Did You Know Jerusalem Had an Underground City? See for Yourself
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Jonathon M. Seidl
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In this May 17, 2011 photo, a view of Zedekiah's Cave is seen in Jerusalem's Old City. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue)
JERUSALEM (AP) — Underneath the crowded alleys and holy sites of old Jerusalem, hundreds of people are snaking at any given moment through tunnels, vaulted medieval chambers and Roman sewers in a rapidly expanding subterranean city invisible from the streets above.
At street level, the walled Old City is an energetic and fractious enclave with a physical landscape that is predominantly Islamic and a population that is mainly Arab.
In this May 17, 2011 photo, ultra-orthodox Jewish men pray in the Western Wall tunnel in Jerusalem's Old City. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue)
Underground Jerusalem is different: Here the noise recedes, the fierce Middle Eastern sun disappears, and light comes from fluorescent bulbs. There is a smell of earth and mildew, and the geography recalls a Jewish city that existed 2,000 years ago.
Editor’s note: This video shows a tunnel discovery made in 2007.
Archaeological digs under the disputed Old City are a matter of immense sensitivity. For Israel, the tunnels are proof of the depth of Jewish roots here, and this has made the tunnels one of Jerusalem’s main tourist draws: The number of visitors, mostly Jews and Christians, has risen dramatically in recent years to more than a million visitors in 2010.
But many Palestinians, who reject Israel’s sovereignty in the city, see them as a threat to their own claims to Jerusalem. And some critics say they put an exaggerated focus on Jewish history.
In this May 17, 2011 picture, visitors walk through Zedekiah's Cave in Jerusalem's Old City. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue)
A new underground link is opening within two months, and when it does, there will be more than a mile (two kilometers) of pathways beneath the city. Officials say at least one other major project is in the works. Soon, anyone so inclined will be able to spend much of their time in Jerusalem without seeing the sky.
On a recent morning, a man carrying surveying equipment walked across a two-millennia-old stone road, paused at the edge of a hole and disappeared underground.
In a multilevel maze of rooms and corridors beneath the Muslim Quarter, workers cleared rubble and installed steel safety braces to shore up crumbling 700-year-old Mamluk-era arches.
Above ground, a group of French tourists emerged from a dark passage they had entered an hour earlier in the Jewish Quarter and found themselves among Arab shops on the Via Dolorosa, the traditional route Jesus took to his crucifixion.
In this May 17, 2011 photo, a visitor is silhouetted in Zedekiah's Cave in Jerusalem's Old City. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue)
South of the Old City, visitors to Jerusalem can enter a tunnel chipped from the bedrock by a Judean king 2,500 years ago and walk through knee-deep water under the Arab neighborhood of Silwan. Beginning this summer, a new passage will be open nearby: a sewer Jewish rebels are thought to have used to flee the Roman legions who destroyed the Jerusalem temple in 70 A.D.
The sewer leads uphill, passing beneath the Old City walls before expelling visitors into sunlight next to the rectangular enclosure where the temple once stood, now home to the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the gold-capped Dome of the Rock.
From there, it’s a short walk to a third passage, the Western Wall tunnel, which continues north from the Jewish holy site past stones cut by masons working for King Herod and an ancient water system. Visitors emerge near the entrance to an ancient quarry called Zedekiah’s Cave that descends under the Muslim Quarter.
In this May 17, 2011 photo, a visitor walks through the Western Wall tunnel in Jerusalem's Old City. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue)
The next major project, according to the Israel Antiquities Authority, will follow the course of one of the city’s main Roman-era streets underneath the prayer plaza at the Western Wall. This route, scheduled for completion in three years, will link up with the Western Wall tunnel.
The excavations and flood of visitors exist against a backdrop of acute distrust between Israeli Jews and Palestinian Muslims, who are suspicious of any government moves in the Old City and particularly around the Al-Aqsa compound, Islam’s third-holiest shrine. Jews know the compound as the Temple Mount, site of two destroyed temples and the center of the Jewish faith for three millennia.
Muslim fears have led to violence in the past: The 1996 opening of a new exit to the Western Wall tunnel sparked rumors among Palestinians that Israel meant to damage the mosques, and dozens were killed in the ensuing riots. In recent years, however, work has gone ahead without incident.
Mindful that the compound has the potential to trigger devastating conflict, Israel’s policy is to allow no excavations there. Digging under Temple Mount, the Israeli historian Gershom Gorenberg has written, “would be like trying to figure out how a hand grenade works by pulling the pin and peering inside.”
In this May 17, 2011 photo, a visitor holding a flashlight walks through the Hezekiah's tunnel in Jerusalem. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue)
Despite the Israeli assurances, however, rumors persist that the excavations are undermining the physical stability of the Islamic holy sites.
“I believe the Israelis are tunneling under the mosques,” said Najeh Bkerat, an official of the Waqf, the Muslim religious body that runs the compound under Israel’s overall security control.
Samir Abu Leil, another Waqf official, said he had heard hammering that very morning underneath the Waqf’s offices, in a Mamluk-era building that sits just outside the holy compound and directly over the route of the Western Wall tunnel, and had filed a complaint with police.
The closest thing to an excavation on the mount, Israeli archaeologists point out, was done by the Waqf itself: In the 1990s, the Waqf opened a new entrance to a subterranean prayer space and dumped truckloads of rubble outside the Old City, drawing outrage from scholars who said priceless artifacts were being destroyed.
This month, an Israeli government watchdog released a report saying Waqf construction work in the compound in recent years had been done without supervision and had damaged antiquities. The issue is deemed so sensitive that the details of the report were kept classified.
Some Israeli critics of the tunnels point to what they call an exaggerated emphasis on a Jewish narrative.
“The tunnels all say: We were here 2,000 years ago, and now we’re back, and here’s proof,” said Yonathan Mizrachi, an Israeli archaeologist. “Living here means recognizing that other stories exist alongside ours.”
Yuval Baruch, the Antiquities Authority archaeologist in charge of Jerusalem, said his diggers are careful to preserve worthy finds from all of the city’s historical periods. “This city is of interest to at least half the people on Earth, and we will continue uncovering the past in the most professional way we can,” he said.
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Comments (103)
@ Coyote2
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 5:23pmWHY?? It would belong to all mankind, not a bunch of greedy jew parasites that would want to exploit it for profit!!
Report Post »hopemakes3
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 9:04pmGo back to the rock you crawled out from under. Spread your hate somewhere else. I’m not Jewish and even I am disgusted as everyone else on this forum probably is as well. So wonderful that we live in a country that actually allows you to spew this nasty sh*t. Go back to Nazi Germany… Oh thats right, I’m sorry being an Anti-Semite is no longer fashionable. If your Muslim, this isn’t the site for you spread your nonsense either. Try CAIR.com. You repulse me. What the H*ll would you know about God. I’m guessing, not much by the hate you are trying to instill on this site.
Report Post »__JDFLA__
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 4:32pmGod Bless Israel!
Report Post »I am not surprized the Radical towel heads want to destroy Israel.
If they dig even more they may find things that help prove their right to exsist on the planet.
I mean if they escavated the area they will find build and destruction of the jews many times over and they come back and build again. I cant stand the desacration of the land of the jewish peoples. By who??? you know the answer
I think they know that something is there that will disprove Islam as a faith. How bad would that be for the people who follow the false prophet mohamed. I dont care if you want to follow whom ever you want to follow but dont expect everyone to follow and if they dont you have the prophetical right to kill them. I am so over thew fake teaching of the one who says its ok to kill in the name of a false God. Why isnt the moderate muslims saying anything????
because there arent any. Dont believe it if they say they dont believe this kind of teachings. THEY DO.
and
they subscribe to it in their hearts. If they didnt they would speak out and they would try to stop it. But they dont because it is their faith to believe this kind of crap. yes crap
How in the name of the real one true GOD could anyone say that they believe in this kind of crap.
I dont aprrove of any faith that can kill in the name of that faith.
I dribble sorry!
shirtsbyeric
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 4:27pmKinda takes the wind out of Obama’s whole “Right of Return” spiel.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 8:59pmThe Arab squatters have the right to return to their Arab shiite holes!
Report Post »LovinUSA
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 4:25pmHow wonderously wonderful! But I would not show it in public, gives your enemy more to fight you for, Jerusalem must be saved, it is GODs land . God is allowing this for a reason, it will be used well, in the future, believe me.
Report Post »Cold War Vet
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 4:03pmThis is really cool! I knew about the medieval Knights Templar digging under the old temple, but had no idea of the extent of the Jewish network of underground rooms and passages. To me, it further cements the fact that this land is and has always been the land of Israel or Judea, the land of the Jews.
Obviously, the Palestinians and other Islamics are complaining about it, or feel threatened by it. Even though they have much more land than Israel, they’ll never accept the idea of allowing Israel to exist peacefully in their tiny sliver of land, about the size of New Jersey. They should be thankful that Israel is nice enough to allow the holy sites of 3 major religions to be accessed by those who desire it without being challenged. Do you think the Palestinians or other arabs would be so generous if they held that territory?
Once again, the Jews have reiterated their righteous and fully legal claim to the land that is the sovereign nation of Israel. Both on the ground and below it.
Report Post »mikester8888
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 3:56pmAs an observer its of my belief that since the Muslem Brotherhood released the idea that they wish every Jew and all of its land to be wiped from the face of the earth, ill put a feeler out there that something is crawling up their crawl space. Its just a guess.
Report Post »Dominance over wemon, hatefull reactions, my way or the highway. Kinda sounds like the clan in the 50′s. What does it take to get these people to hang onto reality. Religions are suppose to help people cope with life, this one seems to be one i wouldnt even consider. Unless of course i wanted to rob a convenient store, then maybe……..
TEARS FOR AMERICA
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 3:45pmOn the site for the Council Foreign Relations it was interesting that George Soros and his bunch are on the list as well- there are many surprises as to who is there-many of the Jewish faith and then an officer for the Baptist faith (Richard Land)…the New World Order rising…get ready true Believers for the “overcoming”.
http://www.cfr.org/about/membership/roster.html
Report Post »NYSTREETKID
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 2:28pmhere is a idea.The book of Daniel,(old testament) and the book of revelations(new testament) both state the the temple has to be rebuilt on the temple mount. What if it is but in that it is underthe new city,in the old city. It would been then built right on the original bed rock.It was alway a hung up to this been done with the muslim site there now. This could be a way around this.
Report Post »dizzyinthedark
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 1:51pmI believe there is something very important known that the muslims want to unjustly keep for themselves. This must hold alot of power otherwise they would not fight tooth and nail to keep what is not theirs. The campaign of propaganda still carries on as the muslims lay claim to this as their property, as do the Jewish in Israel, its ‘rightful’ place as history will show.
In America I find it revealing for generations now the wheels of propaganda have been spinning to chip away at American exceptionalism–faith in God, belief in our country, in our self as a good people. I believe this was ordained to get us out of the way, the last power that would ‘stand’ with Israel. Once we were out of the way, it would be quite easy to take over Israel, take over what is under that temple mount.
We must not let them get away with this. We must do this for God. God has put us in charge also. We are a power to be reckoned with. We are the one nation, outside of Israel, that is so hated! Why? Because there is something so right about us/Israel! We must never let them do this. Remember, they cannot take what has not been given and I have not given my country to ‘them’! How about you?!
Report Post »APatriotFirst
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 1:47pmAt times it is found that cities are built on TOP of the old original city which will tell the true history.
I personally think it is time for Israel to do a little cleaning out around their homeland.
Report Post »Every country at one time or another has claimed and taken what is rightfully theirs. And taken what they want or need. Israel is too political sensitive but they need to tell the world that they have had enough. For whatever reason that people think Jews must continue to be prosecuted………[what woes their crime?] Israel needs to stop their world and tell the rest to get the hell off.
GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 8:55pmTheir “CRIME” was their rejection of JESUS CHRIST as the SON of GOD. Not to mention that they MURDERED him to further their own agenda. ALL JEWS are DAMNED ETERNALLY, UNLESS and UNTIL they ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST as the SON of GOD and their ONLY CHANCE at SALVATION. They will continue to be “persecuted”(not prosecuted) until they yield to the will of GOD. Who owns the real estate won’t change that fact in the least part.
Report Post »bestartist
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 1:23pmInteresting the Koran mentions Jerusalem ZERO times.
Report Post »hmmmmmmmmm……………..
RepubliCorp
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:42pmI was digging in my back yard and found a old septic tank…….. time to post it on you tube
Report Post »I can feel & smell the history…..
NYSTREETKID
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 2:34pmstrange remark. says much more then you think it does. it tell alot about you.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 5:34pmThey discovered a old sewer…. fascinating
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 8:36pmYou must be related to JUMBLES? Or you must be about the same age….
Report Post »cashprize
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:36pmZECHARIAH CHAPTER 14
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Report Post »1 ¶ Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 ¶ And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go o
BOMUSTGO
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 8:15pmRight on!! Back in the 70′s, a team of geologist went to the Mount of Olives to survey it for a major Hotel chain..The surveyors came back with the bad news that they could not build there as there was a major fault line running East to West and that a major earthquake would split the mount in two!
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:28pmSecrets of the past revealed.
Report Post »bryan69
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:23pmHow long until the tunnels become yet another target to be used against Israel? Only those schooled under hate can deny the Jewish claim.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:05pmThis is why the Muslims want it so bad. So they can destroy the Hebrew culture that is there. If they can destroy this, site then they will have only their version to live by. So Israel is right not to split up Jerusalem. I have been studying it for a long time. Seen a story on it a few years back on PBS. There is a lot more to the city that has not been publicized yet.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:54amThere should be no doubt that Jerusalem belongs to Israel NOT THE ARABS.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:13pmWe are living in Biblical times now! More proof that Bible prophecy is true…The children of Ismael and Esau continue to be at war with the seed of Abraham. It ALL pivots around Israel and the city of Jerusalem.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:49pmI will always stand with Israel. God bless them and America.
Report Post »Bearfoot
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 4:37pmMarylou7 – “There should be no doubt that Jerusalem belongs to Israel NOT THE ARABS.”
Actually the last time Jerusalem was fully owned by Israel was just before ancient Babylon destroyed that city in 607 B.C. Since then Jerusalem was under the control of various foreign nations until finally, Rome completely and fully ended the nation of Israel in the year 70 A.D., destroying the city and scattering the Jews to all quarters of the then known world.
Report Post »Now it is true they claim the land again, but in reality Israel is no longer a nation in God’s eyes, and as a result of rejecting God’s Son, Jesus, other people have occupied the land since 70 A.D. Matthew 23:36-39
AmericanWarrior
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:48amI’ve been in some of these tunnels… Amazing just doesn’t explain it. There is an archway that has been sealed by the muslims that runs along the west wall (just north of what is known by non-Jews as the “Wailing Wall”). It led under what was the original Temple of Solomon… a team of holy men, Christian & non-Chrisitan, & archeologists explored this tunnel… they found something that prompted them to back out & seal this tunnel with 20′ of cement & rebar..!.. No one is allowed to dig htere anymore. This city holds many secrets… some of which may very well define for the world the one true Christ…
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:04pmIt must be the lost Ark! To expose it, will cause much unrest by the heathen!…. Why do the heathen rage and imagine a vain thing??Psalms 2.
Report Post »AmericanWarrior
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:35pmMy thoughts exactly…
Report Post »Dudley Do-Right
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:50pmCould be…Leen Ritmeyer, who has conducted research on the Temple Mount and inside the Dome of the Rock claims to have found the spot on the Mount where the Holy of Holies was located during the First Temple period. In the precise center of that spot is a section of bedrock cut out in dimensions that may match those of the Ark as reported in Exodus. Based on his findings, Ritmeyer has postulated that the Ark may be buried deep inside the Temple Mount. However, it is unlikely that any excavation will ever be allowed on the Mount by the Muslim or Israeli authorities.
Report Post »Bearfoot
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 5:11pmThe last mention of the “Ark of the Covenant” is in 2 Chronicles 35:3 at about the year 642 B.C. This is before Babylon destroys the original Temple. There is no further biblical reference to it or information as to what happened to it.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 8:20pm2nd Maccabees 2:4-8 says that the prophet Jeremiah hid the Ark in a cave at Mt.Nebo..And it will revealed at the time of the end.Also the “tent of the meeting” (Bet Ha mikdosh), the badger skin mobile tabenacle that Moses had built was hidden there too.
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 10:05pmMaccabees, although interesting, is not part of the Bible canon. Therefore it is not a reliable source for accurate information.
Report Post »Thun
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 9:38amIn the Septuagint Version, Tobias, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, First and Second Machabees – and parts of Esther (10:14 to 16:14) and Daniel (3:24- 90; 13; 14), are placed among and given equal rank with the other Old Testament books.
Report Post »Hereigns7
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:48amIt is amazing that most every born again believer in Christ has a deep love for Israel. How can we as a country elect a president who does not demonstrate that same love and passion for the state of Israel causes me to take pause. And this same president who is standing behind the Arab spring which could have been put into their mind from his speech in Cairo. The speech were he openly denied the exclusiveness of Christianity. Back to Israel, I am excited about their new find!
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:44pm@hereigns7, I stand with Israel. I pray for Israel and America always.
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 8:03pmIsrael is a part of our roots. Quite a number of us have some Hebrew ancestral ties whether we acknowledge it or not. Our laws and most of our religion come from those ties. The biblical recounting of Moses and the journey the Jews made is factual. Whether you want to believe it or not is your choice. I believe it. The biblical recounting of Christ and his experiences in Israel are factual, whether you want to believe that or not. I believe it. My Jewish ancestral connection is real although I am a Christian. I believe Israel should exist and we should stand by it. If you deny Israel, you deny a part of our past. If you are of some other religion than Christian or Jew, more power to you just don’t try to force us to not believe in our own history. If you allow the Muslims to destroy Israel, you better start trading in your prius for a camel and start getting a callous on your forehead because your history is about to change. And oh by the way you can forget that cold beer and porn magazine.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:43amYes – and I wager they’ll be finding more and more archaelogical finds that also prove biblical accounts….but sadly, it’s the same old story. Those that are filled with hatred for Israel (and/or Bible), will continue to deny the facts, no matter what – very powerful evil forces have them all in “bondage”/blind. Like libs and their ilk, they’re somewhat mentally, emotionally, spiritually challenged – use irrational psychological gymnastics to justify their crazy notions. Oh well….I’ll celebrate all the discoveries anyway, hoping and praying it’ll help wake some up with the help of God.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:49amThe “Victor” gets to write the history books….They leave out the History they don’t want you to know about.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:27amI could give a damn about Mooselimb mosques in the area….The Jews were living in the area over two thousand years ago…and the “newcomers” claim the land using squatters rights as justification….They’re lucky that their temples are allowed to exist…..
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:40amWhat if they find the Ark of the Covenant in a hidded passageway?The Muslims would go nuts as this would prove once and for all that the land belongs to Israel.The Ark has been missing for well over 2000 years.It was never in Herods temple during the time of Christ.If the Ark could be revealed, the Jews would have to build their temple to propperly house it and place it in the Holy of Holies beyond the veil in the Temple. A Temple must be built sometime during the last seven years as Dan 9:27 declares that the anti -christ will cause the sacrifices to cease three and a half years after he signs a treaty with israel.The Priests have been trained and the temple furniture has been remade. The Ark is the only item that can’t be duplicated as it contains the Ten commandments,Aarons rod that budded,and a pot with manna in it.
Report Post »Nation under God
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:43amYep.
They need to “just say no”
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:05pmC. Schwehr …Absolutely without a shadow of a doubt you receive The Blaze genius of the day award….It is for the term “Mooselimb” …I mean this in the best way ……Hopefully the PC police don’t come around …And start in with their bull crap …..Thank you ….And the .Mooselimbs know that the Jews have been there and the property belongs to Israel…Those underground dugouts …Weren’t they used during the Roman occupation of Jerusalem by the early Christians escaping capture ? ..
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:18pm@BOMUSTGO
Report Post »The Arc is in heaven, the books of Hebrews and Revelations both reference it’s location. But it would have been a nice find never the less.
Personally I’d rather they found written on the walls in ancient Hebraic “kilroy was here”.
jumbles
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:20pmBOMUST GO……The ark was found by the Nazis during the war.Indiana Jones took a whip to those square heads and relieved them of it.It now lies in the archives in Washington,Apparently if you were to open it your face would melt.
Report Post »Luke21
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 2:46pm@betterdays,
I believe BO was speaking of the ark Moses was instructed to build – which Hebrews states was a copy of the ark in Heaven (which Rev 11:19 refers to), one not built w/ hands, not of this creation:
Hebrews 9:11 But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation.
Hebrews 9:23-24 Therefore it was necessary that the copies of the things in the heavens should be purified with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. (24) For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us;
As was stated earlier, the second temple (Herod’s) did not contain the ark. There is no indication in scripture that I’m aware of that the (third) temple will or must contain it either (though they could fashion a replica). That said, it is possible that the original could be “found” – which itself is a likeness of the true ark in Heaven. The “high priest” is also a likeness of the true High Priest who is also in Heaven – but the Jews don’t (yet) recognize Jesus (Yehoshua) as thier Messiah. So they will rebuild the temple such that Daniel 9:27 will come to pass.
Report Post »@ Coyote2
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 4:46pmYou must admit (if you can read) the lowly joos NEVER kept the covenants God gave them and rebuked Him instead. They have spit in His face ever since. They falsely try to claim Him as their God alone when He is in fact the only God of ALL CREATION and ALL mankind.The Muslims call Him Allah which is God in Arabic.
Report Post »Luke21
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 9:52pmAnd neither do you coyote2 – “keep the covenants (I suspect you mean commandments) of God”. No man has, no man can save the God-Man, the Messiah, Jesus. That is the point of the Cross. Christ fulfilled the law & became a propitiation (substitute) for the sin of the world. The Lamb w/out blemish.
Most of the covenants God made w/ “the joos” as you refer to them – the most significant – were unilateral and unconditional. I.e. there were no conditions placed on the Jews, that includes the Abrahamic covenant (the land grant) & the Davidic covenant (the Messianic). They (Israel) couldn’t vacate the covenants if they wanted to, and the God of the Bible cannot lie, nor will He deny Himself (so if He said it will come to pass, it will come to pass).
A side note: Abraham was not a Jew. Nor was Jacob (he was the first Israelite). Jews came from the line of Judah, the fourth of Jacob’s twelve sons.
As for islam worshiping the same God that Jews do, you need to do better homework than to listen to NPR. Allah was derived from al Ilah, the arabian “moon god”. Mohammed consolidated a polytheistic system into a monotheistic one. However he consolidated it around the arabian “moon god”, not the biblical God of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob (YHWH).
Report Post »JoeAmerica
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:21amI’m sure there are a ton of other things like this. The earth is a rather large place. There was a story the other day that they found new pyramids.. how you could overlook a pyramid is beyond me. Don’t forget the majority of this planet is under water. There’s a lot more to discover out there. Hope we don’t nuke the planet before discovering some of these things.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:29amThey have discovered new pyramids in South America.They have been hidden by all the vegetation from being in a rain forest. From a distance they appear to be small hills.That is how they are overlooked!
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:38amDon’t worry Joe, I’m sure Obama/ Sotero/Bounel is hard at work having Cass Sunshine come up with myriads of new and unnecessary regulations specific to the exploration industry. The EPA will stipulate that any and all exploration must leave Zero trace of it’s having taken place. The department of Geology will stipulate the scope of all exploration to the most minute detail. And the Department of education will insure that only Unbiased liberal whiz brains get to engage in any future explorations for educational integrity reasons. The department of the interior will bicker with the department of the anterior over wether the department of the posterior gets oversight of the undersites.
Report Post »Voting for Obama is a vote for the New World Order and the usury capitalists that control the MIC, gee another wasted vote, BRAVO!
JoeAmerica
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 1:10pm@BETTERDAYS – With as much creativity in your writing you should really consider attending, you know, one of those Libby colleges where they teach you to use your mind for wonderful and amazing things rather then simply using it to hate fellow mankind.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 1:24pm@Joe
Report Post »Lol, I h8 no one.
What’s the difference between acceptance and tolerance ?
Acceptance says “you have the right to be as screwed up as you desire to be.”
Tolerance says the same but with these words added “, but not on my front lawn”
America, Joe is my front lawn, I think your a bright kid, but I think you’ve wasted your vote on someone you know nothing about. That’s not only unwise but highly detrimental to yourself.
Here’s some homework Joe, if the have the courage to look into it.
www,CFR.org
find Michele Obama’s name, Chaneys, Clintons, both Bush’s, Geithner, Bernankie, Kissinger, Bidem, John Bolten, John Huntsman, Carl Rove, and the who’s who in American wealth and power.
Find BP, Boeing, GE, Chase, BOA, Chevron, Conoco Phillips, Monsanto, all the multinationals and the MIC.
Read what all these players stand for on the CFR Global Gocernance Page.
Then find out who is not out to enslave you (like Ron Paul) and vote for him. Other wise you only support those who mean you very seriousl ill, and that my friend is the description of clinical insanity.
Jesus loves you so I am able too Joe.
Bluebonnet
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 4:19pmJoeAmerica, Yes, there are lots of things yet discovered. Besides the Indian ruins in Mexico & Central & South America restored, my favorite was Borobudur, Indonesia on island of Java. This was magnificent stone work, built around 750AD and discovered in 1814 and restored in 1973+ 3 stories high and beautiful. It was covered by ash during eruption of Mt. Merapi and became a hillside. Many discoveries in America of Indian Mounds that contain many relics. I’m sure there are many ruins yet to be discovered. Some are being hidden from the public to protect them.
But, the slur against Texas I take exception to. I only lived there 3 years and want to get back some day. My coffee mug says, “If I lead a good life, Say my prayers & Go to church, When I die, I will go to Texas” so Mr. Joe, don’t mess with Texas. It’s a great state with much history & much pride and I love it there. I love the Texas pride they have in their state.
Report Post »JoeAmerica
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 6:25pm@BLUEBONNET
The remark about Texas, on another post was a joke Blue. These are tough times and humor helps. You didn’t really think I thought those Chinese officials were from Texas? Yes there is plenty to discover.. we are merely micro organisms on a fasanating planet. Under the Sea is where its at.
Report Post »@ Coyote2
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 8:59pm@JOEAMERICA??
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 1:10pm
Are you having trouble swallowing your pork chop?
Report Post »ecurbyy
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 9:21pmThere’s this plant called cudzu that grows so fast it could cover a city in a few days, so there‘s no telling what might be under foliage that’s been left alone for many centuries. I’m thinking maybe some of those places mentioned in the book of Mormon.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on May 31, 2011 at 5:29pmThanks, Joe America. I appreciate you.
Report Post »D0ntTread0nMe
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:21amVery cool!
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EddardinWinter
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:17amFascinating. Yet doomed to be another ill founded greivance against israel.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 3:13pmIt is amazing what the Jewish people know and do not tell the world!! There are many things being discovered in these days……..http://www.copper-scroll-project.com/
There is a Hebraic Roots television station, very supportive of Israel, who has lots of guest speakers from Israel, speakers who are doing excavations over there like Dr. Steven Collins, the Trinity Southwest University’s College of Archaeology & Biblical History (Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA) and the Department of Antiquities of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan on the excavation of Sodom/Gomorrah. http://tallelhammam.com/
They also have a “David Fund” which directly supports the Barak Armored Brigade (tank) division with articles of clothing, gloves, warm jackets, that Israel cannot afford to supply to the IDF soldiers. Many of the partners donate $20.00 to ????? to the David Fund each month for the soldiers.
The station in very good, but let me warn you, that when I first started watching it, it scared me to death to find out how little I understood my Bible!! http://glc.us.com/site/index.php
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:17amSometimes the past can suprise you indeed; given how old many cities of the middle east and of Europe are as well, there is a total mystery waiting around each corner or with each new dig even for a few minutes of time.
Report Post »nuttyvet
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:28amTotally agree… Our country is in its infancy when considering other developed parts of the world. To sit at a cafe on a 1000 year old street really drives the imagination!
Report Post »PatriotsLikeMe
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 11:35amAs a fan of history and Israel, I am excited to see this and applaud their efforts to uncover more of their history especially as it relates to their right of place.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:24pmGlen did a great show on the Temple Mount and it is NOT an important Islamic Holy Site. Islam put many mosques on top of Christian and Jewish sites as a statement of conquest. Christians and Jews most holy site is Jerusalem, Mecca is I-Slams.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:27pmGoes to show that alot of these tunnels are older than Islam itself.
Report Post »Disnylv
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:39pmI agree too bad that exvacation has to stop because of the US throwing Israel under the moving bus.
Report Post »AMERICA4EVER
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 12:53pmYes, we are an infant compared to the Middle East, but we have fought only one civil war, but civil wars and such have never stopped there. What can we draw from this? I think things are about to change here.
Report Post »Marengo Ohio Patriot
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 1:06pmJim Tressel has resigned as head coach at Ohio State, and this is the best the Blaze can report???
Report Post »Gee whiz people, wake up!!!!
GODSAMERICA
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 1:11pmYou are so correct patriotslikeme. Then we have stupidity like this coming out.
Report Post »“But many Palestinians, who reject Israel’s sovereignty in the city, see them as a threat to their own claims to Jerusalem”
So what they are saying is that the palestinian terrorists see this as a threat to their own claims because it PROVES that their claims aren’t worth cr*p and that it shows that they are only there to try and steal the land of Jerusalem and Israel from the Jewish people when they actually have exactly zero claim to any part of it. Yep, that would definitely upset them.
AKMIIKEUS
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 1:31pmHey, now the people on the Right who stand with Israel can come and visit and have a place to hide.
Report Post »Edct
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 2:00pmJust more proof that the Jews own the land and that the lying muslim infidel terrorists are liars and should be kicked out of the land because they are nothing but squatters….the Jews are God’s chosen people and anyone who rejects this is a fool.
Report Post »NYSTREETKID
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 2:12pmmost of the middle east from egypt to Tehran was ether jew or christian, with a small amount of nature worship to 632 A.D, Mohammad spead first from mecca to medina,( he had no power in the first he moved).where he personally cut the heads off 700-800 jews in the market place. Quran stats this very proudly. Remember faith of peace(to every who is a muslum,everyone else watch your head)
Report Post »indy1
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 7:03pmThe Musilms and libs hate to see that the Jews have the claim to Israel and Judea..
Report Post »restorehope
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 8:03pmOf course the Palestininans would want to downplay any Jewish activity thousands of years ago in the area. Israel has developed, upgraded, and vastly improved the region in the years following its official creation as a country.
Do you really think that the land would be so developed if the Palestinians had been given the same opportunity? I doubt it. It would still be an unarable land with cities that barely eke out an existence, instead of the rich farmland and vibrant, thriving cities that the Jewish people have created out of the desert.
Report Post »tradexpertbuysell
Posted on May 30, 2011 at 9:57pmLooks like the Jews have rightful claim to the Holly Land.
See ya!
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