Did Geologists Find Source of Stonehenge’s Boulders?
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The source of the rocks forming the inner circle of Stonehenge has been a long debated mystery, but geologists think they have found the source of at least some of the stone.
The Daily Mail reports that Robert Ixer from the University of Leicester and Richard Bevins of the National Museum of Wales think the rocks may have come from Craig Rhos-y-Felin in Pembrokeshire, a county in southwest Wales. They found almost 99 percent of the rhyolite rock samples from Stonehenge’s inner circle matched rock from this area.
Craig Rhos-y-Felin. (Image via Daily Mail)
According to the museum press release, the story deepens:
Along the Rhos-y-felin crags, the rhyolites are distinctly different on a scale of metres or tens of metres. This has enabled Bevins and Ixer to match some Stonehenge debitage samples to an even more precise locality at the extreme northeastern end of the area.
What this means is that the area is now small enough for archaeologists to excavate to try and uncover evidence for associated human activity so providing another strand of the story of how the stones from Pembrokeshire reached Stonehenge.
“Many have asked the question over the years, how the stones got from Pembrokeshire to Stonehenge,” Bevins said in the press release. “Was it human transport? Was it due to ice transport? Thanks to geological research, we now have a specific source for the rhyolite stones from which to work and an opportunity for archaeologists to answer the question that has been widely debated. It is important now that the research continues.”
BBC reports that theories surrounding transport of the stone include using a raft, which could be unlikely due to the terrain making it difficult to move the rocks up the coast. Other theories include that the force of nature, such as glaciers, could have moved the stone to the area. BBC notes that in 2000 an effort was undertook to try and move similar stones 240 miles from Wales to the site using land and sea technology that would have been present around 3000 BC. The effort failed.
Wired reports that that the rocky outcrop these geologists believe could be the source of some stone is located about 160 miles away.
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Comments (87)
BigMG
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 6:39pmIt’s hard to be an archeologist because of the tight reigns they are kept under. If an initial theory is faulty, it takes decades and sometimes centuries to overcome that bad theory and promote a better one. In turn, you are constantly under pressure to hedge up your own ideas.
Report Post »So, in short, it could take a very long time before someone is able to bite and claw their way to general acceptance.
One last thought. In just three hundred years we went from wind and horse to a giant obsolete space bus (okay, I need a better example of invention and innovation).
We may never know what leaps of technology may have contributed to moving giant blocks of stone hundreds of miles, but it will be interesting.
Susan Lane-Miller
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:31amAnd, that the stones are from Wales was reported several years ago.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:26pmThese kinds of wild speculation remind me of the scene in The Little Mermaid where the albatross explains what all of the artifacts are he has collected.
Report Post »Larry E
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 4:55pmIt never fails to strike me as a bit strange when people living today can’t imagine how people thousands or even hundreds of years ago could have done what they most obviously did. They didn’t have power equipment, but they had their brains and had moved large stones and done other feats which we have forgotten how to do. Beats me how, but just because they lived thousands of years ago and didn‘t have computers and a written language that we know of doesn’t make them stupid or less intelligent than we are.
Look at cars or aircraft of 100 years ago compared to todays items. Were the engineers then not as smart as today’s? No, they just didn’t have 100 years of trial and error and knowledge to build on. If something happened and we could no longer build cars and planes we’d be back past stage one and might take who knows how long to get back to it.
Report Post »nowhereman
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 4:49pmThey moved them using magnetic levitation, a long forgotten secret processed by the ancients. Edward Leedskalnin who constructed the mysterious Coral Castle Rock Garden in Homestead, Florida had discovered the secret.
Report Post »nick7
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 5:09pmReally? What happened to that ability since we don’t have it now without equally [or greater] understandings and abilities.
I bet you believe in the mayan calendar too. They were just an advanced people: witchcraft, child sacrifice and the like.
Report Post »nowhereman
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 11:44pmHe worked alone. No one ever saw him move the large rocks. When he died the secret died with him.
Report Post »Spooky_dude_
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:26amLets figure out how to use this power to levitate Barry and the rest of his communist loving clowns out of this country. Maybe to the Middle East where they belong, my choice would be Iran
Report Post »gemmeri
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 4:27pmIf, if, if… We could play what if all day long about ruins all over the world, but the fact remains we will never really know for certain because we weren’t there. I have been a student of history most of my life & I believe that their dating methods are suspect & their theories are even more suspect because we do not know why they picked this type of stone & what the original intention of Stonehenge was. Oh, I know they theorize religious practices & astronomical observation which I believe is partly correct, but what if Stonehenge was built by a mostly sea-faring people so long ago that the original purpose of the stone circles was mostly practical as well as mystical. If one subscribes to the theory that water levels may have been between 200 to 800 feet higher at times in our distant past prior to some great cataclysm or global change (say, like shifting of the poles &/or major solar flares), then it would not be out of line to theorize that the existing ruins left in the world may have been combination beacons, dry docks & landmarks. It may be that they became religious icons after most of the human population was reduced after a global change. I believe it’s altogether possible for the stones to be floated on huge ships, even if only one at a time per ship. Think or imagine a sea-faring people… They would have had ships of all sizes & purposes, not unlike the way we transport cargo containers of goods from foreign countries using huge freighters.
Report Post »Chinajim
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 3:42pmDoes my heart good to see that many of the people on the site are not the steriotypical followers of G.B. as so many of my co-workers think of them as a bunch of inbred beer swilling trailor park trash. I have heard them say this but being a quite academic who has put his violent past behind him I have kept my mouth shut. The two individuals mentioned in the story come from good institutions I myself attended Leicster for a semester until my funds ran out was working on a degree in archaeology now state side I am resuming it and hope to finsh my masters by 2013 or 14 Best to all and have a merry Christmass Happy Hanukah and for our Pagan friend out there Saturnalia
Report Post »TheLeftMadeMeRight
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 4:32pm“I have heard them say this but being a quite academic who has put his violent past behind him I have kept my mouth shut.”
Until now, LOVEY have you seen my pipe….
Report Post »David in MA
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 3:32pma million slaves pulling a rope or hot air baloon.
Report Post »Protoham
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 3:08pmHow do we know what technology existed 3000 years ago? Maybe they used their anti-gravity beam to move the rocks.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 3:34pmThey used a sky hook, silly- every third grader knows that. Sheesh, talk about over complicating an issue. ;)
Report Post »puddleglum
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 7:29pmThats right, Wolf, just send the new guy out to the truck to get one so we can show everyone.
Report Post »In the O.C.
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 2:41pmI sure wish I could weigh in on this subject with valuable insight, but I can’t. Nevertheless, I think the whole issue of the hows and whys and who-done-its of Stonehenge are fascinating. With all of the study of this ancient construct, we can really only “guessimate” when they were built, as well as the rest of it. Just educated guesses since none of those who built it thought to consider us who would be visiting it on our vacations in the 21st century – darn them! That will be only one of the questions I will be asking when I’m finally with the Lord. “What the heck IS that thing???”
Report Post »Gann0n8r
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 3:25pmAnd the Lord’s answer?
Report Post »“I dunno. You’ll have to ask the Druids, and I sent them to Hell”
URKiddinMee
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 2:39pmWhat I want to know is who left a “Plumber’s Helper” in the foreground of the picture. Was that from the Stonehenge builders?
Report Post »Quencher
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 2:59pmI have done that many times! It actually is a pocket rule commonly called a “yoyo” by construction workers. It is placed in the photo to give perspective for estimating the size of the subject. It appears that maybe about a meter, or 3 feet is extended. Works to give a little idea of how big the subject is. The one who took the photo knows just how much of the rule shows and can get an idea of the size of the subject for those not present at the photo taking.
Report Post »Floorguy
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 5:05pmI thought it was a locking tape measure
Report Post »Stubby01
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 2:31pmThe environmentalists must have went nuts when this thing was being built. Did they have “red tape” back then to build it? Probably not, cause it got built. One way or another aliens were involved, mostly illegal aliens.
Report Post »melcourage
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:31amGood one Stubby01,,,but no one has mentioned GIANTS in the land. Biblically speaking, there were Giants. Most likely all over the world,, if you go to the church in the center of Kona Hawaii, they believe Giants built this heavy duty structure of huge beams of timber. Even have a footprint as proof.
Report Post »Personally, I enjoy the overall mystery of these ancient sites.
Dan_o
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 1:13pmI think the largest stone at Stonehenge is estimated at 40 tons. Consider the “Western Stone” of the temple in Jerusalem. It is 570 tons. Can you imagine all the permits they had to get to move that thing???
Report Post »DanRShaw
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 1:35pmUnder the Obama administration they wouldn’t have been moved at all. The environmentalists would have raised such a hue and cry the project would have been disapproved by the EPA, the State Department and Unions unless union labor was involved and then they would have been for it.
Report Post »gordonknapp
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 2:23pmJesus said if we had faith the size of a mustard seed, we could throw a mountain into the sea. Somebody had faith.
Report Post »ginger100
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 12:41pmThe builder was probably one guy and he used an EZ move furniture mover.
Report Post »ginger100
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 12:46pmCase closed
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 11:10amThirty years ago I was Stationed at RAF Brawdy, a few short miles from this site in Wales. I did go visit Stonehenge, but didn’t tarry long, as it intrigued but as a drunk ( then ) I had better things to do, or so I thought.
Report Post »It never ceases to amaze me the intrinsic arrogance of modern man. Who if he would bother to cast his gaze upon his environ and fellows could clearly see that we, as a commonality of peoples digress in intuitive logic and intellect. We might have what we think are “new” technologies, and they are to us, and to our limited store hold of historical data, but are they “new”?
IF you belive in the word of GOD, and I do, one eventually contemplates the state of mankind from the fall to present and how “sin” has not only corrupted man but nature as well. Sin, and it’s presence is not static, but is in a constant state of degradation. Knowing this, one can only surmise that our ancestors were not only vastly smarter and more physically capeable than we are, but were better looking to boot. One need only look towards the Socialist-in-chief to see to which I ref ere as a case in point.
While being vastly superior in capabilities, our ancestors made egregious spiritual errors on numerous occasions, thusly we get places like Stonehenge.
There is but one GOD, and one way to KNOW Him, Jesus is the doorway, the way, the truth and the light. Though He was more likely to have been born in the month we call sepetember, I still wish you all a very merry Christma
Dan_o
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 11:42amI’ve often thought that myself. If not simply from environmental conditions such as television, spell-check, and calculators, are we not less intelligent now, as a whole, than even 200 years ago? The evidence is pretty clear when you look at “micro-evolution” (for lack of a better term). Information is continually lost as kinds are interbred and “desirable” traits are sought. It is an incredible interesting topic and another area where an unbiased look at the evidence points to God as Creator and an historically accurate Genesis account. All glory to God.
One clarification, though, I believe God set nature on it’s course of hostility with man because of sin, not that sin itself changes nature. I can’t take the time to confirm, but I’m pretty sure that is what the account of the fall states.
Report Post »Texas Lady Juanita
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 2:12pmVery well said. I like to think that no matter when He was born, it is wonderful that we are celebrating the fact of His birth. – and that is wonderful
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 2:24pmTERESA2010….you need to get your Tourette’s under control. In one post you applaud a defense of Christianity, then when another person defends the ten commandments you denigrate that person? Make up your mind kid.
PossumRoadkill
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 11:10amI put them there. I has a slow week and extra stones laying around…..
Report Post »Eddie
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 1:44pmI knew someone would ‘fess up to this matter sooner or later and I congratulate you for your honesty and courage in coming forth with your confession. Now about those crop circles…….
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 3:43pmPossum had absolutely nothing to do with the crop circles- I should know: I was there.
Report Post »Miyegombo Bayartsogt
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 9:24amLong before Jesus trundled across the dirt tracks of benighted Bronze Aged Palestine, prehistoric Europeans were busy building huge open air pagan palaces. Proud Paleolithic people piously worshipped myriad mysterious gods long before mythical Moses smoked the Sini bush and started seeing stoned tablets etched with grubby banality. These monoliths are exclamation marks in granite for a lost culture modern folk can only imagine. For Druids everywhere, this is truly a hearth-warming Winter Solstice story filled with seasons greetings from our heathen heritage in a forgotten past.
Report Post »sdarbro
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 10:18amI saw on television that all Druids are vehemently ugly which is why they wear hooded cloaks. Also, they speak in flowery cheeseball alliterative poetry that assures no chance of hot luvin’…ever.
we Christians hijacked your holiday. Deal with it. what are you gonna do about it? Build a stone another stone structure? You just got a heathen beaten. BAM! See you again on easter, druid.
Report Post »blazer809
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 10:21amThe enemy comes with that aweful look of finality. Like a poor bird with one wing you frantically circle the ground creating that magic patch of earth, safety in the make believe . Is your human invention of ritual and fire the best hope we have or could I find that elswhere? We must believe in what moves the soul. If it is nutured you are enabled to great things for many people, if not you find yourself alone with some candles, a lighter, three months behind on rent waking up in the middle of a star you drew on the floor.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 10:24amOr were they just used by the Pagans, just as even now Socialists and Atheists are moving into churches? God has never changed except on the account of the hardness of people’s hearts, and that‘s why God’s Commandments to Moses changes slightly every time Moses goes up on the Mount. Exodus 20:24 An alter of earth thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, thy oxen: in all places where I record my name I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee. 25 And if thou will make an alter made of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lifts up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it. 26 Neither shalt thou go up by steps unto mine alter, that thy nakedness be not discovered thereon.
I suppose they had better understanding way way back in the ancient days when the built Stone Henge, since they built it from stone which is not “Hewn” stone. Of course God commanded “If thou wilt make me an alter of stone”, meaning the which is not preferred by God, and yet if people do not understand that the Alter made of “earth” is actually the “Human mind in thought giving grace and thanks to God”, then an alter of stone is the next best thing.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 10:38amAnd of course why does God say if thou lifts up thy tool upon his alter of stone, thou has polluted it? For the same reason your first-born is your “Rock” in that your strength. And the reason God wants us to give our first-born to the Lord is because if a Father lifts up his tools upon his first-born child “His Stone” then the dad has polluted his child.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 10:42amMIYEGOMBO…“grubby banality”? So thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, thou shalt not bear false witness“ is ”grubby banality next to a bunch of druids dancing skyclad around a few stone monoliths? You need to find a new source for your cut and pastes…this one you’re using is far too angry to be rational.
Report Post »teresa2010
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 11:03am@sdarbro…..Way to go!!!
Report Post »teresa2010
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 11:04am@AvengerK….KEEP QUIET LOSER!!!!
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 11:16amDruids are preists which no longer exist, other than those who are disgruntled with the religion of their upbringing and choose to wear their dark robes and play with their dragon statuettes. The ancient religions in that area were completely eraticated , so the reconstructionists can only attempt at resurrecting these rites. You can always find a false polytheist by their militancy toward other religions, their clothing (which was more than likely derived from a movie, rather than the practical clothing worn by the ancients), and their devotion to Gods who they have no idea about.
Report Post »the point
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 9:16amCould it be that they were just smarter then than we are today ?
Report Post »pavnvet
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 10:01amYep, they didn’t elect Obama.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 3:49pmNot to mention, they rejected Romneycare and the Gnewt. Smart critters, those druids. So smart they aren’t even around today. Good thing, too- or the Turd would find himself chained to one of the altars at Stonehenge.
Report Post »jnobfan
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 9:11amCould they have slid the stones on the ice and snow during the winter?
Report Post »How they got the big ones up? The only thing I can think of is gradual earthen ramps.
Nunyunuwi
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 8:53amThe Ancient cultures across the Globe, Inca, Mayans, Aztec, Hopewell, Egyptian, and many others had Technology the Official Intellectuals DENY as it would change their paradyme of thought. They have found Wheels on the toys of these ancients, they had wheels, forms of machinery. They even found what the Smithsonian calls “stylized bugs” but found in Columbia & Egypt same time frame around I think about 1600bc, these little bugs are 2-3inch Airplanes same design on 2 different continents, interesting Aerodynamics show they would Fly if built. curious. I say today if all our Tech & knowledge Stopped. 1000-2000 yrs from now very little if NONE of our evidence of civilization would exist. So one never really knows the past, books exist of ancient flight so why not the wheel or other leverage machines to build such structures, much is known, but hidden from the public & education. Like Cahokia of the moundbuilders largest pyramid structure on Earth but who knows about it. Located in America, Pyramids found in Bosnia region (I think mind is tired lol) all new, but not in the media. So search and learn, the media has agenda’s and so do the highly educated, most won‘t accept new idea’s that compete with their learning or teaching.
Report Post »MR_ANDERSON
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 9:21amNUNYUNUWI,
While I agree with almost everything you said, I wouldn’t bring up the Bosnia Pyramids. I looked into that story when I first heard about it. Great story if it were true, but from the evidence I reviewed it is a propaganda story and nothing more.
But back to the truth of your statement, technology existed that our “elite” educators refuse to accept because it breaks known concepts. However, if you run known concepts and calculate accepted values into what it took to build the “Egyptian” Great Pyramid, the “elite” educators break their own concepts they force us to accept.
Report Post »Teclarosa
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 10:23amNumber one, it’s spelled paradigm, not “paradyme.” How can we take you seriously when you cannot use Google or spell-check for the word you base your argument on?
Report Post »Second, are you really arguing that because they used wheels – the absolute most basic form of technology and machinery – this somehow is a sign of highly advanced technology? If it was so advanced, why did we only find wheels? Next you’ll tell us they used wooden spears and fire.
Last, please use some common sense: ancient people created 2-3 inch “stylized bugs” that “would fly if built” because they were built and did fly: these were man-made copies of actual bugs that already existed. Most flying insects have the same basic design, so that they resembled each other should be a no-brainer (much like your entire comments, but I digress…)
Your entire post is ridiculous.
Nunyunuwi
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 5:54pmMR_ANDERSON
Report Post »Thanks for the update on them Bosnian location finds, I read an original article on it and have been to busy to follow up on their findings, will look into it further. The world if full of interesting things, no one has all the time to look into it all. yet.
louise
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 6:27pmI have often wondered what was lost in the fire of the Alexandrian Library.
Report Post »Msgt Ret
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 8:35amHow they got the stones there is one thing…how they got the ones lying horizontal on top of them is another thing……
Report Post »Tifn8r
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 8:36amGood point. We’d be fighting with cranes, trucks, and unions to get it done. It’d probably take us longer than it took them to get it balanced on top.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 8:41amMy 15 year old son came up with a highly plausible theory on how it could have been done. I’m encouraging him to submit it to scientists in Britain, it was that good, and forehead smacking “oh well yes, of course, it’s so simple” that it shocked me that I hadn’t thought of it myself.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 9:06amWell, don’t leave us hanging Ghost, what’s his theory?
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 9:55amGhostOfJefferson, just… pray tell, hmkay?
Thx.
Hope it would also work for the Trilithon in Baalbek.
Report Post »Frodo RinosBane
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 11:40amWe always try to intellectualize and think we’re much smarter than the ancients. But, as always, things can be quite simple. The ancients only needed to build a ramp of dirt, drag the things up, and then clear it away. No magic required. No UFOs required. Simple, human ingenuity.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 12:04pm@ Frodo RinosBane
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 11:40am
We always try to intellectualize and think we’re much smarter than the ancients. But, as always, things can be quite simple. The ancients only needed to build a ramp of dirt, drag the things up, and then clear it away. No magic required. No UFOs required. Simple, human ingenuity.
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Imagine yourself back thousands of years when lifespans were 300 – 900 years. How much “knowledge” could we acquire if we lived that long and our bodies weren’t ravaged by the effects of time and trauma! I suspect that man in ancient times was far more advanced than we tend to give them credit. But at the same time they had to learn those lessons from someone. There were GIANTS in those days. Does that mean in stature? Maybe. Generally however, I think it describes men of renown for the knowledge they possessed.
watashbuddyfriend
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 8:20amNow, it is not the SOURCE, but the HOW DID THEY GET THERE? My only explanation as to how they got to Stonehenge is/was in the day of Giants of Men! Was it the Tribe of Amalec (sic)?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 8:39amUm, I think human beings can be pretty ingenious and resourceful. That it was 4000 years ago doesn‘t mean that they didn’t have the same intellectual capacity that people today have.
Occam’s Razor suggests some uninvestigated and fully natural/human transport occured, there’s no need to invent magic and mythology to make it happen.
Report Post »5headspro.com
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 7:47amSo ice transport? How could that be? There was no ice present back then. Or wait, did it melt thousands of years ago when the “priests” arrived in their SUV’s?.?.?.?
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 9:08amThey were all driving Chevy Volts back then so, there was plenty of ice.
Report Post »cuinsong
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 3:55amI am supposed to believe that people were smart enough to figure out the movement of the planets and built mega monolithic sites but did not use the wheel? Seems to me this is a flaw in thinking. You got to be a real slow thinker to believe they built Stone anything!
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 6:49amYea, you would think they’d at least be smart enough to use tree trunks and roll it, like the Egyptians used cane.
Report Post »HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 6:55amInca’s had no wheel but built huge stone structures in the mountains. Highly civilized but no wheel. Go figure.
Report Post »nelbert
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 7:25amNever underestimate human ingenuity. And a wheel is only really useful on a smooth terrain.
Report Post »jasmer
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 7:36amIf contemplation’s not your strong suit, you can watch it on YouTube. Search for “Stonehenge” and you’re bound to find a couple of video clips where guys single-handedly move cement blocks the same size as these using nothing but fulcrum and lever.
Report Post »Calm Voice of Reason
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 11:13amThere’s a guy who has ingeniously figured out a way that it can be done. He’s recreating Stonehenge in his backyard all by himself! Turns out, it’s not necessary to invoke aliens or supernatural agents in order to explain Stonehenge, it’s all simple machines and physics.
Report Post »http://youtu.be/-K7q20VzwVs
beentheredonethatsoiknow
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 2:07am“…in 2000 an effort was undertook…”?
Report Post »pylgrym47
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 6:35am“overtook” . . . yeah, I cringed on that too; I guess they don’t teach grammar these days
Report Post »voiceofreason305
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 7:20amundertookpast tense of un·der·take (Verb)Verb: 1.Commit oneself to and begin (an enterprise or responsibility); take on: “a firm of builders undertook the construction work”.
Report Post »ThisisnotMMA
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 8:14amBuilders undertook
Report Post »Construction WAS undertaken
The10thAmendment
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 1:34amForgot to address the idea of the pyramids. They too have a symbolism of mysticism, They are the reflection of, “As above, so below”, thus the representation at the same time of fire and water and the marrying into the hexagram of the ancient ritualistic practices of a pure religion mingled with an adulterous, and Idolatrous pagan ritualistic theology that presented the world with Kabbalah, or even idea’s found in the Kundalini practices prevalent in ancient Persia and the religions of the East. Those theologies are consistent with the serpent and the tree of knowledge of good and evil, worship of the sun, rather than the God of the sun.
But I digress. They are most assuredly spiritual highways. But whose highways are they? I suspect they are the practices of the sons of God who went in unto the daughters of men and caused them to err from the one TRUE God.
Report Post »louise
Posted on December 20, 2011 at 6:56amInteresting addition: The reason for all the reflecting pools in Washington DC was because of the concept of “as above, so below” which is found in freemasonry.
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Posted on December 20, 2011 at 11:56amI agree Louise. Legend holds that in both the archives of the ancient Macedonians that mysticism was commonplace. We read the exploits of Alexander and the paganism he joined with both Near and Middle Eastern paganism. Supposedly he found and unlocked hidden secrets. The Templars it’s been assumed found legends of Solomon and the supposed occultism (mysticism and alchemy) he reportedly practiced. If you look at the compass and the square you see the hexagram and the G representing both God and Geometry simultaneously (as above, so below). The “theory” is that through the ritualistic paganism practices of alchemy, man “eats of the fruit of the tree of knowledge, of good and evil, and does not surely die, but become as gods”. The spinal column wrapped by the serpent (kundalini) which rises through a mirror unleavened wisdom to open the 3rd eye.
In medical terms it is represented by the Caduceus. That’s also true for Pharmacology by both the Caduceus and the Star of Life. It’s a definitive acknowledgement that alchemy continues to create man into a god. Both are ancient symbols used in the practice of Kabbalah. That’s what genetic engineering is all about. The serpent in the Garden of Eden talking to Eve and convincing her that their is another way to eternal life, by becoming “as” a god.
Counterfeit to the actual Tree of Life which is the Word of God who brings life from Heaven.
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Posted on December 20, 2011 at 6:24pmThe 10thamendment,
I will probably get stones thrown at me for saying this… original sin started with Adam, not Eve.
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When Genesis 2:18-20 are read carefully we can see that God said,”I will make a helper suitable for him.” What does it say in the very next verse? “Out of the ground God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the sky and brought them to the man to see what he would CALL THEM. And whatever the man called a living creature, that was its’ name (nature). Just in case someones’ thoughts may go there….God was not into bestiality. The beasts of the field are a representation…of people…..who were already there…
There were other people on earth then. Scripture bears this out but the churches of men declare it differently than God has. Adam did not find what he wanted among them, so God gave him the desire of his heart….something from self…thus Eve.
The rest is history.
The10thAmendment
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:23amI’m not going to throw stones at you Louise. I’m not so sure that I agree with your assessment of the Biblical timing of events, but I do agree that sin came by man though, and it’s why Salvation would come through the seed of woman. I’ve often wondered what would have happened had Adam not eaten of the fruit of the tree of knowledge. Would God have created another Eve?
The central theology of the Garden of Eden was choice. The Tree of Life is the shadow of the Messiah (hence if the root is holy the branches and fruit will be holy. Those who refrain from choice #2, the tree of knowledge of good and evil, attain everlasting Life. The fruit of the Tree of Life is the manna that came down out of Heaven, the body of Christ Jesus, and the Spirit is the water that gives sustenance to the regenerative seasons of fruit bearing. Thus life everlasting. Likewise we know that the tree of knowledge of good and evil represents the anti-Christ (it could in reality be just about anyone not a slave (servant) to the burden of the Lord.), and what gives that fruit sustenance is wormwood (false doctrine of a fallen spirit).
I personally hold that man has been on earth for a lot longer than the human timescale suggests with a cursory reading of the Scriptures. God was simply concerned about how He could reconcile the created thing.
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Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:44pmStonehedge & Pyramids in are symbols of spiritual highways. They are attributes to God‘s Traveler’s as commanded. Isaiah 35:6-10
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Posted on December 20, 2011 at 1:23amThat is an interesting mysticism take on a passage that is wrought in symbolism. Compare the Holy Way to Malichi 3:1. It’s most certainly a prophetic passage, but it is more to the central idea of Scripture of the coming of the Messiah as represented by the return from captivity of the Jews from Babylon (that’s the “anointed joy” of the wayfarers) to the Holy City of Jerusalem. The parched ground is a deceptive occurrence that we can apply anytime we go on a desert on foot for long periods of times. Mirages are commonplace but only foolish people will rush to the waters they perceive. The Christ will lead His people home to where dreams and visions will become the Salvation and reality of His choice people.
Yours is an interesting concept though.
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Posted on December 20, 2011 at 7:12amAngelrose:
When speaking of the Highway of Holiness in Isaiah 35: 6-10 please notice that in these verses ‘highway and roadway’ are singular……..’and a highway will be there, a roadway, and it will be called the Highway of Holiness. The unclean will not get up on it, but it will be for him who walks “in that way” ‘……..(vs 8).
There is only one Highway of Holiness; one roadway. It is not plural.
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Posted on December 20, 2011 at 2:42pmAnd I had always though that they were projects by groups of Hunter- Killer- Gatherers as an excuse to get out of the caveand out of earshot on weekends. It’s a tradition kept alive in workshops and golf clubs to this day.
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