Did the Accused Family Research Council Shooter Target a Second Christian Group Too?
- Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:47am by
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Local and federal investigators work to gather evidence after a security guard was shot in the arm at the headquarters of the Family Research Council Aug. 15, 2012 in Washington, D.C. The head of a second conservative Christian organization said Friday the accused shooter had a note with her group's contact information and may have targeted them, too. (Getty Images)
WASHINGTON (AP) — The head of a second Christian conservative organization said Friday she was told by authorities that a note containing her group’s contact information was found in the pocket of a man charged with opening fire at the Washington offices of another such group, wounding a security guard.
Traditional Values Coalition President Andrea Lafferty said FBI agents visited her group’s Capitol Hill offices hours after the Wednesday morning shooting as part of their investigation. The next day, she said, members of the Joint Terrorism Task Force came by and confirmed that “our information was in his pocket,” including the location of the group’s offices.
“I was stunned,” Lafferty told The Associated Press, adding that she believes her group may have been targeted.
It wasn’t immediately clear if that was the case.
An FBI representative could not be immediately reached for comment late Friday.
The accused shooter, Floyd Lee Corkins II, of Herndon, Va., was ordered held without bond Thursday on accusations he opened fire in the lobby of the Family Research Council in downtown Washington.
Corkins, whose parents said he strongly supported gay rights, had a backpack full of Chick-fil-A sandwiches and a box of ammunition when he said words to the effect of “I don’t like your politics” and shot a security guard, authorities said.
The guard was shot in the left arm but nonetheless managed to help take down the gunman, preventing what the police said could have been a deadly attack.
It wasn’t immediately clear why Corkins, 28, had the chicken sandwiches.
Like the FRC, the Traditional Values Coalition has supported the president of Chick-Fil-A and his staunch opposition to same-sex marriage.
Tony Perkins, who heads the Family Research Council, hinted Thursday at a news conference that the FRC was not the only group targeted, although he did not elaborate.
“Maybe, going forward, you may find out more information that we may not have been the only one,” he said.
While blaming Corkins for the shooting, Perkins also faulted the Southern Poverty Law Center, an Alabama-based civil rights organization that tracks and litigates against hate groups. On its website, the law center labels both Washington conservative organizations as “active anti-gay groups.”
Lafferty also was critical of the law center. “We have been on their hit list longer than any other group,” she said.
Mark Potok, a senior fellow at the SPLC, had called Perkins’ accusation “outrageous.” He said the council earned the designation for spreading false propaganda about the gay community, not for its opposition to same-sex marriage.
Lafferty said she has written Attorney General Eric Holder seeking protection for her group, but that authorities have not been responsive.
“Under this Justice Department, Christians are a very low priority on their lists of concerns,” she said
Corkins had recently been volunteering at a D.C. community center for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people. He lived with his parents in northern Virginia.
Prosecutors requested a mental health evaluation, and Corkins’ public defender did not address the allegations in court.
Corkins faces charges of assault with intent to kill and bringing firearms across state. The judge ordered him held pending a hearing next week.
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smartgirl
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:17pmWell, let’s see: Guy shoots a guard at the Family Research Council as he headed in with 15 chicken sandwiches. Guard has a gun, so shooter gets no further; if he got inside to distribute his sandwiches, all hell could have broken loose. Guy was LGBT volunteer and told guard he didn’t like the political orientation of the FRC. Strange how the LSM find nothing to see here: No political motive whatsoever; appropriate target if there was one; move along, nothing to see here. What was once the major media are now the progressive media; part of the problem. Turn to FOX for a half-decent shot at the news (only half; fair and balanced, you know.)
Report Post »db321
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 3:03pmEvery Liberal Marxist Media station reported that the CEO of Chick-Fil-A gave money to Hate Organization. Why do I know this, because the day after Appreciation day I was confronted by a Liberal dork – she told me that the CEO of Chick-fil-a gave to hate groups. I asked her to name me just one of the Hate Org. She could not do it.
Then on the way home, I hear the CFO for Avante go weird on an attendant at Chick-fil-a. He too repeated the same talking points of the Liberal Media that day – CFL gives money to “Hate Groups”
Now this young , filled with hate useful idiot will spend the rest of his life knowing that the Liberal Media lied to him about this so called Hate Organization – shame on the Liberal Media.
The CFO of Avante – loses his job and will spend the rest of his life knowing that the Liberal Media lied to him about these so called Hate Group – shame on the Liberal Media.
A true Hate Group in America is Obama’s Lap Dog Liberal media. Just ask the Christian and Jews that are now running for their lives today in Egypt, only one month after the so called Facebook Peaceful Muslim Brotherhood took power in Egypt – Shame on you Liberal Media – WAIT – There is INNOCENT BLOOD being shed in Egypt and it is now that Blood is dripping on the HANDS of EVERY EMPLOYEE That works and reports the news for the lying liberal Media. God will judge ALL for EVERY Word and Deed!
Oh yea – The Liberal Media thinks that God is also a Hate Group! Wake Up!
Report Post »Amarilloan
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 5:04pmDB, I knew it! God and Jesus lead a hate group. Why didn’t I see this before? LBGTXYZ and FFRFGF are the true loving people in the world! I’ve been blind all this time!
Report Post »Kunoichi
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 7:35pmI read that the guard was unarmed.
Report Post »stefiscool
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:06pmMy brother, a liberal, said the same thing-that the Church is a hate group. While he’s boycotting CFA, I was wondering if he was going to boycott Mom, as well, seeing as how she tithes to a hate group (AKA the Catholic Church) every week.
Report Post »PutMoreOnMyPlate
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 12:46pmI have a gay friend at work and he showed me an anti-CFA meme and I had to carefully *eggshell walking is a talent of mine* ask him if he saw any hate coming from me. He said no. I asked him were was the hate in Cathy’s statement. He couldn’t tell me but he came back with how Cathy supports hate groups. I asked him to tell me how any of those groups were hate groups. He told me that they make it harder for him to get married. Because one day he wants to get married in a church because all of his family were married in a church and now he’s an outsider because of a book that was written a thousand years ago. I stopped the conversation, went in and prayed for him as I do now. As far as I’m concerned the whole movement is contradictory to its goals and I am angry at the people behind it that think by criminalizing one point of view they can justify another point of view. And meanwhile they’re using my friends by ******** promises of freedoms and rights in exchange for never ever being able to go back and change their lifestyle. By attacking Chick-fil-A and the groups they support go further than just hating Christians. They hate their own that turn straight because while the argument is “born that way” and mine is “choice,” they try to make sure that it’s instilled that being gay is permanent and there is no going back. Well honey, I did, so when you attack CfA or any of the groups they supported, well, you don’t know any better.
Report Post »Soul Leister
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:41amI hope the FBI checked the 15 Chick-Fil-A sandwiches to see if they had been poisoned!!! He was posing as a delivery man (sounds like plan “A” was make them choke on Chick-Fil-A sandwiches but the guard was having none of it and duffus had to switch to plan “B” start shooting).
I think the FBI dropped the ball by throwing away the sandwiches before anyone could check them for poison… everything is going to hell under Obama, it would seem.
Report Post »Stevie Scardone
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:00pmMore information on the Traditional Values Coalition http://steveaiken.com/tvc
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:31pmDomestic Terrorism…AND…Hate Crime!
Report Post »I would say send him to GITMO except it is too nice there.
Life sentence in the nastiest prison in the country is what I think.
But in, “sur-reality”, he might just become part of the Obama administration.
woodyl1011fl
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:48pmObama will hire him as part of the HSA’s domestic terrorist office after all Christians are named by them as a probable domestic terror groups. Wake up America this is most evil, wicked, administration ever voted into office in the USA ever!!!! November 6, will be our last chance to even remain a semi-free nation if we don;t get this man, a wannabe dictator, and his Fascist Marxist totalitarian party out of office everywhere. The US Senate is crucial and every democrat senator up for reelection needs to be defeated if we are to survive as fee people. Getting the Marxists in the House defeated would also be a plus.
Report Post »norbit
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:24pmWhere’s President “CIVILITY”? – or does the FRAUD only pop up when he can smear Republicans with the civility label?
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Also:
Dateline 08-18-12…..CNN, once again shilling for the Obama campaign, asks their on-site Ryan correspondent if the crowd at Th e Villages was “hand-picked” by the Romney-Ryan campaign; then, covers a subsequent Obama rally yet to begin, and gushes the “seats are already filling up”!
The COLLUSION MEDIA EXPOSED! – AGAIN!
Report Post »(Feel free to friend me on fb/norbit.peters)
Wango
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:20pmActually, some people say his plan was to kill every Christian in the United Staes and then shred and smoke their bodies into handy beef jerky packets for liberals to eat. Though, as the article states, “It wasn’t immediately clear if that was the case.”
Report Post »ManassasGrandma
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:33pmThat’s not really funny. It would be so sad if the US broke up and it looks like that is where we are heading. Nothing is ever enough for the left.
Report Post »Wango
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:47pmAnd nothing is ever enough for the right. Your turn.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:20pmWango, I know that you are being facetious, but you should know that that plan is close to a plan espoused by an early political supporter of Barack Hussein Obama II’. The man’s name is William Ayres. He co-founded “The Weather Underground” which worked for a violent revolution in America to establish a Stalinist state. Re-education camps in which 10‘s of millions of Americans would die were contemplated and approved by Obama’s sponsor.
Report Post »Please learn some history — it will help you understand what “Progressives” are really about.
Walkabout
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:31pmFrom the urban dictionary:
1. Someone who appears to be strange, peculiar or odd. A synonym for weirdo. Also a term of endearment.
2. The act of eating out someones butt hole
3. A word to be used in place of sh_t or f_ck.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wango
Report Post »The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 3:03pmWhat’s wrong, sad you couldn’t have top comment again to platform your propaganda?
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 1:22amI read he was clearly a ‘plant’,
Report Post »Wango
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 12:03pmWANKABOUT . . . Still smarting from the whole teabuggerer thing, eh? Yeah, that one worked out pretty well for the libs. You call yourselves that sparkling new patriotic name, hung all those tea bags from the brims of your hats, and then . . .OOPS! Now you cry about being called what you call yourselves. That’s kinda sad. If you can’t be trusted with creating your own nickname, how can we trust you with the economy? We can’t. But we can trust that you‘ll dip into your scat fascination with great regularity It’s the “go to” whine for the right.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:30amWango – Since when can we trust you Marxists with the economy or anything for that matter?
Report Post »Alduin
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:56amI surpised that the security guard didn’t shoot him or beat him up more
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 6:19pmIt would have made the perp a victim. Thank God the security guard had restraint. Also, the perp was begging him not to shoot him because it was about politics.
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 1:24amThe guy was a plant.
Report Post »I’m surprised the guard only got a superficial arm would,
Git-R-Done
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:31amVoiceofnoreason – Any proof that he’s a plant? The shooter‘s father said that he’s a big supporter of homosexual rights.
Report Post »ThorLoser
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:53amNot clear why he had teh chicken sandwiches?
Gimme a break! He was obviously gonna drop one by each person he killed as a statement.
Report Post »The Jewish Avenger
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:20pmMakes sense, a *pile of sticks* new violent crime calling card.
Report Post »Carlinpa
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:36amAhh yes the ever tolerant open minded left. When an incident happens the media immediately without ANY facts accuses the conservative.. here with the shooter specifically stating it was political, the media will be silent If this doesn’t show you the character or lack thereof of liberals, nothing will.
Does that wicked hypocrisy reflect your values?
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:19amI just guessing this guy is gay judging from his target and choice of lunchmeat. Doesn’t that make this an act of gay terrorism? Or am I wrong? Anyone know who he dates?
Silversmith
Report Post »republitarian
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:13amExactly what is a hate group?
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:34amanything that little hobbit at the spl center doesn’t like. google him he looks like he crawled out from under a bridge to steal peoples children he is about as creepy as it gets.
Report Post »TWO BITS
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:03amEric Holder‘s department stays busy protecting the rights of every atheist or pagan to deluge our court system with outrageous complaints about every facet of America’s Christian heritage.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:07amYeah, funny how the Justice Department wastes all that time protecting people’s rights.
Report Post »Sara123
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:24amEric Holder made clear that only his people have civil rights. In addition, Obama’s named conservative Christians as domestic terrorists and they smear Christians to all law enforcement in the country. He has the US military running war games in a confrontation with the Tea Party.
Christian leaders need to research this stuff and start suing. Our government is not permitted to target US citizens for political murder…er…wait a minute! Homeland inSecurity, DOJ, DOD and Obama have the power to murder Americans they deem domestic terrorists now. This is no joke and gettting a Republican in and in charge of the Federal smear and murder machine is not going to make it all go away. It will just be resumed again by the next leftist in the White Hut. They need to be cleaned up and teach law enforcement and military personel that conservatives are not terrorist enemies of the State.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:30amHere‘s an instance of the Justice Dept protecting people’s rights..On August the 16th..a former decorated marine..I believe he’d been home for 1 yr..was taken into custody by FBI and Secret Service for posting patriotic postings to his FACEBOOK..
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaE5zChbC5w&feature=player_embedded
ashestoashes
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:38amFormer decorated Marine arrested Aug 16 for posing patriotic posts to Facebook..Ruab Brandon.. see utube video.. his mom shows his Facebook page..and in it I believe this was posted from the night before.. Obama Administration refuses to tell judge if NDAA is being illegally enforced.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZjXHjkzMD4
Brandon also had this video posted..the greatest speech ever given.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibmcsEGLKo&feature=player_embedded
The Jewish Avenger
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:59pm“Yeah, funny how the Justice Department wastes all that time protecting people’s rights.”
You forgot the ending
…except for Christians
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 2:00pmPencil you think the just us dept is protecting peoples rights? You are an Obozo leftist aren’t you? Your sad, truly sad. Look, let me be clear. Fast and Furious NBPP voter intimidation and dead non citizens and dead and alive dogs voting for Obozo…. that’s protecting peoples rights, right? Who you think you are the hapless Toure?
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 2:15pmInteresting–I’ll be following this Raub Brandon case as details emerge. If this man is innocent, then clearly this was a severe violation of his rights.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 2:52pmAshes to Ashes
He said stuff like “The revolution starts now” No threat against the President, so why was the Secret Service there?
The Black Panthers & Nation of Islam says this all the time. They never get arrested. I see a double standard here. When you allow one group to foam at the moth & get other fearful & do nothing (as the government), you can expect others to get agitated.
Of course that is a cynical strategy too. Do nothing about one group threatening violence against another group. Do nothing & wait long enough when the latter group gets agitated& them clamp down on them.
Report Post »Amarilloan
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 5:17pmPublius, you really need to brush up on your history. The liberals did not embrace all of those ideals. They embraced a way for those ideals to be used to make people dependent on the government. Every one of those ideals were espoused by the conservatives (without dependency).
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:42pmAmarilloan,
What you have there is not history–you only have a set of ideological assumptions that are so vague and general as to have no content at all.
Report Post »GrayPanther
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:57amDo we really need any more information to determine if the Obama administration needs replacing? Good God people! Let’s put some energy into helping the Romney-Ryan ticket get elected with our shoe leather and donations. Enough already! Most of us with IQ’s above room temperature have known for 3-4 years this Marxist in the White House and his racist wife are not for the America we love. So let’s get on with removing this cancer from our government. And while we are at it, remove enough progressive Democrat senators to send Harry Reid to the basement of the senate office building. Amen.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:08amAnd what connection does this shooter have with the Obama administration?
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:10amWhy would anyone Trust the AG or SS… when they are AntiAmerican Socialists… and At War with their Enemies? Trust in… GOD… and Luke 22:36… and get on with Life!
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:15amReally Publis, the rise in leftist activism and violence in this country can easily be attributed to the level of tolerance and even protection afforded it by this administration. Don’t pretend not to see it.
Silversmith
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:42pmYes, because the pro-gun control liberals are the ones behind all the gun violence, while the “2nd amendment solution” conservatives are always the innocent victims of gun crimes.
I wonder if it actually physically hurts to contort yourself so far to reinforce your own mindless ideology.
Report Post »The Jewish Avenger
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:01pmRemember to use those “pro-gun control liberals ” as meat shields when you are running away from another violent crime and cant defend yourself.
Report Post »woodyl1011fl
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 2:07pmRight on Graypanther!!
Report Post »PubliusPencilman: He has the same worldview belief system and lived it out. there is nothing new here concerning the left’s actions..
By the way the NBPP is not right wing. It is the usual left wing violent tyrannical despotic political organization and you are deluded if you the think the left is for civil rights just watch the for thirty minutes and you will or look on the internet and see how the left passionately wants to destroy any opposition to this corrupt, evil administration bent on enslaving every man woman and child in this nation. Further more the SPLC is an evil, hate-mongering group of Marxist/communist/secularist revolutionaries.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 2:23pmWoody,
So, to you, “left wing” means everything bad, no matter where that thing lies on the political spectrum. So, your argument is that despite an entire history of liberals leading the charge for women’s rights, African American rights and the rights of religious minorities, somehow they didn’t really mean it, and really what they want to do is oppress everyone?
Instead of an argument, all you have their is hysterical ranting that comes down to left=evil, right=good despite all contemporary and historical evidence to the contrary. Unplug from talk radio for a little while and think for yourself.
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 5:41pm@Publius – so you go from a correlation between liberal activism and this administration’s encouraging attitudes toward same, to conspiracy’s about the second amendment ?
So WHO’S contorting??
Silversmith
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:37pmSilversmith,
What conspiracies have I been discussing? The idea of “second amendment solutions” is common among Tea Party folks and a number of conservative politicians. Do I think anyone is going to overthrow the government? No, but this is an accepted concept within right wing rhetoric. No conspiracy.
Report Post »indy1
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:49amLib media desperately wishing story would go away!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:36amThey are doing their best to IGNORE IT! Now if he were a radical .. you know like a TEA Party member this would be news 24/7.
Report Post »MeteoricLimbo
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:47pmIts pretty sad when a belief in a power larger then ones self is looked down upon by anyone. Let alone ignored.
Report Post »Diane TX
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:46am“Big Sis and Obozo are in the tank for muslims.”
It’s not so much that these Commies are enthralled with Islam, as it is that they are enthralled with the absolute obedience of Islam’s followers to one centralized figurehead.
Islam (to them) is so much better than Christianity because Christianity only claims authority on religious matters, while Islam claims authority over every aspect of the follower’s life. It’s a want-to-be dictator’s dream.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:53amIndeed, and Obama will make his move to become a dictator in fact before much more time passes.
Report Post »The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:07amIslam and Marxism parallel in mindset. Both of their founders decreed that each idealogy is fatally predestined to come about, which is why both will never tire, never give up. Not so long as they breath, they will continue to lie, connive, and conquer.
The Muslim brotherhood has learned some tactics from progressives, that evolution beats revolution. Just look at Egypt, a bloody coup is not necessary to bring about totalitarian regime. The communists have taught the Brotherhood their most effective tactic: patience.
That‘s not to say the Muslim brotherhood will not take what they can’t through treachery with force. They are not above such strategy, and neither are progressives.
Stay alert
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:13am“Islam (to them) is so much better than Christianity because Christianity only claims authority on religious matters, while Islam claims authority over every aspect of the follower’s life.”
Yes, because Christians never cite Christianity as their reason for opposing abortion or gay marriage. In this context, it seems rather funny that so many of you are dedicated to bringing religion into government–to breaking down exactly that separation of religious and political/legal issues that prevents the U.S. from becoming a theocracy like the Islamist countries you hate.
Yes, clearly Christianity has no central figure (Jesus, the Pope, megachurch pastors, etc.).
Report Post »The Jewish Avenger
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:03pmOk I give up
Who really is
PubliusPencilman?
Any guesses?
Report Post »(besides a failtroll)
Cymry
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 2:51pmaccute observation, cabrito. the simple reason is that they have the same source, satan.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 4:28pmKeep guessing Jewish Avenger–obviously its easier to attack a person than try to refute their arguments.
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:19amThis Leftist and the Leftist Batman Shooter along with the leftist Al Qiada Yemeni trained Little Rock Army attacker, along with the Al Qiada loyal Fort Hood leftist were all classified as anything but Terrorist’s. But what do you know…. the leftist Nazi Wisconsin shooter was automatically classified as a domestic terrorist by Big Sis before the story hit the newspapers.
Big Sis and Obozo are in the tank for muslims.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:37amIt’s not so much that they ar in the tank for the Muslims..The Muslims are just getting used..they are like a covert military for the Shadow Government..Think 9/11 and the 700 billion in TARP.to Sharia Compliant Banks meaning that they pay 2.5 % of every investment to organizations funding terrorism. and 7% for even one Sharia Law broken.. here is a list of Sharia Compliant Banks..Remember that the un Federal Reserve is their boss and Goldman Sachs is backing both candidates.
Report Post »http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/02/02/shariah-finance/
PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:14amI think you need to look up what “leftist” means. You keep using that word, but you clearly have no understanding.
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 1:50pmPubliuspencilmam, I know what I’m talking about Pencil. I get your an atheist and you think that that means that Obozo is your man. Wrong. Anyone with anything resembling a functioning brain wouldn’t, couldn’t, and shouldn’t support anything Ozero Obozo. 8 out of 10 of these mass shooters are leftist. Look it up fool. Haha so your voting for Obozo ..and you want to debate the Right? Is that right? and I don’t know what a leftist is Pencil?
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 2:19pmDoomy,
I am neither an atheist nor am I an uncritical follower of Obama. If you are trying to demonstrate how you know what you are talking about, completely making up stuff you don‘t know isn’t a great way to do that.
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 3:23pmWell Pencil, you said you are not an uncritical follower of Obama. Call me a crazy, but if you are a follower of Obozo at all, then you don’t know what your talking about. Help me out her Mozart name one thing you are critical of Obama about .. also name one thing that you think that Obama has done that is good for the country. You know, our Country, not this transformed welfare state living off of borrowed money that thinks that all of these obese people are hungry.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 4:43pmDoomy,
It doesn‘t much matter what I do and don’t agree with Obama on–it‘s beside the point we’re discussing. I would, however, like to see your source on that little factoid that 8 out of 10 mass shooters are leftists.
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 5:25pmOk Pencil, here is an internal statistic for you. Virginia Tech -Wacky Leftist Amish School Killer – Leftist
Report Post »The Joker Brian Ross thought was a Tea person no – Leftist Jarrod Loughner – A call for Civility- Leftist Hassan Holder calls it a disgruntled shooter – leftist Crazy Family Research Council shooter obvious leftist. The Sikh temple shooter = not a conservative, so Nazi = wacky lefty. How isn’t a lefty? OK City and Norway killer perhaps. All of the Columbine and high mass shootings = mis / dis / and Uninformed leftist. So which leftist mass shooters am I forgetting. The statistic may be closer to 90% leftist. I stand corrected.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:07pmDoomy,
You’re assertions there make no sense, and merely reflect the most unsubstantiated claims that inevitably circulate on right wing talk radio. Loughner cannot be consistently pinned to either side of the spectrum, there is no evidence that the V-Tech and Amish school killers were leftists–what motives have been found for them have nothing to do with the political left. And then there is this gem:
Report Post »“The Sikh temple shooter = not a conservative, so Nazi = wacky lefty.”
Sorry friend, but that’s not how logic works. That doesn’t follow, and if it did, the Nazi’s were not lefties. The very definition of “right wing” politics is the belief in political hierarchy, and the denial of equality, and those are two of the most prominent facets of Nazism and the broader doctrine of fascism.
So, basically it seems your qualification for being a “lefty” is to not be proven a tea party conservative (regardless of whether your motives are political or not). The logical behind this is so obviously flawed that I don’t have much to say here. Please, stop merely repeating this talk radio drivel.
HKS
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:03amThe demonetization of the christian religion by this Muslim administration has consequences, they should be held accountable. Your vote at the polls will speak volumes with a landslide ousting of them.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 2:24pmObama is not a Muslim and Christians are not being demonized. Stop being insane.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:30amCorkins had recently been volunteering at a D.C. community center for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people. He lived with his parents in northern Virginia.
Would it be all over the news if a Christian group “targeted” the above group and marched in there with a gun! Would Holder respond immediately!! Who are the violent ones? The Progressives have the mentality of little children. If I don‘t get what I want and you disagree with me I’m going to get even. It really must be a mental disorder to be a Progressive.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:41amProgressivism is indeed a mental disorder,of course it isn’t recognized as such by the American psychiatriac association since most members are probably progressives.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 4:45pmYes, sure, the Progressives have the mentality of children and you folks are the adults. That’s why you are all hiding out here on these Conservative boards making pointless and immature comments about how everyone who disagrees with you has a mental disorder.
Grow up.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:32amPublius – It’s you Marxists who are the ones who are whining for the government to provide for your needs from cradle to grave, so you have no right to even call yourself an adult.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:16amhate group got hated on, karma.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:30amConsidering that you also view The United States Marine Corps as a ‘hate group’, nobody gives a rat’s @ss what you think about this or anything else.
Report Post »dublinthewagons
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:41am@ INDIVIDUALISM you need a brain transplant. I’ll go find some doggie poop for your transplant
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:59amDUBLINTHEWAGONS Doggie poop? Don‘t take it off Barry’s plate he’ll have the SS shoot you. :)
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:05amGonzo: and let us not forget INDI also trashes the Mormon religion. One of his big beefs with Romney. INDI is one of our extremist haters. Guess it’s hard to label ” right or left.” but think they are all the same : anarchists at heart which is probably why they were attached to the Ron Paul message which they have misinterpreted but keep spouting here to trash Romney , a law and order guy. The INDI crew shares the same basic hates as the Lefty OWS: police, laws, authority , religion, capitalism and other “ traditional” value systems.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:10amits not hate, its the fact that his group he preaches for is a hate group.
Report Post »Jezreel
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:26amIt is a person with a mental illness that thinks that only if you believe in their point of view and none other, that it is a hate group. How come they can have their opinion but nobody else think differently? We have a family member like that and they have been mentally ill their whole life. They never take responsibility for the awful things she does either. She is completely alone and now she is old, she is all alone, cut off from the rest of the family in a retirement apartment where nobody goes and sees her because as you grow older with this mental disease of “liberal progressivism” (narcisstic personality disorder” and you never repent or change, you also die completely alone and nobody has to listen to their crap anymore. A person like Individulaism most probably lives a life of fornication and dishonesty and has all kinds of “unfair” life altercations. They are simply reaping what they sow but don’t have the wisdom or common sense to break free of their twisted warped views that evil is good and good is evil.
Report Post »QuincySmith
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:28amIndividualism;
“hate group got hated on, karma.” ~~~~ I reserve personal comments for this kind of logic: YOU’RE AN IDIOT!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:30amBarber, he hates all religion and mocks people of all faiths.
Report Post »The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:58amThat’s karma? I thought you said you were an atheist, Indie
Report Post »dublinthewagons
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:19amINDIVIDUALISM is a certified, union card carrying, full blown diot.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:13amThe Southern Poverty Law Center which is here in our state is truly an evil organization. Frankly, I say they play a major role in many of the nation’s problems. The keep adding organizations like The New Black Panther Party to their list of right wing potential terror groups. They are using such additions to inflate the “numbers” on the list.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:59amNBPP is labeled as right wing ? Is this the way the Left gets a pass on their OWS/ Black Bloc/ anarchists ? By labeling all wacko groups as “ right ” wing ? They need to start labeling “ extremist ” groups which all of these nut jobs are. Right or Left doesn’t matter. Bullying, intimidating and violent language should be the issue. It isn’t a matter of ” direction.” It is a matter of hate and violence. The Lefties are tricksters: they redefine words to serve their agenda . Marriage. Transparent. Forward. All redefined to serve their agenda of ” change.”
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:29amBARBER2, It’s a numbers game that SPLC is playing to inflate the number of so called Right Wing Hate Groups on their hit list. They use those numbers to tell the public and the MSM that the number of right wing hate groups are growing. They also lump in various peaceful Christian organizations who refuse to go along with the left’s ideals.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:17am“The Southern Poverty Law Center which is here in our state is truly an evil organization.”
So what exactly does it take to be qualified as “evil” in your book? Basically anything you disagree with? The word “evil” is quite strong, and when you use it to describe anyone who annoys you, you really make a fool out of yourself.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:21amWhat’s more, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Feel free to peruse the SPLC’s page on the NBPP:
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/new-black-panther-party
Nowhere on that page does it mention the NBPP as a “right wing” organization. You’ve just made that up. You really need to do some research before you start spewing nonsense.
Report Post »Belwraith
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:22pmMaybe if you took the time to do some real research instead of picking out the first article you get from the search menu you’d see…if you’re going to accuse others of not doing their research you should make sure you do yours properly to begin with. Here’s the article with the list that names the leader of the New Black Panthers as one of the people heading up the radical right. http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/summer/30-to-watch Panthers as a
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 12:51pmBelwraith,
Alright, that’s fair, although it seems strange that the NBPP is never actually mentioned as a right-wing organization.
But OK–what then is your objection to this organization being seen as “Right Wing”? It is a Nationalist-Separatist organization specifically opposed to the liberal civil rights agenda. How exactly would this make it more “left wing” than “right wing”?
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:50amPublius – That’s b/c you left wingers are ok with anti-white racism and the NBPP also supports socialism.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:11amDon’t Call Holder.He will send the DOJ AFTER you for not letting this gay activist kill you!
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 9:11am“Under this Justice Department, Christians are a very low priority on their lists of concerns,” she said
I‘m afraid you’re mistaken mam,the Dept. of injustice has Christians as their top priority,surveillance,persecution,the usual stuff at least since the current Marxist regime has been ruling us.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 11:22amOh no, Christians are persecuted! Please, provide examples. I’m a bit tired of this whining and crying.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:42pmSo all of these lawsuits against Christians for the false “Separation of Church and State” clause isn’t persecution? The only group of people who are whining and crying are lefties who think that the government should have to provide for them from cradle to grave.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 11:50amNo, that’s not persecution. Those lawsuits are meant to ensure that government institutions are neutral and secular–this does not persecute Christians anymore than it persecutes and other system of belief.
Are you really saying that Christians are persecuted if they are not allowed to push their religion through public institutions?
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:33amPublius – That’s a lie that you Marxists have been spewing out for the past 60 years. Expressing freedom of religion doesn’t mean forcing your beliefs onto anyone.
Report Post »dannyo
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:55amthe guy deserves the death penalty..enough said…next..
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:54am‘Lafferty said she has written Attorney General Eric Holder seeking protection for her group, but that authorities have not been responsive.‘ Don’t count on Holder to protect you lady. He’s rooting for the other team.
Report Post »The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 10:57amI feel like Holder is more corrupt than Obama sometimes
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 4:56pmToo close to call Cab.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:54amThe left in this country and globally is always violent,they use violence to achieve their goals,just look at the OWS lunatics with all the murders and rapes.It‘s a sign of the times and it’s fostered by the divider in chief,a vile Marxist POS.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on August 18, 2012 at 8:54amAndrea Lafferty reached out to Eric Holder for protection for her Christian group and of course never heard back from him.
If that were not so sad I would laugh at her naivete.
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