Dem Rep. Pete Stark Praises Atheists‘ ’National Day of Reason’ on House Floor
- Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:15pm by
Billy Hallowell
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If you’re an outspoken atheist, winning an election on the national level is an uphill battle. Perhaps the prime evidence of this charge can be observed by looking at Congress, where there is only one vocal atheist: Rep. Pete Stark (D-CA). The American people, as polls have consistently shown, have an overall mistrust for non-believers and generally like their politicians to tout an adherence to the Almighty.
While, as famed scientist Richard Dawkins noted a few months back, there may be other non-believing elected officials, Stark is the only individual willing to admit that he doesn’t embrace the existence of a higher power. The congressman is so outspoken that he issued a proclamation in the U.S. House of Representatives on Friday that officially recognized what he and his compatriots call the “National Day of Reason.”
Additionally, he delivered the following address at the Reason Rally, an event that was widely dubbed an “atheist Woodstock,” back in March:
Stark’s support for the Day of Reason will help to spread the non-belief and “reason” that the initiative has been attempting to disseminate since its inception in 2003. The event, clearly derived from and a play on the annual “National Day of Prayer,” is certainly one that will be fully embraced by atheist and secularist communities.
In fact, it is the American Humanist Association, a group that advocates for “progressive values” for non-believers, that originally created the National Day of Reason. But with the growth of the atheist movement and the increased influence that secularists are having on society, the initiative is finally picking up steam (Stark’s endorsement certainly helps this growth).
A screen shot from the National Day of Prayer web site
And here’s the kicker: Atheists have chosen Thursday, May 3, to serve as the official National Day of Reason. This is the same day that religious communities across America will be celebrating the aforementioned day of prayer. So, very clearly, the day was chosen, with reason (pun intended), to serve as an alternative to the Judeo-Christian-led festivities.
Here is a portion of the proclamation that Stark delivered on the House Floor last week:
The National Day of Reason celebrates the application of reason and the positive impact it has had on humanity. It is also an opportunity to reaffirm the Constitutional separation of religion and government. [...]
Our nation faces many problems—bringing our troops home from Afghanistan, creating jobs, educating our children, and protecting our safety net from irresponsible cuts. We will solve these issues through the application of reason. We must also protect women’s reproductive choices, the integrity of scientific research, and our public education system from those who would hide behind religious dogma to undermine them.
Finally, the National Day of Reason is about taking time to improve our communities. Every year, events are held on this day that demonstrate the desire of secular Americans to help their fellow citizens and our nation as a whole. Community service events, such as food drives and blood drives, are just some of the ways that people will be working to help those in need on the Day of Reason and throughout the year.
A screen shot of the National Day of Reason web site
On Monday, the AHA released a statement praising these comments and further advertising their National Day of Reason.
“Reason should be the guiding force for public policy,” proclaimed Roy Speckhardt, the executive director of the AHA. “The National Day of Prayer excludes millions of Americans who choose not to pray or prefer keeping prayer private. Reason is something that everyone can celebrate.”
The Secular Coalition for America’s communications manager, Lauren Anderson Youngblood, mirrored these same sentiments.
“Our founders recognized that the best guarantee of freedom for all was a separation of religion and government,” she said. “The National Day of Reason reminds us of the continued importance of our nation’s founding principles and offers an alternative to the government-sponsored theism that the National Day of Prayer represents.”
Of course, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and atheists, among others, would all, generally speaking, have different definitions regarding what, exactly, “reason” means.
The main premise of the event, it seems, isn’t just the celebration of this ambiguous tenet. The AHA is looking to showcase the reasons it opposes the Day of Prayer and it has provided the following list of grievances on the initiative’s web site:
- The National Day of Prayer violates the First Amendment of the US Constitution because it asks federal and local government entities to set aside tax dollar supported time and space to engage in religious ceremonies. This results in unconstitutional governmental support of religion over no religion.
- Lead by fundamentalist Christian Shirley Dobson, the National Day of Prayer Task Force promoted thousands of events specifically in accordance with its Judeo-Christian beliefs and focused on a small segment of the Protestant Christianity. Since they hold their events on the government sponsored National Day of Prayer, government officials of all levels participate in these events as if they were government endorsed.
- The Supreme Court has made it clear (and most Americans agree) that state sponsored prayer in school is inappropriately exclusionary. Why is a nationally sponsored day of prayer any more inclusive? This national effort geared toward a small slice of the religious spectrum is clearly outside the boundaries of proper governmental reach.
- The National Day of Prayer makes those who don’t pray feel like second-class citizens. Why set aside a national day that needlessly excludes?
- Religious Americans who wish to pray don’t need to be reminded by government to do so, so there’s no reason to limit prayer to a single day for those who chose to practice their chosen faith in that way. Government has no business saying when or what Americans should do when and if they engage in religious practice.
- Government also violates the First Amendment with the National Day of Prayer by acting to promote a certain manifestation of religion. It emphasizes only one form of religious practice, and therefore discriminates against the many others, including alms giving, social justice, fasting, peace activism and meditation.
- Many traditional religious groups encourage adherents not to make their prayer public, so this state sponsored public display of prayer is a direct affront to such teachings and disrespects countless religious Americans. Many Americans faithfully follow the words from the Sermon on the Mount, “When you pray don’t do it loudly in the synagogue or on street corners so that everyone can see you and think you are really good and holy.”
- Whenever government involves itself in religious practice as is done with the National Day of Prayer it taints that religious practice by reducing the co-opted religion’s effectiveness to protest government action, and also (in an infeasible effort to broaden the practice’s appeal) government inappropriately dilutes the messages of faithful adherents.
- Freedom of expression and worship, including the opportunity to pray or not pray as we wish, are already present without government endorsement. There is no need to set-aside a public day for prayer.
So, it seems the Day of Prayer has a companion, albiet an unwelcome one (at least among religious adherents).
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Comments (143)
Dismayed Veteran
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 4:15pmYou have to love a Constitutional Republic. I get to believe or not believe. If I believe, there is no state church that requires participation. Let the non-believers have their day. It is the individual who is judged not the collective. They can’t harm me.
Report Post »dave3433
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 6:38pmIf they don’t believe it, why do they care that I do? Follow the $$, once again. The self-appointed or MSM-annointed atheist leaders/spokespersons, benefit by being paid to align themselves with . . . what . . . Nothing? I guess they believe that, believing in Nothing = believing in, say, God? But the progressive water-boys, AKA the MSM, benefit by having Nothing as the news. The believers in Nothing are planning to build a cathederal, I suppose, (no joke, folks) to worship Nothing. They will apply and get Tax-exempt status, as a real religion, and, soon, the long-suffering and socially denied, faithful followers of Nothing, will be able to fill the coffers, to Nothing’s end. :-) Thanks, Dave
Report Post »InversionTheory
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 9:37pmIf most people thought like the two of you, I might consider running for office. But how many would vote for a gay, atheist conservative? Not enough. My agenda, call it naive if you will, is to leave as many people as possible alone to do as they please as long as no 3rd party has to pay for the consequences. I believe in the free market and science and I point to history to show they solve more problems than they create. I distrust anyone who says “I‘m from the government and I’m here to help.” And I certainly never trust anyone who tells me that they have all the answers and will gladly sell them to me (as in Global Warming/Climate change). But regardless, I’m unelectable. So enjoy the kind of person who you can elect…
Report Post »mzk1
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:04amMy fellow Orthodox Jews in my old neighborhood picked a Republican Catholic over a fellow Orthodox Jew who happened to be a Democrat, and who I’m sure would have been solidly pro-Israel.
So you never know.
It would largely depend on whether you publicize it by bringing your boyfriend around. Ed Koch was highly electable.
Report Post »PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:27amAtheist : When wicked and unprincipled persons have gone on a course of sin to the degree that they can scarcely hope for pardon, and find they have reason to fear the just judgment of God for their sins, they begin at first to wish that there was no God to punish them; which they think would be in their best interests. And so, by degrees they persuade themselves that there is no God. Then they determine to find arguments to back their opinion in order to prove what they are willing to believe. Most don’t want to be inconvenienced and/or quit their life of sin.
Report Post »Wikipidia: Pascal’s Wager.
If I am wrong and there is no God I have lost nothing. But, If I am right and there is a God I have gained everything. If you are right and there is no God you’ve lost nothing. But, if you are wrong and there is a God you’ve lost everything.
JGraham III
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:06amI can’t believe I wasted time reading about yet another atheist claiming that reason trumps religion; well maybe it does, but…reason does not trump Truth. There is a lot of religion in Christianity today: the only way to tell the difference is to compare today’s church with what the Bible says. Herein is the choice: one has to decide if the Bible is in fact the Word of God. If yes then act accordingly; if not do likewise. No problem from me if a person chooses to not believe. What I do have a problem with (and most publically professing atheists of late fall into this category) is their twisted insistence on deriding me because I dare to disagree with them. They are being “unreasonable” about their religious non-religion. The word for their behavior is ‘hypocrite”..nice that they know what it means when applied to the likes of me, but strangely silent when applied to their own actions. Well at least on the 3rd of May they can be reasonable..
Report Post »grandma7
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:35pmVOTE: Chris Pareja
Report Post »The BEST alternative to Stark
raderby
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 4:09pmPete, brain rot has reached max…. time to retire.
Report Post »Kaoscontrol
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 4:22pmHe’s announcing a national day of RAISINS? That must be to avoid the “Grapes of Wrath”.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 5:44pm@KAOSCONTROL
Good one!
“and the Greeks will inherit the Earth…”
Gotta love Monty Python
Report Post »OutOfTheAether
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 6:28pm@KAOSCONTROL
Thanks for the chuckle
Report Post »drbage
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 9:57pmThis from the same ELECTED official who feels that debt is a good thing.
Report Post »ccfonten
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:21amAnd what would you expect from someone from californication and the home of hollyweird??
Report Post »CrawfishFestival2
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 4:09pmPete Stark does NOT live in California. he rents a building.
He lives in Maryland – and was busted through his homestead exemption claim in Maryland.
Pelosi as House Speaker, Maxine Waters, Senator Feinstein know this – but yet gives Stark a Free Pass to be a US Congressman representing California.
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Maybe since John Boehner is House Speaker, a Republican, he can/will deal with it.
if you have time, send an email or letter to the House Speaker – about it.
Report Post »ToTheSurface
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 4:05pmExclusion? That‘s stupid because there’s no exclusion if you have a choice. You can either do or you don’t, plain and simple.
Report Post »ToTheSurface
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 4:09pm“The National Day of Prayer makes those who don’t pray feel like second-class citizens. Why set aside a national day that needlessly excludes?”
Really?
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 2:49amTOTHESURFACE, I agree. No one is forcing them to participate or simply walk out.
Report Post »georgepatton
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 4:03pmHe’s STARK raving looney!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 2:51amGEORGEPATTON. Is he or is it a ploy to gain the Atheists vote?
Report Post »stage9
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 4:03pm“In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior. The Declaration of Independence laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity.” — John Quincy Adams (Sixth President of the United States; Diplomat; Secretary of State; U.S. Senator; US Representative)
“The great, vital, and conservative element in our system is the belief of our people in the pure doctrines and the divine truths of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.”8 — Congress 1854
“[W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” – John Adams (Source: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Little, Brown, and Co. 1854), Vol. IX, p. 229, October 11, 1798.)
“The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.” 1. — John Adams (Signer of the Declaration; Judge; Diplomat; One of the Two Signers of the Bill of Rights, Second President of the United States)
Report Post »Ayla_me
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:39amAmen. As many of my area faithful will gather at the courthouse, I will join them to pray for our nation. It is so sad that Obama has time to party and vacation and play golf and tour the world, but when a tornado devestates a town, he is nowhere to be found, nor is he encouraging kindness, responsibilty, and entreapunership (sp). God is pouring out His Wrath on our nation, and Obama doesn’t even care…in fact, he is aiding and abetting our downfall. God is not mocked. Then again, He warned us that this very thing would happen. Come soon, Lord Jesus! And protect the innocents until your return.
Report Post »MittensKittens
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:57pmWe need a “Day of Reason” because we don’t use reason anymore in this country…It has nothing to do with God…If it did, this country wouldn‘t be in the mess it’s in. Reasonable people do reasonable things, it’s the rest of these wack-jobs we have to worry about, and most of them hold some position in this administration.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 4:03pmThe Bible is the INSTRUCTION MANUAL upon LIFE… and yet people Reason they can Build a Tower of Babble without Instructions!
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 4:48pmi get along just fine without a manual, thank you very much. i am fortunate enough to have a wonderful life, and i thank those who actually helped build it – my parents, my teachers, and my friends. feel free to thank whomever you like, including a being whom you’ve never met or have any proof of his existence.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 5:09pmUh Philly, where do you suppose your parents et al, came upon the codes you were taught to follow? Here’s a hint…BIBLE / God’s instruction manual
Report Post »CougarNick78
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 5:17pmAnd there goes Philly again. Sneering and mocking. Yeah, you’re a real draw to your movement. ‘I die and then I rot!’ Woo-hoo! Can‘t wait to see when you’re right about the afterlife.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 5:28pmoh and by the way Philly….Thomas Paine & Ben Franklin had this conversation oh about 220 years ago…..
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 5:31pmKAY – my mother is Catholic and my father was Jewish. maybe their moral codes did come from the Bible. i really don’t have any way of knowing. what i do know is that my code is very different from either of them. as i suspect that your “code” is different from your parents or other Christians. there is no universal code for how to behave.
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 5:32pmCOUGAR – how was i being condescending? i was stating FACT. or have you met this God of yours?
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 5:47pm@PHILLYATHEIST
Is it possible that marrying outside your religion produces non-believing children?
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 5:52pmBROTHER – i’m not sure if there is a correlation or not. i’d be interested to know if any studies have been done. i’d think there must have been, no?
more me personally, it had no effect. my own critical thinking and questions about what i was learning at Church was what did it for me. i was looking for evidence, and there was none. still isn’t, which is why i haven’t switched back.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 5:59pm@LUKERW
Most of us here understand that this country would not exist if it weren’t for the teachings of the Old & New Testaments.
The precepts therein seem so obvious today, but they are an historical anomaly, and indeed, the concepts are foreign to any other world religion.
That the individual is important, regardless of parentage or station seems obvious to us, but most of the world does not live by this code.
To use a cliche: These people were born on third base, yet they think they hit a triple.
We may not be perfect, but God’s laws are.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 6:07pm1) I’m sure it has. It would be worth looking into. I’ll try to get back to you on it.
2) Religion is not something that can be reasoned.
We are taught that “spiritual things are spiritually discerned”.
That doesn’t make you a bad person…I need to make it clear that I am not arguing with you.
I get a lot of comfort and solace from my religion, but there are many who don’t need it (though I would add – yet).
I applaud you for being so open on a site that is made up mostly of believers and would see your comments as an affront to their beliefs.
I, for one, am of the opinion that your actions or unbelief do not affect my salvation.
My only concern is the persecution (yes, ridicule of one’s beliefs is persecution) by those who are non-believers is intensifying and the consequences of this may have undesired results.
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 6:24pmBROTHER – wow. i can say with certainty that we would be friends if we knew each other in real life. thank you for your comments, and i wish many others shared your POV.
are for the consequences of increased non-belief – i’m not so sure they will be bad. there will always be Religion, and so long as Atheist get a seat at the table then i think you’ll hear the tone dull down quite a bit. we aren’t actively trying to convert. we are just trying to get our message out there for other non-Believers to feel comfortable being who they are ,and to have representation in an increasingly religious political forum.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 6:27pmActually Philly the Bible is the universal code…..you just find that inconvenient. Oh that people would let the Truth form the outcome of their desires rather than trying to conform the truth to fit those desires. The Truth is still the Truth.
See Phily the only one fooled is you. The Truth is still the Truth. Try as atheists and leftists might to change the narrative, to convince of “another” truth, there is but One Truth
Report Post »OutOfTheAether
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 6:37pmPhilly , you said: “i was stating FACT. or have you met this God of yours?”
to be an adequate question you have to define “met”
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 7:25pm@PHILLYATHEIST
No worries, ignore the haters.
It’s called faith for a reason – it can’t be proved.
I would like to say that the Holy Ghost confirms my faith to me, although an atheist would say that is no different than the ‘tingle’ running up Chris Matthews leg.
I wont make fun of Chris Matthews’ leg, and I appreciate it when the Holy Ghost isn’t mocked.
I am rarely offended, and I sincerely hope I’m not offensive.
We can all agree to disagree.
Report Post »rivapete
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:56pmYou will see “stark” differences on the 3rd. between the two rallies. The National Day of Prayer, will be attended by (just a guess) 10 times as many people as the Atheist Rally. I will not call it anything with the word reason. You will notice the difference in the mood of the crowd. One will be happy and upbeat and the other will be gloomy and depressing. I will let you decide which one. And like these other rallies, everything will be perfectly clean in more ways than one.
Report Post »stockpicker
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:49pmPsalm 14:1-3 The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none that does good
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 4:49pmhttp://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Category:Atheist
none of these people have done any good? they are all evil?
Report Post »CougarNick78
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 5:12pmNo Philly, but you sure act evil enough. FOAD.
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 5:34pmCOUGAR – please explain how i am acting evil. having a differing opinion on an internet article? it‘s an article about Atheists so i’m pretty certain that my opinion has some merit here. or is anyone who disagrees with you evil?
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 6:37pm@ Philly – good compared to what? What is the “yard stick” to be used to determine good or bad? Good compared to Adolf Hitler or good compared to Mother Teresa? The standard is good compared to a Holy (and understanding of that word would be helpful for you) , Righteous, Unchanging God.
I realize that is a tad bit inconvenient for most. And here is the tricky part…We have to compare ourselves to Him. By so doing we realize how severely we miss the mark and realize that there is no way (by human means that is) to achieve such a standard. Using any other measure is not Truth but rather rationalization.
But there is hope, God, in His mercy, has made a way for us to be right with Him, through the blood of Jesus.
Since you were raised by Catholic / Jewsih parents – you deep down in your heart know this to be true….
Free will says you must choose. Choose wisely because you don’t get a second chance on your eternal decision
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 10:07pmSigh… It would be nice if people would stop using “god” to make their arguments for them instead of Reason & Logic. You Bible Thumpers are killing what remains of Fiscal Conservatism. If you would pick up a book that argues “reason” other than a book that “threatens an eternity in hell” we probably wouldn‘t be in the miserable state we’re in. Atheist couldn‘t care less where you think they’re going. Try convincing them why socialism is bad without alienating them with your flying spaghetti monster.
“The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended.” –Frédéric Bastiat
Report Post »marine249
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:48pmmore proof that Ca. has most of the nuts and ++++++
Report Post »and just plain nut cases
suedstate
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:46pmI escaped from Mexafornia quite a few years ago, ever wonder why they call it state famous fruits and nuts.
Report Post »2SENSEWORTH
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:43pmIn the 1790’s Thomas Paine wrote the “Age of Reason”
Here’s a few blurbs –
I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life.
I believe in the equality of man…
I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any church that I know of.
My own mind is my own church.
I do not mean by this declaration to condemn those who believe otherwise; they have the same right to their belief as I have to mine.
You should be alive today Thomas Paine – religious people’s rights are being challenged everyday..
Report Post »ProgressiveDeist267
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:51pmI like to read about Thomas Paine and other Deist. As you can see in my screen name I agree with a lot about deism. I just dislike fundamentalist and others who force religion down people’s throats. Atheist and non-believers too. I just wish we can understand our beliefs better.
Report Post »forthepeople
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:59pmThe most judgmental people I have ever met were church members , they alone give religion a bad name !
Report Post »MistaB
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:36pmProof that the democrat party is dead and has been taken over by marxists and progressives.
Report Post »lassiegirldawn
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:35pmWith @ss wholes like this in politics, no wonder out country is going to the dogs. At least obama will have plenty of Sunday dinners.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:33pmMy GOD is Infinite & Eternal… your god is Finite & Mortal (or non existent)… so, give me a Reason why I should bother to listen to you!
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:33pmStark’s just another s -c -u- m- b a-g lifer politician who will stay in office until he dies,they’ll wheel him around in a wheelchair on oxygen tanks,they just can’t give up all that money,greedy fat cats the lot of them.
Report Post »I SPY
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:28pmI’m convinced all dems are atheists.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:27pmThese people are about dead from old age, but I guess it is their jobs to create as many “atheists” as possible to accompany them into hell.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:26pmAnother reason for term limits this idiot has been in office since 1973. They call it serving but they serve themselves
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:25pmAnd just whose reason is that? Are they going to call on this “reason” on their death beds? Just get them a bag of corn to pop and some marshallows on their send off. Maybe they can use it.
Report Post »jas0707
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:25pmNo surprise Stark would feel this way. Communists are not religious.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:23pmChildren with autism are the children who serve God. How do you Atheists like that?
Report Post »marine249
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:45pmTim
sometimes you get it together
Report Post »GOOD post
ProgressiveDeist267
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 4:08pmI currently live in Sacramento, Ca. Born and raised here.
Report Post »marine249
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 4:25pm267
I almost feel sorry for you
But I know that you are as happy as
a pig in sh+t.
Report Post »ProgressiveDeist267
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:22pmThis is very interesting. I think I have found a politician I can have a lot of respect for.
Report Post »marine249
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:49pmmove to Ca.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:22pmAh, surprise, surprise… Another loony freak from California. Do they produce anything else?? Must be something foul in the water.
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:19pmFor many people, every day of their adult lives is a day of reason….what’s this guy babbling about? Celebrating something for people who don’t celebrate anything?
Report Post »AmazingGrace8
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 3:33pmHey…it will work. Seinfeld had a show on tv for years….a show about nothing! LOL
Report Post »mrsmileyface
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 7:48pmI find it unreasonable that an American doesnt believe in GOD.
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