should never be allowed to discipline kids for misbehaving.
Report Post »bigdaddy1404
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:21pmHe should have used a shotgun
Report Post »Free_Thinker
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:37pmWhat this world needs is a few more rednecks…………. Charlie Daniels
You go Tommy! Next time use a Tommy Gun.
Report Post »SELECT
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:45pmyou big boy are a joke. leave the man and his daughter alone. it is none of your business and the man is not a hick.
he has a job, pays taxes for schools which by most folks thinking are not doing a great job. how about you, you on the take?
Report Post »Escape_AK
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:54pmManchurIan, et. al.
Report Post »Your predominant aspersions to gun toting hicks is very revealing of your left wing ideology. In that the Jordans were visited and cleared of any wrongdoing, is evidence that his pareting method, however unorthodox, were within the law. Would it have suited you more had he sunk a claw hammer into the laptop? In my home, ‘privacy’ is subject to behavior. I find rescinding privileges from my children a very effective teaching tool. Mr. Jordan could have easily given the illusion of shooting the laptop, and gotten the same results. But, he was well within his rights as a parent and an American to take the path he chose. That is a right the socialist progressives will never take away. I applaud Mr. Jordan for his convictions. He went all in on his hand. Other parents could learn from this. Some never will.
PVChapin
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:59pmWhen I was eight years old I was up at five so I could do chores BEFORE I went to school, sometimes that included being out in sub-zero weather or mucking through soupy cow pens. I don’t mean to sound like I am complaining because that is one of the experiences that has made me into the man I am today. This girl has it easy and her dad is only doing her a favor. If all it takes to wake her up is nine .45 rounds, well then that is $9 well spent.
Report Post »barfield2256
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:14pmTone it down just a bit and no one will ever figure out that your’re a hippie, liberal, douche-bag, marxist, commie, progressive, sidewalk-poopin’ troll…
Report Post »WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges10
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:19pm“that numerous people called the police and child protective services …. police in Albermarle, the city closest to Jordan’s residence, told the [TV] station they have received dozens of calls and emails asking why they haven’t done anything … the Stanly County Sheriff’s Office, it said Jordan didn’t do anything illegal”
LOL and WTF !!
Report Post »There are WAY TOO MANY busy-body lefty-liberal-progressive-socialists in America who think “the government” is their daddy or mommy. Past time to GROW UP sheeple!
LawlessKO
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:56pm@VIET VET
FTW
“Actually, if you weren’t so myopic, you would realize that Tommy is getting it done, but his daughter was rebelling over that fact, and probably felt justified in doing so by the influence she gets from the school system and the greater leftwing community. What she found out was that that doesn’t fly.”
Report Post »Partofthemeltingpot
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:13pmI’ve always had a rule for myself. If you let it come out of your mouth, you better be willing to back it up. This guy already warned her before about disrespectful Facebook posting. He had no choice except to take a strong stand. She had to know he would react. She was simply trying to see just how far she could push the envelope. Her post didn’t seem at all like she was afraid of her parents. She knew they would find out. He’s an IT guy for heavens sake. She was lucky to have parents that thought enough of her to provide her with her own laptop. She decided to tell the world that she was sooooo overworked and her father simply gave her a taste of her own medicine. If you want to talk about violating someone, she completely violated her parents but slandering them to the entire world. Hey, if you want to complain and blow off some steam, talk to a friend. Don’t post it for the whole world to see.
Report Post »MS Patriot
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:45pmHere’s a parenting tip. My two oldest sons were in the last two years of High School. I explained to them I had spent an great deal of money to give them the best education I could afford. I drove beater cars for 12 plus years to ensure they had a better than public school education. I told them with their education they were prepared for college and with some high scores on their entrance test they should be able to come up with some scholarships to help them pay for college. I explained to them I had joined the service to help pay my way through school and had to take my public education into a school of higher learning and do the best that I could.
Report Post »I told them they would have until August after their graduation to move out. I told them they could come visit whenever they wanted. I told them if they were ever in a bad way and needed a place to stay they were always welcomed to come home free of charge for a short period of time, because your children should never pay rent to stay with their parents. I also explained that this was non negotiable so they better get a plan for the future together.
I love my two sons with all my heart, I did not want to see that love compromised by my over expectations of their actions or their abuse of my love for them. I treated them as men and they have responded as men. They are living their lives and making their own way in the world. I could not be prouder.
rich66
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:50pmNo, he regrets the fact that he fell for the crap that most parents fall for.
He thought the public school system still taught morals, respect, and all the other positive things that were taught way back in the “olden days” you know , 40 years ago when if you shot your mouth off to a teacher then one of the coaches got wind of it and while you were in Gym class you got a little “extra attention”
Maybe even pick up a paddle and left a lasting impression on your ass. You know before we had douche bag, pieces of human debris occupying wall street.
Get your head out of your ass and realize what is happening to the kids.
They have no direction while they are REQUIRED to attend a **** hole school led by a bunch of dumb ass liberals (mostly) that were educated by dumb ass liberal worthless college professors that wouldn’t last 5 minutes out in the real world (which is why they spend their life teaching, instead of doing)
Get it?
If you don’t care about what kind of adults we are raising then keep up with your stupidity.
Report Post »Oh, and thanks for reading.
Livia
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:04pmI think the only fault this man bears is that he let this kid get away with this for too long. She SHOULD be helping with chores at home and around the yard. She is capable of doing this, but instead would rather show off to her friends about who can be the biggest and baddest brat. I told the woman that gave birth tome one time that I wasn’t going to do something, and she broke 2 tobacco sticks on my back and kegs. Went to school with bloody welts and bruises all up and down my body. This kid ought to be grateful she didn’t catch a belt to her butt. Ahhh, but the parents can’t do that now, can they?
Report Post »nagant9130
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:44pmI’m glad to see some parent has the guts to stand up to their child dis-repectfullness and I hope he doesn’t give in to her and turn around and buy her another one. What is wrong with kids these days, parents give them what they want to keep them out of their hair.
Report Post »TheValley
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:49pm“neffy812
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:53am
Very well said, Manchurian. As someone who was raised by verbally abusive and demoralizing parents who had absolutely no desire to listen to my point of view ever, I can imagine how his daughter might have developed such a negative and disrespectful attitude toward him. If people don’t agree with that concept they should go and read some first-hand stories from people who grew up in verbally abusive families. They could learn something. Also, this guy apparently wants to try to make people think he’s some kind of badass cowboy. Not working for me.”
Let this work for you Neffy, at 15 you DO NOT have a point of view, you do as you are told until you can support yourself. Period.
Report Post »gatekeeper96740
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:21pmHow predictably liberal.
Report Post »oxy275
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 12:01amYou mentioned that you think he’s a hick. Are you jealous of this person getting this attention, and stating his opinion? Or, are you one of the mothers, who want McDonalds to quit selling Happy meals with toys, because you can’t say no to your kid?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 1:04am“How’s about those apples?” he asks. “Didn’t expect THAT when you called the cops did you?”
I like those apples a lot! Can’t buy those apples in the socialist, commie marxist store in Chicago or 1600 Penn Ave!
Oh, did you hear that MO just introduced apples to Jay Leno for the first time since 1984? Does 1984 ring any bells for you? I wonder how Jay Leno likes this Patriots apples? I hope some apple company comes up with a new apple and names it the “.45 cal apple.” Guaranteed to give your Child all the nutrition and discipline he/she needs!
Report Post »Upaces
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 1:05amHe was “trying to raise his daughter the RIGHT way” giving her chores and responsibilities. He worked hard and spent money (you saw the video) — she betrays everything he did for her by complaining on a public forum?
Report Post »He DID the right thing!!!
CMBigdog77
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 1:15amApparently, you people are missing the point. He does not have an anger management problem nor is he a bad parent. His daughter would not have been complaining if he had been a bad parent. She was griping because he was making her do the things that she is supposed to do, her chores. Shooting a computer he bought with his own money does not mean he has an anger problem. It means he was trying to teach his daugter a lesson, one my parents taught me. It goes like this ” If you are gonna live under my roof, you will do what I say”. He is right it is the parents responsibility to train their children up to be responsible adults, not the schools. The schools are their to educate children so they can make decisions of their own, not to feed them, teach them right from wrong, or anything else the parents should be doing. Truthfully, though, I wouldn’t expect any liberal to understand that.
Report Post »mturner
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 2:12amYeah, He had had enough of his daughter’s disrespect and ungratefulness- KODOOOS to him- We need more parents like him.
Report Post »As for the people who called in about it- they are the VERY ones who are not parents. They want to have & be “FRIENDS” with their kids, not parents. After you raise them is when you can be friends, and the friendship is genuine and they have a lot of respect for you being the parent you were. This happens once they have children of their own and appreciate what the parents did, in curbing them.
Mil Mom
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 3:20am@Manchurian
Report Post »re : what a hick!
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If we had MORE hicks like him, we wouldn’t have the rapes and murders at the ows sites around the country, the violence going on in oakland and the parent in seattle who pushed her child’s stroller onto the rr tracks in front of the train “knowing” no one would let a train run over a child!
Yup! This country’d be in a whole lot better shape if more of the kids had hicks for parents!
phil1765
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 4:18amManchurian.Candidate
Report Post »I applaud the guy for doing what he did, doesn’t mean he is a bad parent at all. He is actively setting his daughter straight about what the rules are and what the consequences are if you break them. What the hell would you propose that he do? Put her in time out? All teenagers have their moments when they just completely lose their minds, my son has decided that smoking weed is the way to go now. I don’t blow up on him I tell him I know he is doing it and steal his stash. He might still be smoking but he will be broke most of the time. Creative thinking as a parent is essential to raising your kids you might want to try it sometime.
phil1765
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 5:02amLocked
Report Post »Quit whining you a$$, why is it your responsibility to tell everyone else how they should do things? Are you somehow more enlightened than anyone else? You might think that it was stupid or over the top but no one got hurt in the making of the video and it was perfectly legal to shoot a gun where he was at. It might not have been the way that you would handle things but unless I am mistaken you aren‘t the morality police and Tommy or anyone else really don’t have to give a damn what you think or how you would have done it.
AndiAndiAndi
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 6:19amYou obviously don’t know all the crap your kids said about you and your wife.
Report Post »AndiAndiAndi
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 6:26amYou, obviously, don’t know all the crap your kid did and said about you and your wife. And neither of you bothered to do a damn thing about it. EVER. Keep on thinking that your kid can be trusted. Boy, are you naive. Maybe one day you’ll find out a tiny bit of the crap that was said and done. Stay in your bubble and keep on chanting “I trust my kid. I trust my kid.”
Report Post »anOpinion
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 6:41amYou’d think a father would be mature enough to talk about this with his daughter and the rest of the family rather than humiliate her in front of the world. It didn’t resolve anything, all he did was further strain their relationship.
Report Post »R_U_4_Real
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 11:16amYou have made an excellent observation. The Father is exactly what he has accused other parents of being. I am Pro-Gun and this “Father” made all law-abiding gun owners look bad. I can assure you in my State, where the Chief of Police are hired not elected, he would have been charged with threatening.
Report Post »Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 11:25am@ANOPINION,
Report Post »Good to see there are at least a few people who understand this for what it really is.
Stupidity.
I can be patient with stupidity to a degree, but I have no tolerance for those who are proud of it.
MemphisViking
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 12:52pmI wish some of you people would get over the myth that underage children have a “right” to privacy. Any privacy your children have is a privilege. They certainly don’t have any right to privacy for something they post on the internet using a computer and internet service I pay for. And I really despair for you people who think that anything posted on the internet is private.
Report Post »mikerupp1986
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 1:30pmIf any of you are critisizing this man for his actions you need to review yourself and especially you Manchurian.Candidate. The reason is because you are saying that this man is a poor example of a father who actually is pushing his daughter to get a job, excel and exceed above all that he has accomplished. It is most every parents wish to see their children grow up and excel. This mans child was choosing to rebel like those wallstreeters who think everything should be handed to them. His daughter in her own words were “if I‘m to get a job why don’t you pay me for doing the household chiores. Think about it, she wants a hand out instead of working. I got my first job at 15yrs old and my second at 16yrs old and that is because my parents did not want me sitting around collecting handouts all my life. You Manchurian.Candidate are a hypocrit. That mans actions are justified because he showed his daughter “hey you aren’t gonna rebel against me” and if you can’t see that then you are blind calling him a bad father. That 15yr old girl is a loaded gun like the wallstreeters until she can mature and be an adult. I praise that Father because the United States makes it illegal for parents to spank their childeren. You are a hypocrit because you don’t understand and yet probably do the same things you are critisizing this man for. Your comments are better left to you and your friends at home cause people are bashing you on here and it‘s because you can’t see. Hey that’s okay
Report Post »Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 1:59pm@MIKERUPP-,
Report Post »If this “man” were such a good father, then explain to me how it’s possible that the situation got to this point in the first place? His child is disrespectful because he himself is disrespectful. Children learn by example. Your primary care giver is your model for behavior. Any simpleton with a 5th grade education understands that concept. If you don’t, then I have nothing but pity for you and people like you.
Scientists say that the most abundant natural resource in the universe is Hydrogen. I disagree. I think the most abundant natural resource is Stupidity. And folks like you (and Tommy Jordan) make that theory very plausible.
zaverett
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 2:48pmManchurian.candidate…
Report Post »A hick? Really? A hick? Can’t you left wing social degenerates think of some other way to insult us good god loving parental responsible people…you and your kind sicken me with your entitlement attitudes…take responsiblity for your own actions…you are very…whats the word? Oh ya, Stupid.
jaylew
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 4:35pmIt was his laptop..he paid for it & when he gifted it…it came with a set of rules & expectations. Reasonable ones I imagine as well. The daughter violated a number of the rules. There was a consequence for that. Those of you who are on the edge of needing a fainting couch just to view a YouTube that was never designed for you to see in the first place are simply amazing creatures to me.
Report Post »If you had parents that hollered at you & you are now scarred forever as a result…then definitely live your life how you think is best….maybe consider taking some self defense courses so you can stand up sometime in the future without feeling like the tortured souls some of you purport to be on this thread…if guns bother you…& a man doing with a laptop he bought whatever he wants to that same laptop…if that bothers you….if a person living in a rural setting bothers you to the point where the word hick needs invoked …if any or all of those things bother you….then that’s just fine with me…but understand this while you cry & whine & judge…if you think your “time out chair” philosophy works so well…then perhaps you might consider literally walking unarmed into an inner city neighborhood comprised of a race different than yours….& find some kids there that you can put into “Time Out”..let me know when & where you are going..I’ll call 911 & the paramedics for you. I would advise you only carry like 5 bucks on you at the time & oh yeah dress down…try to blend.
kchercmech
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 6:49pmHe does elude to this being his fault for letting his teen get away with crap in the past. I am pretty sure that things will change for the better since he decided to act the way he did. He finally decided to correct his daughters disrespectful actions.
Why do call him a hick? Only an ignorant individual would call him a hick because that ignoramus does not understand what a hick is – obviously, this man is not one.
Report Post »Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 7:50pm@KCHER-,
Report Post »Since you seem to be the authority on Hicks or Non-Hicks,.. perhaps you can tell us all what a Hick is then. Define the term, “Hick”. And then tell us why this man doesn’t fit that description.
DegenderEm
Posted on February 16, 2012 at 4:46amWell manch,
Report Post »I have read all your comments And i think you’re the one taking this over the top. You are entitled to your own opinion and even go on to say so are other people, but then you also say that you don’t think they should support this guy. Hypocrit
I happen to think what this guy did wasnt too bad. First to those who say this was private! Ha! I’d like to see how would you would like it if your kid wrote about you on a PUBLIC website in a disrespectful way as she did. Facebook is NOT a diary or journal, please don’t be ignorant, I mean it’s key attribute is that it is a “SOCIAL Media” both those words having little to do with privacy. Second, I think If she feels its ok to bad mouth her parents on a public site (to her friends rather then a journal) then its ok for him to punish her the same way. And to say that he embarresed her in front of the world? Good, because she did he same thing to them. I mean yes it’s vital because people pass it on, but her letter can be as easily passed. Duh
Also, manch, You say he let it go too far as a “bad parent” to get to this outcome. Uh wrong, he did a smart move and made a big obvious point to his daughter early on rather then bluffing for years that he wouldn’t take her talking or ranting about him like that publicly. he had warned apparently before that she wasn’t to do his kind of thing again an she stupidly did. To you the gun was over the top, but that was his method for her losing her privileges. Get over it.
Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 16, 2012 at 8:32am@Degenderem,
Report Post »I fail to see how any of my comments make me a hypocrite. I‘ve been consistent throughout this discussion with my condemnation of this man’s behavior. (Btw, I don‘t condone the child’s ). And other than referring to him as a “Hick”, (which I believe is accurate) I’ve refrained from engaging in the name calling and personal attacks that I have been subjected to by the majority of people who weighed in on this topic. True, I do NOT think that people should support this guy’s actions. I made that very clear. I don’t see how this conflicts with their right to express their opinions? I simply don’t agree with them. So how does this make me a hypocrite? Your argument is as full of wholes as that computer.
By the way, this video is now being debated on national tv. It’s on the Today show and I think also the Nightly News shows. Do you think it would be if people weren’t shocked and sickened by it? Honestly, I will never understand why people like you think behavior like this is not only acceptable, but should be encouraged. It’s violent, threatening, immature and supremely “HICKISH” behavior. There is NO credible excuse for it. This man is the poorest excuse for a father I’ve ever seen. And I may be in the minority on this web site, but this site is the extreme minority in the REAL WORLD. His actions will catch up with him soon. I guarantee it.
338_LM
Posted on February 16, 2012 at 11:28amManchurian – you lost me at “respect her privacy”. As a parent, I am legally responsible for my child’s actions, so I‘d damned well better know what’s going on in their lives. There is no privacy for minors in their parents’ home. Sorry. You are part of the problem, but will never realize it.
Report Post »Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 16, 2012 at 12:18pm@338,
Report Post »Well buddy,… I guess I’m one of the lucky ones that never had to worry about what my children were doing. I always knew what they were up to. Because they shared with me all of their activities and accomplishments and I gave them praise for the good work they did in school, at home, and outside the home. Of course, as a parent, you can‘t help but be concerned about your child’s exposure to the evils of this world,… but in the matter of my own children,… I always gave them the opportunity to make mistakes and to learn from them. Not to condemn them for it. They constantly proved their trustworthiness and I was never disappointed. I feel blessed that I had such wonderful kids. But you know what,…? They feel the same way about their parents. I offered my children love,, guidance, discipline and (most importantly) RESPECT. The rest was up to them. I’m incredibly proud of my children. I’m proud of who they are and what they do. And I’m proud of my wife and myself for the way we raised our family. So for you say to me that “I’m part of the problem” is exactly the same kind of ignorance and lack of personal responsibility and accountability displayed by this man. But it doesn’t have to stay that way. I sincerely hope that his family gets the help they need to work things out because it’s painfully obvious that they desperately need it. I wish them the best.
I have nothing more to say about this.
sixtysix
Posted on February 17, 2012 at 8:37amManchurian blah, blah, blah – How are your children doing? I’m sure they are just as arrogant as you are. You assume this fellow is a hick; but, he seems to be doing okay; he doesn’t appear to be on public assistance. When a parent finds that his child is acting out, he takes action. There are more problems today because, while many parents are trying to teach their children right from wrong, many more are sub-letting their kid to the liberal system. Both parents work and it is easier to let the kids do what they want. Teachers often care only for their paychecks and benefits; oh, and brainwashing the children. When a parent takes responsibility, the community starts crying child abuse. Wonder why our kids are going to the dogs.
Report Post »Scari
Posted on February 19, 2012 at 5:39pmWTF are you talking about? he‘s showing good parenting skills it’s your kind that isn’t. For all you nazi‘s out there calling the police there’s no law against shooting a laptop with a .45 it‘s not a living thing and it isn’t mistreating the child either.
Report Post »Scari
Posted on February 19, 2012 at 5:52pmManchurian Candidate, Tommy is doing his parenting fine she got out of line he fixed the problem, not sure what your problem with that is except you’d probably pat your child on the back for talking trash about his/her parents. She had chores to do another sign of good parenting, she was rebelling and got what she had coming.
Report Post »talk2meyou
Posted on February 19, 2012 at 6:22pmI understand you message and I am not saying you are wrong but the way you put your comments reminded me of the guy shooting a laptop. You attack on him will not change him. I don’t know if anything will change him but it is still an attack.
Report Post »The really sad part of this from my view point is that I will bet that he is just like his dad. And his dad is just like his father. This is taught behavior. His daughter is as rebelious as he is.
Just out of curiosity does your dad reach out and chriticies people like you do? Are you like your dad?
johngs54
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 2:22amHey dude, an attitude like yours is why kids act out. When kids do stupid crap as this child did you have to take complete control. This man did. I would have done the same. When my daughter acted out I took things she most wanted and they were gone, forever. She is now a wonderful Mother of my granddaughter and she loves our family. She learned to listen to Dad, not friends and what she picked up in school. Get a life dude, “Spare the rod, Spoil the child”
Report Post »webrat55
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 3:27amYou Are An Idiot….
Report Post »Daktanna
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:25amYou seem to forget kids have a mind
of their own and they use it. They are not a piece
of furniture you can just move around
Yes I Have 6 children It was rough but turned out GREAT.
Report Post »watchmanwatch
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 4:40pmLOL He is not a hick; he is a man that has had enough of a lying, smart@$$ kid who has no respect for their parent whom has given them too much of everything…
The only thing different I would have done was use a 12 gauge with 00 buck and saved a few dollars on ammo and gotten a much bigger and more dramatic effect… LOL
It is coming and no one is realizing that we cannot keep paying for all these entitlements; the well is running dry and there is no one putting the water back in at the rate it is being taken out; we cannot even pay the interest on what we owe the Chinese??? Come on people of American…WAKE UP !!!!!!!
I am not a violet man; but…Bravo young man; you got your kid’s attention…
Report Post »texmex1973
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 4:56pmYour’re an idiot.
Report Post »bigriks300
Posted on February 26, 2012 at 3:27amNot matter which half he is he took RESPONSIBILITY for his lack of parenting buy, first getting rid of the tool by which his daughter opined her “slavery” and then, ASSUMING HERE, most likely talking with daughter about the VALUE of work and how she can WORK to buy her own damn computer next time.
Report Post »Or, at least I think that’s how it went.
By the way, THANKS for the compliment, I’m a “hick” too.
Uranium Wedge
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:24pmI know the CPS would much rather have him take it out on his daughter. That way they would have a purpose.
Report Post »busterpuddles
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 5:29pmFirst, MANCHURIAN.CANDIDATE as well as others, must not have kids and therefore, speak with no authority.
Secondly, Jordan, like many parents, has a somewhat light list (though, a list nonetheless) of chores for his daughter to do and has a difficult time getting her to do them without complaining and calling him names to her friends because of it. That is because in this culture of ours, the good parents, like Jordan, are trying to discipline thier kids and teach them responsibility while the poorly parented kids are allowed to do whatever they please and are getting away with all sorts of offenses. After seeing this, It‘s only natural that Jordan’s daughter has begun to question authority, the rules she’s expected to follow, and now, the validity of her father’s role as authority figure over her. From the ‘teaching’ kids get from Hollywood through stupid shows like Jersey Beach, or ******** Repo or Pawn Shop Money Men, it’s no wonder kids learn to behave poorly. Next, she’ll be skipping school to have sex with her boyfriend, getting into fights and breaking other laws. Then, when she’s turned in for these violations, the authorities themselves won’t prosecute and follow the laws.
Some pinheads are making this guy out to be a villian. The cops and CPS applauded him for his actions.
Report Post »This culture of defiance started with taking the Bible out of schools, then parents weren’t raised knowing right from wrong, then eventually mayhem. Soon, that’s what it will
1956
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:02amWish this guy could come to town and give lectures at the university on parenting. Might even require a trip to a firing range to learn how to shoot a gun into a laptop (or iPad, or whatever…)
I‘ll bet most of the calls to the sherrif’s and DCS were from all her stupid little friends.
Report Post »DrFrost
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 3:46pmPick your topic… spanking, diet, child rearing, religion…. there is a group somewhere that wants to control what you do and how you do it. And in the last few decades the groups who’ve had enough money have become adept at translating that into political influence in order to force their views down your throat.
I don’t think that was the purpose our founders envisioned the federal government serving. Do you?
One of the most sacred lines that never be crossed without great deliberation is that between parent and child. In my opinion this man has not even approached the point where the government has any business sticking their noses between him and his child. You can disagree with his parenting style. You can disagree with his methods. But if you really want the government to start stepping into situations like these…. you are, IMHO, extremely naive and foolish.
Report Post »Upaces
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 1:06amOooo, you are probably sooo right!!!
Report Post »How dare them interfere with the values he is trying to teach his own child and she “betrays him?@!”
Penn
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:01amI’m totally for eliminating the Department of Education….that is unless we let this guy run it.
Report Post »Highland
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:26amAmen.
Report Post »1unwashed
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:31amThe “dumbing down of America” was an actual strategy of the progressives. Get us down, keep us down. Makes them taller standing on the backs of the dumb masses.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:17am1unwashed looks like the plan is working flawlessly. How else could an affirmitive action president like barack get away with the crap he’s pulling
Report Post »grannyjojo
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:58amNot only did I clap when I saw this man’s video, I busted my rear end to show the vid to as many people (including kids) that I could. I absolutely agree with what this man did. My children are grown but I went through a phase such as this also. For me it was tossing their tv/stereo system out the door onto lawn. They get it when you get their attention with something they really like. Push mom or dad enough and we push back. Sometimes a little tough love works and after all it is part of our job to prepare them for being an adult. God bless all. “Every knee will bow and every tongue confess”
Report Post »HumbleMan
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:47amI agree Granny. I thought for a little bit about whether he should have destroyed the computer … and then concluded, this is only way to be perfectly clear:
1) this PC is not going to be fixed.
2) you can’t just say “I’m sorry” and you get it back.
As for those of you libs who think he humiliated her in public, he did not. He revealed her actions and revealed the truth about her home situation. If that’s humiliating, it‘s not Tommy’s fault.
It’s called accountability. The lesson is: YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS.
Well done, sir.
Report Post »ImaRightWing
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:14pmI really like you..I love reading what you type. :o)
Report Post »ADNIL
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:58amBetter than a spanking, right? I bet she would disagree.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:56am15 is too old for spankings. The father took the correct course of action hope he took her cell phone as well. Send her back to 1980 as far as technology goes. Give her a simple emergency call phone with no ability to contact anyone but her parents or police.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 3:36pm15 is too old for spanking? Why?
A child is never too old to be spanked until they move out of your house.
I’m amazed at kids that are indignant about cleaning up after themselves and pitching in on chores in a house where they are getting free food, free shelter and free utilities.
Kids should get a job as soon as they can and they should be independent as soon as they can.
The part about wiping his *ss is ironic since he and his wife wiped hers every day for 3 years, fed her when she was a baby and are still feeding her.
Good job on the video Dad.
Report Post »Truth Meter
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:56amnext time use a shotgun! then leave it on her desk in her room.
Report Post »Truth Meter
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:00amthe shot up computer i meen. Not the gun you commie liberals!
Report Post »Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:12amYou felt you needed to clarify your point?
Really? :-/
Whitey4West
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:47am“You felt you needed to clarify your point?
Report Post »Really? :-/”
yeah, I mean why would he…it’s not like liberals to take things out of context right??
Really? :-/
Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:39pmIt seemed pretty clear to me what he meant. I just found it amusing that he felt compelled to further clarify such a simply worded statement as if none of you would be able to understand it.
Report Post »jujubeebee
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:55amTaking the laptop away from his daughter in a dramatic way is not a crime, nor should it be.
Report Post »1unwashed
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:33amCell phones, ipods, ipads, MP3′s. Take them all away. Let their brains grow.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:33ampeople need punished badly for calling the police on other people when it results in nothing. not only does it waste tax payers money, it wastes the persons time, ruins peoples perception of you when police are in your driveway, etc… people should be able to SUE those people who are baring false witness. end of story.
Report Post »ari
Posted on February 19, 2012 at 6:38pminteresting thoughts Jubilee – well we love you and our doors are always open to you and Danny when you come back with a sincere heart – I love you and miss you Jubilee Heather Joy your Daddy who is not gay or a psychopath and who really misses you and loves you and never thought of shooting your laptop but maybe it would have helped
Report Post »ThePostman
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:51amSince when do the police and CPS react to second-hand here-say? These people calling in are reporting that they saw a video on youtube and NOTHING ELSE. The police and CPS can just as easily go to youtube and view the video themselves and see there was no reason whatsoever to go and harass this man for doing right by his family. The very notion that they have some say so over ever element of family life is proof that they are the problem.
Report Post »patriotteapress
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:15amThis goes to show how uneducated the public is. Calling the Cops for a man destroying “his” property. Yes, I said his property. She’s a minor and he bought it. That makes it “his” property. There’s nothing illegal about target practicing on your property and shooting your property unless you are discharging a weapon in the city limits. And regarding DSS, if he was a threat to his daughter he wouldn’t be making a video, he’d be taking it out on her.
Report Post »This reminds me of another local story. My county borders Stanley Co. and just next door to us both is Union Co. There is a guy in Union Co. that has had a target range on his property for many, many years. The city (Charlotte) has grown to him. Subdivisions have been built all around him. Now those residents that bought homes within ear shot of his range wants to ban him from using his land. By all accounts he has a safe range with backstops, and there’s never been issues. The last time I checked, if you bought a home next to a gun range “you” bought a home next to a gun range. It‘s not this guy’s fault. Try to tell that to the Northeastern liberals that are moving in to this area. He must be doing something wrong and lock him up cause we don‘t like what he’s doing.
patriotteapress
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:43amAnd if you are thinking the guy with the gun range is a hay seed hick, he happens to be a Doctor.
Report Post »Minonkman
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:51amHe is what I was at his age, it is nice to see I am not alone. Thanks
Report Post »DatabaseSue
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:50amWAY TO GO!! We need more parents like you! Too many kids are left to run and raise themselves. Maybe you should run for president! There are a lot of adult kids that need some discipline out there… ;-)
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:50amThere’s no such thing as an “exploding hollow point” round, so let’s not all get frightened by that SEMI-AUTOMATIC pistol. (Hollow point – yes. It facilitates expansion of the bullet on impact. It will not explode.)
Report Post »Manchurian.Candidate
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:07amUh,.. I think that’s what “expansion” means in the case of a hollow point bullet. It expands outward. Like an explosion.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:09amI’ve reloaded for decades and that one really made me laugh. Just goes to show not only the lack of intelligence of journalists, but their lack of investigative skills, or the lack of desire to ask a sensible question.
Report Post »Also, considering the huge number of busy bodies calling the police and CPS, he is lucky to be where he is in NC, where most of the law enforcement officials are still grounded in reality. Bet some of those lefty loon callers had a duck when no action was taken.
jdare
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:10amI’m so happy you are here to clear up that point. I‘d sure hate people to think I was stupid because I couldn’t tell the difference between a bullet that breaks up into pieces when it strikes and an exploding bullet. Do you by chance know what this story is about?
Report Post »RagingJudge
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:25amYeah, the word “exploding” only made me wish he was using incendiary…
Report Post »NorthWestSnowman
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:25pm@ Manchurian,
You obviously do not know anything about guns or ammunition.
Report Post »You are only making our point by your continued idiotic comments.
Go hug a tree or something.
Pat Houseworth
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 2:50pmNonMan Candidate and Chief George need to go on a date, roll up the windows in their car, and leave it running…..end of their liberal gutless misery.
Report Post »arfarb55
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:47amTough love is the most difficult to have. When we punish our children, we must remember that we also limit our own choices, as we have to rearrange our lives to see that our children obey. Thus, when we ground a child, we also ground ourselves for the same period. Our children will do what we INSPECT, not always what we EXPECT. It is very sad when we let our children raise themselves.
Report Post »big_daddy
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:47amSaw the video and loved it. Way to go dad!
Report Post »pat41
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:47amThis guy should be given a “Parent of the Year” award. Keep up the good work, Dad!
Report Post »PATRIOTMAMA
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:45amThree cheers to you Tommy!!!! I can’t believe anyone would take that video and call the cops saying that he would harm his daughter. The simple fact that he did the video shows his intelligence and patience in the matter. If you‘re going to go off the handle and harm your kid you don’t have the presence of mind to plan this punishment in advance which he talks about in the video and then film the darn thing and put it out there for everyone to see. Man, if you’re so scared of guns that the mere presence of them in a video sends you running to the police I suggest facing your fears and taking a gun class at your local shooting range. YOU need therapy. This dad is being responsible and discipline his kid in a creative and effective way. This girl if she gets a clue and doesn’t have a swarm of liberals all over her to “help her defend her rights” will learn far more from this dad and yes even appreciate him when she herself becomes a parent and adult on her own and understands what he did and WHY. Because he loves her and takes his job in teaching her how to be a mature, responsible, healthy adult seriously. If only more fathers took their jobs as seriously as this gentleman. American fathers, watch and learn!!! We need you to step up and be men of integrity and fathers that lead your families. Three cheers Tommy Three Cheers!!!!
Report Post »Clive
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:43pma hero, to the stupid, for sure.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:49pmHey Clive,
Do you remember what you once boasted about in here?
And do you remember when you ignorantly mocked the physical appearance of a disabled person in here?
Glass house………stones?
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:44amLife in America Under Agenda 21 with whistleblower Charlotte Iserbyt
Report Post »http://www.infowars.com/life-in-america-under-agenda-21-with-whistleblower-charlotte-iserbyt/
Joisey
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:43amI am so happy the bureaucracy respected this man’s rights, and we weren’t treated to a nanny-state show trial!!
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:00amListen to his accent. This didn’t happen in New York. If it had, he’d have charges on him.
Nope! It happened in North Carolina, where some sense remains.
Report Post »beatobama
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:41amTommy Jordan should be Secretary of Education under the next NoBama administration.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:17amMan-O-man, multi dittos on that! Hopefully Joe The Plumber makes it into the Congress this year too. Back to common sense should be their motto.
Report Post »jerryod1627
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:40amFinally someone who tells it like it is!
Report Post »drst4scss
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:40amThats Right!!! Finally someone is standing up and being a man! Tell All those cry baby liberals to go F@&% t h e m s e l v e s!!! Question: have you ever thought about getting involved in the community and/or politics? We need more of us conservatives to start pushing out the leftist, marxist, democrats and traitors from our Gov.t and country!
Report Post »midwesthippie
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:55am…i believe he would prefer to keep the community and politics OUT of his life…lol. outside of city jurisdiction sounds pretty good. why would you ask him to F that up? so he can be a good (R) instead of an independent American
Report Post »kcares
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:36amGood for him, I’m so sick of parents that act like chilldren themselves, and don’t raise their children to respect adults.
Report Post »98Bravo
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:54am@KCares, I totally agree. That is the real issue here. Parents no longer being parents and not having the courage themselves to discipline their children. I had a paper route at age 11, and started working at the local burger king and 14. If I wanted something I saved for it, my parents had no money to buy me everything I wanted or felt I needed. I wasn’t a perfect kid, but knew the limits and respected my elders, something lost on the younger generations, and I‘d have to say I’m probably about the same age as Mr Jordan myself.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:36am98BRAVO, I hear you on that Bud. When I was a kid the paper route was already taken, but I mowed lawns the way my Dad taught me. Because of that I picked up more customers and spent almost every day mowing plenty of lawns. Dad had a row of hedges on two side of our back yard as well the bushes and shrubs in the front of the house. We had the only set of electric hedge trimmers around. The neighbors again liked the way Dad had me do the trimming and I made quite a bit of money doing hedges and decorative bushes. Nothing at all easy about it for a young teen, but those things that I wanted I also had to earn the money to pay for them. Parents also had me put a percentage of my earnings in a savings account. Good lessons all the way around.
Report Post »Danang1972
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:46am63 years old – raised to say “Yes Ma’am, No Ma’am – Yes Sir, No Sir” A little southern respect goes a long way! Retired in South Carolina.
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:35amGo Dad!. Wasn’t me who called-the jerks-I thought you did great. God Bless you sir, kids need to learn to be a bit more humble, or they will turn out like one story, “highfalutin’ heifers”.
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:41pmLast thought-he was angry about the way the girl dissed her Mom, he stood up for his wife and that is the one of the best ways to raise a kid-by respecting their mother, it‘s an impotant dynamic in a girl’s life, or boys for that matter. Stand up for your spouse and be a team!
Report Post »I_am_a_53percenter
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:34amWhat a bunch of panty-waste liberals to call the cops, etc. They are probably the parents of a bunch of OWS kids and never spanked their children (who still clearly need it) or told them no. Yikes!!!
I wish there were more parents like this dad out there!
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:51amI know some Conservative Christians who thought this was wrong. Of course i told them they were stupid cause that’s the way I am. My daddy taught me to call ‘em like I see ’em..All he used was a belt too.
TomFerrari
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:55amMe too!
I was shocked by the almost unanimous “no spanking” stance of the panel on Fox News’
“The Five” recently!!!
Sad, they don’t love their children enough to spank them while THEY as parents still have control over the severity of the punishment. Spare the rod, spoil the child. Today, we have PROOF of this adage.
Glad he pointed to parents and schools, though pop culture via TV and INTERNET also play a major role. Cartoons were good when the bad coyote got his comeuppance, but now, we LET our children watch cartoons of children talking back to their parents, and it is portrayed as “cool.”
Report Post »We fill their minds with garbage, then act like we dont know why they are the way they are.
circleDwagons
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:06ambelt? more impact make them get their own switch
Report Post »i would have loved to see the girl’s interview
Wurlitzer28
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:05amHere in NY State, even if you threaten to spank you can expect the public school’s “resource officer” (JBTs from the NY State Police) to give you a call.
When one of these JBTs called about a threat to spank I told him in no uncertain terms to stop interfering with my parental rights and giving cover to minors for their poor behavior. He agreed with me 100% but said, in his exact words “I an just doing my job” to which I responded, “I have heard that excuse before and it came from Germany I think”.
Report Post »Diego Roswell
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:56amYes it is very troubling that so many viewers thought first to call the government appointed bureaucrats. This is proof positive that the “machine” has reached deep into the social fabric of America. Not only are half of Americans dependent on government for entitlements, they also depend on government to speak for them. Shameful. Shame on you viewing public. Lazy, ignorant, Americans that cannot see the greatness in this man’s message.
Report Post »Clive
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:49pmyeah, i wish every dad would take a family issue, and solve it by shooting their kids stuff and put it on youtube… nothin wrong with that!! yeeeehawwww!!!!
i think you are confusing “hero” for “redneck cowboy idiot”.
Report Post »simpletony
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 1:12pmFox news headliners aren’t Christian for the most part, they’re catholics, like I was until I read the Bible. God himself tells us not to spare the rod. Come on O’reilly, put that pen down you authoritatively wag at us and look it up. Hannity too. Catholicism is NOT where it’s at…it begins and ends at Jesus Christ, not some ‘priest’ (I am one), ‘saint’ (I’m one of those too), bishop, cardinal or pope. It‘s all about Jesus and we’re having all this trouble because we allowed the liberal democrat fools to “X” Him out of our schools and lives. No, it‘s not the schools’ job to teach morals, ethics, honesty and the other virtues. It’s PARENTS! And until more of us begin to act like ones we shall remain on this slippery slope until we finally hit bottom, and we are rocketing there the last 3 years in particular! None of our presidents are or were perfect, but this one is downright evil.
Report Post »sandsman1
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:01pmi dont see anything wrong with anything on that vid — im not sayin every dad should go around shootin his kids stuff – BUT i think what he did got her attencion and thats what was needed im bettin she acts alittle diff from now on — well i would hope so anyway — hey dad i can see you realy care about her and dont want her to grow up expecting the gov to pay her way through life — i say great job and keep up the great work — sometimes it only takes a nudge like that to get them back on the right path
Report Post »Tepeyac
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:34amHere’s a dad who knows all about “tough love”! You hang in there dad, it will be worth it!
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:32amI think I have my first man crush….
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:38amWell, it IS Valentine’s day.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:47amMaybe I should send him a card and a .45 clip…
Report Post »mccracken
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:52amOr peanut butter and chocolate.
Report Post »OhSuzieQ
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:05amlol
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:10amNot that kind of man crush Mc….However i would invite him and his .45 into my bunker. I think I can safely say he is as much a man as I am. Not many men reach that status with me.
Report Post »bastone
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:12pmi doubt if its the first
Report Post »RagingJudge
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 3:32pmComing from a guy who can’t even spell “Bastogne”
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