Did James Carville Just Reveal the Democratic Strategy If Obamacare Is Overturned?
- Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:03am by
Mike Opelka
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Are the Democrats expecting to lose the battle over healthcare? Judging from the comments made by several prominent Dems, the party is prepping for what to do after the high court shoots down the individual mandate.
Two days ago, former DNC Chair Howard Dean told CBS Early Morning that he expected the individual mandate to be overturned.
Yesterday, CNN’s Legal Analyst Jeffry Toobin called the proceedings “a train wreck” and predicted that the individual mandate will “likely be struck down.” If true, how will the Democrats then spin the defeat to their benefit? Enter James Carville.
Last night on CNN, the Democratic consultant made a curious statement about what happens if the Supreme Court rules against the administration. He appears to already be ratcheting up the anti-Republican and anti-Supreme Court rhetoric in preparation, even tying a possible Obamacare defeat to the Bush-Gore election of 2000.
Consider Mr. Carville’s words regarding a potential defeat in the Supreme Court (after saying a defeat would be the “best thing” for Democrats because of rising health care costs):
“They overturned an election. And just as a professional Democrat, there’s nothing better for me than they overturn this thing 5-4. And then the Republican Party will own this health care system for the foreseeable future. … Go see Scalia when you want health care.”
In other words: the Supreme Court gave the country Bush, and now it’s going to take away your health care.
“This is not spin,” he reassured.
Really?
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TeaPartyForRomney
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:32amYeah and Harry agrees with Carville, so automatically we should believe it: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2012/mar/reid_overturn_obama.html
But if the arguments that are made in court are not great anti-Obama campaign ads, I don’t know what is.
Report Post »RonmeyPaulBotsrOdd
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:50am“How can one branch of Gov’t overturn laws passed by the other 2 branches, I can’t recall another case…” Upchuck Todd the democrat passed off as conservative yesterday on Idiot News. You bet this is the game plan! They are doing everything they can to create a racial/lower class/lib elitist war against the rest of America that has a clue.
BAM is in effect – just hope we can keep up with their flanking maneuvers and see past the screens.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:25amIn short what Carville is saying is: “Let’s try intimidating the supreme court”. This is truly a professional left in complete panic. Carville was the same “bright spark” that deemed conservatism dead with the election of Obama. Then the 2010 midterms came along….. Perhaps Nosferatu Carville should keep his veiled threats to himself?
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:44amTHE DNC issues emails probably every hour with instructions as to what WORDS must be repeated by every democrappy shill that turns up on TV—-Last week was WAR ON WOMEN. Jimmy Carrville and Debby Schultz and Muddy Waters ALL say the SAME thing—–Geeze ROBOTIC DRONES?
I don’t trust any of them.
When confronted with a FACT—-their brains go into Blame Bush Mode or they deflect the answer totally.
ENOUGH.
I know understand why Elvis shot that TV.
OMG 2012
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:45amIs their any way Obama can blame George Washington and our founding fathers..That constitution keeps getting in his way.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:00amRonmey_Paul_Bots_r_Odd <<< a.k.a. I am a smarmy leftist troll at this site for sh its & grins.
“How can one branch of Gov’t overturn laws passed by the other 2 branches"
Passed by 2 branches?
Nancy Pelosi We DEEMED it passed. Nancy did her shenannigans during a lame duck session in the days before Christmas Holidays, when the public is occupied with other things such tying up ends at the end of the business year or vacations or whatever.
Nancy Deemed it passed. Not only that we had to pass it to know what was in it. So what could be voted on? the unknown.
Here Joe Schmoe sign this legal contract without reading it. You'll have to sign it to find out what is in it. Would you do that when buying a ca or a house or contracting with a lawyer, doctor or any other professional.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:03amRonmey_Paul_Bots_are_Odd
‘Deem and pass’: Democrats’ new tactic for healthcare reform bill
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0316/Deem-and-pass-Democrats-new-tactic-for-healthcare-reform-bill
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/06/dems_will_deem_a_budget_resolu.html
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:11amRonmey& Paul (Ro)Bots are Odd.
“How can one branch of Gov’t overturn laws passed by the other 2 branches, I can’t recall another case”
“The self-executing rule began in the 1930s” -wiki <<< Surprised the 30s?
Some analysts have questioned the constitutionality of the self-executing rule.[4] Some lawyers and public advocacy groups cite the 1998 Supreme Court case Clinton v. City of New York relating to the line item veto,[9] and the 1983 case Immigration and Naturalization Service v. Chadha 462 U.S. 919 (1983) relating to the legislative veto to support these claims.[5][10] Others point to a 2006 case before the United States District Court for the District of Columbia regarding the Deficit Reduction Act, which, in part, ruled in favor of the self-executing provision.[4][11] That ruling was upheld on appeal in 2007, but never argued before the Supreme Court
"If the full House votes to approve a legislative rule that contains such a provision, the House then deems a second bill as also approved without requiring a separate vote, as long as that second bill is specified in the rule. "
NO SEPARATE VOTE? TRYING TO HIDE THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION BEHIND LAYERS OF OBFUSCATION.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:12amAvengerK: I think what Carville is saying is that if you don’t like the direction the Court is taking, you should give Obama 4 more years to appoint liberal justices. You think he‘s trying to mount a mob outside Scalia’s house?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:14amRonmey & Paul (ro) Bots r Odd
Remember the Louisiana & Nebraska purchases. To get individual legislators to vote for Obama care they had to pay so much “quid pro quo” money, so that the legislators would not immediately be run out of town.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:30amThis pumpkin Carvel is just another ideologue! I am quite frankly sick and tired of them blaming everything under the sun on conservatism. Democrats have done their fair share in this debacle, as have some Republicans; we need to restore sanity, fiscal restraint, and use logic and facts to fix what is broken with America. Communism/Socialism is NOT the answer; just take a gander over the ponds to see the failures there! We are not perfect either, because no man, or govt can be perfect, but Capitalism is the best thing around. We are not under true Capitalism now, more like crony capitalism or an oligarchy. The Constitution is the answer, not huge govt bureau’s which is akin to tyranny, we need the individuals to stand up and be smart and productive. Sure we need some regulations, but not these monstrosities like HR 3200 or Dodd-Frank. We need good sound logical and small articles, so everyone can understand them, then enforce them! We need to study real history and science, not this emotional tug called ‘climate change’, we all know the climate changes. There is a big disc in the sky that affects our climate, man‘s activity can’t change it but so much – unless you are speaking of a global thermal nuclear event. Let’s get real people!
Report Post »georgette
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:37amI try to stay very focused………reminds me of poker–who’s holding what?
I’m encouraging people to hold–don’t fold……call them on every bluff.
They like to throw so much stuff into the fan that you don’t know where to look.———I tune their words out–and watch their hands … I suspect their hands are very busy.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:44amCarnevell may be partialy right but I think he has missed two main issues. Many Democrats are embarrassed of our party. Myself, wife, 3 sons and 3 daughter in-laws all fell for Hope and Change. We all have been affected by Obama and won’t vote for him in Nov. My sons construction Co. has so much Fed. paperwork that 1 of my sons is always in the office. When Bush was in it was to pay bills and do payrole. My sons have had to hire an accountant to do that and jump thru hoops. The other thing the Dems will lose is the Latino vote by attacking this Zimmering who was protecting himself.
Report Post »JohnGalt
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:45amWhy not just send everyone who wants “free” healthcare over to Europe, simple solution and everyone is happy.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:48amJames Carville says “Go see Scalia when you want health care.”
Is he going to tweet Scalia’s home address just like Spike Lee?
Report Post »Liberal_Teacher
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:52am@JohnGalt That’s millions of people. Can you imagine how much it would cost? I thought conservatives wanted to keep the budget down! ;)
Report Post »johnnylingo
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:56amCar ville(cash for clunkers) and Harry the obstructionist Reid are both talking out of that orfice designed for facing the toilet bowl. Reminds me of Demons weaping and wailing and nashing their teeth. We need to throw these Socialistic,Communistic, Welfare advocates out. They redistribute our hard earned wealth while stoking their own pockets and creating themselves as a special class. Throw all the OBUMMERS OUT.
Report Post »RabidPatriot
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 12:04pmNever count your chickens before they are hatched. If the Supreme Court invalidates this unconstitutional law, maybe it will put a leash on this anti-constitution president and his minions.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 12:20pmLiberal_Teacher
John Galt is right. Overall it would be a cost savings.
I am reminded of a leftist that wanted to emigrate to Switzerland. they said they couldn’t because of racism. I suggested that they emigrate to The Netherlands because they were another liberal paradise in Europe & apparently they had a great deal immigration by people of color. Well if looks could kill I would have been dead. I suggested an eminently feasible solution & took away their took away their bi tching point.
You are the same way. You want to change everyone to look like you, act like you & believe like you.
Report Post »You couldn’t possibly emigrate to Europe & live the dream. Your bit ching days would be over.
AvengerK
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 12:39pmOh I see LLOYD DRAKO…so when Nosferatu..I mean Carville says “go see Scalia when you want health care” he’s really saying “Hey..let’s vote Obama back in to stack the deck with liberal judges”? He’s not making veiled threats by trying to incite illwill against the SCOTUS and Scalia in particular?
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 1:45pmLIB TEACHER…..let me do for you…what you fail to do everyday…educate. The CBO just released it’s new numbers on Obamacare. It’s now citing the cost as $1.76 trillion. You’ll recall (if you’re honest..not likely..but one can still hope) that Obama crowed about getting this in under $1 trillion dollars when he signed this disaster into law? Critics didn’t believe it was possible in light of the budget tricks, three card monty cost hiding and moving and pay offs throughout Obamacare. You simply cannot put 30 million additional people on Medicaid which is already staring at insolvency at the rosier than rosy budget projections and sleight of hand tricks the democrats and Obama were bandying about. So in less than 3 years LIB TEACHER…the cost of Obama..per the CBO…has nearly doubled and it hasn’t even started yet. No really…tell us again about costs sweetie.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 2:02pmoh and LIB TEACHER…please explain this curious provision in Obamacare:
Section 6001 of the health care law effectively bans new physician-owned hospitals (POHs) from starting up, and it keeps existing ones from expanding. What possible benefit is there to the American people by inhibiting the choice to go to physician owned hospitals? This provision was lobbied for by the American Hospital Association (read: heavily unionised) and the democrats and Obama were happy to oblige a generous supporter with some government strongarming of their competition.
Report Post »Yes what a superlative idea by Reid, Pelosi and Obama (with the help of the unions) throw thousands of contruction workers out of a job and make it harder to get quality health care at the same time. You really know how pick ‘em LIB TEACHER.
PlowMan
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 2:32pmI’d say if the Republicans own this thing then lets take it all out, go back to the beginning, and pass a law that makes sense and is about 50 pages long. If the federal government would stay out of the state’s business and lead by making sure we can buy health insurance across state lines, real in the malpractice suits, and keep the government out of regulating anything beyond safety then our costs would go way down! I am a dumb hick from the country & even I know these people are crossing the line when the line is our constitution.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 5:51pmcarville is right. The best thing that can happen for democrats is to get the individual mandate monkey off their back. People who wanted obamacare and people who like all the ‘giveaways’ that obamacare gave them will be fired up – all while conservatives are happy and go back to sleep.
Team obama will make the case that mitt romney is the ONLY person in politics that is still responsible for the individual mandate – and it will keep a lot of republicans from voting for romney
Report Post »LosLobos
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:31amWell said
Report Post »wewantchillywilly
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:30amCarville, go back to your crypt. i don’t think you were thawed out properly.
Report Post »RightyRoughneck
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:33amAmazing!!!!!
Report Post »scruffycat
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:46amHe is yapping on and on about HEALTH CARE, I thought this whole thing was over HEALTH INSURANCE, big difference. Its one thing to want the government to provide Health Insurance where if you break your leg or get cancer or something, the health insurance helps cover part of it. But wanting the government to provide Health Care, all the routine basic stuff, physicals, wellness testing, colds, flu, cuts, scrapes, seat cramps, high stool, thats TOTALLY different, and wildly expensive. How did we get from the ******** wanting government sponsored Health Insurance to suddenly wanting government sponsored total Health Care?
Report Post »scruffycat
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:49amthe censored word was L I B T A R D S. they are censoring that word now
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:04amand I thought it was BAS*****
Report Post »AmazingGrace8
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:11am@scruffycat (love your handle word as I am a cat lover)
On Glenn’s radio show yesterday, seems New Yorkers parents in one school have “bowed-to-the-school-masters” when several words like birthday, dinosaur etc. cannot be written or spoken…so censor here & there..thank goodness this site is New York/Texas so just to be safe, NEVER call Carville an “old-dinosaur”.
Report Post »I had many cats over the years and “scruffy” comes to mind of a black-green-eyed-scruffy cat I owned and she was my vermin exterminator…gophers in the yard…I would say to this cat & not a dog, Sic’Um and I would let her out the screen-door & she would nail that gopher in a New York minute. She would be on my head rest & stick her nose out the window of my car when we would take a ride in my car. She was also very lovable & had a brave-heart!
Have a great day!
hatchetjob
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 12:24pmCarville reminds me of Smeagol from “Lord of the Rings”.
Report Post »BeauBart
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 2:10pmHear Hear
Report Post »barber2
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:29amThe Democrats are just a party of angry, dysfunctional , anti-capitalists who have been screaming “ stolen election” as a prelude to all of their bullying since that infamous section. Not content with being told “ no ” by the majority of the electorate, they have since pushed policies to destroy American capitalism , to weaken our military, to heighten civil unrest through union mobs / Occupy anarchists/ racially inflammatory rhetoric, and to open our borders to more potential “ takers” who will help them destroy the ” system.” We do not need to fear our foreign enemies. We have the Democrats who seem to be bent on destroying American capitalism which will then destroy our future and our safety. ObamaCare ( the so-called “ Affordable Health Care Act ” – another Democrat 99% Big Lie ) is just another example of their War on Capitalism. Just another economic disaster, like home loans to the “poor/ minorities, which will collapse the system because it will not work. Just another Economic Disaster that they will foist on the gullible American public, and then Blame Capitalism when it – like their other nefarious economic schemes – blows up in disaster. The New Democrat Marxist Party : an economic disaster for American Capitalism. Just another so-called “New” Party which is clearly aimed at destroying the America we have always known. Not “change.” Destruction.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:39amI agree!!! let them tell it like it is……..more governent; more taxes; more of everything you DON’T want; and LESS of everything you do………….UN-ELECT EVERY DEMOCRAT IN EVERY OFFICE. They are a threat to the American way of life; promise you something for nothing and all you get is NOTHING!!…and they blame someone else!!
Report Post »almilford
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:56amBy it’s very nature, any form of gov’t is anti individual rights and Natural law.
The government IS the obstacle the people are the answer.
Report Post »mrqstixx
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:06amGreat post ! And Scruffycat above has a great point. Now it’s about total health care, free of coarse,
Report Post »instead of health insurace.
barber2
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:14amALM: Think they are missing you at some Occupy or hoodie gathering….
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 3:58pm@ Barber2 re: reply to ALM – what? What he said is basically a founding principle….did you perhaps read it too fast? That’s ok, happens from time to time with all of us :)
Report Post »jackact
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:28amThere is no secret strategy. The democrats continue to reach for the stars and come up empty handed.
Report Post »They will not get the individual mandate they seek.
End of story.
kaydeebeau
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:36amIf and until, we get the courts back within the confines of the Constitution as was intended by the Founders, we will still be the subjects to the king inthe courst. Read up on the original intent and power that was tobe the court system. Include in your study, the grievances listed in the Declaration of Independence to see what the founders thought of the courts, be sure to include the Federalist Papers (and if you want an easier to read version try The Original Argument book by Beck)
We have been brainwashed to believe that the Supreme Court is the end all be all in our country – they are not and never were supposed to be.
check out the book by David Barton – Restraining Judicial Activism.
Glenn is so right when he says – We are the solution.
We are the government and until we assert our sovereignty and the sovereignty of God and our local state government as designed in the Constitution, we are doomed
Report Post »TAXEVERYONE
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:27amPoor James, he still thinks his opinions mean something.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:27amWe have to overturn the bill…… Uhhhhh so we know what’s in the bill…. Hey Pelosi, go f%#€ yourself you old wrinkled bag of of turds…..
Report Post »GhostOfLiberty
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:51am@Soup, botox bitch. I like that. If you don’t mind, I am gonna start using that one.
Report Post »kaeh
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:26amIt’s James Carville–what do we expect!?
Report Post »KangarooJack
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:26amGladly Republicans will “own this” defeat of Obamacare. Dems STILL DON’T GET IT do they??? American Small Business owners have been waiting regarding this law. Waiting to see if they can afford to expand. Waiting to see if they can afford to hire more workers. What positively amazes me, continually for the past 3+years…It‘s STILL GW BUSH’S FAULT????
Report Post »TheLeftMadeMeRight
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:35amCorrect Phrasing: “Victory in defeating Obama’s Socialist Healthcare Takeover Scheme”
Report Post »changedone
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:08amIt will be really funny if Obama gets re-elected (God forbid!) and he says, “This is the direct result of the agenda of the previous administration…oh, wait! I mean, the previous president…”
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:25amThe administration’s lawyer is SO BAD, they are DEFINITELY UP TO SOMETHING!!!
Watch the other hand–bring us into socialism or communism and they can IMPOSE health care whenever they want. . . WATCH THE OTHER HAND!
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:50amNot sure even the most proficient attorney could doublespeak their way through the debacle that is Obamacare.
I agree much, much more is going on behind the scenes. Obama will virtually have accomplished nothing in 4 years when/if Obamacare is defeated (I’m not entirely convinced it will be just yet.) Oh, except he did eventually give authorization for the brave men to get OBL. I‘m sure we’ll see never ending commercials highlighting Obama’s awesome leadership. {sarcasm should be obvious}
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:55amDonald Verrilli Jr. is supposed to be one hot shot attorney too. You may have something there and this guy may have just thrown himself on a grenade for the cause. They were relying on this case to break the back of the Constitution now then in 0bama’s hopeful second term to go ahead and finish it off. Wolf Blitzer really attacked Verrilli yesterday afternoon and it seems that the media will certainly lay blame at his feet for loosing this ‘historic’ case. They will do whatever it takes to shovel the blame away from the administration. You’re right about expecting some other rabbit to be pulled out of the hat.
Report Post »Scarybones
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:59amNot so certain that that is what is going on. I believe that the administration twisted and turned so many ways to get this thing passed that they said whatever was necessary at the moment. Problem with their strategy is always that they will eventually paint themselves into a corner. Look at the “It’s a tax, it’s not a tax” verbage. They aimed their argument at whoever was in front of them. Now they have to defend this behemoth with everyone in the country watching. They are no longer whispering in this congressman’s ear or promising that congressman something antithetical. They are desperate to remain balanced on top of the fence but they are exposed now from both sides. In short, they can’t have it both ways.
Report Post »Liberal_Teacher
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:48amAgreed. They really screwed themselves by dropping their argument about taxation because they felt it would be a better political move to have this fight now. Fact of the matter is that the analogy to taxation would be the best chance that the Health Care bill has to be upheld. Paying taxes is an affirmative act that the government requires of its citizens and which it penalizes them for not doing. In that sense, the Health Care law isn’t much different from taxation — it also requires citizens to take an affirmative action or face a penalty.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 1:13pmLiberal_Teacher
Different Democrat Administration same sh it. The Roosevelt Administration used the same bait & switch with Social Security.
Tell the public it is a benefit & argue to the court it is a tax. Talking out both sides of his mouth FDR did.
FDR dictator for life ( I mean president for life or until death do us part).
‘You can pry the desk in the Oval Office from my deal cold hands” – Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 1:54pmLIB TEACHER….Obama even tried “it’s not a tax per se” to tippy toe his way around not telling the American people he just raised taxes on them. They couldn‘t argue that it’s a tax because the Federal government can’t tax Americans for not buying a product. Is this too difficult for you? You insult all Americans by reciting your talking points about “take an affirmative action”. It’s a totally flawed argument to say “you’ll eventually need health care so you must be forced to buy insurance”. I know people who are uninsured and simply pay cash when they visit a physician..yes even for surgeries. Places like the Mayo clinic offer payment plans to their patients who are uninsured. There are free market, viable alternatives everywhere there’s just no credible reason to have the government coerce you into buying health insurance or pay a penalty..or is that a tax..or is that not a tax per se?
Report Post »LouC57
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:24amIf you look at it, passing of BOcare will put us in a position not only to have a dictator, but we’ll likely be a communist country. No doubt there’s a back up plan, or a HUGE new crisis looming…invented of course.
Report Post »These people feed of satanic activity in my opinion, wily, slimy, sneaky lies upon lies until the truth is buried so deep only remnants remain.
“Man up, no one is coming to save you.” anonymous
LosLobos
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:29amWell said…
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:22amThe whole thing Dole won Florida was a lie, so the whole argument is built on a lie. To bad liberals are to stupid to understand a lie when they are told one. It’s strange, since all they do is lie, you would think they would recognize lies better than most.
Report Post »Tony
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:20amThe Democrats have a plan in case they lose and a plan if they win the case…both focussed on the reelection of Obama. We also have plans for whether we win or lose the case.
Plan one: If we the people lose and ObamaCare is upheld, we will turn out even more to defeat Obama and as many Democrats we can so we can repeal this thing and then demand reigning in the out of control Administrative, Legislative, and Judicial branches of government.
Plan two: if we the people win and ObamaCare is declared unconstitutional, see plan One.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:19amSame old same old. Blame anyone but themselves for a horrible HC bill. They only want power and do not care about Americans or America. Look at our debt. Could any sane person want to continue on that path????
Report Post »barber2
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:37amOnly a a group dedicated to destroying a “system” they hate.
Report Post »Hammerdown
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:18amSo are they trying to say things would have been better with Gore? We would all be riding bicycles everywhere.
Report Post »TAXEVERYONE
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:31amRiding bicycles more would be a good thing. Having Gore…..not so much.
Report Post »love the kids
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:17amIt’s almost like the Obama admin timed it perfectly for the overturn of healthcare as to help them in the election
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:31amYou give them too much credit. They are panicking. It’s a good thing. It’s not a done deal yet though.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:28amI’m mulling something over……..if O Care is over-turned in its entirely (one can dream, right?),
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/28/us-usa-healthcare-court-idUSBRE82L1CJ20120328
Will the leftist machine gain advantage since that issue will have been settled? What I mean is…..what will be the compelling reason then to oust the usurper for independents? Other than Obama’s zero-accomplishment record which he will blame on Congress, what will the R nominee (who will likely be Romney……not necessarily my choice but likely will be the one chosen as decided by the R machine for years ago)run on? What about Romney is going to sway Indies to him if the Supreme Court rejects O-care in June? The biggest motivator to oust Obama was to defeat Obamacare. Also, will the defeat of Obamacare activate the Dem base who will revert to their brainwash that “Dems help the poor”?
In my gut, I’m convinced and have been that we are getting 4 more years of Obama. I hope I‘m wrong but God help us if I’m not.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:25pm@copatiots
your intuition is correct. All of us tea party folks were energized because of bailouts, obamacare, stimulus, etc. IF the supreme court takes obamacare off the table – that is one less thing for obama to worry about. He can then point to mitt romney and say that he is a hypocrite because romney did the mandate at the state level.
The other thing mitt romney has built his campaign around – is a bad economy. There is a good chance the administration is going to monkey with the economy to make it FEEL better than it really is (they have had 3 years to plan it).
Because mitt does not have solid principles to stand on – these secondary issues will pull the rug from underneath him. In addition, the media loves romney now – but they will turn on him just like they did for Mccain in 2008.
Report Post »Byrn67
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:17amBush Bush Bush . Is that all thay can say i think its time to forget electing a president and Impeach the one we have . That is if we can drag soros to the states long enough to do it .
Report Post »drago
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:17amThey know its wrong, they know it isnt legal, so they do what they do best, use fear, play the blame game and sooner or later, they will play the race game.Its long past time to rid this nation once and for all, of the commie pukes.And whenever i bring that subject up,either on here or in real life, all i hear is, crickets………
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:31amThe Supreme Court needs a clean sweep as far as I am concerned. It would be great to clean out that FDR attitude of stacking the court again regardless of which party holds the power. They should go back to doing what they were designed to do and follow only the guidelines of the U.S. Constitution. Of course, the 0bama admin would love to essentially castrate the Constitution by precedent.
Report Post »Steve28
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:16amThey know the what we all know. The baby boom hits 65 and cost will go up dramatically. It has nothing to do with this law, but they will say see we told you even though the same would ahppen under the law and worse, but you will never see it. It is also an excuse and cover that their over reach of power and buying votes is failing and they have not made enough people dependent on the government tit as of yet, but hey they will not stop trying.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 10:03amAdd to that the fact that the lefties are creating a huge divide between the younger generation who they indoctrinated with their parents/grandparents. The youth have the highest percentage of unemployed and the college educated youth aren’t able to get jobs in their desired field while strapped in massive debt. They sure aren’t going to want to pay the taxes or the cost for the healthcare costs of the plus 65 crowd. This country’s known debt and “unfunded liabilities” are looming with fewer and fewer people willing to pay it.
The destruction of America is nearing completion.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:15am.
Report Post »I bet after the hearing yesterday the White House looked like a “Bunch of Monkey’s Humping a Football” trying to figure out how to spin this……..
SamIamTwo
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:13amthey definitely have back up plans…that is all they do…they don’t work for the taxpayers they muck around to rape the taxpayers.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:21amyup , well said
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:22amI’m not so sure. I think the panic button has been pressed.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:38am@gonzo
Report Post »I agree the button has been pushed and panic mode has been activated.
Onowicit
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:00pm@ Gonzo
I’m with you, Its panic time for them. Its CALLED OBAMA care and the corpse is beginning to smell, so now its Where do we hide the body?
Report Post »BONETRAUMA
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:12amThe alien has spoken. Hurry November
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:10amIt won‘t change anyone’s mind. Conservatives will be happy, Progressives will be mad as heck and Independents will be watching ‘Dancing With the Stars’ and miss the whole thing.
Report Post »AmazingGrace8
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:58amDancing With The Stars this season is fabulous. I watch American Idol, The Batchelor (if you care about my opinion, nope, but I’ll give it to you anyway..LOL) Ole’ Ben chose the brunette-beauty because he knew she was “unusual” and would give him a “good excuse” to bail-out. This guy did not want any of these ladies so instead of getting “trapped” and chewing off his leg to get out of a trap, he did not chose the “Its Not Unusual”(Tom Jones) and chose “The Unusual”. Anyway Gonzo, I can Zone-Out with these programs & stop thinking about the world on fire. Also, scary 2 part story line of “Body of Proof”. Hey how about a Fox News Alert right now…the Gambian rat of Africa is locating in the Florida Keys.
Report Post »And the beat goes on! Have a great day, Gonzo.
Gonzo
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 12:26pmNot bashing your show Grace, just people that don‘t pay attention to what’s going on and have no idea what a core value is.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:09amThis is the way they will spin it:
Blame Conservatives in the Congress
Blame Conservative Justices
Blame the Tea Party
Blame the Candidate (Republican)
Blame Bush
Make themselves appear as the victims
What else is new?
Report Post »GoodSis
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 4:35pmAgreed, Snow, and we’ll happily take the “blame”. They‘ll claim all that you’ve said, but if you substitute the word “Credit” in place of “Blame” in the list, it reflects the accomplishments Conservatives will be proud of.
Emblazed on the majority of Dems foreheads is “V” for Victim, whether or not they have been truly victimized, and accuse and hold responsible others for their plight. The Perpetrators are anyone still possessing a paycheck or asset they have not yet acquired a chunk of for free.
The blame-game will continue, and President Obama will have caused us to waste these crucial four years fighting his (or his Dad’s ) Impossible Progressive Dream of utopia instead of focusing on a real economic recovery. My hope is that in January we can start anew in Washington with the Presidency, Senate, and SCOTUS selections, to name just a few.
OBAMACARE FAILS:
Credit Conservatives in the Congress
Credit Conservative Justices
Credit the Tea Party
Credit the Candidate (Republican)
Credit Bush
Make themselves appear as the victims
If Obama fails, we can throw in a couple more things to credit:
Report Post »Credit Adherence to The U.S. Constitution
Credit Freedom
Credit Free Markets, Logic, Reason, Sanity, Aversion to Progressive Ideology ;-)
ChildofJesus
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:07amthey must know something we don’t and not knowing what they know worries me a little.
Report Post »AmazingGrace8
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:35amPresident Obama open-hot-mike-whispers to Russian “stooge-in-chief“ to relay to ”always-present-Putin” comes to mind for me. And how Glenn described Van Jones’ haunting words and I will repeat this until November & future…bottom up, top down & inside-out. Sounds like a “little-tune” that could be playing and have kindergarden children stand-up and do the dance of the bottom up, top down & inside-out and make it fun. Sounds & looks like a common theme…”Obama um,um,um!” I’ll stop now..Good Grief! P.S. Flash pic came to mind…other pics of shirtless President Obama & Putin shirtless…two “Masters of Their Own Country” riding horses together and shirtless. Ugh!
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