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Did GOP Senate Candidate Tom Smith Compare Pregnancy From Rape to ‘Having a Baby Out of Wedlock’?

GOP Senate Candidate Tom Smith Compares Pregnancy From Rape to Having a Baby Out of Wedlock

Republican Pennsylvania U.S. Sen. candidate Tom Smith. (Credit: AP)

HARRISBURG, Pa. (TheBlaze/AP) — The Republican candidate for Senate in Pennsylvania on Monday seemingly compared the decision to abort an unwanted pregnancy resulting from premarital sex to one conceived through rape as he defended his opposition to abortion in all cases.

Tom Smith, who is challenging Democratic Sen. Bob Casey, made the remark after being asked how he would argue to keep the baby if a daughter or granddaughter were to become pregnant as a result of rape. Smith said that his daughter went through “something similar” to rape: “Having a baby out of wedlock.”

In the Senate race in Missouri, Republican candidate Todd Akin drew condemnation from Democrats and many Republicans when he referred to “legitimate rape” in discussing his stance against abortion in all cases. The Missouri congressman later apologized for saying that women have a natural biological defense against becoming pregnant because of rape.

Speaking to reporters after an appearance at the Pennsylvania Press Club, Smith said he did not condone rape but was categorically opposed to abortion under any circumstances, including rape or incest.

“I lived something similar to that with my own family, and she chose the life, and I commend her for that,” Smith said, adding that his daughter was not raped. “She knew my views, but fortunately for me … she chose the way I thought.”

After comparing the decisions raised by rape and out-of-wedlock pregnancy, Smith was asked a follow-up question about whether the two were similar. He replied: “No, no, no, but, well, put yourself in a father’s position. Yes, I mean, it is similar, this isn’t, but I’m back to the original, I’m pro-life – period.”

Asked to clarify, he said: “I’m not going to argue about the method of conception. It’s a life, and I’m pro-life . It’s that simple.”

Smith’s answer is confusing in the fact that he initially answered “no” when asked if pregnancy from rape and having a baby out of wedlock were indeed similar. Then in his next sentence says, “Yes, I mean, it is similar” and claimed that he is pro-life in all circumstances. Rest assured, the issue will now be the most talked about in the Pennsylvania Senate race.

Smith had not released a statement regarding the remarks on his official website at the time of publication.

Watch the interview that aired on WGAL here:

Comments (95)

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  • cookcountypatriot
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:45am

    the sickest thing of all about the prized pro choice movement is that abortion is now used as birth controll…..and speaking of rape…what should be looked into is the ages of the people impregnating these 13 ,14 ,15 ,16 yr old girls……..something tells me these BOYS are in thier very late teens and early 20,s….now what would that be called??

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    • PA PATRIOT
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:46am

      No matter what the issue, the left will try to demonize Smith.
      Although a reformed democrat, (if there can be one) we need Smith now.
      Bob Casey is two faced and speaks out of both sides of his mouth which is nothing more than a horn for Obama. CASEY MUST GO

      Tell us how you really feel Patriot….!!!!

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 2:52pm

      [what should be looked into is the ages of the people impregnating these 13 ,14 ,15 ,16 yr old girls]
      You want to talk about some sick things? The virgin Mary was 12 years old when she was married off to a 36 year old man and impregnated by whoever at 12 or 13. How sick is that? And then to build an entire religion on it…

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  • Conservative Hippy
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:07am

    you are all dumb… people in states pay taxes… congress passes laws to spend that money… if you are representing your state, you better damn well make sure they get their moneys worth, if you know its going to pass no matter what. You can still be a principled small government guy by voting against the spending, but if you know the spending is going to pass either way… You would be doing your state a disservice by not getting your states share. your states citizens paid into it… why should you let all that money go to some other state?

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  • PutMoreOnMyPlate
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:05am

    Make the rapist pay child support but seriously people put too much weight in what is said and not the meaning. Confusion and hurt comes from ruling out the meaning to begin with so perhaps people just need to shut up and stick to their principles. I have no regrets being pro-life in every instance and refuse to sugar-coat my reasoning. I find it hateful to encourage someone to harm the self and take the life of another. I told someone that while I regretted it, I smoked while I was pregnant (knowing full well that my son was a separate individual not needing to suffer from my stupid habit) and even being pro-choice she was disgusted. So really if it‘s the woman’s choice why are we disgusted by pregnant smokers?

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    • Winedude
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:19am

      I think you answered your own question. You recognized that by smoking you were harming the fetus through no fault of its own.

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    • cmonnow
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:14am

      really !?!?? make a rapist pay child support ?? tie a woman to her rapist for financial support ? “..oh honey, your rapist father is going to help you with college”

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    • mmmmarilyn
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:14am

      Make the rapist pay child support? From prison?
      Idiot.

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    • RGFROMTEXAS
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:32am

      Let the Rapist pay child support ???? From Prison ???

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    • HOOT_OWL
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:15am

      So if they make a rapist pay child support from prison ,
      that would mean the check that the woman would receive,
      would be coming from the government, and then you have
      unwed mothers having babies, on the government dole too.
      I see where this is going.

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    • Atrum Angelis
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:29pm

      In all instances? What about if the life of the mother is in danger?
      Would you trade one life for another? Or even lose both?

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    • PutMoreOnMyPlate
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:29pm

      I see the point is lost here. I was being sarcastic. And yes it is wrong to smoke while pregnant and that was the point I was making that it was wrong. The question is to those that think it’s a sacred right for the mother to kill their offspring using the argument that the fetus inside them is just a sac of cells for slaughter. I would never condemn someone for making that decision. But don’t make me pay for it. It is out of hatred that Planned Parenthood works out its reasoning and I do not condone it. Have some convictions and learn to disagree.

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    • PutMoreOnMyPlate
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:38pm

      And why in the nine blue hells would all child support or any support have to come from the government? Why can’t we have more community based support for the community? I’m so sick of hearing the “taxpayer” argument about raising kids. No one has the sense of charity anymore and that is where we fail. We‘re no better than the twenty people witnessing a man’s face being stapled shut while taking no action. My point is people just need to shut up that have the power to do something and do it. Me? I’m a 28 year old mom with a beautiful son and no money/power to my name. So all I can do is reach out where I can when I can. All life is sacred. And if it came down to the health of the mother, tell me how many abortions were done in the last year alone that were done for the health of the mother compared to the ones out of basic convenience. Even rape pregnancies that do happen tell me how many of those? They don’t even make 1%. So tell me why the other 99% had to happen? It all boils down to convenience and even removing evidence of the crime that was committed. I see rape abortions as more punishment to the mother than the rapist and I hate how backwards that is.

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  • freedoug
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:58pm

    Look Guys in the GOP this really isn’t that difficult.
    Give the Pro-aborts every child conceived as a result of rape or incest (<1.5% of abortions according to Guttmacher Inst.). Make rape and incest a capital crime. 1st Problem Solved.
    Stop all funding for elective abortions and make it a crime for doctors to perform one except to save the life of the mother. Planned Parenthood would be out of business in one year. 2nd Problem solved.
    Relax restrictions qualified couples who want to adopt children in the U.S. 3rd Problem solved.

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    • american_rose_126
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:07am

      It is HIGH time rape and incest are prosecuted this way! I don’t know one victim/survivor of rape/incest who does not wish to God that it was prosecuted like murder…it SHOULD be! Now THAT I can get behind! It is tough on a horrific and evil crime, and also compassionate to the victims. It shows you value their lives and what they have been through! As it stands–many never come forward or try to prosecute their attackers–because they KNOW that the evil bastard will be out in 3-5 yrs. or less…and they are afraid.

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    • Winedude
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:23am

      You’re killing me here…you’re absolutely against abortion because it is (in your mind) killing. Then, in the same breath you say that rapists and those convicted of incest should be capital crimes. How hypocritical can you be…typical neo-con double-speak?

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    • Jeffcoopmusic
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:41am

      @ WINEDUDE

      Ah, but that view makes much more sense than the alternative, which is to terminate an innocent life and allow the criminal to live. Much better to terminate the criminal and allow the innocent to live. I think you’ll agree that the latter makes more sense whereas the former is ridiculous.

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  • seraphimtheapologist
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:54pm

    This is precicely why we need to stay off the social issues. We have the economic message down pact. We need to stick with what we know. Before we can convince the world to follow our morality we should prove to the world that we are right on the economy. Note to all GOP candidates! Shut up about the social issues. In the words of the fish faced thing from Return of the Jedi “It’s a trap!”

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    • cmonnow
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:16am

      you can’t. the social issues are the bread and butter of the working class.

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    • mmmmarilyn
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:16am

      The libs are loving this.
      The WHOLE republican campaign has now become about Women’s Rights.
      And it gets worse every day.

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:30am

      You have the economics issues down pat?

      Yup, keep going with that “trickle down” mentality.

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    • DRAGONSEED
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:23am

      “Note to all GOP candidates! Shut up about the social issues. In the words of the fish faced thing from Return of the Jedi ‘It’s a trap!’”

      You got that right! If ONLY they could HEAR YOU.

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    • FREEDOMoverFEAR
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:05pm

      Pious politicians will cost Republicans the election at this rate. Oh well Romney wasn‘t much of a catch I’d rather let the Liberals see what they get when they have Obama for four more years. It’ll be the Liberals that get hurt the most in my opinion because Conservatives are self-reliant.

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  • jmlsmb
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:50pm

    What I believe he is trying to say, in a very fumbling way, is that rape and out of wedlock pregnancies are both UNWANTED.
    He is not saying they are the same thing. The left is just trying to make him sound crazy. These guys should be smart enough to know they are going to be set up when asked about this issue, so for heaven’s sake think about what to say, and say it clearly!

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    • american_rose_126
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:01am

      exactly! it honestly is not that difficult to show a little compassion while expressing your pro-life views…is it that hard to explain you are pro-EVERY life? Including the victims of rape and incest? These guys come off as creepy, and in Akin’s case–a total junk science nut job, and utterly lacking in any sort of empathy or compassion. Is it so hard to express your concern for the mother’s life too? Acknowledge that SHE is ALSO a victim of a horrible crime–and that her life and recovery matter GREATLY! But apparently these jerks would rather diminish and minimize victims of rape and incest and act like it’s so super rare–it doesn’t really matter…and it’s no different from out of wedlock pregnancy, etc. etc…they are as sick as the liberals!

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:24am

      @AMERICAN ROSE- that’s because the GOP/RINO’s in the rebublican party attack anyone who is strictly pro-life who states their unvarnished opinion, as opposed to the party line which is we’re opposed
      to abortion EXCEPT in the case of incest and rape.

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:49pm

    well, that is two GOP candidates down, how many more has obama paid off or extorted/railroaded?

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:47pm

    someone anyone tell all of these GOP MEN to STFU. they are playing right into obama’s paws. this is getting RIDICULOUS and they are scuttling their campaigns.

    or is it they have been paid off TO sabotage their runs.

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  • Rightlife
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:31pm

    Oh F’ , The GOP is so Doomed with all these uneducated fools speaking out.

    What is happening, Ahhhhh!!! Teaparty, Birthers,Romney,…. We are Doomed.

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    • DarkJello
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:36pm

      Dude is pro-life, but explained the matter very poorly.

      Owebama is much, much better at having his cake and eating it too.

      Still disagree with the POTUS, just to clarify.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:38pm

      its a little confusing to predict what the republican party will think from one election to the next. One year they are all about social issues and running up the debt and then 4 years later they dont want to talk about social issues and say economy is most important

      The funny thing is, they never fix either of them….

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  • TJexcite
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:21pm

    This still has to be worked. What does the government have to do one way or another. Pay to stop it, Pay to prevent stopping it or weep for lose of the life and have no power to pay or stop it.

    When it comes to rape, even if the baby is aborted the perp should have to pay child support on top of his long jail time.

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  • Wool-Free Vision
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:09pm

    Calling this kind of discussion a political minefield is a very fitting analogy, and as such, it is no wonder that politicians have such trouble getting through them.

    Consider, a principled man with a destination in mind taking long strides across the minefield, not compromising his trajectory but maintaining a straight line, will only have to take but a few steps in the minefield.

    But a politician, wishing to modify his position and compromise his trajectory in an attempt to sidestep, serpentine, and negotiate his way around each and every mine in the field, this misguided fool will blow himself up every time.

    Trying to outthink or manipulate mines (minds?) will only demonstrate that you are dumber than the mine. But to move ahead with long strides and clarity of purpose will demonstrate, as ever, that fortune favors the bold.

    Dear Conservatives, maintain your principles, do not compromise an inch to try to appease the detractors on the left. Do not think for a second that ANYONE will respect you for compromising. Appeasement is a dirty word for very good reason: It never works, it only shows that you are weak.

    Need proof? Look no further than John McCain. He straddles the aisle, and therefore has no credibility with anyone on either side of it.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:15pm

      remember the McCain

      i like it

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    • FREEDOMoverFEAR
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:11pm

      Just becuase someone asks you a question doens’t mean you have to answer it. It’s called dancing and politicians need to be well practiced at it. He should have just said, “you know what really concerns me? The state of the economy.”

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  • TJexcite
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:09pm

    They know his is pro-life, so lets ask a question where he either shots himself in the foot by being radical as to no exception which 22% of the people share or shots in the other foot by showing hypocrisy of pro-life but allow exception.

    Media made story and only the media will care. Rape is the same as what 41% of the babies born out of wedlock.

    Watch for it, saying rape is no racist as most out of wedlock babies are African-Americans.

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    • mmmmarilyn
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:19am

      When do these legislators show ANY concern for the rape victim, not the potential fetus.
      Why do Republican absolutely hate women and hold them in such low esteem?

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  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:08pm

    There is that saying…..
    Why should the baby be punished for the sins of the father?

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:45am

      1st, if it is an embryo, it is not a “baby”.
      2nd, if your father was also your uncle, would you be proud to say that you weren’t aborted when at the time it would have absolutely not mattered to you?
      Conception is not the moment of sentience. I’m sick and tired of these zealots that want to throw themselves onto the sword for some bronze age mythology whose god even ordered suckling Amalekites infants to be put to death and allows for an ENORMOUS amount of miscarriages.

      Oh whoa as me! Some woman wants to abort their embryo! Call the almighty theocracy to swoop in and chain her to the bed! We‘ll force her give birth and then we’ll be forced to provide welfare for life! Hooray! Victory! Wait, why did we loose another election???

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    • mmmmarilyn
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:04am

      Attacker and rapist are really not the same as ‘father’.
      Get a grip.

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    • PutMoreOnMyPlate
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:42pm

      There is nothing in this world short of God coming down Himself and telling me that I am wrong that the “embryo” is not a living human being and even then I would call Him a liar for giving me His Word that the child that grew inside me was my son even before I could determine him to be one. In fact you only encourage rape when you don’t hold the rapist accountable for what he did and a few years in prison only shows him more ways to rape or be raped and that accomplishes nothing.

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:11am

      [even then I would call Him a liar for giving me His Word that the child that grew inside me was my son even before I could determine him to be one.]
      Given you his word? Because a book written by men is much more believable? You’re simply personifying the illogical fallacies of humans. You are the embodiment of stupid.
      Oh no, don’t take his word directly from his lips. No no. Take it from a book written by a bunch of primitives that were nothing more than David Koresh and Marshall Applewhite in their time.

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  • freeberty
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:06pm

    Once anti- abortion laws are passed this will be the kind of man America needs to lead a new federal agency to investigate all pregnancies starting at conception. The agency would work with medical practitioners and home visits to monitor all stages of pregnancy to make sure the proper care and no harm comes to the child through a botch home abortion or a claimed miscarriage. He sounds just like the man we need to bring the charges and hopefully the ultimate punishment will be dealt out to those who treat an innocent life to such an untimely death.

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    • Atrum Angelis
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:50pm

      We want to shrink government, not expand it with new agencies. Most doctors don’t know what caused a natural miscarriage, so figuring out how would be difficult. Our police are already busy, dumping the investigation of hundreds of thousands of miscarriages on their laps would only spread them thin and effectively mean they wouldn’t be able to go after the criminals already running around.

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  • Exrepublisheep
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:52pm

    Can the baby tell the difference?

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:40pm

      apparently mainstream republicans think rape babies do not have the same rights as ‘regular’ babies. It doesnt make any sense but that is so often the case with the platforms of the republican party

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  • paperpushermj
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:51pm

    SmallBall.
    Lets not get sucked down the rat hole of divining the meaning of words or Meaning.
    .
    That’s SMALLBALL

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  • Eric_The_Red_State
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:50pm

    BLAZE – I AM BLAMING YOU for helping these stories along.

    The ELECTION is about the ECONOMY — !!!!

    S – T – O – P putting up anything that is a FRIGGIN DISTRACTION !!!!!!!

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    • The_Almighty_Creestof
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:07pm

      Um, the man is a candidate…if he is a moron when it comes to this, do you think he’ll be a “smart cookie” regarding the economy? I want a republican to win the race too…but does that mean we have to accept and vote for “any” republican?

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    • bpodlesnik
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:37am

      It is important. Being that I am from PA, I would like to know about the candidates I vote for, and if they say something stupid like this, I want to know about it.

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    • mmmmarilyn
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:07am

      It should be about he economy and the fact that Paul Ryan is really not an economist.
      But with more light shone on him we discover he REALLY is RICK SANTORUM.

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  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:48pm

    if abortion is wrong, then why is abortion after rape OK? At least this guy is honest with himself. But most republicans (including Romney) think abortion after rape is OK – and therefore they are hypocrites

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    • MODEL82A1
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:57pm

      SOY, If abortion on demand is such a hugely popular issue with everyone except the Right-Wing Nutjobs, why could it never be allowed to be put to referendum, or to go through Congress? Why did Roe v. Wade have to invent a “Constitutional Right” out of whole cloth?

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:07pm

      Model
      i dont know what you are talking about. i am against Roe v Wade as well because it is clearly a state’s right at the very least. Whether abortion is illegal under the Constitution (as it currently stands) is a debatable topic

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    • MODEL82A1
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:14pm

      SOY, I know you don‘t know what I’m talking about. It happens to me with Radical Leftists all the time. Especially the ones who are too dumb to even know they’re Leftists.

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  • BuddyBaker
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:40pm

    Is every Republican stupid? Quit shooting yourself in the foot. You just keep giving the Dems ammo to use against you. Just shut up about abortion. That’s not the issue this time around. JOBS, the ECONOMY, just keep on topic.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:45pm

      to some people, principles are more important than getting votes

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    • MODEL82A1
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:52pm

      SOY, So that’s the new Paulbot talking point, huh? Dr. Paul never wanted all those dirty, filthy votes in the first place. And those grapes were probably Sour anyway! Lol! Loser.

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:55pm

      Aggree.
      Although the media is baiting Republican through their Pointed questions.

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    • GoodStuff
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:25pm

      @Soy

      “to some people, principles are more important than getting votes”

      You mean like loading bills full of pork for your home district knowing full well the bills will pass, then vote against the bill so that you can continue to claim your a small government guy?

      Silly Paulestinians…they’ll never wake up. They’re stuck on stupid.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:36pm

      @goodstuff
      Yea, just like this guy….
      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/paul-ryan-explains-why-he-didnt-recall-requesting-stimulus-funds/

      Paul Ryan does the same thing. Do you go around criticizing Paul Ryan for it? If not, then surely you are a hypocrite

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  • 13th Imam
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:40pm

    This smells much like a DNC, Whitehouse, MSM collaboration to set up R’s with leading questions. Dead Fish is a master of this tactic.

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:51pm

      If that were true, it would make repubes the dumbest polticians on the planet. “DANG!! They done gotchad us agin!”

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    • jeanr
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:53pm

      If you are right, then they still are too stupid to lead. If a candidate can’t detect a trap a WEEK after another candidate made almost the same comment, then they probably have a room temperature IQ anyway.

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  • jeanr
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:39pm

    Way to go Republicans. At least these candidates express their stupidity before the election, so I commend them for their honesty. And I don’t know how old his daughter is, but father‘s who want to control their daughter’s sex lives are so creepy. Especially those weirdos in Colorado who pesudo-marry their daughters with a ring ceremony.

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:41pm

      It’s not such a bad thing to be thought “creepy” by people evil enough to advocate for extinguishing human lives by the millions. I call it murdering innocent babies, you can call it whatever you want, but at the end of the day it is a FACT that you are extinguishing human lives.

      How can you advocate for abortion and believe that you have a moral leg to stand on or even a conscience to speak of?

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    • jeanr
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:05am

      What does that have anything to do with premarital sex between adults or purity rings? While I disagree with you on abortion, I understand your view. I will never understand how any man feels like he has control over a woman’s consensual sex life tho. Acting like my daughter’s ****** belongs to me until she is married is most definitely creepy.

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:20am

      “I lived something similar to that with my own family, and she chose the life, and I commend her for that,” Smith said, adding that his daughter was not raped. “She knew my views, but fortunately for me … she chose the way I thought.”

      How is he controlling her? It is obvious from his quote that she made her own decision, and he commended her for it. Where is this creepiness of which you speak? What‘s all this about some cult’s purity rings? I don’t even know what that term means.

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    • jeanr
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:24am

      So if he was just commending her, why bring up rape at all? And it wasn’t just some cult thing. Under the Bush administration, organizations that promote abstinence and encourage teens to sign virginity pledges or wear purity rings received federal grants. The Silver Ring Thing, a subsidiary of a Pennsylvania evangelical church, received more than $1 million from the government to promote abstinence and to sell its rings in the United States and abroad.

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:41am

      Promoting abstinence is a commendable pursuit, but I don’t think it should be funded by taxpayer dollars. On the other hand, abortion is deplorable. How do you think I feel about being forced to fund that abomination through my tax dollars?

      Obamacare is an abomination, and neither it nor Planned Parenthood should be funded by federal tax money. This president must go, and all of his spending-addicted cronies with him. He can vote for partial-birth abortions in Illinois all he wants to, as I do not live in that cesspool. Abortion should not be a federal issue, it should be reserved for states to decide such an important social issue on a state-by-state basis. This goes for all social issues.

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  • Lordcsmith
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:35pm

    Luke, you removed your targeting computer.

    Stay on target
    Stay on target

    It’s the economy, stupid. Stop being goaded into this nonsense.

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:41am

      conservatism is more than filthy lucre, it’s adherence orthodox christian values and strict adherence to
      pro-life princables. It’s people like you, are why i’ll NEVER vote liberitarain.

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  • Leadthemtothelight
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:35pm

    This is an uncomfortable topic for any man to discuss on camera. I am not surprised we have seen some bumbles along the way. We are all human and capable of making mistakes verbally. I think it is unfortunate that as a society we are so divided by this administration that people are looking for faults that really don’t exist.

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  • MODEL82A1
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:35pm

    I told you last week that this is a new MSM Obama Campaign tactic: Scour the country to find any Republican, no matter how obscure, saying something stupid or provocative about abortion and then hang those words around the neck of the whole party. I said there would be more and more stories as the election approaches. Now, look for them to start saying that there is an “obvious pattern emerging…” I predict those EXACT WORDS.

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  • kaydeebeau
    Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:34pm

    Oh for crying out loud – with any GOP candidate – the baby is still alive – so we are supposed to embrace baby killing? Really? I will take a living baby with a GOP mis-speak (while trying to explain the sanctity of all innocent life) over a blantant baby killing platform of the demonrats any day.

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