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Despite Ignored ‘Deadline’ FL Pastor Cancels Koran Burning

Update: GAINESVILLE, Fla. — An acquaintance of the pastor who once planned to burn copies of the Quran to mark the 9/11 anniversary says the Rev. Terry Jones is headed to New York aboard a Friday night flight.

K.A. Paul, a Christian evangelist who runs a ministry in Houston, says he bought the ticket for Jones to fly out of Orlando and land around 10:15 p.m. in New York. Paul provided The Associated Press with a copy of the itinerary and flight confirmation number.

Jones has said he planned to meet with the imam overseeing a proposed mosque and Islamic center to be built near ground zero.

Paul says Jones was able to sneak out of his Gainesville church without the media noticing.

Earlier Friday, Jones’ son, Luke, said that the Quran-burning won‘t take place Saturday but couldn’t say whether there would be a future event.

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After a two hour call deadline from Florida pastor Terry Jones to NYC Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf was ignored, the embattled pastor at the heart the Koran burning controversy has agreed to call of tomorrow’s scheduled event.

“I want to be clear and confirm one hundred percent that there will not be Korans burning tomorrow (Saturday) at 6:00 pm as was planned,” Jones’s spokesman Pastor K.A. Paul said, according to Sky News. Instead, Jones would like to meet with Rauf to find a “peaceful and noble” resolution.

At approximately 1:20 pm ET, Jones and Paul announced two telephone numbers during a press conference and said that Imam Rauf had until 3:20 pm ET to call and discuss whether in fact the Imam is planning on moving the mosque slated to be built near Ground Zero. At that time, neither Paul nor Jones said what would happen if their challenge went unanswered.

Now, it appears that Jones has backed of his once hard-line commitment to burn Korans on the anniversary of 9/11.

Earlier in the day, Paul did admit that while legally Jones has a right to burn Korans, it is not the right thing to do. He reiterated that statement once the deadline had passed.

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  • auntbea
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:43pm

    “Don’t burn it. Read it.” – Malkin

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    • Stupid Windmill
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 9:51pm

      Hope to god its not Machile Malkin.(Sp?) That woman is not a very good person at all. I find her most distasteful as she resorts to the bizarre to attract attention to herself under a false shroud of Patriotism and Nationalism.

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    • Bic
      Posted on September 11, 2010 at 8:47am

      “Don’t burn it. Read it.” – Malkin

      Then burn it.

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  • derekcrane
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:40pm

    What is the big deal with the burning of the Koran? If I remember correctly, the Moslems burned 3,000 of our people nine years ago. Let’s put things in perspective. derekcrane

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    • Stupid Windmill
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 9:49pm

      Its a big deal to burn the one of the ultimate holy symbols of Islam on the last day of Ramadan.

      Damn, some people.

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    • Spring To Action Vote
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 10:33pm

      Way back in the 70’s The cowards of the conrun (this does mean total disrespect for the cowards in the middle east and there so called holly jacka** alli )from iran captured Americans and held them while the cowardly peanut farmer said please give them back. Well in Houston Texas some of these cowards decided to protest in downtown Houston. Well that was when real Americans stood up and chased the middle eastern cowards into a building where they called for help. The mayor of Houston said that night if you chose to protest that is up to you. It is your chose but you need to remember you are in America and if you say foul things to the people of Houston while burning our flag. Well then you are protesting at your own risk. Houstonians while not stand around and let you say these things and try to burn a flag here. Point when is enough is enough. It is always amusing to hear woman in America defending this religion. I ask well if you are for it? Then why is your face not covered and don’t leave the house with out A MAN you know. Be stupid don’t go to school stay home cook and clean. Do as I say . ect. Ect.

      The point is they have been burning our bibles our books our flags dummies that are suppose to be a president . What goes around comes around. If I had one I would throw it in the garbage at least it would not warp the mind of someone else. They hate you people on the left, they hate all our values and our beliefs. Oh and let’s not forget they have no problem with men being together it doesn’t happen there. Cause they kill them just like a woman that does her man wrong. It can’t be a religion and speak of hate to fellow man. I think he never was going to burn it. Gov pays $40,000.00 dollars for them to come and start a store. I thought we were suppose to earn it.

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  • annieoakley
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:27pm

    RE DEBRABATE: These so-called Muslim friends will be the first to kill you if they can. They kill their own children, frequently.

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    • poppopschell
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:41pm

      Annie, you are correct. Any enemy idf Isalm can have a FUTWAH placed on thgeir life. Anyone who carries out the Fatwah receives a promise of paradise. That ias in the nature of main stream Islam.

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    • CherryBomb
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:46pm

      Shhhh. Debrabate’s feeling all good about herself. Don’t remind her that a muslim man in Dallas honor killed his two teenage daughters for being “Westernized”. Last time I checked, Dallas is in TEXAS.
      BTW, has anyone noticed that Obama has not been burned in effigy during the latest round of muslim outrageous outrage?

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    • lindafell
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 8:22pm

      Cherrybomb,
      Great point about burning obama’s effigy. I don‘t think I’ve seen it done yet. Mkae one wonder why…

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    • Stupid Windmill
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 9:46pm

      Disgusting, stop with these awful generalizations.

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  • puck30
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:21pm

    Drudge has links to three more partors that said they will burn the Koran. Again, somebody explain to me why we are over there?

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  • Conservative Democrat
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:17pm

    Hummmm, kinda makes you wonder if the “church” has all of its tax records in order, Or perhaps a sudden “audit” of the people and pastor who attend. Maybe a veiled threat of revoking a tax exempt status.
    Or on the other hand , what would happen if you had a book burning and no one showed up?

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  • cynderella
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:16pm

    the muslims have a 100 year plan to take over America and the world!!!
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news
    http://www.keepingapace.com/…/islamic…/islam_republic_of_america_100_year_plan.php -

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  • NC
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:14pm

    I”m surprised it has taken nine years for someone to make this claim to burn qurans.

    Now that the proverbial genie is out of the bottle, it’s only a matter of time before this fire is truly ignited.

    NC (knows books do not burn easily)

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  • 123halle
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:14pm

    I don’t know something is up .

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  • Thunderstorm 316
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:13pm

    Terry Jones did the right thing by not burning the koran and now the world has shown it’s ture side.

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  • BeHeardAmerica
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:10pm

    FL Pastor Cancels Koran Burning, MEANWHILE they start chopping head off in Middle East!

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  • dimc31788
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:09pm

    Yes, there is a Holy war going on…but while there is a physical war being fought on this earth…the real fight being fought is an unseen spiritual fight. The Bible says we don’t war against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities in heavenly places. We need to quit spewing so much hatred with our mouths and get on our knees like our old grandmas and grandpas did and win this war with prayer. I know this statement will not be popular but that’s ok. I know it‘s right and it’s, at least for me, what God has called me to do. Christians can NOT ever hope to win unsaved people to Christ without using Kingdom principles. God is love, not hate. In the natural, I think some of God’s rules are a bit sucky, but they are HIS RULES and He has called us to love our enemies. That was the last commandment He gave us through Jesus. He said we are to love our neighbor as He has loved us. I don’t believe He sent out a memo saying that was no longer in effect.

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    • poppopschell
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:32pm

      DIMC: Christ taught us to forgive and love within the context of peacefully bringing them to Him By witnessing for Christ to even our enemies shows the depth of our love. BUT, try to do that in an Islamic nation and you will find yourself in prison or even dead.

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  • rolandg79
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:56pm

    If this pastor backs down now! Muslims will see this as weakness and proceed with more demands. Just listening to the Imam rauf Is a threat. thugs talk like that to send a message not so bluntly. Alot of Americans are unable to comprehen this kind of threatening words IS because theyve been TEXTEN sense birth.

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  • lindafell
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:52pm

    They called off the flag burning and they are still protesting. They say the damage has already been done just by threating to burn a quran. Just shows that giving them what they want does NOT work. Anyone hear about the persecution of Hindu‘s by the muslim’s in India? Why isn’t that in the news? I guess no one wants to offend this “peaceful religion.” People are kidding themselves if they don’t think a holy war is going on, it never ended for islam…..

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    • poppopschell
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:21pm

      Linda” and it NEVER will. To do so would cast aside the Koran. The Islamic world has been relaitively“silent” for many centruies since the fall of the Islamic world govt. But they are very patient and committed to force Allah upon everyone. And the PTB and MSM are their partners in the deception.

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  • unionrockstar
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:50pm

    This issue would never have been an issue if our President had not taken it upon himself to support the rights of building the Mosque and then turn around and condemn the burning of the Koran.
    Did anyone protest when our government destroyed Bibles that were sent to the Military in order to not offend the Muslims?
    I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS PASTOR, however, why did Obama go out of his way to defend Muslims rights and then go out of his way to condemn this Pastor. It appears our President leans toward the Muslim faith (Hopefully I am wrong)
    Can not one else see this

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  • smithfix
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:46pm

    The threats will never stop. The intimidation will never stop. What will it take? Perhaps a nuke from Iran floated into NY harbor? I wish it were DC. Then maybe we could push the reset button on common sense.
    Look at Europe they are toast now and we will soon be.

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  • United_Ignited
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:45pm

    The world just showed their cards on a bluff!! Who is tolerant? Did this put our troops in harms way? They are on the battlefield, maybe this will bring the cowards (al qaeda) out from behind their human shields. The real danger to our troops are their rules of engagement.

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    • Zoe
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:16pm

      Yes- Rules of engagement–!

      What’s putting our troops in harms way?

      How bout we burn the rules of engagement if they aren’t corrected?

      Media stop reporting on this garbage & let’s give what respect we can when it comes to 9/11 -

      Is there an aspirin factory being bombed somewhere we should know about-? There’s a man behind a curtain somewhere & we all watching a parade with Natasha & Boris Badenov!

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  • vennoye
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:44pm

    This entire episode, to me, has only pointed out how much the American people are being DECEIVED by ALL news media and the government about the “Peaceful religion of Islam that has been hijacked by a FEW radicals.” If that were true, why were ALL of our embassies put on alert, why are ALL Americans living overseas at risk, why are there riots in Afghanistan over just the THREAT to burn the Qur’an, why did both our top General and the Administration have to get involved over this bonfire? LEARN WELL WHAT YOU ARE SEEING AND HEARING WITH YOUR OWN EYES AND EARS! The FEW in this religion is not the radicals, it is the moderates. When the religion has enough of a “stronghold” here, the Moderate members of Islam will be as expendable as “The People of the Book” (Christians and Jews).

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    • poppopschell
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:13pm

      EXACTLY. There are no moderate Muslims IF, IF they truly believe in and live out the teachings of the Koran.

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    • vennoye
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:25pm

      By the way, in the ancient Hebrew pictograph language (the language the Ten commandments were given in at Mt. Sinai) the word peace meant “Destroying the control/authority that is causing chaos in your life“ The definition of peace in Arabic means ”Submit” The Hebrew meaning is pretty easy to understand when you consider it spiritually–don’t think the meaning changes when you get to the natural.

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    • poppopschell
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:37pm

      Venn, with allo due respect in all my studies of the Old Testament, I have NEVER run across what you said about the meaning of Peace in the 10 Commandments. I beleuve the very word Islam is to submit. Jihad on a personal level means a war within yourself but also a war with non-believers.

      Do you believe that destroying others for NOT being believers is part of Christ’s meaning of peace?

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  • donbcg
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:41pm

    I agree that this guy has not gone anywhere. The media said they would not cover it. So, say your not going to do it and guess who shows up to cover not doing it. I suspect it will either be him or the other 3 saying will do it.

    I do not condone in any way what this guy did. But, I empathize with why he is upset. Untill we have conquered radical islam, they should be held suspect. If they truly were allies then the muslim community would be in uproar over the absolutely insensitive display at ground zero. They would have come out on 9/12 and said these people were bad and should be punished. Yet as we sit today, they have never fully admonished the action.

    With that I share no sense of goodness toward the nation of islam. Their actions speak to the true nature of their motivations.

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    • poppopschell
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:10pm

      What those who haven ‘t actually read the Koran and how Islam used violence to “convert” people, don‘t realize that the Koran itself proposes twerrorism to those who won’t accfept Allah. Do your homework. The3re si no moderate Muslims IF thyey really beleive and live the Koranic teachings.

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  • solvitur ambulando *** Deo
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:32pm

    These are very strange times.I am concerned by a very uneasy feeling… a gut feeling I can’t explain. I am very thankful that the pastor has decided not the burn the koran….but there is also something very very wrong with this whole situation. Something is out of whack.

    Michelle Malkin offers an interesting perspective: Shhhhhhh, we’re told. Don’t protest the Ground Zero mosque. Don’t burn a Koran. It’ll imperil the troops. It’ll inflame tensions. The “Muslim world” will “explode” if it does not get its way, warns sharia-peddling imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. Pardon my national security-threatening impudence, but when is the “Muslim world” not ready to “explode”? http://townhall.com/columnists/MichelleMalkin/2010/09/10/the_eternal_flame_of_muslim_outrage
    One one level I agree with her… Enough is enough. When will enough be considered enough? Never, it would seem. I do feel this pastor does have a right to do what he was going to do, but if it endangers others, does he still have that right? I don’t know. I find interesting comparisons between his right to burn and the Iman’s right to his “park 51”. When can you be so right that you are wrong. I am very concerned about “hate” being so freely thrown around as a label. Also, this pastor is criticized, but WHERE IS THE IMAN through this whole thing. His silence is extremely loud. We paid him to represent us to the Islamic world. How come he has not been loudly, boldly declaring to the Islamic World not to incite to violence over this incidence. His silence to the world speaks louder than any thing…. and do not think it goes unnoticed by the World. He is speaking in his silence. He may make a small statement at some point…but his statement if it were made would be too little too late, and would that even be deliberate. No… there is something very very very wrong going on. I feel it in my gut…and I have learned to pay attention to “gut feelings”. What ever happens tomorrow, this Iman from NYC is significantly responsible…not because he isn’t moving his Park 51:45-47 but because he is loudly proclaiming a message to the Islamic world thru deliberate silence.

    There was a reference to another article made in another series of postings. I do encourage people to read it. It is very interesting and terrifying in its implications. We in America forget the power of symbols although we continue to be manipulated by them all of the time (ie: Obama iconography, even the new 10.2.10 symbol). The symbols associated with this new “cultural center” aka “bridge” are extremely significant. Please do read about the symbols associated with “Park51:45-47. I sent a chill down my spine as I read the article.

    “Cordoba House” changed its name to Park 51 which is odd since the address of the location is 45–47 Park Place.

    Look to the Koran-the book of islamic conquest, to understand the odd name for this “project”.
    Koran CHAPTER 51, Verses 45-47 explains all:

    51:45 And they were unable to arise, nor could they defend themselves.
    51:46 And [We destroyed] the people of Noah before; indeed, they were a people defiantly disobedient.
    51:47 And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.

    The numbered Koran verses celebrating the muslim conquests match up to the Park 51: 45-46-47 address.

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/islam_center_eerie_echo_of_ancient_iRTMW6TprkULnaA1Nqi9xM#ixzz0zA4r0vYU

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    • redneck
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:48pm

      Read VanHalen 51:50 Code for Crazy

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    • donbcg
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:51pm

      Wow. Okay. So what if you are right? I am truly asking. What if their is bad intention on the imams part? What do you think is that intent.? I am concerned.

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    • setusfree2012
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:33pm

      Do you have a link to an article that references the significance of the address, as you mentioned? I read the article that you posted the link for, but it didn’t mention that. I’d like to do some further research and share it with friends. Thanks!

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 10:21pm

      I’ve seen this silly post about the symbolism before, and I thought we had all moved past this.
      Chapter 51, verses 45-47 of the Koran are spoken by “Abraham’s honored guests”–meaning three angels that visit Abraham. Verse 45 refers to some tribe that God smited (I forget which one, there were so many!). Of course, 46 refers to the great flood in which God drowned the wicked (the people of Noah’s time) and spared the ark. This story should already be familiar to you. So it is the angels who are the expanders of heaven in verse 47.

      So, yes. Maybe these verses are symbolic. They tell stories shared by Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Perhaps those verses were chosen as “common ground.”

      Or, I suppose we can just be goofy and take things entirely out of context and with no attempt to understand.

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    • patriotwoman
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 10:55pm

      This “Imam” did respond. Watch his interview from Larry King Live. He claimed that they couldn’t move the mosque now because it would cause an explosion of violence in the muslim world and be a risk to the “National Security of the US”. What no one has bothered to ask imam rauf is why HE STARTED this whole thing in the first place. He claims he never knew it would cause this kind of trouble. He didn’t think it through.

      Well, he knows what the muslim world is like, he’s one of them. So yeah, he knew what he was starting. And you are exactly right. He has never bothered to try to calm the situation down. He WANTS the violence on both sides.

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    • RM Brand
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 11:44pm

      @ACD
      We either have Constitutional rights or we don’t. Should the Pastor burn the Koran? No. But does he have a right to do so? YES!

      People burn our flag all the time. They strip down naked and demonstrate for animals. They walk around with mutilated effigies of our presidents while shouting expletives. Should they do it? No. Do they have a right to do it? YES!

      A free society isn’t conveniently free or graced to us. It is our natural right to be free. And in that free society people are equally free to fail as they are to succeed. They are free to be morons as equally as they are to be great. That’s the beauty of freedom. A person is free to live a productive life or be a moocher. The choice rests on the individual. Only when you violate the natural laws of other people is arrest or censure warranted. Otherwise, if you don‘t like what’s going on, leave the area, close your eyes, or turn away. Or offer an alternative argument with rational, objective reasoning. If that individual can’t grasp axioms and/or basic human decency, walk away and leave them to universal laws of cause and effect.

      @ patriotwoman
      I am with you there! This Imam needs to pony up to his contribution to the situation. If he’s so worried about our national security and our troops, why can‘t he be sensitive to those in New York who don’t want his what-ever-you-want-to-call-the-mosque-thingy? Imagine what a gesture of goodwill it would be to listen and compromise.

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  • RightWingKookTank
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:32pm

    Good, but look what you started, you ignorant boob. The loons are coming out of the woodwork all over the world. So…thanks for that.

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    • poppopschell
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:01pm

      Yes and this shows all thinking people that Muslims are filled with harred, revenge and violence. The good Pastor has enabled all to see the truenature of Islam: it is a violent religion who wishes to use force to bring the world under subjection to Allah.

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    • RightWingKookTank
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:41pm

      @poppopschell “Yes and this shows all thinking people that Muslims are filled with harred, revenge and violence. The good Pastor has enabled all to see the truenature of Islam: it is a violent religion who wishes to use force to bring the world under subjection to Allah.

      I kinda figured “thinking people” were already aware that RADICAL “muslims are filled with hatred…” (all 60 -100 million of them…the estimates vary).

      It’s not just the loons in other countries that are “coming out of the woodwork”, it’s also the freaks here. 1) Florida (this story), 2) Wyoming (another loon planning to burn the koran on the steps of the Wyoming capitol tomorrow), & 3) Kansas (westboro baptist church planning to burn the koran AND the U.S. flag) & 4) Tennessee freak (burning the koran tomorrow & posting on YouTube “immediately after wards”).

      Protester plans to burn Quran on Capitol steps
      http://www.wyomingnews.com/articles/2010/09/09/news/18local_09-09-10.txt
      Shirley Phelps-Roper 9/11 Koran Burning Interview – Terry Jones, Dove World Outreach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC9H7JHqnJw
      Springfield Pastor Plans To Burn Quran
      http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=13129871

      “Thinking people”? I think not. You can think so. I don’t.

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  • daverag
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:30pm

    It doesn’t matter, Muslims have already attacked churches and military bases in “retribution” for the non-event of the Koran bonfire.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/7993979/Koran-burning-protests-claim-first-victim-in-Afghanistan.html
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bonfire-of-one-mans-vanity-2075472.html

    You try to reason with the criminally insane and you will get hurt.

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  • thepatriot
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:28pm

    I’m glad that they have decided not to do this. Christians need to show that we are above what muslims in other parts of the world do. Kind of reminds me of what you would say to a child. “Well, if Timmy jumped off the bridge would you?” Just because it happens over there, doesn’t mean we need to do it over here in America. Same with the GZ mosque. They CAN do it, but they shouldn’t. They are still going to , so now we really know what kind of people they are and what there agendas might be, as we can certainly point out that they are NOT reconciliation and a coming together of religions.

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    • edward51
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:48pm

      I am tired of turning the other cheek. I ve said it before, the time is coming near to take matters into our own hands. It will come to this. If they want to come after me I am full loaded and ready.

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  • Debrabate
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:28pm

    too little, too late.

    you know some whack-a-doodle out there will still do it.

    this guy got in way over his head and is desperately looking for a way out. I kinda feel bad for the guy, but he never should have done this to begin with. He got his 15 minutes of fame and should quietly drift back into the woodwork.

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    • poppopschell
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:05pm

      Debra, what have you done personally and publicly to expose the violence taught in the Koran. It’s easy to codemn and take pot shots from the sidelines. This wasn’t the right way to do it so what do you suggest specifically?

      These folks are committed to violently taking over the world for Allah. Wait until you see what happens when Sharia Law comes to your town. Ask Europeans especially in France and England what they’ve experienced from this “peaceful” religion. Don’t fall for the lies of the politically correct folks.

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    • Debrabate
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:16pm

      With all Due respect… I live in TX… an armed state is a friendly state LOL!

      They already see us as weak. Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about it. As for me stopping Muslims… I have no desire to to do so. I have many Muslim friends. We agree to disagree and are thankful that the live here where Sharia law does not exist, that is why one of my friends actually came here… for the safety of US. So please dont lecture me.

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    • poppopschell
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:27pm

      Debra, ask your Muslim friends if they believe every word in the Koran is the word of Allah and must be obeyed? Sharia Law is NOT in the Koran but world conquest through violence if needed for Allah is. Do they believe that all parts of the Koran MUST be lived to make one a faithful Muslim?

      My comment about what you’ve done or not done is simply in response to your condemnation of a Christian Pastor who rightly or wrongly was attempting to alert a sleeping America. Don’t let anyone convince you that the Koran is a peaceful book. As Glenn Beck says, do the research for yourself. I have. The spin of moderate Muslims doesn’t hack it once one knows what is in the Koran and the actions of Muslims in spreading their religion through conquest and violence.

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    • Jcannon98042
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 9:45pm

      Pop,
      I really hate to break it to you. But Islam is not the only religion that believes it is o.k. to conquer for their god. You know, Christians kind of do it to. So do Jews. Have you even read the old testament. How many times that God’s people have been called to defeat the non believers, to bring people to god. So please, stop with your hateful comments. Islam is a religion of peace. However, Islam is also corrupted by radicalists, who sadly are the ruling power. But Christians have radicals too. Pastor Jones being one of them. Islam in itself is a good religion, just the people themselves are bad, but hey so are the christian people and the Jewish people.

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    • Vil
      Posted on September 13, 2010 at 4:47pm

      Poppopp – You are a bigot and an idiot. Many Muslims do not prescribe to that type of behavior. Stop painting them all with the same brush.

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  • Freelancer
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:27pm

    For some reason, I don’t believe him at all. I think he will spring a burning on the media since he seems to be a media whore. I hope he won’t but he does not seem too awful honest to me.

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  • Beckofile
    Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:26pm

    No need to burn anything. He got so many of the leaders in this country and the loones over seas to show exactly who they are and what is in their hearts.

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    • Hobnob
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 5:32pm

      Did anyone see the pastor with a Quran, the Iman called his bluff.

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    • danglingbags
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 6:51pm

      WE ONLY HAVE TO THANK RIGHT WING MEDIA FOR THIS FIASCO. AND IT IS TOTAL BS THAT YOU OTHER RIGHT WING WHACK JOBS TRY TO LINK THIS TO THE MUSLIM CENTER IN NY. THERE IS NO LINK BETWEEN BUILDING A PLACE OF WORSHIP AND BURNING A HOLY BOOK. I HEARD THAT ONE PERSON IN AFGHANISTAN DIED TODAY IN VIOLENCE DUE TO THE PLANNED KORAN BURNING. SO I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY TO pastor jones, fox news AND ALL YOU OTHER WHACKOS ….NOW HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS. HOW DOES IT FEEL.
      I HOPE JONES BURNS IN HELL.

       
    • GrandLakeColorado
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:07pm

      Leave it to us to not see that the pastor decided to turn the other cheek. His misguided attempt at justice was just that, misguided.

      While the muslim believing world at large collectively and routinely issues fatwas condemning others to death, burns images of world leaders in effigy, burns the U.S. flag, beheads those who chose to grow beyond their system of beliefs, and perpetrates countless other offenses to human rights. This man felt compelled to strike a blow in the other direction.

      Suddenly we who routinely watch our own flag burned on television, who watched a religiously guided maniac kill 3000 plus people, suddenly we are aghast at the thought of a preacher of the christian faith getting fed up and burning a book. Sure he is wrong, even by the very principles that he probably teaches on Sunday. But who are you to be so offended now. Where was your outcry when they burned our flag, when they beheaded Christian converts (recently, not in the 15th century), when they routinely send operatives into our midst to create converts or havoc.

      Thanks preacher for turning the other cheek, again and again and again, etc.

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    • danglingbags
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:18pm

      Would it be offensive if I burn for heat the 100 copies of Overton Window I just bought at the Book Clearance House @ 5 cents a pc?

       
    • 79USMC83
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:29pm

      On Sept. 11,2001 JIHADISTS burned down the WTC’s,Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania along with 3000 Americans. America and the world were shocked but many Muslims danced in the streets. A radical pastor in Florida wants to burn a book and it is the American public that is outraged. The FBI is sent down right away. Where was the FBI while American troops funerals were being protested by the so-called Christian Church. No one will be dancing in the streets if he does this.One thing is for sure many of us are not going to be crying over it either!!! Already though he is being threatened and the American flag is being burned. The media spins the story as usual . It is all about the PASTOR!!! Wrong !! The story is about JIHADIST and the SHARIA LAW pigs!!! Someone and hopefully it is not one of our troops will be killed today in the name of ALLAH and SHARIA LA W!! Where is the POLITICALLY CORRECTNESS when you need it from the media?? JIHADIST and SHARIA LAW come from the KORAN. Not some pastor in Florida,not the Palistine State issue or any othe Western policy. Imam Rauf and the RADICAL MUSLIM’s want it to become a “HOLY WAR” What the pastor is doing is playing right into their hands. Great soundbites for the Muslims to use to preach JIHAD!!!

      Rauf’s statement said. “We are not going to toy with our religion or any other. Nor are we going to barter. We are here to extend our hands to build peace and harmony.” LMAO!!!! You are doing a GREAT job of it!!!! We see right through you!! Either you are afraid of the RADICAL’S or you are one of them!!! You want PEACE and HARMONY then say the Mosque will be moved out of respect for the victims of the WTC’s. This JIHAD started way before Sept.11,2001.

      Always Remember “The Peacekeepers” 241 Marines KIA on Oct.23,1983 in Beirut,Lebanon while they slept by an Iran backed Hezbollah JIHADISTS!! and all the others killed by your PEACEFULL religion!!

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    • Rock Knutne ND
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:32pm

      We only have to thank the MAIN STREAM MEDIA for this fiasco and it is total BS that you other LEFT WING WHACK JOBS try to link this to the righteous and just opposition to the unwise location of the MUSLIM JIHADIST RECRUITMENT CENTER IN NY. There is no link between building a place of terrorist recruitment and burning a holy book in the unenlightened mind of a left wing nutcase. I heard that NOT ONE person in Afghanistan died today in violence due to the planned Koran burning. So I have one thing to say to Pastor Jones, CNN, MSNBC, the Main Stream Media AND ALL YOU OTHER LEFT WING WHACKOS ….ONLY THE PROGRESSIVE LEFT AND THE ACLU HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS.

      We’ll continue to pray for you all.

      I took the liberty of editing your post… I fixed the grammar and the nonsensical ALL CAPS typing too.
      I meant it about the prayers though.

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    • whitaker
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:37pm

      @dangling
      Cordoba House changed its name to Park 51 which is odd since the address of the location is 45 47 Park Place.

      Look to the Koran-the book of islamic conquest
      Koran CHAPTER 51, Verses 45-47 explains all:

      51:45 And they were unable to arise, nor could they defend themselves.
      51:46 And [We destroyed] the people of Noah before; indeed, they were a people defiantly disobedient.
      51:47 And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.

      The numbered Koran verses celebrating the muslim conquests match up to the Park 51: 45-46-47 address.

      also take a look at this is NYpost:
      http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/islam_center_eerie_echo_of_ancient_iRTMW6TprkULnaA1Nqi9xM

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    • usmcflyr
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:41pm

      @ DANGLINGBAGS, While I vehemently disagree with Pastor Jones and his Koran burning scheme, I don’t think he should be held accountable for the actions of a few lunatics on the other side of the world who chose, on their own, to deal with an unfortunate crisis through acts of violence. Let everyone be accountable for their own individual actions and stop blaming third parties for the stupid acts of others. As if the pastor placed a gun to the Afghans’ heads and forced them to beat each other into oblivion. There is nothing more degenerate in a society than people who do not take responsibility for their own actions and excuse their pitiful behavior by citing the behavior of another (lets get out of the playground folks).

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    • FiveFreedoms
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 8:07pm

      danglingbags you seem to think that the words of a few free Americans is the cause of death in Afghanistan. Really? I bet you think that women who are raped cause it by the way they dress or walk. The fact is the loss of life is caused by the individual doing the killing. The pastor is a frustrated American who might perceive the insensitivity of the NY Imam who is pushing the Ground Zero Mosque as a blatant example of the bully like behavior of many Muslims that is not countered enough by moderates. Pat Condell has an excellent piece on YouTube that explains it much better than I could.
      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/pat-condell-on-ground-zero-mosque-is-it-possible-to-be-astonished-but-not-surprised.html
      The right wing folks have nothing to do with this, it has nothing to do with right or left. You seem like a seminar caller or hired blogger just spewing vicious hate as exemplified by your death wish for this man.

      If someone read your post and killed him would you have blood on your hands? I didn’t think so.

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 8:15pm

      dinglbags is very dishonest. Most consevatives and his so called right winged media were against the koran burning. i would love to see the left wing media show the same vigor defending a flag burning or bible trahing.

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    • danglingbags
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 8:28pm

      FiveFreedoms

      1) Right to Marry First Cousin
      2) Right to Burn Cross
      3) Right to Sodomize
      4) Right to Buy Gold from Goldline
      5) Right to be Gulliable

       
    • RM Brand
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 8:33pm

      @danglingbags

      There’s no reason for your diatribe. To suggest that any violence from the Middle East is linked solely on the burning of the Koran is to insist those committing the crime of said violence have no volition. That they are mindless zealots without a brain to process all the complexities involved with introspection. I assure you, many are educated individuals with the cognition to understand the moral implications of taking another life. Its those who do not think, who are intellectually lazy (not to mention morally devoid) who insist on perptuating violence under the guise of religion or god. Its wrong. They know it. Its evil. They know it. Its hypocritical. They know it. They just don’t care. Its an excuse to be lazy morally and intellectually. Plain and simple.

      So please try to argue something based on reality and not fiction. Might serve you better.

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    • LJ_4_JESUS
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 8:41pm

      I was wonder danglingbags are you a Muslim?

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 8:41pm

      Dinglehopper… ARE YOU KIDDIN ME? Blood is on Jones’ Hands?

      BULL CRAPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!

      Those freaks over in the middle east don’t know how to act. They protest with freakin guns???
      That’s ALL on them. Frikkin idiots.

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 8:46pm

      For all anyone knows, this could all have been a ploy by Jones simply to expose them and if that were true, it sure worked.
      Everyone is responsible for their own actions. Jones merely PLANNED a book burning… didn’t even go through with it and the loonies still go nuts.
      WAKE UP AMERICA—they hate us. And they want to kill us!!

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    • Gigantopithecus
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 8:48pm

      Dangling**** – everything you have said is a flat out lie or utter nonsense – but then you are a limp **** libturd so that’s about what we expect from you.

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    • ThePatriotsFlag
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 9:28pm

      The News Media “owns” this one. Whatever blood is shed over this ridiculous “non-event“ is on the hands of a News Media that took nothing but TRIVIA and hyped it into an ”Islamic Frenzy”. People will die from this “non-event” and after the DEATHS are counted and reported, the media will move on to another NON-EVENT and cause more death and destruction. Rush Limbaugh has pegged them correctly as the Drive By media. A whack job with a 50 person church in the middle of Florida becomes international news because he’s burning a book? C’mon people … there’s got to be something more important going on out there. Shame on the Drive By’s … if we don’t hold them accountable, maybe God will?

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    • Kster
      Posted on September 10, 2010 at 11:58pm

      @ danglingbags

      In truth there is a link between the Imam and Mustache Man (as I like to call him). There are a group (majority) of Americans/New Yorkers that don’t want the mosque built for the following reasons: One, wounds are still fresh. I don’t know if you feel like many of us do but this gigantic area is a national graveyard where devoted Muslims…well you know the rest. 2. This Imam speaks of “building bridges” and “peace” but shows us that his bridges will not be built under the beams of tolerance and understanding. 3. He has past spoken out as a supporter of Shariah and many questions are rightfully raised on funding matters. And no those questions will not cease. 4. Hamas and Al Qaeda will see it as a victory and fight and recruit harder and stronger. In short it is obvious that I am opposed the construction of the Cordoba House (for many more reason than I listed)
      There are a group (majority) of Americans/New Yorkers that don’t want the Koran burned for the following reasons: 1. Greatly disrespectful to Muslims who sought for freedom here to turn around and see there old country in war with the new. 2. Tolerance has been ruled out once again. It seems to be a lost condition between these two men. 3. Yourself and the Imam said people will die.
      I am opposed to the burning of the Koran.

      However I want to make this clear. Blaming conservatives like me for the deaths and violence that has been occurring in this religion for the past 1400 years is not acceptable nor the truth. I want to let you know and people who think like you, that the false blame and total inaccuracy you shed will not fly. My son will not be raised to feel an ounce of guilt for something he has not done, You can save the undeserved guilt for your own child.

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on September 11, 2010 at 12:02am

      That’s ridiculous. I can’t stand the media, but if someone burns the bible I’m not going out killing people over it. Ok? There’s such a thing as personal responsibility. There’s such a thing as human decency.

      Reasonable people don’t go around killing people over an offense to your religion. If the Muslims are so convinced that we‘re ’Infidels’ how about they trust in their god and let his judgment decide things?
      But no, they take things into their own hands and respond with recklessness. The blood is not on the media’s hands. They report news no matter how trivial you may think it be. And maybe it was. Maybe it was something that needn’t be reported. Maybe it was irresponsible? That doesn’t excuse radical reaction.

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    • American_Joe
      Posted on September 11, 2010 at 12:41am

      The leaders of our country from NY to Washington DC are all hypocrites. They just about beg this pastor not to burn the Koran because Muslims view the Koran as holy and sacred. Mean while the family of 9/11 victims views the site where this Imam wants to build his Mosque as holy and sacred but no one ask the Imam not to build.

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    • A Man For All Seasons
      Posted on September 11, 2010 at 3:20am

      Ok danglinbags 1. He said himself it is directly linked and all the liberal news shows said the same thing. 2. Get a life. Thank god now if only that damn imam would come out of his own little egocentric world trying to spread sharia law. Which he wrote a book about spreading it here and in the book title in arabic it specifically states that the mosque on ground zero is part of that plan.

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    • 79USMC83
      Posted on September 11, 2010 at 7:26am

      God Bless Our Men And Women in the military on this September Eleventh. God Bless the innocent victims and their families on this day of Remembrance. WE will never forget those who were lost and those who volunteered to protect America!!

      John 15:13 ” Greater love has no one than this. Than to lay down one’s life for his friends”

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