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Bachmann Campaign Responds to Slavery Reference in Controversial Marriage Pact

Bachmann Campaign Responds to Slavery Reference in Controversial Marriage PactOver the past week, news has been swirling around The Family Leader, an Iowa-based conservative group that created a marriage pact for presidential candidates (it has been signed by former Sen. Rick Santorum and Rep. Michele Bachmann).

The document, entitled, “The Marriage Vow: A Declaration of Dependence Upon Marriage and Family,” defends traditional marriage, discusses the impact of divorce and takes a strong stance against Sharia Islam. The controversy, though, has surrounded the pact’s curious statement on slavery. The declaration says:

Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an AfricanAmerican baby born after the election of the USA’s first African-American President.

While the passage was allegedly removed following public outcry (though it still appears in the document here), the controversy surrounding it has yet to simmer. Now, some in the media are attacking Bachmann’s response, claiming that — like the original statement in the declaration — her campaign’s response is insensitive. Politico has more:

A Bachmann spokeswoman said earlier Saturday that reports the congresswoman had signed a vow that contained the slavery language was wrong, noting it was not in the “vow” portion.

“She signed the ‘candidate vow,’ ” campaign spokeswoman Alice Stewart said, and distanced Bachmann from the preamble language, saying, “In no uncertain terms, Congresswoman Bachmann believes that slavery was horrible and economic enslavement is also horrible.”

Mediaite’s Tommy Christopher had this to say about the response:

Here’s a pro tip: if you really think something is horrible, you don’t then list something far less horrible, and say that it’s horrible, too.

The one saving grace here is that it was a spokesperson, and not Rep. Bachmann herself, who made the statement. If the congresswoman is asked about it, she needs to make clear, in no uncertain terms, that slavery was not only way more horrible than economic slavery, but that it actually included economic slavery, along with every other adjective you can put in front of the word slavery.

After that, she should probably stop talking about slavery until she’s had some time to read up on it.

The Bachmann campaign has surely attempted to do some damage control surrounding the document’s slavery reference. While Stewart distanced the presidential candidate from the preamble, The Washington Post wonders how it was possible to miss the wording when the entire declaration spanned just four pages. Keith Olbermann, as could be expected, also went nuclear on Bachmann’s signing of the document. He called her “either crazy or un-American”:

Santorum, while claiming that he was initially “taken aback” by the pledge, said that he does not find the document intrusive. One wonders: Was the slavery reference one of the elements that contributed to the politician’s initial feelings on the declaration?

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  • Ghandi was a Republican
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:46pm

    Liberals have been yearning for the return of Slavery for over a 100 years.. They are encouraged greatly by their progress in their beloved “Projects” a.k.a. vote plantations! They will not succeed by disguising the spread of their disease as ‘equality’.. You be equal all you want down their in the progressive collective Kamps (a.k.a. projects). When you want to escape, the rest of America will embrace you with open arms – as we do 10,000s of thousands of immigrants annually! YOU have a head start– TAKE IT!

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    • jeronadams
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 2:22pm

      you’re right enslaving blacks was always on the agenda during the civil rights movement. MLK was nothing more than a race traitor. Ending child labor was only laying the groundwork for an eventual america where people would have no rights and work for free…. DO you realize how stupid this sounds?

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on July 12, 2011 at 3:24am

      Yeah, I was thinking you sounded pretty STUPID jeronadams.

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    • UPSETVET
      Posted on July 12, 2011 at 7:43am

      For those of you who were offended by The Family Leader’s statement that in the black community “slaves were more likely to have both parents in the home than during this current administration” you need to face the truth of the actual statistics, as sad and painful as they are to everyone. During the same period of time (slavery) more white households had both parents in the home than they’re today.

      The truth is hard to face in the 21st century that divorce has taken it’s toll on all marriages and a LOT of children have only one parent in the home regarless of their race or ethnicity. It’s NOT a “racial problem” but a society problem. Big government is not the answer that will “fix the problem”. The ball is in the court of America’s homes and communities.

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  • PAPPY72
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:40pm

    This is sooooo silly. The statement in this pact wasn’t implying that slavery was good. It was trying to illustrate the horrifying destruction that has occurred to the African-American family due to the assault on the institution of marriage. The response of sane people is that we should be disturbed by how the assault on marriage has had a more destructive effect on the African-American family that even the evil institution of slavery had. The left needs to quit hyperventalating over every reference to slavery and quit demagoging everything. And we conservatives need to reject their insane ravings.

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    • Diamond Girl
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 2:35pm

      Right you are…and don’t forget the percentage of blacks who abort their babes in the womb either.

      Let’s remember whose all upset about this…the left wing msm for the most part, it was obvious what this meant if you take the time to read it all…I’ve seen where some think Bachmann made the speech herself that had to do with the portion in the Marriage Pact…drove me crazy, people don’t take the time to read and comprehend, they just follow like lemmings, it’s mind-bend stupidity.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 3:20pm

      When you own people, at least you get to say when they reproduce and with whom. And then its up to the master to ensure the offspring has a set of parent figures. So morality will be foolproof!

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on July 12, 2011 at 5:00am

      That’s right Pappy. Blacks are religious people, and at one time they weren’t violent people, but in the 20th century the left, the democraps, realizing they could no longer enslave or discriminate against them openly, decided that they could still be used as a vehicle to advance their leftist agenda. Thus the ‘Plantation’ idea was borne. They have manipulated blacks in this manner so that their nuclear family is shattered, causing high incidence of crime, out of wedlock babies, abortion, poverty, poor education, all kinds of maladies. They’ve been so successful in reordering the black pathos, that blacks who do want to assimilate, join the American community, by getting a good education, good employment and gaining prosperity, are attacked by the larger black community for daring to leave the ‘plantation’, daring to achieve. It’s truely a world turned upside down. This purposely created chaos provides democraps/leftists with an easier road to their cherished objectives. To wit: undermining the Constitution, gun control/confiscation, abortion/funded abortion, reverse discrimination, confiscatory taxation, expansion of government, furtherance of marxist ideology, many other things, not the lease of which is a perpetual voter base.

      Walter Williams, black Professor of economics, said one time in a roundtable on TV that if the KKK wanted to devise a program to hurt blacks, they couldn’t have come up with anything better than affirmative action and the war on po

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  • SimpleTruths
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:32pm

    @HAUSCHILD
    “Wait until Palin announces and these candy-asses go into a frenzy!”

    Do me a favor, hold your breath until she does.

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  • jedi.kep
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:26pm

    Nothing but knee jerk reactions from black people. No suprise here. Is the statistic true? Did slaves stay with their parents more than the modern day black family? If that is the case, then the obvious question is WHY CAN’T BLACK FAMILIES STAY MARRIED TO AVOID POVERTY???? Hello?

    Typical libs, Finding racism everywhere they look.

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on July 12, 2011 at 5:03am

      It’s all about playing the race card to keep blacks on the plantation.

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    • MONIFICENT
      Posted on July 12, 2011 at 8:57pm

      It’s called slavery for a reason um the slave could not leave unless their masters said so ! No one should ever say slavery was a good thing .

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  • geonj
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:19pm

    if there was a slave alive today from America’s past, i would say that i was sorry for them.but slavery, like other unsavory moments in the history of our great country, is in the past. let it die. no african american alive today is a slave. so shut up and get over it. you want revenge on white America, go out and make a success of your llife by working hard. i never owned a slave, i don’t want you to try to burden me with some guilt. i have none.

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  • The Toad
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:19pm

    My god every where I look it’s Bachmann here Bachmann there. I think the media is getting a little carried away with this woman for some reason. Bachmann is losing steam! Only getting 25% of the voters in Iowa while Romney is still getting 21%. I thought for sure with all the media behind her and Iowa being a bible thumping state she would be well ahead in Iowa. I guess the more the people learn and hear about this woman the more they are turned off. Especially the military veterans after she proposed to cut their benefits in january!

     
  • banjarmon
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:18pm

    Slavery is NOT the issue…The issue is the conditions of family life today and WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT!!!!.
    BACHMANN ROCKS!!! The WHITE HOUSE 20121!

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 3:17pm

      Who cares what she signs – it does not matter in the long run. She needs support so she is signing some pledges! Grow up!

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  • AB5r
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:17pm

    FACT: Liberal politics and government programs have destroyed the black family. Slavery is only related to the problem in the sense that blacks and liberals attempt to claim that the need for liberal government programs for blacks is because of slavery. But any person of normal intelligence examining the data has to be alarmed and saddened to see what has been done to blacks. They are made to believe they have no hope except some handout from the goobermint. Blacks were doing much better, after slavery but before the liberal government programs of the 60s on. Their problem isn’t really economic slavery today, it is political slavery, to modern liberal Democratic policies and politicians. The increasing problem of black crime is due in large part to children being raised in single parent families, so the issue affects all of us, not just blacks, but also the victims of their crimes including the increasingly horrible mob attacks on innocent whites.

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    • jeronadams
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 3:12pm

      Just shows that you value whites over other races… So black criminals only commit crimes against innocent whites? I’m just wondering so when they commit crimes against blacks, browns, or reds, those people are not innocent?

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    • One Man One Voice
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 3:50pm

      Can‘t everyone see that it’s part of the radical, progressive, liberals agenda to create division and dissent amongst the population? They’ve been, vehemently, playing the race card since Obama was elected. Fact: Obama proved he‘s a racist when he said and I’m paraphrasing, “My white grandmother was a typical prejudiced white person”. Other than that statement you never hear him discuss or mention his white heritage. It‘s obvious that he’s embarrassed and ashamed of his being part white. Ever notice how the liberal media deliberately and consciously never mentions his white heritage either. I take particular umbrage when I hear white people, especially cowardly, capitulating, white liberal media talking heads or celebrities disrespecting their own race by putting them down every chance they can get.

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    • AB5r
      Posted on July 12, 2011 at 7:47am

      Jeron, I was really referring to the more recent phenomena of flash mobs. Sure, generally, black criminals, like criminals of all races, attack people innocent and non-innocent of all races, but due to political correctness and the refusal of people to talk frankly about race, in particular the black race (as this story itself indicates), news reports of the flash mobs and other recent news stories meticulously avoid even mentioning the race of the attackers or their victims. But with bloggers now, they will investigate the stories further, using names (many black Americans have very unique names that give away their race, such as Shaniqua or that sort of thing) or sometimes pictures which reveal the race of those involved. And then as the story is analyzed it becomes clear that in many instances it is blacks specifically attacking whites, and I said innocent whites because these are labeled so-called “random” attacks, that is, the victims had nothing to do with the criminals except that they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. The other aspect of this phenomena is that very often the black mobs when they attack will kick at the head of the victims, a peculiarly unique and violent aspect that often leaves the victims with permanent injuries if they are not killed.

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on July 12, 2011 at 5:43pm

      AB5R:

      “so the issue affects all of us, not just blacks, but also the victims of their crimes including the increasingly horrible mob attacks on innocent whites.”

      JERONADAMS, I‘m guessing your strong suit isn’t english comprehension. Read that sentence again..slowly, does the word ‘including’ have a meaning in the sentence? Black crime drives our crime rate today, it’s mostly black on black crime. Crime is crime.

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  • SnowKalBebes
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:13pm

    Don’t forget that Michelle the “constitutional scholar” also wants to ban porn. She is a JOKE!

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 2:10pm

      Porn is not a constitutional right. A few morons on the Supreme Court saying it is doesn’t make it so. For over 150 years no one thought it was. QED.

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    • TulsaYeeHaw
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:28pm

      Porn is free expression whether you like it or not. I’ll watch porn if I damn well please, YOU DON’T GET TO DECIDE. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

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  • Islesfordian
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:10pm

    She should be ashamed for being insensitive of people with chips on their shoulder.

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  • TH30PH1LUS
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:06pm

    Another version of SLAVERY still at work today = DEBT. You are a slave to whoever you owe money to. Take a look at the Nat’l Debt Clock – do you think you are truly free?

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  • rienheart
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:00pm

    Slavery is Alive and doing well all over the world including America. The Welfare State IS Slavery. Taxation is BONDAGE to the Government.
    END WELFARE. END SLAVERY

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  • Conservative Hippy
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:58pm

    Alot of people chose to be in a single parent household because… THE GOVERNMENT PAYS THEM TO DO SO!… They are working the system to get extra benefits… its basically another example of Quinn’s first law… Liberal policies always bring about the exact opposite of there intended results… They created a program intended to help poor kids and end up hurting them even more by keeping their family seperated…

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  • TH30PH1LUS
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:57pm

    Folks, SLAVERY is still a huge GLOBAL business. We just have a pretty new name for it: Human traffiking”.

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    • jeronadams
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 2:07pm

      Most hard right conservatives I have talked believe that is also a non-issue: “…and the Wolf chewed up the children and spit out their bones…But those were Foreign Children and it really didn’t matter.”

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    • TulsaYeeHaw
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:31pm

      Hey Jeron, modern day slavery is occuring in non-white regions such as africa and southeast asia. Or in muslim countries. Chew on that.

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  • The Toad
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:55pm

    Bachmann is losing steam! Only getting 25% of the voters in Iowa while Romney is still getting 21%. I thought for sure with the media behind her and Iowa being a bible thumping state she would be well ahead in Iowa. I guess the more the people learn and hear about this woman the more they are turned off. Especially the military veterans and families after she proposed to cut their benefits in January!

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    • PrfctlyFrank
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:25pm

      Problem is TOAD that military families know Michelle did no such thing.. That is pure spin on budget talks and is transparent as glass, and an outright lie.. They also know what the lib/progs are lying about regarding the doings in the World and at home..

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  • psst
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:49pm

    Slavery?-Slavery-Slavery?-Slavery.?
    This is 2011.
    All this sheet just serves the purpose of keeping people at each others throats.
    The country is in debt that probably can’t be paid off for another 100 yrs, if ever.
    The marxist party (aka dems) wants more debt.
    At the rate we are going, no one will have a job.
    The Zimbabwian currency which at present, if you have a nearly worthless ameriKan $ you’d be considered a Zimbabwian millionaire will be worht more than the ameriKan $ in the not too distant future, and we’re babbling about Slavery?
    Slaves were sold to whites by their African bretherens.Most Black Americans should be thankful at this time their forebears came here as slaves. otherwise, most of them would be starving in Africa right now.
    To this present time, there are still slaves in many Araab/Moslem countries.
    Many black and white ameriKans are slaves on government plantations right now. They are so stupid, they don’t know it.
    This ain’t the 1860. The country is going down the tubes and we are talking about Slavery?
    In 2525 when whites are 5% of the US population (if US are still a country) we are still gonna be talking about slavery.
    Move On was started when biLLIE was caught in a phsuckee thingy.The marxist party said “Lets Move On. Seems US don’t want to Mve On about this slavery thingy.Too many are making $$ keeping it alive.

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    • jeronadams
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 2:19pm

      you do realize that comparing the country to 2525 is like comparing Spains modern day naval policies to that of Christopher Columbus.

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    • TulsaYeeHaw
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:38pm

      Out of all that, all you got was a comparison of naval tactics from 500 years ago to now.

      BLACK AFRICANS STILL ENSLAVE BLACK AFRICANS.

      Now, if you want to work for master progressive, who HATES YOU, but thinks you are stupid enough to blame the “right” for things 150 years in the past, go ahead.

      I’ll take my freedom, and if you are so stupid that you think it is only about race, then good for you.
      I will stay free, you can do whatever. Because I believe you are free to do as you wish, and don‘t want to use gov’t to control you. The people you defend set up planned parenthood to eliminate black people. Think about that. They instituted jimc crow, RE-segregated the army after REPUBLICANS integrated the army, they tell blacks they are incapable of succeeding on their own, and on and on.

      But you can be believe what you want, because I believe in YOUR freedom.

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  • gramma b
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:46pm

    The statement made by Bachmann’s spokesman is also based in truth. Obama is attempting to put the productive class in permanent bondage to the parasitic class. Increasing amounts of the fruits of our labor are being confiscated to support the unproductive. That is wrong, and it is bondage. Not as bad as slavery, of course, but when the government believes it has first claim on everything you earn, that is bondage.

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  • poorrichardsnews
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:45pm

    Here’s a suggestion: how about instead of focusing on this non story, you cover the real news that Bachmann has overtaken Romney in Iowa polling: http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/7496592981/michele-bachmann-overtakes-romney-in-iowa

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    • PrfctlyFrank
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:20pm

      Hear hear.. Why is it I found out in this article that Bachman was ahead of Romney, by 3 points?? Beginning to wonder Blaze…

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  • Glytch
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:43pm

    Honestly? People will spin and morons will listen. She was clearly stating that times have changed, that family values aren’t what they use to be. Look at the culture we live in today. There are very few morals being taught, music teaches that women are nothing but trash (rap mostly….). People call themselves Christians and then go out to the bar, have sex with random people, do drugs, and use a questionable vocabulary to show their cultures colorful side.

    The populations intelligence level isn’t decreasing because of only bad teachers or evil politicians, but because of lack of God, family, discipline and self respect. Our very culture is dying around us because of a lack in these things. Our government is doing all it can to kill God and family to replace them with itself and because of peoples lack of discipline and self respect they are letting them.

    Ignorance is fine so long as you do not wallow in it. Learn and grow, don’t be sheep.

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    • jeronadams
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 2:03pm

      Yeah I agree the country is way more moral today unlike those christian days when we had slaves, segregation, killed and stole Indians land, had child labor, had our presidents sleeping with their property, or when we were putting Japanese in concentration camps. (I know that our camps were not nearly as evil as the Germans this was not an anti-jewish comment)

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 3:27pm

      It’s very tempting to jump on people for saying things that are not factually possible to verify, when we should be worrying about turning the country around, and not focusing on just a bunch of facts. These harmless fake issues – like hypothetically beneficial slavery — are just meant to motivate people to act in the correct way, just as Christ would use a parable to get a point across.

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  • hauschild
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:41pm

    Another meaningless media witch hunt.

    Anybody with any sense realizes that liberals are far more racist than conservatives, so this schtick is quite old now.

    Wait until Palin announces and these candy-asses go into a frenzy!

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  • KickinBack
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:39pm

    Progressive socialism = Modern day slavery.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:12pm

      Tea Party = Modern Day Nazism

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    • kunman
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:39pm

      History check… Nazism was socialism

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 2:10pm

      Slave Owners = Job Creators

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    • Firebrand
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 4:07pm

      @simpletruths (and everyone else in this post)
      Can you do a comparison/contrast of the X=Y that you’ve stated? How are they exactly the same?

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  • gramma b
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:38pm

    Read the statement. Overall, it is a pledge in support of the family. The statement which caused all the trouble first acknowledges that the impact of slavery on families was horrible. It only states that, even under that horrible system, a black child was more likely to be raised by two parents than is a black child today. If that is true, it is a terrible fact, and one which illustrates the need to restore the black family. The statement is by no means a trivialization of slavery. People can’t read for meaning anymore. It is like the big hullaballoo over the person in Washington DC who used the word “niggardly,” which has nothing to do with race, which has Scandinavian roots, and which predates the racial slur, and is not spelled like it. Nevertheless, people got all up in arms over it.

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    • hightide
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:53pm

      I totally agree. The point is that slavery was bad, but at least the family unit was important. Not so now. Look at the gangs and abortion and divorce and see where it falls. You would think that blacks would want to change those statistics and not get hung up on the fact that there were slaves here 150 years ago.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:55pm

      We would be better off if there were still slaves. (Therefore)

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    • jeronadams
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:59pm

      That statement is so far off of the point its not even funny. First of all during the slave years unless a man or women was sold, then of course the child would have two parents. What would they do just leave the plantation for different women? Also after slavery the black community wasnt given equal rights til the sixties. Even after the civil rights movement black people were discriminated against so a majority of their race wass kept in poverty. Poverty leads to crime (regardless of the individuals race). A community with lots of crime will tend to have low education scores and graduation rates this makes it hard for the community to advance economically or socially. Also if children are born into lives of crime they will more than likely emulate their rolemodels which will lead to the alarming single mother family percentage found in the black community. A simple piece of paper wont change this, social programs will.

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    • jocko
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 4:32pm

      We have to remember that the democrats were the ones that fought hardest against civil rights. And, democrats were the majority of southerners up through the 70s.

      Lyndon Johnson, a southern democrat, pushed through the welfare states has continued to enslave the black, the minorities and the poor. And, I believe, it has also contributed heavily to the destruction of the black family.

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  • MONICNE
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:38pm

    Why bother to read anything – as long as you get votes, who cares what you say or do to get endorsements?

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    • scuba13
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:17pm

      And Obama got the endorsment from the Mexican drug cartels for all the guns Holder sold them.

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    • CatB
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:25pm

      Fast and FuriousGATE …. Obama’s job expansion plan for Mexican Undertakers!

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  • NickDeringer
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:36pm

    I know. Let’s take an anonymous national poll to see how many people actually want to bring back slavery?? Let’s see how many people actually want to bring back Jim Crow laws??

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    • VRW Conspirator
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:20pm

      sure thing Nick..

      the first question should be – When did slavery end?

      if they can’t answer that one correctly…the rest of their answers don’t count because they are uneducated….and as the article suggests…should educate themselves before opening their mouths…

      for those that are wondering…
      depending on perspective….the Emancipation Proclamation did not end slavery…onto those in the South were freed IF they would rise up and join the North…
      …the end of the Civil War – the War of Southern Independence also did not END slavery…
      the 13th Amendment ended slavery and that was applied and accepted in 1865 but actually not FULLY ratified by 2/3rd of all the States in existence in 1865 until 1995 when Mississippi FINALLY ratified the Amendment

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    • jeronadams
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 2:29pm

      Other then the under educated, science fearing, bible humping, backwards and lazy southland, I would say 99.9% of the remaining population would be against slavery and jim crowe.

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    • Firebrand
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 3:43pm

      @jeron
      You wouldn’t be grouping people together and using pejoratives based on an uneducated and ignorant opinion would you?

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    • looseyloo
      Posted on July 12, 2011 at 1:28am

      VRW Conspirator or whatever:

      Aren’t you just the real smarty pants ? You want to give us all a history lesson, pretending to be much more educated than the rest of us.

      One little problem, though– you don’t know your history. Mississippi was simply the last of the Confederate states to ratify the amendment, and it didn’t matter whether they ratified it or not because it was ratified by enough states in 1865.

      You must be getting your history from liberals, who just make it up.

      Spare us from your next lesson.

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  • gramma b
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:18pm

    Has anybody asked whether the statement about children in slavery was true? That should matter.

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    • Firebrand
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:21pm

      Agreed.

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    • ReddenBlack
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:26pm

      You can’t be serious, you need to have an inquiriy as to wether or not children were sold into forced and labor and seperated from their families by force had a worse life than a child growing up today with a single mother? Get out of my country you disgusting pig.

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    • Moonbat
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:34pm

      @ Gramma and Firebrand

      What? Do you understand what’s being said here? You know, you could also say that slaves had 0% percent unemployment. Would that also mean that slavery is preferable to the Obama Administration?

      Slavery is an evil, brutal institution. Period. I can‘t believe we’re even having this conversation.

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:37pm

      We are so screwed! Hopefully, this will put an end to her presidental campaign. Not only is she unqualified to be President, there is also NO way in the world she could beat Obongo in a general election. As a matter of fact, NONE of the Repuke candidates right now can beat Obongo in a general election.

      We are @#$#ed

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    • gramma b
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:42pm

      PS. Reddenblack. Read Ann Coulter’s last article about single motherhood. It is largely responsible for the bands of feral youth that are causing so much trouble in the cities. She quoted statistics showing that, when you eliminate the factor of single motherhood, statistics for black and white crime are the same.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:44pm

      Ron Paul is right get the Govt out of our lives
      America is big enough for us all to choose our own life styles

      these NeoCon Nazi’s are very Scary
      I think Bachmann will also try to ban all Porn and not care about our free speech rights.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:50pm

      @Big Pickle
      What’s this “we” crap? Speak for yourself.

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    • Firebrand
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:51pm

      First of all, I never I said I agreed with what was being said. Second, the statement was whether or not children of slaves had a higher propensity to be raised by both a mother and father versus african-american children today. Is that true? I don’t know. Therefore I agree with Gramma that someone should look it up and find out if the statement is true. I would like to know. I do my best to be clear and civil, but a myopic view of the world and obtuse ability to think about what is being said before a reply has led to a gross mischaracterization of what my point was. I will apologize that I didn’t expand and give a more detailed answer. Can we also agree that you may have jumped to conclusions a little early?

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    • bullcrapbuster
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 12:55pm

      Soon will time for Sarah to take over drive the loons over the edge.

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    • Independent-Conservative
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:21pm

      Grow up children. Many of you are acting like the lefties…Stop harping on NS like this and look at actual credentials and ability to bring real change to this joke we have for a government. I would have signed this too, with or without the statement comparing how black kids were raised during slavery and our current times. It may be rough language for some of you little pansies out there who can’t take the truth very well, but too bad sometimes the truth hurts. If this statement is true, which I don’t see being reported on, then it is very telling now isn’t it? But hey, let’s spend hours debating how horrible slavery was (everyone agrees it was) and how bad words hurt our precious little feelings. None of you posting about it have experienced (you, yourself) the slavery being referenced so why don’t you drop the garbage and hate campaign you have for a strong, conservative woman.

      You would think people would have learned this playbook already from Palin, but sadly sheep are still sheep.

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    • sWampy
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:32pm

      Slaves were worth as much or more than the homes many of the slave owners lived in. You have to ask yourself just how bad someone treats a piece of property worth more than your home? I have tons of friends with million dollar pieces of equipment that they store in barns that cost hundreds of thousands to build that live in homes valued at less than 75K. If they are sick and their tractor is broke, they fix their tractor before they go to the doctor. Sure it wasn’t great to be a slave, but the slaves were treated far better than the Irish sharecroppers that were assigned to do tasks deemed to dangerous for a slave to do.

      One thing for certain, the slave owners cared a lot more about the health and well being of the slaves that generated 100% of their income, than some government bureaucrat who only cares about the poor as long as it gets them a bonus/raise.

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    • roguetea
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 2:19pm

      rogue, Truth Evades Ambushers
      “Has anybody asked whether the statement about children in slavery was true? That should matter.”

      Yes, yes, yes, true perspective ought to matter, if that is what you seek. But if you seek votes, you must own the folk and be the sole framer for their discussions. How dare conservatives draw any comparison across any portion of black history (sarcasm)? This is just one more angle of race card play. This type of comparison might trigger introspection amongst black Dems inviting rebellion. The Dems could loose folk (votes), if this type of truth fueled open debate (more sarcasm). Twist and turn words and truth is their only option or.they will twist and burn in the winds of political has-beens. They shout, “Keep off our turf, stay out or our heads, do not clutter our mess whit honest considerations.” Nobody declared CHANGE had to be change for the better. That we would call improvement, and truly, truth would have to get weighed in truly open debate.
      tea party, Own 2011, ROGUE ON

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 3:16pm

      Only the super rich could afford slaves anyway, so it makes sense to sign whatever papers there are, it will never affect the middle class (unless the Neo-Slavery industry requires contractors – like private prison guards, etc.)

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