Dems‘ Accusations of GOP ’Secret Foreign Money’ Go Unsubstantiated
- Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:21pm by
Meredith Jessup
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WASHINGTON – The Obama administration and its allies are going all out against the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and GOP-leaning groups, accusing them of using foreign money to help finance political ads. Trouble is, they’re providing no evidence.
The mere idea, lack of proof aside, is part of a Democratic message that tries to tie Republicans to foreign interests and to jobs shifted overseas. On Monday, the liberal group MoveOn.org began airing an ad in Illinois against Senate candidate Mark Kirk using his support from the chamber to link him to foreign corporations that, in the ad’s words, “threaten American jobs.”
And in Pennsylvania, Vice President Joe Biden kept up the attack on the chamber and other groups that are spending millions of dollars in political ads against Democrats without having to reveal their contributors.
“I challenge the Chamber of Commerce to tell us how much of the money they’re investing is from foreign sources,” Biden said during a fundraiser for Democratic Rep. Chris Carney in Scranton. “I challenge them, if I’m wrong I will stand corrected. But show me, show me.”
Republicans suggest it’s more about digging up votes than digging up answers, a sign of desperation by Democrats worried that they’re about to lose control of the House.
“We are seeing an attempt to demonize specific groups and distract Americans from a failed economic agenda,” Bruce Josten, the chamber’s top lobbyist, said after Biden’s remarks. “With three weeks until Election Day, it’s time to return to the discussion that Americans care most about: job creation.”
Using foreign money to pay for political activity is illegal, and the Chamber of Commerce says the minimal amount of money it receives from overseas is carefully segregated from political spending. The chamber says its 115 foreign business councils, known as “AmChams,” pay a total of about $100,000.
“There is no evidence at all that the chamber has done anything illegally,” said Richard L. Hasen, an expert on election law at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles. But he also noted that the potential for impropriety exists with any organization that accepts funds that would be illegal if spent on politics.
To be sure, money that is segregated for other purposes can free legal funds for political uses.
But the chamber is hardly alone. A number of labor unions and advocacy groups that participate in politics have foreign affiliates and overseas donors. By law, these groups must make sure no foreign funds are used to advocate for or against political candidates. What’s more, foreign companies with United States divisions can create political action committees that accept donations from their U.S. employees.
Those foreign-connected PACs have contributed more than $12 million to political candidates this election cycle, with more than half going to Democrats, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan group that tracks political money. PACs must itemize and identify the source of all contributions more than $200.
Nonprofit tax exempt groups, such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, are not required to reveal their contributors. Neither are outside groups such as Crossroads Grassroots Policy Strategies, an organization created this year with the help of Republican strategist Karl Rove that has also become a target of Democrats for its extensive spending in Senate campaigns.
The lack of disclosure makes it easier to mount an attack that suggests either illegality or outsize influence by corporations and millionaires.
“The problem is not that the allegation is not a big deal,” said Hasen, of Loyola Law School. “The problem is that the allegation is not backed by any facts.”
James Bopp, an election lawyer who has argued for fewer restrictions in campaign finance laws, said the administration’s attacks show “the irony of a president who promised to bring us to higher standard who now has gone to the lowest possible standard.”
Hasen proposes that to ensure that organizations involved in politics do not misuse money, the government could undertake random audits that would serve as a deterrent for improper activity. Hasen says such audits would not be made public unless they discovered evidence of illegal activity.
Bopp argues that even the threat of audits for political activity would chill free speech.
The merits of the Democrats case aside, the claims of foreign influence are part of a broader message that attempts to answer Republican attacks that Democrats are not doing enough to fix the economy and improve employment.
“What you have is an effort to buy a Congress that will serve an agenda of big Wall Street banks, the big insurance companies and other special interests that benefit from the offshoring of American jobs,” said Rep. Chris Van Hollen, the head of the Democratic congressional Campaign committee.
It’s unclear whether the tactic will work, and it threatens to place moderate Democrats who have business support in an awkward spot.
At the same time, issues of campaign finance seldom rise to the top of voter interests. And connecting candidates to the chamber and then to the outsourcing of jobs can be a complex message to deliver in 30 seconds. One academic compared it to intricate algebraic number theory.
“It‘s like trying to explain Fermat’s Last Theorem,” Rutgers political scientist Ross Baker said. “I don’t think people are engaged by it.”
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Associated Press Writer Julie Hirschfeld Davis contributed to this article.
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Disturbed Crew
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 11:02pmDem’s, WE ARE NOT AMUSED….
Report Post »WISEPENNY
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:58pmThe Democrats are our biggest threat to our democracy, not the people trying to get you out of the House and Senate. If someone don’t get a hold on this train wreck you call an administration, we are all going to be evicted by foreign lenders. The same day that you find out where the money is coming from, you would be all over them with your crooked politics. I hope you never find out and you lose so much sleep over it that they have to lead you all out in straight jackets after 02Nov10. (Our election to restore sanity that we should make into a national holiday after it’s all over for you morons.) Hoorah!
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 11:19pmWho are you talking about? I am unsure from your post! http://wp.me/pYLB7-dA
Report Post »WISEPENNY
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:06am@WALKWITHME 1966: From what I can glean from your link, I assume your comment is derived from the same delusions being suffered by all you Pelosi and Reid zombies. Read my post again real slow, then listen to the video by “chief brokenaxle” where he tells us all who is the threat to this country. Mr. Beck is not what’s wrong with his (Axlerod’s) reality as he perceives it. Or were you just kidding? BTW, I didn’t sign up for your blog, Dog.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:05am@walkwithme…………….your an idiot
Report Post »Veritas
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:57pmAre you still beating your wife? It is the same type of accusation and premise! They expect you to try and prove a negative! Everyone is right including Bob on Deface The Nation, “Is that the best you’ve got?”.
Report Post »Timmtamm
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:21amDidn’t you know? The way things work in politics is “guilty until proven innocent.”
Report Post »missmarie
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:57pmSurely if impropriety existed in the use of election funds, the democrats would easily be able to point out when, where, how, and why. It is their standard mode of operation, afterall.
Report Post »flyguync
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:47pmAxelrod is pathetic! He talks about special interest groups, yet the White House has a revolving back door for heads of unions, George Soros funded groups, environmentalists, Marxists, etc. Who is he to bash the Republicans or the Chamber of Commerce?
Report Post »RetiredFF
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:52pmI agree, truly pathetic and very hypocritical.
Report Post »RetiredFF
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:46pmTruly amazing hypocracy. But, we’ve come to expect that from the Dems, so it really shouldn’t be any surprise. I guess the biggest shock is how the Liberal Media is handling all this. I don’t know about anyone else, but I find this all rather delicious. It’s fun watching an administration and political party self-destruct right before our eyes!
Report Post »comradekoolaid
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:40pmAll observers not laboring under hallucinations of the senses are agreed, or can be made to agree, about facts of sensible experience, through evidence toward which the intellect is merely passive, and over which the individual will and character have no control.
~Chauncey Wright ~
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:38pmHeadline….“Axelrod Shoots DNC In Foot”
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:29pmWhat about all of the prepaid credit card donations to obamas presidential run? i have no doubt since politians are involved its a shady deal, but shady politicians should throw stones at other shady figures.
Report Post »Beandawg
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:14pmWOW a journalist actually questioning the progressives and their blind accusations. Tip of the cap to Bob Schieffer!!
Report Post »MiddleFinger
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:08pmWOW Truth hurts
Report Post »MiddleFinger
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:19pmC’mon now bring out the story on Byron Williams
Report Post »Capt_Spalding
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:04pmIf this were the other way around and the Repubs were asking (re: pre-election), then they would be shouted down as racists. No doubt about it.
Report Post »This is basically the Dems version of “show us the birth certificate”.
NObama and this whole administration are a frickin’ joke!
CaptainSpaulding
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:02pmThis is what we call “libel” and it’s a crime.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:11pmAnd you are surprised – I mean, totally surprised – right, Capt’n?
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:51amIt’s actually not a crime yet, thank God. It’s just a tort. In many socialist countries, however, it is a crime. We are probably headed down that road.
Report Post »RobR
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:00pmIt‘s just like Barack’s true origins and whereabouts before landing on our shores as a young man……..UNSUBSTANTIATED.
I feel it only fair while we follow the money trail overseas…..likewise we follow the weasel trail wherever it leads……..Hawaii , Indonesia , Africa……..and beyond.
Maybe Barack is so secrative because he lied on his college applications……..he may have falsefied them by stating he WAS an African exchange student…..making it easier to gain access to American Universities.
It would be a real hoot……..not to mention purgery……..if this was what was actually hidden away in Obama’s closet.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:17pmUnfortunately we may never know unless some patriot leaks the information. Obammy has spent more than a million bucks to hide his past. The man is rotten to the core.
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 11:17pmWhat about Bush’s records from school, national guard, etc…being locked away in daddy’s library and not for release. You could be right about Obama but what about the republicans or the conservatives? It happens on both sides. http://wp.me/pYLB7-dA
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:10amBush had a birth certificate. Not so for your usurper hero.
Report Post »swigs
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:28am@walkwithme1966
Military service isn’t a requirement for POTUS. Just ask draft dodging Slick Willie.
And besides ….Bush didn’t have to sign an Executive Order keeping his records a secret his first day in office.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:45amWalkwithme1966 : The Blaze
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Hemorrhoids : Humans
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:46pmIf that book thrower was an old white guy and not one of Obammy’s muslim brothers, would he also have been released without charge?
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:00pmHi freedom:
Report Post »No, frankly he’d would have had the perverbial “book” thrown at him. And you could bet that he would have been “tied” to the tea party somehow, perhaps by just outright lying to the American people. It seems to be the “lefts” favorite tool.
FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:02pm@Betterdays I totally agree.
Report Post »BlazingBlonde
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:46pmIt’s the seriousness of the charge, From the bully pulpit.
Report Post »From the cheap seats, we ask “where did all those donations come from for your campaign, 0bama?” and there is no press, no one to be found investigating how many foreign donations came into the 0bama coffers…..
I hope the Chamber comes out swinging, Just like Americans for Prosperity did!
LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:58pmI think it might even qualify as slander. In the real world they would probably have a team of lawyers circling like sharks waiting to rip the wealthy scandalmonger apart. I say keep talking, this administration is finally becoming transparent.
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:45pmI love Biden “If I’m wrong I will stand corrected.” WHAT?? How ’bout, “If I’m wrong, I will eat Barack’s telepromter.” Now that‘s what I call ’eating your words’! hahahahahaha
Report Post »mrsclark
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:09amI would rather, “If I am wrong, I will resign, since I have yet to be right about anything….”
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:42pmObama shoq where your 700 million came from. Rumors say about 200 million from foreigners. Fair trade of info?
Report Post »Mike777
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:41pmThese democrats are the most sleazy dirty people i have ever seen. God help us please !
Report Post »starman70
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 10:59amIt‘s all BUSH’S fault! Blame it in BUSH!
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:41pmwhat about obamas contribution issues? there is a lot of issues pertaining to where his contributions came from overseas via internet and prepaid credit cards with computational evidence that it came from foreign conributors see links for more information. also obama refuses to give access to contribution information 2 yrs later ……………………………………………………………………………………………………..
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2010/01/28/establishment-media-negligence-08-campaign-enables-obama-foreign-campaig
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/23/john-galt-donating-to-obama-this-year-too-apparently/
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=78309
Report Post »lookn4nrml
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:39pmRush said today on his radio show that they should go first and prove that Obama himself is not a “foreign donation”!!!
Report Post »NoName22
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 11:35pmZiiiiiiiiiiiing.
Report Post »swigs
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:21amThe proof is in his own words. His father is a Kenyan.
He claims to be a Constitutional scholar too bad all those years of liberal education couldn’t help him to properly understand it. He ran for office anyway, turning the strenght of the COTUS against the US.
He’s not entirely culpable. He had accomplices in Congress so they too must be removed.
Vote the bums out in November!
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:39pmAnd where exactly has all the democrat money come from???
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:33pmLUDWIKA BRONISLAWA: There you go, that is the question! Exactly the same accusations could be leved against Democrat’s donations. The problem is SOFT MONEY contributions in political campaigns regardless of their source or destination.
Report Post »These accusations are from stone thowers on the porch of their glass house. Fortunately it is a very weak argument in light of the blow back it has received. Now the American people have a new mark against the fraudulent DNC leadership and their mouth pieces.
Highland
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 7:46amObama received cash from foreigners (most of them named Mohammed or Abdul, it seems) for his 2008 campaign. You always can tell what Democrats are up to by what they accuse the Republicans of doing.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 10:31amRight on, that’s how you always tell what the play ground bullies are up to, you ask them what everyone else is doing.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:37pmWhen your best choice of enemy is The Chamber of Commerce, not much else needs to be said about what you are “for”.
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:53pmI actually heard a woman today say that they are using peoples’ fear of “”"“BIG BUSINESS””"” (gasp!) to get the independents on their side. Using FEAR of big business?? Doesn’t that make them (uh oh!) FEARMONGERS?!?! I think that’s what they call irony, or something. lol
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:07pmLast time I looked, it was “Big Business” that provided people with that four letter W word…..Work.
Report Post »IndianaUSA
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:45pmDemocrats are getting desperate and their stupidity will backfire on them big time for this. The US Chamber of Commerce represents many businesses across this country (large and small). Barry has been pissed at them since they were oppossed to the health care bill.
Report Post »angrymob
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 11:19pmDems are such hypocrites! Didn‘t fox news uncover evidence that the 911 Mosque that’s going to be built (supported by Obama) was funded by two Egyptians who gave money to the Holy Land Foundation (a “charity” that was shut down in 2001 for having terrorist ties).
Tell me which one is worse?
Report Post »starman70
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 11:17amChamber of Commerce, an organization supported by big business. OK, thats fine. It’s the big businesses that the Obama DEMS and their Union lackeys want to destroy. Just like they destroyed the steel industry, textile industry, home TV receiver and other electronics manufacturing companies. Now they want to destroy small businesses by taxing them, their owners and everyone associated with them to death. Cap and Trade, Environmental requirements, Card Check, the inane stupidity of the of the union leadership and the administration is beyond description. Send jobs overseas, then where do your union members come from? Who pays into union retirememt funds? Who will ever find a job in America? Who will be able to buy anything produced anywhere?
I support the Chamber of commerce and these accusations are fraudlent and born out of desperation on the part of the DUMBOCRATS!
Report Post »kiwi1
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:35pmYou First Democrats… Disclose your contributions from Foreign Sources. As a matter of fact lets go back to Obamas Presidential Campaign. To be fair, count all the money that you can’t prove where it came from. That would be a lot.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:11amI think I have seen this same kind of behavior before.
Report Post »In 2008, when D-holes knew they had a lot to cover up about Hussain’s natural-born status, they started the campaign to make an issue about McCain’s birth certificate. When McCain produced all the documents, they started raising doubts about McCain’s health. When McCain made his medical records public, , they raised questions about his campaign’s finances.
And everytime the D-holes and jourNOlisters attacked McCain about an issue and he provided documentation, Obama was never asked the same questions and never asked to produce the same documents.
They wanted to divert attention from Obama’s BC, his medical records, his academic records, his financiers . So they doubted McCain on the same issue and then moved on to a new issue to attack McCain.
Ofcourse McCain was so stupid that he never said ” I’ll show you mine if you show me yours ” and stayed on the defensive.
Now Hussain is making an issue about his opponent’s financing ….he must have a whopper to coverup because D-holes + kneepads media are providing distraction ….look a shiny object !!
Flagwaver
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:35pmWow, so pointing a finger at a group and saying that it is the truth without proof. The accusation taken as fact by others with your party and treating the accused as if they are already guilty because they could not defend themselves the moment you accused them? It’s McCarthy all over again. No, it’s Salem all over again. I say we test them for their improprieties. We can throw them in the water, if they float then we can hang them as witches, if they sink, then we will feel guilty and give them a Christian burial…
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:42pmObama is not a natural born citizen. What more do we need to know? Throw the bums out.
Ironmaan
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 9:45pmObama is a pathetic hypocrite. He received millions from podestas center for amerian progress which does not disclose it’s donors. He‘s so transparent it’s almost disappointing.
FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:10pmMore bowing down in fear to Muslims: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/11/cartoonist-seeing-red-muhammad-cartoon-yanked/
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 10:58pmThose that point the finger has three of their own fingers pointing right back at themselves.
Report Post »snowleopard3200
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 11:13pmOnce again the same old tired song and dance of “Blame, blame, blame…“ and ”Tell lies just big little lies…” by now you think they could come up with something original…wait, that is right, all they really seem to know is that they think Americans are STUPID!!!
Prove them wrong America, vote this November for who YOU chose to.
http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (mixed art)
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 11:21pmSo if I read you guys right, Obama should shut up about the chamber of commerce because he has no proof, and then point to a bunch of stuff about Obama that YOU have no proof of. Typical republisheep behavior.
Report Post »TheyTookOurJOBS
Posted on October 11, 2010 at 11:55pmThey took oour jobs!
Report Post »TruthTalker
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:00amprovide proof or shut up
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 12:47amPathetic. However, it’s a very serious thing to do. It seems this is a clear case of abuse of power. Hopefully when the Republicans take over the house they can investigate and if there was no evidence, bring those that leveled the baseless charge to justice. If we don’t demand jail time, these criminals will just keep abusing power. We need to hold them accountable. Are you listening Republican leadership?
Report Post »Robert W
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:37amDoes he have eyeliner on?
Report Post »solaveritas
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:49am@EXREPUBLISHEEP: Get this right. The President, AND the Vice-President, AND the DNC ACCUSE the Chamber of committing a CRIME, without a single shred of evidence. They do it on national TV.
And you think there is parity between that and a few citizens commenting about how the President is hypocritical since PACs supporting him did not disclose donor lists? Really? Those are equal?
And there IS evidence to back the suspicions about Obama. LIke the lady who had donated a total of $175,000 to Obama’s campaign in 2008 (per Obama’s records) but, when contacted, the lady said she had never donated any money. Now, no accusations of criminal activity were made against Obama then, but at least there was evidence upon which to comment.’
The President disrespected the Justices of the Supreme Court when he commented on this issue during the state of the union address (where he lied about the law and Alito noted it), so I guess we aren’t surprised he continues to lie about the Chamber of Commerce.
Obama, quit lying. Obama, until you have evidence, SHUT UP!
Report Post »Timmtamm
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:19amProof is not exactly what we need. First we need facts. Facts lead us in the direction of the truth, and closer to proof, but do not to a sure proof. State the facts and then give an opinion, just like Glenn does. Glenn has provided us many facts. Every opinion he proposes is based first in facts. Obama and his lackeys, though, have not even given any substantial facts for everyone to look at, just baseless accusations. Give us the facts!
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:27amduring the 08 election we were told the rest of the world hates GeorgeBush and the republicans. Now we are told to believe by the democrats that the same countries that hated the republicans 2 years ago are secretly funding republican campaigns. Do the democrats even think things out before they say them?
Report Post »thesixfour
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 7:19amLet us not forget – cost of Obama’s 2008 campaign – $1 BILLION
I bet all that money was “legit” – heres a hint – GEORGE SOROS one of the biggest crooks alive.
Report Post »Blackhawk63
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:12pmTHIS WILL ALLOW THEM TO TAKE OVER SMALL BUSINESS!!!!!!!
Short Term: They have a machine that has no one to attack. That is why they NEED to know who the donors are.
Report Post »Long Term: They will attempt to cut off all funds from then then “Save” them because they are too big to fail.
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Posted on October 13, 2010 at 12:55pmObama is taking money for Democrats from China to pay for their campane adds.
Report Post »The Chi-Coms are paying all of Obama’s bills. They pay most of the staff of BO’s staff.