Did Romney Really Compare His Record at Bain Capital to President Obama’s Takeover of GM?
- Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:23pm by
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Perhaps in an effort to downplay recent attacks by his GOP opponents, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney said today on CBS that the layoffs and restructuring that occurred during his time at Bain Capital were similar to actions taken by President Barack Obama during the federal takeover of General Motors and Chrysler.
Did he really make that comparison?
See for yourself via FOX Nation:
“In the general election I’ll be pointing out that the president took the reins at General Motors and Chrysler — closed factories, closed dealerships laid off thousands and thousands of workers — he did it to try to save the business,” Romney said Wednesday on CBS. “We also had the occasion to do things that are tough to try and save a business.”
After The Hill’s Jonathan Easley reported the former governor’s remarks, some conservative analysts were shocked. Most notably, radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh.
“You don’t give tacit approval to the government takeover of GM and Chrysler and then compound that by saying, ‘Hey! What I did is no different,’” Limbaugh said.
Hear Limbaugh examine Romney’s comments via Daily Rushbo:
“I know what the thinking is,” Limbaugh said. “The thinking is, ‘Hey, look at me! I’m no different than what Obama did, and you love Obama. You don’t criticize Obama for doing this, so you can’t criticize me for doing it. We did the same thing.’”
Limbaugh continued his criticism:
I don’t know how you say this. You’ve just accepted the premise of the Newt and Perry criticism! You just accepted the premise with this comment to CBS today, and you’re trying to blunt the criticism and saying, “Well, I’m no different than Obama.”
Mitt, would you take over General Motors and Chrysler if you’re president, is that what you’re saying? And, by the way, who the hell says that Obama’s trying to save the companies? Who the hell says that Obama cares about profitability? That’s not why Obama took over those companies! If anybody remembers, it was the Romneys that owned those companies that got the shaft: The bondholders.
The bondholders — who had the first dibs on any bankruptcy or payoff or payback, anything that was made whole to General Motors — who have more say so than stocking were told by Obama (summarized): “Get the hell outta here! You’re greedy! …I’m giving this company to the unions, and the reason that I’m saving this company is to save pensions and health care benefits — and so I can market a stupid-ass car that nobody wants. I don’t care about profit!”
“Folks,” Limbaugh said after a brief pause, “I do not understand what is so hard to understand about this. Why in the world would anybody seeking the Republican presidential nomination try to shield themselves from criticism by hiding behind Obama?”
Is Limbaugh reading too much into the former governor’s remarks, or is Romney actually trying to defend his record by “hiding behind Obama”? Furthermore, does anyone really believe that the Obama administration had the best interests of General Motors in mind when they decided to bailout the auto manufacturer?
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Comments (278)
cloudsofwar
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:23pmi don’t know why any republican would want to compare himself in any way to BO. not too smart Romney. now Romney you have to clean this up. you have to draw a CLEAR difference between YOU and BO for the voting public.
Report Post »Romney-Rubio 2012
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:34pmIts called a pre-emptive strike. He had to do this strike because of the idiots Gingrich and Perry. Even Ron Paul agrees with Romney on this point. Those two were fighting on the side of the left. Their attacks were compared to Ted Kennedy, Michael Moore, and today… from Rush… Fidel Castro.
That is why Romney had to make a pre-emptive strike on Obama’s failures.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:53pmGo Get Him Rick Perry and Newt!!!
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:54pmHe isn’t comparing himself to Barack Obama. He is comparing what Bain did to what the government did, very specifically, the act of taking over a company and restructuring it with the intent to help that company in the long run.
Suggesting that he is comparing himself to Barack Obama or that he is somehow condoning the auto bailouts is ridiculous on its face. But, I guess when you have a juggernaut like Romney, who simply has no ammo for attacks in his past, you gotta make something up to try to make him look bad.
Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:25pmHow many “sames” is it going to take to get people to open their eyes??
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:30pmRon Paul may have had nothing against the action Baine…..But Romney himself justifies it, NOT by standing up for capitalism…..but saying “Obama did it”…. we have one of these in office already….wow so alike the two are….
Will he justify unconstitutional acts while he is in office by saying “Well Obama did it too!”
READRIGHTHERE
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:45pmYou are not getting Romney’s point. He was asked how he would defend himself from the inevitable attacks in the same vein coming from Obama’s camp. He was stating that he would simply point out that Obama is responsible for eliminating jobs, closing factories, etc. in an effort to save GM. In other words. Obama is rendered unable to even mention Romney’s efforts at Bain Capital.
And while the conversation is centered on Obama being the tea pot, Romney will be able to point out the difference between the two seemingly similar tactics. Romney risked his company’s money and their investors from the private business world while restructuring companies and taking on risks. It was their money at risk and their right to risk it. Obama took his money from the US taxpayer to risk it on saving Government Motors. Not his money and not his right. Two horribly different scenarios. One that deserves and will get support from the conservative base and one that paints Obama as the Liberal charlatan and thief that he is.
If Obama’s camp is stupid enough to take this bait they will be reeled in and flopping on the deck for all the country to see. Score Romney.
Now Rush, I am worried again. His trigger finger for attacking Romney is way to sensitive. Notice Romney didn’t even say capitalism (A Marxist term for demonizing power and greed happy usurpers of common man labor) in his NH victory speech. He used Economic Freedom. The right terminology, by the righ guy, at the right ti
Report Post »READRIGHTHERE
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:46pmme. The character counter on this web site is like Obama. It lies.
Report Post »crazedbanshee
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:54pm@freedompurveyor – You need to start paying more attention to what Mitt says. He in fact did compare himself to Obama.
“In the general election I’ll be pointing out that the PRESIDENT took the reins at General Motors and Chrysler” (emphasis added)
He didn’t say the Govt took over. In his statement he is comparing the two people who had the authority to make the changes and the reason for making changes. Himself and the President and trying to save a business. I have no problems with him restructuring a business. I would have written off his attackers. The way he phrased this makes it sounds like he backs up what BO did and now I am even more hopeful he doesn’t make it.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:59pmO Romney, Romney, I have started to accept idea of you as president with Paul as VP and you shot your self in the foot and knee. It is huge difference between private capital investing in or restructuring private companies and government doing the same.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 7:20pmRomney was opposed to the Auto bailouts when they occurred and he clearly stated this at the time in an OP-Ed in the Wallstreet journal. All he needed to say or add to his comment today, was that Obama has been using taxpayer money for his risky investments and bailouts and Romney was using private equity and he should have restated his positions on his opposition to government bailouts. In Vegas this year he opposed mortgage bailouts,he opposed the auto bailouts,he opposed Obama’s stimulus but he did support Tarp like all of the other candidates with the exception of Paul.
Report Post »TexBork
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 7:28pmcloudsofwar, Yeah, I agree. I understand in a way what Romney was kind of saying, I just think that if he really was trying to make the comparison better he would have made it clear that the idea of bailing out a company isn’t a bad idea, but that it’s precisely the burden of business to attempt to perform these kinds of initiatives and not the government doing it with taxes confiscated from the people. The government shouldn‘t be picking winners and losers and Romney in this instance could have made his point about that and didn’t. He drew the parallel, but unless I am missing something he didn’t make a distinction, which should have been illustrated and not left to open ended inference.
Report Post »ROMNEY2012
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 7:56pmIf you have actually LISTENED to what Romney has been saying for months, he was TOTALLY OPPOSED to the Govt. bailout of GM.
He is using this narrative to castrate Obama’s anti-capitalist argument by saying “Obama did the same thing”
However he also says repeatedly:
THIS IS NOT WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO DO!.
This is a fantastic way to refute Obama’s anti free-market message while simultaneously pointing out that the Govt. HAS NO BUSINESS BEING IN BUSINESS.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 8:29pmWhy are you refusing to show your tax return records to America Mitt?? Got something to hide?? No more Obamas hiding records
Report Post »Atomic
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 8:32pmSimilarities on many issues. Long lost brothers, maybe??? Oh man, where‘s Romney’s birth certificate…
Here’s a breakdown of the judges Romney picked while governor of Massachusetts.
Report Post »http://www.rightspeak.net/2011/03/romneys-spotty-record-on-judicial.html
West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 8:44pmAll you Romneyites, clean this one up: http://www.webcasts.com/kingofbain/ Have fun. His supporters: Who funds him? 10 percent from small individual contributions, the rest from Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse Group, Morgan Stanley, HIG Capital, Barclays, Kirkland & Ellis, Bank of America, PriceWaterhouseCoopers, EMC Corp, JPMorgan Chase. You guys know what these companies are, right? Let’s look at Credit Suiise Group. “In 2009, Credit Suisse settled on charges that it violated sanctions regulating financial transactions with IRAN!! The charges included “stripping”, the practice of removing the identity and origin of funds used in transactions. Credit Suisse employees stripped the identities of Iranian banks enabling funds to be transferred to the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran and the Aerospace Industries Organization, entities respectively involved in the production of nuclear weapons and long range missiles!!” Wow, I would love to have them filling my pockets, wouldn’t you? PricewaterhouseCoopers is a global professional services firm headquartered in London, United Kingdom. Love those Brits, I want to be a puppet of those guys. Don’t you see the picture here? Who are you really supporting?
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 8:46pmRomney is owned by the bailed out bankers..it’s just business as usual..the rest are sell outs too. look at New http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2818630/posts
Report Post »Here’s Rick..http://www.nolanchart.com/article9242-the-real-dirt-on-slick-rick-santorum.html
These guys are all just alike..there for the power..
jhaydeng
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 9:06pmI think it was a smart move because it makes him appeal to Obama Independents. Smart strategic statement that was very calculated!
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 9:08pm@WEST COAST..Wow..what an eye opener..Thanks for the video.!!
Report Post »Luke611
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 9:31pmClara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 8:29pm
“…Why are you refusing to show your tax return records to America Mitt?? Got something to hide?? No more Obamas hiding records….:
Would you please post your income and tax records here on the BLAZE. And your Jr high and high school transcripts as well.
Showing your income/tax records is not required of a candidate. However it is generally understood that he made more in residual income last year than you will earn lifetime. ao why would that be necessary for your interest? What would it prove? What more proof do you need that he is highly intelligent when it comes to financial matters?
There is one thing more that you should recognize. He has given over 100 million of his personable wealth to charitable causes. John Huntsman’s father estimate of 900 mill to 1.4 bill. Can you imagine those numbers?
He is not interest in throwing his pearls amongst the swine…
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 9:48pmRomney is the one who made a big deal of his tax returns in the press…. and he was VERY defensive about it….
Report Post »NOTvotingforRomney
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 10:09pmRomneyCare vs ObamaCare
Romney approved TARP bail outs of private banks vs Obama bail outs of private auto companies, etc.
Romney is against the 2nd amendment and so is Obama.
Obama NEVER served in the military but hid out in France and neither did Romney OR Romney’s 5 sons. Romney said his 5 sons are serving their country by getting him elected.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/08/politics/main3147321.shtml
Obama acts like a dictator and his followers think he is a messiah. Romney as a mormon believes when he dies he will become a GOD and his followers thinks he is a messiah.
Romney is an arragant ego maniac narcissist who will say and do anything to get elected vs Obama who is the same way.
Romney SAYS he against illegal aliens when he isn’t for ir and his RomneyCare – JUST LIKE ObamaCare does treat illegals.
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/24/romneycare-subsidized-care-for-illegal-immigrants/
Romney LOL job record vs Obama’s are the SAME
Report Post »Poor job creation as Governor
Http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/06/about-that-romney-job-creation-record/
marion
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:33amI agree. He is admitting the thinking of the President and Bain, which he was an owner, CEO, whatever, but a leader of its actions, used the same tactic. BHO did it to feed his union buddies and give the existing companies to non-owners to pay them, Bain to make money, even if it meant a loss of a company by its going bankrupt after they stripped it and sold it, moving jobs overseas. Any good business that does this first off isn’t gong to buy a company with the intent of it losing, that’s part of making the point that the business is a good investment, so a thirty percent loss/bankruptcy rate is not a good ratio of survival or strip-for-profit ratio.
At least every time Herman Cain became a CEO to a company it became profitable and is still in business. I know for a fact Mitt can’t say that. Watch the movie OPM, with Danny DaVito and Gregory Peck. That’s what Bain was all about. Not exactly what I want in a moderate presidential candidate. Country can’t afford him.
Report Post »QuIzAcK
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:44amMITT ROMNEY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_6BCXIsgLE
Wake up sheep!
Report Post »rwhopt
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 1:51amI am not a Mitt fan but let’s face it. When Mitt takes over a company he puts his own money on the line. When BO takes over a company, he put our money on the line. GM got the same type of closings and layoffs but we had to pay for it. Hello?
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:18amRWHOPT, What does your statement have to do witrh anything?? Man I have met some winners on here, but you, man I cannot even think of the words to say.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:33amI have been noticing for quite some time that when I post on here, the progressives are afraid to respond to me. I am taking that in stride. I am telling the truth, and progressives are afraid to challenge me, as I win everytime. Why is that, you might ask, because I have the truth on my side and they cannot get over on me. They just bash Ron Paul, as it is all they know what to do. They know no different, as they are either paid to do this, or they have tunnel vision toward the TV because they were brought up that way, with parents who used the TV as a babysitter. I do feel pity for them, as they are lost sheep that know not what to do, unless Fox News with Sean or Bill, tell them what to do. I will continue to pray for all of you. You know who you are. I do not expect an answer, as you guys are afraid to answer me already.
Report Post »MR_ANDERSON
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:14amHe can use this in a run against Obama. All he has to say is:
What I did is defined as Capitalism.
What Obama did is defined as Socialism.
I stand up for what founded this country.
Report Post »I praise what the free-market is and look to restore it.
…and…
I DENOUNCE SOCIALISTIC THINKING AND PROMISE TO STAND AGAINST THIS ANTI-AMERICAN IDEA FOR AS LONG AS I LIVE!!!
FreedomPurveyor
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 11:09amWEST COAST PATRIOT
No offense, but there are two reasons people don’t respond. The first problem is long, unformatted posts that people are unlikely to read. The second is complex, conspiratorial links that are hard to follow or understand, followed by accusations of being a puppet, a sheep, a progressive, or a blind follower of Fox News. It isn’t that people are afraid to answer because “you win every time,” they just don’t want to get into that.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 2:09pmFreedom, I would just call that being lazy. Conspiritorial? Not sure what you mean by that. I call things how I see them.
Report Post »GodWillPrevail
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 7:14pmDon’t see much difference myself both have strong Pro Choice records, both have strong gun control records yet claim to support the second amendment. Both have very strong Gay Rights records Mitt even got Gay Marriage as Gov after running on Gay Rights. Only real difference is in 2005 Mitt decided to start running for President as a Republican and all of a sudden changed most of these positions at least his words changed his actions did not really change as Governor. Prior to 2005 he ran as a Republican but was proud he was Independent to the left of Teddy Kennedy then the Democrat running against him for Governor.
Looks to me that Romney was part Vulture Capitalist and part Venture Capitalist. Now the Vulture part is biting him big time. He can not really defend what he did so he says Obama did it too like the typical Liberal he is. He then lies and says Gingrich is against his Venture Capitalism when all Gingrich was talking about was his Vulture Capitalism. Using the Saul Alinsky tactic of attacking with lies when the truth is not on your side. In this case he lies and says Gingrich is using “the language of the left”. Knowing full well his Vulture Capitalism looks very very bad to 90% of Americans.
Report Post »Libertarian B 4 Libertarians Were Cool
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:34pmRomney is a BO clone:
He has stated that the theory of anthropogenic global warming is real. In 2005, as governor of Massachusetts, Romney imposed strict state limitations on carbon dioxide emissions from power plants. In a memo issued by Massachusetts Lieutenant Governor Kerry Hale, the Romney administration bragged that it was “the first and only state to set CO 2 emissions limits on power plants.”
In short, Romney did what Obama’s EPA wants to do now. It is revealing that Romney was advised on this drastic step by none other than Obama’s chief science adviser, John Holdren.
In his book, No Apology, Romney advocates carbon taxes through a “tax-swap plan” and declares that resultant “higher energy prices would encourage energy efficiency.” The plan is favored by economist and Romney adviser Greg Mankiw and many other “Republican-leaning economists.” In 2007, Mankiw wrote an op-ed for the New York Times entitled “One Answer to Global Warming: A New Tax.” He wrote that “if we want to reduce global emissions of carbon, we need a global carbon tax.”
RON PAUL 2012, or get just another RINO w/ Romney!
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:22pmromney is unelectable…Who wantsca cult member with antichrist teachings in the WH just because the establishment is trying to force him on us?
Report Post »one.dakine.howlie
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:48pmYou don‘t know what you’re talking about. Take some initiative to educate yourself with actual facts instead of the B.S your ignorant church is teaching you.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:57pmIronic that someone who makes a habit of spreading hateful anti-Mormon rhetoric, and suggesting that someone with differing religious beliefs is unqualified to be president, has a picture of Martin Luther King Jr. for his avatar.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:28pmWe have a cult member now, what the heck are YOU talking about?
Report Post »David USA
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:50pmYou are still a idiot!
T.T.W.S.U.F what a joke you are.
Report Post »csims
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:53pm@ the truth shall make you free
You have several anti-mormon rhetoric postings throughout this site. It’s rather disgusting and extremely offensive to those of us in the LDS Church. I’m not even going to waste my time. If anyone wants to know about our church they can go the http://www.mormon.org. I don’t know any cults that are as open to discuss what we believe as we are.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 7:32pmFreedompurveyor- I agree…“thetruthshallsetyoufree” probably works for the Obama campaign.
Report Post »idarusskie
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 9:18pmI do.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 4:49amGuys, I want to tell you that I was baptised into the LDS Church in 1995. Wow, I bet you did not guess that, did you progressives? Mitt Romney is for himself. If you guy’s would take the initiative to research, the right way, you would learn what he is all about. You guys are pathetic. You come on here and repeat what the media says and act like you found these lies out yourself. Losers. If you do not want to be a loser, then stop being lazy, and research everything. The media lies!!!! They are not telling you the truth. Glenn says, “Do not take anyones word for it, do your own research, question with boldness. Do your own homework. Do not take my words as truth. Find your own truth.” Have all of you, and even Glenn, forgot what was being taught? I feel that Glenn has been taken over by an alien being. ??? He is completely different than when I started trusting him. I cancelled my subscription to GBTV, and I do not regret it one bit. If Glenn comes back to earth and starts believing in the Constitution again, I will gladly look at becoming a member again, but only if we can get the old Glenn back. We are about to go on a journey, that is filled with fear and regret. It cannot be stopped at this point, but if you prepare, you may survive.
Report Post »AnAppealToGod
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:17pmhttp://stopromneyspiousbaloney.com/
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:31pmthanks for the link :)
Report Post »brdatwork2
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:51pmANAPPEALTOGOD “Paid for by Newt 2012 ”
Report Post »constantreverie
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 7:59pmonce again, another attack that is only effective on those who have no grasp on the english language, nor grammar.
Mitt Romney stated he had not seen them, the comercials. This is plural.
He then said that the one he had seen contained various content.
These statements can still be true, as if you have seen a single comercial, that does not imply that you have seen all of the (multiple) comercials.
But of course, people will still be twisting words to support their own agenda.
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:14pmWAIT! I thought that the Blaze/Glenn were only out to get Ron Paul, that’s what Paul supporters have been saying. How can they post a story that shows someone else in a negative light? Could it be that the Paul folks are full of it?
Report Post »Romney-Rubio 2012
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:17pmRomney is smart to set up a pre-emptive strike on Obama. 73 businesses Romney worked on turned around and flourished. Every business under Obama has failed and gone through bankruptcy.
Romney is right to kill this argument right away.
Report Post »Romney-Rubio 2012
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:19pmNow Romney needs to continue on that mark and make the argument of private sector solutions over government takeover.
Report Post »LibertarianRight
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:23pmNo one thought that. Glenn is primarily working to get his chosen candidate -Santorum and his “compassionate conservatism” Big Government policies – into office, if he can, and protect our Wilsonian foreign policy “making the world safe for democracy”. Romney is just as big a threat to Santorum winning as Paul is. (Of course, in the end, it will be Paul vs. Romney, with others like Gingrich struggling along for no reason if they even remain in the race.)
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:26pmRomney-Rubio 2012
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:17pm
Romney is smart to set up a pre-emptive strike on Obama. 73 businesses Romney worked on turned around and flourished. Every business under Obama has failed and gone through bankruptcy.
Romney is right to kill this argument right away.
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That’s not the whole story though:
“When Mitt Romney Came To Town”
Report Post »http://www.webcasts.com/kingofbain/
c0mm0nsense
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:33pmtherealconservative
You thought wrong!
recoveringneocon
Report Post »Posted on January 11, 2012 at 11:22am
“The ezalB” “nnelG” and the other 2 stooges are bashing every Candidate other then ricky santorum, turning us on each other. Its divide and Conquer “nnelG” is like a mini Soros with his new “Propaganda Machine” Play with us like its some kind of game.
therealconservative
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:34pm@LIB Read the other stories here about Paul, all the supporters are bashing The Blaze/Glenn. Also, I guess you don’t listen to Glenn much. What Wilsonian foreign policy does Glenn support? Answer NONE.
Report Post »Romney-Rubio 2012
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:37pmKIDCHARLEMAGNE,
That’s right Gingrich is a hypocrite. He said that he would stop the attacks on Bain Capital and then hours later released this video. If you say he had no control. Why not use his argument and say he could have made a statement that the SuperPAC should stop it, isn’t that what he told Romney.
Gingrich and Perry are attacking Capitalism, interesting how the pro-Gingrich PAC took Bain money and will not return it.
THE FILM LIKE ALL OF GINGRICH’S ADS ARE FULL OF FALSEHOODS AND NEGATIVE… Gingrich is a hypocrite.
Report Post »brdatwork2
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:53pmKidCharlemagne “Paid for by Newt 2012 ”
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:54pm@COMMON That’s all you got, reposting someone else’s post.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:14pmtherealconservative
Report Post »Recoveringneocon surely is a Paulist and he surely shot holes in your post, so yep thats all I got and all I need. Sorry
Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:39pmThe Blaze has posted the bad things about every candidate that comes up……
That being said its the articles that go with these events that upset Paul supporters….These stories about other candidates are normally written in a neutral tone…which is good by the way when you are trying to be the no agenda news source…..But when there are stories about Paul the articles are written in a “look at this crazy loon” kind of tone….
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:42pmBallot_Box_Revolution
Report Post »Not ricky santorum
c0mm0nsense
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:44pmRick Santorum on small government
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gwwmm-cQxU
This one is for you nnelG
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 9:18pm@ REALCONSERVATIVE….Beck was in the tank for Bachman and Santorumm..I think that he was pretty upfront about that..he had one really lucid moment in it all..then he lost it again.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx1kH39IOLs
Hawkwing
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:12pmI don’t see this as Romney supporting the takeover of GM, it was just a comparison. People in the private sector SHOULD be saving businesses instead of the government.
Report Post »Tower7_TRUTH
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:17pmRomney will get the nomination
While Huntsman, the son of a billionaire, has taken to trying to paint himself as an alternative to the “Establishment’s favorite”, Mitt Romney (Huntsman himself calls Romney that), his history of membership in the CFR makes it easy to understand why the media is propping him up and enthusiastically cooperating with him in shameful attacks against Ron Paul: Huntsman, too, is an Establishment candidate. Given the fact that Huntsman is unelectable, having failed to get on the ballot in three states already, it’s clear that his role is to attempt to tear down the Ron Paul campaign to make way for other Establishment darlings, especially the ruling class’s GOP “heir apparent”, Mitt Romney. http://www.infowars.com/yes-jon-huntsman-was-a-member-of-the-council-on-foreign-relations/
Report Post »brdatwork2
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:55pmTower7_TRUTH dont forget your tin foil hat!!
Report Post »Tower7_TRUTH
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:39pmBRDATWORK wearing Tinfoil must open your mind to truth.
Report Post »Maybe you said that because you are under Mind control ?
Do you live under a Cell Tower ?
Recent Swedish epidemiological studies confirm that, after 2,000 hours of cellular phone exposure, or a latency period of about 10 years, brain cancer risk rises by 240 percent.
http://montalk.net/conspiracy/55
Tower7_TRUTH
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:45pmWe really don’t wear aluminum foil hats, we use Faraday Cages
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garyM
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:12pmNow the dumbo is starting to really show, all you Romney supporters out there better think long and hard before you check his name on the ballot lest you want 4 more years of Obama. A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama!
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 7:37pmHow much does Obama pay you to post comments? Ha Ha Ha.
Report Post »cachapaboy
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 7:55pmSeriously? Haha…. “if Romney‘s the nominee let’s just shoot ourselves in the head!”
What a fool.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:12pm“I am Obama part deux.”
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:03pmI have never liked Mitt Romney and this is the iceing on the cake. I have even heard some people say that they like him because he looks and sounds presidential. Well this does sound like Obama so maybe they are right.
It’s really a shame that he will get the nomination.
Report Post »theaveng
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:09pmIt doesn’t matter.
The meida attack Ron Paul for things he didn’t say (that he wants to disband the Pentagon), but let MKitt Romney slide on things like laying-off people & saying he’s no different from Obama. Why? Because the media hates Paul and loves Romeny (a big government guy)
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Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:13pmYes you are correct they say he “looks” presidential…
Always remember the most dangerous wolves look the most like the sheep.
Report Post »Who was it that said ” Beware of false prophets that come to you in sheep’s clothing, BUT INWARDLY they are ravening wolves”………
Romney-Rubio 2012
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:16pmWow, you guys don’t see this as a pre-emptive strike. He just killed Obama’s argument. Romney had 4 out of 77 businesses fail. Obama had every company fail under him. He destroyed the economy, GM and made them both go through bankruptcy.
Report Post »saranda
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:28pmRomney-Rubio – you could only find 4? WSJ found 17, you might want to look again.
Report Post »cachapaboy
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 7:59pmI‘m pretty sure the ’17′ figure from the WSJ also included several companies that failed AFTER Romney left Bain in…what was it, 99? So why should he be held accountable for those? Either way, 17 out of 77+ ventures? I’d take those odds.
Everyone has an agenda…
Report Post »MacPharlan
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:03pmI don’t think so, he is saying that Obama cannot attack him from this angle, because he tried to do the same thing, but the difference is this:
Obama: GOVERNMENT DOING IT, meddling!
Report Post »Mitt: Private Business Doing it, taking the risk
nummy1
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:12pm@MACPHARLAN
That‘s exactly how I’m reading into it. Good comment
Report Post »antiencenom
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:16pmYou are correct screw the Gobment
Report Post »brdatwork2
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:58pm@MacPharlan
You sir are CORRECT!!
Thank you for being an intelligent, normal person and explaining the concept to the rest of the Ron Paul voters here.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:02pmMore tactics of the left being employed by so-called conservatives.
They are extrapolating his comparison into a false analogy:
“P and Q are similar in respect to properties a, b, and c.
Object P has been observed to have further property x.
Therefore, Q has property x also.”
In this case, Romney is saying that Bain’s acquisition and restructuring of a company is the same thing as the government taking over and restructuring GM. The reason for the comparison is so Obama cannot say, “look, you evil capitalist, you fired people you were supposed to be helping.” Well, Obama, you fired people that you were supposed to be helping. Why? (The answer of course, is the same answer for why Bain had to fire people, nullifying the criticism of Bain)
The false analogy comes when you try to insinuate that Romney is somehow supporting the auto-bailouts, or saying that what Obama did was okay. He said nothing of the nature of the government takeover – the comparison is only to illustrate that even Obama had to fire people in an attempt to help a struggling business.
Report Post »Al J Zira
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:54pmI don’t see this as Mitt misspeaking or making an apples to apples comparison. It’s a 30 second sound bite, that’s all. It’s a little forward of him to say: “when we get to the general election”, as if he’s a shoe-in. There’s still a lot of time between now and then and anything can happen.
Who’s to say if he does make it to the general election he doesn’t make the statement: The difference between Obama and I is what I did was the role of my company, What Obama did is unconstitutional and squandered billions of tax payer’s dollars.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:03pmSo the coporate raider s talking about jobs. The only jobs he created were in China.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 7:30pmEncimon-Wow good talking point you must be on the Obama team.
I am a Romney supporter who is also getting on board with Paul because these two truly want the job to cut the size of government,reduce the deficit and promote free enterprise. They both had and have a great life outside of Washington and were never Washington parasites.
If Romney somehow gets the nomination and wins the office of President…my prediction is that Romney will make Ronald Reagan look like Jimmy Carter!
Report Post »TRILO
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:52pmRomney should not have even brought it up. Now that he has it shows that he supported the takeover of GM by the federal government. Just as I’ve been saying all along, Romney is nothing more than a big government RINO.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:03pmLogical fallacies are the tactics of the left. You should be ashamed.
Report Post »hallkbrdz
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:14pmI’m not a Romney supporter – but he said (and was thinking I believe) – the president of GM – not Obama.
Of course the president of GM had so much help from DC, that it’s just about the same thing…
Report Post »Balthazor
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:51pmThis is why we need Ron Paul! Only Ron Paul will prevent people from being fired!!
Report Post »Al J Zira
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:55pmSeriously?
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:57pmWTF! No one can PREVENT people from being fired.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:00pmHow is he going to do that since he said he would shut down at least 5 federal bureaucracies?.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:02pm@Balthazor
So what is he going to be, a tyrant dictator who tells people who they can hire or fire?
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:13pmBalthazor sounds like the opposite of a Ron Paul supporter lol
Report Post »Balthazor
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:35pmWho cares about the details? Getting fired sucks, and Ron Paul is the only candidate who can ensure that nothing sucky will ever happen to anyone ever again. How hard is that to understand? You guys must all be a bunch of liberal progressive Republicans who want people fired!
Report Post »brdatwork2
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:02pmLMAO!!! Dude you are AWESOME!!
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:02pm@Moderation is best………I agree.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:05pmObviously Balthazor is NOT a Paul supporter.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:09pmI think you guys just got played by Balthazor. lol funny, even I was going to ask him what he was talking about.
Report Post »one.dakine.howlie
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:12pmGood grief… It’s because of people like you Balthazor that Ron Paul supporters get so much crap. What an ignorant, idiotic comment… “Getting fired sucks, and Ron Paul is the only candidate who can ensure that nothing sucky will ever happen to anyone ever again.“ At what point in history has the world never had ”sucky” things happen??? Isn’t it Obama that claims he can stop all sucky things from happening through a socialist country where everyone shares everything??? Go support him if you want that sort of world.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:20pmJust to clear this up here is Ron Paul on cutting government waste:
Makes a 10% reduction in the federal workforce, slashes Congressional pay and perks, and curbs excessive federal travel. To stand with the American People, President Paul will take a salary of $39,336, approximately equal to the median personal income of the American worker.
Report Post »SquishyBear
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:42pmVery funny dude (fyi that is what is called sarcasm folks, Balthazor is making a joke)
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:49pmMitt makes the point. It’s not a perfect comparison, but good enough to make the point to average folks who the Democrats are going to target with their garbage. And Rush is just trying to appear even-handed by criticizing Romney too after attacking Gingrich. Mitt could have also brought up all those folks at Solyndra who are now unemployed thanks to the Administration.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:01pmHe should have the point that unlike Barry, he was using private capital instead of taxpayer dollars.
Report Post »TeaPartyPatriot
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:44pmOur John Kerry…
He was FOR abortion before he was AGAINST it; he was FOR the individual mandate before he was AGAINST it; he was FOR appointing leftist activist judges before he was AGAINST it; he was FOR coddling ILLEGALS before he was AGAINST it; he was FOR the auto bailout before he was AGAINST it; he was FOR….
SO WHERE ARE THE SWIFT BOATERS WHEN WE REALLY NEED THEM ?????
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:52pmLets take a look at Ron Paul’s Plan for “ REAL SOLUTIONS”
As President, Ron Paul will lead the way out of this crisis by:
* Vetoing any unbalanced budget Congress sends to his desk.
* Refusing to further raise the debt ceiling so politicians can no longer spend recklessly.
* Fighting to fully audit (and then end) the Federal Reserve System, which has enabled the over 95% reduction of what our dollar can buy and continues to create money out of thin air to finance future debt.
* Legalizing sound money, so the government is forced to get serious about the dollar’s value.
* Ending the corporate stranglehold on the White House.
* Driving down gas prices by allowing offshore drilling, abolishing highway motor fuel taxes, increasing the mileage reimbursement rates, and offering tax credits to individuals and businesses for the use and production of natural gas vehicles.
* Eliminating the income, capital gains, and death taxes to ensure you keep more of your hard-earned money and are able to pass on your legacy to your family without government interference.
* Opposing all unfunded mandates and unnecessary regulations on small businesses and entrepreneurs.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:16pm@Recovering
In Iowa…Romney’s PAC spent millions on negative ads against Newt and that is JUST fine. Newt receives millions from a billionaire after Iowa and gives Romney a piece of his OWN medicine. Now…Newt is the BAD GUY!! I say way to go Newt and keep at it!!!!
Like Rick Perry says Bain Capital was Romney’s “get rick quick scheme” Rick Perry says what he means and means what he says….
Media…..“you got a name”
Debate….“Obama is a socialist”
Romney….“vulture capitalist”
Rick Perry…a man with GUTS who calls em like he sees em :))
And….Ron Paul is supporting Romney…heehee
Perry For President
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LibertarianRight
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:27pm@Clara: “Ron Paul is supporting Romney”
Bull. Paul is just honest enough to not attack Romney for being a capitalist – instead focusing on his atrocious record in office, and his horrible positions.
What are you going to do when Perry (and probably Gingrich and Santorum) drops out after SC/FL?
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:29pm@Libert
Rick Perry will do great in South Carolina…they love him in the south. Newt will do good there also.
Report Post »brdatwork2
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:05pm@ THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Dude not one thing you listed is even close to accurate…..try again.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:42pmI posted THIS comment earlier on another Romney thread…..
Concerning Bain…..
On cbs Romney said that what HE did was NO different from the Obama Administration auto industry bailouts. Romney compares his work at Bain Capital with WHAT Obama did with the federal bailout of GM. He is saying that HE is NO different than Obama!!
Romney is NO conservative!! And…hello??…Ron Paul is DEFENDING him??? Talk about supporting the status quo establishment!!!!!!!!!!
http://thehill.com/video/campaign/203497-romney-likens-work-at-bain-to-obamas-auto-industry-bailout/
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:47pm“Romney compares his work at Bain Capital with WHAT Obama did with the federal bailout of GM. He is saying that HE is NO different than Obama!!”
Interesting spin. I think you’re trying to hard, like Limbaugh. We all know that anti-Romneys are desperate to find something to attack him on, but that logic is exceptionally weak.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:49pm“Right wing rips Gingrich, Perry for attacks on Romney, capitalism”
The attacks from Gingrich and Perry, whose presidential campaigns are on life support, are meant to resonate in South Carolina, the next state on the GOP calendar and a place hit hard by the economic downturn.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/203581-right-wing-rips-gingrich-perry-for-attacks-on-romney-capitalism
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:52pmThey will run Mitt OUT of South Carolina….got bodyguards..you old blue blood you??
Report Post »TRILO
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:08pmGood try…Ron Paul was defending his actions at the venture capital firm as the means and processes of capitalism, messy and as unpopular as they may be; not the comparison between what Romney did and what Obama and Congress did. Newt and Perry are calling into questions Romney’s personal character (actually heard Newt say that on the radio today) because people lost jobs and companies filed bankruptcy. Unfortunately, in the private sector world people lose their jobs and companies go bankrupt. Ron Paul has never supported the take over of GM. By the comments Romney made he seem to feel that it is ok for the government to inject capital… taxpayer funds, into failing businesses in order to save them.
Newt seems to want it both ways… it seems to be incorrect to criticize him for taking money as a consultant (a legitimate business arrangement) from Fannie and Freddie soon before they went insolvent, yet he will criticize Romney for engaging in legal and appropriate business activity at the venture capital firm.
Ron Paul was once again correct in his defense of capitalism and markets free from governnment interference,
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:23pmPeople today are ignoring the facts and history of Romney the same way they ignored the facts and history of Obama. Then the battle cry was anyone but Bush. Today the battle cry is anyone but Obama. If we continue to ignor history we will continue blundering down the same road.
Report Post »USAF Warby
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:25pm“Romney went to France to study to get out of going to Vietnam. That is ALL i need to know about HIM!!”
Report Post »I can‘t take you seriously if you’re going to allow yourself to be so misinformed about a candidate. Mitt Romney‘s time in France wasn’t spent in school, it was spent as a volunteer missionary for his church. His typical day consisted of 10-14 hours of teaching people about Jesus Christ. He also didn’t choose to go to France, but was asked to go there by his church’s leadership. Do a little research and you’ll find out what Mitt Romney really thinks about France.
“Go back home Romney to one of your MANY MANY homes.”
You’re really going to attack his success? What are you, another leftist hack? Heaven forbid we should put someone competent and successful in the White House.
Now, as far as the issue of this “comparison” he made. It was a preemptive attack by Romney, as the eventual nominee, to tell the Obama administration “Look, you can’t even try to attack me on this issue without attacking your own record. On top of that, I did my business in the private sector, where it should be done, and did it successfully.” If you watch the video, Romney even ends by stating that his plan in Washington is exactly like his plan for businesses that he restructured at Bain: “I’m going to go to Washington and cut it down to size. Washington is simply too big.”
Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:26pm@Recovering
In Iowa……..Romney’s PAC spent millions on negative ads against Newt and that is JUST fine. Newt receives millions from a billionaire after Iowa and gives Romney a piece of his OWN medicine. Now…Newt is the BAD GUY!! I say way to go Newt and keep at it!!!!
Like Rick Perry says Bain Capital was Romney’s “get rick quick scheme” Rick Perry says what he means and means what he says….
Media…..“you got a name”
Debate….“Obama is a socialist”
Romney….“vulture capitalist”
Rick Perry…a man with GUTS who calls em like he sees em :))
And….Ron Paul is supporting Romney…heehee
Perry For President
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Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:35pmuh..huh…and Romney’s sons have never served either. And….he said that his sons were serving their country by helping HIM get elected….give me a break
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:22pm@USAF
Yes…i said his MANY MANY homes to make a point. He left behind good hard working people that lost their ONLY home that they had worked hard to pay for. And…he has MANY MANY homes to choose from.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:28pmClara88
Report Post »Perry is going to send our troops back to into Iraq. This should go over like a lead balloon in SC.
Good Luck with that.
Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:41pmSouth Carolina loves the military that is for sure and they LOVE Gov Perry for {{Volunteering}} to serve. He also said that if he were President he would have had a huge parade for the soldiers who came home from Iraq just before Christmas..to say thank you for your service and welcome home. Of course Obama said AND did nothing….shocker
Troops are STILL in Iraq and more are being deployed this month.
And Rick Perry is endorsed by The Veterans For Perry Coalition.
Report Post »amtsoundsmith
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 7:47pmRick Perry has performed horrible at the debates. He seems to have extreme difficulties getting his ideas across in a clear, concise way. I will say it was a brave/dumb move to say he wants to send troops back into Iraq ASAP. He could have explained his view on that in a much better way than he chose to do. But like commonsense said….good luck with that.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 9:29pmEveryone knows that i want Rick Perry to be the nominee but Newt is my 2nd choice.
Romney said he created 100,000 jobs….ok..prove it…were they America jobs? Nothing wrong with keeping him honest.
Report Post »aconstitutionalistlivesinbrooklyn
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 10:48pm@recoveringneocon. What Gingrich and Perry did is called demogoguery and its shameful.
Report Post »ares338
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:41pmI’m not sure but I think he managed to fit both of his feet into his mouth.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:46pmLOL == yep
Report Post »brdatwork2
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:11pmPull your fingers out of your ears and really try to understand the comparison he’s trying to make….not what Rush tells you.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:40pmhttp://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000066884
Report Post »The truth about P.E. (private equity).
brdatwork2
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:17pmExcellent explanation of private equity firms.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:39pmThe establishment Republicans and their establishment media (FOX) are at it again. The do everything except curse conservative Republicans and then cry when any conservative says anything negative against them. If liberal Romney loves the way Obama bailed out GM, then he must love the way Obama bailed out the banks. These liberal Republicans are a major reason we are in the fix we are in and they make me sick.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 7:40pmRomney is opposed to the auto bailout. Your Limbaugh God is filling your head with propaganda!
Report Post »Romney-Rubio 2012
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:39pmThis was comparing the one of 77 failed businesses that Romney worked with. Obama failed to keep his only business, minus Solyndra and all the rest. Romney has a better track record and that is set in the sand against Obama.
Report Post »QuIzAcK
Posted on January 12, 2012 at 12:47amMitt Romney!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_6BCXIsgLE
Wake up! Obama and Romney are the SAME PERSON!
Picking Romney over Obama is like picking a red Chevy over a blue Chevy! It’s still a Chevy, just a different color! Wake up!
Report Post »Romney-Rubio 2012
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:38pmNO THIS IS A PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE SO THE MEDIA CAN’T ATTACK ROMNEY WITHOUT ATTACKING OBAMA. HE IS SETTING UP THE NARRATIVE.
Romney now needs to explain the difference. Romney did it with private funds, Obama did it with tax-payer funds. Romney’s attempts mostly worked. Obama’s failed and just as Romney said before, GM needed to go through a re-organization through bankruptcy. Romney knows what he is doing in this one. Romney has a leg up on Obama on this and now Obama can’t attack with out being attacked.
GM was not a big attacking point before but now it is with Romney. Obama‘s attempts failed and most of Romney’s worked.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:48pmRomney went to France to study to get out of going to Vietnam. That is ALL i need to know about HIM!! And…he wants to be the Commander In Chief of our very brave Armed Forces..NO WAY!! You don’t deserve it!! Go back home Romney to one of your MANY MANY homes.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:51pmI agree!
Report Post »Romney-Rubio 2012
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:13pmSORRY FALSE,
He went to France to serve his church. My friend did the same thing. Leaving military service, while inside it, to serve his church. There is nothing disrespectful about that. Missionary work will help the world more than war will. You have to agree with that?
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:21pmYeah…and YOU are the one who has been posting ALL day that Romney is the Tea Party Candidate…nice try. He is a conservative??????????? LOL
Report Post »brdatwork2
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:21pm@Clara88 – WAKE UP!! Perry IS NOT the answer. Sheesh, that was obvious after the first debate!!
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:59pmHe’s a terrible debater. Oops, I mean he’s a heartless, horrible stupid and foolish debater. Did I say he was stupid?
Think again.
There have been some strong accusations against Rick Perry concerning his debating skills. I suppose, they’re with merit. Unfortunately for those merits, they’re easily and plausibly argued away with a few facts.
On Debating in General:
Perry never admitted it until recently, but, it’s long been suspected that Perry’s back surgery was the cause for his poor debate performances. In every single debate since, he’s excelled time and time again–he’s communicated his points with heart, making Mitt Romney look like a fool.
It is wrong to blame Rick Perry for his debate performances and not give him another chance
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 7:01pmCont
And if we’re going to look at Perry’s post-back surgery debates as what his credibility is, we could also look
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Clara88
Posted on January 9, 2012 at 2:16am
Cont…
at the fact that the guy who had no plans to do so entered the race for all of us while he was in pain. He stood on those stages for two hours–for us. He gave up his governorship he loved–for us. He gave up his life–for us. So if you’re going to create this ridiculous image that we need a good debater well, then, you’ve got one. You just aren’t paying attention.
I also seem to remember an old, tired and stupid president that made a few gaffes in his day
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 7:03pmCont
We’re all “Heartless.”
I could start this and end this with arguing the policy is good but, it’d be heartless to you to do that. The only solution for this result of fatigue is an apology and, as only some seemed to have realized, he’s apologized for it. This is an unfortunate mistake, and I think it is wrong of him to have said that. But, in the grand scheme of things, it means absolutely squat diddly. Yes, squat diddly. If you get to choose between a solid conservative who screwed up in a debate, a racist, a flip-flop or a progressive do you choose the guy that had a few slip ups or one of the three I just described? Well, I suppose that’s up to you.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 7:05pmlink to story
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cachapaboy
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 8:24pm@Clara88
Wow – for a moment I thought you might have a respectable opinion but after that round of comments I’m left scratching my head. Is it better to dedicate 2 years of your life to preach about Christ or is it better to unwillingly volunteer yourself “for your country” to fight in a war you may or may not agree with and which you, as a 19 year old, have nothing to do with? I won’t make this a debate about whether the draft is moral or not – but please educate yourself before you go posting disparaging remarks about someone or something you understand very poorly.
I also sacrificed 2 years of my life to preach about Christ in Venezuela. If I had been in the same position as Romney, I would have made the same choice because I felt it was my duty to God first, before my country. Believe me, I believe in gun rights, I believe in fighting to protect freedom, and I believe that there will always be valiant men and women who willfully volunteer to do just that – home or abroad. But don‘t criticize someone for fulfilling their religious beliefs and call it a willful act to dodge the ’responsibility‘ of being forced to take up arms and fight for another man’s war. Give a person his or her agency to make the decisions which affect their own lives (especially when it’s theirs alone).
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 9:43pmThere are MANY reasons that i don’t like Romney. Why won’t he show Americans his tax returns?? Is HE just like Obama hiding records?? And..IF he created 100,000 jobs like he SAYS he did…then prove it Romney. Where are these jobs? Are they American jobs? That is all Perry is asking….And he KNOWS what he is talking about when it comes to jobs…his record in Texas proves that….just be straight with the American people Romney.
I don’t call people names…put them down…tell them to do more research or that they don’t know what they are talking about.
God Bless Free Speech…for me and for you too.
Report Post »delawarebill
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:35pmAnd everyone calls Ron Paul crazy????
Report Post »Al J Zira
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:48pmRon Paul is a little crazy. Some of his supporters are from another planet though.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:57pmAsk yourself, WHO IS THE CRAZY ONE? ROMNEY believes Jesus and Satan were spirit brothers,ROMNEY believes blacks were fatherd by Satan ROMNEY believes Mary had physical sex with God ROMNEY believes underwear have holy power ROMNEY believes that men will become GodROMNEY believes there are many God’s ROMNEY believes his wives salvation is dependant on her submission to his sexual appetite. ROMNEY believes the bible is not as inspired as the “other” books. ROMNEY believes that God is currently by the star of Kolab having sex and producing “spirit babies”.ROMNEY believes in blood oaths. ROMNEY believes that Christians are a cultROMNEY believes his oath to the cult is more important than the Constitution.ASK YOURSELF, WHO IS THE CRAZY ONE?
THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:06pmThe very ethos of the Mormon faith is built around the anticipated return of Jesus to Independence, Missouri, for his thousand-year millennial reign. It is here that he will assign godhood to the worthy. However, it cannot take place until the U.S. Constitution falters and is saved by the LDS church. The nation will become a Mormon theocracy. Mitt Romney has raised Mormon speculation that this may be the time and that he may be the one to lead the way as both U.S. President and LDS high priest.
brdatwork2
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:49pm@THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
AGAIN you post nothing but falsehoods. Dude….not one thing you said is accurate. Go read about the Mormons at LDS.org. Learn the truth from the source, not from haters or you will become a hater like them (I think you may already be there).
Report Post »SUMTHINSTINKS
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:34pmOHHH….YES he did!!! http://www.kingofbain.com
Report Post »brdatwork2
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:50pm“Paid for by Newt Gingrich”
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:34pmlol – you guys are stuck with Mitt! Obama 2012
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 5:45pmNope…Rick Perry will win S C….they love him in the south…that is the place where Presidents are MADE
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:30pmOh Mitt you’ve stepped in it again.
Report Post »Not to mention you’ve the exact same big banks and business paying for your presidential seat as Obama has. You’ve More than doubled these contributions than all the other republican candidates, combined.
Sorry, Mitty people want a conservative, not a liberal corporate, big government huckster who has NEVER said he’d repeal Obamney Care if he was able to buy the white house.
I won’t vote for you, ever.
BetterDays
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 6:42pmhttp://www.inquisitr.com/165588/mitt-romney-aides-paid-97000-to-erase-governorship-records/
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