Did Elizabeth Warren Plagiarize More Than Just Recipes?
- Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:00pm by
Mytheos Holt
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For those of you who have been following the increasingly laughable dust-up over Elizabeth Warren’s shoddy academic performance and dubious Cherokee Heritage, the story has just gotten both more absurd and more serious.
Why? Because controversy has ensued over whether Warren was a plagiarist, or a victim of plagiarism. You see, along with her plagiarism of recipes for the “Pow Wow Chow” cookbook, Warren was recently accused of plagiarizing in an area where academic standards, or at least journalistic standards, are arguably in force – namely, in writing a book of Financial Advice. National Review’s Katrina Trinko has reported that sections of Warren’s book “All Your Worth: The Ultimate Money Lifetime Plan“ appear to be lifted directly from the book ”Getting on the Money Truck” by Rob Black.
Compare these passages from Warren’s book:
In fact, more than 80 million Americans now owe money on a credit card. And not just a little bit of money: The average family that carries a balance now owes more than two months’ income on their credit cards.
A generation or two ago, almost no one carried any debt except for a home mortgage and maybe a car loan. There were no giant credit card balances, no payday loans, and no home equity loans. In fact, just 35 years ago, the total amount of debt outstanding among all American households was about 1/600th of what it is today. That means that for every dollar your generation owes today, your parents’ generation owed less than half a penny!
With these passages from Black’s:
In fact, more than 80 million Americans now owe money on a credit card. And not just a little bit of money: The average family carrying a balance now owes more than two months of income on their credit cards.
A generation or two ago, almost no one carried any debt except for a home mortgage and maybe a car loan. There were no giant credit card balances, no payday loans (watch out for these as they end to charge 10 percent or more for the right to your own money), and no home equity loans. In fact, just 35 years ago, the total amount of debt outstanding among all American households was about 1/600th of what it is today.That means that for every dollar your generation owes today, your grandparents’ generation owed less than half a penny!
The Black passages, as you can see, are virtually identical with the passages from Warren’s book. At first blush, full context doesn’t do Warren any favors – she gives attribution to Black nowhere in the relevant pages.
But did she have to? According to a post by Trinko later after posting the above passages, it actually turns out that Warren published her book first:
On Amazon.com, the Warren book All Your Worth is listed as having been published January 9, 2006. As it turns out, that is thepaperback publication date; the hardback book was published in March 2005. As such, it appears that Getting on the Money Track (published in October 2005) plagiarized from All Your Worth, not the other way around.
This suggests something rather deeply problematic about academic standards in America. It also gives Warren an out on the plagiarism charge regarding her recipes – after all, if everyone’s plagiarizing, recipe books are probably the least damaging place for the accusation to come in. Much as the story eats away at Warren’s claim to Native American cultural heritage, it’s still not as bad as having your own text lifted without so much as an acknowledgment.
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Comments (119)
jpschaeffer
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:12pmBidden the vice plagiarizer …….one heartbeat away from the presidency is a more important issue than Warren
Report Post »lovenfl3
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:19pmIt’s still important. This woman is a complete fraud. We need to fight back against all of these loons, regardless of another loon being worse. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t5bgM61ULc
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 10:02pmIs Biden’s plagiarism more important than his medical history? The man had brain cancer. He is ACTUALLY missing part of his BRAIN!
Report Post »Speaking of medical history — why won’t Der Obamasar deign to let his subjects see his medical file?
jhaydeng
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 10:11pmNothing will happen with this! She will skate away!
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 10:16pmLiz said once that no rich person in this country made it on their own. Guess she was speaking from personal experience.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 10:44pmSeeker9
Perfect observation Seeker9.
That needs to be a commercial for Scott Brown.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 11:00pmI’d like to remind everyone about the jerk, Ward Churchill from Boulder CU who tried the same
Report Post »vague heritage of being an American Indian to land his job at CU. When they let him go, finally,
he tried to sue for getting his job back and lost again. So, watch out Mz. Warren who’s calling
whom a Cherokee Indian. I’m probably more Cherokee than you are and can prove it, but
never used it to get a plush job. It’s enough that I just have pride in my true heritage.
srjim2000
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 12:25amThis is a great spoof on Elisabeth Warren and the Dems – pay close attention to the names given to the Dems… http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dN2FGuYgtlY
Report Post »poetopoet
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 12:30amLike “Bowels in or bowels out?” Hannibal Lecter, typo?
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:39amHer and a bunch of folks want you looking at this and not at bangshift.com (Nissan Leaf Busted). The Leaf was caught fuleing up on a cross country trip. Customers are being stranded because it just stops with battery capicity still there. This generator burns 8 gallons of diesel an hour and it takes 8 hrs. to charge or at $3.51 a gallon = $224.64 and then 100 miles down the road you do it again at 220 volts. On pure elctricity at 110 volts it take 14 hrs. to charge = $ 3.86. My wifes tank only gets an avg of 16 MPG and that will cost $21.97 for 100 miles. My sons 550 Ford diesel gets 9 mpg and the cost is $39.99 for 100 miles. Obama and Nissan has ordered this swept under the rug.
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:03amWe live in Ma; mostly blind democrat voters, but the guy on the street who vote the dem ticket are all talking about the fraud that is Warren. Her Goose is cooked. She is the biggest joke to everybody.Consider this senate seat still in the Republicans’ hands.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 11:49pm@SRJIM2000
Report Post »re : This is a great spoof on Elisabeth Warren and the Dems – pay close attention to the names given to the Dems… http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dN2FGuYgtlY
Report Post »
*****
Ya gotta love it!
jpschaeffer
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:09pmBiden’s exit from the 1988 race is worth recalling in detail, because his transgressions far exceeded Obama’s own relatively innocent lifting of rhetorical set pieces from his friend Deval Patrick, which occasioned a brief flap last February. Biden’s misdeeds encompassed numerous self-aggrandizing thefts, misstatements, and exaggerations that seemed to point to a serious character defect. In some ways, the 1988 campaign—in which scandal forced not just Biden but also Gary Hart from the race—marked a watershed in the absurd gotcha politics that have since marred our politics and punditry. But unlike Hart’s plight, Biden‘s can’t be blamed on an overly intrusive or hectoring press corps. The press was right to dig into this one.
here is me plagiarizing
Report Post »jpschaeffer
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:04pmhttp://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history_lesson/2008/08/the_write_stuff.html
Report Post »jpschaeffer
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:01pmtoday there are computer programs that make it almost impossible to be a plagiarizer
Report Post »sbenard
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:59pmSo Fauxcahontas is a fundamentally dishonest person. She‘s a progressive who doesn’t believe that the fruits of a person’s labor really belongs to that person. We are now learning that Warren steals both on a personal basis, just as she recommends that we do on a societal basis. She wants to codify the violation of “thou shalt not covet” and “thou shalt not steal” on a societal scale, just as she has done on an individual level.
Report Post »Unfortunately, many other progressives, of which Massachusetts has many, don’t care. They are too busy selling their votes for a mess of pottage to care that it is dishonest.
Progressivism IS tyranny. Collectivism in all its forms has destroyed every civilization they have ever touched. And Warren wants still more! She’s not the descendant of Cherokees; she’s the spawn of the Devil!
jpschaeffer
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:59pmWarren learned how to plagiarizer from Bidden!!!!
Report Post »jmgair
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:56pmThis is so typical of liberals, especially the ones whom are held in high regard as being so brilliant. Can you imagine what kind of plagiarism that is in Obama’s writings from college ? Oh, sorry I forgot nobody has ever seen his college work or grades for that matter.
Report Post »TheBurningTruth
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:54pmThe wording is just too close for one of the “sources” NOT to be a copy of the other. If if the book hadn’t been fully published and distributed, it still existed in time to be copied. Perhaps SackoSchwitta Warren was a proof reader? or had friends at the publishers? Check the political affiliation of the “original” author. Dollars to donuts that she‘s retracting her story so Warren doesn’t lose the election.
Report Post »Dr. Joel Fleischman
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:47pmI heard she has settled on a campaign theme song… “Half Breed” by Cher.
Report Post »gsplgtr
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:55pmAnd I thought it was going to be the Paul Revere and the Raiders tune “Cherokee People”.
Report Post »OhSnappage
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:47pmWarren is a friggen’ parasite, democrat party is full of them.
Report Post »Dr. Joel Fleischman
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:45pmFauxacahontas.
Report Post »DesdemonasCrew
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:37pmAh so what! The blogger made a mistake. The left has spread lie after lie knowing that the first hit is the hardest, true or not. Get over it! Warren still sucks.
Report Post »Your Name Here
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:35pmElizabeth “Saco-de-caca” Warren is just a typical liberal.
Report Post »We the people should start examining all the liberal’s backgrounds for fraud, lies, etc.
We need to start prosecuting these crooks, starting with Obama.
aojeda
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:34pmThe Blaze is single-handedly destroying this poor woman’s senate bid…. Me gusta.
Report Post »donh2
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:21pmRomney needs to get ahold of Scott Brown’s back office team of opposition researchers and HIRE THEM !
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:35pmSpeaking for the Blaze, de nada, Aojeda… I‘ve learned we can’t trust
Report Post »Liberals..they lie to your face without hesitation, they accuse before
knowing the FACTS…i.e.: Rep Fredericka Wilson and Rep.Hank Johnson
flat out accused Geo. Zimmerman of executing Trevon Martin, hunting
him down like dog..These are only two examples, Pelosi, Holder and
Obama were also on this Band Wagon..Totally Disgusting for elected
officials to act this way…
MIBUGNU2
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:37pmSpeaking for the Blaze, de nada, Aojeda… I‘ve learned we can’t trust
Report Post »Liberals..they lie to your face without hesitation, they accuse before
knowing the FACTS…i.e.: Rep Fredericka Wilson and Rep.Hank Johnson
flat out accused Geo. Zimmerman of executing Trevon Martin, hunting
him down like dog..These are only two examples, Pelosi, Holder and
Obama were also on this Band Wagon..Totally Disgusting for elected
officials to act this way…they don’t seem to have a problem with it…..
Duude
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:27pmIsn’t that how you get your doctorate? Cut and paste the work of others? Maybe reword it a bit to make it “your own”?
Report Post »Eleutheria
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:47pmThat’s what all of the tenured professors I work for continue to do with the work of their researchers.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:02pmFootnotes can make all the difference.
Report Post »TheReasonableLib
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:25pmLOL theblaze has this on the front page after the writer already retracted the statement. You just made yourselves look like hacks (you are hacks by the way, so the look fits) for not fact-checking this before going with it. Will you apologize or will this article just disappear like your first Trayvon one?
Report Post »Dr. Joel Fleischman
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:36pmRead more, post less.
Report Post »TheReasonableLib
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:53pm@ “doctor joel”
Report Post »you do realize that the original author of the national review article has taken down her post because it turns out Warren‘s hardback book was released before black’s in 2005, right? Of course not because you don’t research. None of you people do. You eat up whatever theblaze posts because it affirms your narrow world view.
Apple Bite
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:56pmTrayvon? You mean the wanna be thug that got shot for his efforts?
We’ll apologize collectively as soon as MSM properly go through the motions of vetting Obama, asking about his college transcripts and asking him actual controversial questions as they concern this new book “Amateur” with very damning info within it’s covers.
Report Post »Dr. Joel Fleischman
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:07pmGo back to HuffPo then if you hate it here then. You are one to be calling out us for “not doing any research”. You ******** have that down pat.
Report Post »Dr. Joel Fleischman
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:10pm@Apple Bite
well said.
Report Post »TheReasonableLib
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:23pm@ apple bite
I love your new code words, instead of saying “thug” why not just yell “n****r” like you want to? Yes, Obama certainly wasn’t vetted. Wright and Ayers and all manner of birth certificate bs were never mentioned. It was just a halucination.
@“doctor joel”
Report Post »Hate it here? I love it here! You people never fail to expose the vile, racist, ignorant underbelly of society. Or perhaps I should say overbelly since its all out in the open now? You guys just keep talking about how this is all about the economy while mentioning Wright, gay marriage, abortions and condoms and I’ll just sit back and watch!
donh2
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:27pmThe retraction only means the source received their federal express delivery of a bloody severed horse head with no return address.
Report Post »CivicDuty-Veritas
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:36pmAccording to Amazon:
Getting on the Money Track by Rob Black and Pam Krueger (Oct 14, 2005) Pub: Wiley
All Your Worth: The Ultimate Lifetime Money Plan by Elizabeth Warren and Amelia Warren Tyagi (Jan 9, 2006) Pub: Free Press
Report Post »DGuy
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:38pmMe thinks you have that disease called ‘Liberalism’.
Report Post »TheReasonableLib
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:39pm@don
Report Post »LOL, the best part is I can‘t even tell if you’re a liberal trolling or being serious. Goes to show how unhinged neocons are.
TheReasonableLib
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:44pm@ Veritas
Report Post »First off you name should be mendacium. Secondly, click the link in theblaze’s own article, the hardback was published first in 2005. Are you people even trying right now?
TheReasonableLib
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:47pm@ dguy
Report Post »Meknows you have a disease called dishonesty. Frequently caused by low IQ
CivicDuty-Veritas
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:48pmAddenum from Amazon:
All Your Worth by Elizabeth Warren and Amelia Warren Tyagi (Kindle Edition – Mar 8, 2005)
Something is not right with Amazon’s information.
Report Post »donh2
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:54pmSo Black was able to copy a March 2005 book and contract to have it published within 6 months. Shows how little you know about the publishing business. The time line is impossible. Fascist thugs got to this woman and made her an offer to retract she could not refuse.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:54pmTHEREASONABLELIB The last gasp of a dying dinosaur.
Report Post »donh2
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 10:09pmSeriously… “ Opps my fact checking error ” was yesterday’s spin damage control of the Waffen SS Obama media truth squad…We have corroborating evidance Warren plagerized her cook book, and plagerized her own ethnicity…now she’s plagerizing her excuses….What corroborating evidance is there that Rob Black has plagerized other works ?
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 10:51pmTHE UNREASONABLE LIB, Have you taken any hikes lately?
Report Post »RebuttalKing
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 11:03pmTo those of you going to Amazon for the publication dates. The PAPERBACK version of Warren’s book was published in 2006, the HARDBACK edition was published in early-2005, before the other book. If there was plagiarism, IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND! Brain-dead sheep.
Report Post »teebubba
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:21pmI just read that the person making this accusation has discovered that Warren’s hardback copy of her book preceded the publication of the book she is said to have plagiarized from and has offered an apology.
Report Post »donh2
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:38pm50 angry threatening phone calls from IRS agents , and David Axelrod contract killers has a way of making people say…OOOPS I made a mistake. Look into the specifics for yourselves… how far apart the dates and if these two ever worked together. Warren could have plagerized Black from a prepublished source and beat him to press like is often done in patented inventions.
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:21pmJust like Pelosi and Reid, she has those weird eyes. I had a dog with those eyes about 20 years ago and my vet told me he was retarded. True story
Report Post »cykonas
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:34pmThanks for a great big belly laugh in the midst of so much heavier stuff!
Report Post »phillipwgirard
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:43pmOh that is hilarious, thanks needed that
Report Post »almacote
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:19pmSoooo….. When is the Blaze’s apology coming?
http://politicker.com/2012/05/18/national-review-apologizes-for-accusing-elizabeth-warren-of-plagiarism/
I’ll pray for all of you….
Report Post »chips1
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:29pmALMACOTE:
Report Post »The trick on The Blaze is to read the story before you post. I believe you’ll learn this when you get promoted to third grade.
Dr. Joel Fleischman
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:40pmWe’ll apologize when NBC does after the tape-editing stunt they pulled on Zimmerman.
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 11:06pmLol CHIPS!!!!
Report Post »PatrickW
Posted on May 21, 2012 at 5:30pmHow often did Breitbart apologize?
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:13pmOMGWTFLOLURCAREERIZBBQ!!!!
Time to skin…oh excuse moi, SCALP the cat.
Report Post »Twisted Mind
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:43pmHey Hey Let’s leave the cats out of this. I like cats. They taste like chicken
Report Post »godhatesacoward
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:11pmThat pos is as red as I am brown! That aside, I can‘t stand a f’n thief!
Report Post »DaveOregon
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:10pmThis broad is toast this election – and if Mass has any smidgen of honor (includes Harvard) – they’ll throw her out of the State and Harvard will revocke her degree!
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:19pmShe is a liberal. She will still get 33% of the vote or more. If they can get her within 5% points of Brown thru party (tribal) loyalty & MSM running interference, they will manufacture the votes using the dead, illegals, Florida double voting or whole cloth.
It is the Democrat way.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:10pmHilarious that she is getting caught in her own web of lies.
Disturbing that she is apparently a pathological liar.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:06pmIndian Giver.
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:06pm…..Live by the Lie, Die by the Lie……whats next for Lizzie?….she is really a man?
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