Dem’s Largely Symbolic Tax Cut Measures Fail
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As expected, Senate Republicans have blocked two pieces of legislation that would have allowed taxes to rise on upper income taxpayers and small businesses on Jan. 1.
The vote Saturday on a measure that would have kept the cuts in place for incomes under $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples was defeated when the vote turned out 53-36, seven short of the 60 needed to advance the measure. Another measure that would have kept the cuts in effect except on incomes over $1 million was defeated when a 53-37 vote also fell seven votes short of the necessary 60.
With the votes complete, real negotiations between the White House and Republicans can start on a bill to extend the tax cuts at all levels. That’s because many saw the vote on the measures as largely a political statement by Democrats.
“Democrats wanted to show where they stood,” Politico reports, “and only after they did that could they begin to accept the inevitable outcome, a temporary renewal of all the Bush tax cuts, rather than just those for the middle class.”
“It became apparent the second time we met that actually there weren’t going to be any bipartisan negotiations to reach a decision until there had been a political catharsis on the Democratic side,” said Jon Kyl (R-AZ), who is charged with leading negotiations. “We’ve been very congenial with each other, but it’s been very clear that we’re not going to be negotiating anything until all of this political process is over with.”
Those negotiations are expected to include discussions on renewing expiring jobless benefits for the long-term unemployed.
In comments Saturday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid made sure to demonize high-end earners and businesses in the wake of the failed measures.
“The majority of the Senate like the majority of the country believes the middle class deserve this tax cuts,” he said. “The minority of the Senate, against all evidence to the contrary that millionaires, billionaires and these big CEOs who ship jobs overseas deserve this giveaway.”
“We feel you should not raise taxes on anyone during a recession,” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) responded.
Reid is hopeful an agreement between the two sides can be secured by late next week.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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AngeldLovesGlennBeck
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 2:25pmThe Democrats need to raise Taxes on $250,000 and up to Pay for Harry Reids Dream Act!. To steal the money of American Citizens. And to pay for their government control agenda!
Report Post »Mikee T
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 2:34pmDream Act is dead………#uck that liberal #rick ………… It’s time to start kicking some politicians / bureucrats #sses…… The private sector is dead because of intrusive government regulation, control and manipulating………I’m sick and tired of being a “Second Class Citizen” like here in good old NJ…
Report Post »fireball522
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 2:20pmWhat I never hear asked or answered is why do all these polititians (democrat and republican) believe that they have a right to monies the American people earn. These polititians need to cut spending on many of our so called social programs that really server to enslave the general population and make us rely on the big brother government. What ever happened to self relience and getting off your duff and doing what’s needed to support ourselves. Government has gotten so bloated and has so many people believing they can’t surive without some sort of government program. Our founding fathers never intended for the government to support the population we would not have a Republic we would have had some sort of dictatorship.
Report Post »Mikee T
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 2:31pmIt‘s not that people in this country don’t want to work …bud… It’s that our illustrious Federal, State and Local bodies of government and the “spin off” work that government controls (you know….non-profits….big unions….gov unions….big union gov. contractors….etc…etc..) decided THEY COULD control who gets to work and who gets to make any money…..that’s why… Intrusive government is to blame….overthrow is the only way…massive government rollback….start over….I’ll take my chances…
Report Post »fireball522
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 5:56pmMy inference was not that people didn’t want to work it is that our bloated gig brother government is doing everything the progressives can think of to make our people dependent of government to surive. Many Americans are ready and willing to work but when unemployment benifits extend for 99 weeks people are encouraged to stay at home, look a little, and whine about not finding the perfect employment for themselves. Even in the town I live in people are finding it more profitable to stay on unemployment or get on wellfare than actually go to work. Thus Government is instilling in them I must depend on Government to exist.
Report Post »Angel D
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 2:07pmExtend the Busch tax cuts for all!
Report Post »Mikee T
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 2:24pmI favor a repeal of the tax code and subsequent disbanding of the I.R.S….and the Federal Reserve….Next, I would propose a tariff based tax system on goods and services purchased in America…period…. It would force the millions that do NOT receive income on the books to pay MORE of their fair share and is the ONLY way to police it……. You will buy what you can afford ..period… The rich will automatically pay more taxes because they can afford BIGGER STUFF!! Case closed…..no more whining and bickering…and save zillions by disbanding the IRS….
Report Post »AngeldLovesGlennBeck
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 2:29pmMikee T: You are right!
Report Post »beckfan828
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 2:07pmfor years the dumbecrats have been saying the bush tax cuts were for the rich..If the middle class didnt get tax cuts what are they talking about…These lying xxxxx should be run out of washington..Dont compromise anything..Its all or nothing..When Januray comes and we see our paychecks we will see the benefits of those tax rate cuts and this country will be livid…We began draining the swamp this 2010 election and we should continue till we get the right people in washington..
Report Post »Mikee T
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 2:03pmThey (libs/dems) are not interested in doing anything that will stregthen our economy or our nation…. They have (progressives) destroyed our currency, housing and job market all at the same time and it WAS ENGINEERED that way……… Barney Frank and Co….. can’t be that stupid….they have to be that evil though…..think about it……..no parachutes for middle class america (which is mostly those awful racist conservative white people) but their wall street and banker buddies and their fellow politicians and bureacrat buddies ? They are all ok….while we struggle ….the worst struggle I have seen in all my years….53 years….It’s time to revolt and I mean NOW !! Overthrow all of these scumbags…kick them to the curb………They aren’t done yet either….Just appropriated billions and billions more for black farmers and indians…..this is “Get Whitey”….period…….
Report Post »shorthanded12
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 2:00pmJust wander who over at the shadow government better known as the Federal Reserve is pulling the strings on this politcal stunt? Barry is already on the record as saying if tax cuts are allowed to expire he has big progressive plans to spend that money and not pay a dime on the national debt.
Simple one page regulation if the tax cuts were to expire which would state
” All additional tax money collected after Jan 1st, 2011 will go directly to decrease the National Debt.” This regulation will be signed by all Congressional and Senate Members with POTUS being the Ultimate Authority. This Regulation will be in effect and cannot be compromised, altered or amended until said Debt is exhausted.
NO need for a bill or regulation in this country to be 1000, 2000 pages. anything beyond 5 pages just means special interest and corruption is involved. The complete disregard for the American people has got to STOP.
Report Post »eyestoseeearstohear
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:58pmOBAMA has been PURPOSELY WRONG ON EVERYTHING.
EVERYTIME he explained his URGENT NEED for $$$$$ or doing whatever, IT NEVER WORKED.
And, he soon learned to just come back and ASK FOR MORE…..IT WAS A SLOW-BLEED TECHNIQUE…..ask for it, get it, admit your figures were wrong, ask for more, get it, blame Bush, say the problem was MUCH WORSE THAN EXPECTED, AND REPEAT THE PROCESS….
All the while, and little by little he‘s BROKEN THIS COUNTRY’S FINANCIAL RESOURCES….
THEN…..he started BORROWING AND PRINTING $$$$$$…..
HE CAN’T BE THAT IGNORANT AND WRONG ABOUT EVERY SINGLE THING.
IT’S INTENTIONAL…..
The ONLY ignorance he has, is to THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON’T SEE THAT.
Report Post »But, HE and HIS CROOKED BUDDIES…..HAVE HELPED TO ACCOMPLISH THESE FAILURES….AND THEY ALL KNEW/KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING, TOO!
beckfan828
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:57pmAdd your comments
Report Post »Angel D
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:53pmFlat Tax for All!
Report Post »shorthanded12
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 2:05pmAbsolutely 100% in agreement. That would catch the Dayum ILLeagals that are paid under the table to pay there fair share.
Report Post »BRAVEHEART
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:52pmLying and stealing has saturated our National Consciousness and many Politicians have been doing it so long they can no longer distinguish between stealing and lying and honorable truthful behavior. The notion that they are saviors of the people and only the Rulers and masters in washington D, C. can save us is ego-insanity. Their constant compulsion to steal our income through inflated taxation and act like they can in all their elected glory magically resolve every ill and discomfort affecting us is insane.These glorified demagogues need to be brought down seriously down out of the supreme clouds they have been occupying far too long. I think many of them are not now and may never get the message the people sent back in November. We can’t allow them to continue any longer, restraining these idiots is our greatest challenge.
Sorry for the ranting
Report Post »Braveheart
tradexpertbuysell
Posted on December 5, 2010 at 9:23am@BRAVEHEART
This will be very painful to write but if it will serve to turn a nation back to God, here goes:
I like the name Braveheart. It also reminds me of another title The Patriot where the fictitous character Benjamin Martin repented for previous atrocities but was compelled by the same conscience to fight again.
I likewise have a guilty past having helped a friend get an abortion. At the time I though I was being noble to the lady in trouble but this sin has been on my conscience for years and the only small relief came when I gave my life over to Christ.
Now with Obamacare covering abortion I have contemplated refusal to buy when it comes that time in trade for jail time.
The whole reason for bringing this up here Braveheart, is A) to let you know your rant is justified and B) to take the opportunity to underscore the current moral bankruptcy of this administration and congress that along with their losing touch with the “saturated” nature of their lying and stealing does have other tragic impacts on the moral fiber of this Nation of which I find myself a tragic part of.
A futther footnote on Obama in his not sticking up for abortion survivors is one last graphic example that struck me hard a couple of months ago. It was a report in regard to his calous non-involvement to protect the lives of abortion survivors and refusal to stand in the gap. It was about a report that survivors at a Miami abortion clinic were put up on a hot roof of the clinic in garbage bags to die. This note I bring up because this probably was the very same clinic that I drove my friend to for her abortion! God forgive me! God forgive us all. In the 60s and 70s this nation grew quite insane with its materialistic standards and pleasures while turning our backs on God. Maybe by this humble and painful confession as others review their past for similar past sins and repent and daily get on their knees we can submit for HIs forgiveness so He will thus heal the land of the current scorge of a fight that have been going on since the progressive movement really took off almost 100 years ago and finally reverse the insanity and lack of political restraint!
Report Post »eyestoseeearstohear
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:48pmAside from this being EXTREMLY IMPORTANT….I must say, I find it sort of funny that the DEMS are NOW looking like Deers looking into headlights….crying and complaining ….BUT THE BEST THING (SO FAR) is that they CAN’T GO IN A BACK ROOM, CUT A DEAL AMONG THEMSELVES AND COME OUT AND RAM IT THROUGH.
I for one, am GLAD the REPS ARE HOLDING GROUND…..
They ARE RIGHT….this MUST include the Millionaires because THEY ARE THE JOB CREATORS…NOT WASHINGTON.
Obama said today, they couldn’t AFFORD the cut because they NEEDED THE INCOME from the upper class money makers….and I thought, “YOU SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT WHEN YOU WERE ON THAT FRIVILOUS SPENDING & GIVE- AWAY SPREE….
I don’t remember WHERE it was, but there was a building in THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, HARDLY USED BY ANYONE…AND OBAMA GAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO IT TO EXCHANGE THE “WINDOWS”……ANOTHER LOCATION IN THE MID-WEST, WHERE HE GAVE MILLIONS TO INSTALL “BIKE RACKS”….THAT THE TOWNS PEOPLE SAID NO ONE USED THEM.
Obama KNOWS that if TAXES GO UP ON THE RICH….JOBS WILL BE KILLED EVEN MORE…AND IT WOULD THROW A KLINKER INTO HIS OVERALL PLAN OF “ DESTROYING THE FINANCIAL SECTOR”….WHICH WOULD DELAY, PROLONG OR DESTROY HIS “ CONTROLLED COLLASPE” GOAL.
STAND STRONG REPUBLICANS….DON’T BACK OFF ON THIS!
Report Post »koyettsu
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:44pmIt doesn’t matter at this point, Republicans should refuse to sign anything Democrats try to do. Come January real work can start being done, than in 2012 after we toss out the rest of the traitors in Govt. we can begin fixing all the damage done.
Report Post »reconmarine
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:36pmPeople are losing their jobs and homes, filing for bankruptcy and the Dems are making symbolic votes to appease their base. Totally disgusting. The American people are tired of their games and dumped them in November. The rest will go in 2012 along with Daddy O.
Report Post »Polish_Sensation
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:23pmGood job by the elephants, thanks to Tea Party pressure they have stood up for the core values of hard-working Americans. The lesson that should be taken is to keep treck of what’s happening in the country and to voice our opinions. If we become Zombies again we will be taken advantage of again.
Report Post »rdk
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:15pmChances are good that this Congress will punt. What they should do is to extend the Bush cuts for two years, then allow the presidential candidates to argue about taxes. When Obama has left office, the Bush cuts can be made permanent.
Report Post »MikeinIdaho
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:14pmTypical posturing and political BS. Nothing new here folks, except that We the People are not as dumb as the Marxist Party would like to think we are. Schumer is full of crap, just like the rest of those lying pigs.
Report Post »Republicans, don’t stop the “NO”! We’re behind you and EXPECT that you will do the right thing for your bosses (that’s US!). Don’t listen to the BS from the enemies of the State in the Democrat Party, because we’re not listening to it either. Go with your gut and do what’s right for America. If it takes until after the new Congress is in session, so be it.
megaman
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:12pmcome on democrats extend all the bush tax cuts
Report Post »dont ****** me bro
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 8:19pmWhy, what is the argument for extending them for the over 250K crowd…the following has been soundly debunked:
1. it will increase jobs (how has it been for the last 10 years)
Report Post »2. Laffer Curve – please, not even community college economists believe that any longer…even Greenspan came out against the basic tenets.
Sgt.Crust
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 9:24pmYo Bro, you seem to think the unemplyment rate (falsely reported) at 9.8% has been that high for 10 years? Your figures are wrong…unemplyment jumped in 2008 (2 years), and the real unemployment rate is 23% (if you include those people not counted by the govt or the U6). But to answer your question. Most small businesses hve income in the $250K range and higher, so if you let them keep more of their hard earned money, they would hire more people and invest in their company’s to grow, simple simon. Now, to further explain the last two years of not hiring, it is called ‘uncertainty’. Meaning, businesses don’t know what the full effect of Obamacare is going to do to their pockebooks, AND business STILL don‘t really know for certain that their taxes won’t go up. We had a crash in 2008 in case you missed that small fact, where credit froze up, and our economy almost completely went belly up. So they cut expenses (people) to save money, so they could at least stay open. Then there was the little thing called Financial Regulation, which further is supressing investment. You add all of that up and that spells contraction in the economy, due to uncertainty that any investment will pay off, whether it be buying new equipment or adding new workers. Does that answer your question? If not I’ve got nothing for ya, go on back to camp!
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 9:48pmOh and Greenspan is a fool, who did not see the 2008 crash coming in the first place, and he created the easy money, that led to the housing bubble bursting. And while I am at it, all the liberal one celled amoebas blame it all on Bush. Let’s go back to 1977 CRA law passed, which mandated all Americans own a home, how noble, but how stupid. It decoupled the price of housing from the CPI, which started the housing bubble, then Cuomo created the NINJA loans, and Bill Clinton removed the barriers between investment houses and banks. Effectively creating easy loans to people who could not afford them if the rates went up (which happened), and investors bet incorrectly that housing would NEVER lose value. Now that is a recipe for disaster, which has befallen on us! We will be lucky, no, make that, it will take a miracle, if we get out of this financial mess without defaulting on our debt ($54 Trillion today – see USDEBTCLOCK.ORG). Now, I do not put all the blame on the ********, because progressive Rhino’s also contributed to the mess. This is no longer about left or right, but about SURVIVAL. BTW, don;t call me a *********, you are a moron for saying that,
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 9:57pmHey Bro, what no witty retort? No facts to discredit my arguments? That is because you have but one brain cell, please get out the magnifying glass to search for it. Go back to school and learn about finances and economics, ok! It is people like you that is part of the problem, ignorant to the facts, and absolutely clueless about the way the USA works. Get along little doggie…
Report Post »tradexpertbuysell
Posted on December 5, 2010 at 4:21amTROLL ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Tea Bag I think people are ignoring you and rightfully so. We’ve all got it. You’re the kind that can actually strut sitting down.
Have a nice day! We worship your superior intelect. No really, we actually do! But if you feel like keeping it up go ahead. We all need a good laugh.
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:10pm15% flat tax on any money made at anytime, any where and by anybody in the United States, including companies in foreign countries. Easy to understand and calculate. Tim Giethner and “Tax Cheat” Charlie Wrangle could understand it.
Report Post »CrankyInCranberry
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 5:22pmI agree with a flat tax. If everyone is taxed the same rate, then there is no inequality! After all, isn’t that what the Progressives are all about – leveling the playing field?
I also agree that it would make the tax code easier to understand and apply. Might put H&R Block out of business, though.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:00pmIf the dems were truely about helping the middle class they could start by listening to us. NO tax hikes in a bad economy.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:07pmIf they all wanted to make a good impression, and a serious one at that, they would take a severe pay cut (say 50%) in addition to the tax cuts and spending cuts. Now THAT would get everyone’s attention.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:21pmMost of those guys are making money on other endeavors anyhow and if they were really serious they would go ahead and suspend thier pay entirely for say, one year. How many of them are millionaires without a penny from the taxpayer?
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 12:56pmCommon sense alone dictates that having more money for people to invest and spend will lead to a faster recovery; get the government out of the way of the people helping the recovery come about.
I still find it curious that democrats and Progressives seem to fail to understand that one million dollars is written with 7 figures (1,000,000) not just six (200,000). Must be more of the fuzzy math thing.
Report Post »DagneyT
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:29pmExcuse me, Snowleopard, but progressives haven’t used common sense in over 100 years. Why would they start using it now?
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:43pmduh Common sense hummm now thats something new in Washington,totally agree with you snow even a dummie like myself knows what common sense is and when it should be applied
Report Post »dont ****** me bro
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 8:16pmwhat does the 6 or 7 figures thing mean? I missed that.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 12:55pmOK guys this is WWWAAAAAAYYYYYY off topic but you remember Ryan Newell ? The guy arrested for stalking WBC? Go back to the end of the comments on that story and a guy posted some facebook info to contact the judge and make donations.
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:04pmFor bail or defense fund?
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:18pmTher were a couple of different things on there.
Report Post »tradexpertbuysell
Posted on December 5, 2010 at 4:07amOK Kate
We love riddles but I suggest you make your comments self contained here since as you admit you are way off base. First off after a quick review of your references what’s this got to do with current topic. I consider myself fairly intelligent but I don’t see any connection ironic or otherwise so spell it out so that the rest of us morons can understand and have a dialogue with you.
You need to make your observations more self contained here so that others can follow you. I know you‘re trying to be like Glenn Beck but you’re a tad bit too esoteric.
Report Post »ILOVEGLENNBECK
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 12:54pmHurray!
Report Post »roberja
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 12:54pmWow! Why couldn‘t those breakaway dems have found their courage earlier to defeat other Obama’s bills?
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:02pmThey did not learn anything until after their buddies got their butts spanked. Now those brave dems are trying to save their own jobs. Hope everyone here remembers to get rid of them, too.
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 2:15pmThis wasn’t about the bill or any common sense measures to fix the deficit.
Report Post »It was about Class Warfare and securing votes from the parasite class.
grandmaof5
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 12:52pmThank God the voice of reason has prevailed. Stand strong, senators, and your chances of not getting voted out in 2012 will go up dramatically (of course this is just one issue but you hopefully will look at the “big picture” and the economy with begin to turn around).
Report Post »tradexpertbuysell
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:19pmIF WASHINGTON WERE ALIVE TODAY:
He might say in the pattern so astutely and achedemically laid out in the masterful works of Peter A. Lillback’s “Sacred Fire” Chapter 29 the following:
I am “confident” and reliant “that providence” has taken a “hand” in promoting prosperity to yet again “frustrate the enemy” and “advance” the debate to give aid and relief to all income levels to preserve this great republic.
Note: This in light of the vote Saturday on a measure that would have kept the cuts in place for incomes under $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples was defeated when the vote turned out 53-36, seven short of the 60 needed to advance the measure. Another measure that would have kept the cuts in effect except on incomes over $1 million was defeated when a 53-37 vote also fell seven votes short of the necessary 60.
And in my own words praise God! I am confident all classes will be protected and it is further hoped the barbaric death tax will also go down in flames that money or rather wealth will protect small businesses which wealth will be passed unmollested and without further agressive government control from generation to generation!
Report Post »tradexpertbuysell
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 11:50pm@dont ****** me bro
Cool it! I think we’re all on the same side (except I’m a little suspicious about your name which sounds like a troll label). Yes it would be good to get a real tax break. And you are right in your perception regarding just limiting the discussion to that.
However, what the response in the Senate is is push back on the chicken crap maneuver in the house were debate on 200 to 250K earners was being stiffled. Had this thing gone forward in the Senate as is it would have been a triumph for the class warfare bull crap agenda.
What Grandma and I are both hoping and praying for is now that debate can be resumed (as it should of been in the House before the vote) that maybe some sanity can be restored and spending also get addressed as well as a tax break to all levels (unless of course we are talking about the uber-rich like Soros) to encourage free markets at all levels to A) Know where health care costs are going wind up after January 1st 2011, and B) That big government is going to stop trying to rape everyone that can create jobs and those seeking work.
Don’t blame Grandma for the convoluted mess in Washington. Instead focus your ire at DC and demand positive results or else and let these career elites know that their political days are numbered if they don‘t start addressing the economic issues and don’t stop playing games with We the People.
Report Post »DagneyT
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 12:51pm“$200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples”
As my hubby pointed out, this amounted to a marriage penalty. Why was it not $400,000 for couples? Just sayin’
Afterall, the keyword is “symbolic”.
Report Post »aafriend
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 12:57pmA MESSAGE TO WASHINGTON
Please put the self interest, ego and pride aside and practice some humility. Please stop the political mind games. We the American people have common sense. Let’s please get to the truth.
THIS IS THE POLITICAL SOUND BITE WE WANT TO HEAR FROM WASHINGTON IN THE COMING WEEKS
FROM REPUBLICANS
To current administration: trillions in spending, unemployment at 9.8 %, your policies and ideology have failed. Please don’t tell us that the rich are the problem and that raising there taxes is going to correct the failures of current policies and ideology.
FROM THE DEMOCRATS
To current administration: Our policies and priorities have failed to date. We have lost an important election and the American people have spoken. We are now ready to try it another way.
Who cares to have the courage to humble themselves in front of the people of this great Nation?
Stop playing pentie antie with our lives and our children
Stop trying to confuse us. This is a we Nation, not a me Nation.
Report Post »->Click For Brain Enema<-
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:11pmlets stop spending and stop taxing for 2 years. it couldn’t do more damage then the last two years of spend spend spend.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 1:41pmDemocrats … ?symbolism over substance” … that should be their MOTTO!
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 3:01pmProgressives have never been in favor of marriage, that’s probably why so many of them cheat on their spouses (ie Bill Clinton.) They really don‘t believe in anything that’s meaningful such as God, family and country.
Report Post »aafriend
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 4:03pmTHERE IS A LOT OF SIMLPLE COMMEN SENSE THAT NEEDS TO BE APPLIED TO ALL OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS CURRENT GOVERNMENT. FOR THE SIMPLE MINDED AMERICANS THAT WANT IT STRAIGHT WITHOUT A LOT OF MIND GAMES HERE IT IS.
In sports you have two teams,
You have two head coaches playing each other,
You are expected to win and give the fans what they paid for,
If the two teams that are playing have an o and 3 record the fans don’t buy tickets and the head coaches are fired. If you don’t fire the coaches the teams finish last and the attendance goes down.
The American people have stopped buying tickets to the game between republicans and democrats, the stadium is empty, its time for change.
WOULD YOU BUY A TICKET TO A BAD FOOTBALL GAME, WOULD YOU BUY A TICKET TO GO TO A BAD MOVIE
WOULD YOU BUY A CAR IF THE REVIEWS WHERE BAD
WOULD YOU SEND YOUR CHILD TO A UNDERACHIEVEING SCHOOL
WACTH THE OTHER HAND, WATCH THE PHONIE SMILES.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 5:43pmFunny how easy they passed S 510
Neocon nwo just like the Dems
The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers.
Report Post »Carroll Quigley
jzs
Posted on December 5, 2010 at 12:02amThe Democrats tried to extend the Bush tax cuts (which ballooned the debt) for 98% of Americans. And everyone here is happy that it failed. Pathetic. It’s brainwashing I guess – you say your for the “average American” but clearly you support the millionaires and billionaires at the expense of the rest of us.
During the last quarter made the highest profits on record, Wall Street bonuses are at an all time high. The rich are getting richer. And their hiring more, any more than they did when the tax cuts went into effect in 2000 (which lead to a four year period where job growth was less than population growth). And here you are defending to the death their right to make even more money while the majority of Americans are hurting and many are about to lose everything they have. Nice, guys. Brainwashed, and pawns of the rich.
Report Post »CCulotta
Posted on December 5, 2010 at 1:41amSecretly the democrats are cheering. Now they can let all off the tax cuts expire and blame all of it on the republicans. You have to remember that this is chess, not checkers.
And JZS, in response to your being for the “average American” comment, I’ll tell you straight up that I am not for the average American. I am for all Americans. That includes the 2% of Americans that you are not for. I find it disgusting that you see no problem with singling out a portion of society and then bringing the full force of the government down on them because they are in the minority. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Report Post »NEAF
Posted on December 6, 2010 at 9:50pm1) They want to encourage divorce and destroy the family foundation.
Report Post »2) The government will lose income.
3) Common sense :)