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Democratic Congressman: It Only Takes 51 Votes to Repeal Obamacare

Democratic Congressman Henry Waxman of California may have inadvertently handed Republicans their single greatest motivator for desiring control of the Senate come November. Waxman, in an interview with the CSPAN show “Newsmakers,” disclosed that if Americans did vote for Romney and Republicans took control of the House and the Senate, Obamacare would be “wiped out.”

This was evidently supposed to scare the viewers. We suspect that fear may have been the opposite of the message that people took away. Indeed, coming from Waxman, whose aversion to honesty is so strong that he had planned to hold “show trial” hearings that would’ve basically put companies on trial for explaining to their customers how much the health care would cost them in taxes, this is probably the most unexpected good news opponents of the health care law will hear all day.

Even more ironically, Waxman’s arguments against Republicans taking control of the House sound like they were badly copy-pasted from the talking points disseminated by Republicans regarding the “death panels” provisions of Obamacare. The Washington Examiner reports:

“I think they could do it,” Waxman told Newsmakers when asked about reconciliation. “I think the American people have to understand that if they vote for Romney and they vote for Republicans to have control of the house and the senate, there’s a good chance that the health care bill will be wiped out and all these benefits will be wiped out.”[...]

“[T]he states will have to tell a lot of people at the very bottom — very poor people who are often disabled — that you’re not going to get care anymore in order to keep tax cuts for billionaires,” he said, citing Republican budget plans for Medicaid.

Waxman’s persuasive powers notwithstanding, we’ll take our chances with Paul Ryan over the Independent Payment Advisory Board. In any case, it’s quite clear that this November is going to be an extraordinary decision point.

Comments (119)

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  • eyestoseeearstohear
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:14pm

    Have we forgotten?

    Obama is illegal…and Congress AND the Supreme Court KNOW IT!
    Is anyone still unclear why Obamacare passed?

    Hard to swallow, huh?
    An illegal potus omits the congressional process in passing laws,
    and the people are having to fight for our rights & freedoms that are
    being threatend by an illegal potus.
    Can it get anymore complex? HELL YES IT CAN!

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    • Verceofreason
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:24pm

      No one’s listening.
      Time to move on.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:32pm

      Far be it from me to judge a Man by his looks but, this Man acts like a Rat stealing my cheese and he just “happens” to look the part. : )=

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 10:02pm

      So the government requires hospitals to treat people without insurance. And then they are shocked that people take advantage of the system and to fix the problem….We get health insurance mandates (Romneycare and Obamacare). But the government created the problem!!

      I just realized it the other day – let me know if i am missing anything….
      It’s called the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act and it requires hospitals to treat people without insurance. Turns out it was passed in 1986. 1986, guess who was president at the time….RONALD REAGAN!! And to make it worse, the republicans had the Senate!!!

      Folks, we cannot afford another election full of progressives. Demand the republican party remove McConnell, Boehner, and Romney. We need real leaders, like Amosh, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee. You are either a Constitutionalist, or nothing

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    • macpappy
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 10:17pm

      Everybody with a brain, knows the score on Obama’s legality; but the media is covering him as fast as a cat covering crap on a tin roof. The Democrats are willing to forfiet the US Constitution to bring about the Social Adjustment that they are pushing for, and finaly the media left covering the fruad are just too small to make much of a difference. Everybody knows, but that ship has sailed and it will not be called back.
      There are hundereds of reasons to vote for Romney, or against Obama; why rant on an issue that will not matter?

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    • macpappy
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 10:29pm

      @soybomb315
      Fairly conservative guy myself, and I see what you are saying, however; would you really want a hospital system where an injured person arrived and services were withheld because said person did not have insurance? Do you not think that a nation as rich as this one can not afford to treat emergency cases with or without insurance? Believe me, emergency room visits are not the problem with our health care system. Now, using the emergency room for routine medical care is a problem. Why do hospitals do that, to get the medicad and medicare money from the government.
      We can stand to treat our uninsured emergency patients, if only we can get the government out of medical insurance intirely.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 10:39pm

      @macpappy
      That is the system we had before 1980 – was there some mass deaths in hospital parking lots that i am not aware of? Do you realize that charities used to cover that situation? Yes, stuff like catholic hospitals would take the needy and provide services. And it was A LOT cheaper

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    • rawmilker
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:30am

      Agreed EYESTOSEE.. O bam is still an illegal border jumping, affirmative action parasite…has never worked an honest day in his pathetic little life

      ..Obamacare taxes you when you sell your home in 2013….VERCACE…STFU!

      http://www.gop.gov/blog/10/04/08/obamacare-flatlines-obamacare-taxes-home

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    • mercenary4freedom
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:15am

      Slimey weasels better do something…Gear up, lib dems will not be hard to thin out once the shtf.

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 5:15am

      Repeal Obama.
      Repeal Congress.
      Repeal Obamacare (Oxymoron).
      Buy more guns.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 5:45am

      @ The Monk

      I’m glad someone else thinks that.

      I can’t help it; every time I see him I am very strongly reminded of those cartoon mice on TV and in the movies. So much so that I often only half listen to what he’s saying.

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    • 4xeverything
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:47am

      AAAAHHHHHH, Attack of the mole-rat people!

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 1:48pm

      KIWI and MONK..I think of the same thing..Waxman looks like a cartoon character…heck..he thinks like a cartoon character. “Henry Waxman Coyote…Super Genius”.

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  • snapperman
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:06pm

    So much easier and cheaper to give each poor family an insurance voucher. I am in favor of eliminating all employer provided insurance; the current cost to companies should be provided per capita to employees and individuals would then buy their own insurance. Presented with enticing each and every individual to purchase a policy, insurance companies would compete vigorously or go out of business, like auto insurance. Throw in tort reform and insurance costs would drop dramatically even while requiring pre-existing condition and 26 year-old “child” coverage.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:18pm

      The fact is we can repeal Obamacare completely, so long as Congress and the White House are fully taken by the conservatives, and we hold the electeds feet to the fire to ensure they complete the task of its removal completely.

      Health Care reforms are needed, just not the means and ways of absolute authority dumped onto the Feds by the five SCOTUS activists; the reforms need to be dealth with portion by portion, with most of the input coming from the states, and under their control to meet the needs of their areas.

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    • JGraham III
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:21pm

      I am not holding my breath even if Romney is elected. We may well have Obamacare repealed but don’t think for a minute that “nothing” will be put in its place. The Republicans are just as capable of stupid as the Deomcrats have shown. We the People will have to hold the Repub’s feet to the fire just as much I think.

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    • chalkdust
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:48pm

      It can be repealed if we keep up the pressure whether it‘s this election or 2 election’s from now. The senate races are almost as important as the white house and continual remove and replace should be the strategy for the house. This journey has just begone. Remove and replace with tea party candidates at all levels of Government continuously. Eventually we will break the back of the machine. And I think the Democrats need a tea party as well. The ones that are not down with socialism but do believe in government solutions more than small government liberpublicans. They can begin to take their party back and soon enough we will all be much closer in views and we can have real debate without tearing the country apart. But, they must return to center/left as we are still center/right. Most of us that is.

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    • chips1
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 10:09pm

      CHALK:
      I understand your post completely, however I cringed at the statement that the democrats need a tea party. The existing Tea Party doesn’t belong to the Republicians. It welcomes everyone and is just a collection of Americans that are tired of these politicians from all parties.

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    • chalkdust
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 10:32pm

      Take a deep breath Chips, it’s just an idea. The tea party may welcome all but lets face it, not to many dems are members of their local tea party. A combined effort could accomplish the same thing but again not many dems are lining up with the tea party. They could call it what ever they wanted if it gets them closer to the center. I see a great steady effort underway to replace those in the Republican party that need to be gone and the same happening with the Democrat party except the replacements are progressives. Not to many old school reasonable dems left. It’s just an idea.

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  • AquaBuddha
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:05pm

    What a sniveling weasel shietbag this guy is. And remember Anthony Weiner? The two personify the democrat party.

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  • Abigail Adams
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:04pm

    Tell Waxman, “Thank you, Captain Obvious!”

    In the 12 years that Ron Paul has been in Congress, he has sponsored or co-sponsored 464 bills. Only ONE of them was made a law.
    FYI – the main job of Congress is to make laws. Ron Paul’s record shows he is a terrible Congressman. Add in that he is one of the largest creators of PORK in Congress, and lying about it to boot, and no sane person would ever claim Ron Paul is a good candidate for running a lemonade
    stand. Certainly not capable of being President.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:19pm

      @Abigal
      I’m not sure why you want to bring Ron Paul into this but ok. First of all, i dont know where you get your stats because you provided no link – let’s assume you are correct.

      Ron Paul has made a 30 year career out of sponsoring bills that reduce the power of the federal government, increase the sovereigntyof the states, getting the US out of the international organizations, tax cuts, reducing inflation, sound money, outlawing abortion, homeschooling, etc
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_legislation_sponsored_by_Ron_Paul

      Do you think Congress has done a good job over the last 30 years? If the republican party has not let his bills pass – then that is an indictment of the republicans – not Ron Paul. Is it better to do the right thing, or to go along and keep passing terrible laws?

      Wake up america, time is almost up

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    • LameLiberals
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:40pm

      The main job of Congress is to make laws.

      What an IDIOT statement. We have TOO MANY LAWS NOW. We are regulated to death by Congress and by Congress surrogates in the EPA, FAA, etc etc.

      Congress is NOT supposed to make laws – JUST FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING LAWS – or for drowning USA businesses and people in so many laws their every MOVE is dictated by a law.

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    • Jonathan Mailer
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:26am

      LOL!! Ron Paul’s career was devoted to fighting the growth of government, and any moron knows you don’t do that by sponsoring bills. He was one of the biggest sponsors of pork?! Really? Funny how you don‘t substantiate that because it’s absolute bullsh*t. Nice try, neocon troll.

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  • Tri-ox
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:03pm

    Thanks, Rat-Boy, you have earned an extra nibble of cheese.

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    • shorelineliz
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:19pm

      Tri-Ox: Like Katy Perry my eyes are “Wide Awake”. However, I still won’t glue cupcakes to my boobs.

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  • shorelineliz
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:01pm

    Waxman: There is no way that States are not going to take care of people in wheelchairs. Who is scaring who? The American people will take care of those “truly” disabled instead of a bunch of leeches and loafers who only “think” they are disabled and go buy lobsters, booze and cigarettes and junk food on the taxpayer dime. You should read: Christine Rouselle’s piece on her stint at WalMart titled: Elizabeth Levesque My Time at Walmart: Why We Need Serious Welfare Reform
    Dec 13 by Christine Rousselle

    During the 2010 and 2011 summers, I was a cashier at Wal-Mart #1788 in Scarborough, Maine. I spent hours upon hours toiling away at a register, scanning, bagging, and dealing with questionable clientele. These were all expected parts of the job, and I was okay with it. What I didn’t expect to be part of my job at Wal-Mart was to witness massive amounts of welfare fraud and abuse.

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  • soybomb315
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:01pm

    It only took 51 votes to get rid of social security, medicaid, medicare, food stamps, etc

    Have the republicans ever done it?

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  • Rayblue
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:59pm

    Gunfight at the Repeal Corral.

    Shootin’ blanks.
    It makes for good Hollywood..

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  • hi
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:59pm

    Goodbye Obamatax!!

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  • IMCHRISTIAN
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:58pm

    What benefits? Have you read ALL the bill. bet not

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    • shorelineliz
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:15pm

      ImChristian: 21 new taxes socking it to those who make over 200,000? That report was rebuffed on Fox Business News. ObamaTax taxes everyone. Individuals HAVE To pay their $99 dollars. Welfare rolls will swell. Medicaid will swell and smell and will look even more like that nasty stinky sponge by your kitchen sink you swear you are going to throw out. Employers have to pay 2,000 each for employees of is it 15 or 50? There is so much convoluted language in the bill that the IRS will have to “interpret’ with their new work force of 4500 tax agents that who knows what will be required. I foresee a major revolt. Better get your **** shield on ( a term used in my family) cause the CRAP is going to start flying fast and it is just a gonna keep on a coming this way! But, then, in true Obama style, “never waste a crisis”, right? Obama loves Drama! King Obama for Emperor! Nay, Nay! Make him Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe!

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:58pm

    I think everything should be free, that way we wouldn’t have to pay for anything…………yay

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    • Verceofreason
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:27pm

      We should ALL get the exact same bennies as our ‘work 2 days a week for 3 hours’ representatives.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:45pm

      @Detroit paperboy

      Shades of Star Trek…

      I’m certain that if I showed up up at your restaurant and introduced myself you would not charge me for a meal even though I wanted to pay. I would do the same if you needed your computer worked on.

      These rare events of friendship are common but the progressives want this to be the norm.

      We would all starve it they had their way.

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  • TRILO
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:57pm

    Are you kidding? Henry Waxman motivated the Republicans. First of all the republicans can not get a thing done. Second I am not certain that they will win the House, Senate and WH. 51 votes does not repeal the law because if the TOTUS is still in office he has the veto so they would need a super majority to override the veto.

    If the republicans use the budget reconciliation process as they have discussed to subvert the super majority requirement then they are hypocrites as they screamed bloody murder when the democrats were going to use the process to pass the d@mn bill. Stand on the merit of repealing the bill and do it the correct way.

    I am so sick of the do as I say, not as I do actions of both political parties and the sheeple. Why is it ok if “your’ party does something and not ok when “their” party does the same thing? Where is the honor and principle in our representatives and more importantly with ourselves? Now what comes from Washington it is nothing more than gimmicks and lies! People wonder why we are in the state of decay that we are in.

    Is it just me, or does Henry Waxman look like he is a character straight out of a Dr Seuss book?

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    • GoodStuff
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:58pm

      “if the TOTUS is still in office ”

      He won’t be!

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    • shorelineliz
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:09pm

      Trilo: With a little more hair and makeup he could be the mayor of Whoville.

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  • AmbroseTurdside
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:56pm

    There isn‘t anyone in Washington who doesn’t know this already. It‘s only surprising news to butt sniffers who aren’t politicians.

    SCOTTSMAN: Love your spunk but Ron Paul’s life support cord was pulled after we saw Newt gaining more primary delegates.

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    • Scottsman
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:20pm

      That was back when Hannity and O’reilly were belching their support for every one but Ron Paul, several month ago. Like they did in 2008. Please don’t fall for it again fellow patriot :)

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  • Bernice Durdan-Rowland
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:54pm

    Waxman, you certainly are spewing out the venom – tell your false story to your cat !!!!!!!!!!
    If Obama is so great then why are we all headed down the “rabbit hole” – ??????????

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  • NHwinter
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:53pm

    Do the Liberals/Progressives ever listen to Republicans or Romney??? They will keep some of the now existing benefits and Romney has said work on a new, sensible HC bill. Just more scare tactics. What is really scary is Obamacare and Socialism.

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  • JUSTANOTHEROPINION
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:52pm

    If you don’t remember anything else this November, remember what Justice (turn coat) Roberts tried to tell you, which is (just incase you missed it), “you get what you vote for”,so be very selective this time and pay attention!

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  • v15
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:51pm

    …….yeah…..about all of that. Obama will most likely be re-elected and HE doesn’t answer to the House or Senate. He even threatens the Supreme Court! Best case scenario: Romney wins and gets the keys to the car, but not before Obama has driven it off a bridge and has crashed it into a river below.

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  • TX .338 L Mag
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:50pm

    Here we go down the path of deception. We all know life as we know it is doomed. I would like to think this farce of legislation could be repealed, but alas we are just fooling our self.
    This hype of hope that this can be reversed is just that. HYPE. Be prepared to defend your beliefs and your rights. The race card will be played and those on entitlement benefits will not sit and have what we pay for taken from them.

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    • GoodStuff
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:58pm

      What hype?

      Romney in the White House and 50 Republicans in the Senate is all we need to repeal. Don’t tell Erc Fehrnstrom, though.

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    • v15
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:01pm

      Exactly right. Even when “temporary” laws are passed in emergencies, it usually takes decades to get them off the books.

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    • Verceofreason
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:29pm

      ‘Romney in the WHite house”?
      Stop GOODSTUFF, you’re killing me

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:47pm

      @GoodStuff
      You forgot the most important part…..And they will have to take it up for a vote – which they will never do

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 10:41pm

      @goodstuff
      speak of the devil….look what just poped up on theblaze. Do i need any more proof that this ‘repeal and replace’ thing is BS?
      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/mcconnell-odds-are-against-repealing-obamacare/

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  • LameLiberals
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:50pm

    I vote that Waxman as the FIRST PATIENT of FREE HEALTHCARE get a FACE TRANSPLANT and nose surgery so people don’t get a view of the inside of his nostrils.

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  • Baddoggy
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:49pm

    I wonder how he gets those nostrils so large…You could drive a golf ball through those holes….

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:05pm

      @copatriots
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:45pm

      Agreed…….but there are just so many Dem epitomes to choose from. :-)
      ****
      Did you ever hear of the verb “SNORT” can’t say he has, but it often looks like that after.

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    • chips1
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 10:25pm

      That snot funny.

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    • DIR
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 11:10pm

      Legend is Waxman got those large nostrils when practicing his favorite pass time, getting high off smelling bicycle seats, when a car bumped him in the can and inadvertently knocked him into the bike and shoved the seat up his nostril. It took him quite a while to have it sugically removed. He claimed he like the smell of fresh Corinthian leather, while someone was still sitting on it. Because of the incident his Nostrils are perma huge. However, I am told if you look closely you can still see the seat protruding from his nose. Today to throw him off his game, all one has to do is toss a bike seat in Henry’s general vacinity and. he’ll go orgasmic loosing his train of thought, pick up the seat and stalk off to some darken corner. That’s Henry! By the way, the reason he has that brain dead look is he apparently got a load (whiff) of a seat used by Nancy Pelosi. Anyway that’s what I heard.

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  • Scottsman
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:44pm

    Lets see if this post gets past a moderator. It only takes 5 states to get Ron Paul on the Republican nomination so that there is a real candidate that can actually take on, debate, and repeal Obamacare, As opposed to the other candidate, Mitt Romney, who invented Obamacare. The Repubs are not serious about repeal, otherwise, Fox News would not have put forward Mitt Romney as their Obamacare slayer.

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    • Red Meat
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:50pm

      Boehner: We may not be able to repeal all parts of Otax®
      McConnell: Repeal is a long shot.
      Red Meat: Bend over.

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    • canadianlady
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:57pm

      Oh, grow the hell up, you Paul Bot! Fox News didn’t get Mitt Romney named as the nominee. It was the people who did that, numbnuts.

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    • GoodStuff
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:00pm

      @Scottsman

      RuPaul didn’t win a single state during the primary season. Stop embarrassing yourself. Romney is the nominee. Denial. River. Egypt.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:16pm

      @GoodStuff
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:00pm

      @Scottsman

      RuPaul didn’t win a single state during the primary season. Stop embarrassing yourself. Romney is the nominee. Denial. River. Egypt
      ***
      And hillary and bo think they’ve got it covered with the muslim terrorhood that ron paul would do nothing to stop.

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    • Scottsman
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:17pm

      @CandianLady and Goodstuff, tell me how many people you know voted for Romney in the Repulican primaries in the last 6 months? I can tell you I know of none. How many people showed up at Ron Paul speaking locations? Thousands per city. How many people showed up at Romney speaking conventions, less than a few hundred.

      How many Romney 2012 stickers have I seen? None in my large suburban area. How many Romney yard signs have I seen? None, again. How many Ron Paul Primary voters do I know? 6. How many yard, election signs? 7. How many bumper stickers? a lot for Ron Paul, none for Romney, and a lot for Obamma. How many supporters for Ron Paul? Millions. Just Youtube Ron Paul and Youtube Mitt Romney and see who has the best hits and positive videos on Youtube. Not a perfect litmus test, but relatively accurate. Between the bumper stickers, yard signs, known voters and speaking event turn outs, I think you two need to take a harder look.

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    • chalkdust
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:31pm

      Canadianlady
      Talking to some of the Pauler’s as I call them is like talking to a liberal. Same old predictable posts. And for the Pauler’s, if Paul had won the nomination, and don‘t you dare feed us the he’s still in the race or wait till some court case is decided, if he had won Obama would be guaranteed a second term. His brand of libertarianism is not popular despite what your opinion is of Dr. Paul. Heck, I have a pretty high opinion of Dr. Paul but that doesn’t mean he can win either the primary or the general. Dr. Paul himself said when he actively stopped campaigning that he doesn’t have a shot at winning the nomination but can influence the platform at the convention. Rand said the same thing just recently. It‘s time for the Pauler’s to get a grip on reality and help defeat Obama. Your either part of the solution or part of the problem and right now most of you are definitely part of the problem. Your vote for Johnson, who I like as well, or write in Paul will help Obama win a second term. You’re damaging the libertarian platform and you need to stop it!

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    • Scottsman
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:41pm

      How many of you Romney bot people have a Romney yard sign, bumper sticker on your car, and donated real hard $$cash$$ to Romney’s campaign? Just curious so I know what I’m up against (including the Bill O’reilly and Sean Hannity MSM and their brain washed bots that just kept repeating “he’s unelectable” for the last 7 years).

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    • chalkdust
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 10:19pm

      I’m not a Romney bot Scottsman. The only one that came the closest to my ideal candidate in the primary was Dr. Paul whom I voted for and donated to in the primary. And I’m not a purist like many. I did not decide Paul is unelectable nor did Orielly and Sean Hannity. Parts of Paul’s platform are very popular and others are very unpopular with the masses despite what you or I think. Maybe this will be different in the future but not if you take your ball and go home because you didn’t get to pitch. Right now it‘s more important to defeat Obama and if you can’t see that there’s nothing left to discuss.

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    • Scottsman
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 10:30pm

      @CHALKDUST, I respect your opinion and lively debate. However, you lost credibility in your last post when you said “Your either part of the solution or part of the problem and right now most of you are definitely part of the problem. Your vote for Johnson, who I like as well, or write in Paul will help Obama win a second term. You’re damaging the libertarian platform and you need to stop it!”

      That is what the status quo’ and MSM says. You are not who you say you are.

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  • 4xeverything
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:43pm

    No sweat, Waxman. I’ll take that challenge.

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  • Al J Zira
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:42pm

    Waxman is the epitome of what’s wrong with government.

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    • copatriots
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:45pm

      Agreed…….but there are just so many Dem epitomes to choose from. :-)

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:57pm

      @copatriots
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:45pm

      Agreed…….but there are just so many Dem epitomes to choose from. :-)
      ****
      So many dems, so few honest politicians! Please Lord Send us Your People!

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    • Verceofreason
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:31pm

      I thought that was Rick Sanitorium.
      Who seemed to think the Vatican was his first master.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 10:00pm

      @Al J Zira

      I crack up every time I see your Achmed avatar…

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    • copatriots
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 10:35pm

      @ mil mom

      Amen, Sister!

      @ The-Monk

      Hey…..hope all is well with you!

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  • Scottsman
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:37pm

    I would like to make a correction to the article, it should say “Waxman, in an interview with the CSPAN show Newsmakers, disclosed that if Americans did vote for Ron Paul and real conservatives took control of the House and the Senate, Obamacare would be wiped out.”

    Stop drinking all of the kool-aid. Two sides of the same coin.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:54pm

      @Scottsman
      We had nine candidates running for the nomination and Paulbots said they were all absolutely identical and all neocon, Bilderberg, NDAA progressives who were against liberty, freedom and the constitution. According to Paulbots, Ron Paul is the only conservative politician in the world. How could he occupy the white house, the House Of Representatives and the Senate at the same time?

      Oh, that’s right, Ron Paul is a god. Sorry, I always forget that part.

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    • GoodStuff
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:02pm

      @Scottsman

      I’ve got a good recipe for fetus burgers. Would you like it? Might make a good July 4th meal. Boogy, boogy, boogy.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:24pm

      @qpwillie
      I’m beginging to think you are the one with the Ron Paul divinity complex

      Yes, most of the 9 were different shades of progressive. I dont know why you bitch and moan about it – its not like you want our vote. Just be happy with your Mittens and tell me why he is worth voting for. Personally, i could have voted for Cain, Bachmann, Perry (maybe), or Santorum (maybe) – but you guys let that establishment door slam you in the face

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    • Scottsman
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:28pm

      @QPWILLIE and GOODSTUFF, do you have any thing of substance to say? Can you actually debate on principle? And QPWILLIE, do you have any clear data to back up your claim of “Paulbots said” besides online material that can be fabricated by any one? Impostering as any one? I’ll answer that for you… Nope you can’t.

      @GOODSTUFF, keep your recipe for your liberal buddies. They wil need it.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:52pm

      @soybomb315
      “its not like you want our vote.”

      I don’t need your vote. I’m not running this time around.

      “tell me why he is worth voting for.”

      First, you tell me why 0bama is worth voting for. He’ll be getting your vote via a write-in for Paul.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 9:59pm

      @Scottsman
      I have no proof that you wrote that comment. Maybe someone broke into your house while you were gone and got on your computer. …Or somebody might have a gun to your head, telling you what to type.

      How do you know it’s me typing this?

      We could go on all night wondering if we are us or if they are really them but that would be pretty goofy, wouldn’t it?.

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    • Scottsman
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 10:05pm

      @QPWILLIE, we will write in Ron Paul, and then guys like you who used to cry “he is not relevant, he is unelectable“ will turn around and cry ”it was Ron Paul’s fault President Obama was re-elected”

      I have a reality check for you QPWILLIE, why don’t you fake conservatives and Mitt Romney band wagon hoppers who want Obamacare to stand… just join the only real conservative, Ron Paul, and get him the Republican Nomination? You just can’t keep denying your innermost desires there brother patriot.

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    • Scottsman
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 10:11pm

      @QPWILLIE, maybe you are a Democrat, Socialist, or Green Party and/or work for the Huffington Post, CNN or MSNBC. So? So what?

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  • TulsaYeeHaw
    Posted on July 2, 2012 at 8:37pm

    Dumbass

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