Did NYC Police Commish Accidentally Reveal Fact in Colo. Shooting? Tells Media Shooter Painted Hair Red and Said He Was ‘The Joker’
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(The Blaze/AP) — New York City’s police commissioner says the gunman in the Colorado movie theater rampage had painted his hair red and called himself the Joker — the villain from the Batman movies. But was he supposed to?
(Related: Suspect in ‘Dark Knight Rises’ Shooting Identified)
Commissioner Raymond Kelly said Friday that he had been briefed about the shootings that killed 12 and wounded nearly 60 others at a showing of the new Batman movie “The Dark Knight Rises” at a suburban Denver theater.
James Holmes
Kelly and his spokesman did not say who briefed him, although in a press conference on Friday afternoon Aurora, CO, Police Chief Dan Oates said he used to work for New York law enforcement. He declined to comment on the information when asked by reporters. .
Audio of Kelly’s statements can be heard here.
“We have some information, most of it is public. It clearly looks like a deranged individual. He had his hair painted red, he said he was ‘The Joker,’ obviously the ‘enemy’ of Batman,” Kelly said.
Some have pointed out that in the 2008 Batman movie, “The Dark Knight,” The Joker’s hair was actually green not red.
Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates would not confirm the information about suspected gunman James Holmes, but confirmed he had spoken to Kelly. The two used to work together in New York.
CBS New York reports that witnesses said Holmes was dressed as a SWAT team member with a bulletproof vest when he burst through an emergency exit of the theater, dropped two canisters of unknown gas and opened fire. The mass shooting has left 12 people dead and roughly 51 wounded.
Holmes was eventually arrested in the parking lot of the movie theater and did not resist police. He reportedly told police he had explosives in his home.
FBI and Aurora police confirmed that Holmes’ apartment is “booby trapped” with canisters of fluid and wire triggers that they think could take “hours” or “days” to sort through, the Denver Post reports.
TMZ speculates that Holmes may have been trying to reenact a scene from “The Dark Knight” which features a scene where The Joker, played by the late Heath Ledger, wears a red wig before he demolishes a hospital with explosives. This can not be independently verified but the scene can be seen here:
Check back for updates — we will add video of Kelly’s comments as soon as it becomes available.
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TONY BOLOGNA
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 10:59pmThis “STORY” is incredibly poor ‘journalism’!!
The headline could have just as easily mentioned anyone instead of the NYC police commish. for example, insert: Glen Beck, or Obama, or Mahatma Ghandi or Rush, or well you get the freakin point!!
This “story” is nowhere else except for the blaze. Did the Blaze scoop the rest of the media? Or did the Blaze just create their own news for their own agenda??? BOING BOING!! THE BLAZE CREATED NEWS FOR ITS OWN AGENDA. THIS MY FRIENDS IS NOT JOURNALISM IT IS CALLED PROPAGANDA AND BSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBS
Report Post »thebronze
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 4:33amWhy did Ray Kelly even say anything about this? As far as I know, this happened in Aurora COLORADO, so why is the Chief of the NYPD holding a presser?
Ray Kelly should STFU and mind his own business. This has NOTHING to do with NY.
Report Post »Lee_in_PA
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 1:56pmThirteen minutes of his 15 left?
Report Post »ddg7
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 9:18pmAnother worm in the ‘Big Apple’!
Report Post »Hearmenow2
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 7:46pmThe legislators will cry for gun control When in fact the government is the biggest shipper of guns in the world from eric holder shipping illegal guns to mexico and our government shipping guns around the world. Not to mention the mind numbing evil movies Hollywood spits out on a regular basis. Its no different than pornography it is addictive. Thats why companies pay so much money for advertisments. Because it influences people. Just like movies . Legislate the crap that comes out of Hollywood.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 8:37pmAgree with everything you said. They can give guns to Mex. Cartel and that’s fine, but when they start wanting our guns, that another story. This was a tragic thing at the theater, but I seriously believe the caliber of outrageous, violent movies are a problem too.
Many die from one thing or another. Killed by cars, gang thugs, and they use all kinds of weapons. Guns are not the cause of that many deaths in America, but here are details of 98,000 deaths attributed to another cause:
“The Institute of Medicine’s (IOM) seminal study of preventable medical errors estimated as many as 98,000 people die every year at a cost of $29 billion.1 If the Centers for Disease Control were to include preventable medical errors as a category, these conclusions would make it the sixth leading cause of death in America.”
Report Post »Personally, I’m more afraid of being killed by a medical error than I am from someone with a gun. It’s only been a few years ago that the average was 90,000 each year
who died due to medical errors, wrong medication, Dr. error, etc.
This should be considered when talk begins again to outlaw guns………………….and the old saying, “that’s when only outlaws will have guns” and we’ll have no defense.
fastfacts
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:48pmDid you see, this guy told the police that his apartment was booby trapped for laughs. He told them that and then clammed up. The guy is a psychopath and the police has to work with that. They are struggling to get into that apartment without setting of the alleged explosives.
Here is the coverage of them trying to get into the apartment: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2012/july/polce_attempt_colorado.html
Report Post »HURRICANEPAUL
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:23pmThis NUT who shot these people was CLEARLY INFLUENCED by Hollywood.
He thought he was the Joker.
He tod the police “I’m the Joker”.
He didn’t say “I’m Rush Limbaugh”.
If anyone, or any GROUP, is to blame…the blame should fall on Hollywood and the THOUSANDS of violent movies they have made.
Notice how, when these people recant their stories, they always say “I thought it was a movie”?
They never say “I thought I was listening to Rush Limbaugh”.
Report Post »Atrum Angelis
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:34pmHollywood isn’t the only one making violent stories. There are books, comics, video games and if you go back far enough, myths and legends. However, they don’t make people violent. Think about how many millions participate in those mediums today and DON’T go out on a killing rampage. Millions. The stories don’t make someone violent, there “crazy” makes them so.
“Some people just want to watch the world burn.”
Report Post »Restored One
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:45pmAs for the rush to blame Rush Limbaugh this morning: This guy had this in the works long before Rush made his comments earlier this week. I hope the blame game will be focused on where it should be focused once the facts come out.
Report Post »mtnvortex
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 7:18pmSo you think violent movies are to blame? And you consider yourself a conservative?
Tipper Gore would like a word with you.
I’ll be over here in “Personal Responsibility’s” corner.
…Oh, forget it. I‘m sure you just didn’t think this one through. Be careful with your liberties.
Report Post »Just sayin’…
woodyee
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:48pmSo he stated a fact – big deal!
Does stating a fact make it a fallacy, even if it can be proven in court?
If that is so, there are one or more lawyers in need of a cat-o-nine-tails lashing…
Where’s his MUG-SHOT?!?!?
Report Post »Lee_in_PA
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 7:20amChief of Police, at the early press conference I saw, said they would not be releasing the mug shot. In retrospect, what the NY Chief said about the red hair, I suspect the shooter was made up like the Joker. The last thing needed is to have mug shot of the shooter looking like The Joker released. I believe that would have put an end to any plea of insanity, because that is the way it looks like it will go. The shooter is sane enough to have planned this, and that shows pemeditation for me.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:33pmThe theatre was another ‘happy’, ‘safe’, “gun-free” zone. If at least one or two patrons were armed, the crazy gun man might have been stopped. You have a right to defend yourself, and if a private establishment disarms you, they have a responsibility to keep you safe, or protect you from harm, e.g., guards, security measures, etc. Self defense is a natural and private right. Justice Alito stated in Heller, “citizens must be permitted ‘to use [handguns] for the core lawful purpose of self-defense.’”
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:22pmmy friends all tease me for going to the movies armed. infact I go everywhere armed. God help everyone involved including the shooter’s family. this is awful we were going to go today to see this movie. with all the calls for gun control on this I would like to mention, if only someone was alert and armed this amount of devastation could have been drastically reduced. bullet proof vests are not sufficient against proper ammo and there is always the ability to hit weak areas think of the song head shoulders knees and toes. Prayers for all, and I mean no insult to all there, just saying folks arm yourself, learn your weapon and stay alert. It isn’t fail safe but its a lot better than the alternative
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:41pmI was thinking the same thing. Once my state Maryland goes “Shall Issue”, I’m staying armed at all times for the purpose of self defense. When in private establishments, I will not disarm myself, unless the owner, or his representative, personally tells me to leave. If a public place or business is a gun-free zone, and provides no adequate security, I will take my money elsewhere.
Report Post »4xeverything
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:43pmWe are armed in our home and I am going to get my CCL in the next few months. We have to keep everything under careful lock and key in our home though because our children are very young still. My 90 year old grandmother lives alone on her farm though and she keeps at least one (if not more in some cases) loaded weapon every room of the house and in her car. I love it! She even has the largest double barrel shotgun I’ve ever seen leaning casually in the corner of the kitchen, right behind the “tater” box. :0)
Report Post »Blazebanned
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:17pmSomething “just aint right” here,too many questions about this nut job, and the fact the the msm jumped on it so fast accusing Rush, the Tea Party etc. of this.My guess is, he was either paid to or brainwashed into doing this,by the left.Get that some serious thought, and you might see where im coming from, especially since that asshat is linked to occupy……..
Report Post »Either way,the msm will be silent about it in a day or so……
mercenary4freedom
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:47pmMy 1st thoUght as well BLAZEBANNED….something not right with the timing of this
Report Post »Matt
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:50pmIf he was paid there would have been clear evidence linking him to the tea party. They would have made sure of that. Frames dont happen with gaping holes.
No, ABC jumped so fast to accuse the Tea Party because of Trayvon. They saw that in that situation, even though there was absolutely no evidence towards the issue being race related, they managed to make it LOOK like there was.
ABC probably figured that the new standard, especially with the election looming and everyone pulling out all the cheap shots to try to take down Romney, was that everything would always be blamed on Obamas opponents. They wanted the exclusive, first break on it, and they figured that no one else was going to bother with EVIDENCE that he was a tea partier, because no one ever bothered with EVIDENCE in the Trayvon/Zimmerman situation. So they decided to jump the gun and release that he was an alleged “tea partier” before anyone else could.
Report Post »cmonnow
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:59pmsure – the left high commission paid for this….
and yeah, the timing is so fishy… opening night of a major movie..
give. me. a. break.
Report Post »nowhereman
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:58pmBatman arch-villain wannabe. A Batman devotee that went over the edge. His plan was “Diabolical”. The police should be cautious.
Report Post »mercenary4freedom
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:24pmThe Hollyweirdos make a violent movie, some nutcase acts out his fantasies about being a villain and killing innocent people and the anti gun establishment wants to blame the gun?
Balme obama’s buddies in Hollywood for putting this stuff in persons heads.
Report Post »cmonnow
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:01pmcmon dude.. Reagan was as Hollywood as they come. get off it.
Report Post »nowhereman
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 2:32pmFor petes sake, you can’t blame Obama for everything! Batman has been around since 1939. Hollywood or Obama has nothing to do with it!
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:51pm“Did NYC Police Commish Accidentally Reveal Fact in Colo. Shooting? Tells Media Shooter Painted Hair Red and Said He Was ‘The Joker’”
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It’s on the internet. A link was posted in one of these stories by someone. That’s where I read about his hair being dyed and him saying he was the Joker, an enemy of Batman.
Something is fishy, though. How did he get in an emergency exit door without walking through the theater first? Those doors have an alarm on them, don’t they? Where did he get all the SWAT team equipment and explosives, not to mention the guns without triggering a red flag?
RaydocX
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:09pmanother story claims he bought a ticket, then wedged the door open, i assume to go get his gear. sad, horrible occurrence, and the vultures are already feeding on it.
should have ended coverage after mourning the losses and have refocused on other news, like the 1-2% drop in the markets, today.
be safe, all
Report Post »Chrono_Sleuth
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:23pmIt doesn’t work that way. When you prop those doors open they trigger an automatic alarm that sounds both within the building (somewhere, or all over…depends on how it’s wired, but either the staff or everyone knows). That alarm goes directly to the police who were somehow not notified until the violence unfolded. Unless something horrible happened like the wire was bad or the door alarm wasn’t on(never tested, wore out, was fried by a surge, was never a complete wire…whatever…but they’re required to test after install), the police knew the moment that door was opened; even just to prop it open.
The other question remains. His gear was NOT typical of surplus stores. He had swat equipment, where did he get ahold of that?
I hope he does fry, but I would love to know what the story is behind this. Where his motivations came from, who supplied him, how it was possible for him to break in and why they police weren‘t notified if that’s how he actually broke in.
Something doesn’t feel right with this.
Report Post »9111315
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:45pmWow CHRONO_SLEUTH!
You know way tooooo much about this. Do you think George Bush cut the wires to the Police Station?
I bet the guys from Mission Impossible were in some telco building crossing the wires while suspended upside down over an alligator pit.
. . . or maybe, nobody cares to count how many teenagers regularly sneak into movie theaters this same way. One buys the ticket, then lets a few friends in from the exit.
Maybe it is just Co.
Report Post »republitarian
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:53pmI’m waiting for more details too.
Report Post »SWAT gear is available online. Check out LA Police Gear (dot.com)
Chrono_Sleuth
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:56pmLook at the obnxious ass try to make a point without being adult about it.
Congrats, you win the “I grew up in the 1970′s and forgot times change” award. Nice job dumbass.
Those old theaters you used to sneak in? Where no alarm went off, and no police showed up when you propped open the door for your cheap friends? Ya, they either never rigged the wires to the circuitry to trip when it was opened, or the manager turned it off because of the constant hassle of dealing with teens. Not so much anymore. I have yet to see a teen sneak in through the fire exit, and knowing several theater managers and people who work at multiple new theaters…it’s rather uncommon, particularly when most are hurting for ticket sales.
The helicopter view makes it pretty clear the theater is relatively new, at least in the past 20 years.
Oh, and codes change too, as well as inspection requirements for police departments. Still, you make a valid point, just next time, try to make it without sounding like your balls are in a vice.
Report Post »Chrono_Sleuth
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:59pmRepublitarian:
Thanks, but that still leaves the question open about weaponry. I‘m not seeing AR’s being offered on that site, unless I’m missing something.
Report Post »republitarian
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:59pmChrono_ Sleuth, ARs are available at your local gun store just like any other rifle.
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:45pm…
Report Post »Colorado has the death penalty, but they’ve not executed anyone on death row since the mid nineteen seventies.
LeadNotFollow
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:41pm…
Report Post »He’s just trying to play the crazy card, to get a lighter sentence.
AlcoholicMB
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:39pmHow do you “kick in” an emergency exit door that only opens outward?
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:46pmGood question – and I’m sure that the door was metal as well – so, what really happened?
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:57pm@AlcoholicMB
Report Post »I heard on radio that he went into the movie as a customer and propped the door open while he was inside. Then, he went out and came in that way.
Bluebonnet
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:16pmHe must have paid admission, went through the exit door, taped the latch so he could come back in. Put on his gear, got his guns and came back through the door.
Personally, I think people get these ideas from the freakin movies that are out there.
Responsible people who take classes to handle guns are the ones we wished had been in that theater last night. If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns and we’ll be totally defenseless.
How can an honest person defend themselves if there are no guns to retaliate the thugs who carry guns for crimes? They’re trying to take guns away from honest people every time something like this happens. Then we can’t defend ourselves from the criminals. How fair is this? We should always have a fighting chance.
Guns in the wrong hands is scary, like the Fast & Furious thingie, and our government
Report Post »approved of this debacle. They arm criminals and try to stop the honest person from having any defense at all.
If you read the paper, cars kill all the time, knives kill, baseball bats kill, geeze you fools it’s not the weapon that kills, it’s the crime ridden thugs that kill. At least
let honest people have a chance to defend ourselves from the criminals.
guz75
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:39pm@bluebonnet
Report Post »I‘m not sure in this situation I’d be so keen on other people with guns getting involved. I don’t think the training responsible gun owners have, covers dark smoke-filled rooms with 100+ people running around. I can see the advantage in a situation in broad daylight, but I could imagine it making things worse in this case.
suz
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:38pmi heard this story as it broke in the early morning. the coverage was endless. i thought to myself, not only will the left use this and it will go on for weeks, but this might have been an intentional distraction/tool. after all, we’re not talking AT ALL about the “you didn’t build that” bho comment.
i do not apologize for thinking this way.
this is a very bad thing when innocent die
BUT
apparently the content in this film is anti-occupy.
paris has closed down the screening of this film. soon that will happen here.
we have to get back to romney slamming bho in the right places. this would not be politics — it’s the only lifeline to getting this corrupt president out.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:14pmIt‘s too bad someone you loved wasn’t killed their. Maybe then you‘d see some things aren’t political and evil is just evil. And I don’t apologize for saying that.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:36pmDoes Colorado have the death penalty? The coward gave up when confronted by armed police and it‘s too bad he didn’t engage,since he’s a coward his surrender was expected. Hopefully he‘ll be taken out in the pen so we won’t have to spend too much supporting the nut job.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:43pmLet him have his day in court; and let the justice be true and swift and decisive in its outcome.
Report Post »Danang1972
Posted on July 21, 2012 at 7:25amSnowleopard {gallery of cat folks}- They need to give him the “Gary Gilmore” execution – shoot low and work their way up – maybe one volley every ten minutes or so.
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 4:34pm“Some have pointed out that in the 2008 Batman movie, “The Dark Knight,” The Joker’s hair was actually green not red.”
Okay – well, in the 60′s TV series, Cesar Romero’s Joker alternated between RED and GREEN hair – So, maybe this guy was a fan of the old TV series? BUT, does it really matter what color his hair was “painted”?
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on July 20, 2012 at 5:05pmNope.
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