‘Death to Christians’: Vandals Attack Jerusalem Monastery & School With Hate-Fueled Graffiti
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JERUSALEM (The Blaze/AP) — Vandals attacked a monastery in Jerusalem and a prominent school with a mixed Jewish-Arab student body on Tuesday, and police said they suspected Jewish extremists were behind the violence.
“Death to Christians” and other Hebrew-language graffiti was scrawled on the Greek Orthodox monastery in Jerusalem (tradition says that the tree used to make Jesus’s cross once stood at this location), while “Death to Arabs” was sprayed across a wall outside the bilingual “Hand in Hand” school in another part of the city. Haaretz has more:
Jerusalem police are investigating both incidents, and still unsure whether the two events are connected.
The bilingual school is a symbol of coexistence in Jerusalem, in which half the students are Jews and half are Arab who study together in both languages.
'Death to Arabs' and 'Kahane was right' were painted on a school's wall (Image Credit: Haaretz)
Israeli police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said that “price tag” was also painted at the monastery – a reference to a practice of Jewish extremists who lash out against the Israeli government for actions against settlers.
Reuters further explains “price tag”:
The term refers to retribution the settlers say they will exact for any attempt by the Israeli government to curb settlement in the West Bank, an area Palestinians seek as part of a future state. “Price Tag” attacks have targeted mosques, Palestinian homes and Israeli military installations in the occupied West Bank but vandalism of Christian holy sites in Jerusalem is extremely rare.
Israel’s Army Radio reported that “Maccabees of Migron” was painted on the monastery, too. Maccabees were ancient Jewish heroes, and Migron is an unauthorized settlement facing a court-ordered evacuation next month.
In the West Bank, Palestinians said “Mohammed is a pig” and other hateful slogans were also found spray-painted near a gas station of an Arab village. Rosenfeld had no information about that incident.
'Price tag' and 'Greeks out' were spray-painted on a car outside the monastery (Image Credit: Haaretz)
Hard-line settlers believe Israel has a God-given right to the West Bank and east Jerusalem, territories Israel captured in 1967, and reject Palestinian claims to those lands.
Extremists, believed to be young Jewish settlers, have carried out dozens of attacks on Palestinians over the past two years, chopping down olive trees, vandalizing agricultural land and setting fire to mosques. Few arrests have been made.
The Abraham Fund Initiatives, which operates educational coexistence projects between Jewish and Arab citizens, condemned the graffiti at the Jerusalem school, one of the few places in the city where Jews and Arabs work and study together.
“The political violence against Arab citizens, dubbed ‘price tag,’ is aimed this time toward education for shared living between Arabs and Jews in Israel,” it said. “This is an attack on a place that represents the wish of Arabs and Jews to build together a better future for their children.”
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Ded-Bred
Posted on February 22, 2012 at 7:43pmMOHAMMAD claims Jesus Messiah. **Muslims believe the Koran was written by God and is God’s message to all people. The Koran tells how Allah anointed Jesus, through a virgin birth to be the Messiah – Savior of the world, nearly five hundred and fifty years before Muhammad was born. Koran is all Muhammad’s revelations, recorded in the Koran/Qur’an teach that:
Report Post »1. Jesus was sent by Allah, who supported him with the Holy Spirit to tell the world Allah’s will (2: 87; 5: 110-117*).
2. Allah gave to the world Jesus, exalted him above all others, and supported him with the Holy Spirit as proof of his sovereignty (2: 253*). *3*. Allah caused the miracle birth of John the Baptist to the aged Zechariah so John could be the messenger to announce Jesus as the Messiah (3: 33-41*).
4. Allah appointed Mary to be the virgin mother of Jesus, the Messiah (3: 42-45; 19: 12-22; 21: 90*).
5. Jesus would be righteous [sinless] all his life (3: 46; 6: 86; 19: 19*). * {6}.^ Jesus would be raised from the dead (19: 33,34*). ‘The Prophet said, ”’By Allah, though I am the Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me”’ (Hadith vol. 5, no. 266).
Islam’s prophet, Muhammad, believed Jesus was the Messiah, Allah’s anointed messenger. Allah’s people (Muslims) are told to listen to Allah’s messengers (Koran, 4.171; 5. 111*).. ALLAH TOOK JESUS TO HEAVEN WHERE HE AWAITS UNTIL THE DAY OF JUDGMENT WHEN HE WILL RETURN TO EARTH (3,55)
Witness to them with the Kor
whobkhazar
Posted on February 22, 2012 at 7:00pmBeck mentioned this on his radio show but he left out the part about the zionists doing it. He left his audience with the impression that Muslims did it since it was part of his anti-Christian scam. Beck is just a huckster that has found religion can be quite lucrative. He is one that is described in 2 Peter 2:1-3. If people honestly belive what Beck is spouting then they are fools and ought to wrap themselves in tin foil. Yes I said tin foil since all the folks in the “know” realize aluminum foil does not work. Look up dispensationalist, followed by Scofield and Untermeyer. Believe int he “rapture” and you follow heresy. T. Fraizer’s “Second Look at the Second Coming” explains the errors in the thinking and gives the correct theology. For your pocketbook‘s and your soul’s sake read it.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 12:35pmAhaha… check this out. Reform Judaism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_Judaism_%28North_America%29
Report Post »EwwyLee
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 9:33amGuys, the letters are clearly written by someone who does not write Hebrew on a daily basis. They are too childlike and clumsy, even for a spray can. I agree wholeheartedly with those saying that it was made by muslims, who are trying to stir the tensions and divide Jews and Christians. It is their known practice, they’d done it before and they will do it again. Do not buy this.
Report Post »bankerpapaw
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:16pmThe Jews didn’t kill Jesus. My sins killed Him. He took our sins to the grave with Him. Easter
Report Post »morning He got up and walked out of the tomb, leaving those sins to rot in the grave. Accept Him
before it is too late.
Robert999
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 2:34pmIt was the fault of the school for having Arab students.
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 2:40pmdude, tell me you’re not serious….
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:38pmSo who wrote Allah was a pig?
Was it a muslim? Would they do that to inflame islam against Israel? Are we to believe that with millions of muslims surrounding Israel and hoping for the massacre of all jews that there is a group of young Jewish men who are taking on their own govt and the palestinians at the same time?
This doesnt make sense and when it doesnt make sense it is a staged event- just my opinion.
Report Post »philipzhao
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 4:06amRead the article-“ They Must Go ” written two decades ago by the late Rabbi Meir Kahane !!
Report Post »CJohnWest
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 2:18pmToo many Hatecrimes (one is too many by the way). How can any reasonable aurgments or conversations occur about the actual issues when thugs and brawlers roam around as the status quo. Also, the propagandist and aggitators are laughing all the way to the bank.
Report Post »OFFTHEMENU.US
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:02pmThe article overlooks the racist extremism found rampant in talmudism which is de facto zionism, and the name of a rat turd kahane who was one of the most egregious racist turds ever found on earth which, shouldn’t be a big surprise as the jews have always been and continue to be the greatest source of racism and race-baiting hate-mongers the world has ever had the displeasure of having in the planetary species-(see non-human reptiles/vermin), and allowing to live. We’ll have to correct some of these mistakes for the last time, eh? to the racist rat-headed vermin-(israthole), remember, – “ARBEIT MACHT FREI”!! Just kidding, work won’t set you free this time anymore than it did last time, but then neither does “change”, eh?
Report Post »tzion
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:23pmHave you even read the Talmud by any chance?
Report Post »Nick Jammer
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:33pmTZION: The Talmud is a bunch of nonsense conjured up by rabbis in Babylon.
Report Post »It is not the Law or the bible.
It is conjecture and fairy tales and its followers are deceived dupes.
tzion
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:39pmReally Nick, Have you ever read it?
Report Post »The Talmud is a collection of laws and discussions about laws. They even recorded debates over the laws. Also, the Mishna, which is included in the Talmud along with the Gemara, was written in Judea after the destruction of the Temple.
VicksVaporub
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:16pmI haven’t met the person yet who whines about how demonic the Talmud is that has actually read one word of it.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 8:59amThere’s more than one Talmud. The Babylonian Talmud was written by the tribal elders during their captivity in Babylon. It it a kabbalistic text, and has nothing to do with the other Talmud or the Mishna. The Babylonian Talmud proclaims that Christ is in Hell, boiling in a cauldron of his own excrement. Blasphemous, I know, but the Babylonian captive elders were Baal(Satan) worshipers.
Report Post »tzion
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 10:30amUm, I‘d like to see where you got that info because it’s completely false. Not only is the Babylonian Talmud connected to the Mishna, the entire mishna is included in the Talmud. Also, that version is the one that is studied by most people while the Jerusalem Talmud is not studied as often. Also, how were the leaders captives? Who was holding them captive?
Report Post »tzion
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 10:33amAlso, the Talmud isn’t Kabbalistic, it’s a collection of laws and discussions. Maybe you‘re thinking of the Tanya or some other text but I’ve personally read portions of the Talmud and there’s nothing mystical about it.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:09amHere you go. http://www.contendingfortruth.com/?s=babylonian+talmud
Report Post »Pick a teaching, they are all chock full of references and quotes.
KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:11am“The Blasphemous Talmud and the Hebrew Roots Movement/Messianic Jews/Christian Zionists
9/9/2007
http://www.despatch.cth.com.au/Despatch/Jews05.htm
The blasphemous Talmud is declared by the religious Jews to be from God, totally binding and authoritative. Many supposed Christians who call themselves Messianic Jews, Hebrew Roots, Christian Zionists incorporate the Talmud into their religious practices. In fact I recently received an email from a Messianic Jew inviting me to a “Mikvah” for High Holidays which is described as a ritual cleansing/immersion in preparation for the Jewish High Holidays. She went onto to say: “The Talmud has a number of required criteria that a mikvah must adhere to in order to be kosher.” Most Jewish & Messianic Rabbi’s consider the Talmud higher in authority than the Old Testament! There are two main Talmud’s, the Palestine Talmud and the second, the Babylonian Talmud. We will be looking at many direct quotes from the Talmud including: ‘Christians are allied with Hell, and Christianity is worse than incest’. (Abodah Zarah 17a, p.85). ‘WHEN MESSIAH COMES HE WILL DESTROY THE CHRISTIANS’. (Sanhedrin 99a,p.668). ‘Those who read the Gospels are doomed to Hell’. (Sanhedrin 90a, 100b, pp.601-602, 680). ‘It is permitted to have sexual intercourse with a girl three years old and one day’ (Sanhedrin 55b,p.376). We will also be doing a Bible study to totally debunk the notion that a Christian has to adhere to Jewish traditio
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:13amCon’t:
“We will also be doing a Bible study to totally debunk the notion that a Christian has to adhere to Jewish traditions to be saved and/or to be right with the Lord Jesus Christ. Titus 1:14: ‘Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.’”
Report Post »tzion
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:24am@KAdams
Report Post »“totally binding”? That’s a good one. The Talmud is a collection of arguments and discussions on the laws with several different positions being offered. Obviously they can’t all be binding. For example, there’s one opinion that the Messiah of Judaism was actually King Hezekiah (who predates Jesus). Taking certain quotes out of context, not to mention using English translations and, by extension, English definitions, is very misleading.
KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:44amI don’t see you refuting any of those passages. Add some context, will you? Since you were raised that way…
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:50amWhile I understand that Wiki is user-edited, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
Both Talmuds are described, the Babylonian and the Jerusalem. You say that the Talmud is a collection of old mens’ ramblings… yet wiki says it was the law. Who to believe?
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:55am@Tzion:
“Also, how were the leaders captives? Who was holding them captive?”
Nebudchanezzer held them captive. In Babylon.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:57amI had gotten my facts turned around in regards to the Talmuds, and the Mishna with the Torah. But hey, I’m not God, I’m only a fallible human being. God forgives me, though.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 12:04pmYeah, Binding.
“According to Maimonides (whose life began almost a hundred years after the end of the Gaonic era), all Jewish communities during the Gaonic era formally accepted the Babylonian Talmud as binding upon themselves, and modern Jewish practice follows the Babylonian Talmud’s conclusions on all areas in which the two Talmuds conflict.”
Report Post »http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
JethroUSMC
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 12:31pmThe crucifixion was all part of God’s larger plan. The fact that Jewish people happened to be there in person is not the point as Christians believe (sic: Should believe) Christ died for the Worlds Sin – all of it not because of the Jews or any other group of people.
Nice white supremacist talking point though.
Report Post »OFFTHEMENU.US
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 12:56pm-And just as smart as Jethro Bodean-(see Beverly Hillbillies).
Report Post »Well, at least he knows who is boss on this planet-“Nice white supremacist talking point though”
AND, hey, he actually spelled most of his words correctly!! Yes Mr. Bodean gets a gold star for the first time, even though he clearly still does not grasp the MEANING of his words, at least his spelling is coming around to say a third grade level! KUDOS!
KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 9:57amActually, it was because of the Jews. If not for the Jews’ rejection of God over and over again, God would have never given the chance to Gentiles. God wanted a people that want Him as well. Not people like the skeptical Jews, who wanted proof all the time, and never retained God in their knowledge. Since the Gentiles welcomed God with open arms, glorifying Him as he wished the Jews to do, he turned to the Gentiles, and away from the Jews.
Romans
Report Post »11:25-28 “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father’s sakes. ” <<<< This passage here. Jews are beloved for Abraham, Isaac and Jacob's sakes, not their own.
poverty.sucks
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 11:30amCatholics and Mormons are not really Christians at all, therefore no offense against them until they profess Christ Jesus as their savior, bow to Him the King of Kings, repent, live for Him.
Report Post »Sugabee
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 11:35amOh my goodness! Do some research!! I cannot speak for Mormons, but Catholics ARE Christians! Holy cow, who do you think compiled the Scriptures that make up the Bible?? EVERY single Mass proclaims that Jesus is our Lord and King! I cannot believe there are still people in this country who think that is even true!!
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 12:15pmPOVERTYSUCKS – You are nuts!
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 12:24pmCatholic Priest will spend 5 years or more in preparation for “Works” without ever researching any scripture of the Holy Bible, therefore, provide ALL the Sacrements that require reading the Holy Bible to seek Christ Jesus for your salvation. You know, the part about being a Christian.
Report Post »Mamma Bear
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 12:32pmPROVERTY.SUCKS – You are crazy! Really???? Do your research and then make comments. Get educated. How do you think that Catholics are not Christians? How do you think that the Bible even exists today without the involvement of the Catholic Church? How do you think that “Christians or even free thinking non-Christians” are going to survive whats it coming to the world and even America in the future without banding together? Hard for me to believe that you are a Beck fan – think you are a progessive plant here! Go away!!!
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 12:37pmpoverty.sucks is a troll demon that needs to open his eyes. Ignore this demon and feed him no fuel.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 12:51pmI’m a servant of God and Jesus Christ. To whom are a slave?
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:14pmYo Mamma Bear, here’s your chance, educate me, provide the Sacraments, dig deep, it isn’t there.
Report Post »ThoreauHD
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:16pmHistorically ignorant nutcase. When you say hello to Peter, be sure and tell him, all the apostles and saints, that aren’t really Christian. And be sure to let us know how it goes.
Report Post »BMroxy
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:57pmYou do not know much about Mormons do you? They do accept Jesus Christ as their saviour. They even get baptized….. imagine that!
poverty.sucks
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 2:53pmAn Angel coming to John Smith, and he alone becomes the organizer of the Mormon Faith isn’t Christianity.
Report Post »pennswoods
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 2:56pmWhat Church existed for 1,500 years before the Reformation and can trace it’s historical roots directly back to Pentecost? The Catholic Church in it’s Eastern and Western Church branches is that Church today. What Church preserved the Bible by having it hand copied by scribes until Guttenberg invented his movebale type printing press in the 1480‘s and printed the Bible for all to own almost 40 years before the Catholic Monk Martin Luther broke with the Catholic Church in the 1520’s? The Catholic Church.You may disgree with what the Catholic Church teaches but it is the historical Church. There were no Episcoplians, Lutherans, Calvinists, Baptists, Mormons, etc in the 1st century after Christ was there?
Report Post »mycomet123
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 3:46pmPOVERTY SUCKS– I’m curious?? Were you dropped on your head as a baby???.
Report Post »edmundburk
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 3:58pmhey poverty, take your evengelical hate and go to the protestant sites!
Report Post »BMroxy
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:45pmHey Edmundburk please don’t send him to the protestant sites… thank you : )
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 10:02amInstead of disagreeing with Poverty, you guys calling him crazy should so some research. He’s right, they are cults. Before you go off the deep end, check out http://www.contendingfortruth.com There are many, many teachings, with PLENTY of references, back up and PDF’s for your own viewing/reading enjoyment.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 10:09am@Penns
Jesus’ church was established way before the Church of Rome. The body of Christ, the bride of Christ, His church, are his saints. His living saints. Christians. Not frauds, fakes and charlatans like Padre Pio…
On another note, how‘s the memory of your ’beloved’ Pope John Paul II doing? Must be getting awfully warm in hell for the former Xyclon-B salesman. Oh, Xyclon-B? You don’t know what that is? It was the gas used in the gas chambers in the concentration camps in Germany. And your beloved current Pope? Promoted to the Office of the Inquisition when that doddering old fool JP II was on the un-Holy-roller throne.
Report Post »Biddle
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 11:26amNOTE: Faithful brothers and sisters, remember, man did not kill Jesus. Jesus gave His life, willingly. In His humanity He grieved over this, praying for strength to carry out Gods will. He came, He saw, He died. He rose again. He lives.
Report Post »LouC57
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 11:44amBiddle, well said!
Report Post »TheresaMarie
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:29pmto the point; (0:]
Report Post »Biddle
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 11:22amChildren of the promise are Jews. People of the flesh are….of the flesh. Children of the “incorruptible seed”, are Jewish. We dont understand this. Because we can not humble ourselves in front of the Word, and actually perceive it. By faith, Noah built. By faith, Abraham went. By faith, David fought. By faith, we are reborn (see John chapter 3, all of it), children of the promise. Now we are Spirit. Now we fear not what man does to the body. Rather we revere the one who has the power to cast both the body and soul into hell. Is the body of believers divided? Are there asterisks referring to race, creed? Or are we an innumerable people, from every fleshly race, tribe, and tongue on earth? We are the latter.
Report Post »IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:45amBe careful of the websites that you click on. The Jerk’s is one site not to be trusted. There is a trusted website that you can go to to check them out.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:50amIt’s not my website. Simply Google: True Torah Jews Against Zionism. The others are Wikipedia. So, what’s your point?
Report Post »IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:56amYou just gave two points –Google and Wiki
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:59amThanks, you gave me the answer. ?
Report Post »IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 11:11amJust don’t go to sites that give untrue information or dangerous to your machine.
Report Post »LouC57
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 11:46amThe Jerk,
Report Post »Wikipedia can and is edited by whomever registers. It can not be trusted as a reliable source.
democritusoilder267
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:39amAs someone who is Jewish by birth I can understand how many Jews will dislikes gentiles. With both Christians and Muslims trying to convert us to their religions I see no letting up on this.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:47amTruth be told, if you were raised Jewish, you were taught to suspect gentiles.
Report Post »democritusoilder267
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:52amYes I would agree. Over the years I have come to respect any person regardless being Jewish or not. There have been other Jews I talked to who really told me off on supporting people who are critical of Zionism.
Report Post »Zenzazin
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 11:55am@the_Jerk – I was raised Jewish and was never taught to suspect gentiles; I was, however, raised to be very suspicious of ignorant bigots who make sweeping claims about groups of people they likely know nothing about beyond what sound bites tell them
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 12:45pmWe are commanded to “Preach the Gospel to every creature”. Do not compare us to muslims. They convert by the sword. We convert by the Word of God. I love the Jewish people. They are my spiritual ancestors. I’m a fundamental christian. If I did not believe the Messiah had come, I would be a Jew. My Lord was a Jew. God created the Jew to reveal his Glory. If we gentiles believe in a false messiah, then what is the fear of being converted? Perhaps, it’s the fear of realizing that every single prophesy from Moses to Malachai about Messiah is fulfilled in the Man, Christ Jesus.
Report Post »tzion
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:08pm@Squid
Report Post »Jews are suspicious of Christian “help” as well because it is only rather recent that Christians as a whole convert with only words. In the Middle Ages, official disputations (which had been stacked in favor of Christians) were held that often were used to justify burning Jewish books etc. Martin Luther himself believed that the Reformation would bring Jews flocking to Christianity and became quite bitter when they didn’t. And then of course there are the Crusades. Jews have learned from experience that Christianity is not a religion that is always of peace, something Christians who are peaceful should be aware of.
BMroxy
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 2:16pmTo all Yhudim, Yahweh is still with thee. I am a faithful Christian who will pray for you. As a Christian I am to walk my path in life as Yeshua who loved all and forgave all. I am not perfect and I shall fall at times and make mistakes however I continue to grow in wisdom and my faith gets stronger always. Yahweh knows each and every one of our hearts. May Yahweh be in yours.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 9:03am@Tzion: The Crusades were initiated by the Church of Rome, and used the Knights’ secret orders (Templars, Rosicrucians) to carry out their death sentences. None were Christian.
Report Post »tzion
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 10:38am@Kadams
Report Post »The Crusaders rode into battle with shields adorned with crosses. And I’m sure they all considered themselves to be true Christians regardless of what you say. If you want to argue that they weren’t true Christians go ahead, but that won’t change the fact that they saw themselves as Christians.
KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:26am@Tzion: The symbol was actually the Cross and the Crown, for the Rosicrucians. The cross represented the phallic, or male, and the crown represented the *******, or female, the whole representing the Baphomet aspect. Satan is the master deceiver. Of course they would have red crosses on their shields. He deceived you, didn’t he?
2Corinthians:
Report Post »11:14-15 “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.”
Locked
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:21amSaid it before and I’ll say it again. There’s no painting an entire religion based in one broad stroke. Fundamentalism is, and has always been, the main issue. Doesn‘t matter if it’s Jewish, Islamic, or Christian fundamentalism; as soon as you start thinking anyone other than your group is less than human just because they don’t belong, you’re on the path to extremism. Israel’s going to have a tough time dealing with its fundamentalist population in the coming decades.
Hopefully the vandals are caught and prosecuted soon. And thank goodness it was just graffiti this time.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:31amAbsolutely true. Now, if only our media lived by that truth and ceased with the incessant drive to demonize Arabs and Muslims, while protecting Jews and Israel.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 12:50pmJesus was a fundamentalist. If by fundamentalists you mean someone who truly believes and is willing to die for it. I call them genuine. Also, how many people have died at the hands of fundamentalist christians because they weren’t of the same faith? Zero.
I guess if people are willing to say that Word of God is silly, outdated and should be ignored, then they would be acceptable to you?
Report Post »tzion
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:18pm@Squid
Report Post »Ignorance is no excuse for your ridiculous comment. Were you not counting the Crusades? How about all the Pogroms against Jews? The Chmielnicki Massacre? Spanish Inquisition? There are Christian fundamentalists who post on this very website that advocate killing all the Jews. Don‘t tell me Christians don’t murder people of different faiths. Historically, Christians have probably killed people from dozens of faiths because they weren’t Christian.
Locked
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 3:05pm@Squid
“Jesus was a fundamentalist. If by fundamentalists you mean someone who truly believes and is willing to die for it. I call them genuine. Also, how many people have died at the hands of fundamentalist christians because they weren’t of the same faith? Zero.
I guess if people are willing to say that Word of God is silly, outdated and should be ignored, then they would be acceptable to you?”
Jesus was not a fundamentalist in the modern description; he brought forth the new testament, and his followers created brand new religions different than the Judaism upon which they were based. He challenged and overthrew many of the old laws, giving new commandments to follow. A fundamentalist Jew would have been the greatest of the Pharisees, who followed every law and would attack those who did not do so.
I’d never tell someone their religion is silly or outdated. People can believe whatever they want. But fundamentalists demand people believe what they do, and often attack the beliefs of those who do not.
Report Post »antrancher
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 8:30pmJerk….Our media demonizes Arabs and Muslims, while protecting Jews and Israel??
You have got to be kidding!!!!!!!!
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 9:06amAgain, Tzion, you’re wrong in your information. The Spanish Inquisition was Catholicism vs. the rest of the world. All were put to the torture, if you didn’t confess to being a heathen or convert. Not just Jews, but real Christians as well. The Moors (Muslims) also were tortured. In that time, even if you confessed and converted, they still killed you. The Catholics/Jesuits did the killing, with the Knights as their sword-arm.
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Posted on February 8, 2012 at 10:43am@Kadams
Report Post »How is that not what I said? The only point of distinction here is that you don’t think Catholics are Christians while they themselves say otherwise. Who exactly are these “true Christians”? Orthodox, Catholic, some reform sect? They all subscribe to the exact same texts and core beliefs. I think you‘re just trying to shift the blame onto someone else so that you don’t have to face the fact the Christianity is historically at least as bloody as Islam.
KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:34am@Tzion: You poor soul. You truly don’t understand the scope and depths to which Satan can work. Christians don’t have to follow a denomination. Christians have faith, study their Bibles, try and preach the gospel, and fellowhip. For centuries, pagan beliefs have been amalgamated into Christianity to debase it… Catholicism is one of them. Here, let me give you some more reading on why it‘s believed most of the worlds’ established religions are all works-based religions.
http://www.contendingfortruth.com/?s=church+cult+religion+faith
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:46amHehe. I said ‘fellowhip’. I meant fellowship.
Report Post »CodexMan
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:20amThis madness will continue until all of the Muslems are converted to Christianity. We need to keep praying for this to happen. Jesus died for their sins and and the sins of the whole world.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:45amJesus actually died, was killed, at the hands of the Pharisees. Pharisees were ethnic Jews. There were no Muslims during Jesus’ time. They came hundreds of years, centuries, later.
Report Post »So, let’s stop with the propagandizing.
tzion
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:00pm@JErk
Report Post »And you can prove it was the Pharisees? How can you know it wasn’t the Sadducees? In fact, had Jesus been killed by Pharisees, he wouldn‘t have been crucified because the Pharisees didn’t believe in crucifixion. On the other hand, when Jesus did his thing on the Temple Mount, that would have been a direct challenge to the Sadducees who controlled the Temple. Moreover, wasn’t the High Priest, a Sadducee, overseeing Jesus’ trial. Under Pharisaic law the High Priest has no place in legal decisions. The Sadducees are the only group that had motive, would have willingly handed someone over to them Romans, and would have allowed the High Priest to participate in his trial.
And by the way, the Sadducees became irrelevant around 70 CE.
KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 9:21am@Tzion: The Pharisees where the elders, and the Sadducees were the scribes. Neither were the priest class, as that was reserved for the tribe of Levi. You couldn’t be a merchant or scribe if you were a priest.
Mark
14:53 “And they led Jesus away to the high priest: and with him were assembled all the chief priests and the elders and the scribes.”
You said that crucifixion wasn’t the preferred method of death for the Jews?
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15:12-15 “And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews? And they cried out again, Crucify him. Then Pilate said unto them, Why, what evil hath he done? And they cried out the more exceedingly, Crucify him. And so Pilate, willing to content the people, released Barabbas unto them, and delivered Jesus, when he had scourged him, to be crucified.”
tzion
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 10:56am@Kadams
Report Post »Your history is off. The Pharisees and Sadducees were separate an opposing sects. The Pharisees believed in the binding nature of oral tradition while the Sadducees believed that only the written laws were binding. For the modern day equivalent of Sadducee look up the Karaites. Under Roman rule, the Sadducees were highly accepting of much of Roman culture and were therefore favored by their Roman rulers, who often took the liberty of appointing the king or High Priest. The Sadducees controlled the Temple and usually lived in large luxurious houses and palaces while the Pharisees lived in more modest dwelling. Jesus challenged the power of the Temple openly, and by extension the Sadducees who were the ruling power.
In regards to crucifixion, I said the Pharisees didn’t employ it (because the oral traditions they held to didn’t include crucifixion as a valid form of execution) while the Sadducees did (because for them there was no defined way of executing someone).
Maybe you should better familiarize yourself with history before you start talking like an expert.
KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:21amMy history comes from the Bible, obviously. Where did yours come from?
Report Post »tzion
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:33amThe Christian Bible is a historical reference, but it wasn’t written to give a complete recollection of the nature of Jewish culture and politics at the time. For that information you’d need to use not just the Christian Bible (which I do draw upon) but also historians like Josephus, archeological evidence, as well as other sources. The Christian Bible rarely, if ever, distinguishes between any of the Jewish sects. The differences were so extreme among the Jews that they couldn’t put their differences aside long enough to sustain a rebellion against Rome.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:39amIn my opinion, the Word of God is just that. God’s word. We don’t need to distinguish between the Hebrew people. We need to distinguish the Hebrew people from the Synagogue of Satan. Tell me something.. are you of Hebrew descent, or was your family converted/adopted into the faith? Not all Jews are Hebrew, after all.
Report Post »nuchsh
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:13amThey do it all the time arabs spray painting anti muslim threats and blame the jews here is some of the stories
google it its called “price tag”
http://r-mew.blogspot.com/2012/01/israeli-arab-argues-arabs-responsible.html
http://prosemiteundercover.phpbbnow.com/viewtopic.php?t=23380&sid=be6e43c0b4f65ccbc88c2f6807476a2d
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:23amThere are good Jews and bad Jews just like any people group. There ARE bad Jews, deal with it.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:26amGoogle this to see who is fooling who. Note the part where Jews were dressed as Arabs.
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tzion
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:23pm@Smack
Report Post »All you did is prove Gonzo’s point. Also, note that the targeted building housed a military command post. The incident you linked to only shows that Irgun, which no longer exists, failed to keep civilians out of their disputes with the British military. Compare that to Palestinians who blow up restaurants.
Arc
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:08amDis-information…….Muslims attacking their own and leaving Jewish evidence…….psychological warfare……
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:13am‘Denial’ comes to mind when reading those words.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:13amBaloney.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:18amNice try Arc. Israel has a very militant and vocal fundamentalist population and they’ve done stuff like this before. At least they’re not lobbing molotov cocktails.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:19amCould be… Hitler was Famous for it; Wilson initiated it; FDR was best at it!
Report Post »tzion
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:27pmAs a Jew, I wouldn’t make that assumption without proof. Muslim extremists aren’t know for that level of subterfuge. Take that fake photo that showed up recently. They portrayed an Israeli soldier holding an AK-47. Total fail.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:08amHopefully they will find a way to live together in peace. They will always have war because Palestine does not recognize Israel’s right to exist. Until they get past that I don’t see much headway for peace.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:21amEuropeans and Americas took Palestinian land to make their state of Israel. How about recognizing the rights of the real victims; those victims who lost their land, homes, and businesses; those victims relocated to ghettos that are today being walled in.
Report Post »If these acts are justifiable today, then they must have been justifiable in the past. One can not have it both ways. If Palestinians are not today’s victims, then Jews could not have been the victims of yesterday.
tzion
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:34pm@Jerk
Report Post »What about all the Jews that lost their land in Arab nations? 500,000 Palestinians fled for various reasons in 1948 while 700,000 Jews were exiled by their host Arab nations. And last I checked, Palestinians still live in Israel, do business, and those walls (which are actually fences for the most part) are more like border fences than ghetto walls. After all, people can pass through the barrier, right? Don’t we allow those with passports to cross our borders? Besides, those people spent almost 20 years living under Arab rule and were treated even worse than they are today. Israel at least recognizes them enough to negotiate. Jordan and Egypt ignored their very existence.
rumple
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:08amThese jewish racists should be condemed and prosecuted the same as any other racist.
The number one for of racism in western societies today is that not all racism is treated the same.
Jewish racist = black racist = muslim racist = white racist = asian racist
Report Post »littlefish
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 9:56amYeah .. . those Jewish terrorists . . .still mad over the millions the Muslims helped Hitler kill . . .
Report Post »Why can’t they get over stuff like the Muslims . . . . .
The_Jerk
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:12amFact is, Jews have been attacking Christ and Christianity from the beginning… the crucifixion, to Saul, to today.
And, Jews helped Hitler, not Muslims. http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/holocaust/gedalyaLiebermann.cfm
This is, of course, the shadow history.
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Posted on February 7, 2012 at 1:52pm@Jerk
Report Post »Instead of quoting those whose sole agenda is to demonize Zionism you might consider looking to actual history and historians for your information. All the citations on that page you linked to are written as “[Source]“. I‘m sorry but I can’t check “Source” for confirmation of a single claim on that page. Try primary sources or secondary sources that quote primary sources instead of these questionable ones.
KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 9:30amHey Tzion, why don’t you go check out Eustace Mullins? He explains how the Rothschilds bought Isreal in 1828, and started the ‘reform Judeaism’ movement ans basically convinced some of the Jews that they were no longer in diaspora and could happily have their nation back. A majority of Orthodox(real) Jewry knew this was false, and fought against it, culminating in the near extinction of real Jews at the Holocaust. With the rabbinical (spiritual) leaders of the Hebrew people dead or dying, the Zionists installed their own leadership in the newly formed ‘nation’ of Israel. Where do you think Nazi came from? Hitler couldn’t succeed without the help of the Zionists… so he was told. So they merged the Nationalist Party with the Zionists, and voila. The Nazi Party.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 10:14amCon’t from above:
So you see, they both almost got what they wanted. The Zionists, who worship Satan, whose goal it is to corrupt the seed of man, almost succeeded in eradicating the Hebrew people, and Hitler almost fulfilled his most desired wish: to eradicate anyone he deemed as racially impure.
Report Post »tzion
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:08am@Kadams
Report Post »Hitler made no distinction between religious or secular Jews. Hitler made no exemptions for Zionist Jews. Hitler and the Nazis considered some people to be Jews who were barely Jewish at all. How was he working with them? True many religious Jews opposed Zionism and some still do. But there were also religious Zionists as well as religious Jews already living throughout what is modern day Israel. If Hitler made any deals with Zionists it was only to gain the trust of Jews so as to more easily go about exterminating them. Do you think Hitler came out and told the Jews “Get on this train. It will take you to the death camps.” Of course not. He propagandized it, much like our leaders today, so as to convince people that everything would work out. And there were many devoted Zionists who died in the Holocaust as well.
KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:43amLol. As if the Zionists would tell Hitler they were Jews. They knew he was unstable, they only wanted to use him, like they use so many others. As far as Zionists dying, it was ‘sacrificial’. Satanists/Zionists are good at human sacrifices. They’ve set up the mass killings very methodically.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 12:06pmAs far as ‘working with them’… Hitler wasn’t so much working with the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers, Hitler worked FOR them.
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