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Discrimination? Christian Business Owner Offers Discounted Oil Change if Customers Recite John 3:16

Christian Business Owner Offers Discounted Oil Change if Customers Recite John 3:16Customers looking for an oil change in Plano, Texas, are being offered an interesting deal.

Charlie Whittington, who owns Kwik Kar, has issued a coupon that promises a $19.99 oil change if customers recite the famed New Testament Bible verse John 3:16. The scripture, which is central to Christian belief, reads:

“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” (NIV)

Whittington says he created the deal as an opportunity to share his beliefs with his customers. “I really believe if you talk more positive stuff you get more positive things out of it,” he says. “I want to inspire people to look where they can do more.”

Of course, he has faced mixed reaction. While people have called in from other states to praise his coupon, others wonder if he’s discriminating against nonbelievers. One man, Marshall Wei, says that he couldn’t remember the verse.

So, Wei looked it up online and headed to Kwik Kar. But he apparently started having second thoughts about the offer. Perhaps he didn‘t want to recite the scripture aloud or maybe he decided that the deal wasn’t fair to non-believers (we‘re not actually sure what Wei’s beliefs are). In the end, he decided not to recite the verse and ended up paying $46, instead of the $19.99 promised to those who honored the deal.

Wei wondered, “Why should I be compelled to quote something I do not feel comfortable to quote? I’m paying you. Why can’t you treat me like others?”

On the Friendly Atheist blog, Hemant Mehta writes:

Also, how come it’s always Christians who seem to do things like this? You never see an atheist business owner saying she’ll give you a discount if you say “God is a myth.”

Whittington, though, is defending the deal and standing by what he believes. At least one lawyer, Andy Siegel, who is based in Dallas, Texas, claims that he believes the coupon is legal. Still, he believes the conversation about faith could have been started in a different manner.  “The study of the Bible has many rewards,” he says. “I’m not sure that God intended a lube discount to be among its many riches.”

(H/T: CBSDFW.com)

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  • thegodfather
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:27am

    This is nothing new. Michael Moore has offered discounts on his movies if you can recite the Communist Manifesto when you call into his website.

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    • ColoradoBoots
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:12am

      Does anyone remember getting free fries from, “Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun.” Thanks McDonalds.

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    • ACLUHater
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:28am

      I don’t see a problem. If you don‘t like it don’t go.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:45am

      They never saisd you have to believe it just said you have to recite it.

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    • Miguelito
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:55am

      At this point we have freedom of choice in some things and this is one of them. If you do not like it choose not to be a consumer of this business, we make that choice everyday. I myself choose God!

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:57am

      So does my grocery store discriminate when I forget my coupon and the lady behind me has hers?

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:50am

      As a Christian I would like to tell this business owner that Jesus is not for sale or discount.

      Shame on him.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:32am

      “They never said you have to believe it just said you have to recite it.”

      There is a difference between HEARING something and SAYING it. I would NEVER recite the Muslim creed, especially for money. My soul might be in danger if I did. Words on the lips have more power than you might think. You can say, “But I didn’t really mean it”, but then Jesus might ask you, “Then why did you say it?”.

      I freely say that verse because I believe it. But I am offended at the thought of being PAID to say it. It cheapens my faith to accept such compensation when I have already received eternal life.

      “Cheap lube service for cheap lip service” might be an effective advertizing strategy for his business, but it’s a lousy testimony of faith.

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    • Pappypatriot
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:54am

      @COLORADOBOOTS,

      I thought of the same thing when I saw this. God bless this guy and I really enjoyed the segment on Glen’s radio program. Pat and Glenn said they would drive 40 miles out of their way to do business with this guy. I think that is wonderful that this guy is doing what he feels is his Christian duty to share a simple yet very deep and very important scripture as if even one person’s life is changed for the better it was all worth it. In this economy all of his customers will benefit with the cheaper price to get an oil change.

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    • Freebird
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 12:11pm

      What a great way to start a conversation about the Son of God.That‘s what’s missing these days,people think their religion begins and ends at the church doors.It‘s refreshing to hear about someone who actually lives their faith in the workplace and doesn’t hide their light under a bushel.

      Someone on here said they were“Christian” and followed those words by saying the business owner should be ashamed.
      If I may quote Mark8:38; Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

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    • jerimiah41
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:02pm

      I love his creativity to bring in business to store.However, I have witnessed for the Lord every opportunity I get and this is a unique and creative to introduce or re-introduce our Lord to the
      people. I wish I was their and could stop in and just meet him. I am going to look up his shop
      and drop him a note to that effect and say a prayer for success to him. As far as any atheist
      is concerned, I would have gave them the deal just to let them know the Lord loves them also
      and will pray for them. I hope Charlie reads this response. He can reach me on norfolkcountypajamacollection@gmail.com Jerimiah

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    • SovereignSoul
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:32pm

      One man‘s discount is another man’s price increase. It just depends on your point of view. Offering a discount for reciting the verse is the same as charging a premium for those who can’t recite the verse. It is still a discriminatory practice. It’s just wrapped up in pretty bow so people will feel better about it. I doubt he’d take out an ad stating that “we charge more for people that can’t recite bible verses”, but it is essentially the same practice.

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    • DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:45pm

      Isles
      Why do you choose to look at it from only the negative? Why is it that they are getting “paid for saying it”? Why isn’t it that they are getting a discount from a fellow believer? If someone twists it for free oil then that is on them. He is trying to give a discount to those that are “equally yoked”. So, you think there are no cases in Scripture where something that is better, is saved for brethren and the gentiles get the less desirable?

      Deut. 14:21“You shall not eat anything that has died naturally. You may give it to the sojourner who is within your towns, that he may eat it, or you may sell it to a foreigner. But you are a people holy to the LORD your God.

      Or how about the brethren looking out for each other?

      All that believed were together, and had all things in common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
      (Acts 2:44-45)

      Are these stretches? You may think so from your pious spot, but His people are to be holy(separate) thus the whole point of such things as not eating pig and not working on Saturdays, etc. They were not “health benefits” or whatever dismissive ways modern xians use them. You are supposed to treat believers well because you are separate.

      Lev. 11:44 “I am the LORD your God; consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am holy.”

      Shalom

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    • Truthbeliever2
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:55pm

      @ SOVEREIGNSOUL
      “Offering a discount for reciting the verse is the same as charging a premium for those who can’t recite the verse.”

      For your sentence to make sense it should read:
      “Offering a discount for reciting the verse is the same as charging a premium for those who WON’T recite the verse.”

      So, if they WON‘T recite the verse then they WON’T get a discount. It is their choice to make. It‘s not that they CAN’T recite the verse…

      I’m on the side of the businessman; it’s his business and he should run the way he wishes, and if people don’t like it they can shop elsewhere.

      America: HOME OF THE FREE!!!

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:58pm

      Hey isles,
      Words from the lips mean absolutely nothing that why it’s call lips service. I don’t know to which ideology you belong. But I put little to no stock in a word spoken by anyone. ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS and the man that owns this oil changing business’s actions are clear.
      As atheist fight tooth and nail to keep any mention from being spoken in our scoiety. He is fighting to keep it heard in our society.
      The fact that you find it offensive lends me to believe that you’re a card carrying atheist. Could be wrong but that’s the impression I get.

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    • chitown
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:59pm

      Mention religion and the haters on the left become militant. I‘m sure that when their local tavern offers free or discounted drinks to women customers you won’t hear a peep. Discounts to customers is a tried and true business practice.

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 2:30pm

      He‘s not giving discount to ’believers,‘ he’s giving discount to ANYONE who will recite the verse. In no way is he discriminating,,,,the discount is available to ANYONE who wants it. And it’s his business,,,,so he can set the rules for the discounts as long as they are legal and available to EVERYONE. Personally,,,,I give him a gold start for being original….

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    • debvos
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 2:39pm

      We have been told to spread the “Good News” and there was never any limitations on how to spread the Word. Great job in Plano, TX!!!

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    • SovereignSoul
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:05pm

      @Truthbeliever2 you said, “So, if they WON‘T recite the verse then they WON’T get a discount. It is their choice to make. It‘s not that they CAN’T recite the verse…
      I say…”If they don’t know the verse it is highly unlikely they could recite the verse.”
      And, by the way, I‘m not on anybody’s side. I’m simply pointing out that it is a discriminating practice.
      Now, before get all worked up…discrimination is not necessarily a ‘bad thing’. I discriminate against broccoli and spinach every day and I don’t feel guilty about it at all. Truthfully, it is his business and he can do as he pleases. That doesn’t mean that giving discounts to a small number of your clientele is not discriminating. It’s a free country. Discriminate all you want. No problem here. I just find it amusing that you have to ‘dress up’ the practice so people won’t feel guilty about it.

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    • Pappypatriot
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:31pm

      There are all kinds of discounts given for reciting certain things. Haven’t you ever heard Glenn say mention Glenn Beck for an additional 10% off or tell them Rush Limbaugh sent you for a special gift. If this was a secular based type discount there wouldn’t even be a story, but the fact that it is religious based the socialists and liberals are screaming to high heaven. If you don‘t like what the man stands for don’t do business with him. If you don’t know the verse you just pay his regular price which is posted if you want the discount meet the criteria and its yours.

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    • Truthbeliever2
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:29pm

      @SOVEREIGNSOUL

      I kind of see where you are coming from. The only thing is I don’t understand how this practice is discriminatory if each individual has the choice. The advertising is in the form of a coupon, and it says if the customer recites John 3:16 they will get a discount. I mean he gives them the answer right there all they have to do is find out what John 3:16 says and they are golden. They have the choice as to whether they want to do the research or not. I just feel that calling this discriminatory is a bit of a stretch…

      Perfect example, PAPPYPATRIOT!

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    • bobemakk
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:34pm

      That is a great comment.

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    • Faith1029
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:20pm

      He can do what he wants but no, I do not agree with what this man is doing. Repeating a verse just to get a discount, and not meaning it, how is this witnessing to them? Did Jesus give discounts to those who would listen to Him? To me this is a mochery, unless this man is taking the customers aside and explaining to them what it actually means and how to have eternal life. Jesus is not for sale. No, a better way is to live your life as a Christian, set an example and people will see Christ in you. They will know us by our love.

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    • SovereignSoul
      Posted on October 1, 2011 at 12:08am

      The problem is that people don’t know what discrimination means. It is simply distinguishing differences between individuals or groups. Everyone of us discriminates in one way or another every day.

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  • snowy
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:26am

    I would rather believe that there is a God and die and go to heaven and findout that there is no God than not to believe that there is no God and go to heaven and find out that there is a God!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • beckisnuts.
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:25am

      But what if you picked the wrong god to believe in? For instance, suppose Allah is the correct sky spirit? OOPS!

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:42am

      The real question one should ponder is would you act any differently if there was no God or fear of damnation.. Those that would aren‘t really Christian they’re just scared and obeying out of fear.
      I for one believe in God and I believe that all religions that teach love,self responsibility,and morality are different paths to the same house. I also do what I do because it is my nature to do so I will give someone in trouble a hand up but I won’t caring them,I will sacrifice of myself in time and money but charity starts at home,will call out what I believe is immoral but I won’t force others to change. People who truely change do so because of what is inside not around them.

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    • saranda
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:45am

      Snowy – that kind of belief won’t get you anywhere near my heaven. You have to believe because it is true, not because it might be true and you want to cover your bases.

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    • JGraham III
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:04am

      This is very simple, so simple that even an atheist can get it: the Bible says there are two gods: 1) the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ and 2) the god of this age. The first is Love; the second is a liar and a murderer. It isn’t too hard in surveying the modern religious stage to see who is embracing one or the other is it?
      As for the individual who is offering the discount to those who can quote John 3:16 more power to him: anyone who can read and memorize can cash in on this deal, again so simple even an atheist can do it….

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    • redrover
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 12:03pm

      Both Christianity and Islam declare the are the only God. So you can’t sit on the fence and say all roads lead to heaven. Either God is who He claims to be and Christ is his only begotten son and our only way to heaven or it is a lie. If it is a lie then Jesus isn’t a “good prophet” or one of many gods. He is who he claims to be or a lier or crazy. If He is who he claims to be then He is the only way to God and salvation

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    • Nightjar
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:28pm

      Snowy, agree. I see nothing wrong with this man giving discounts for any who can recall a Bible verse. After all it‘s HIS BUSINESS not someone else’s.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 2:53pm

      Hey Redrover,
      Man wrote the book not God the only words ever written by God came from Mount Sinai. Jesus came down to deliver forgiveness. Eveything else is open to interepetion would God send a man who was good and followed in his commandment without ever reading them…I don’t think so.
      Would God send a man to he77 was a good man followed his commandment but call him budda instead of God…I don’t think so.
      Orginized Religion is a means of populus control True Religion is in your heart. A thief that hung on a cross beside Jesus prove as much.

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    • Fubar Frog
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:36pm

      @Bechisnuts: There is but ONE God, all others shall bow to Him.

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    • beckisnuts.
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:30pm

      There are no gods. Not even one. The very concept is a product of primitive thinking and primitive thinkers. Bronze age dead people have should have no bearing on the modern world. They have none on mine.

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  • Get off your butt and join the Marines
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:26am

    So, based on all of the comments here, since its his business he can do whatever he wants to do, right? The guy can put up a sign saying “No blacks allowed”? I bet all of you would be singing a different tune if it was a Muslim owner and only gave a discount to people who said “Allah Akbar”.

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    • VTDave
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:46am

      GET OFF YOUR BUTT……
      His sign is not telling anybody that they cannot get service at his business. Got it? There is absolutely nothing wrong with his running this deal and I am certain that any cutomers that have a problem can get this service elsewhere for the same price. $19.99 for an oil change is regularly available in my neck of the woods.

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    • Servant Of YHVH
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:51am

      That would be your perogative if you wanted to do that. Just like people that choose whether or not to frequent this business because of that or not. It would be our perogative whether or not to frequent your business if you did what you said. That is called free enterprise, also, since he did NOT say anything about “no blacks allowed” so that was a pretty stupid comparison. I love it when these liberals start saying; what if he said this…, or if he did this….. and very typical of liberals who cannot abide someone believing in God. If you choose not to believe in God then fine, that is your choice and you will have to deal with the consequences when you face Him on Judgement Day. It is amazing how people want to be respected and left alone because they don’t believe in God then attack people who do believe. It is called jealousy, because you are jealous that we have something to believe in that will cause us to have a better “life” after we die while you have nothing. You can (and I expect you will) deny what I just said but the facts stand for themselves. If you don’t want to believe in God, fine I will respect your wishes. However, I will also expect you to be man enough to respect my wishes to believe (even though I know enough about unbelievers to know that you will not), which is fine with me too since you don’t affect my beliefs.

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    • wes71
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:08am

      Sit down Francis! He offered a discount he didn‘t say you couldn’t come in his business if you can’t recite John 3:16. And God is great! It‘s his business if that’s what he wants.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:09am

      Yes, a private business could put up such a sign. And if a business is owned by a Muslim and he wanted to establish conditions related to Islam to receive his goods and services, that would be his right as well. Heck, I could start a busines that required women to wear bikinis in my shop if they wanted a discount, and that would be my right. Nobody compels you to buy a business’ products, and you can simply take your dollars elsewhere if your gentle sensibilities are offended.

      Private property rights apply to all, or they apply to none.

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    • crackerone
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:46am

      @VTDAVE

      Say Allah Akbar and a verse from the Koran, gets your camel a free enema.

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    • kraphtsman
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:58am

      This man’s business can give a discount (or NOT) to WHOEVER, and for WHATEVER REASON he chooses. This is NOT communist-China, you dolt. The same laws that allow him to market his business in this way is the same one that allows advertising companies like Clear Channel to allow PRO antisemitic/anti-Israeli ads to be plastered on New York subway walls, while denying PROIsraeli/anti-Islamic terrorist ads to run.

      Same thing goes for “ladies’ night”, “senior day”, and military discounts, too. Free speech, free association, and FREE-CHOICE bothers some folks. Must SUCK to be you.

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    • Rick494
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:12am

      He should be allowed to set the conditions for the discounts he offers. Otherwise, we should all get the same discounts as students, seniors, veterans, children, Senators, congressmen, etc.

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    • iac
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:46am

      Actually, If he owns a private business; he should be allowed to keep anyone out of his store thathe wants. Is it right ? No. Would he catch hell? Yes. But it should be his right.

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    • Amica
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 12:09pm

      I took a Logic course many years ago, and there is a term for what you just did. I don’t remember what that term is, but…there is one!

      Attacking an argument by raising an absurd comparison is illogical. Spock didn’t say that, I did!

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 12:17pm

      “No blacks allowed” He wouldn’t be recieving my business.Also, he would also be out of business within hours.

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    • SovereignSoul
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:15pm

      But, what if he didn’t refuse service to blacks? What if he just charged them more? That would definitely be wrong. Solution…How about offering 10% discount if you’re white? 5% discount if you’re half white? 50% surcharge for muslims? Same principle at work, but this way will get more hate mail.
      It is his business, however, and I agree, he should run it how he sees fit.

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    • Sy Kosys
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:35pm

      So, based on all of the comments here, since its his business he can do whatever he wants to do, right? The guy can put up a sign saying “No blacks allowed”?

      Yeah nah….

      Here’s another Plano store for ya….Affribean Market
      “Our store carries a variety of items from Africa and the Caribbean. We offer yams, goat meat, plantain, snails, fufu, fresh baked African breads, drinks, spices, and much more!! We also sell African movies, attire, cosmetics, and health and beauty products. ”

      So i guess that means “No whites allowed” eh?

      Nice try, but there is no parallel

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  • Jaydog
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:26am

    Awesome! Mr. Wei if you do not like it, go get your oil change somwhere else. No coupon no discount!

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  • HKS
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:25am

    Atheist are discriminatory, they don’t help anyone with anything. When was the last time you saw an atheist soup kitchen or an atheist hospital. There just a bunch of worthless humans that bring nothing to the table but complaints.

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    • Get off your butt and join the Marines
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:32am

      @HKS – That is one of the dumbest comments I’ve heard in a real long time. I am not an atheist, I am a Christian, but I have met many people who have doubts about God or religion, as well as many people who outright don’t believe in God, and many of these people have been the nicest most helpful people I have met. BTW, I can tell that you are a really good Christian since you seem to practice what Jesus preached, especially about ‘loving thy neighbor’ – oh wait, I think I was being sarcastic!

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    • HKS
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:45am

      Case rest

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    • beckisnuts.
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:29am

      That’s a really stupid comment. But then again, you are a Beck fan, so it is expected.

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    • saranda
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:01am

      HKS – maybe that is because atheists don’t generally advertise their atheism on buildings. There are many non religious hospitals and food kitchens that may or may not be staffed or even owned by atheists that you just don’t know about. It would be pretty silly for a soup kitchen to name itself “There is no God Center” or something similar.
      Just saying, not defending atheism, but surprised at your narrow view of the world.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 6:23pm

      That’s b/c they believe that the government should do all of the charity work rather than themselves.

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  • palerider54
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:24am

    More of us need to have the courage and conviction to speak Gods word. To not be ashamed to announce that you are a follower of Christ.

    And above all, to not cringe or hide in a corner when someone calls you a Bible thumper.

    I tell them I would rather have Gods love and salvation “thumped” into me instead of having Hells fire applied to my eternal soul, any time, any where.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:48am

      This may be an act of courage, but it isn’t really Christian. While I fully support his freedom do discriminate in ANY WAY in his own business, as a Christian I am offended that he would effectively pay people to recite Scripture. What kind of message does that send about the Gospel? I could care less about his business.

      The church has been seriously handicapped by letting acceptance of Christ be linked to any kind of worldly benefit, whether it be social/political advancement or monetary gain. It corrupts the faith.

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    • MemphisViking
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:38pm

      He’s not paying people to believe in Jesus, he’s encouraging people to read the Bible, starting with the verse that’s basically a summary of the whole Bible. If one person who‘s never cracked open a Bible before reads it to get this discount and ends up coming to Christ it’ll be worth it.

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  • Rached Madcow SHOW
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:23am

    …..and the Victim said “I’m gonna tell Obama and he will make you buy me a new car, because you are racist and we are tolerant!”

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  • watashbuddyfriend
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:22am

    Dang, Charlie, we don’t have a Kwik Kar here; guess I will have to drive there to take advantage! THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

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  • 82dAirborne
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:22am

    An atheist doesn’t belive -> the verse would just be some words -> a third grader could lean the words in five minutes.

    The owner should be able to do whatever he likes with his business!! I think it’s a great idea.

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  • mcmeador
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:17am

    Maybe it is discrimination….against the illiterate. Anyone else can pick up a Bible or search it online and learn the passage prior to going in for an oil change. Or you can just complain and cry about it and pay full price. It’s a pretty easy choice.

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    • wordsworth
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:56am

      It’s discriminatory.

      For some religions this would equate false idolatry. A Christian only discount , combined with a recitation requirement is worse than selling cupcakes pro-rated by race (and the cupcakes were to make a point anyway).

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    • JustPeachy
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:22am

      @Wordsworth. Oh boo hoo! So don’t go there to get an oil change. EASY FIX.

      And he never said it was for “Christians only.” lol He just said to get a discount, recite a verse. Big deal. To some, it is Scripture. To some, it simply would be akin to a trivia question. If they want to participate, they can and if not, they need not apply! LOL

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    • Brooke Lorren
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 2:51pm

      They wouldn’t even have to learn it. Just write it on a piece of paper and read it.

      I probably wouldn’t recite a Koran verse for a discount (it depends on the verse, I suppose), but if a Moslem wanted to offer a discount for saying a verse of the Koran, so what? Let’s me know to support a different oil change shop.

      Similarly, my husband just was accepted as a Blackstone Fellow. It’s this law organization for Christians. Rabid atheists probably wouldn’t want to hire him with that little tidbit on his resume, but then again, my husband wouldn’t want to work for them anyway. If you don’t like what this shop owner is doing, take your dollars elsewhere.

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  • smithclar3nc3
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:15am

    I always thought it was
    For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life

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    • mom4times
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:22am

      It’s probably just the difference between the king james version and niv ;)

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  • JLGunner
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:13am

    Welcome to America, where you can own a business and build your own business model. Go cry about prayer in schools.

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  • cemerius
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:12am

    I have a wonderful idea…some business identifies themselves as athiest and want to have people come in and say “God is a myth” for a discount…..I bet they will realize THEY are a minority in the tenth degree, they would lose more business then they would gain and then go under (unless the get a bailout)!

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:09am

    “You never see an atheist business owner saying she’ll give you a discount if you say “God is a myth.”
    Well then, buy a Jiffy Lube and knock yourself out Marshall. Charlie can do whatever Charlie wants to do and you are free to do the same.

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    • BEYES
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 2:21pm

      Amen !!
      Oops……..I’ll get in trouble for not checking to see if it was politically correct to say that.

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  • brntout
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:09am

    Well if they don’t like it theres aways Jiffy Lube.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:08am

    .
    Sounds like this guy did not get the MEMO. I’m sure Eric Holder will dispatch a minon to deal with him…..

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  • jcldwl
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:06am

    Thank you for what you are doing. If people don’t like it then that is their problem. The only discrimination that could occure from this is the backlash he is receiving. He has every right to run a Chritian oriented business and give a discount to those willing to recite a bible verse. I’ll bet his business increased. If he was near me he would get all my vehicle repair business.

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    • wordsworth
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:22am

      Wouldn‘t you feel it’s a violation if a Jew, Muslim or Hindu wanted to charge you double unless you recited one of his prayers, which in turn infringed on your beliefs?

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:57am

      I’m not sure I would go to his business. I don’t like my faith being prostituted that way. I would certainly tell him that was how I felt. He may need to hear that there are better ways to preaach the Gospel than paying people to give it lip service before they get lube service.

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    • BEYES
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 2:13pm

      @Islesfordian
      Is it really prostituting your faith or is it an opportunity to strike up a conversation about his passion for his faith? I see nothing wrong with what he’s doing and he has every right to do so. But I think your belief that hes prostituting the christian faith is more offensive than what he’s doing. His terms of his discounts are his business and there is no obligation to talk about religious beliefs if you choose not to. Even if you do recite John 3:16 you can leave it at that. Like one other poster mentioned, maybe having more discussions about God is what we need these days.

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  • chershaw8
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:03am

    It’s his business….so… “it’s his business!”

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  • givemelibertyorgivemedeath
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:01am

    It’s his business, he can offer whatever discounts he likes. So can an atheist. That‘s why we’re in America. I thought the coupon was genius. Good for him!

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  • grandmaof5
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:59am

    That is an interesting marketing twist, and kind of fun. If you don’t want to do it – don’t, but let those who do want to take advantage of it have fun. It will either help or hinder his business and, as a small business owner in these dire economic times, you take a chance and evaluate the success or failure, and then move on.

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  • BrandyWilson
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:59am

    Jolly Good…why not have perks for Scripture knowledge?…One is not forced to participate…one is not forced not to either!…American Capitalism! …You Gotta Love It!

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    • wordsworth
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:18am

      Because it excludes those who chose another scripture, and by default charges them a higher rate.

      There are ways of doing it, but demanding someone pose as a Christian or pay more is like asking customers to pay a Dhimmi tax.

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    • selloursouls
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:39pm

      @ Wordsworth A discount is not the normal price given. A Christian could go into the business and not quote or summarize the verse and not receive the discount. What about deals that satellite companies give to new customers but not old customers? Isn’t that discrimination? It’s called liberty and capitalism.

      We are free to do business as we see fit. If a Muslim business did something I didn’t like, I simply wouldn’t go there. The beauty of having so many choices on where to do business is that I can spend my money on someone’s business practice I like. If no one thinks the guy should do that guess what, he won’t get business and then he will go bankrupt. No service is being denied, however a DISCOUNT is being offered if someone knows a little bit of trivia. The price doesn‘t go up because you don’t know the verse it stays what it would be normally. Quit whining and go to another business that makes you happy.

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  • MARCH4HIM
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:56am

    Legal …who needs stinkin legal …That never stopped them before..Let the discrimination lawsuits begin….!

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    • GENEPAGLIARI
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:06am

      A man can run his business how he wants, period. End of story. Let the people who think this is discrimination rot. It is a promotion and that is all. He can set the parameters.

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    • Perspective
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:11am

      Where’s the discrimination? He never said you had to be a christian, you just have to recite the verse. Even if I was an atheist I’d be quoting it to get more than 50% off the cost of the oil change. The only discrimination is from the people who don’t like it. They are discriminating against a God fearing man.

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    • MARCH4HIM
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:45am

      I was sarcastic ..I’m with you on this… I wish I thought of it first…I might still use the idea…!

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    • MARCH4HIM
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:01am

      I can even apply this to my grand kids….as much stuff as they want… i’ll have them reciting the Bible in a no time…I can see this method of memorization as a good learning tool…at least I think so..I usually cave to them anyway..

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    • Cattiecathy
      Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:30am

      Maybe we should start law suits against _ Miss Black USA , Black Panthers , Black Intertainment , Black ? BC and All The Other Black Org, That Don’t let other Groups of Color in ? I’d say that a place to start !

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  • HKS
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:55am

    I’m still not getting this atheist thing, you got one in a town and they rule everyone else. What country is this? Maybe we do need a secret society to handle this kind of crap. I see it somewhere everyday, the tail wagging the dog. Are Americans really that passive?

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  • Peglegmorris
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:54am

    Hello? Discrimination? If you want a cheap oil-change go to Wal-Mart, it is always 19.99. I miss America…

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  • Taxpayer550
    Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:53am

    “Also, how come it’s always Christians who seem to do things like this? You never see an atheist business owner saying she’ll give you a discount if you say “God is a myth.” – Wei

    That’s because atheists own the mainstream media and the entire democrat party, dopey!
    Christians have few advocates and are frequently relegated to taking a backseat when it comes to expressing themselves.

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    • BarJabba
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 1:03am

      Aethist do other more distructive things, like fight other Christians for the minds of people. Dare I mention BUS AD’s? SO many more things on the same par that this atheist accuses all Christians of doing such a dasterdly deed as to find a way to get people in a conversation about (or thinking about, talking about) The Saviour Yeshua (Jesus).

      Aitheism IS definantly acting very much like a religion. A mind control group has the same aspects and agenas for proliferation.

      Doing this one thing, by one business, gets them out of the woodworks and fighting mad. Atheism does not allow any other thoughts from any other humans, aside from its godless dogma. Oh, they do not give near the attention to Budhists, Islamic/Muslims, and many others. It is CHRISTIANITY it seeks to distroy from society. I

      In a plualistic nation, you CAN NOT do that – and maintain freedom and liberty. If they could live with a nation that has a greater majority being Christian, then fine. But, they can’t. If they would consider a different place in the world, that would better suit thier dogma, they should do that. AH, but they are a proselyting religion. So, the war rages, I guess?

      Sorry folks, I am not one to go for Coton Candy Christianitym and we as a people need to stand. At ALL times stand. We have just as much right to exist and open our lives to whom ever we wish. If we want to talk to others about the drive in us, or spirituality, we have that ability.

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