Did Debate Help Romney Solidify Leading Position in New Hampshire…and Beyond?
- Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:40am by
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New GBTV contributor David Brody:
Some observations: Clearly, this was a debate about who is going to be the “Anti-Romney” candidate. Meanwhile, Romney smiles the whole way through like a Cheshire cat. The gloves didn’t come off tonight but expect a different outcome in South Carolina next week when Romney won’t be on his home turf.
Candidate breakdown:
Mitt Romney: In the spin room after the debate, Romney surrogate and big hockey fan Tim Pawlenty told me that Mitt Romney is like the Wayne Gretzky of this presidential field. And you know what? After tonight’s debate it’s hard to argue with that. None of the candidates really laid a glove on the frontrunner and would it have mattered anyhow? He looks so calm, cool and collected out there. No wonder the Obama White House is worried. This guy is a machine with facts and prose. It was another winning night.
Rick Santorum: I think he did extremely well tonight because he didn’t get angry at the attacks by Ron Paul and was able to articulate a strong defense of his conservatism. He had a great moment when talking about the dangers of radical Islam which evangelicals will love but his even better moment came when he explained that Mitt Romney’s use of the words “Middle Class” was inappropriate because as president he wouldn’t invoke class warfare. It was a beautiful stroke to weave that line into an overall message about his blue collar working roots and then he transitioned into an eloquent explanation about why he could beat Obama and be an excellent Commander-In-Chief. He did himself proud tonight.
For the rest of Brody’s analysis click here.
National Journal’s Ron Fournier:
The only five men standing between Mitt Romney and the Republican presidential nomination took a walk Saturday night — attacking each other and the media as the former Massachusetts governor coasted toward the brass ring.
Romney came to the debate threatening to run away with the race, and left the stage just as strong. Maybe stronger. He faced surprisingly little criticism from his flailing rivals, and answered their punches with sharp jabs.
Rep. Ron Paul called Rick Santorum corrupt. Santorum called Paul a liar. Paul called Gingrich a draft dodger. Gingrich accused the media of bias and actually praised Romney for “a good (campaign) message.”
Gov. Rick Perry suggested that he would send U.S. troops back to Iraq, prompting disbelieving moderator George Stephanopoulos to all but challenge his sanity: “Now?” the ABC reporter said.
The closest Romney got to making news was opposing the Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion. He also supported contraception. Yes, contraception.
“Contraception, it’s working fine,” Romney said. “Leave it alone.”
Oh — Kathryn Jean Lopez has a good question — click here to see it.
If you had to pick a nominee to face President Obama solely on the basis of tonight’s debate –a nd not just the president but the combined forces of the MSM supporting him, like ABC’s moderators — it would surely be Romney, which tells you who won, and decisively.
None of the candidates except Paul had a bad night, and Rick Santorum solidified his clear status as the alternative to Romney, but the much-anticipated Newt attacks on Romney barely materialized and indeed there isn’t even a memorable anti-Mitt line from the entire affair, unless it was in Chinese and hasn’t been translated yet. The former Massachusetts governor was poised, funny, informed, and demonstrated again and again the key media skill that will be needed between now and November: The ability to turn the MSM’s questions back against Obama, to call absurd questions on their face, and to constantly elevate the immediate inquiry to the higher question of the country’s direction.
The big winner tonight was Mitt Romney for one simple reason: No one laid a finger on him. Romney repeatedly turned his fire on Obama while all the non-Romneys fought with each other. Paul called Gingrich a draft dodger. Perry called Paul a hypocrite. Paul called Santorum a big-government conservative. And Romney just stood back and watched it all. Whenever the moderators asked him to join the fray he demurred and turned the discussion toward Obama.
He even went after the moderators for asking a “silly question” and when asked to criticize his rivals said everyone on the stage would do better than Obama. The irony is that that was Gingrich’s role in the debates a few months ago — now Romney has appropriated it.
The big loser tonight was ABC News.
Find out why here.
Daniel Horowitz at Red State calls it, “The Biggest Mistake of the Worst Debate”:
Let’s face it: the ABC News New Hampshire debate was the worst debate of the entire election cycle. And that is saying something, considering the sheer volume of debates. How many years and election cycles will it take before Republicans learn to turn to conservatives as moderators for presidential debates, instead of washed up Democrat hacks disguised as journalists?
Now, to the extent that such a pathetic debate is worthy of any analysis, the clear winner was Mitt Romney. Watching the debate, you’d think Ron Paul was the frontrunner. All of the verbal altercations played out between Ron Paul and one of the other candidates. Romney was able to sit pretty throughout the entire debate, except for one monologue from Santorum at the end of the debate. Undoubtedly, the platform for the debate, along with the inane questions, wasn’t exactly conducive to attacking Romney’s liberal record as governor. However, they all had an opportunity during the opening salvo of the debate. They failed miserably.
Michael Barone at the Washington Examiner:
At about 10:28pm tonight, as Mitt Romney pivoted from a question on tax loopholes and started in with, “the real issue is vision,” I had recorded this thought in my notes, “He just clinched the nomination.”
Romney said, as he often has, that Barack Obama has put America on the road to decline and is trying to make America more like Europe. He made reference to the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, as he often has—which helps to explain why he polls about as well with supporters of the tea party movement, who revered and often reference the Founding documents, as with non-supporters—and proclaimed that the question in this election was whether America was going to remain “a unique nation”and whether it would “return to the principles on which it was founded.” To which Newt Gingrich then meekly concurred, adding some caveats.
And…Jonathan S. Tobin at Commentary:
Going into Saturday night’s debate in New Hampshire, Rick Santorum’s rise might have made him the focal point of the event but although he had a good night the real story was the failure of any of his rivals to lay a glove on frontrunner Mitt Romney. Though the evening began with a brutal attack on Romney from Newt Gingrich, it fell flat. From then on, Romney cruised and the night ended looking more like the inevitable nominee than ever.
Santorum sounded strong and confident and he also had help from Newt Gingrich that made the two of them look like a wrestling tag team. Nothing that happened tonight will interfere with his momentum and he may well do better than expected in New Hampshire and set himself up for a good night next week in South Carolina. But the failure of the GOP field to successfully attack Romney will only strengthen his position as the man that looks like the eventual winner.





















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Comments (389)
ZengaPA65
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:58amStop pretending that there‘s a snowball’s chance in Hell it’s not going to be Romney. It’s always been Romney. If Romney gets elected everything will stay the same. If Obama gets elected everything will stay the same. You’re not going to get offered anyone who will veer from the agenda. The CFR controls both parties and all the public gets to do is play with the minor details so we can continue to live under the illusion that there’s really a democracy.
Report Post »SpeakUpNow
Posted on January 16, 2012 at 6:23pmAgreed!
Report Post »gogogoff
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:57ampaying off ? he newts LIES are soo thick, it is disgusting.
Report Post »CaliforniaD
Posted on January 9, 2012 at 2:30amRemember two weeks ago Newt said he would not go negative and would “kill Romney with kindness.” Well, that was another Newt lie. Newt’s a mean-spirited guy. Generally, those who know Newt well don’t like him; those who know Mitt well do like him. That says a lot.
Report Post »fullertonmark
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:55amI am so sick and tired of the analysis, lets have some primary votes first
Report Post »flipper1073
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 7:33amI totally agree let’s Vote first
Report Post »Problem is the Republican Establishment, Main stream Media,
an Mitt Romney want this to be over after South Carolina,
REALLY Iowa-New Hampshire-South Carolina get to pick who
the rest of US have to Vote for ? Mitt will likely win N H but
please South Carolina throw a wrench in the works vote anyone but
Romney an let the rest of the Country Vote in Super Tuesday an Beyond.
Vote for who you want in the Primary Vote Repub. in the General
CatB
Posted on January 9, 2012 at 10:08amFlorida primary is January 31st since we have voters that come from many parts of the country (that have moved here from not only from the east coast but midwest etc.) I believe that Florida also being a larger state will have a fairer representation. We also have a closed primary .. where you have to have registered as an R to vote (although I know some dems and indendents will switch and then switch back) … Will be interesting to see who is first and second then.
Report Post »Ron Paul 2012
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:54amTo enoughisenough actually there is a bigger prison sentence to people that deal crack to people that deal powderd cocain and if you know about the big city areas black people actually deal more crack than cocain… Our polititions are Rasists
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 10:49pmRomney can’t win he has a 3M problem. Romney will never excite the base because he is a Moderate (liberal) and a Mormon and Obama will show him as the Money man.
Mormons aren‘t thought of as Christians by Catholics or Protestants so they won’t vote for Romney and they haven’t. Oddly, some Protestants are voting for Santorum and Gingrich though Catholics don’t believe Protestants are Christians either. It’s weird.
Rick Santorum is too much Government for me as well as lobbyist ties just like Gingrich. So I can’t vote for either of them. They both are too progressive for me. Too corrupt.
Perry saying send troops back to Iraq finished him.
Ron Paul can win this nomination and very well beat Obama. His platform of Austrian economics as well as civil liberties is very appealing to all. The youth voting for the eldest….The Veterans supporting the non-interventionist….all races because liberty is colorblind…..
Whomever you elect you cannot expect them to accomplish everything they promote but expect them to further or turn the momentum of Government. Obama didn’t finish off our country with his socialist policies but he did further us LEFT as intended so we will settle for a Moderate. Romney, Santorum, Gingrich, and Huntsman are Moderates. You elect one of those, the LEFT wins because even if “our” Moderate wins the left will run a more extreme than Obama furthering along the progression. The only way to reverse it is to vote Ron Paul.
Report Post »spk2moi
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:53amVote for Romney. He’s gonna take it to Obama. Remember when he was once determined to be the conservative alternative to McCain? I don‘t think he’ll disappoint, he just can’t clearly enunciate his plans to dismantle and rebuild a new, lean government. Not now. Just wait.
Report Post »Bush Hating Conervatives make me sick
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:52am@William Hemenway. He‘s Republican he’s Conservative. Rush Limbaugh even said he was Conservative.. Soon We’ll be calling him President Romney!!
Report Post »Libertarian B 4 Libertarians Were Cool
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:56amRush also was a huge supporter for budget-busting W. Rush is not the almighty…
Report Post »Mrjonesj11
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:57amRush said he was the most conservative of the folks running in 2008. Which means he is more conservative than McCain and Huckabee both RINOs and Now Mitt and Huntsman are the biggest RINOs of this contest. If Mitt is the Nominee then Obama gets another 4 years to destroy the republic.
Report Post »LIBERTYFADING
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:01amI like how there is no post about how Jesse Ventura getting punched in the face was a total hoax, but you were sure quick to put it up there in the headlines weren’t you blaze?
http://www.infowars.com/exclusive-jesse-ventura-blasts-navy-seal-punch-hoax/
Mr. Kyle is a liar and a coward. Do not honor men like this; he may be used against YOU one day.
Report Post »gogogoff
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:11amI don’t listen to Rush any more, after he played the EDITED CLIP of Romney on immigration, that was EDITED BY TEAM NEWT! that made it sound like Mitt was pro Amnesty, when if you listen to the REAL CLIP, it is 180. and even the BLAZE showed that clip, and no one said sorry, when Team Romney produced the full clip, showing the LIES.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:28amFailure of a career politician named Ron Paul
Paul, who has served 11 terms in three different stages dating back to 1976, didn’t get a single law passed until 2009, when he authored a bill that allowed for the sale of a customs house in Galveston, Texas. Failure is often the norm in Congress, where only 4 percent of proposed bills get a President’s signature, but Paul’s approach to lawmaking is particularly suited to not getting things done.
Of the 620 bills sponsored by Ron Paul during his long career in the House of Representatives, only four have ever made it to a vote on the House floor and only one of those became an actual law. An analysis by The Washington Post shows that Paul’s success rate of 0.2 percent falls far below that of most legislators, as Paul has chosen to stand up for his personal crusades, rather that build coalitions for more popular, but less ambitious, proposals.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/12/ron-pauls-long-record-glorious-failures-congress/46661/
Report Post »Vonjustice
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:34amhe’s close
Report Post »jzs
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:47amThis was a clear victory for Romney, and a victory for President Obama.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:59am@RATIONAL MAN
If Ron Paul is for taking power away from the Government, but the Government has to vote yes on those bills, of course he won’t get anything passed.
Report Post »Swalker
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:19amWe need to get the conservative word out.
Report Post »http://www.wakeupamerica.com/%7bREPNUM%7d
Help get conservatives working
Doctor Nordo
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:39am@MODERATIONISBEST
Pay no attention to Rationalman. He pretty much says the exact same thing with every post he makes. He’s a lot like the illustrious QPWillie and Spankadonkey in that regard.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 5:47amHow does a Romney nod become a victory for Obama?? Makes no sense.
Report Post »The only possible way I see that, is if the Tea Partyers are so bitter about Paul not being the nominee that they actually stay home in November. Otherwise, Romney skates to the WH.
Love_John_Galt
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 7:26amLooks like Ron Paul gave Glenn Beck the platform for his economic and international predictions. Please note the year was 2002! We were warned..and did NOTHING!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 8:14amI can’t recall a debate that was a bigger waste of time, than this one.
Report Post »The whole first hour (at least), was filled with meaningless, non-substantive questions. Sawyer looked like a drama queen. Steffy a foolish teenager.
Hey Republicans — start holding debates with CONSERVATIVE moderators who know what issues matter to conservative voters.
What a waste of time. THE WORST DEBATE — EVER!!!
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 8:27amABC Debate Statistics 1/7/2012 http://www.dawnoftheweak.com/2012/01/abc-debate-statistics-172012.html
Total Talk %
Romney 19:59 29.58%
Santorum 13:42 20.29%
Ron Paul 11:01 16.31%
Huntsman 9:17 13.75%
Gingrich 8:13 12.18%
Perry 5:20 7.90%
Total 1:07:35 100.00%
*Note: This is uninterrupted talking time, except for audience cheer/applause in the middle of a response as this goes against their official response time.
Turns Talking %
Romney 22 28.21%
Santorum 14 17.95%
Gingrich 12 15.38%
Huntsman 12 15.38%
Ron Paul 11 14.10%
Perry 7 8.97%
Total 78 100.00%
Avg b/w Talks Longest Wait
Romney 2:57 9:30
Santorum 4:28 12:03
Ron Paul 5:07 11:33
Huntsman 5:17 12:05
Gingrich 5:44 19:57
Perry 10:18 15:46
Qs Responses Follow-ups
Report Post »Romney 10 7 5
Gingrich 8 3 1
Santorum 8 4 2
Huntsman 8 3 1
Ron Paul 7 4 0
Perry 5 1 1
Total 46 22 10
Note: Qs = Questions; Responses (candidates responding to each other); Followups (moderator following up from the previous question)
HoggKilla
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 8:33amAnybody but BHO. We cant afford it.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 8:48amHe’d be 10000% better than the ‘socialist’ we have now, but 1. I don’t trust him; 2 he‘s a ’big government “moderate”’, and 3 he won’t do the hard choices to straighten the mess out; more ‘business as usual’ in DC.
PS; it ain’t over by a long shot.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:05amhaha even this blog is pushing the Mitt on us. No WAy! I’m voting for the Constitution and the only candidate who is against the NDAA – Ron Paul
Report Post »Watch and learn children
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltaLMBDFDIU
Vechorik
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:22amAnyone that thinks Romney will be a good president hasn’t done their homework on United Nations Agenda 21 and the Constitution!
DO IT!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:31amMitt Romney also has not returned a gun rights survey, but we know why.
He’s already come out in support of massive gun control initiatives such as a semi-auto ban and waiting periods for gun purchases. Romney is the real RINO in this race (Republican In Name Only) — as evidenced by the fact that anti-gun Senator John McCain just endorsed him.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 10:24amDonna Brazil call it right, after the dabate. Romney is te easiest to win against and that Roney is the one that the DNC wants to win the primary. She tipped her card.
Report Post »bhohater
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 10:44amWhat’s all the fuss about? No matter who wins they will lose in November. The Republican party may never win the White House again, there’s just too many stupid people. The best way to stop Obummer from completely destroying the nation is to win control of both houses of Congress. Just my opinion.
Report Post »bmwrider
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 10:56amThe republican debates have only helped one candidate, and thats President Barack Obama.
Report Post »aragona
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 11:07amPaul is the TEA Party’s choice? Really? Out of this group, I would think Santorum would be as close to a TEA Party choice as their is. I consider myself TEA party and am not voting for Paul – unless he‘s the nominee and then I’ll vote for him holding my nose.
Report Post »Luke21
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 11:24am@Stuck_in_CA,
Great post. Not that conservatives/constitutionalists didn’t know that the corrupt media was pushing Romney all along & (like McCain) will do so until the general – when they will then destroy him. Your post gives the facts to back up the obvious, but never the less implied understanding. Republicans are fools – they keep dancing w/ the devil & somehow keep telling themselves “maybe this time it’ll be different…”
The media has been feeding the Republicans their candidate for far too long. Wake up. The differences between Romney & Obama are not that great (same w/ McCain & Obama). Romney supports socialized medicine (has yet to say his plan failed because socialism fails, only that he’d now do it differently) & would have, like bush, still allowed bailouts, etc.
The left loves Romney because even IF (& that is a very weak if) he beats Obama, they know things won’t much change (atheist report card says it all: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/how-did-the-candidates-score-on-the-atheist-report-card/ – Romney scores “best” save Obama).
This nation is doomed w/o an immediate repentance & turning back to her God. No politician can save us.
Salvation belongs to the LORD. (Psalms 3:8)
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. (2 Chronicles 7:14)
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:16pmWhether Ron Paul gets the nomination or not, the country needs his supporters.
Report Post »We have to get Obama out.
Luke21
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:41pmHoggKilla
Posted
“Anybody but BHO. We cant afford it.”
That is absurd reasoning. Would we feel the same way if “anybody” was Hillary Clinton, or Michelle Obama, or the likes of Hitler, Stalin, or Mao? Our problem in present day America is that we fail to understand, UNLIKE our founding forefathers, that the heart of man is corrupt and left unchecked leads to unspeakable evil (Jeremiah 17:9).
“We do not want another committee, we have too many already. What we want is a man of sufficient stature to hold the allegiance of all the people and to lift us up out of the economic morass into which we are sinking. Send us such a man, and whether he be God or devil, we will receive him.” – Paul-Henri Spaak, 1st president of the UN General Assembly
“You stiff-necked and (uncut) in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you. (Acts 7:51)
Now do not be stiff-necked, as your fathers, but yield yourselves to the LORD; and enter His sanctuary, which He has sanctified forever, and serve the LORD your God, that the fierceness of His wrath may turn away from you. (2 Chronicles 30:8)
America‘s problem is not that her leader’s are corrupt – they are simply the result. America‘s problem is that she’s turned to false gods (idols) – such as money, self, glamour – & failed to repent and turn to the Living God. Until we see that, we will accept “anybody” – including the devil.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:42pmDoctor Nordo
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:39am
@MODERATIONISBEST
Pay no attention to Rationalman. He pretty much says the exact same thing with every post he makes. He’s a lot like the illustrious QPWillie and Spankadonkey in that regard.
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Translation:
Report Post »“Don’t listen to anyone else but Paulistinians. We are trying to brainwash you for pete’s sake!
Luke611
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:01pmMany here on the BLAZE, who by their admission through their writtings, fail to study the position of each candidate. They simply go with the flow, still projecting the third grade mentality of following the leader.
It is correct we should be suspicious of the process which has become corrupt and even unrecognizable that determines our elected officials. WE MUST discover our candidates motives, intent, foundation, idealogy…but WE MUST DO THESE DISCOVERIES EACH MAN OF THEMSELF.
It serves no constructive purpose to label this man “x” or this man “y” if we fail to list objective proof of a candidate. That practice fails all of us. Those of you who claim Romney is Obama lite, Paul is crazy, Santorum is corrupt need to cease and desist with the emotional tirades and interject a reasonable and logical perspective to substantiate your debate
Over 50% of the population in America is over 50 and increasing. Because this generation failed the following generation to teach the concepts of honor, respect, virtue, chastity, service, sacrifice and work, we will truly suffer for it– alll of us, both generations. If the useless whinning finger-pointing name calling persist, Obama will get his shovel ready jobs afterall:
We’ll be digging graves for those who sought liberal agendas.
If you people continue to embrace the sound bite, the gotcha, cut and paste, rumor and inuendo…you will sentence this nation to reap what you have sown.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:02pm@moderationisbest
What your arguement for Paul’s failing to get anything done convienently overlooks is that he did try to pass 620 bills and FAILED! He is a career LOSER! Except the one time he partnered with Barney Frank.
Not someting for a so called conservative to boast about. IMO
So what is his great acomplishment in 11 terms and 23yrs? Your saying that nothing is an acomplishment?
Besides, your user name betrays your retoric……………….
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:58pm@Stuck_in_CA
Report Post »Great stats, and in my own opinion, I think it shows who the Left is really afraid of. The smears, or downright ignoring of Perry is what you will see until he drops out or bust out.
NancyBee
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:25pm@ Luke21 and Luke611……………..Thank you!
Report Post »jrcowboy49
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:28pmRomney is no conservative! Get a grip!
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:29pmRational Man
Lets compare Santorum’s Career to Paul’s
Santorum got a B.A. in political science from Pennsylvania State University, a
M.B.A. from the University of Pittsburgh and a Law degree from the Dickinson School of Law then
began practicing in Pittsburgh at the law firm Kirkpatrick & Lockhart, now known as K&L Gates. Representing the World Wrestling Federation while with K&L, Santorum argued that professional wrestling should be exempt from federal anabolic steroid regulations because it was not an actual sport, rather, entertainment.
At age 32 elected to the House of Representatives U.S. Senate (1995-2007) after his defeat in the Senate he became a Lobbyist.
Ron Paul, Doctor of Medicine getting his degree from Duke University’s School of Medicine, then doing his medical internship at the Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit, after that he served as a flight surgeon in the United States Air Force and then
in the United States Air National Guard. After his service he became a
obstetrics and gynecology, and then began his own private practice delivering over 4000 babies. In between this he has served as a Congress for the Texas’s 14th congressional district.
Lawyer/ Career Politician/Lobbyist
Report Post »VS.
Medical Doctor / Servicemen / OB/GYN, OBG
/ small business owner / Congressman
recoveringneocon
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:33pmaragona
Here are a few things on ricky and the tea party
Santorum on the Tea Party
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3TVoVqvt74
Santorum: Conservative Technocrat
http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2012/01/04/santorum-conservative-technocrat/
Rick Santorum on small government
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gwwmm-cQxU
enjoy
Report Post »AhLeahIris
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:47pmRomney is no conservative. Quit pretending we don’t know what is plain: http://wp.me/p1HGwx-1UD
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:12pm@recoveringneocon
Medical Doctor / Servicemen / OB/GYN, OBG
Report Post »/ small business owner / Congressman for 11 terms in 23yrs while only passing one of his bills out of 620 into law, and earmarking for his district in bills that he voted against. / career politician with no record of accomplishment / failed 3 time presidential candidate / serial loser
Cosmos102
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 10:19pmCorrection! Rush said he was more Conservative than John McCain when Romney was running in 2008. You’d have to be lying to say Rush claims Romney to be a Conservative. Rush refuses to endorse any candidate.
Report Post »marion
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 11:27pmLIBERTYFADING, I cannot confirm the name of the person that was hit, that was never divulged that I recall, but the incident did happen, along with one other “indescretion” that occured at the bar that day, and that person was escorted out of the place, may have been why the police were nearby so soon and why CK ran, to which I heard talk about it the following Monday, and not second or third party, but at the time, when a SEAL finishes something, it’s over and one simply moves on. I can understand JV not wanting to talk about it, and not really sure why the whole incident was brought up, it may be in the book, CK did close the book on that one, end of story.
Report Post »cmark
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:44amWhen you have more than 50% of the country begging like mangy dogs for meager Government Handouts, just know it’s all over.
Report Post »Time to hit the reset button.
Ron Paul 2012
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:41amPredictions Ronmey #1 Paul #2 Santorum #3
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 7:04am@Mrjonesj11
That would only work if there was a third choice of having no president. In the real world, you’ll be supporting either the lesser of two evils or the greater of two evils.
It’s called logic. Try it sometimes.
Report Post »Byzantine_Catholic
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 8:32amDid ya know that the Nominee needs 2488. Delegates?.. Romney has 7 .. Ron Paul 6…
One very small state voted and the Media along with the Republican Establishments calls it over
I am SO TIRED of being told who to vote for,,, this is how we end up with McCain.
Vote Ron Paul for Liberty
Report Post »kifeb221993
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:18amNo Romney has 13 and Paul has a big FAT 0
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:37pmkifeb221993
Report Post »do you want to bet? Lets say $10,000.00 ?
JustMel71
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:11pm@Byzantine_Catholic Did you know about the new Republican Primary rules?
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-new-republican-primary-rules-make-it-possible-for-the-republican-establishment-to-steal-the-nomination-from-a-candidate-they-dont-like
Here‘s an article giving in detail about if the candidate doesn’t reach 50% of delegates, the GOP could gives us their pick. Excerpt from the article:
Okay, so how does all of this make it possible for the Republican establishment to steal the nomination from a candidate that they do not like?
It is actually very easy.
If the Republican establishment does not like the candidate that is leading in the delegate count, they can try to shoot for a brokered convention.
They can do this by encouraging candidates to say in the race longer in order to water down the vote.
They can also do this by encouraging late entrants into the race in order to steal some delegates away.
In fact, there are persistent rumors that the Republican establishment is already lining up late entrants to enter the race. The following comes from a recent Wall Street Journal article….
Report Post »Mrjonesj11
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:40amThis whole notion of anyone but Obama is really starting to tick me off. If Romney is the canidate I will either A. stay home B. Vote third party. I wil not put party over principle. I am sick to death having to pick the lesser of two evils.
Report Post »Ron Paul 2012
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:13amgo brother
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:17amThe lesser of two evils is still, evil.
Report Post »LibertyGoddess
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:22amHow childish. Go to your room until you can be nice.
Report Post »FLDeb
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:01amI am with you. Liberty….. by voting for who the “party” picks you are just being led by the nose by corrupt politicians. The last election made me so sick I did not feel there was any hope for our country. Both parties PICKED the candidates, not the people. I still feel the parties are in control. I do not want a candidate that bows down to the people in charge of the dems or republicans. I will not be told who to vote for this time.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:33amGood Lord you people are stupid,
One I guess none of you ever settle for the best you can get? So you’re all married to goddess or gods, you all have the best house on the block, you all have the best car/truck ever made and of coarse you all have the job of your dreams.
Grow the hell UP!
For the slow people who can’t understand elections, it’s not the party that picks the candidate but the voters. It might so happen you lack the ability or your candidate lacks the ability to show he’s the best man for the job.
Either through the use of half truths, lies or hypocrisy.
As for Ron Paul, he seem to really like to rub up with a lot of the same people Obama does. Using George Soros funded media to attack his competitors. He’s joined with Barney Frank ( you don’t get more liberal big government ) and agreed to a bunch of Soros sponsored political appointees.
You all talk status quo, I’d say working with Soros cronies is by definition of Status Quo.
Grow UP
Report Post »Miami
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:40amPS Vote for who you want but when it’s over you need to accept the nominee or we will see another Obama administration and the end of the United States. Yes and kiss the Constitution bye bye….!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:59amKookoo birds of a feather flock together
Why does Paul’s Presidential campaign drawn the enthusiastic support of an imposing collection of Neo-Nazis, Code Pink, White Supremacists, Holocaust Deniers, 9/11 “Truthers” and other paranoid and discredited conspiracists?
Report Post »Ron Paul Meets the Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth : http://www.myspace.com/video/peace-freedom-are-achieved-through-understanding/ron-paul-meets-the-student-scholars-for-9-11-truth/28483925
Chet Hempstead
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 5:32amThen you lose. I’m such a lefty I wish I could vote for someone who really is as radical as all of the paranoids on this site think Obama is, but I’m not going to let that stop me from voting for Obama, because I’m not a child, and I know that I’ll never be in the majority. Neither will you.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 5:53amYou frikkin morons!! You’re going to be the reason why Obama gets re-elected if he does!!!!
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 5:56amMiami… well said.
Report Post »How dumb can you people be? The “party” picks the candidate??? Since when? What the HELL are the primaries for?????
your sensei
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 8:15amNow, now, now, be nice people. yes, it‘s true you’re all idiots. Every last one of you. Otherwise you wouldn’t be conservatives. But don’t let that stop you from answering that nagging urge to evolve, to learn, to become one of the thinking class who sees and lives life for what it is – a big old bowl of cherries. Don’t take it serious. It’s too mysterious.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 8:42am@Miami
“As for Ron Paul, he seem to really like to rub up with a lot of the same people Obama does. Using George Soros funded media to attack his competitors. He’s joined with Barney Frank ( you don’t get more liberal big government ) and agreed to a bunch of Soros sponsored political appointees”
What about Newt and Nancy?
Or how about Santorum and Barbara Boxer?
Or Santorum and Hillary Clinton?
Or Santorum and Arlen Spector?
Or Rick Perry and Al Gore?
What is your point?
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:01amWhere as I agree that we would be better off without Obama, I’m going to stick my thumb in a few peoples eyes over what I view as being the only Possiable explanation as to why they would choose Romney/ Gingrich over Ron Paul VS Obama, RACISM.
Report Post »For to vote for either of these two is to vote for Obamas policies, which is just a end around vote for big government socialist elite globalist policies. So that being truth, then the only variable to show difference between them and Obama is skin color, which makes you “vote for less evil ” folks blatant racists, and wholly unworthy of having the right to even cast a vote in my book.
And you have the audacity to cast stones at Ron Paul, who’s getting my vote, or NO ONE is, because I don’t choose candidates on PARTY, or upon color, but upon content of character and track record, and upon the latter all other republicans bitterly fail the litmus test miserably.
Have a nice day.
Unix
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:56amWell, if you do that, expect Obama for four more years, we cannot afford that! I urge you all to reconsider, we must UNITE behind whomever emerges…the future of our country depends on that!
Anything else, and you can kiss everything you hold dear goodbye – you want to play russian roulette with your rights and freedoms? go ahead…
Report Post »kifeb221993
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:57am@dissentnow
Report Post »you dident say romney once so your saying he is the least crupt? you just made me lean to Romney thanks
aragona
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 11:10amIn that case, why stay home? Just go out and vote for Obama. Embrace it because that is what happens when you stay home. Don’t fool yourself into thinking you are a statement of some kind. You aren’t.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 11:42am@KIFEB
“you dident say romney once so your saying he is the least crupt? you just made me lean to Romney thanks”
I didn’t mention him because i thought that his lifetime of supporting leftist programs like single-payer healthcare didn’t need mentioning.
Report Post »You’re welcome.
P.S.
Have fun voting for another big government neocon
breakobamanow
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:14pmI’m with all the people here that disagree with those that try and influence us to vote for ABO. Bull you know what! If we cannot agree on a constitutionally limited government and freedom and liberty for the people then let Obama have at it for another four years; whats the big difference? Only one person makes the cut and if he does not get the nomination I’m writing him in, and will have no regrets; because I will have voted my choice who did not destroy the country. I made up my mind last year after having to vote for McCain in 2008, it ain’t happening again. I watched Judge Napolitanos’ “Freedom Watch” on FBN yesterday and agree with everything he said. Ron Paul 2012, and you can keep your change!
Report Post »Babeuf
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:35pmRepubliCorp
It is clear Ron Paul is a Democrat, in his OWN words…. check this out!!
In the Saturday night debate, Paul calls himself a Democrat, “But, also, I’m the only one up here and the only one in the Democratic Party that understands true racism in this country is in the judicial system.” A Freudian slip?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/2012-abcyahoowmur-new-hampshire-gop-primary-debate-transcript/2012/01/07/gIQAk2AAiP_blog.html
Report Post »audiemurphy
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:11pmthen shut the hell up and smile when Obama wins 4 more years.
Report Post »any American that dares bitch about the government after either not voting- voting third party – or Obama should be flogged publicly !
CaliforniaD
Posted on January 9, 2012 at 2:03amI’ve followed Mitt Romney DAILY via Google news alerts for over 5 years. Through experience he has matured into a strong conservative, hated by the DNC liberals. They know he’s dangerous for the liberal socialist agenda. They have strongly attacked him over the years, getting conservatives to repeat the same anti-Romney talking points the DNC started. Conservatives have taken the bait like they did in 2007-8. America is suffering due to rejecting Romney before, and will suffer even more if they don‘t support Romney now before it’s too late.
Report Post »Paleo
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:38amNewt, Paul, Romney, and Santorum are the only candidates that matter anymore. Rick Perry is done, although Huntsman could become relevant with a strong showing in New Hampshire.
Of the four relevant candidates, Gingrich and Santorum are going to have the most trouble. Gingrich is slipping and will most likely not recapture the support he had a month ago, while Santorum has limited money and voter enthusiasm. He did very well in Iowa, but that was due in large part to his relentless campaign there. From here on out, he won’t have the luxury of making one state his temporary residence.
That leaves Paul and Romney. Unless conservatives unite behind Paul, Romney wins. This scenario doesn’t seem plausible. Conservatives fear Paul as much as they do Romney.
I’m sorry to say, but Mitt Romney is the inevitable GOP nominee—whether conservatives like it or not.
Report Post »Ron Paul 2012
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:44amIf you like NO constitutuion and NO liberty
Report Post »Hossua
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 5:07amStop calling the big government Republicans conservatives imho.
Report Post »reform
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 5:26amIt seems like we gave Detroit and Cleveland their liberty and in exchange they are now going to fire all the police department and rehire them under the federal pay level, you see most people can’t handle liberty, so therefore you do have to instill some law.
Report Post »breakobamanow
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:21pmI’m glad I live in VA, I only have two chioces and I’m for “Not Romney”; so guess who is remaining?
Report Post »CaliforniaD
Posted on January 9, 2012 at 2:13amAnti-Romney conservatives got Obama elected last time, they may just do that once again with their irrational anti-Romney shortsightedness. Romney’s a talented and capable person, probably the best all-around conservative candidate since Reagan. American needs him. Reject Romney=Obama wins again.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:36amWhat we can’t have is a third party run, whoever the nominee is. Its time for the adults to take charge and leave the childish acts to the liberals. Any third party or write in delusion is a vote for Obama…..period.
Report Post »Mrjonesj11
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:41amPrinciple over party sorry I will not vote for the lesser of two evils.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:57amIf Ron Paul doesn‘t win the nomination and doesn’t run as a third party I will either
Stay home or go in and write Ron Paul out of principle. I am not going to vote for someone who is going to keep the status quo and the only person talking about changing that is Ron Paul.
Report Post »Valkaneer
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:01am@MRJONESJ11 So your giving your vote to Obama… good one. The lesser of two evils is voting for who ever is not Obama.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:07amMOD,
I thought you atheists were supposed to be logical?
You are not sounding logical, or moderate.
Report Post »CannonFL
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:17amWhat ever happened to give me LIBERTY or give me DEATH?
Enough said…
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »maccow
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:22amOkay children! Lets stop with the write in vote, I’l stay at home, principle over politics crap. I have principles, they are God Family, Country/Constitution AND THEN my favorite candidate. To hear some of you, it sounds like your candidate comes first. ANY of the candidates in this field could get us started down the right road. NONE of them is a guaranteed to make things worse than Obama has and will continue to if given the chance. NONE of these candidates, your favorite included, can possibly fix the whole country in four or even eight years so stop acting like they can do it on day one. EVERYONE of the candidates will disappoint you in some way if elected. And if they don’t then you have had too much of their cool-aid and your brain dead already. EVERYONE of the candidates will have every Leftist/liberal/progressive/MSM/MSMBC?CNN?ABC?CBS?NBC/pinko/commie to contend with so why don’t we all play like grown ups and stop this un-American BS.
Report Post »Yes I said it. If you can’t rally around and support the eventual nominee then I say you are a traitor to this country for ostensibly casting your vote for BHO.
This is a primary. I can no more control the outcome in NH, Iowa, or S.C. then you can and my candidate may or may not win just as your’s may or may not.
GET OVER IT.
Yes the Elite establishment pick McCain for us, but we aren’t fooled this time. So stop calling every other candidate but your’s the “Next McCain”.
(This rant will continue)
maccow
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:47am(Rant Continued)
Report Post »If my candidate loses I will be voting for your winning candidate.
Stop with the lesser of two evils crap. As abysmal as McCain might have been (Moot Point) he couldn’t have out destroyed the constitution like BHO, even on his best day. Neither can any of the candidates we now have.
I am becoming more and more convinced that there are legions of trolls stoking the fires of vote candidate X or just stay home. If any honest thinking person gives in to this lie from the pit of hell, then they are playing right into Obama’s hand.
Please I encourage you to support your candidate but try and keep it in perspective. Your guy isn’t the One and Only Messiah, (The left voted that guy into office in 2008) and the other candidates aren’t the Anti-Chrst. (Hey! The left voted that guy into office in 2008 also)
On they day after the next election will we have marxist leftist fire bombing us because their beloved leader lost, or will libertarians and conservatives be fire bombing each other to the great joy of the left.
Can you imagine how intolerably smug the looks on the faces of Chris Matthews, Keith Olberman, Joe Scarborough, Obama and God forbid Michele Obama will be if we let this happen. AAGGHH!!! Please all you great Americans, pledge with me right now that we will cast what ever vote we have to to keep that day from ever coming.
ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:05am@THERIGHTSOFBILLY
Hey Billy, nice to see you again. I was beginning to wonder if you were okay because you hadn’t commented on one of my posts within the last 16 hours.
What is rational about voting for something we already have when we all know it doesn’t work? Ron Paul is the only guy there that is actually talking about alternatives to what we’ve had over the decades.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:10amMODERATEISBEST
hi MODERATE
I saw you were still posting to my comments about Santorum’s baby. Man, you have some serious issues with God.Your ravings and hateful rethoric about God does not speak in favor of you being a moderate.
I saw someone gave you scripture about children going to heaven. Here is also one from the Old Testament that speaks perhaps best to the maturity. In the book of Numbers 14:29 it states: “In this desert your bodies will fall everyone of you 20 years and older, who was counted in the census and who has grumbled against me.” Meaning anyone under 20 was allowed into the Promised Land. Most likely because they were too young when the Israelites made the golden calf. That is probably also where we get the legal age of 18 to 21 from.
And to children being so easily manipulated, Jesus had the following to say in Matthew 18:6 “But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.” This is what the muslims, who teach their children hatred and killing, will face when they stand before God.And any other person that sets out to teach Children that God is not real. Judgement is coming and thank God for that, because He will bring justice.
Report Post »LibertarianRight
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:12amI absolutely REFUSE to vote for a Big Government version of “conservatism” just because I don’t like the same thing from Obama with a touch of “liberalism”.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 5:59amPrinciple over party = death of America.
Report Post »A lame duck Obama will be worse than a 1st term Obama.
$15 trillion in debt now? 15 million out of work now?
We’ll all be standing in bread lines by 2016.
Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:14pmHey MOD, good to hear from you again too,
The best answer I can give you is re-post my comment from the other day that you never responded to.
THERIGHTSOFBILLY
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 7:20pm
“You know that was a jab at you for saying you might just not vote.
You said……..”Sadly, I don’t see anyone beating Obama”
That implies that you WANT him to lose, but yet you might not vote to remove him?
Isn’t that the same thing as voting FOR him?
Unless of course you think the alternative is worse?
Would you then not vote FOR Obama to keep the bad alternative from winning?
But still you say you might not vote.
Hmmmmmmmmmm
I thought atheists were supposed to be logical?”
MOD, your motives are clear. You are not fooling anyone.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 8:09pm@MACCOW
You hit the proverbial nail right square on the head.
And at the moment of impact, a large contingent of the trolls you mentioned, let out a collective “OUCH”
Report Post »conservativewoman
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:35amYeah, just ignore the newsletters Paul wrote (he says he didn’t) just like all the stuff that was ignored about Obama.
NOT Ron Paul, 2012
Report Post »LibertarianRight
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:23amHe didn’t write them. James Powell did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE9VXaRYbFI
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 6:02amYou mean James Powell held the pen.
Report Post »Paul certainly knew what was written.
Ron Paul 2012
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:34amI actually agreed with a few canidates
Report Post »1ron pual
Ron Paul 2012
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:36amsantorum – don’t agree with the Iran War
Report Post »Huntsman Libertarian ??
Ron Paul 2012
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:38am****Ron Paul
Report Post »gogogoff
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:38amI am from Utah he was my Gov, and let me say THANK HEAVENS HE IS GONE! he is pro Cap and trade. he is far more Liberal then Libertarian, but then again those to meld at many points.
Report Post »bearfoothillbilly
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:18amHAY LOOK EVERY ONE IT’s A RON PAUL SPAMER
Report Post »Ron Paul 2012
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:32amIve said it before but im American Vet and the ony policy that I agree with is ron paul any ???
Report Post »ENOUGHISENOUGH
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:36amI’m not for Ron Paul because of his foreign policy.
Report Post »Girard1974
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:48amRon Paul is simply not electable because he’s never presidential. Like it or not to become a Republican President of the United States takes a fully rounded person. Ron Paul comes across as a weakling – that may sound unfair, but this is simply what it is. He’ll never be anything more than a representative from Texas.
On the other hand, Democrats will vote for “hope and change” rather than anything substantive. How else can anyone explain the mistake of Barack Obama? Could any Republican (especially a conservative) actually win the presidency running a campaign like the one the Democrats put forth in 2008? Not a chance. But this is precisely why we need someone like Mitt Romney. He’s as close to a winner as we’re going to get this year, so the sooner we get behind him to lay out a campaign against Obama the better our chances are to send the Obama’s packing come 2013 – and that should be the only goal of Election Day 2012.
Report Post »Ron Paul 2012
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:48amWell I’ve sereved both in Afghan and Iraq and ive seen civilaians killed and terrrorist killed it is time to stop telling countries how to act politicaly and mind our own buissnes
Report Post »Valkaneer
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:09am@RON PAUL 2012 Ron Paul’s policy is similar of that right before WWII, and what did that get us? Perl Harbor, keep your nose out of other peoples business gets you bombed. Try reading the Art of War. Its a few thousand years old and quite clearly outlines how bad Ron Paul is on his foreign policy.
Report Post »bearfoothillbilly
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:16amHay Ron Paul would have us sitting in our skivvies smoking pot with no defenses from an invading country.
He Is not the right one to lead.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:44pmValkaneer
Report Post »You should read a little history before say what our Foreign Policy was before WW2. I think you will be surprised.
Ron Paul 2012
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:30amI actually agreed with a few canidates and their views but there is only one constinutionalist Dr. Ron Paul
Report Post »conservativewoman
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:29amI don’t like the talking heads influence peddling. Telling the public who they think won a debate. The media tries to pick presidential nominees every election, because they know there is a large amount of people who only listen to sound bites to know who to vote for.
I personally think Romney is too soft, but this country loves a good-looking president. I look to substance.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:28am” . . . there isn’t even a memorable anti-Mitt line from the entire affair, unless it was in Chinese and hasn’t been translated yet.” Good one!
Report Post »I hope Huntsman packs it in Tuesday night. I am soooo tired of his condecension in general and towards conservatives in particular.
MrMagoo
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:28amLets all kiss and make up.Romney is the candidate.NOT.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:19amYeah, I’m sad to say RP did have an off night. He was brilliant when talking about the economy and constitution. No one attempted to contradict him there. Oh well, he’s still my guy until others address my liberty concerns. I do wish they would have let him counter Santorum‘s claims that under Paul’s policies the rescue mission of the Iranian fishermen. Closing down foreign bases doesn‘t mean you can’t project power overseas with the navy/marines.
Report Post »conservativewoman
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:31amReally? And how are you going to supply and transport wounded?
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:37amTrue, but it limits the ability a whole lot. RP paints with such a broad brush that many of his good points get obfuscated by the extent of the proposal. Take foreign military bases, for example. Should we be paying for the defense of rich countries like Germany? A good argument against that — so pull out of Germany. But what about Diego Garcia? Should we step off of the “Footprint of Freedom”? (“step off” — get it? Sorry.) There are no civilians on Diego Garcia, it is owned by the U.K., and it is an outstandingly well located spot for naval forces operating in the Indian Ocean. But, under Ron Paul’s administration, we would abandon Diego Garcia. In so doing, we would be placed at a very big disadvantage in conducting operations in that part of the world.
Report Post »ENOUGHISENOUGH
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:42amRon Paul‘s comments about black’s being jailed more that rich white’s was digusting to me. What is his deal? These types of remarks turn me off big time. We might as well keep what we have. Obama, “The Cambridge Police acted stupidly.” Sounds like Paul to me. He managed to cut down our police in his remarks. I’m tired of the race bating.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 5:01amI hear ya Chuck. There would have to be some give and take. I’d like to think that once he was privy to the intel and advice from his military advisors he would make wise decisions. I do believe he cares greatly for our boys in uniform and would not do anything that would put them at greater risk than need be. It‘s too bad we can’t nail him down on specifics, eh?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 5:11am@Enough Try looking at his statement a different way. He was defending accusations of racism. He merely noticed a statistical anomaly in our policies and is pushing for a system of equality. That being said, I already mentioned I thought he had an off night in the debate.
Report Post »MS Patriot
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:28amRon Paul’s foreign policy does scare me to death. I believe it necessary to maintain our foreign bases in strategic locations. Even if we remove ourselves from actual confrontations (meddling) we still need to have the ability to address emergency situations. Unfortunately, many so called Leaders in foreign lands may not respond properly to all the diplomacy in the world. Diplomacy didn’t help with Hitler, it probably won’t go over well in Iran and North Korea. Maintaining our presence in strategic parts of the world, helps to deter the chances of acts of aggression. It’s like the cameras they post at intersections, or the State Trooper car parked empty in the median. It tends to slow you down, even if you can’t be pulled over.
Report Post »My other issue with Paul is the legalization of drugs. Our country has spent billions to repair the damages caused by illegal drugs in this country. We could have simply closed the border and saved in many areas, less police forces needed to battle the crime, less money spent on prisons and the detainment of drug criminals. I see the over flow of illegal drugs as just another measure of the progressive socialist to undermine our wealth and economy. By not curtailing the drugs from entering the country we have spent billions in reacting to the problem. Plus, billions of American dollars have now been taken out of our country tax free. Paul‘s policy to make it legal won’t eliminate the drug use problem and the costs that come with i
justangry
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 10:48amI don’t think anyone wants an open pass for drug use in the country, but you do have to admit our current national policy has serious flaws and is failing. Drug use hasn’t really decreased, violence is up at the border and we’re spending money we don’t have alienating folks to the south of us with the DEA. Not only that; we throw people in prison, pay for their room and board while they continue to do drugs. Also violent criminals are being released early because of lack of space. By having states deal with their own drug problems, they would adopt different strategies. Innovative and successful strategies would then be emulated by the other states. I believe that would have a more positive impact in decreasing use throughout the country, although we’ll never be able to rid ourselves of the problem completely.
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:08amOnce Santorum is exposed…his Tea-Party support will be split between Paul and Newt
Report Post »Ron Paul 2012
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:28amHa newt a tea partier think again
Report Post »PJL
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:57amNothing is hundred percent, but he’s looking pretty good.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:22amYeah because he had 45 minutes of talking time. Corruption.
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:41amLooked presidental…just like Obama…Went after the sitting president…just like Obama…implemented individual mandate…just like Obama…can’t get a straight answer from him…just like Obama…media favorite…just like Obama…no plans for cutting spending…just like Obama…flip-flopper…just like Obama…chose a Christian church that Jesus would not recognize as a true religion…just like Obama
Report Post »MS Patriot
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:35amI would be hesitant to vote for anyone the Republican establishment put forward as their man. The fact that PAC money was used to go after Newt to keep him from passing Romney lets me know that Romney is just another progressive. Of course Newt is an old progressive and he‘s mad that he can’t get the establishment’s backing because they know an old white guy is not beating King Hussein. Perry is a progressive wanna be that has been shun by the Bush clan (progressives) and can’t get in.
Report Post »I like Santorum, he is receiving their money and he experienced first hand what happens when you attempt to play ball with the establishment. They leave you hanging out to dry and looking like a politician who flip flops on their values. I believe he learned his lesson, of course most freshmen Senators get caught up in the games they play in Washington. Not until the 2010 election did freshmen representatives understand the importance of saying no to the establishment.
The way I look at it, the one receiving the most money to get elected is the evil man out.
swenk
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:36pmRomney has been my choice… been looking at others but it’s still Romney. I’ve been to 3 teaparty events, am conservative. They (the msm and dems) will heavily attack Romney on being a Mormon (let alone Reid is also and given the roots of Obama’s spirituality w/the rev wright that was ignored) and try to split the conservative evangelical and Ron Paul group away but I think common sense will win in the end. Romney is entirely good/ready for the job and will do worlds better than Obama while maintaining most conservative principles.
Report Post »pma_guy
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:56amMitt Romney reminds of a “friend” I used to be in business with. He’s so smooth he lulls you into a stupor with his charisma and poetic speech while he steals you blind. I do NOT trust this guy.
Report Post »READRIGHTHERE
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:04amOnly Romney has never stolen anyone blind or even near sighted, and everyone that did business with him supports him.
William Hemenway
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:26amActually he lies pretty much every time he opens his mouth and calls himself a Republican maybe in the north east of the country but nowhere else
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:32amhe is just creepy, no romney
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 6:09amPMA.. how’s his business tract record?
Report Post »Wyatt's Torch
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:54am@PMA
Report Post »I totally agree… he has a well greased teflon coating and a silver tongue. He acts presidential, he has a well groomed and polished “brand”, an FDR smile, and good hair, but there just seems to be something hidden behind his beady shifty eyes that tells me he can’t be trusted…
gogogoff
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:55amWell it showed Rick Gingrich are still united.
I swear every other thing Rick S said, was “Like Newt said”
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:23amRon Paul waiting last to get him. Don’t be fooled!
Report Post »JP16
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:54amBrody may need to rethink his analysis. Santorum made himself look foolish by declaring that they shouldn’t mention being Middle Class and then described them as Middle Income Earners, which is one again, a classification that in all reality means the same thing. Santorum played the “Obama’s inciting class warfare” card, but to say that a Middle Class classification is bad and then to just replace the word “class” with “income earners” as a factor of classification is just bad.
Report Post »J Tom Wilson
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:41amI had the same reaction JP, It’s sad when a supposed conservative stoops to to class envy to win votes. There are some who will be moved by such pandering though. Huckabee has a measure of success with the same tactic. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Santorum use it again. A big part of his appeal is as a champion of blue collar Republicans. I like having a Republican appealing to blue collar conservatives, but I dislike that it’s couched in class resentment.
Report Post »Obama will use this same tactic against Romney.
MS Patriot
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:38amI think they are trying to put some PC to the classification of wage earners in this election. Of course King Hussein is out yelling he is going to help the middle class out with taxes. That just means he plans on taxing millionaires back into the middle income earners.
Report Post »MS Patriot
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:47amI agee JTom,
Report Post »I think if Santorum goes up against King Hussein he can pull some of the union votes away from him. Obama will talk of the working class man, but he was never working class nor his parents or grand parents. Santorum comes from the working class and will be listened to by union workers who vote because of his back ground. Santorum isn‘t old money and doesn’t not fit the progressive elite profile. Some have tried to pigeon hole him as a progressive because of his past, but I believe it was more of bad judgement on his part.
AxelPhantom
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:51amI would say…neutral. Didn’t hurt himself, but didn’t help himself much either.
Report Post »Ron Paul 2012
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:29amok
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