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Dead on Arrival: AZ Gov Vetoes Controversial Guns on Campus, ‘Birther’ Bills

KSAZ reports out of Phoenix:

Guns on Campus Bill: SB 1467

- Would’ve allowed guns to be carried on public rights of way at public university and community college campuses
- Applies only to rights of way — not inside classrooms
- University presidents opposed the bill

And:

‘Birther’ Bill: HB 2177

- Would’ve required President Barack Obama and other presidential candidates to prove they are U.S. citizens before their names can appear on the state’s ballot
- Arizona would’ve become the first state to require such proof
- 13 other states have considered similar proposals this year. The proposals were defeated in Arkansas, Connecticut, Maine and Montana

Read more at myfoxphoenix.com …

Comments (143)

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  • APEXIdaho
    Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:52am

    I think that all candidates should prove constitutional elegibility to be put on any ballot.

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    • swigs
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 3:46pm

      There’s one true test for US Constitutional eligibility…Jus solis and Jus sangris….
      US “natural born Citizen”= One born of two US citizen parents on US jurisdictional territory.

      Citizens of the world need not apply.

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  • psst
    Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:51am

    Wonder what the MSM (an affiliate of theSoros DNC) found in her Gar-barge (french) ?

    When the going gets tough, the tough talking pols gets going ,going, gone.
    Into the AZ desert.

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  • conrad_carter
    Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:46am

    Bobby Jindal said he’d sign if it came to his desk, we’ll see if they send a bill.
    As for Brewer she has no stones… somebody got to her, she probably found her dead pet in her bed.

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  • The Gooch
    Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:34am

    Sorry, students. You check your rights at the resistrar’s office. Okay, nuts! You know where the easy pickin’s are!
    Nice to see the faith the intellectuals have in humanity in general and their students specifically. The guy with the badge who represents the state can be trusted, but not the private citizen who bothers to go thru the training and legalities of concealed carry? Smug bastards…. Quit! I hear a lot of folks are looking for jobs.
    Most legal gun owners I know are responsible and don‘t reach for a weapon when they get ambushed by life’s trials and tribulations. The few people I’ve met who possessed guns and had no business with them other than to do harm to themselves or others where thugs who possessed a firearm illegaly and the mentally ill. Schools can’t screen for criminal backgrounds and civil commitments? “Aw, geesh! That takes effort -n- stuff! Zero tolerance is so much easier and mindless! Besides… when the nuts come a shootin’, I got good odds he’ll go after the kids and not me.”
    Lazy, athoritarian cowards. Every day should begin with a search of their possessions and persons… since you apparently lose your rights once you step onto campus. “What’s this, Professor Fussybottom? A ham sandwich with mayo and ‘cringe’ American cheese?!? This will not be tolerated! This meal is not approved by the Busy Body Police of Wottsa Matta U.!!!”

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  • EL ZORRO
    Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:26am

    [quote]SOONER12
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:08pm
    As much as I liked the idea of requiring candidates to provide their birth certificates. I think it’s time to put this to rest and beat him by other means. There’s plenty of other amunition like his poor record. We can’t continue to let liberals to run the show. So, let’s get to work![/quote]
    The use of REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY,by the socialist, to dissarm they opponents, is too old to convince any one,(don’t talk about the birth certificate) when they can’t win by argument, ridicule their opponent.

    EL ZORRO

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  • NuffSaid
    Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:17am

    Jan: Do you have a clue what it is you are trying to do? You’re a folk hero one day and a bobble head the next.

    Split the state. You take the best shopping and left Sheriff Joe have the rest.

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  • PATTY HENRY
    Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:16am

    THIS IS WHY PALIN is the ONLY one who can carry our water for us !! SHE does NOT back away from a fight. She smartly side-stepped the all -out attack on her and her state with the 40 + frivolous law suits geared to bury her…instead she rose like the PHOENIX and fried them…and will again…. we don’t need any half measures. I’m sure Gov. Brewer is exhausted and maybe as former Atty General of State of Az she knew parts of the bill couldn’t pass court tests…but a REAL LEADER would have said very simply that no one gets on the ballot in any capacity in AZ unless they can prove who they are and meet all Constitutional and STATE requirements. That would have covered it. WE DO NOT NEED PEOPLE WHO TALK ABOUT IT AND DO NOTHING..but who MAKE THEIR TALK THE REALITY. GAME ON! SARAH in 2012.

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    • destinykiera
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 5:17am

      Well said, Patty, I am so with you.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:00pm

      Sarah will never run, she knows she would never pass the scrutiny that would fall on her if she did. She’s a lier and a crook, her husband is a womanizer. There are far too many skeletons in that woman’s closet.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 4:28pm

      What if President also turns out to be a hard job where you‘re constantly opposed by people who don’t like you or your policies? Will she just “smartly side-step” all her problems again?

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  • EL ZORRO
    Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:05am

    Ms Brewer has lost all credibility, I can’t stand COWARDS, no more donations to her campaing.
    EL ZORRO

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:04am

    both bills were poorly written, we understand that, but still a simple bill calling for each AMERICAN presidential candidate to provide his long form birth cert in its entirety is NOT unreasonable. esp since obama the pos fraud has completely destroyed the fabric and integrity of America.

    our opinion mirrors his odd statemenst in his book.. he didn’t know where his parents marriage or divorce records= if any= are. we think obama is a bigger natural born bastard that anyone ever thought.

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    • EL ZORRO
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:12am

      Maybe Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama real father is Frank Marshal Davies, the pedofile COMUNIST; a DNA test will be necessary to stablish his real identity.
      EL ZORRO

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 4:26pm

      Except of course that Arizona doesn’t even issue long form birth certificates. Their birth certificates look a lot like the one Obama has already showed us. That’s why they put in that stuff about baptismal and circumcision certificates, but that would still mean that someone from Arizona who had never been baptized or circumcised could never run for President, and that is obviously unconstitutional.

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  • carnifex
    Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:03am

    We got a barbershop here where you can get your ccp and a trim at the same time. they used to raffle off sks’s once a month.

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  • TJexcite
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:53pm

    The who Birther thing is just stupid. Are we willing to lose the greatest country in the world because of a 49 year old piece of paper. The LSM would call and do call the whole right crazy because of this and this bill does not help stop the destruction of the county and/or world.

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  • boodrow
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:39pm

    Sounds like someone just went to the highest bidder….. That billion dollar DNC war chest starting to kick in.

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  • EthanSD
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:38pm

    I’m not an AZ resident, but that’s BS. Those same “unstable kids” could walk around practically anywhere else in Arizona with a gun, but not a college campus. Those professors (remind you most are super liberal anyways) are so bleeping full of themselves. As a college student I wish I could carry a gun on campus, for my own safety and that of others. I’m a pretty good shot and I will be applying to the PD in the next few years. Moreover, consider how many rotc students and current/former soldiers on the recent GI bill would be able to protect themselves and others. If Ms. Brewer has a problem with the language of the bill, then listen up AZ legislators; rewrite the bill and try again.

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  • BonnieBlueFlag
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:35pm

    What a filthy coward. Brewer, it is obvious you were threatened by the Mugabe of the Americas (Obama) and you have caved. If you believe people are generally honest, this legislation is pure redundancy- no reason to whip out such a strong card as the veto.

    Brewer you are caving coward practicing the art of CYA. I have lost all respect for you, coward.

    p.s. Your eye make-up and hair look like crap you hideous witch.

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  • riseandshine
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:16pm

    I’m not a resident of Arizona

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  • BetterDays
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:14pm

    Easy come, easy go.
    “As for her decision to veto this bill, Gov. Brewer said in part: “I never imagined being presented with a bill that could require candidates for President of the greatest and most powerful nation on earth to submit their ‘early baptismal or circumcision certificates’… this is a bridge too far. This measure creates significant new problems while failing to do anything constructive for Ariz”
    Jan, first you pull a political game on Obama over illegal immigration which is a federal responsibility. And now you back off a bill that is a States responsibility because it is NOT a federal responsibility.

    WTF Brewer? What planet are you from Janet? If not you then who Janet, will say that our constitution means what it says and says what it means?
    Where are our leaders? They sell out to the globalists left and right, are their any Americans left?
    No matter at all, I serve GOD first anyhow, and all this fine nonsense seems to fit perfectly with biblical prophecies . Just wanted more to come home, that and peace for my children.

    “and she shall seek to change times and laws.”
    “my children perish for lack of knowledge ”
    “I shall press on to the prize of my highest calling in GOD through the blood of Christ Jesus ”
    “you are the head and not the tail, above only and not below”
    “you are joint heirs in the kingdom of GOD, through Christ Jesus”

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:39pm

      Gov. Brewer said in part: “I never imagined being presented with a bill that could require candidates for President of the greatest and most powerful nation on earth to submit their ‘early baptismal or circumcision certificates’…
      —————
      So Gov, how does it feel to have a thug as POTUS ? A thug whose life and achievements are sourced from a fictional novel written by a terrorist ?

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    • carnifex
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:01am

      anyone who relies on a politician builds his house upon sand. Never,never,never trust a politician. If its your own child that is the politician, if they shake your hand, count your fingers. Nope, no never ever ever If you took 2/3 the politicians in the world and put them at the bottom of the ocean, in the deepest trench, you have made a good start. ( started to say half the politicos, then came to my senses)

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    • Andy
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:32am

      I can’t beleive people that people think Obama should not be required to produce what we have to produce to get a drivers lisence!!

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    • Killa From Wasilla
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:40am

      Better Days

      You live such a miserable life. How’s that Christian life working out for you ??

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    • destinykiera
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 5:07am

      Betterdays, I am becoming a great fan of your postings. You are spot on and ask the right questions. I, too am very disappointed with Jan’s line of thinking and I applaud you in saying precisely what I would have posted. I would add, though, even the dog and pony shows get a bit more confusing when you discover them and I really believe that this whole Jan Brewer thing was just that or somewhat of a facsimile. It makes no sense. I would stay tough, with all issues at this point if I were her….just what point is she trying to make? Bless you all…through the love of God and Jesus Christ (I am not ordained….but it makes me feel good to say it). Hugz!

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 11:32am

      @Destinykeira
      Thank you for your kind words, but if I say something true, well spoken, just, of good report, honest, righteous, faithful, or virtuous then the Glory is GODs alone. For I am but a man, fallen and still in need of my savior Christ Jesus. Whereas I do have a very wonderful personal relationship with my Lord, it is nothing unique, for it is GODs desire that we all would know him Face to face, and this truth is written upon our searching hearts and upon the Word of God.

      @KillaFromWazilla
      Good morning POTUS, it may be your desire to see me miserable but failure seems to follow in your wake. Not surprising, for you have not chosen to have an individual relationship with GOD, but seek salvation in collectivization which GOD shall not acknowledge for it is a doctrine of man and not of GOD. I occurs to me that your definition of miserable is starkly different than mine, coming through two divergent ideologies. What you see as miserable, I count too the glory of GOD the opportunity to suffer oppression and persecution for Him, in other words what you see as sad makes me glad and visa versa. through the lens darkly, but not through a lens of worldliness which is blind to truth.
      The end justifies the means.

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  • Ironeagle
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:07pm

    The Lord is God. Our country is going the way of all the earth and God’s plan for mankind–inspite of the efforts of the remnant of true patriots, our efforts at preserving the nation are tantamount to ******* up a rope. Nevertheless, we shall go down fighting for what is right–because we are a people of character. All is in God’s hands and all on His side wins in the end. Huah.

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  • SavingtheRepublic.com
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:04pm

    What the the……. Brewer doesnt get along with DC why would should veto the birther bill?! (fyi vid not working for me)

    I dont get this at all!?!?!?!?!

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    • nothingbuthetruth
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:59pm

      I am confused about this too. Why would she not want anyone to be able to protect themselves on campus?

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    • J_Ind_Boston
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:24am

      If you read the bill, you would not want it to pass. It is mislabeled as the birther bill, what it would do is make Barry legal. Read the bill.

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    • Itchee Dryback
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:25am

      SavingtheRepublic.com
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:04pm
      _______________________________________________
      She’s right.
      I don’t know what the motivation of the people who worded the bill are, but the problems with it are too obvious imo.
      What would the msm do with a pudding filled prize like this??
      Either show your bc…or proof of baptism or circumcision????…reeeally?
      Call me paranoid, but this smacks of an under the radar organized smear tactic. I mean come on!! That bill would basically be spun as saying prove you’re a Christian or a Jew. All leading up to an election. It was a little too “win-win” for the libs…pass it and be smeared by the msm..veto it and be smeared by the right.

      Maybe it was just badly thought out..but daaamn!

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  • patriot4evah
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:02pm

    Just to be clear.. When there is a republican presidential candidate that requires “bold questions” from the left, this matter will be settled in two shacks of a lambs tale. The media, the states, the congress, and of course the supreme court will get to the bottom of it in short order. The media does not have to call the left ‘crazy’ to bring up this kind of thing, they already are crazy. The country just follows in lock step. It’s sort of like the current gasoline prices…. no story here, move along.

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  • BannedByHuffpo
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:02pm

    OK, so no proof of Natural Born citizenship. We’ll just sweep that damned old Constitution under the rug. Just think, with over TWENTY MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS now residing in the United States, any one of their “jackpot babies” could certainly aspire to be president of the United States too.

    Well now, how about proving that the Connecticut issued Social Security Number BHO is using isn’t fraudulent?

    And BTW, why was that picture of you and your alleged “grandparents” sitting on an outdoor bench supposedly while you were at Columbia (yeah BHO, the one released by your campaign) why were you PHOTOSHOPPED into the picture?

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  • luvamerica
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 10:57pm

    Of course . . . Very disappointing.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 2:04am

      @walkwithme1966:
      ‘What is your source for Obama’s so called Connecticut issued Social Security Number? I have never read that anywhere – just curious!!’
      ____________________–
      Hey walkwithme…scroll up and read my earlier posting…

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    • Marylou7
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 5:57am

      AZDEBI
      I get what you mean. Write a proper law. This is what happens when people can’t read it for themselves. All bills presented should be made accessible long enough before the vote that everyone can fully understand it. Of course some are too lazy to do their jobs.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 9:24am

      @Marylou7:
      AZDEBI
      I get what you mean. Write a proper law. This is what happens when people can’t read it for themselves. All bills presented should be made accessible long enough before the vote that everyone can fully understand it. Of course some are too lazy to do their jobs.”
      __________________
      You know Marylou…people are so riled up over the obvious corruption that is going on…but we’ve got to take a minute and LISTEN to what people are actually saying…Do I think Gov Brewer shot this down for political gain? Absolutely not…there HAS to be a reason…we need to take the time to find out why…I personally believe that it was not written correctly…My God, do you realize the damage that could be done, kind of in reverse of the actual intention of the bill…if she had signed it, candidates would have been able to show just about any kind of document instead of their original birth certificate…

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  • Exrepublisheep
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 10:55pm

    Sobriety.

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  • tower7femacamp
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 10:54pm

    soon you will not be allowed to own a gun.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:39pm

      It’s not the guns that will be outlawed, it’s bullets. They are going after lead bullets, which will make ammo more expensive, they also want an additive to gunpowder which will cause bullets to have a “Shelf Life”, the gunpowder will break down, which of course will keep peole from hoarding. Then they will make it illegal to buy ammo without a license or if you have any kind of record. Then, you can have as many guns as you want, you just won’t be able to get insurance or health coverage or ammo. But hey, a .44 can still crack your head open.

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    • carnifex
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:55pm

      @darmok and jalad at tenagra
      I believe you are correct in you prognosticating. That’s why I do NOT have concealed carry permit. Why make it easy for em. I also do not own several guns buried in locations unknown to me. I also do not have reloading equipment, nor do i have several muzzle loaders for when things really get tough. I’m just waiting for em to ban my “assault” knives.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 11:15am

      Soon your paranoia will reach its limit, glad I don’t live near you.

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    • JJCon
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 2:04pm

      Darmak, I really shouldn’t be fueling this, but always remember… the US/Mexican boarder runs two ways.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 7:06pm

      So does the Canadian/US border, better hunting and fishing.

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  • enemy of the statist
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 10:54pm

    It’s all dictated from the top. States no longer have rights. The Federal Gov’t has too much power and can manipulate at will. Tea Partiers, it may be too late :(

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    • Marylou7
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:03pm

      It’s never too late as long as there is a God in Heaven AND THERE IS.

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:18pm

      “If God be for us, who then can be against us.“ and ” we are not born in a spirit of fear, but of sound mind and courage.“ as well as ” I can do all things through Christ Jesus that strengthens me.”

      God knows the end from the begining, regardless how this plays out GODs own will be going home in the end.

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    • destinykiera
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 4:55am

      Betterdays, you never stop captivating me with your faith and courage nor your words, not to mention, such optimism that should be within all of hearts during these troubling times. I commend you. God Bless you and all!

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    • AzCowboy
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 6:25am

      It’s not to late. I have a son in the army. Our army/military will not fire on citizens. The generals might order it, our boys(and girls) won’t do it. I myself could see it happening once. Then alot of internal military issues would arise if ya know what I mean..

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    • NYSTREETKID
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 7:49am

      you my friend are just plan right. The next part is what do we do now? DIG HOLES and crawl in. We need to start doing something. I think after 35 years of watching it crash.I think we all got the point. I want to hear something new to “do” about it. voting,no. tried it. write and calling your reps.No done it. March with glen. NO got the tee shirt. what is the 500 lb ape in the room. do we play with that monkey or crawl into our hole. I want to know from somebody what do we do next?

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 11:14am

      AZCOWBOY
      Ever hear of Kent State?

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  • tower7femacamp
    Posted on April 18, 2011 at 10:53pm

    It doesn’t matter Obama has a real good Fake Birth certificate
    which will never really be challenged when he whips it out
    on his WWF buddy Donald Trump.

    tower7femacamp  
    • TruthTalker
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 10:55pm

      The only reason he is fighting showing it is not because he wasnt born in Hawaii, It shows his religion.

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    • afishfarted
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:03pm

      yeah, but this reaises some questions in my mind. First, it is a constitutional requirement. So the second question is what was she offered by the white house? A “promise” to secure the border?

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:04pm

      - Would’ve required President Barack Obama and other presidential candidates to prove they are U.S. citizens before their names can appear on the state’s ballot
      —————————
      and that would be a terrible inconvenience for who exactly ? and why ?

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    • sooner12
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:08pm

      As much as I liked the idea of requiring candidates to provide their birth certificates. I think it’s time to put this to rest and beat him by other means. There’s plenty of other amunition like his poor record. We can’t continue to let liberals to run the show. So, let’s get to work!

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:10pm

      If they are going to outlaw something, how about wind chimes. That has to be the most annoying thing ever invented. You just can’t enjoy a nice spring evening without “clang clang clang”

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:13pm

      @ afishfarted
      I don‘t think she is clever enough to have done some give and take negotiations with Obama’s hoodlums . Looks like a good old fashioned cave-in . Maybe the NYT and kneepads media will praise her for that . That will be a real crowning achievement for AZ . Thanks for hammering the first nail in our country’s coffin Ms Brewer

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:19pm

      Next up , every state will be nudged to pass legislations so that non-citizens can run for POTUS.
      To hell with amending that pesky Constitution, let the 57 states do it at their level

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:27pm

      lol @ WWF

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    • FansLogonDOTcom
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:29pm

      The Gov. is being way too “PC” on this one. This requirement is already in the U.S. Constitution. Proving your citizenship shouldn‘t be a problem if you’re a citizen and are being honest with the voters. Only someone with something to hide would have a problem with this.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:30pm

      Just show all records: BIRTH, SCHOOL AND PASS PORTS Uesd… Problem solved.

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    • Cymry
      Posted on April 18, 2011 at 11:38pm

      That’s ok, when they passed the bill in the legislature (70+%) they knew they had more than enough votes to override a veto (67% required).

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:12am

      “‘Birther’ Bill: HB 2177

      “- Would’ve required President Barack Obama and other presidential candidates to prove they are U.S. citizens before their names can appear on the state’s ballot”

      This is already a Constitutional requirement; and since it’s in the federal jurisdiction, the states can merely require, DEMAND, INSIST that candidates adhere to the Constitutional requirement to prove they are US citizens.

      US Constitution, Article 2, Section 1

      “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

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    • Tea Party Conservatism
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:34am

      . ,,,
      . (0 0)
      . —ooO-(_)-Ooo—

      Constitution? Constitution? We don‘t need no stinkin’ Constitution!

      VOTE !!!

      Why Obama is ineligible – regardless of his birthplace
      By Leo C. Donofrio, Esq.
      http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134881

      P.S. The Prez is required to be a natural born citizen, not just a citizen like members of Congress, so the bill was fatally flawed from the git go anyway.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:38am

      You need to visit this post from back in mid-January…read it and become enlightened!

      White House insider warns of dire consequences from eligibility issue
      http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/white-house-insider-warns-of-dire-consequences-from-eligibility-issue

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:40am

      “According to the typical liberal media narrative, those of us who have questioned President Obama’s life documents are kooks. Nuts. Creeps. “Birthers.” When Donald Trump raises issues with the birth certificate, members of the left, right, and center assume that he‘s doing so for political reasons and that there’s no real story. They use the Old Jedi Mind Trick: “nothing to see here … move along.”
      There’s only one problem. There’s something to see here.

      First, the registration number on Obama’s “Certification of Live Birth” (which, as Trump recently explained to an incredulous Meredith Vieira, is not a long form birth certificate) is out of sequence to other birth certificates issued on the very next day in Hawaii to a pair of twins named Nordyke (certifications of live birth and birth certificates carry the same registration number).

      Second, according to a private investigator, Susan Daniels, whose work was validated by at least two other investigators I’m aware of, the Social Security number that Obama used for approximately 25 years was issued with a Connecticut-based number, though neither Obama nor anyone in his family lived in that state at any point during their lifetimes. Bill O’Reilly claimed on his April 14, 2011, show that Obama’s father, Barack Obama Sr., lived in Connecticut “for several years”, but when I called O’Reilly for verification of his source(s), I was put into a voicemail and received no return call. As of this writing, it appears that O‘Reilly’s Mailbag Segment on Obama’s Social Security number has been scrubbed by Fox News from the podcast of the show, along with some viewer mail on the subject. “

      http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/trump_needs_to_shift_to_second.html

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    • restorehope
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 12:40am

      Well, she just lost some credibility with Americans all across the country. What did she have to gain by vetoing the bill to prove citizenship? Makes no sense at all. Brewer wants people to prove their citizenship if they live and work in AZ, but it’s not necessary if you want to be president? Something smells really fishy here.

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    • Andy
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 1:00am

      If you care about requirement for being President go to the following address you can see what a true Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth looks like and it sure don’t look like what the Obama people have tried to show us. What you will see is the Certificate of a lady that was born in the hospital Obama claimes he was born in the day after he was born. She ordered it and it cost her $10 to get it why would Obama spend hundreds of thousands to cover his up?
      http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=286353http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.htmlhttp://westernfrontamerica.com/2010/04/07/obama-hates-america-constitution/

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 1:30am

      AzDebi
      You need to visit this post from back in mid-January…read it and become enlightened!
      White House insider warns of dire consequences from eligibility issue
      http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/white-house-insider-warns-of-dire-consequences-from-eligibility-issue
      ——————
      Wow ! Just wow !
      Now this explains why Beck and BOR have been proactively lashing out and excoriating “ birthers” without any provocation.
      There was a report I saw ( probably WND .com) that BOR went so far as to flat out lie on air about Obama’s CT SS# and then FOX conveniently removed it from the podcast. I was also amazed @ how the Red Eye gang flung filth , again for no real reason, singing like a chorus and sounding nuttier than the people they were calling nuts.
      I pray for the security of the families of these people. When it comes to harming innocent people, muslims have no limits , neither do marxists.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 1:59am

      Darn it Fellow Blazers…I KNOW why she vetoed this and now I can’t remember the details…I will search my braincells and get back with you…BUT…I do know that the bill “as written” made it EASY for OTHER forms of ID (Certificates of Baptism, Circumcision Documents) to be used as substitutes instead of only original birth certificates…I don’t know who the idiots were that designed the bill…but, evidently THEY GOT THE WORDING WRONG…that’s part of the reason it was not worth the paper it was written on…I can’t answer for the Governor…but I hope this is part of her reasoning…it wasn’t going to accomplished what was intended in the first place…..grrrrrrrr….when the h*ll are we ever going to get this crap right, when America? This is way past being stupid…it almost seems intentional!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • BSdetector
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 7:10am

      Idk about you guys, but I just lost any respect I had for her. Turns out she IS just another politician after all.

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    • NYSTREETKID
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 7:40am

      wait a second, We going to give this GOP Gov the right of way. the People and the state house vote for these laws to help make Az safer and No one call her out. She pull the same two step that the dems pull. (if i pass this,will they call me a hate monger.). Again, Do we start to hold them to what they do or dont do. I think it is going to be business as always. screw the people.let them eat cake.Well? again we write our little hearts out on this and every other blog. So? WHAT are WE going to DO about IT?

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    • whoopi_goldberg
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:00am

      NO no no the reason my man doesn‘t want to show his BC is it says he’s Caucasian and we all can see he’s black, sort of. I mean he’s not as black as me, he’s more light tan.

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    • Dandylyon
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:25am

      Now we are getting to see just how deep the rabbit hole goes.

      You have to have wondered why the people of America are basiclly being told to “shove it” when we want to know the back ground of our president………………………..or maybe you haven’t.

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:31am

      I’ve heard by reliable sources that a couple men in black suits showed up at Gov. Brewers door and gave her an offer she couldn’t refuse to veto that bill.

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 10:34am

      Obongo is hiding something and I’m sick and tired of practically the entire government behind this coverup!

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    • Tall-N-TN
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 11:04am

      How is it that the only ones entrusted to make an objective, rational decision in this political arena are Democrats? Republicans disqualify themselves on the basis of a fear that they will be called partisan or racist. They go to battle with an arm tied behind their back after shooting themselves in the foot.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 11:10am

      @TRUTHTALKER
      My birth certificate doesn’t show religion, how could it when I was just born? That doesn’t even make sense dude.

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    • Susan Harkins
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 11:45am

      ….As for her decision to veto this bill, Gov. Brewer said in part: “I never imagined being presented with a bill that could require candidates for President of the greatest and most powerful nation on earth to submit their ‘early baptismal or circumcision certificates’… this is a bridge too far. This measure creates significant new problems while failing to do anything constructive for Arizona.”

      Hawaii officials have certified Obama was born in that state, but so-called ‘birthers’ have demanded more proof.

      “I feel uncomfortable as a prior secretary of state that one person would be the gatekeeper for all elected officials, not only fot the president but all legislatures in cities and counties. And I believe the bill doesn’t serve Arizona well.”

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    • Koolaiders
      Posted on April 19, 2011 at 3:31pm

      The far right wing Tea Party kooks writing fiction on this subject just cant stomach the fact that Obama WILL win in 2012. Actually, its just a racist diatribe because a black man occupies the oval office.

      Tea Party = Racists. Admit it: this subject arose purely because he’s black, nothing more.

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    • gambit5555
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:37am

      @Koolaiders,
      OKay, you got me. I’ll admit it. Everyone, Listen Up!!!

      Koolaiders= Moron.

      Thank you very much

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    • jzs
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:48pm

      The Warden is trying take back control of the asylum. Some, some unknown group of people, is telling Republicans, even Michelle Bachman, that the birther issue is a loser position for 2012.

      As a Democrat, that makes me sad. But there is definitely someone or someones working in the background who is a heck a lot smarter than you guys.

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