Disgruntled Delivery Man Dedicates Blog to Bashing Bad Tippers
- Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:20pm by
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Attention residents of Williamsburg, Brooklyn: there is an angry bicycle delivery man on the loose. Be sure to tip him well or face the unholy wrath of his new blog, “≤15%: a bunch of sh***y tips.”
That’s right — don‘t tip enough and your name and address get posted to the peddling vigilante’s site dedicated to publicly shaming bad tippers. According to the anonymous bloggers first post, his minimum acceptable standard is… you guessed it, 15 percent:
“15 Percent is a blog documenting people, and companies who have never seemed to work in the service industry, or don’t think to tip at least 15% on deliveries, and instead opt for 2 dollars on everything,” the site says. “This is for all the people who have been handed $80 on a $78 order and told “keep the change”. Thanks a**-h***.”
According to Gawker, the website’s anonymous administrator is Larry Fox, a “20 year old designer and developer.”
“I just got tired of all these big companies, these TV shows and movie sets giving us two or three dollar tips on a $90 order,” Fox told Gothamist. “The excuse is that ‘we can’t tip because that‘s what corporate says’ is wrong. I find it disrespectful. And I wanted to make people aware of that.”
Gawker’s Adrian Chen writes:
We called Urban Rustic deli, one of Fox’s employers. Owner Luis Illades said that Fox was a member of a “close-knit group of kids” who deliver for a bunch of Williamsburg restaurants. Asked if he was concerned about the names and addresses of his customers being posted to the Internet, Illades said “It’s an art project—I have to support everyone’s art and voice.” That’s Williamsburg, folks!
This will either end in a mass conversion of all Williamsburg denizens into gracious tippers or Fox getting beaten up. Either way, this blog probably won’t be around for very much longer.
It‘s a good thing Fox doesn’t deliver in my D.C. neighborhood. I’m still under the impression that 10 percent is adequate (when did this change?) and only exemplary service earns the coveted 15 percent.
Speaking of tipping, why do we tip in the first place? Why is it even acceptable for restaurants to pay their staff sub-par wages and expect customers to pick up the difference?
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GayDem4Beck
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 10:24pmI don’t mind tipping people for good service… but the percentage is totally up to ME ! You give bad service, screw your mandatory 15%, I’ll never use your service again.
Most of Europe doesn’t accept tips, and when they do, it’s not much more than the equivalents of the US Dollar.
Report Post »freedomcatcher
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 12:22amEurope is primarily socialist, or worse. Tipping is a capitalist idea, know what I mean ?
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 10:23pmI hate to admit that I am one of those people who feel I have to tip at LEAST 20%, and that is on the TOTAL bill, taxes and all. I‘m not sure where I got that guilt from if I don’t, good service or not. :(
Report Post »DamienMaddox
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 7:53amIts not guilt, its “gratitude”. You’re thankful for the service rendered. Its not a bad thing.
Report Post »Rached Madcow SHOW
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 10:21pmI’m the only white guy in my apartment complex. The Pizza delivery man looks so happy to see that I’m white because he knows he will be getting a tip and I make sure he gets a generous tip. I guess that makes me and the black delivery driver racist. We learn what life teaches us. It’s called reality.
Report Post »marine249
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 10:43pmright on
Report Post »epmonroe
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:36amI worked in the bar and restaurant business for a litlle over 10 years. I remember when I was managing a restaurant I had 3 white and 2 black waitresses, and they would occaisionally get into arguments over who would take this or that black patron. :-) Black people, (at least in that area) just didn’t tip! Or at least VERY little. And they would run you ragged! Even my black waitresses didn’t want to wait on them! :-) I had the same experiences when I waited or bartended. I’ve never understood it. You would think the opposite would be the case.
Report Post »Granted, this may just be a local issue. I don’t know. This was in eastern NC and I’ve not worked much in the business elsewhere in the country.
The other worse patrons (and this is everywhere!) are the white Sunday afternoon crowd. They just got out of church and they’re pissed! Rude, lousy tippers! They had to be good for a few hours and when they get let out they have to take it out on the wait staff! :-)
I always tried to make sure I wasn’t working that shift!
chalkdust
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:29amThat is a stereotype. Sometimes they are true. As someone who knows first hand that a large percentage of black people are not going to tip you. I have learned to do my best to not assume I will not get a tip if the customer is black. I find it reflects poorly on me more than the stiffer. I use to think they were just racist but I know many black guys that get stiffed by the same people.
Report Post »Are people who stiff delivery drivers and waitstaff of poor character? Maybe, but I try not to judge because my character is important to me and I’m not sure which is worse.
DamienMaddox
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 7:51amI honestly could not pin a demographic to bad tippers.
The closet I could come would be that snobs and general low lives tip the worst. But to me, the only difference between a snob and a low life is lifestyle and income. They are both self centered and greedy at the core.
The big tippers were always people that everyone seems to get along with.
Report Post »marine249
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:53pmat one time more than 10 years ago, I ouned a pizza place.
Report Post »smoetime I would be working by myself. yes I would take yhe order,
make the pie, and take it to the table. As the owner I didn’t many tips.
People come up to me today and say ” I sure miss your pizza. ”
When I go somewhere if the service is good I tip. If its bad no tip.
When you took the job you knew what you were going to make an hour.
If you get good tips, “ good ” you are a good worker.
marine249
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 10:03pmthat is
Report Post »I owned
take the order
didn’t get many
jkwinters64
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:40pmI deliver appliances for 10 years. Tips were few and far between. If I got one I was grateful for it. I did my job to the best of my ability because that’s what i was paid for. A tip was not a requirement or an expectation. I had plenty of people praise my work and express great satisfaction, and they didn’t tip. They paid the store a delivery fee and assumed that that $50 went to me and that a tip wasn’t required as they had already put out a chunk of money. I never corrected them. When you take a job waiting tables or delivery food (or appliances) you know what you’re getting into. You know the wage you‘re making and you know that some people tip and some don’t . Deal with it. Don’t like it, get a different kind of job. I left delivery not because I didn’t get tips, but because I was no longer challenged by my job and needed to try something else.
Report Post »Dan
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:40pmRegardless of this person’s attitude and approach, the point he is trying to make is correct. Does anyone stop to think that the IRS is taxing these people at a rate that ASSUMES they get a 15% tip on every meal? If you tip $3 on a $90 tab, they are, in effect, losing money to Uncle Sam. If you can’t afford to cover a 15% gratuity (for adequate service), you should go to McDonalds. As for me, I use a 20% rule, adjusted up or down based on the quality of service. 10% is as rare as 25%. Most rare (Once per decade?): Zero percent for people I think shouldn’t even be in the food service industry.
Report Post »Airabella
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 10:20pmThat should be 2 penny to show you did not forget the tip. I have been in the food business a long time and there is some people that really do not deserve a tip. The interesting part is they are usually the one that complain about the not getting a good tip the most.
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:27pmI will guarantee that just about every two or three dollar tip given on a big tab is done so by liberals. Liberals are cheap-skates by nature. They are the self-absorbed elites who don’t give a damn about anybody but themselves. They have to know that delivery people get paid next to nothing by the business and that tips are their only reason for doing that work in the first place. But as any good liberal elite would tell you, if being honest (a stretch in itself) they don’t care a whiff about the poor slob who delivers their stuff……….They care about themselves and ONLY themselves!
Report Post »wheelgunsrock
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:27pmYou can absolutely tell a person’s character by the way they tip. I don‘t care if it’s pizza delivery, 24 hour diner, or white table cloth fine dining, poor tippers are folks of low character. No one likes a person that looks down their nose at others and that is exactly what bad tippers are doing.
Wait staff have the ungodly triple whammy of having to deal with $2.15/hour + TIPS, unreasonable customers, and short tempered cooks. They have to do their job in a helpful, friendly way and hope they don’t get saddled taking care of a table full of cheapskates.
Argue all day long that they could get another job. At the moment it is the one they have that is paying their bills, maybe putting them through school.
Report Post »StevenL1955
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:26pmMaybe it should be that if the service sucks, they have to pay us 15% maybe?
Report Post »obamaphobia
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:22pmONCE AGAIN i want to ask has anyone heard of the illumati?
Report Post »Marengo Ohio Patriot
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:30pmWell, I drive a Chevy Lumina… That’s pretty close, right?
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 10:34pmOf course; I listen to ‘coast to coast with George Noory’ from time to time.
Report Post »LIVINGTHEDREAM
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 11:40pmYep
Report Post »Ditto Head
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 1:32amI first heard that term in the 70s when my buddy’s uncle would be telling us stories of stuff like how the UPC symbol was the “beginning of the takeover” by the illuminati, and how aliens had infiltrated our government. This stuff ain’t new.
Report Post »smak
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:14pmCranky old white men!
Report Post »NeoMouser
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:11pmtipping is a reflection of the service they receive
Report Post »got the order wrong bad tip
forgot to get the refill on something bad tip
me on the other hand i usually tip 1.00 for every 5 dollars i spend
they dont like it then next time i wont tip
Marengo Ohio Patriot
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:17pmI only gots me a public edu-ma-cation but damn, i thinks that equates to sump’in like…..20%
Report Post »GadsdenPatriot
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:04pmA tip is a gratuitous gesture, hence, TIP. No one forced these ungreatful employees to take the job. If you don’t like it, leave. We’re all suffering in this leftist induced economy, you’re lucky to even have a job.
Report Post »obamaphobia
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:20pmtrue about being grateful for having a JOB….. BUT IM SURE YOUR THE FIRST IN LINE WAITING FOR THE END OF YEAR BONUS
Report Post »savarulz
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 10:24pmAs a former waiter who worked for TIPS, it really pissed me off when I gave excellent service and got nothing for a TIP. If you get bad service then it’s not deserved, if you get decent service, then 10%, but for the many that gives excellent service it should be 15% or more. If you don‘t like to tip then don’t eat out, or order delivery, somebody has to pay for the gas.
Report Post »Ellbee
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 6:59amIt‘s called a TIP but like it or not it’s part of the WAGE. Get it? Those who complain are the hopelessly ignorant who should not be eating out anyway. “Your boss should pay you more” isn’t going to happen. Who wants to hoof “sweet tea” to the family of five who runs you to death, stays too long, leaves the entire area filthy and tips a buck or two? Good service is important, but so are YOUR manners. And I really hate to mention it, but the worst service time is Sunday after church in podunkville. Place is elbow to elbow and every server in there knows the tips aren’t even going to pay gas to get home. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Stop using “the system is broken” excuse to undertip. If you can‘t afford to tip you can’t afford to eat out. PERIOD.
Report Post »aliengenius
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 6:11pmYou are right Gadsen, so I’m sure you will not be utilizing a service that would involve a tip since we do have such a bad economy, seeing how you want to save money and all. Last I checked the grocery store and the home kitchen were tip free zones.
On a side note the whole ‘You are lucky to have a job’ sentiment is more of a leftist way of thinking. For a free market thinker you would have a job because there is a demand for it and you deserve it by your hard work or ability. To imply that one is ‘lucky’ to have a job you are saying they neither deserve it nor is there a demand for it. Since you are there, ready to utilize the service that covers the demand portion so now we just have to figure out why they don’t deserve it.
Is it because there are ‘better’ jobs out there they should strive for? Ok fine so then who will fill the demand for the service your are ready to receive? If all the waiters and delivery people go off to better jobs and you are still waiting to be served what would happen? Hmmm…it would seem wages would have to go up in order to encourage the supply which would in turn cost you more to utilize the service…I’m sorry sir, but it would seem that you are going to pay for that service one way or the other. OR, you could just be cheap and in a round about way leech off the system by relying on the kindness and good tips of others to keep the position filled so that there is a supply to meet the demand…wow it’s almost like wellfare! Its like the top 1-10% paying most of the tips and covering for the lower 47% who don’t leave any tips…isn’t that remarkable how that plays out? Maybe we could even work on a system of rebates for the non-tippers that could also be covered by the ‘wealthy’ tippers. We should all pay our fair share after all…
Report Post »Mainer forever
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:55pmI’ve waited tables before….and it isn’t fun especially the very “hard to please” customer who take up all of your time, and then leaves a couple of bucks on an $50.00 tab.
Report Post »Marengo Ohio Patriot
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:06pmSo, the customer is “taking up all your time?”
Report Post »How sad you never realized that the only reason you had a job to begin with was due to that “pesky ‘ol customer, taking up all your valuable time!”
Mainer forever
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:55pmLet me put it a different way….the difficult customer, probably some one like you Marengo…with whom you do everything to please them…….. and you end up with a lousy tip….Have you ever waited tables? Probably not!!! So till you do…..
Report Post »chalkdust
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:52am@MARENGO OHIO PATRIOT
Report Post »By “taking up all my time”, he means not able to take more tables to make more money. Get em‘ in get em’ out. This is a business and volume is key. So if a “camper” doesn’t tip you very good or not at all they not only stiffed you, but cost you money in lost time to take more tables. Its part of the business and all wait staff have to deal with “campers”. The restaurant industry is a fine example of capitalism at its best. Market forces…
Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 11:49amNo joke. All the self-righteous no-tippers who don’t even understand the economics of the service industry preaching about how they think it is. Hilarious.
Report Post »T-rav
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:55pmI quit tipping for Papa John’s delivery because they already charge a delivery fee. If ya don’t like the pizza delivery business go elsewhere for a job. It’s weird I left one place I worked at and went to another because the new job compensated me better for my skills than my old job.
Report Post »Bill Robelen
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 12:45amI used to deliver Pizza for a local Papa John’s. We started charging the delivery fee to make up the small commission that was given to drivers. I can still say that the commission never fully covered the gas plus the wear and tear I put on my car, plus the more expensive insurance I had to have. Yes, pizza delivery guys have to have commercial policies. It was assumed that tips were part of my wages. If you really don’t want to tip, then don’t complain when everybody has to raise prices to cover your lack of tipping. It is still part of our culture of etiquette that we tip most delivery drivers and waiters. They are taxed as if they get tips, so give it to them. I do not always say 15% tip on everything, but I was grateful to the customers who gave good tips. On the rare times, ok not so rare times right after Katrina when everyone was sitting collecting FEMA unemployment, if I had two orders about the same time, if one was a place I knew would give me a good tip, and the other was a place I knew would not tip me, the tipper got his pizza first.
Report Post »chalkdust
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:38amWe don’t worry about jerks like you. For every jack-wagon like you there are 10 that do tip. We deliver your pie to you courteously hot and fresh no matter that you look down your nose at us and take the benefit of someone else’s hard work. Someone posted that people who stiff are of poor character. Maybe they were right.
Report Post »smak
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:48pmDrunk
Report Post »southernORcobra
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:46pmfind a diffrent job then or better yet stop your crying cause some people don’t have a job
Report Post »orlandojon
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:45pmTipping is just an excuse for employers to pay dirt poor wages. Time to end tipping. When you order pizza they tack a delivery charge on there that goes to the pizza joint even though the delivery person is driving their own car and gas. Make the delivery charge serve as the tip.
Report Post »savarulz
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 10:27pmThe delivery charge usually does not go to the business it goes to the delivery person for the lack of tips.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 10:28pmI go and pick up my own. I do not want some stranger knowing where i live…..
Report Post »chalkdust
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:09amThe delivery fee is a product of rising cost to do business. Only part of that fee goes to the driver and its not a tip, its to cover gas and the rest goes to the business to cover insurance and such. It was at one time reflected in the cost to the customer but as the cost of food and gas has gone up, the delivery fee was born. It really serves to keep the profit margin from shrinking. Generally speaking, a delivery restaurant has to profit about 40% to stay in business. You can handle some down months but if its a prolonged slide you will be out of business or making very little money.
Report Post »DamienMaddox
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 7:41am@SAVARULZ
No, the delivery charge does not go to the delivery person. Every major pizza franchise takes 100% of the delivery charge.
The delivery person loses money because everyone assumes it goes to them.
Report Post »Chancelor32
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 4:51amI deliver for a major pizza chain that charges for delivery. All of that charge goes to the store (they even started putting that on the boxes). They pay us less than minimum wage and we pay our own expenses, so YES, I EXPECT A TIP! If you don‘t think its fair then don’t order delivery, cheapskates.
Mr_Anderson- If I ever go to Japan I will follow their customs and not tip, If you come here then you should follow ours. I’ll continue to treat people the way they treat me. If they expect me to spend MY money to drive food to their house over and over again then I’m flipping their pizza!
Report Post »Heywood Jablome
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 1:22pmThe delivery charge is used by the restaurant to pay the store’s liability insurance against any accidents the drivers get into. It is also used as an excuse to off-set higher fuel prices for the delivery costs of bringing the bulk food to the store. The store also uses it to pad their bottom line. Generally speaking, the driver sees little or none of it.
Report Post »psycodad36
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:42pmI allways tip great waitstaff very well.if your dropping off a pizza,well what do you expect?your what ?16?first job.and you want to be paid more from me than your employer thinks your worth?keep delivering the pies untill you graduate college .then you can go to wendy’s where you get the big tips!
Report Post »eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:38pmNever trust a food-delivery person – - They are all disgruntled, and they spend private-time with your food!
Report Post »Marengo Ohio Patriot
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:57pmSo much for my Friday night pizza…..thanks!
Report Post »chalkdust
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:39amYep, your blanket statement covers all of us. Not a good soul among us. We are just horrible people of the “delivery” clan. We cannot be trusted, yet somehow you do trust us. You don’t trust us because we handle your food out of your sight? Should it not be, you don’t trust us TO handle your food out of your sight because we are the horrible delivery clan?
Report Post »DamienMaddox
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 7:38amI was never like that when I was a delivery person. I understood that being polite to all customers, regardless of how they treated me, was better for me in the long run.
I never met anyone who did anything to anyones food either, if I did, I would have put them just as low as someone who robs a delivery person. There is never an excuse for something like that.
Report Post »Marengo Ohio Patriot
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:31pmHey, Ya want a good tip? Stay out of bad neighborhoods at night!!
Report Post »lcam67
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:38pmand lets not forget the classic, don’t smoke under water….. great tip
Report Post »bry
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:40pmIf you are too cheap to tip the delivery person or the wait staff, stay home and cook. Do you not understand that the tip is the main part of the persons wage? Don’t like it, fine, but ii is what it is.
Insist the employer pay a higher wage and he will just pass the cost on to you.
Stop blaming the worker, they are trying to make a living, or work their way through school. Not so easy to get another job when you are juggling work and school. Service jobs usually have more flexable hours. But, I guess the service workers a commoners and don’t deserve a second thought to many otherwise “nice” folks.
If I could not afford the tip, I would not order out. The server is not your slave.
Report Post »unsalvageable.org
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:59pmHere’s another tip…Never pee into the wind, it will come back to haunt you.
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dchetak
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:02pmIf you can‘t afford the tip then don’t order the service. This guy works hard. If you don‘t understand that then you also don’t understand Christian ethics.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 11:56pmdchetak
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:02pm
If you can‘t afford the tip then don’t order the service. This guy works hard. If you don‘t understand that then you also don’t understand Christian ethics.
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WHAT DOES TIPPING HAVE TO DO WITH ETHICS
Report Post »Ditto Head
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 1:09amAnd never, I repeat never, pet a burning dog.
Report Post »Humbaba
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:27pmIf you don’t like it, get a different job.
Report Post »Non_Probate_Asset
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 10:47pmOr, you know, people could pay the customary percentage for restaurant services. Tipping goes like this: at least 15% for service from a restaurant, $1 for every drink you order at a bar. If you can’t afford that, you can’t afford to be in the bar or restaurant.
What is wrong with your people? The servers and delivery people of this world already wait on you hand and foot, and yet you won’t even pay them the wages they earn from you unless they “go above and beyond.” It makes me sick.
Report Post »Hawt'n'secksie
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:27pmSuch an honorable profession…delivery man. He should form a union that mandates tips be 30% or better. I bet he smells like vinyl, rusty spokes, and yambags.
Report Post »dchetak
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:57pmThat’s right. This guy works hard and you call him names. Very classy
Report Post »smak
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:08pm@ Such an honorable profession
What flew up your ass?
Report Post »White Ninja
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 10:11amWe dont know if he works hard. He might be a craptastic delivery man. He might not. Kudos to him for having a job but what he’s doing I think it incredibly stupid. Having a blog taking shots at bad tippers? Great! Why not add litter bugs and people who dont return shopping carts to the mix? That drives me insane too but releasing people’s personal information is very dishonorable.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 4:34pmten bucks says that’s your real picture.
Report Post »aliengenius
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 5:52pmIs there not honor in work? The reason we have unions is that at some point there were people being taken advantage of. Like all collections of power they corrupt over time. I think it is a better solution to avoid taking advantage of people in the first place. If you treat people fairly you will be fairly served in most situations. If you don’t like tipping, feel free to contact the business in question and I‘m sure they would be happy to tack on a ’service fee’ for you.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:27pmWe tip because the person attending us goes the extra mile, period. Or, if GOD says, “This `kid’ needs some extra help, we do it, gratefully!
Report Post »dchetak
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:55pmWe tip because it is the right thing to do. Period.
Report Post »SLARTIBARTFAST
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 11:14pmI delivered pizza when I was in college, and customers could clearly see I used my own vehicle (not to mention gas!) It‘s not worth doing if you don’t get tipped; it works out below minimum wage. Still, I was lucky to get tipped anything on even half of my deliveries. Please remember the pizza driver as he is basically getting paid for the depreciation on his vehicle!
Report Post »GBMBulletsSKNRD
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 11:20pmkickagrandma
Bingo grandma thats whats I am talking about. When I was 16 I lived to make the tip. If you did not preform the task with respect on both sides you slept on the street.
You can rarely find that in todays kids.
Report Post »DemocracyisTyranny
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:03amBut they now feel entitled to a tip. They are like welfare queens. They are not grateful only mad when they don’t get what is theirs
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 4:33pmthey’re mad because they make $2.13 an hour and a church group just came in and filled their whole section up for 2 hours and left them 5 dollars. You’re the one wanted a better price on your menu items AND not to tip for the service. There is a LONG STANDING tradition in this country to tip for service. commie.
Report Post »aliengenius
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 5:46pmI find it interesting that so many of you view a tip as ‘charity’ or ‘wellfare’. It is neither. This person is doing a voluntary job serving you. It is a LUXURY service. You do not NEED to go to a restaurant. You do not NEED to order delivery. Like it or not we utilize the tipping model in this country. If there are not tips, there are no waiters or drivers. Obviously because they still exist, most people are tipping. To you defiant non-tippers or lousy tippers I offer that it is YOU who are the wellfare leach, benefiting from others kindness who did tip. It is YOU who feel entitled in that you demand someone serve you for free. Perhaps you would do well to think about that before you go tossing around assumptions.
Report Post »JCoolman
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 8:03amTipping is just the end result of regulation and meddling into the free market. What else is new? Be careful to the guy who is posting names. You might just end up on a list or website as well. And your $3 will turn into $0. Law of unintended consequences.
Report Post »bullcrapbuster
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:25pmTipping is a scam. Business owners have already been paid for the service. Get your friggin 15% from them. What is the tip for?
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:31pmTips are like a box of choclolates, sometimes you get a good one, other times you get a bad coconut one. Don’t gripe if someone hands you free money, take it and say, thank you.
Report Post »Hawt'n'secksie
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:33pmOooh! Coconut ones are the worst! Taste like burnt ball fuzz.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:41pm@HAWT
Report Post »Ok I’ll trade this Carmel for that coconut.
Smitty1969
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:43pmI have a few Liberal friends, ALL of them are an embarrassment then thy tip. Sounds like he delivers to Dems.
Report Post »Smitty1969
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:44pmwhen they tip !
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:44pmI have heard that in some states people in the waiting business are assumed on their taxes to have made 40% or so as tips, even if the restraunt they work in does not allow for tipping. So this guy to complain such for low tips is ridiculous, people will tip what they feel a service is worth, if anything.
Report Post »panzerf
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:49pmWhy should I tip unless someone goes above and beyond? Take restaurant wait staff for example. The menu says “this is the price, plus a little extra which you have to figure out.” Raise prices to include a decent wage for your staff. If I went to the customers of the business I work for, and said “I’m not getting paid enough, and you have to make up the difference” they would throw me out.
Report Post »dchetak
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:51pmObviously you have never worked on a job where you got tipped. You are an ass and you’re rude. What goes around comes around. I’m sure your life is ****.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:55pmOne thing this gentleman should understand is that the more he posts peoples names on his own blog sight, the likelihood is that there will be less and less business for him to take care of and not the other way around for larger and larger tips to be issued.
Report Post »DamienMaddox
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:25pmBold statement to say tipping is a scam.
I think its ridiculous that in order to get tips, a company basically has to pay such a lower per-hour salary.
I use to do delivery and relied on tips to make a living, but I never whined about the percentage. A big tip to me was $5, didnt matter if the order was $1 or $100. Again, $5 was a *big tip*, $2 was the norm.
The 15% guideline is for restaurant waiters/waitresses who go back and forth to your table to server your meal, drinks, refills, whatever else you need for the 30 minutes or however long it takes you to enjoy your meal.
15% is a lot to expect for just delivering food. This guy should complain about the delivery fee’s that go to the business instead of the person actually doing the delivery.
Report Post »brliantedj
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:28pmIf you’ve ever worked in the server business, Trust me you’ll never tip below 20%. TRUST ME!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:36pmI tip on service .. poor service you are lucky to get 10% .. great service can be over 20% … I have notice a lot of women working for tips assume that women won’t tip well .. never assume! Give great service to all.
Report Post »110john
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 9:54pmYou know your right. And maybe the business owner should only give you one glass of water or one napkin and fork. Tough if you want more – much less have someone ‘wait’ on you should you need something besides the meal you paid for.
Report Post »Vet with Vendetta
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 10:00pmHere’s a funny story about tipping. My wife and I have always made it a habit when we go out to eat to tip a minimum of 20%. We typically figure 20% and round up to the next dollar, so it’s usually slightly higher. My wife and I were struggling financially and we were sitting at a Christian restaurant when I had the feeling I should ask if they were hiring. Long story short, my wife walked away from dinner that night with a job starting two days later.
Report Post »I believe that was 100% God providing for us as He always does, but I suppose it pays to be kind.
I agree with the comment above that these people should just take the tip and say thank you. Greed and hatred never ends well for anyone in eternity.
Stoic one
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 10:21pmIn 1972 I was the bag boy at RAF Edzell, Scotland. The commissary paid me nothing. The commissary had a sign that state I worked for tips only. On pay day weekend I would make 200-300 dollars. People would come from Ireland as they did not have a commissary. I learned quick that I was responsible to the customer; not the store.
This mix of reduced wage plus tip system is MESSED UP.
GBMBulletsSKNRD
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 10:42pmEverybody is making jokes about this. Believe me this is not a joke. When I was in high school and living on my own at 16. Tips helped pay my rent. I was lucky my boss fed all employee’s whenever they where hungry. If you can make it to CA please look up La Gare in Santa Rosa. They are good people and the food is great.
This is not a plug, I have not worked there for some 30 years.
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 11:21pmWe don’t have a tipping culture in NZ. This always causes some awkwardness and embarressment when we go overseas for the first time. That being said, I have noticed things slowly starting to change in the big cities, such as Auckland, but its not an automatic thing.
I am not sure whether its a good thing or not. I think that it should encourage good service, but I can say that when in Europe or the US, I have occasionally received some pretty poor service followed by a surly reaction when the tip is correspondingly poor.
One one well-remembered occasion, after the waitress had brought the meals over with her thumb in the mashed potato, banged the plates down without a word and walked off licking the spud from her fingers, I was advised that we foreigners “need to learn how to tip”. I explained to the maitre d‘ as we left why we hadn’t tipped excessively.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 11:45pmGBMBulletsSKNRD
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 10:42pm
Everybody is making jokes about this. Believe me this is not a joke. When I was in high school and living on my own at 16. Tips helped pay my rent. I was lucky my boss fed all employee’s whenever they where hungry. If you can make it to CA please look up La Gare in Santa Rosa. They are good people and the food is great.
This is not a plug, I have not worked there for some 30 years.
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NO THANKS. THERE ISNT A FOOD OR RESTAURANT GOOD ENOUGH TO MAKE ME WANT TO GO TO CALIFORNIA
Report Post »theonefromabove
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 12:00amIn other counties tipping is not done.
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Report Post »GBMBulletsSKNRD
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 12:04amPsychosis
I am going on 50 years here and if I where you I would not step a foot in CA if you don’t have to. Back in my days growing up in Northern CA was a different place. I am sorry you will never experiance the Giant Redwoods, The Coast and the many other wonders I have seen.
Comeing from a proud member of the very few sane in CA.
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 12:53am@GBMBulletsSKNRD
Report Post »Next time Im in Santa Rosa I will look up that restaurant. You are right about Northern Cali. I loved it when I lived in Sacramento, the Govt and Taxes were killing us though. If they could make Northern Calif. its own state, the motto would be, “IT’s our water, dammit.”
Ditto Head
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 1:23amWhat chaps my pits is that many restaurants are now adding a “gratuity” right to the check. When I see that on the menu, my wife and I just get up and leave the restaurant, on the way out politely telling the nearest employee why we’ll not be spending our money there, ever. I‘LL decide how much I’m tipping. As a general rule, I’ll start the tip around 25% and start knocking $$$ off every time the waitress (if it’s a man I still call him the waitress) messes up or is rude, although I’d never stiff. If the service is that bad, I tip 8% and tell the manager what I think. If it happens at the same restaurant twice, well, as Ernst Stavro Blofeld would say, “You only live twice, Mr. Bond.”
Report Post »Infected
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 1:42amLast I was told, servers make $2.30 an hour here…. The way it was explained to me is that the government automaticly assumes you make and 8% tip, and they charge the server tax on that 8%…. So if you tip under 8% then the server is actually paying the government for the job to serve you.
Report Post »Enuff Zenuff
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 1:53am.
If we did not have tipping, then the business owner / restauranteur, etc would pay straight wages and you’d still pay for those in higher prices for your food & deliveries.
Guess where that leads? – Lousy service – because the waiter/deliverer gets paid the same whether they work hard or not. I like our voluntary tipping system because it is capitalistic. If the service is good to great, I pay 20%. If it is merely average/expected, I aim for 15%… but when it is truly lousy, I love it that I can say or do something about it and just leave some change. I figure that unless it is low enough, they won’t get the message that the low tip was my intentional response to their rudeness or minimal attention. It’s very rare that that happens – and I figure that’s because we use the tipping system.
I know that there are lousy tippers out there who take advantage of our ‘tipping’ system as a way to save money. All I can say is remember them and next time avoid them like the plague if you can or even engage them in a conversation about tipping – but say it with humor! If you’re in a job where tipping is normal, then you better have good people skills! If not, then deliver packages or something where you don’t have to interact with people that much.
In Europe, a lot of countries do not use tipping – or if they do it is only a very minimal amount – like in Germany where a $1.00 tip for a meal is about normal – since the restaurant owner pays them a good wage and good service is a point of national pride… So if your customers are foreign tourists, then it could be that your customers are not used to our system of tipping – and would be embarassed if they knew they did not tip sufficiently.
As for the guy in the article who started this website – I don‘t like the idea that he’s posting names unless he opens it up for customers to leave feedback for him as well. I don’t know him, but I get a feeling that he‘s got an ’attitude’. How do we know that the poor tipping he receives might not be telling him something about his service? Maybe he’s so self-centered he’s unwilling to admit there may be room for improvement. If he liked people better and they sensed it in his conversation, I bet his tips would improve overnight! Haven’t you ever overtipped a really friendly waiter or waitress just ’cause they made you feel great? – I believe that’s a part of offering good service – it’s not just about the speed and the accuracy – it’s also about “Service with a smile”!
Report Post »chalkdust
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:25amAs a 20 year veteran in the delivery business I know all to well what is like to get the shaft on a delivery. It sounds like the guy is venting. I understand that very well, you don’t want to carry frustration to your next delivery. That said, I think its very inappropriate to post names and addresses. I was surprised that the boss didn’t seem to care. I would be fired if I did something like that and rightfully so. Although, I do live in a different (normal) world than the northeast and I thank God every day.
For all you guys that don’t tip or are fussy at the drop of a hat I have a golden rule that I practice: NEVER ****OFF A PERSON THAT HANDLES YOUR FOOD OUT OF YOUR SIGHT!
I always tip pretty good no matter what and tip really good if the service was excellent.
A. Because I work in the business.
B. While I have morals and would never adulterate a customers food (not to mention illegal), I know there are those that would.
I don‘t worry to much about customers that don’t tip. I have my own way of venting before my next delivery. I IMAGINE myself with a bucket of golf balls and my over-sized driver in front of there house and the thought of 120 mile-an-hour golf balls careening through windows is enough to make me smile.
I will leave you with some service industry humor.
“Tipping is not a city in China”
“Those that do not tip will be serving ice water in haiti”
Feel free to add some more.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:48amI ran into a site the other day that wants to take down a Finance Company. The person that started the site is angry as a hornet and has gotten people from all over the country that have complaint about the very same lender. The idea of the site was to start a class-action lawsuit against the lender. I was a little concerned that so many people were mad at this lender because its the very same lender I use.
But then I started reading some of the comments. Turns out that most of the people were angry and want to sue because the lender repocessed their car. And I will wager good money that Conservatives like me won’t give a crap when you find out why.
These people had stopped making the payments on their automobiles! Progs are probably getting mad right now. Hahahahahaha… you don’t pay-up, you don’t drive-up.
Time for a real leader…
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Long Form in Ya FACE
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:11amI worked in the food service industry for almost a decade. While it’s true that people who rely on tips typically make less than minimum wage per hour, how many of you who have worked for tips every actually MADE less than minimum wage? Servers and delivery people typically made twice what the kitchen staff made and they ALWAYS claimed only the minimum that they had to so this is all a bunch of crying. On paper you don’t make much but you do actually make pretty well. Plenty enough to balance out the bad tips.
And to the person who said all their democrat friends tip poorly, BS. Every place I ever worked was LOADED with liberals who fully understood the tipping thing. If anything, CHURCH people are well known to self righteously not tip.
Report Post »MR_ANDERSON
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:51amHe should move to Japan (Or many other countries) where tipping is considered an act of disrespect.
When I am back in the United States, I still tip unless I have horrible service, but I make sure to tell those that I am out with the story of how tipping is disrespectful, and do so in earshot of my waiter/waitress, usually when they are at my table.
Report Post »Long Form in Ya FACE
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 4:00amironic that you would disrespect your server in order to tell your lame story about tipping being disrespectful.
Report Post »missionarydad
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 4:30amWow some of you people here are really starting to disappoint me I thought you were better than that. \
The guy is right although he should not be complaining as cheap-scape morons are just part of life.It is his time and energy being used up to deliver and 15% is the standard. If he gets the item there promptly and in good order he should get minimum of 15%. If it is bad weather and a much needed item and you couldn’t, or would not want to go after it yourself that should be factored in on the tip and a 20% minimum is in order.
Sorry guys I hope in the Judgement, and when The Lord figures your reward he is more generous than what some of you are being here. The key to a happy life is to be as generous and appreciative of everyone as you reasonably can and would want them to you if the situation were reversed, it is part of the golden rule.
Especially in this economy we should be thinking of the other guy and realize that he may be making much less than normal, you may be his only business for a couple hours, and he is probably getting shortchanged by many. Hey it is your opportunity to do a good deed and make up for the raw deal the poor guy is probably getting. Are we not all beggars and in debtors before the Lord? If he has blessed you, you are in a position to bless others. This is not redistribution of wealth, if we all thought like I have described here, leftist like Obama wouldn’t have much of an argument. It comes back to do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
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Report Post »Chancelor32
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 4:37amWho Cares What they tip in other Countries! You live in this country and whether you like it or not, society has decided waiters and delivery drivers get tips from the customer. If you don’t like it get off your lazy A$$ and order takeout. Gas prices are out of control and I have to pay that whether you tip or not!
If a customer continuously stiffs me I put him in my Customer Training Program. I flip his pizzas upside down for the ride to his house. I may have to redeliver, but they usually get the message
Report Post »missionarydad
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 4:50am@MR_ANDERSON,
Just because it considered disrespectful in Japan has nothing to do with the United States. Here people depend on tips to earn an honest income and it is considered respectful of the person’s service. I will take our costumes and practices any day over any other culture at least the America I grew up in. With everything going on in the world including Japan I think the overall message is God isn’t very pleased with any of us right now so the whole world may need to be reevaluating their customs and ways.
http://www.saywhatyoureallymean.blogspot.com
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 5:40amI’m with ENUFF ZENUFF. I’m a generous tipper when the service is good. The system isn’t perfect, but I’ve been on both sides, and in general pleasant service makes pleasant money. The only place I’ve been where there is no tipping and service is great is Japan. It doesn’t work that way in Europe.
Report Post »MR_ANDERSON
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 6:42am@LONG FORM IN YA FACE I do not find it disrespectful to have a conversation with those at my table about how things are different in another country. I think someone would find it disrespectful that someone was listening in on a conversation, but I think knowing how things are else where actually makes them appreciate tips, as they are not required.
@CHANCELOR32 you are an idiot and lack honor. I live in Japan, not the US, and that can be derived from my original post. Additionally, if you decide someone needs their pizza flipped because they stiff you, you are hurting the business you work for, and are no better than a union thug. You will be the demise of your own job.
@GETLIFE, You are correct, service in Japan is great. Japanese people take pride in what they do, and while they’re many things in their culture that I disagree with, service and honor is not one of them.
The whole point to think about is that tipping while socially accepted is not required. If you feel that you deserve a tip, you are working in a job that you either consciously or subconsciously think is below you. Thus you are disrespecting yourself by working there.
There are exceptions, and if you feel that you are not receiving enough pay to accomplish your job, take that to your boss. I do know some jobs are salary or min wage/hr where it is set so low that you have to live off tips, but most often those jobs are degrading to the worker.
Tipping is a form of charity, something I do not mind doing if I think the person deserves it by going above and beyond the call of what they are required to do, or if I see that person needs it. When I am in the US, I tip more than 15%, unless they show they do not deserve it.
Report Post »TheAnswerIs42
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 8:28amI don’t know about anyone else here, but I have worked in the service industry, and it made me even more determined that I tip according to how good the service is. For standard, but not exceptional service, I leave about double the tax here, or about 15% (usually closer to 16-17). For exceptional service, I give more, up to 30% at times, and I compliment them to their manager. Horrible service, feel glad if all I did was leave you a lousy $2, since I normally complain.
And no, it really doesn‘t take that much extra to move from ’standard‘ to ’exceptional’ in my book. However, if part of your earnings is supposed to be your tip, you had better work hard to earn it, just like I’ve worked hard to earn the money I am paying you with. I think many people in service industries forget they have to EARN that tip, since most places don’t automatically add it to the bill.
Someone else said something about delivery fees. I agree with them. Why should I add more than $3-5 at most as a tip, when I am already paying $2-$10, just to have some guy deliver it? If this guy doesn’t get punched for his blog, I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets sued.
Report Post »fulcrum
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 9:17amI feel tiping in restaurants at 15-20% rate is adequate, after all waiters and waitresses refill your drinks, answer to your needs and requests, and should offer a great dinning experience overall to earn that tip.
Report Post »Delivery boys, I‘m sorry but I don’t see it, all they do is bring me the food in a sack and leave;
a couple of bucks is sufficient
jhaydeng
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 9:38amI will give you three guess’ (?) what political party(remember NYC) were responsible for inconsiderate acts of cheapness? Not that you are required to get a tip, but I think we have all been there a time or two. Bottom line, never expect a tip!!!!
Report Post »ron.brown
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 9:57am@ BILLCRAPBUSTER….Tipping is a scam. Business owners have already been paid for the service. Get your friggin 15% from them. What is the tip for?
Tipping is NOT a scam…I work in the service industry and I DO NOT get paid minimum wage. Like most everyone else in the industry I have to work my a** off (which I don’t mind doing) so that I get a good tip.
This is not a LIB or CON thing…it’s a pay thing…The reason for the tip is to show appreciation for the good service you recieved which will in turn keep you coming back agaon and again.
The reason that we don’t get minimum wage is so that you can enjoy your meal at a reasonable price ,which will also keep you coming back.
I know times are tough right now but don’t be selfish…it will come back to 10 fold!
Report Post »black9897
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 10:31amI work at dominos as a driver, and 2-3 bucks is the average. anything 4 and up is good. Granted we get paid 6.50 an hour and I‘m not sure how much this guy get’s paid or any other factors, but I wouldn’t be complaing about 3 bucks.
And yeah, there is a UK family in my town and they never tip. Most of the people from other countries don’t seem to tip.
Report Post »bjc535
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 10:50amCharacter plays a role in the amount you get as a tip. And delivery people generally do not get the 15% that table servers get because they are just dropping off, they are not serving for a period of time, making sure your needs are met.
That being said I think businesses that deliver, should conciser that. I know a guy that took a food delivery job, and the experience was enough to quit that job and find another….He did the right thing, he didnt like it so he moved on.
Report Post »garyandtricia
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 11:20amComplain about someone GIVING you something, brilliant. This is what we have to change in America, people expecting others to give them things.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 11:48amIn America, we tip for waiting and delivery services. It’s not charity or a gift or free money. It’s part of the system. If you DON‘T tip then YOU’RE the one expecting something for free.
someone made a good point. if they paid all the servers and delivery guys minimum wage the the price you would pay for the goods would go up considerably.
We tip in America. If you don’t want to tip then move to Japan with that other moron in this thread.
Report Post »Smith523
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 11:59amMaybe if the economy was booming people would be more inclined to tip….I am just saying!!
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 12:08pmIf you can’t afford to tip, you can’t afford to eat at a restaurant.
you think your waiter wants something for nothing when, in fact, it’s you who takes price cut on the food and ducks the “exchange” which is tipping for service.
If you don’t want to tip, go to McDonald’s.
Also, CHURCH PEOPLE NEVER TIP
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 12:22pmwe always tip, figure wait staff is learning, but we have had terrible service everywhere lately; meals served different times, wrong orders, running out of drink and unable to locate staff for refill, when done eating have to wait long time for check. These problems seem to happen everytime everywhere now. sometimes we feel like not leaving a tip, but we always do.
Report Post »FormerLib
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 12:33pmHey, Mr Blogger:
Report Post »If i call your employer and order a sandwich for 6 dollars, and you do what he hired you to do, which is bring it to me, what have you done to merit a 15% pricer increase on my part? Now, if you brought me a plate, set the table for me and cleaned up my mess, I might toss you a tip of 15-20 percent, depending on how good a job you did. But 15% entitlement for just doing your job? Get real or go find another job. You don’t have a gun to your head forcing you to make deliveries, do you? Tipping is done in reward for excellent or exceptional service, not just doing what you’re supposed to do.
Ruler4You
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 12:48pmIntimidating customers seems to be a bit counter productive, IMHBLO. Maybe it’s just me.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 1:13pmWhy do you think that you should pay the menu price for something AND have the price of delivering it thrown in? You’re tipping for an additional service.
Why do you want something for free, commie?
Report Post »MR_ANDERSON
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 1:15pmI stand by my idea that tipping, at its roots, is a form of disrespect. I don’t argue that prices might be higher if it were not for that, but again:
If you feel that you deserve a tip, you are working in a job that you either consciously or subconsciously think is below you. Thus you are disrespecting yourself by working there.
or
If I feel that you deserve a tip, I am either consciously or subconsciously thinking you are in a job that is below you. Thus I feel you deserve more.
Gratuity
[gruh-too-i-tee, -tyoo-]
–noun, plural -ties.
1. a gift of money, over and above payment due for service, as to a waiter or bellhop; tip.
Tip
[tip]
-noun, -verb, tipped, tip·ping.
1. a small present of money given directly to someone for performing a service or menial task; gratuity
Menial
[mee-nee-uhl, meen-yuhl]
–adjective
1. lowly and sometimes degrading:
Either way, I stick to the social standard in the US, unless proven otherwise, and that goes for going above and below 15%.
Report Post »MR_ANDERSON
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 1:30pmLMAO @BIBLE QUOTIN‘ SCIENCE FEARIN’ CONSERVATIVE AMERICAN
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 1:13pm
Why do you think that you should pay the menu price for something AND have the price of delivering it thrown in? You’re tipping for an additional service.
Why do you want something for free, commie?
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Yea, because the owner of the business wants you to pay for the food; then walk into the kitchen grab the food out of the fridge; then cook it; then put it on a plate; and then take it to your table; and then eat it.
BUT WAIT THERE’S MORE, now you clean your table, pots/pans, and plates/silverware; put them back on the shelf; then take the trash to the dumpster on your way out.
When I go to a restaurant…
I expect my food to be cooked;
I expect my food to be brought to my table;
I expect my tables and eating utensils to be clean;
I expect someone else to take out the trash.
I expect a business to wrap the costs of these services and included it into the bill.
If in the time I am at a restaurant, the service is friendly, funny, conversationally adept, or does anything above and beyond the service they are paid to perform by the owner, they deserve a tip.
However what you just showed above is the problem most have with tipping, that being people think they deserve it right from the start, just like people think they deserve stuff from the government.
Now that I’ve said that, you sound like you’re the commie in this discussion, at least a union type.
Report Post »Professional Infidel
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 1:43pmI,ll give you a tip, “Don’t play on the freeway”. Worth far more than warns left in my wallet after buying GAS!!!
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:32pmHey Anderson, notice that I said “delivered” as in delivery boy taking something to a person’s residence not going into a resturant and eating. and if people expect a tip it’s because the industry is structured that way and not because they feel the job is beneath them. They eat dogs in some other countries too. Why don‘t you order a dog burger next time you don’t tip. Clearly you’ve never worked in a job where you made up your pay in tips.
Hilarious that you think it’s more disrespectful to tip your server than to not. Hope someone uses the 3 second rule on you.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:15pmIt’s been a while since I worked in a restaurant but it was less than ten years ago and the servers were paid $2.13 an hour by the business and made the rest up in tips. They made better than minimum wage because most people tip but according to your logic, $2.13 should be plenty unless they kiss your bottom too. They’re EXPECTED to make the difference in tips. You don’t even understand the system you are criticizing.
Tipping is part of having something delivered and going to a sit down restaurant. The fact that you are a selfish cheapskate doesn’t change that no matter how much you think that tipping is a hand out. Tipping is the norm. the CHURCH TIPPING idea that you have is the exception.
Church people come in after service on Sundays in large groups and they take up whole sections and sit and talk for a long time and then leave garbage tips because they have the same self righteous outlook on tipping that you have, oblivious to the actual economics of it.
Report Post »gotea
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:55pmThe ignorance of people when it comes to tipping is astonishing. You HAVE NOT PAID for the service in any way. $2.13 an hour chief, that is what people get paid where I am, and most others. That goes to the USA, the tip is all you have to live on. Idiots think it is optional. It is the last bastion of true capitalism. The person who puts forth effort is rewarded and the lazy are punished. It you don’t have the cash for a tip, go somewhere else, or eat at home. Commies reward poor effort equally with the good. Tip, or stay home.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 4:09pmTip 15% for AVERAGE service and more if you feel it was worth it. It’s understood by most that the service you get in a restaurant is in exchange for a tip.
By the way, don‘t think that you’re just some random customer if you do repeat business. Servers remember you and after a couple visits the whole wait staff knows you don’t tip. And if you‘re not going to tip then you’ll notice your drink running out, your check taking a while, your order wrong and no rolls in your basket. That’s just how it is. God forbid we start talking about what can happen to your FOOD before you get it. And yes, you deserve it.
Report Post »aliengenius
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 4:56pmFirst, for all of you people not liking the tipping system perhaps you should take it up with the owners of the restaurant rather than the employees who have near zero ability to change it. Second, as an on again off again delivery person over the last 22 years I have learned a great deal about the various types of people in society. For those who care to know, I pay about $700 per month for the privilege of doing my job. This figure keeps rising with gas prices and inflation. My company charges a delivery fee to help cover these costs. It increasingly comes up short in doing so. Besides just gas, please remember that cars also require tires, brakes, batteries, maintenance, oil changes, repairs of all kinds, some of which like transmissions can cost up to $3000. Does the owner of the business pay these for us? No.
Please also remember that while you are sitting comfortably on your duff in your house we are out there sweating, freezing, getting soaked by rain and pelted by hail. We are also exposing ourselves to being killed or injured in car accidents and being robbed. We also tend to work long hours, split shifts and late nights which means we have greater difficulties spending time with our families and friends. Most of us do this for minimum wage or less. We typically don’t get raises, we don’t get vacation time, we don’t get benefits, we often don’t get holidays off and our jobs and pay are only as secure as the week to week economy. If some financial calamity happens in the world we take a pay cut IMMEDIATELY in lost business.
Why do people do this job? Some are the recent unemployed. Some are immigrants. Some had a medical or other tragedy in the family and need a second job. Some are going to college. Some are retired…and yes, some are lazy dope smokers looking for an easy job. Those are the ones that underestimate the job and usually don’t last long. I personally have started and ran 3 businesses. My IQ score is well above that required to be considered ‘smart’. I dropped out of college early out of frustration and opposition to what its become- and expensive ticket to get an unremarkable office job and to have ‘the college experience’. (TIP: You don’t have to go to college to socialize or to get too little sleep, get drunk too often or have indiscriminate sex.) I don’t like sitting on my ass all day every day at a desk. I like most people and interacting with them. I like being outside a decent portion of the day and seeing the world. I‘ve worked 80 hour weeks in an office and decided I don’t like it. I‘ve found the ’lower class’ people I work with to be much more enjoyable than their white collar counterparts. Oddly enough I find them more open minded, intellectually capable and open to dialogue and reasoned debate. Yes this was/is surprising to me as well. I think its because these folks get by on their wits and not their credentials. I’m glad I had the opportunity to discover this.
Remember, food deliver
Report Post »Mikhail Kennedy
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 7:32pmI drive taxi in a small city and I know my customers. I will usually take the fare that I know tips well over the one that doesn’t. However I find that my main choice is to pick the customer who actually has some manners. No amount of tip is worth the abuse that drunk idiots can dole out. I have to, on occasion, throw people out of my cab because of their rudeness of lack of respect for my property. Thankfully we are busy enough that I don’t have to put up with that nonsense. It is my business and the customer is not always right, so I refuse them service.
Report Post »Jesse Tampa, FL
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 7:34pmDude,with that attitude, I‘m guessing you’ve eaten your share of biological condiments.
Report Post »mimitweetin
Posted on April 30, 2011 at 11:22pmThe last I heard servers made $2.01 per hour plus tips. In addition to serving customers, they have to stay and clean their section and usually have sidework before, during and after their shift. If you haven‘t served you are probably surprised to hear they aren’t getting the standard minimum wage. If they do a good job then tip them well.
Report Post »Crowley
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 12:52amThis isn’t about tipping waiters; its about tipping delivery. The 15% doesn’t apply the same. 2-3 bucks is standard for delivery, but as a delivery person, you have regulars that you can establish a rapport with. Sure there will be people that are immune to your personality, but that‘s because they’ve made up their mind to tip poorly and your extra effort is an inconvenient source of guilt(whether they admit it or not). You can make great money in the service industry. You just have to realize that many people truly appreciate good service and will more than make up for poor tippers.
@ bible thumper yadda yadda
I don’t doubt your story about the church group tipping poorly. It happens. But you clearly have an agenda to take “church people” down a notch. The same goes to the people saying the exact thing about “liberals”.
By the way, when it comes to ordering for delivery when roads are dangerous. Either make your own food, or make sure you give a damn good tip. Don’t make someone risk a costly collision for less than 10 bucks.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 6:04amHow much more work did this punk have to do for an $80 or $90 order versus a $15 dollar order???
I’m so tired of the tipping BS. I work hard for my money too and I don’t want to just hand it out!!
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 6:27amTo me, deliveries and waiters are 2 different affairs.
If restuarants didn’t charge a $3 delivery charge BEFORE the tip, the driver would be getting better tips. If I order a $6 sandwich and have to pay $11 after tax and delivery charage, plus a $2-$3 tip, that friggin sandwich just cost me $14!??
Waiters/Waitresses are more deserving of a 15% + tip. They are actually the ones waiting on you. The driver is just grabbing the food from the store and driving around all night. I know how it works, I used to do it. And if it’s a company car or compnay paid gas (which is usually the case) then the gas prices is a moot point.
Report Post »jackrorabbit
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 9:24amWell, did he ever consider that he might have earned it through poor service? I think tipping is the best pay scale there is, and I waited tables for a long time. It keeps the food prices lower, and allows the worker to receive what they are worth. I usually received in the 18-20% range. Never did I receive a tip that low.
Report Post »jackrorabbit
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 9:25amMost people don’t know that servers only make $2.01 an hour, and make their living off of tips, so it isn’t a “scam”, it is their livelihood, just like a barber needs tips to actually make it.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:07amBelieve it or not, the “delivery charge” that you pay in addition to the menu price and the tip covers the cost of the “to-go” boxes, silverware, bags, etc. Or did you expect those materials to be thrown in for free? Commie.
Report Post »tmill26
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:59amWorking in the service industry should be a college requirement course, then maybe it would cut down on the number of cheap asses out there. Remember this rule of thumb…. Don’t F*** with the person who has access to your food… Next time you just might find a pube or a booger!!
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 12:02pmor you might not find it lol
Report Post »imjustsayn
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 12:43pmYou need to be carefull what you say about people who live off tips, and whose responsible for tipping. Most, if not all people who live off tips get paid well under minimum wage from their employer. Then after claiming their tips for taxes, the rest of their hourly pay ussually goes to taxes. I worked for years when I did not get a paycheck at all, just the tips I earned.
Report Post »be strong
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 3:05pmservers work hard for their money ( and from what i understand it’s not much) I always tip 20%, It has to be really bad service for me to cut it down.
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