‘Shut the F**k Up’: Disturbing Viral Video Shows Middle Schoolers Abusing & Threatening Bus Monitor
- Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:04pm by
Billy Hallowell
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Editor’s note: We have added a webcast at the bottom of this post featuring Billy Hallowell and Scott Baker from The Blaze discussing this disturbing story.
Update: We’ve also posted a new interview with the bus monitor and her call for the students to be punished. You can see that here.
Prepare to see a disturbing video of young people at their worst. This clip of middle schoolers allegedly abusing a bus monitor is so disgusting, so bothersome that it will leave many wondering what has gone awry in our society. Of course, it is merely one of the many tragic, anecdotal instances of human cruelty that we so often see today. The unbelievable clip is painful to watch, as it shows alleged students from Greece Athena Middle School in Rochester, New York (my hometown) take their abuse to horrific levels.
The woman purportedly shown in the video, Karen Huff Klein, 68, is victimized incessantly, as students spew insults and obscenities at her. Throughout the clip, the children can be heard in the background calling her “fat,” threatening her and making fun of her hairstyle, among other sentiments. Astonishingly, the abuse continues for more than 10 minutes.
Watch the disturbing video (caution: language) below:
According to the Brighton-Pittsford Post, the video was originally posted on Facebook and was later uploaded to YouTube. The version presented above is not the original and was re-posted on the video platform by an individual with the username “CapitalTrigga.”
WHAM-TV has more about the incident and the clip, which has gone viral and is beginning to attract national attention:
You can see some students on camera and hear others off camera taunting the woman about her weight.
The students also talk about threatening to go over to the bus monitor’s house and steal from her.
Greece Central School District has asked YouTube to take down the video.
Spokeswoman Laurel Heiden said their bullying response and prevention team was activated and all students involved will face disciplinary action.
It’s unclear when this incident happened.
The school district believes all the students are in middle school.
Of course, this description is mild when compared to hearing the actual words used in the clip. As can be viewed and heard above, the children told Klein that she looks like a troll and that she should “shut the f**k up” when she tried to defend herself.
Here‘s a selection of some of the other grotesque comments that were thrown Klein’s way in the first minute of the clip:
“Fat ass.”
“Oh my God, you’re so fat.”
“You take up like the whole entire seat.”
“Put those glasses back on. I can’t stand looking at your face.”
When the woman tells the kids that she is crying (presumably as a result of their attacks) they refuse to relent. In fact, one kid can be heard saying that she’s shedding tears because “she probably misses her box of Twinkies.” Here’s more:
“You have refluxes of an elephant,” another child can be heard saying.
“She‘s going to pick out which kid she’s going to rape next,” another quipped.
“She’s going to die of diabetes, because she’s so damn fat,” said another.
At moments, the youths even poked and attempted to touch the woman, as she sat, for the most part quietly, and allowed their abuse to continue.
“If I stabbed you in the stomach, my knife would go through you like butter because it’s all f**king water,” another kid said.
Among the comment that hurt the most, Klein told WHAM-TV that one child’s statement that she is so ugly that her “kids should kill themselves” was particularly hurtful. Her son committed suicide 10 years ago. Reporter Patrice Walsh tweeted about the interview, claiming that the incident occurred this past Monday:
“Greece Police say they are concerned for safety of students involved and may put officers outside their homes,” Walsh also wrote on the social media platform.
“We really have to focus on fact, and we are very concerned about (their) safety. These are most likely 12, 13, 14-year-old kids,” Steve Chatterton of Greece Police Department told YNN. “There’s people that are posting their addresses online, so we as a police department are concerned about that.”
YNN continues, highlighting how Klein is reacting in the wake of the incident:
Klein described the four 7th and 8th graders who harassed her as partners in crime. She said they have been acting up the past couple months but said they’ve never attacked her like this before.
In hindsight, Klein said she should’ve taken the phone away from the student. She said she does want the kids who were involved disciplined but said she‘ll leave it to the district to decide what’s appropriate.
Klein said there were about 30 other students on the bus when this was all happening when I asked how they reacted she said most were just talking amongst themselves and ignored it.
A second purported video is also mentioned by the Post. See it here (caution: language):
Klein has worked with the district for 23 years, WHEC-TV reports. She was a bus driver before becoming a bus matron two and a half years ago. School officials and local police are both continuing to investigate, as members of the community voice their outrage.
This story has been updated.
Editor’s note: Scott Baker and Billy Hallowell from The Blaze discussed this disturbing story in a webcast that aired live on Wednesday afternoon. You can watch the recorded version below:
UPDATE: Mediaite has posted this heartwarming little kernel of information:
While you can always depend on those attempting to maneuver puberty being little monsters, we can also depend on the kindness of strangers. After the video went viral, a fundraiser was set up online to give the monitor, Karen Klein, a vacation. The goal was $5,000. As of this writing (6pm on June 20th), it’s already nearing $30,000! That’s nearly twice Klein’s yearly income!
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Comments (1180)
scorpion1
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:42pmSomehow this does not surprise me. The school knows which bus this is and I would bring in every parent whose kid rides this bus and shows the parents this video. Then every kid would never be allowed back into my school. If any parfent has a problem with this we can step outside. This all reflects on the parents. I guess when you have trash raising trash this is what you get. Good luck Rochester because you are going to need it. Also, we need to get the federal governmednt out of the education system, turn it back over to the state and bring discipline back into the system…
Scorpion1
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:52pmYou are wrong in assuming every parent of each of these children are ‘trash’. Kids follow other kids; even good kids sometimes do bad by following other kids.
I agree with you that every kid involved should be required to attend a meeting at the school with their parents, but I disagree with you that they should never let those kids back in school. You give them a chance just like everyone should be given a chance. When you toss kids out of school, you are adding to the certainty that they will never amount to anything and that is plain stupid. You do discipline, and hopefully they learn from the discipline.
000degrees
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:55pmWhen respect leaves town this is what you get. Liberal, moral decay of society. Marines died for these little shitbags?????? It’s shameful
Report Post »PansyShare
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:56pmIt wouldn’t matter. Kids like these learn this stuff from their parents.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:05pmPlease oh please let me monitor that bus next…. pretty please!
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:10pmNot sure what I’d do, but it would be quite severe punishment for being this hateful to an adult for no cause.
Report Post »These are the same type kids I see running around in stores, while the mothers don’t notice a thing. Must be the same way at home, as to why they are the way they are, hateful brats, and why mothers & dads are constantly fighting to set an example for little ones. Just get ‘em.
Ex-Democrat
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:11pmRespect starts at home. These kids never learned it and that IS the parent’s fault. And yes, these kids should be expelled from the school system and not allowed back. If they want to go to school , let their parent’s pony up for “special school” for these cretins. Would serve both the parents and the kids right.
Report Post »Wizerman
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:16pmJHRUSKY…You and like minded fools who think like you are the reason these little bastards act how they do!…Lets hug em and tell em everything is ok…Who is going to hug that woman?…Who is going to stand up and defend her?..for doing what ?..her job?….These kids should be kicked out of school and face assault chrages!…You commented locking them in there room after smacking them would indicate bad parenting….NO what indicates bad parenting is a child who acts like this in public…If that woman was my family I would have been on that bus with a baseball bat!
Report Post »Red Meat
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:19pmToday’s disgusting bullies, tomorrows zombies.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:20pm“Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.” ~ GOD
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:21pm“You shall rise before the gray headed and honor the presence of an old man, and fear your God: I am the LORD” ~ GOD
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:23pm@ ex-democrat
You would take away school for these kids for an instance of very bad judgement and hurtful actions? You do not believe in teaching, only punishing? You actually condone destroying someone’s life over this? Sure, it’s bad, but their life? Many parents cannot pony up for private school so you’d be condemning these kids to a life of poverty and crime with very little chance to dig themselves out. It just never ceases to amaze me how mean-spirited and ignorant some of the Blaze posters here can be! Discipline and consequences for very bad actions are expected, but to virtually destroy a life is utterly ridiculous! I hope no one ever took your life chances away for making a bad mistake, assuming you have ever made a bad mistake, or, at least, will admit same.
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:23pmI wish I could have been there, but you can’t do now days like you could when I grew up, those little sh*ts need to have their faces slapped, or behinds beaten….. Children shall be your oppressors, these kids will get bigger.
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:24pmKADSTER01
Report Post »Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:14pm
Oh my God! Where do I begin. She sits there and takes it. I would thrash the sh1t out of every one of those disrespectful little snot-nosed punks. They are doing what they’re doing because no one ever has………………………………… AMEN!
Thomas Paine
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:26pm@jhrusky
That is BS.
Report Post »Children are a mirror image of their parents.
Parents that live by a moral standard have children that behave with morals.
These children are the product of irresponsible adults. These little tyrants most
likely spend all their free time on Xbox online. The parents need to be held more
accountable than the kids. This should be a multi million dollar lawsuit & it should be public.
jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:28pm@ wizerman
You are simply a horse’s a55.
I never said “lets hug em and tell em everything is ok”
These are middle school kids. They need to be punished, no doubt, and I have stated such. But to want their lives destroyed by kicking them out of school makes no sense at all. Of course, you’re probably one of those “christians” here who would shoot dead a middle school child for stealing a candy bar.
“You commented locking them in there room after smacking them would indicate bad parenting”
Wrong. I commented BEATING them and locking them in a room for 6 months was bad parenting and it is. I am not against spanking, and I am not against punishment. I am against beating a child of any age. Perhaps beating children helps you get off.
“If that woman was my family I would have been on that bus with a baseball bat!”
It‘d be fun to break their skulls open with your bat wouldn’t it?
yanki161
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:29pmBy law, they can’t be banned from school. But they sure as heck can be banned from the bus and should be. Indefinitely.
Report Post »Saving_the_Republic.com
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:29pmOf course it doesnt surprise you! This is what the media and liberal minds WANT. They want the disconnect, disrespect, vile attacks etc.
What you are witnessing America is pure EVIL at work!
Report Post »ONLY4UANDME
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:31pmThis lady was probably donating her time.
Report Post »Not only did they not respect her, they treated her less than human.
Absolutely no excuse for this. Kick them out of school and let mommy find a private school and let her pay for the education. This has got to stop, and there is no other way.
KICK THEM OUT!!!!
red_white_blue2
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:39pmPrecisely when you have welfare state parents that can’t even get married before just having kids like rabbits, this is exactly what you get. Sure am glad we are so PC these days and accept these parents for all their faults and inabilities to be an adult!
Report Post »Ex-Democrat
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:39pm@JHRUSKY
I never made a mistake like this because I grew up respecting others. I still do. I respect everyone until such time as they earn my disrespect. These kids are beyond the rim. I never said they shouldn’t be allowed an education on that they should not be allowed back into the public system where they have proven they are both a distraction and very real danger to others. Let their parents pay for their education somewhere else‘ somewhere where this type of behavior wouldn’t be tolerated for a second and watch how good and involved the parents suddenly become where it’s their money on the line. Wizerman is right when he said that mindsets like yours are what creates monsters like this. Someday maybe you’ll grow a pair of pragmatics and join us in the real world.
Report Post »HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:40pmi have said all aolnog this exists in MOST schools. These are little trayvon wanna-bes, gonna-bes. I keep saying we need corporal punishment and discipline at home as well as school. Id like a social shift from coddeling to public humiliation and disgracing of parents that turn monsters loose on the rest of us. Wanna bet the parents dont support the school but cry about illegal taping of dey yoots.
Report Post »HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:43pmalmost forgot, from article… they are concerned about the “students” and are putting guards up at their homes. Can i puke now?
Report Post »cant afford guards on the bus, although unless im stupid they put the lady on the bus because the kids were monsters already. PC progressivism and god hating teachers and administrators have destroyed this country. when do we call them on the results of their destruction.?
Cavallo
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:47pmWhat horrid little monsters. Our society is seriously degenerating.
Report Post »SLOWBIDEN
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:50pmYea JHRUSKY- these kids should be expelled. The world needs janitors to.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:56pm@KADSTER01
Report Post »Believe me, I felt the same way watching the assault of these kids, but sometimes common sense tells you, in the end they would win and you’d be in jail for assaulting a child, regardless of what they were saying. Takes some restraint, but has to be done.
Live_Free_orDie
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:56pmDitto @Wizerman
Report Post »@JHRUSKY is a JA!…don’t hold these kids responsible for their actions…nah…give them a hug and tell them you better not do that again. That’s why we have what we have in this Country! BTW if that was my kids ever did this…they would never ride the bus again and walk to school…if they were able to walk!
jakartaman
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:59pmVery well said!
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:00pmIf my kid was on that bus, we would have a come to Jesus meeting. Then, we would go to the principle and give her a copy of the video and deman every kid be brought in and questioned individually. Then, some serious ass whippings should occur.
Report Post »Ray2447
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:08pmWith all the revolutionary Marxist indoctrination that goes on in taxpayer funded classrooms, it’s not hard to understand how this disrespectful attack on an authority figure could happen. And this kind of behavior is just the beginning. If middle school punks decide to go on to college and university the Marxist-Leninist revolutionary propaganda gets even worse as shown in “Marxist Valley College” at Youtube. . http://tinyurl.com/44btbq8 College and university teacher’s podiums are the Commie spawning grounds of all kinds of anti-social discontent, leading to protest and occupation of major public areas. Irresponsibility, and disrespect for authority, is the forte of Socialist punks everywhere.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:15pmWhat no one seems to be noting is the PLEASURE these kids are getting out of being this mean and disrespectful to another person. They are happy, enjoying themselves by being cruel. A person, regardless of age, does not learn this behavior in a day. They have been allowed to get away with this kind of cruelty too long, at school and at home.
Yes, they should be expelled but if they had decent parents they would also get a real butt whipping and every single pleasure in their miserable little lives taken away for months. They should also be required to stand before the whole school at an assembly and apologize to this woman.
They should also be very glad that that lady is not my Mother.
Report Post »Stu D. Baker-Hawk
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:18pm@JRHUSKY: No, sir, YOU are the problem, and those like you who say give the darling little angels another chance. These ‘kids’ are MONSTERS who belong in Reform School. Remember the concept of Reform School? Those who were sent there DESERVED their fate. If they were smart, they got their life back on track and in very short order. If they weren’t so smart, they contined their ugly path to ruin, but they did so apart and AWAY from the normal kids who took school seriously. No, these kids should be pulled out of school and placed with others of their kind… to include YOUR kids, if you have any (and God help society if you do).
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:19pmYou don’t have to expel the kids from school just ban them from riding the bus for two weeks first offense one month second offense and the rest of the school year third offense. Fact is the school bus should be a zero tolerence zone for misbehavior it the most dangerous part of school. At anytime a distraction could cause an accident resulting in injurys and or deaths. Make the parents be responsible for getting them to and from school TRUST ME when the parents have to re-arranged thier schedules they ‘ll be put the hammer down on their childs behavior.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:19pm@Thomas Paine “Children are mirror images of their parents.” Actually this is not necessarily true in this place called Rochester.. I’m from there… It’s a strange place with some of the meanest kids in the country… A lot of these kids are raised better and have good parents.. It is a very cliquey place and kids are 2 faced.. At home angles of their parents eye and when they get to school pressured to get the respect of their peers including if it means berating or attacking others… It’s an exttremely cliquey place… Kids are home inside most of the winter and don’t learn reality.. It’s not the city, it‘s not the country it’s La la land… Passive people who are not city people or country people move to rochester suburbs and raise kids. close enough to the convenience of the city, but far enough from the sefl-reliance necessary in the country… All these types of people move there thinking they will raise kids in a good place but because of themselves, they’re kids are not guided well and end up worse than their parents not reflections of them… My parents were the same in rochester.. Great people with good morals but averse to conflict, and didn’t want to face their childrens problems head on.. Just let the school and professionals fix us… My parents are great but spineless like a lot of parents out there.. The kids in turn, have a free for all,
Report Post »SocialistSlayer
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:19pmI know a poplar mantra is The Children are our Future, If this is true America is doomed!
Report Post »LetUsReason
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:24pmThese children will grow up to be drug addicts, porn addicts, criminals, and the dregs of society (if they are not one or more of these already). They will have broken homes, ruined careers, failed marriages (or relationships), and prison sentences. They will have no love, no joy, and no hope for feelings of fulfillment when they reflect back as their own lives reach an end.
The parents, to a degree, maintain some responsibility to rear them in ways of respect and discipline and personal responsibility. If they do this, then the judgment is the child’s to bear. When the kids leave home (18), they are the only ones accountable to themselves.
While they are at this age and behaving this callously, they are already on a treacherous downward spiral of self-destruction. I would not hesitate, after seeing this video, to implement proper measures to discipline these kids. Behavior like this does not warrant a warning. They get none. If I was the parent of these children there would be hell to pay, especially if this was a trend long in development. No physical punishment, though. They would be cleaning their school’s toilets for a year. Their wardrobe would be replaced (sold) for something more humble in its place. There would be no television, no games, and no computer. They would be writing book reports that I would assign them, penalty of lateness or non-completion would result in fewer privileges. I am positive behavior and attitude would improve.
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:30pmReplace her with me any day. I have no problem throwing these little POS straight off the bus and making them walk home. Call your Mommy and Daddy. I would do the same everyday. That is being EXTREMELY nice.
Report Post »needmoinfo
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:38pmCall in the parents. Show them the video. Advise them one of these children is theirs. Starting on the very next school day all students will be advised that any abuse of school buses, drivers or monitors will cause them to be permanently lose their privilege to ride on any school vehicle for school classes, activities, sports etc. Not just for the year. Warn all parents especially showing evidence to current offenders, then all students, then execute. No appologies excepted. The school may be legally obligate to educate but not obligated to briing them anywhere.
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:39pmWhen I was in school we were reminded regularly that riding the bus was a PRIVILEDGE.
Those brats need to spend the next twelve months walking in the snow and the heat.
Report Post »SANTORUM4PRESIDENT
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:51pmI don’t know that I would go as far to say that the kids in this video get their attitudes from the parents, although I’m not not saying it either. This whole story really makes me sick…. how anyone could treat another human being that way is beyond comprehension. I really hurt for the victim in the video… We need to pray for her and the kids. They need help.
Report Post »Cavallo
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:52pm@Cesium, Then banning the children from riding the bus might spur those parents to action. Like a previous poster mentioned, if the parents have to rearrange their schedule to get the kids to school then there will be a reckoning at home. These parents cannot say that their kids are angels now that they have it on a recording. The School Bus is a privilege, not a right. Although in this day and age, with anything and everything becoming a “right”, taking the bus might soon become one as well.
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:52pmThis is a product of a liberal – Godless society (NY) and public school. If you live in an area like this and send your children to a public school, this is what it looks like. Children tend to follow the lowest common denominator. That‘s why you should pick your children’s friends (forbid certain ones), and you can only do that if they are not in a public school setting.
Report Post »havsumtea
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:55pmI couldn’t agree more on every level!!
Report Post »frust@ted
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:00pmI think you are all being a little to hard on Jhursky and taking him out of context. Also i find it very hypoctical and pious that so many people responding to Jhursky speak to their great upbringing and moral superiority and then call him a name and bully him. Here is a list of whom I am talking about.
Wizerman
Exdemocrat
Livefreeordie
studbaker
guveusjustice
dorightfearnothing
how can you speak about how repectful you all are and then use phrases like “Were you dropped on your head”
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:00pmjrhusky and everyone – these kids are in middle school. The are likely not 16 yet, although some may be. Our public education system MUST educate every one under 16. They can’t just kick them out of school and clap the dust off their hands and be done. They are forced to deal with these kids.
There should be meetings for each of the kids with the parents, separately from the other kids. Besides any punishments, which I think there definately should be strict ones, the school should present their expectations and have consequences. Like, we are keeping a very close eye on this kid and if this kid does anything like this again he/she will be placed in an alternative setting. Go to the special school or the night school with the other delinquents. The school did this with my grandaughter who was doing idiotic things in school with her friends and boy did she straighten up fast after having to do a few months of night school with the REALLY bad kids.
Report Post »TheDan
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:02pm@JHRUSKY: I was caught at school under the influence of marijuana in the 10th grade. I was expelled and sent to the “special” school a.k.a. Continuation High School. My parents also made me attend Narcotics Anonymous meetings for a year (even though I wasn’t an addict). After a school year of being banished (yes the school was in the middle of dairy farms, even though we lived in a suburban city of Southern California) and associating with kids that had criminal records, I decided that I didn’t want that for my life. I finished my expulsion there, went back to the regular high school in 11th grade with the fear of God and my parents in me, I worked my butt off to stay out of trouble and graduate. I am now very fortunate to have a solid career with a good reputation in my industry. The fact that I was held accountable for my actions made me who I am today. I cringe to think what I would have become had I not had to “pay” for my bad behavior when I was young. Yes, kids make poor choices, but that doesn’t mean that they should not be held accountable for those choices; that is how they learn.
These kids need to be held accountable for their bad behavior; and the punishment needs to be severe enough to create the change. It has been said that significant change requires a significant event. In this case, I think expulsion for a school year is appropriate.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:16pmAh, Michelle Obama should be proud!
Proud of all the hate-mongering, all the elitist, holier-than-thou,
food-nazi work she has done.
She has taught children, not only that it is good to exercise, but also,
that if you are overweight or fat, you are LESS OF A PERSON,
your life is worth less, and is meaningless. (Ask Oprah about how Mrs. Obama feels about fat people “waddling” about the White House)
We should also thank Mayor Bloomberg & Michael Moore, & other states & municipalities that are spreading this elitist hatred!
Sure, I weigh more than I’d like. But, that’s MY CHOICE !
I would rather have 67 great years of bacon-milkshakes, doughnuts, fried twinkies, corndogs, buttered popcorn, & 32oz sodas, than 112 years of arugula!
& ya know what?
That is MY GOD-GIVEN RIGHT !
There’s also a large degree of age-ism going on! We went from catering to the ‘baby boomers’ to catering to the “millennials.“ We are discounting the ”X-Gen” who are having to clean up this mess, WHILE dealing with the upcoming hellions given us by the left! Too many companies are passing over the 40-somethings, to hire the 30-somethings, BECAUSE of AGE, while it is our life’s savings that was wiped out in this mess! Just toss us aside & hire the kid.
The left has also taught kids, when you don’t like someone… The appropriate response is to ATTACK.
When you disagree with them, tell them to STFU!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
“…From Every Mountainside, LET FREEDOM RING!”
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:20pm@ thedan
I do not disagree with you that these children need punishment and something they will remember. Where we disagree is expulsion. If 3 or 5 days off works because that requires the parents to find a way to have them taken care of during the day (and while not all will, some surely will be sure their child is with an adult). Removing them from the bus for a period of time also seems fine as it, again, requires the parent to get involved. However, an entire year of expulsion from school seems far too drastic. Now, if this even has happened time and time again, I would agree that it’s time for expulsion.
That you were solid and mature enough to overcome a mistake is commendable, but probably does not mean every child will be. These are still children no matter how hurtful they have been. Children are some of the meanest beings on this planet towards each other … and even children of Christian homes even though many here choose to deny that.
Report Post »vngstr
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:22pmHave them arrested for harassment. That will teach the little terds! The bus driver should have stopped, called the sherifs, and have them arrested…… Cuffed, jailed and crying that their little terds are just that. No respecting pos’s…
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:27pm@ live_free_or_die
“@JHRUSKY is a JA!…don’t hold these kids responsible for their actions…nah…give them a hug and tell them you better not do that again.”
I defy you to show where I stated any of the nonsensical idiocy that you are attributing to me.
Put up or shut up. Let’s see what a real genuine honest person you really are. Will you accept responsibility for the LIES you just insinuated that I said and admit your error, or will you find an excuse or attack again?
I’ll await your response.
Report Post »derby
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:27pmScorpion, I believe you are off base here. The government takes these kids for 180 days a year and provides very little meaningful discipline and NO moral training whatsoever. The values they do teach are not based on any moral authority. Instead, they are told everything is relative and right and wrong is whatever you “feel” it is. Self-esteem and feelings reign as supreme values. So bullying is “wrong”, but sex out of wedlock is not unless it is “unprotected”. The list could go on and on related to what modern day society deems right and wrong, but when you take away the Creator’s standard, you just have invented human standards. Humanists have to reject God‘s standards because there are too many things they don’t like, but it should not surprise us when kids choose to indulge their twisted nature. Add to that that the rest of the time, they are under media influence that tells them anything goes and worse. If you have a teen, you know that even if you ban almost all media like we do, our perverted culture slides through. It used to be that schools, churches, neighborhoods, organizations, etc., backed up what parents taught. Now, almost any parent will tell you, we are under seize. Short of completely withdrawing from the culture and moving somewhere remote to live off the land, your kids are hugely influenced by this rotten culture. I’m not totally excusing the parents, but it affects even good parents who try really hard to raise decent kids.
Report Post »Sugabee
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:29pmI have not watched the video, but let me just put in my 2 cents on parents: NO-ONE can judge a parent by the actions of a minor child! I have FIRST-HAND experience in this! You can raise a child with all of the morals you expect your child to behave by, with negative and positive consequences, and if THE CHILD CHOOSES to behave contrary to your teaching/discipline, that is their free will!! Every child is different in their personality. To say that it’s the fault of the parents is a blanket generalization. Yes, there are “bad” parents, but there are also “good” parents who have kids who will not obey no matter what discipline they are given. – “Judge not, lest YOU be judged”
Report Post »Flip5150
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:29pmWhere is the bus driver during all of this? If I were to catch my kids talking to an adult like that they would have a hard time sitting for awhile.
Report Post »rambosharley
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:29pmI couldn’t work with the GOVERNMENT school system. I would be in jail for smacking the crap out of those snot nosed BRATS from HE!!. I would have NEVER acted this way when I was young…HE!! I wouldn’t act like that now. My parents would have snatched my A$$ and kicked it all the way home and then the punishment would have BEGAN! WE HAVE GOT TO GET THE LIBERAL COMMIES OUT OF GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS AND QUICK!
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:31pm@ stu d. baker-hawk
“No sir, YOU are the problem, and those like you who say give the darling little angels another chance.”
All children should be given a 2nd chance when they screw up. Punishment should certainly be a part of the equation, but the 2nd chance should be there after amends are made.
“No, these kids should be pulled out of school and placed with others of their kind… to include YOUR kids, if you have any (and God help society if you do).”
You quite obviously know nothing about me, my life, or my child. Your _ASS_umptions are, as usual, just that.
Report Post »Stu D. Baker-Hawk
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:31pm@ FRUST@TED: Where in my post did I cite a moral superiority as you accused me of doing? Answer: NO WHERE! So the question must be asked: Were YOU dropped on YOUR head?
Report Post »TheDan
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:33pm@JHRUSKY: I agree with you that even children of christian parents are mean. I know this personally, because I have 3 kids that have gone to private christian schools. All of them have been treated poorly by another child at one time or another. However, the school was quick to discipline the children appropriately. And, when the action called for it, they were expelled; one example is when a student had called the principal a racially derogatory term.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:33pmThree days of in school suspension for everyone she can id. Press charges on the punk that touched her with the book. EVERY kid on the bus writes an essay about bullying and acceptance is condoning.
Report Post »Cavallo
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:34pm@deeberj, If you ban these kids from the bus, then not only would the parents take more interest in their kid’s bad behavior, it also removes them from a certain subset of extremely negative peer pressure. From what I remember of my own childhood experiences on a the school bus, cooping kids up for 45 mins to an hour can create some very temping situations for rowdy and uncouth behavior simply out of boredom. Removing them from the bus system is likely the best solution to this problem.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:36pmAlways a shock to be confronted with reality. NEEDMOINFO has a fair solution, except didn’t go far enough. Each of these teens, and probably the whole school, needs lessons about how to relate to and have compassion for others. They’ve obviously missed the bus (pun intended). The perpetrators need a firm dose of punishment from which only their continued good behavior will release them (monitored detention during the “fun” classes, with daily papers to write – which will be reviewed by the bus monitor, and graded). In the meantime, they must be angels on that bus. An immediate personal apology is in order, with the parents standing beside their “spawn.” Like one post pointed out, only by being held responsible for their behavior will these black hearted children recover. Society does not need them in their current form.
Report Post »killertofu
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:40pm@JRHUSKY
I don‘t think the majority of the posers here understand what you’re trying to convey. In fact, I think you’re all in violent agreement up until the point of expulsion. You know…if most of you did get your way, and these kids were expelled and subsequently never received an education, can you guess who would most likely end up sopporting them through various government hand-out programs? Do we honestly really need more uneducated freeloaders voting? Best way to create a democrat is to give them other people’s money.
Report Post »Stu D. Baker-Hawk
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:41pm@ JRHUSKY:
“You quite obviously know nothing about me, my life, or my child. Your _ASS_umptions are, as usual, just that.”
Of course, of course, YOUR child is a little angel, just like the parents of those little terrors on the bus would claim until the cows came home. You know, I‘ve had it up to ’here’ with so-called parents of your ilk. Oh, and BTW, get a hair cut and lose the shades; you look like a biker-wanna-be fool!
Report Post »killertofu
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:43pmInstead of expulsion – creating more uneducated taxpayer funded leeches on society…why not give them an excess of community service? Make them give back to the community that they obviously have contributed nothing to in the past…just a thought.
Report Post »pcj
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:45pmJust tell them that they are not allowed to ride the school bus, they will be responsible for their own transportation now and next fall. When Mommy and Daddy get tired of hauling the little darlings to and from school, they may consider retraining them!
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:45pm@ jhrusky
Throwing kids out of school is not permanent. Please get off your high horse. In or out of school suspension and/or expulsion is warranted. This is not just a TEACHABLE moment for the kids to see that there is real consequences for their actions, but it will force their parents to take actions to now monitor their child and not use the school system as the main raiser and provider of the child.
If the kids don’t amount to much, it is their fault. Instead of learning from being thrown out of school and becoming an active member in civil society, they would be deciding to actively become nothing. The chance to prove oneself a model member of society is not on the school or society the the person in question.
Quite making excuse for their outrageous behavior. They want to go to college and have a good transcript, then don’t act like this. Set an example for the other kids. The learn by watching; and believe me, they are watching what they get away with.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:51pmThe reason no one stands up for another is because they wind up with their day in court. Finally financially destroyed and perhaps raped in jail. Look at Zimmerman. We need street justice. We need it now. And we will have it. We need to beat the sh t out of these unruly children and adults.
Report Post »term limits for congress
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:54pmIf these were my kids, they would not need a timeout – they’d need a defibrillator. “Within an inch of your life,…” Nah, I would go all the way. Being a loving parent, I’d bring them back, but I’d let them have a peak at the other side.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:54pmProverbs 22:6
“Raise up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it.”
God’s words, not mine.
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:54pm@ jhrusky
“All children should be given a 2nd chance when they screw up. Punishment should certainly be a part of the equation, but the 2nd chance should be there after amends are made.”
Expulsion is not permanent. The are thrown out for at least ONE year. Their second chance comes when they are forced to retake 6th or 7th grade the following year (or two years in this case seeing as it is June). When they are two years older than their class mates and are made fun of by the class as being stupid, they will now how it feels to be ridiculed.
You are making expulsion sound like life imprisonment. It isn’t. It is temporary. If they keep it up, they could risk their ability to go to college and have scholarships. I think it is a fitting punishment. The hard work they will need to prove they are disciplined enough for college and loans will do them good. It will build character. Society should not help or make room for these kids if they have no compassion for others in society. It is the building blocks of a stable society.
Report Post »John in GA
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:54pmAbsolutely disgusting. These kids are a disgrace. I live in an area of the Atlanta suburbs where we have a lot of transplants from all over the US (including myself), and I have to say – kids from the Northeast are the worst. Arrogant, disrepectful troublemakers with little supervision. For example, some five-year-old from several blocks away (who we don’t know) wandered into our yard, intentionally hit another kid in the eye with a stick, and when his father (obnoxious, idiot New Yorker) showed up, he yelled at the kid that got hit. This guy had no idea where his five-year-old was until one of the other parents called him. If there’s a kid getting in trouble in the neighborhood, it’s a safe bet his family is from the Northeast.
Report Post »Mike N
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:56pm.
These kids should be refused bus privileges. If their parents don’t like driving their kids to school, they should be allowed the opportunity to earn the privilege back by serving as bus monitors themselves for a reasonable period of time . . . say a month.
That would give them an eyeful of what kinds of issues are created by misbehaving and disrespectful kids. Even if they don’t observe their own kids breaking the rules, deep down, they know what’s going on, and this might actually shame them into modifying behaviors.
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dugbru
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:57pmScorpian I agree with your post .. I would add 1 thing .. all of these kids would be barred from ever riding a school bus again… Their parents can then figure out how to get them around, to and from school, field trips etc.. It should be their problem not the problem to teacjhers, bus drivers aor other students….@ JHRUSKY.. You are part of the problem and reason kids behave this way.. They had their chance, and I would bet this is not the 1st time the mouthiest of these kids has been disrespectful of authority… as for ruining their lives that is for them and their parents to fix..
Report Post »dugbru
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:00pm@JR HUSKY.. I get it, which one of these kids is yours???
Report Post »killertofu
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:02pm@JOHNNYMIDKNIGHT
“Expulsion is not permanent. The are thrown out for at least ONE year. Their second chance comes when they are forced to retake 6th or 7th grade the following year (or two years in this case seeing as it is June). When they are two years older than their class mates and are made fun of by the class as being stupid, they will now how it feels to be ridiculed.
You are making expulsion sound like life imprisonment. It isn’t. It is temporary. If they keep it up, they could risk their ability to go to college and have scholarships. I think it is a fitting punishment. The hard work they will need to prove they are disciplined enough for college and loans will do them good. It will build character. Society should not help or make room for these kids if they have no compassion for others in society. It is the building blocks of a stable society.”
This is why I comment to The Blaze. I really like hearing the alternative viewpoints. I hadn’t thought of it this way, but this sounds good to me. Tack on something like community service to fill the brat’s downtime and call it a day!
Report Post »kadster01
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:02pm@oneshiner
I do understand your sentiment, and I have shared it in the past, but what are we to do? You cannot respond to the brute and the bully with words, kindness, and understanding. We have already seen the dismal failure that produces. That’s why things like this keep happening. There is a certain element that only understands one language and that is physical defeat. That’s something this particular element has apparently never experienced, given that they are being so abusive toward this sweet old woman who has taken it upon herself to monitor their useless punk a$$e$.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:04pmSo as the story unfolds we see that their home addresses have been revealed of these sh t for children. They are expierencing fear for their worthless lives. God once called for the stoneing death for children like this. I guess God was stupid. I don’t think so. I can only tell you that if I had done this to this old woman I would want someone to blo my fu ing head off. Yes thats what I said.We thank you for justice street lawmen. God Bless you.
Report Post »Ex-Democrat
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:04pm@FRUST@TED I certainly don‘t know what you’re going on about. No one attacked JHRUSKY out of the blue and I certainly didn’t attack him. No one attacked him until he attacked first by insulting other posters in his responses to them and naturally he got back exactly what he deserved. Like I said earlier; You give people respect until such time as they earn your disrespect and JHRUSKY has certainly earned people’s disrespect by engaging in preemptive ad hominem attacks. Time to grow up, take personal responsibility for your actions, thoughts, and deeds and put away the crocodile tears.
Report Post »janedough1
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:14pmThe problem here is that you are assuming that parents are raising these kids. Most parents have minimal involvement in their kids upbringing these days. Kids are raised by babysitters, daycare, preschool and school nowadays. The schools bear full responsibility for these kids from about age 3 up for most of them.
If you are offended by this, remember this is probably not an anomaly. This is happening on every bus in the country. If your kid is riding the bus, then he/she is either a victim or a perpetrator of this behavior, and don‘t think yours are innocent unless you’ve investigated.
When 50,000 kids leave the public schools every time something like this surfaces, the US Dept. of Ed will get the message loud and clear that America is serious about this issue, and it must stop. As long as parents show tacit approval of this behavior by getting up in the morning and feeding their kids to the big yellow bus, it will continue.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:18pm@ stu d. baker-hawk
“Of course, of course, YOUR child is a little angel, just like the parents of those little terrors on the bus would claim until the cows came home.”
Perhaps if you would acquire some intellectual honesty in your debates you would state something worthwhile.
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“You know, I‘ve had it up to ’here’ with so-called parents of your ilk.”
My honesty bothers you? Loving my neighbor as myself is a foreign concept to you? Your parents never taught you that kids growing up and learning and sometimes need guidance and loving discipline in order to turn into good people?
“Oh, and BTW, get a hair cut and lose the shades; you look like a biker-wanna-be fool!”
Again, you prove your ASS_umptions here. I used to ride with a rather mean group of bikers, so I know the territory well. I’ve changed over the years, but the memory and knowledge is still there. Because I have long hair, even that bothers you? I spose you‘re one of those that yammer on how it’s a sin for a man to have long hair.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:22pm@ killertofu
“Instead of expulsion – creating more uneducated taxpayer funded leeches on society…why not give them an excess of community service? Make them give back to the community that they obviously have contributed nothing to in the past…just a thought”
Great idea. Being out each evening and on weekends picking up garbage, sweeping streets, etc., would most likely be a very good punishment. Make it lengthy so they understand there are consequences. Certainly is far better than beating them and/or pulling them out of school so they learn nothing.
Report Post »janedough1
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:23pmJR Husky, are you saying that a slap on the wrist is enough for assault? Because that is what these kids are doing when they threaten to stab this elderly woman. These are not sweet little moppets. These kids are threatening to do her bodily harm. Does she not have a right to justice? Once upon a time in this nation, we respected elderly people; we protected them from harm. Now you are saying it is okay for a kid to threaten an elderly woman with death? Why? Because society made them that way? They have no responsibility for their actions?
The fact that we don’t punish kids commensurate with this behavior is precisely why public school gives them the worst hope for a future. They are not learning to be responsible, educated, men and women in the public schools. They are learning to be illiterate criminals and thugs. The best hope for these kids to have a future would be to throw them out of crime infested public schools where this is all they are learning.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:26pmWe want these kids punished so that young people all over America will hear about and develop a Godly fear for adults and respect for our seniors. I personally would like for their tongues to be cut out. I hope you don’t like it. Street Justice. We will have justice.FOOLS and God Bless America and return us our Republic.
Report Post »toto
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:28pmRusky, much more in the way of discipline needs to happen to this kids that were involved. The truth is the parents are probably trash and if not should be very involved in a meaningful long term punishment that will NEVER be forgotten. They need to be shamed (what a long lost concept that is) and made to do significant reparations in the woman’s behalf.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:32pm@ johnny midknight
“Throwing kids out of school is not permanent. Please get off your high horse. In or out of school suspension and/or expulsion is warranted.”
My first response that sent this thread into a rabid frenzy of desires to beat children and remove them from school by those with a lack of reading comprehension skills was that the kids should not be permanently removed from school as that is far too severe a punishment. The original post on this item very clearly stated:
“Then every kid would never be allowed back into my school”.
Thus, my response that that was too severe. There is no horse involved, high or low — only common sense.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:35pm@ dugbru
“@JR HUSKY.. I get it, which one of these kids is yours???”
Ah! You are hilarious! So funny! And so original!
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:39pm@ p c be damned
“God once called for the stoneing death for children like this. I guess God was stupid. I don’t think so. I can only tell you that if I had done this to this old woman I would want someone to blo my fu ing head off. Yes thats what I said. We thank you for justice street lawmen. God Bless you.”
Ah, another “christian” rears his loving, caring, forgiving head.
You are a perfect example for others to want to become Christians, aren’t you? Your words prove beyond all doubt what a wonderful person you are.
Truth is, you probably think everything you say is what God wants. How sad.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:47pm@ janedough1
“… are you saying that a slap on the wrist is enough for assault? ”
Absolutely not. Of course, by reading these comments towards me here you would think that, but go ahead and search on my name and read every statement I have made here. Not a single one states anything resembling “a slap on the wrist”. I’ve stated punishment, nothing less. I have stated that beating should not be part of the equation, and expulsion should also not be part of the equation. (expulsion isn’t the same as suspension).
One person had a great choice of adding community service to the punishment … and that sounds good. Something that would ensure the parents were put out also would be a good thing to ensure home involvement.
This is no doubt very sad bullying that went on. I’ve seen it on the playground; I’ve seen it in the bars; I’ve seen it in the office. It’s not just kids, although kids are the meanest of them all. But it’s bullying … these children need punishment and then guidance and education. Only punishing will do nothing to help them change their ways. Children are still children. I’ve seen some pretty bad kids turn around and become model citizens because they had just punishments and then guidance and love. Unfortunately, it appears most here would rather bust their heads open.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:49pm@ dugbru
“JHRUSKY.. You are part of the problem and reason kids behave this way.. They had their chance, and I would bet this is not the 1st time the mouthiest of these kids has been disrespectful of authority… as for ruining their lives that is for them and their parents to fix..”
So, first it‘s the parents’ fault, and now it’s my fault? I don’t follow the logic there, but then again, I doubt there was any. Your compassion for others is astounding.
Report Post »pollyanna
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:58pmI honestly couldn’t watch any more than 2 minutes…after she took her dark glasses off, and said she wasn’t sweating, she was crying.
Report Post »Did she ever ask these kids “would you ever talk to your own Grandma this way? How would you feel if someone did?” Very disturbing. Things ain’t boding well, are they.
flatbroke
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:02pmOH my… God! these kids need to ride the bus, back in my Day oh lordy! the bus drivers were crazy, and YOU did not wanna mess with em, if you acted up, the bus driver would in no uncertain terms ” GET the heel, off MY bus, right now, you little SOB, and Get the F off NOW, before i come back there and KICK your little arse into next week” and you had better MOVE off the bus, or there was hell to pay, with the school, your parents, ect. ect. ect. lady dont sit there and cry, become the scary old lady that no one wants to rile!
Report Post »BuzzardSays
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:26pm…it will leave many wondering what has gone awry in our society. What need do we have to wonder this is a biblical truth…
Matt 24:12 “Because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love will grow cold.
Matt 24:13 “But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.
So much is happening and so quickly…only an unsaved fool(non-Christian) would not recognize the sign of the times…
Mark 13:29 “Even so, you too, when you see these things happening, recognize that He is near, right at the door.
Will you mourn when you see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory? Or will you rejoice?
This answer needs to percolate through all, of mankinds thoughts. Their freewill choice is only a short time from being rendered moot. As for me Jesus is my Savior.
Report Post »dtsmith21
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:26pmThe police should charge them with elder abuse. I was a middle school teacher. This happened to a teacher friend who had taught 33 years. They really go after us old ones.
Report Post »roblynk
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:29pmJHRUSKY is a classic example of why this behavior is tolerated he has know idea the past of these kids and he is making excuses for them and there parents. I at that age never acted like that nor do i know of anyone who has, they my friends are our future in no way condone there conduct they should be expelled and there parents made to make arrangements to go to another school at there inconvenience.
Report Post »ChrisTex
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:34pm@JHRusky
“I agree with you that every kid involved should be required to attend a meeting at the school with their parents”
So would the kids actually have to stab the woman to warrent expullsion in your mind? How about beat her up, just a little though. Would that be enough?
“When you toss kids out of school, you are adding to the certainty that they will never amount to anything”.
As someone else said in a previous post, world need janitors and ditch diggers too.
And BTW…where is this bleeding heart of yours in regards to this woman? I guess in your mind she gets the satisfaction of knowing maybe one of these cretins MIGHT turn out ok…….
Report Post »KStret
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:37pmKiller,
“these kids were expelled and subsequently never received an education, can you guess who would most likely end up sopporting them through various government hand-out programs”
The educational systems is one of the reasons that we are seeing this kind of behavior. They are not educating kids anymore, they are indoctrinating them. American kids are off the charts when it comes to believing that they are brilliant and in the dumpster with actual knowledge.
The parents of this trophy kid generation is the other part of the problem. Previously, if a kid screwed up they would be in big trouble at home. That isn’t the case any more. A police officer recently told me, that when he catches a kid spray painting a building or doing something that they shouldn’t and takes the kid home to his parents instead of arresting them, the parents yell at him instead of the kid.
hoopsgulch
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:45pmDon’t know how people can send their kids to government schools.
I would eat rocks to keep my kids in Catholic school.
Report Post »dtsmith21
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:48pmThey should be charged with “Elder Abuse.”
Report Post »Susie40
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:16pmSounds like a ton of hate speech to me. Anti bullying program? Oh that’s right, that’s just for the LGBT crowd. No respect needed for someone who could be your Mom or your Grandmom! Where did all of those laws go? Ya know, the ones about hate speech and anti bullying????? Oh sheesh, I forgot again, laws are not meant for the liberal free thinkers, the ones who don‘t consider instilling ’morals’ in their children. Laws only come in handy when you want to attack citizens who stand on moral principles. Reminds me……you reap what you sow…….
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:26pmThis sort of action is to be expected after turning over your entire Media to Jewish marxists.. The kids are behaving exactly as they have been programmed to behave…
America is rotten to the core. The most diabolical despicable sinful nation to ever exist upon God’ green earth.. Without question… That which is about to transpire in America over the next 15 years or so will make the French and Russian Revolutions appear as mere childsplay.
Our nation has lost all resemblence of any sort of Godliness.. Lost it all.
Furthermore if the kids had of been African they probably would shot her after humilatin her for 15-30 minutes.. lol
I think it‘s time just to pull what little money I have left out of the stock market and begin preparing for the undoing that it’s coming our way,…
Report Post »dezmyster
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:33pmThese kids all need a good paddling!! My gosh!!
Report Post »syrs842
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:42pmWell after listening to this video and readng some of the comments; My comment is as follows: I don’t care how old they are, You want to act like big people then you get treated like big people– suffer the same consequences of your words, and some pretty big words. Rape, stabbing, break ins, etc. those are theats to her life, so besides having the parents there have the police there waiting to brings them right to the police station and press charges against each and every one of them. They are all little mini thugs at this point and will grow up to big thugs and get into bigger trouble, Nip it in the bud now, this is no joke.
Report Post »cosette
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:43pmThe next generation of NAPAS’.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:46pm@ roblynk
“JHRUSKY is a classic example of why this behavior is tolerated he has know idea the past of these kids and he is making excuses for them and there parents”
I have no idea of these kids past any more than you do, yet you seem to think it’s OK for you to make a decision based upon that unknown factor yet wrong for me to make one? You sound like a progressive in that sort of thought. But again, as seems usual here, you will not be able to recognize your double-standard statements. People like you complain about the left wanting to have double standards yet you, too, are guilty of the same.
I doubt I’m the problem we have societal problems. I guess it’s important for you to find someone to blame thus the attack on me for this. However, if you really want to think about it (and you have to be honest to do this so it may or may not be difficult for you), these kids were raised by the parents you are condemning, thus the parents were apparently not taught well by their parents. That would put these kids’ parents in the, say mid 30′s. Then their parents also failed to teach their kids, and they’re in the mid-50s’ … getting close to you yet? Is it YOUR generation that screwed up since it must be the parents?
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:51pm@ christex
“So would the kids actually have to stab the woman to warrent expullsion in your mind? How about beat her up, just a little though. Would that be enough?”
Stabbing or beating her up should result in jail time, thus I guess that would warrant expulsion.
“As someone else said in a previous post, world need janitors and ditch diggers too.”
Your compassion shineth bright.
“And BTW…where is this bleeding heart of yours in regards to this woman? I guess in your mind she gets the satisfaction of knowing maybe one of these cretins MIGHT turn out ok…….”
I guess your mind doesn’t guess well.
Report Post »atlasgrafx2
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:52pmThey need to go up before a judge. They need to be sent to at least two years of military school, at parent’s expense.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:59pm@ ex-democrat
“@FRUST@TED I certainly don‘t know what you’re going on about. No one attacked JHRUSKY out of the blue and I certainly didn’t attack him. No one attacked him until he attacked first by insulting other posters in his responses to them and naturally he got back exactly what he deserved.”
I must ask, do you lie on purpose or is it just a problem you have with readi’ng?
The very first post addressing my comments is below:
“JHRUSKY…You and like minded fools who think like you are the reason these little bastards act how they do!…Lets hug em and tell em everything is ok”
That’s not an attack? I attacked first? Do you read well?
Report Post »At least be honest when someone can go back and check the posts instead of making statements that are less than true.
Nicholsonatl
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:04pmOh please don’t send them to private school…this is what so many of us with kids in private school are trying to get away from! We all skimp and scrape by to pay for it, but sadly it leaks in there as well. So what is the solution other than homeschooling and keeping your kids completely away from what seems like the majority of society! It’s so disturbing on many levels, but in general I see less and less respect for others every place I go. I guess we all just try to be the salt and the light and pray a lot :)
Report Post »Wildape
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:10pmJRHusky Teaching is my second career. My first was the military and we took these same punk kids and turned them into stand up people. The secret ingredient was discipline. As a teacher these kids are normal. Bleeding heart liberals choose to ignore what must be done. There is no punishment, no discipline and no respect. It takes quite a while to turn these punks into productive students but they get no reinforcement in society. Education should NOT be mandatory. If they can’t behave then they should be gone and it would solve most of the failing school problems. A second chance AFTER they have proven to have conducted themselves like human beings. Otherwise you have the criminals running the asylum. These kids have NO FEAR of talking to an adult like that. Everyone of those kids should have their backside tanned who participated in this. They should have to clean up streets, clean bathrooms and be made a lot more humble. It would build the character that they lack. Bullying, out of control behavior, and a plethora of bad attitude problems plague the public schools like a cancer. Teachers are not the only ones who should be held accountable–students should be made to conform, obey, and appreciate what they are getting for free. They squander it.
Report Post »glennsacutie
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:19pmMany of you are suggesting that these brats should be expelled from the public school system. I don’t disagree. But, you’re suggesting that their parents should pay for them to go to private schools. PLEASE! The dear parents who are now paying for their students to have quality education in private schools certainly don’t need these criminals-in-the-making polluting the classrooms of their private schools. And, having served as a teacher in public, private, and charter schools, I know that many private schools are so strapped for finances, and have such open-door policies, that they WILL let these ne’er-do-wells in their schools! They will be fooled by the sob stories of the masquerading parental figures, and will take them in, saying that they can help them. However, we know what will happen. The quality of education for the entire class will be lowered substantially by their presence. These kids need REMEDIAL public education. Just put them in a room and let them color. They are gone. Do I sound jaded? I’ve seen it over and over again.
Report Post »Reagan64
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:20pmThe liberal lefts social experiment has been tried for forty years. Time to put the Bile back as the cornerstone of our education and nation. Off they don’ t like it air fare is cheap down to Venezula, Russia, Cuba. Go live your utopia life some where else in this world. We the people, exceptional people honor their exceptiona nation, America. God is our rock!
Report Post »DGG1
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:24pmThis made me cry. I think the thing that is so incredibly sad is that these are kids. They will someday be adults. What has caused our children to behave in a manner such as this. Totally void of any compassion, empathy or sense of right and wrong. Yes, I know. When a group of them get together and someone in the group gets it going it`s easy to go along with the croud. I guarantee you that if there were just one child sitting their with the woman the child would be polite and not say a word to her unless she spoke to them first. And yes, when and if each of these students are questioned about their actions ther will be some of them who say they are remourseful and sorry that they did what they did. Perhaps they will be reprimanded. They better be. But it will not solve the problem for most of them. Reasons for their behavior are probably many. And yes I would guess that part of the blame lies with the parents of some of them. I believe that unless there is a dramatic change in our values as people as a whole this behavior will continue to surface. It really should make all of us as parents take a closer look at what we are teaching our children or rather what we are not teaching them. Very sad. I was thrilled to hear that people with kind hearts came together to raise the money for this lady.
Report Post »GeeWhiz
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:29pmNope, suspend them for five days, about 20 hours of community service of washing buses, and one chance to redeem themselves. They blow it, kick them out for good.
I wouldn’t hold my breath for redemption of these little nuggets of nasty, though. Odds are high they’ll be having regular meetings with local law enforcement.
Report Post »vngstr
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:36pmWell looks like Mr Kentucky JHRUSKY is a finalist for moron of the year… While he tries to yell from the rooftops how ignorant you are he doesn’t quite get the justice of the problem. How about we as conservatives send, I don’t know, 1000 protestors to your house tonight asking why you support bullying? Seriously, do you want that? Have fun with the protestors!!! Looks like wall street protestors just got their asses kicked by computer literate conservative people that know where you are. We are peaceful protestors. Just saying…
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:40pm@ reagan64
“The liberal lefts social experiment has been tried for forty years. Time to put the Bile back as the cornerstone of our education and nation.”
The liberal left is far too left. Too far right is very similar. Turning schools into forced bible camps are not a good idea… unless, of course, you also want to don that white hood again, find a class of people to hate so you can tar and feather them, nail them to barns and shoot them, hang them, burn them alive, and other forms of “fun” these bible-thumpers had. Of course, they were right there in church, every Sunday, front row, showing what great “christians” they were.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:48pm@ vngstr
“Well looks like Mr Kentucky JHRUSKY is a finalist for moron of the year…”
I have no idea what Mr Kentucky is, but ok…
” How about we as conservatives send, I don’t know, 1000 protestors to your house tonight asking why you support bullying? Seriously, do you want that? Have fun with the protestors!!!”
I’ve never supported bullying. Of course, you sure sound like you’re calling the kettle black, Mr. pot. If I’m supposed to be scared or concerned with your idle threat, you need to try again.
“Looks like wall street protestors just got their asses kicked by computer literate conservative people that know where you are. We are peaceful protestors. Just saying…”
Geeze, Billy, you should probably run along home now as your mommy is probably wondering why you‘re not there yet as it’s getting dark out.
Report Post »KStret
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:55pmJHR,
“Too far right is very similar. Turning schools into forced bible camps are not a good idea… unless, of course, you also want to don that white hood again”
Let me get this straight:
Report Post »Teaching children the bible in schools is the equivalent of the KKK?
BigRedUSA1
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:56pmThese kids have no respect for their elders because there are no consequences in our society for anyone, it is always somebody else that is to blame for their reprobate conduct. Proverbs says that a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame, and that he that spareth the rod hateth his son, but that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. We wonder why kids run wild…there are no consequences. No child left behind is BS!!! These kids should be expelled for a year and then tied up in Jerry Sanduski’s basement. He can practice running plays up the gut to improve Penn State offense.
Report Post »foofootwotwo
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:59pmwhat is the adress to donate to this woman, we need to donate enough for this woman to get out of that place. it is most definitely the parents upbringing of these future occuturds and the utter failure of our education system. if tht were my kids, they would be at this womans house appologizing then it would be the long ride home for the beatin of a lifetime.
Report Post »mgiuseff
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 9:00pmScorpion,
I drive a school bus, so I’m closer to this problem than any other posters. We are told that we cannot touch the students anywhere but on the elbow. We have to watch our language around the students. You can imagine how high your blood pressure gets when you are putting up with this crap day in and day out. It is definitely the parent’s problem. As we have more single parent homes and more and more kids living in poverty, some kids are never taught respect for authority. Some of these kids have major, major behavioral problems. To be a bus-aide or a school bus driver is a job without good pay, and with constant problems with students. Thank God I won’t be doing this very much longer. Society has deteriorated so badly that the kids run the schools nowdays. I talked to a driver with 40 years experience, and he said when he started the kids were well behaved. This all happened since the early 1970′s. Don‘t express any opinions on this topic until you’ve walked a mile in my shoes.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 9:08pm@ kstret
“Let me get this straight:
Teaching children the bible in schools is the equivalent of the KKK?”
I said that? Let’s check…
“Too far right is very similar. Turning schools into forced bible camps are not a good idea… unless, of course, you also want to don that white hood again”
Hmmm … I dont’ see that. Unless you are not able to see the word “forced”?
Why so many of you have to continually add to comments made just so you can ridicule them certainly seems like you yourselves are dishonest.
No child in school should be taught the Bible unless they are in a specific school of their own religion. I don’t want my child having to be taught the Southern Baptist religion and I doubt you want your child having to be taught Black Christian Theology. Thus the problem of teaching the Bible in public school; whose Bible?
Now, if you want to stated we should teach the golden rule, I am all for that. But please, do not put words into my statements that were not there to begin with. The point I was making was when we had schools teaching the Bible, we had those same people who advocated that running around in white hoods. That wasn’t a good thing.
Report Post »mils
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 9:08pmno, a child that has respect for others will pick on another.. especially an adult..
Report Post »this level of a lack of respect at this age… comes from the home..either the respect is not there or parents talk like this.. i felt sorry for this woman..being hard of hearing may have been a good thing at that point.
jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 9:12pm@ bigredusa1
“Proverbs says that a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame, and that he that spareth the rod hateth his son, but that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. We wonder why kids run wild…there are no consequences. No child left behind is BS!!! These kids should be expelled for a year and then tied up in Jerry Sanduski’s basement. He can practice running plays up the gut to improve Penn State offense”
And you quote Proverbs like you’re some sort of Christian person? You guys prove my point so very many times: “christians”, what hypocrites!
Report Post »jenk99
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:09pm@JRHUSKY – While your idea is a noble one, you are being extremely naive. The problem most certainly lies with the parents. I am well aware of good kids making bad decisions. Having said that, from the last 16 years of experience, every little bully I have encountered are all products of their LOVELY parents. EVERY time my daughter came home from school and told me about someone being terribly nasty, when I met the parents (and I have met all of my child‘s friends’ parents) it is VERY apprent why the kids behave this way. Life is hard and it has consequences. Even if a child is in poverty and has worthless parents, does not mean they should NOT suffer the consequences of their actions. Obviously, they are not learning how to be respectful, decent kids at home. Someone has to teach them there are consequences for their actions or they will ultimately be worse off. Being kicked out of school would be the best thing to happen to them. Maybe they will finally learn something. We have become too tolerant of this behavior that our moral structure is crumbling around us.
Report Post »Ex-Democrat
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:11pm@JHRUSKY – I looked again and I see YOU needlessly attacking people FIRST. And, judging by your bizarre and obsessive need to confront and attack every single poster here while trying to force your hippie “Kumbaya” idiotic beliefs on them tells me that you’re nothing short of a narcissistic sociopath.
Report Post »FlamingFartSyndrome
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:16pm@ JHRUSKY
Kicking these kids out of school does teach discipline. It shows the other kids as well as the kids being expelled that there are consequences to their actions. Kids today talk like this because they are part of the internet generation, where trolls are glorified in their eyes because they receive the most attention. They say whatever is the most hurtful because they KNOW nothing will happen to them, because just like a troll on a computer, they don’t have to face any consequences!
Report Post »anna logan
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:23pmI say these bad ass brats should have had their rear ends spanked regularly years ago, and not given everything they ever wanted. These little animals became this way over years of their parents and everyone along the way catering to their every whim. I see plenty of kids who don’t behave this way and they come from homes where the parents are the parents and not following around their little bratty ass kid with stars in their eyes, like they’re the next NFL draft pick. YES, IT IS A RESULT OF THE PARENTS AND THEIR LAZY STYLE OF PARENTING!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:45pm“This clip of middle schoolers allegedly abusing a bus monitor is so disgusting, so bothersome that it will leave many wondering what has gone awry in our society.”
Why? Society is not New York. Society is dynamic, fluid and ever changing based on locality. There is no one collective “society”. This is the same fallacy we find in the Left’s claim of “Climate” change. No such thing, in a greater sense. Same here.
Middle schoolers here where I live are polite to a fault and act as if they are living in 1952, including please, thank you’s and “Mr” and “Mrs” to adults. Don’t foist the putrid culture of New York on us in flyover country please.
Report Post »Stu D. Baker-Hawk
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:57pm@ Ex-Democrat:
“@JHRUSKY – I looked again and I see YOU needlessly attacking people FIRST. And, judging by your bizarre and obsessive need to confront and attack every single poster here while trying to force your hippie “Kumbaya” idiotic beliefs on them tells me that you’re nothing short of a narcissistic sociopath.”
Know what? I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing about JRHUSKY. This man’s incessant need to counter EVERY post directed against him in a condescending, nose-in-the-air way, is nothing short of narcissism taken to ridiculous levels. I’d love to be his next-door neighbor; I’m sure my 21-years of active-duty military service and extremely conservative, traditional views on issues such as this would grate on every misfiring synapse in his touchy-feely, ex-biker, drug-addled brain.
Report Post »Jacob
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:00pmIf these kids would of been thought respect and discipline to begin with I would also agree that their parents weren’t trash but they were not and there for they are trash!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:19pm@JHRUSKY
Well fought sir. It‘s a shame people are in such a hurry to condemn that they don’t take a moment and contemplate what you’re saying. It’s a courtesy I myself like to extend to my opponents, but one which is lacking, sadly, on most political boards these days. What you’ve noted, that I’ve read, is the individualist approach to parenting, which is that each family is different and each child that did this is different, and you started out of the gate saying that the kids in the video need punishment. The knee jerk condemnation you received serves to remind me what I remain libertarian instead of going conservative. Bad kids do not necessarily mean bad parents, and even bad kids can learn from correction and become good. Isn’t that whole point of free will and individualism after all?
You spoke well and I salute you. Slainte.
Report Post »leorumthug
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:32pm@JHRUSKY
Report Post »I wonder what your kids are doing when your not around?
jimbo999
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:52pmWhen I was in Junior High, I had an incident on the school bus which got me into trouble. A kid sitting behind me on the bus, who happened to be the spawn of the Superintendent, thought it was a wise thing to stab me through the seat back into my butt with a compass point. His laughter was interupted by my fist breaking his nose. There was cheering from most on the bus, because the little snot had done it before to others. I was not normally a violent person and it was a “fight or flight” reaction…self preservation instinct or something.
Report Post »The next day, the bus driver showed me a note from said snot’s mother complaining about the “bully” who attacked her precious child, and demanding that something be done about it. The bus driver told me to watch myself but next time break his arm. Fortunately there was never a next time as he had probably learned a valuable lesson, which was lucky for both of us.
That’s how I learned to deal with a bully situation, and I never had to deal with bullying for the rest of my school career. I had street cred. Everybody saw his nose stuffed with cotton for 2 weeks.
Today, I would probably go to jail.
SquirrelNYC
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:19am@MTCOUNTRYGRL – Not all children who live in NY and go to a public school are like the rotten vile children in this video. I’m a fourth-generation New York City resident who went through public elementary, middle, and high school and came out unscathed (and conservative). I loved my schools, and the same can be said for my siblings. We’re lucky to have a strong family who backed us up the entire way and continue to do so. Sure, there were bad students and all of us (me, my siblings, my mom) were taunted at some point, but once those situations were dealt with, we were able to move on. Most of the time, you just keep going about your business, stick with the good crowd, stay out of trouble, and you’re fine. Mind you, my parents and grandmother were always watchful over us and who we associated with. Frankly, some of the foulest mouths I’ve heard while riding on buses are those of private school children! However, that does not mean all of them are bad (my dad is a private school alumnus). Godless? NYC is, after all, the city of churches! What I want to know is why the DRIVER didn’t stop the bus in that video, order those little pieces of vermin to shut up, and then tell their families in person that their child was no longer welcome on the bus and why. If their feelings (if they exist) are hurt, too bad. It’s P.C. that needs to stop. I hope that everything works out for Ms. Klein, and that she doesn’t have to deal with this savage bunch again. Stay strong Ms. Klein!
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:51am@ ex-democrat
Since I do not believe you can possibly be that stupid, the only other explanation is that you are a liar. I accept that.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 1:09am@ stu d. baker-hawk
“Know what? I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing about JRHUSKY. This man’s incessant need to counter EVERY post directed against him in a condescending, nose-in-the-air way, is nothing short of narcissism taken to ridiculous levels.”
You are not an honest person are you? You can read the posts and you can see that I only sniped at those that first attacked me, but your clouded mind will not allow your brain to accept that will it. If you can find a post of mine being a smart-ass toward someone else PRIOR to them doing the same to me, point it out and I will publicly apologize for it. I respond in like … lash out at me, you’ll get the same in return.
Go ahead. Reread the posts directed at me then look at my response. You’ll find exactly as I stated which means you are wrong. It has nothing to do with narcissism or nose-in-the-air. I hope you have the decency to be honest and check.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 1:24am@ stu d. baker-hawk
And don’t forget your very first post to me … this is before I even knew you existed and, of course, therefore, before I directed a post at you:
“@JRHUSKY: No, sir, YOU are the problem, and those like you who say give the darling little angels another chance.”
Immediately, you were stretching what I stated just a wee little bit. (Where I come from, that’s called lying, but to each his own). Why did you insinuate I thought we should “give the darling little angels another chance”? You didn’t read that I thought they should be punished, and what I was against was expulsion (i.e. permanent removal from school) and beating? How did you miss that?
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 1:37am@ ghostofjefferson
Thank you, sir. I only try to post honestly here, but am become more and more convinced that The Blaze is attracting not conservative people, but rabid, ultra-conservatives with no allowance for anyone who looks, acts or thinks different than themselves. They seem to want clones of themselves in this world rather than all the different people. They have no tolerance for mistakes (as if they themselves don’t make them!), and they want extreme and many times lethal punishments. I would not be surprised if they could make sport of putting others to death when they felt it appropriate.
Top all this off with a good number of them proclaim themselves to be “christians”! Talk about hypocrisy! I agree with you that calling oneself simply conservative anymore is not a good thing when conservatism is associated with some of these types, thus the reason I call myself a conservative Libertarian. My belief system is solid, but I am quite willing to listen to an opposing side of any argument, contemplate what is being stated, and then either remain of the thought I had on it, or modify my thought based on facts brought to the table. I do not want to believe I’m one of the few who do this; I just haven’t found the others yet.
And, before someone else claims that is a narcissistic statement, it is not. The knee-jerk reaction from so many to my original post proves this.
Report Post »1amus9
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 2:05amHey Scorpion, I disagree about kicking the kids out of school, but I do think revoking their bus privileges for a while would be wholly appropriate. That way getting back and forth to the school would be a hassle to the parents that should be teaching these little snots how to behave in public. Showing the parents exactly why this course of action is being taken, absolutely. When I was a kid about that age, I got to sit in on a video of me misbehaving in a class with my parents in the principal’s office. It was………therapeutic; thing is, I wasn’t normally a hooligan, but that experience further straightened me out. Sometimes things get out of hand with kids that age, but an appropriate punishment should at least give those kids an opportunity to be better before expelling them.
Report Post »KStret
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 2:22amJHR,
“Hmmm … I dont’ see that. Unless you are not able to see the word “forced”?”
Oh….. So teaching kids about the bible in public schools is the equivalent of putting on a white hood, burning a cross in someone’s front yard in the middle of the night, and possibly lynching someone?
Putting the word ‘forced’ in there doesn’t change the asinine juxtaposition that you made. You are comparing teaching a religion in public schools to racism and the horrific treatment of black people. What a ridiculous comparison!
Saying, “ let me tell you about Jesus” in public school is not even in the same stratosphere as lynching or tar and feathering someone.
“No child in school should be taught the Bible unless they are in a specific school of their own religion.”
That is a red herring. That’s great you believe that and we might even agree on that point. However, the issue is the comparison you made.
Are you an atheist?
Report Post »KStret
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:02amJHR,
I think are a few reasons why reason certain people are having a problem with you.
1. Just because someone is expelled from school doesn’t mean they can never go to school again. For example, most towns have a public school for kids who are expelled. They attend a public school for troubled kids who exhibit bad behavior. Other kids can attend school in the next town.
Let me also reiterate my other point that it is the educational system coupled with trophy parenting this is causing the kids to behave this way. This not an isolated incident.
2. You seem to be down playing the actions of these kids. You have made statements like, “You give them a chance just like everyone should be given a chance…..but probably does not mean every child will be. These are still children no matter how hurtful they have been.”
It is one thing for kids to mean mean to one another. It is another issue when kids sadistically taunt and swear at a 70 year women. Think about that for a minute:
Would anyone from your generation have ever threatened, insulted, or used profanities aimed at a grandmother?
If the answer to that question is no, you have to concede that the issue is not simply a few kids who made a mistake and should be punished like they skipped school. The issue is the fundamental break down of the American culture. This is why many people on this board are taking the issue very seriously.
3. You are constantly insulting Christians and inserting Christianity
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:34am@KSTRET
Well said
Report Post »scion88
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:56amThey are children of wrath. The very rot in our society is the now day judgement of God on a morally bankrupt debased humanity. Gods word makes it very clear that when we do not retain Him in our knowledge He will give us over to reprobate minds. God has been so much more patient with this society than He was in the days of Noah. His now day judgement and soon coming wrath is and will be totally justified. A depraved society will reap what they sow and suffer the consequences for exchanging the truth of God for a lie. Holy God + vile sinner = depravity = wrath.
Report Post »Abraham Young
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 5:24amThis shows the demerits of a collectivised school program.
Federal funding has hurt, not helped.
Local control – yield back the local control, so the parents have more direct say in how their own schools are run. Throw off the tyranny of DC.
Report Post »Kevin The Elder
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 5:49amAfter bringing the parents in to view the video, how about offering community service to the culprits? Something like 40 hours of cleaning the toilets of a Senior Citizen Center or some other imaginative humiliation. Just an offer, with the threat of the children being held back in the same grade next year. I don’t think we can blame the parents, but they can surely involve them now.
Report Post »Johnnygo
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:26amI am so glad we home schooled for 14 years. This can be done very cheap. We did this partly when home schooling was not allowed in any state. We had to stay on the move. Kids all turned out great. Government schools should all be shut down.
Report Post »Athinkerinaseaoflibs
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:41am@ JR I understand your concern for the kids. I have it too. However, my response to the concern is quite different. My concern is that if these children and their parents do not endure consequences to these and other similar actions, these and other children like them will get the idea as we have put forth with the rest of society that is some perverted, sick and disgusted way this is ok. I can do what I want and nothing really serious is going to happen to me. It sickens me to see the children of today, who are coached by their parents to be so, have the attitude that “It’s all about me”.
Report Post »These children were WAY out of line. Where did they learn to put forth such hatred towards another human being? How are they ever going to unlearn it? Their punishment as a minimum must be expulsion for the school district forever. If their parents want to move to some other school district then fine. If that school district will take them in–have at it. If I were the parent of one of these children, they would mow her lawn, wash her car, clean her house, polish her shoes, and do every other imaginable chore that she ever might want until I no longer were their parent. I would have to do this from a hole in ground due to the overwhelming shame I would feel.
If we allow this to be accepted in any way our country is doomed! Financial ruin won’t matter. Oil prices won’t matter. Whatever happens in the world won’t matter.
Ex-Democrat
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:02amYup! See folks? JHRUSKY stepped right in and proved my point. He’s an obsessive-compulsive narcissistic sociopath and he simply cannot help himself. It’s sad, really. Imagine having to be him and having to live under THAT burden? I guess there are meds that can help but….truly sad.
Report Post »Quiata
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:05am@SLOWBIDEN That’s an insult to janitors.
Report Post »Quiata
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:11amWelcome to the “JHRUSKY Versus the World” Show.
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:07amAmerican society is doomed. This is so repugnant. The laughter speaks volumes, even more so than the statements themselves. If this is who our children are, the Muslim country’s are right, we are indeed the Great Satan. The parents of these children no doubt will deflect the blame and protect their little angels, with excuses like those being forwarded here by some comments. There is no excuse for this behavior, none, zero, zilch; it is inexcusable. Alas, it is the excuses that has got us to this point.
Say all you want about the belts and rulers generations; but if you think the criminals that came up with belts and rulers were nefarious, watch what comes out of the hordes of the excused and special generation.
Saddest part is that they will not be able to trust a single soul, and will be isolated never knowing hard love or true compassion. What we have done is damned this generation; they will never have a single moment of fulfillment and will be completely ignorant as to the reason why.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpODYhnPEo
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:12am@ jhrusky
I am sorry then. However, we do not know (both the original poster or us) whether the children already have a record of behavioral issues. I have a feeling this is not a first offense. It is just the first on camera (which is stupid of the kids).
I am willing to bet these kids have a history of abuse of other kids, teachers and adults in general. As a large person of stature (IE FAT) person myself, I know how kids/teens make fun of people. They look directly at you and lean to their friend/sibling/family and make a comment look at you and laugh. They have no care or concern for the feelings attached to the person.
They do the same to tall and short kids/people. Children are quite mean. My father never had to teach me how to treat people. I had the church, G_d and the Bible for that. It helped me understand how to be an active member of society.
I understand some kids do not have a connection with G_d, but it is their parents responsibility to instill the basics of “treat others as you would expect to be treated.” I am afraid this is but a rabbit hole, and there is no telling how deep it may go.
Throwing them out of school permanently may extreme, but so is their behavior. It could be until the children learn how to behave in public. Or force them to transfer to another school (as the original poster said MY school). Sounds fitting. Now their parents have to send them across county to attend school and lose seeing friends.
Report Post »Grapeknutz
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:38amjhrusky, Most schools are a repository for kid, they don’t care about education (the kids) parents are disconnected from that, Talk to some of the teachers you will find out that some of these students are incorrigible and cant be taught. These are the future welfare recipients or at worst prison fodder.
Report Post »Teacher are not allowed to discipline these kids so they get bold and disrespect, or at worst actually assault school teachers , monitors , and drivers.
The feds need to completely out of the equation and return funding to the state and local control, and let the schools decide on how and what will be done instead of the feds.
JohnnyMidknight
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:44am@ jhrusky
“Stabbing or beating her up should result in jail time, thus I guess that would warrant expulsion”
But badgering and ridiculing a person to the point they may feel an outcast and could result in taking their own life should be less of an offense?
I am sorry JH, you are wrong on this. Any person with eduction as low as psychology 101 will tell you the deepest wounds carried are the psychological ones. Bruises and bones mend. The psychological damage could be unable to repair at all.
This type of behavior is behind many issues with serial killers (AHEM Columbine Trench Coat Mafia). https://home.comcast.net/~imswalkabout/Tips%20for%20When%20Teasing%20Goes%20Too%20Far.pdf
“Jeffrey Dahmer was an awkward child that was constantly bullied.”
http://allaboutserialkillers.blogspot.com/2011/03/jeffrey-dahmer.html
http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Psyc%20405/serial%20killers/Dahmer,%20Jeff.htm
“[John Wayne] Gacy grew up with a father who berated him daily for not living up to preconceived notions of what a ‘man’ should be, school kids and neighbors who bullied and tormented him, and a society that struggled with acceptance of a lifestyle it did not understand.”
http://www.beachwoodreporter.com/books/the_one_thing_john_wayne_gacy.php
We never talk of the repercussions bullying has on people. FACT: Serial Killers mostly come from middle class families and have a feeling of no control in their life. Why? Do the math.
Report Post »wolverine
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:46amI agree the only school these kids should attend is a reform school. The last I knew threatening a person with a knife was a crime.
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:56am@ JHRUSKY
“I only try to post honestly here, but am become more and more convinced that The Blaze is attracting not conservative people, but rabid, ultra-conservatives with no allowance for anyone who looks, acts or thinks different than themselves.”
I found this hysterical and completely stereotypical.
Let me disprove your “theory”.
1) We have tons of Rose-Ellen’s and other Progressive trolling here than Ultra-Conservatives.
2) The fact you call people “Ultra-Conservative” makes me wonder what you classify as conservative. You know that the current “Conservative” platform is the old “Liberal” platform, right? I mean before the Progressive hijacked the term “Liberal”. For example, look up Classical Liberal. Realize that Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, and most founding fathers were “Liberal” (under the original “classical” sense). This is the same as those who are the Libertarian Party today. Liberal and Libertarian come from the root word of “Liberal”. You can thank the Communist & Socialist Progressives for muddying the waters on the conservative and liberal labels.
3) With #2 in mind, I am a Liberal. so LMAO.
Report Post »GrayPanther
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:27amright on. These kids need better role models. clearly, they see and hear this talk at home; maybe worse. If this cycle is not broken these young haters will be the Tryvon Martins of the future in one way or another. And the probably already sexually active girls will be single moms on the dole. A great future, right?
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:57amJrusky
Report Post »You sir have brought up some valid points.Kids at this age aren’t a carbon copy of their parents.Outside influences play a much larger role than maybe they should.Contrary to the popular opinion on here ,not all the trouble kids get into, is a reflection of their parents or their parenting skills.
THIS A REFLECTION ON THE KIDS THEMSELVES AND THE CHOICES THEY MADE, NOT THE PARENTS.It requires very stern punishment from the parents.It doesn’t require expulsion as that has the capacity to possibly damage them permanently.Normally I’d say that corporal punishment in this age bracket is not the most appropriate.However in this case I believe it is.I’d say a good doubled back belt to the backsides is in order.Followed by six weeks of grounding[complete]and possibly if possible a public apology to said victim.Preferably on the evening local news.
JHFord
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:25pmWe require kids to attend school. Some kids don’t even want to attend school. So our punishment is to kick them out of school when they misbehave? Don’t throw me in that briar patch! Schools have lost authority over students because we have lost the ability to discipline them as needed until they conform to the rules. Is that cruel? As adults we must conform to rules. What are we teaching our kids? We do the students a horrible disservice to allow them to think there really are no consequences for their actions. Get the Feds out of schools entirely, and like SCORPION 1 says: return discipline to our schools. Boys respond to physical pain; you people that don‘t believe that probably aren’t one. As young men we need immediate and convincing evidence that whatever we were doing was unacceptable. Line them up, spank their butts with a paddle, and they’ll learn. The dysfunction of the system in place is creating these little disrespectful monsters……or, we can just keep trying the “time out” approach as we have been, and the first “real spanking” they get will be the penal system.
Report Post »bcshealy
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 1:19pmScorpion1, I couldn’t agree more. If these heartless, soulless little monsters are identified (and SHAME on the parents if they don’t cooperate), they should be given 500 hours of community service in homeless shelters, low-income nursing homes, etc. Maybe then they would learn some compassion — where they can’t gang up on the helpless! Every time I see a kid — or adult — behaving like a cretin, I say a silent thank you to the doctor who performed my hysterectomy!
Report Post »James
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 2:36pmRight on SCORPION! Don’t let JHRUSKY get to you.His head is stuck somewhere other than on his neck.
Report Post »CowboySam
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:09pmWOW! This makes me angry. I wouldn’t normally use bad language here but these kids need to have their asses kicked. The problem with punks like this is that even if they were to have good parents, those parents aren’t allowed to raise a finger in response to bad behavior like this. I am not advocating child abuse but these children have crossed a line. They know that there are no consequences for this. (at least no consequences that matter to them) When kids treat people like this, they should get smacked right in their nasty little mouths. I‘m sure that a great number of people here know exactly what I’m talking about. Our parents would have kicked our asses up one side of the house and down the other. In a fair and just world, these children would be punished for this. They won’t be though.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:38pm@ kstret
“Putting the word ‘forced’ in there doesn’t change the asinine juxtaposition that you made. You are comparing teaching a religion in public schools to racism and the horrific treatment of black people. What a ridiculous comparison!”
That was a bad comparison I made. What I attempted to do was to show how teaching the Bible, attending church, etc., does not necessarily mean the people doing so are good people as the racists and KKK members of past claimed “christianity”. However, I failed in that comparison. Your observation is noted and understood.
“’No child in school should be taught the Bible unless they are in a specific school of their own religion.’”
“That is a red herring. That’s great you believe that and we might even agree on that point. However, the issue is the comparison you made.”
Noted and agreed.
“Are you an atheist?”
No. I am a Christian.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:48pm@ kstret
“Let me also reiterate my other point that it is the educational system coupled with trophy parenting this is causing the kids to behave this way. This not an isolated incident.”
The educational system is broken in many ways. I’ve never stated different. Trophy parenting is not a good thing. I’ve never stated different. However, some kids will be bad even though they come from good parents.
“2. You seem to be down playing the actions of these kids. You have made statements like, “You give them a chance just like everyone should be given a chance…..but probably does not mean every child will be. These are still children no matter how hurtful they have been.””
How is giving a child a 2nd chance downplaying what they did? I NEVER stated they should not be punished harshly. People keep reading that into my statement, yet it is not there.
“The issue is the fundamental break down of the American culture. This is why many people on this board are taking the issue very seriously.”
That is a problem, but again, I’ve never denied that issue.
“3. You are constantly insulting Christians and inserting Christianity”
That is an irritating point for me for the people that in one statement claim how we should be Christians, yet they turn around and make statements like they would shoot and kill a child for even stealing a candy bar or ostricize people for their sexual preference, or any one of many other items.
Report Post »maryk62
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:53pmWay back when I went to school, they sent you home for chewing gum. My how times have changed! This is beyond disturbing!
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:55pm@ athinkerinaseaoflibs
“My concern is that if these children and their parents do not endure consequences to these and other similar actions, these and other children like them will get the idea as we have put forth with the rest of society that is some perverted, sick and disgusted way this is ok. I can do what I want and nothing really serious is going to happen to me.”
We agree on this. We disagre on what that serious punishment is to be.
“It sickens me to see the children of today, who are coached by their parents to be so, have the attitude that “It’s all about me”.”
I still say if it’s their parents who taught them this, then their parents’ parents are also guilty as they must have taught it to their children. Thus, whom do we blame? How about stop blaming and start fixing? Everyone wants to play the blame game. Let’s fix items — we cannot change the past, but we can make the future better.
“These children were WAY out of line. Where did they learn to put forth such hatred towards another human being? How are they ever going to unlearn it?”
Perhaps their parents, or perhaps the media. But, maybe at least some of it is just children being children. Kids make fun of people that are different. Heck, so do adults. I’ll bet you know some idiot adult whom also laughs at people whom are different.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 5:08pm@ johnnymidnight
“2) The fact you call people “Ultra-Conservative” makes me wonder what you classify as conservative.”
I classify conservative as pro-life, capitalistic, generous. I classify ultra conservative as to add racist, anti-freedom, holier-than-thou, judgemental to those. Reading the blogs shows these ultra-conservative traits many times by many people in their posts. I’ve heard from those that paint all muslims with the same brush, those that want to classify all blacks as lazy, dangerous and stupid, those that want to jail gay and lesbians for simply living their lives in private, many that advocated being allowed to shoot and kill anyone stealing anything for any reason, even a starving man to feed his family out of desperation or a 12 year old kid in a candy store, and so much more. If you read the stories with open eyes, anyone can see this here. To me, that does not sound very Christian and I doubt Jesus would have done the same.
“You know that the current “Conservative” platform is the old “Liberal” platform, right?”
No, I am not aware of that, but I find this interesting thus I will see what I can find out about it.
Report Post »You can thank the Communist & Socialist Progressives for muddying the waters on the conservative and liberal labels.
JohnnyMidknight
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 5:43pm@ jhrusky
Here is some material:
Not the best but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism
Dr Nigel is awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU-8Uz_nMaQ
The Rise, Fall, and Renaissance of Classical Liberalism: http://www.fff.org/freedom/0892c.asp
It is some beautiful stuff. Sad that being a liberal has such a negative meaning today, when its definition is opposite what it really means.
As for the racist comments on here? I don’t think they are Ultra-Conservative. They are the branch of David Dukes and other supremacy groups. It is sad that they are classified as even conservative. They are a progressive move to corrupt the image of the conservative party. Most a socialists… You just have to realize that NAZIs were National Socialists. Why do you think the KKK and Neo-NAZIs joined forces?
You have to learn that they are no more “Conservative” than Obama is “Liberal” by true definitions. They are just Nationalist Progressives and Obama (and most Democrats) is a Globalist Progressive. The Nationalist Progressives are a tool to create confusion with the Libertarian and the Occupy movement. Hence, why David Duke has aligned with Occupy. Notice the eerie similar message of the TEA Party and Occupy? The TEA Party, luckily, does not embrace the hate speech. People think they are defeated, but they are hard at work on the grass roots level.
G_d Bless the USA and TEA Party!
Report Post »Tonto USA
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 5:54pmI wonder how those kids would feel if the monitor was a man that had the bus stopped and went to “behavior modification mode” and whooped some butt as an attitude adjustment exercise. Course the “parents” of these lil angels would be all upset til they had their butts whipped for allowing their juvinile delinquents act up like they do. That’s what really needs to happen.
Report Post »DocPeppercorn
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:00pmMorals are devolving in this country at a rapid pace; thoughts become words, words become actions – all because some have lost they‘re since of ’RIGHT AND WRONG’. It is a sad testiment to what we have become.
Report Post »ArtfulLodger
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:27pmJHRUSKY You remark that these kids should “go to a meeting”is hard to take seriously. That is a punishment? It’s encouragement. They are our scary future and could move in next door to you. If these kids are that disrespectful, vile and vulgar at this age they will only get worse and be a danger to themselves and others if it’s not taken in hand now and dealt with harshly. If my children had ever behaved that way I don‘t think I’d speak to them for 6 months. I raised them respectful of elders, life and property.
Report Post »fastgunslinger
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:29pmall the kids that attacked this offical should be suspended from the bus for 1 year unless thee are with their parent. This forces the parents to take responcability for their own kids.I garonte that a good old fashion butt whipping with a belt.
Report Post »Gypsy123
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:32pmI am with you Trashy people raise trashy kids. The apple does not fall far from the tree with those kids. They should never be allowed back in school in the USA again.
Report Post »KStret
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:49pmJHR,
“However, some kids will be bad even though they come from good parents.”
That may be true but but the vast majority of kids who misbehave and get into a lot of trouble come from dysfunctional homes. I can’t remember the exact statistic but something like 80% of people in prison come from broken homes.
Secondly, when you keep stating that some bad kids might have good parents, it sounds like you are down playing the issue and don’t understand or possibly disagree that this an indication that the culture is in big trouble. This is not just an isolated incident. Kids from all over the country are acting like this.
“How is giving a child a 2nd chance downplaying what they did? I NEVER stated they should not be punished harshly. ”
Because it shows that you don’t understand how serious the issue is. You have repeatedly made comments like this:
“But, maybe at least some of it is just children being children. Kids make fun of people that are different. Heck, so do adults. I’ll bet you know some idiot adult whom also laughs at people whom are different.”
You are equivocating. On one hand you are saying that this a big deal and then you say some of it is kids just being kids. It can’t be a serious issue that is indicative of a cultural decline and kids just being kids at the same time..
Report Post »KStret
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:53pmcont. @ JHR
When I was in High school, two girls were sitting in the back of the bus and started smoking. The bus driver turned the bus around and took us back to school. The principal came out and told everyone that we couldn’t get back on the bus until he knew who was smoking. The two girls came forward, they had to stay at school and have their parents pick them up. They couldn’t ride the bus for awhile and received a two week in school suspension.
That is an example of kids being stupid and deserving a second chance. These kids were sadistically harassing and threatening a grandmother on a school bus. You cannot say that is kids being kids. If that were the case you would have seen this kind of behavior in other generations.
This would have been unthinkable for the worst kid in my middle school and high school. It would have never happened. I asked you that very question.
Would anyone from your generation have ever threatened, insulted, or used profanities aimed at a grandmother? You didn’t answer my question.
If the answer is no, this cannot be just kids being kids and you have to concede that the issue is not simply a few kids who made a mistake and should be punished like they skipped school.
Report Post »KStret
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:58pmCont. @ JHR
Look at how upside down this culture has become. They talked about stabbing her, breaking into her house and stealing things. That is assault and threatening to commit a crime. Yet, the kids are the ones who have police protection because the video went viral. Why are they not being charged with assault and threatening to break into her house?
That is reinforcing the notion that that adults can not touch them no matter what they say or do. When I was in high school I had a friend who worked pretty hard to buy a Mustang. He caught a 13 year-old breaking into his car. My friend literally kicked the crap out of the kid. The kid had to go to the hospital. The police told my friend that he went to far but didn’t change him and the kid was charged with breaking into a car.
If that happened today my friend would be the one who was being charged and the kid who broke into the car would be driving it after his parents filed a law suit.
I am not advocating beating 13 year-olds but certain actions have repercussions to them. We are teaching kids they they can do anything they want, they will not get into trouble for anything and there is nothing an adult can do to stand in their way.
Report Post »KStret
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:15pmJHR,
“That is an irritating point for me for the people that in one statement claim how we should be Christians, yet they turn around and make statements like they would shoot and kill a child for even stealing a candy bar ”
Did someone say that? I don’t recall that comment. You have been all over place accusing people of misrepresenting your position, if no one said that you are doing the same thing.
“ostricize people for their sexual preference,”
Why do you continually stereotype Christians if you are one? What does ostracizing people for their sexual preferences mean?
The bible is pretty clear that homosexuality is a sin just like it is clear that living a Jersey Shore lifestyle is also a sin. Do you think Christians should reject the bible and embrace a lifestyle that is contrary to biblical teachings?
Are you referring to same-sex marriage when you say that Christians are ostracizing homosexuals?
Report Post »Misticbuttrain
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:29pmAs a conservative Christian, I find most of you are rather rude to JHrusky. He never said he wasn’t against punishing them or letting them get away with what they did. He just said never letting them come back to school was a travesty. And a lot of you jumped down his throat. I do believe in expulsion and that these kids need it.
Report Post »I have a neighbor (8th grader going into 9th) who was just expelled. He took a knife to school for self defense. He thought he was gonna beat up. I believe that he truly believes he was going to get beat up. I don‘t believe he was going to be but I believe that’s what he thought. Anyway they found the knife he was expelled and summer vacation started early for him and he gets to go on to the 9th grade without repeating a thing! Expulsion is only a punishment if it actually is treated like one. There are many free schools out there that will take in kids who have been expelled. Again I have a friend who was expelled when he was 16. His parents put him in another school for expelled kids. He later dropped out and know works for dell with only a GED. Expulsion doesn’t ruin lives. People ruin their lives.
So we all need to stop bickering over pointless things like punishment for kids we don’t even know and putting words in each others mouths. What these kids did was awful and they do at least need to be banned from the bus and in my opinion much more. However that doesn’t mean we need to stoop to their (the kids in the video) level and bully ea
jhrusky
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:02pm@ artfullodger
“JHRUSKY You remark that these kids should “go to a meeting”is hard to take seriously. That is a punishment? It’s encouragement”
If I stated they should ONLY “go to a meeting”, you’d have a valid point. Contrarily, I have stated multiple times that yes, each one should meet with school officials along with their parents, but also there should be additional harsh punishment.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:10pm@ kstret
“Secondly, when you keep stating that some bad kids might have good parents, it sounds like you are down playing the issue and don’t understand or possibly disagree that this an indication that the culture is in big trouble. This is not just an isolated incident. Kids from all over the country are acting like this.”
I don’t doubt this. I, too, think the culture is in big trouble. But, at the same time, I see no useful purpose in painting everyone with the same brush. I certainly believe it’s better for 100 criminals to go free than for one innocent person to be incarcerated. I don’t believe the good of the many outweight the good of the few in any instance. And I am not in any way downplaying the severity of this issue.
“You are equivocating. On one hand you are saying that this a big deal and then you say some of it is kids just being kids. It can’t be a serious issue that is indicative of a cultural decline and kids just being kids at the same time”
Just because it could be kids being kids does not in any way make it less serious, at least in my mind. Kids have always been mean towards each other … I do not think they have towards adults but am unsure on that point. (Not all kids, mind you, but some percentage has). My intent, and I believe my postings, have not in any way meant to downplay this issue. I only believe we must teach these children if teachable, and I believe most are. Explusion only teaches them they lose too much.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:16pm@ kstret
“Would anyone from your generation have ever threatened, insulted, or used profanities aimed at a grandmother? You didn’t answer my question.
A few, yes. And herd mentality would have made a few more brave once it began. Others would have chastised the harrassers for their cruelty.
“If the answer is no, this cannot be just kids being kids and you have to concede that the issue is not simply a few kids who made a mistake and should be punished like they skipped school.”
It‘s not a simple mistake and it’s not a “normal” happening. However, I still do not believe explusion is in order which is exactly what I have stated from the beginning. Explusion around here is permanent, forever, period. Some have claimed it just means a month, a year, some form of limited time. Here that would be suspension, not explusion.
That stated, if this is a repeat offense by these kids, then that may well change. But, the report did NOT state it was a repeat offense and I don’t like assuming.
The other part of my post was they should not be beat. No child deserves to be beat, ever. An adult beating a child is a bully and a bad parent to boot.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:27pm@ kstret
“Look at how upside down this culture has become. They talked about stabbing her, breaking into her house and stealing things. That is assault and threatening to commit a crime. Yet, the kids are the ones who have police protection because the video went viral. Why are they not being charged with assault and threatening to break into her house?”
I would not object to those being charged with assault. I never discussed that option. We are in agreement on many of these things.
“That is reinforcing the notion that that adults can not touch them no matter what they say or do.”
That’s a tough road to go down. Adults being allowed to hit/beat/harm a minor opens the door for terrible abuse. (Parents should be allowed to spank, however)
“We are teaching kids they they can do anything they want, they will not get into trouble for anything and there is nothing an adult can do to stand in their way.”
And that is something that needs to be fixed, but yet again, beating the child, or taking away his/her chance for an education certainly is not going to make the problem any better nor should it be done to kids. Expel from the bus, perhaps, Suspend from school for a week, a month, perhaps. Expulsion, no.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:37pm@ kstret
“Did someone say that? I don’t recall that comment. You have been all over place accusing people of misrepresenting your position, if no one said that you are doing the same thing.”
In another discussion it was about using lethal force to stop a thief. My point was there are times when we certainly don’t kill a thief, many, many others disagreed and pointed out they would even shoot to kill a child stealing a candy bar.
“Why do you continually stereotype Christians if you are one?”
I stereotype “christians”, not Christians, and I’ve always plainly written it that way to make my point. Christians are those that have accepted Christ as their personal savior and live by the golden rule. “christians” are those that like to brag about their “christianity” and are, essentially, hypocrites and bigots.
“The bible is pretty clear that homosexuality is a sin just like it is clear that living a Jersey Shore lifestyle is also a sin. Do you think Christians should reject the bible and embrace a lifestyle that is contrary to biblical teachings?”
Have you read some of the discussions about gay people on the blaze? Have you heard the demeaning and insulting jokes “christians” here tell? It is not my, nor your, business how people live their private lives. We only answer to God.
I am against same sex marriage only because marriage has a definition and I don’t think we should just change definitions because times change.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 2:30pm@ kstret
Here is a perfect example from another blaze story about these children coming from a so-called “christian” …
“PROSECUTE_PUBLIC_SERVANTS__FOR_CONSTITUTIONAL_TREASON
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:00pm
In the Old Testament these kids would have been taken outside the town and stoned to death. There were no prisons in Israel. Punishment was immediate. These kids would have set a good example stoned to death for the rest of society. This was God’s plan. As for the parents, Proverbs says the parents do not love their children because they have raised them as bastards and not their own family. The children are bastards of the parents according to Proverbs. Proverbs places the blame on the parents and states they do not really love their children otherwise they would have never raised their children to disrespect and hate. These are not acts of love by the children and not acts that demonstrate training and care by the parents. The parents are sick individuals. This is what God says. I agree.”
Now, if that isn’t as vile, low, idiotic and even sad as they come, I don’t know what is. As I have stated, “christians”, what hypocrites.
Report Post »Thomas
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 5:22pmI hope I never come across anything like that going on because I would snap their necks for them.
Report Post »One_Man_Army
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:11pm@ JHRUSKY
Though I do actually agree with a lot of your sentiment regarding children needing to be given a second chance, where do you get off claiming that KKK and other racists of their ilk claiming Christianity? The KKK has NOT claimed Christianity. Quite the contrary. The KKK has burned churches and crosses, for crying out loud. They hate the church just as much as they hate those of the African American race. Not only is that comparison misguided, but it, MOST CERTAINLY, is based on a flat out lie.
Report Post »KStret
Posted on June 24, 2012 at 4:24pmJHR,
“Just because it could be kids being kids does not in any way make it less serious, at least in my mind. Kids have always been mean towards each other”
1. You are conflating kids being mean to kids, with kids sadistically tormenting a grandmother.
Did an incident like this happen when you were in middle school or high school?
2. The notion that this was just kids being kids is contradictory to believing that this is a serious issue. Skipping school would be an example of kids being kids. This isn’t in the same ball park as skipping school.
The notion of group think or good kids following bad kids comes directly from our educational system. Educational bureaucrats have been saying for years that since our economy has become a service economy, functioning within a group is more important than education. The educational system is creating kids like this but we shouldn’t remove the kids from the educational system is another contradictory idea.
If you treat this like the kids cutting a class, what do you think these kids are going to act like when they are 21?
Report Post »Magyar
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:39pmThe difference between then and now is— If we screwed up, our mother was waiting for us when we walked through the door.
How they found out before we got home is a well hidden secret! I suspect that they had an underground network of other concerned parents who cared enough to watch over all of us.
It wasn’t unusual to get a smack from another parent BEFORE we got home and awaited the wrath of Mom at the door!
Remember that?
We learned respect, self discipline and responsibility!
Report Post »PatrickHenryFan
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:53pmYou took my breath away describing my home town growing up in the 50‘s and 60’s
Report Post »A town in New England of 4,500 residents. You stepped out of line down town, by the time you got home my Mother would have the paddle out and the rest of my day confined to home. That “secret network” was alive and well there. And with only a land line phone to rely on.
If you stepped out of line at a friends or neighbors house, expect a rebuke or swat on the spot, then the call to your folks or they would walk you home and tell the tale to your folks while you would squirm on the side. It was a wonderful way to grow up. You respected all adults, we are all better for it.
What the hell happened, I know, you know, now we must do something about it.
This video sickens me beyond words
PATTY HENRY
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:58pmThis is what the world under Obama looks like. I hope that the PARENTS in the COMMUNITY get behind this LADY and I hope these kids are told: Open your mouths like this and you do not get to ride this bus. ALL OF THESE brats need to be suspended and made to attend anger/management classes.
Report Post »This abuse needs to go on their school records and they need to be shown the community for being the bullies they are. WHERE ARE THE PARENTS? WHERE IS THE SCHOOL BOARD? WHERE IS THE BUS DRIVER? This is so sad. BUT !! I refuse to let this be the “Norm” Vote that dope out of the WH and let’s get a GENTLEMAN in office.
Plan B
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:04pmIf those were my children they would remember their punishment everytime they sat down for the next week.
Report Post »SageInWaiting
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:22pmWelcome to the second generation of MTV, VH1, Nick, and all the rest. I was barely in my 20′s when MTV debuted. Then, It was“just” whacked-out music vids. Now… how close to televised pimp/****** how-to’s can they go with pre-puberic kids? The NJ Shore sluts reign supreme with the 16 yr old single moms and the cute teen witch.
TV has been the babysitter as society has run the parents schedules crazy. How has THAT worked for us? Not well, I would say.
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:33pmPATTY, those kids were started on the path to that behavior well before Bammy got in office, It is the fault of the parents….. And those kids need HANDS ON PUNISHMENT, but I don’t think you understand what I am saying, You sound like one of those timeout idiots, unable to put some pain on their rumps. Your post reeks of trollism.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:54pmThis is Liberalism’s gift to society……..on display……..all across the nation.
There may still be time to reverse course.
I hope November will bring change.
Report Post »BuzzardSays
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:40pmMy mother would spank us with the paddle from the many defunct rubber-ball paddle toys we would get. In our day the thing was cut from hickory. But, once the Chi-coms started peddling their cheap crap knock-offs made of balsa wood my mom would break the paddle over our butts.
So I say this is a conspiracy by the Chi-coms to foment disciplinary problems into our youth through not having an adequate arse spanking paddle. Now people have no freaking idea what they are doing. I hear jag-off liberals berating anyone who might even suggest the use of a paddle like Doctor Dobson…my hero.
Christian values are kaput outside of the churches and we are sliding quickly towards Gomorrah but my family is doing well, in Christ. Other neighboring families I see are in the toilet and it makes me grieve for a completely degenerate culture that equates real mommies and daddies with homosexual daddies on daddies, or mommies on mommies.
Divorce is rampant because of the lousy bums who are sluts humping everything they can get their penises into, and women are dressing like sluts and behaving as avarice driven wenches. If women clamped their legs shut the world would teeter back towards sanity but I am not holding my breath.
I am tired of PC correctness and so I say to you…without Jesus eternal damnation is a for sure reckoning.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:58pmMom/mothers only then? Was I the only one raised with a father?
Mom was there, but dad meted out the real punishment. God help you if Mom turned to Dad and told him your sins of the day. That was trouble.
And I love him for holding me to such high standards.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:38pmObama and his Choom Gang just don’t stop, do they?
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:17pmThe parents from the GREECE School District in New York should be so ashamed to raise kids like this.
Report Post »Time to get them in Church ro learn what’s really important in life. Punish them severely for this kind of conduct. This is totally unforgivable and unacceptable, teenager or not.
majasdad
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:45pm@CHIPS1
Man, you seem to have a bad case of ”hate-libs-and-Obama” tourettes.
Report Post »Now and then a video post pops up here on the Blaze that has NOTHING to do with politics but just focuses on intances of human decency or lack thereof. This video depicted a tragic situation that both conservatives and liberals alike feel just as disgusted about, and you see it as just another chance to blame liberals for everything from earthquakes to sunspots. It sounds like you actually don’t even give a sh*t.
Thescorcher
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:55pmIf these people were in the Obama choom gang they would be too high from Total Absorption to verbally attack this women. So I doubt that is the case. People like this don’t follow politics or even have a religion. Their parents might follow politics and their parents might drag them to church every now and then. However, this has nothing to do with Politics.
These kids deserve everything they get. They really were trying to hurt this women and any good person would of stood up for her while stopping this. I grew up in NY and this goes on all the time. If your different than other kids of your race you are teased to extreme levels. Their needs to be harsh punishments that directly effect the parents of these children if not properly addressed.
Example: School in the summer that the parents pay extra for while the kids spend the school year doing community services. Some form of redemption should be offered but I don’t have an answer for that.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:01pm@MAJASDAD
It has EVERYTHING to do with politics.
Specifically the politics of the left that have been infecting our country for waaaaaaaaaaaay too long now.
That would NEVER……repeat……NEVER have happened when I was in junior high.
Do you wonder why they even need a freaking monitor on a school bus full of 11-13 year olds?
This is what liberalism does to a society.
It rots it from the inside out.
But hey………blame it on something, or someone else. That’s also what liberals do.
Report Post »Thescorcher
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:10pm@Therightsofbilly
You are the expert because apparently Politics play a role here. What does being conservative mean? What does being liberal mean? You apparently don’t have a clue which is the problem.
A true conservative believes in conserving the constitution. Notice that period at the end of the sentence? That is because Conservatism was meant to mean conserving the principles of the constitution PERIOD.
I would argue to say that they are exercising their right to Free speech which is held sacred by conservatives mostly. Liberals are willing to bend that rule or break it if they want their way.
So that brings up the definition of a liberal. Someone who takes the constitution in a liberal light feeling that it is just a guideline that is outdated and needs to be changed.
Report Post »BlessedGirls2
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:32pmThese are not Obama’s kids…they are yours! look around you…now do you see them..they mirror you
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:58pm@TheScorcher
So you are arguing that these little cretins, by mercilessly mocking and antagonizing an overweight and elderly woman, were merely exercising their right to free speech, and that I, being as conservative, should defend their right to behave in that way?
Let’s go with what most people today consider to be the definition of the words “conservative” and “Liberal”, just for arguments sake……..k?
Now, what kind of parents do you think raised kids like that…….lefties, or righties?
Cue up the Jeopardy jingle.
Report Post »majasdad
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 5:24am@ THERIGHTSOFBILLY
Your argument is based on thin air. You randomly associate the incident with liberalism, but you don’t mention a word about how the two are connected.
These kids are just extreme examples of classic bullies. They have a total lack of empathy which could either have to do with not growing up in a loving environment, which I find most likely, or with some brain dysfunction.
Whatever the root cause of their behavior, they should indeed be punished and forced to take responsibility for their actions. On a gut level I would love to see them thrown in the stocks on the town square with rotten vegetables thrown at them.
That’s obviously not an option in this day and age, but the next best thing would be to fine their parents, to compensate their victim for the trauma they inflicted and to force them to do community service like washing public toilets, and finally, to subject them to a psychological evaluation, not to have them get off scot-free, but in order to gain a better understanding of the mechanisms leading to bullying. Perhaps one should even discuss whether not intervening when witnessing the harassment of a fellow human being should be punishable as well. I’m not in favor of that last measure, but discussing the matter would at least increase public awareness.
Finally, the least constructive approach of all is to randomly blame people of opposing political or religious views for all that is wrong in society. Which is what you’re doing
Report Post »countryfirst
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:29amJust leave the kids on the bus for the next 15 years, they will require a bus to get to the occupy movement.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:47pm@MAJASDAD
Well that’s just about what I would expect you to counter with.
You are, after all, a major part of the problem.
http://www.libertymind.com/index.php?page_id=257
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 5:38pmOh, and one more thing,
I am not “randomly” blaming anyone.
I am specifically blaming you, and all those that share the same mindset as you.
Report Post »majasdad
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 5:56pm@THERIGHTSOFBILLY
Ha ha, am I supposed to be impressed? Wow BILLY has read a book, by one of those doctor types no less!
Jokes aside, I googled the author and a review of the book popped up by a person “Ionia” who is not too fond of liberals herself, and yet she gave the book one measly star. The other two reviews were gushingly positive and could’ve been written by you and your ilk with your over-simplified black/white viewpoint. They lacked all credibility in other words.
But back to the first review. Here’s an excerpt:
“The book does validate some of the negative aspects of liberalism, which I can agree with, but at the other spectrum, the author doesn’t seem to acknowledge that everything is indeed a two-way street, and there does in fact exist a gross deal of injustice and unfairness in American society that no amount of armchair psychology can ever really come to terms with or begin to deal with.
This author strikes me as the liberal type himself — the ivory tower pseudo-intellectual who probably has never known a day of suffering in his life or had to ever starve or really bust his *ss to get where he is today. Who is he to preach?
While I do not condone either extreme liberalism or extreme conservatism, I think the answer to these problems existing today is a more balanced approach. Like I said, it’s a two-way street in life, and you can’t blame everything on one group of people or another.”
The last sentence sounds a bit like my closing wo
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:16pm@MAJASDAD
Ahh, true to liberal form……. I see you have a penchant for cherry-picking.
Rather than dwell on your one little bad review that was no doubt written by someone that saw a bit too much of themselves in the book, why not read some of the many good reviews that you can find here.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Liberal-Mind-Psychological-Political/product-reviews/B000MZ0JEU/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_5?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addFiveStar&showViewpoints=0
After reading all the reviews, I think most intelligent readers can separate the wheat from the chaff.
Instead of your JZS tactic of mockery, why not actually read all the info on the link I gave you, and then read the book itself.
The author has quite the impressive resume, if you bothered to investigate.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:33pm@MAJASDAD
And if you find the task of all that reading a tad too overwhelming, just scroll down to the 4th review from that link, and the nice gentleman has posted a rather good video review. No reading required.
You can just sit back, watch the tube, and learn a little.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:45pmHere’s another really good video about liberals for you.
Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c
Report Post »Firebrand
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:37pmThis makes me want to cry. That‘s someone’s grandmother or mother. I can’t imagine someone talking to my mother that way. The kids are “getting disciplinary action.” The principal will bring them in, sit them down, make them apologize to the woman, and the kids will blow it off immediately. Meanwhile, that woman will be tormented by those comments the rest of her life. That kind of teasing doesn’t go away when it stops being said. It makes me very very sad and very angry. Not that anyone cares what I think.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:50pmThe kids are “getting disciplinary action.” That means they’re getting hugs and reassurances that expressing themselves like that is perfectly fine. After all, we can‘t have the little darlings growing up thinking that they’re capable of doing something hurtful and downright mean, can we? Not when every single one of them is super duper special and is the very best, absolute sweetest little angel who ever walked the earth. Don’t believe me? Then ask their parents, whom, BTW, need to be beaten for raising such horrid, vile little cretins in the first place.
Report Post »boomboom
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:54pmI can imagine AND I can imagine punching them square in the face for doing it.
Report Post »venrooy
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:13pmI thought the same thing when I watched it. That is someone’s grandmother! I’ve taught my children that you NEVER NEVER EVER treat your elders (or anyone for that matter) with any form of disrespect. Watching that video just made my blood boil. It’s apparent that these kids have had NO form of discipline, and they‘re at an age where it’s almost too late to make a difference. But my ooohhhh my wouldn’t I just love to be the bus monitor on that bus for just one day. I’d have them begging their own mommas for an ass whoopin. – It’s almost like these liberals are pushing us to believe in abortion.
Report Post »Thescorcher
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:46pmYes this is a shame. Plain and simple these kids need to understand that you don’t treat anyone that way. Not even your greatest enemy.
The sad thing is just a few weeks ago a parent took it upon herself to discipline a child who was Bullying her daughter and she ends up in Jail. So no one on her can say that they would take the place of this women and do anything different. Had she done anything physically the stories would be geared towards ruining this woman’s reputation.
So here comes the question what do we do? Well that is a good question because apparently nothing is the only thing that can keep your name clear. Example: George Zimmerman. I think he was just supposed to let Trayvon martin bash his head into the pavement and suffer permanent brain damage.
I think Mrs. Klein kinda looks like Obama’s grandma, and I think we need a press conference from the president to confirm this. Online petition?
Report Post »fflsuun
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:35pmOur world has changed, and so many can’t even see it. It’s pretty obvious that the veil of protection has indeed been lifted from our Country.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:46pmHa, this is where I’m from originally, and I didn’t even read the article first.. but when I heard the accent of the kids in the video I knew it was Rochester or Buffalo.. I am not surprised though, my experience growing up in Rochester is full of mean kids and I remember a similar episode on the bus of kids making fun of the driver for shopping at kmart.. Some of the nicest kids I’ve ever met were in NYC… Rochester is chock full of spoiled little f’ers…
Report Post »KansasPatriot
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:58pmThank Madeline Murray O’Hare, She sued to get the Bible out of schools and this is a direct result.
Report Post »junior1971
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:15pm@CESIUM, I grew up on the rough side of Rottenchester to, Churchville-Chili (Cowtown) back in the day when the kids were so bad that they had a 9 o’clock curfew. We used to rumble with the kids in Gates and Spencerport. There would have been a dozen kids including myself that would have beat the snot out of these spoiled little barbie dolls for bullying old ladies! This is what mommies liberal hugs and kisses agenda has given us. Where’s my frekin belt!!!!!!! Boy, I sure do miss the wings and pizza though!
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:57pm@Junior Totally! Wings and Pizza in Pennsylvania blows compared to Ponty’s or Marks. I’m from the worst of the worst! Brighton! Although, if we didn’t move I would have went to East which I doubt would be any better.. Yet, one of the nicest most well adjusted kids I met was from there.. He just wasn’t like suburban kids around Rochester. Same was true for a school of the Arts kid.. When I found myself outside of Rochester in an “outside rochester area” summer camp and in college, I had trouble making sense of the way kids interacted with each other in less egotistical ways…Most of the kids were from NYC and much more mature.. If they were jerks, it didn’t even compare to kids I knew from the Roc.. All we ever did back in Rochester was talk sh….t and think we were the sh…t. Western NY is one of the meanest anti-social places in the country… Half my friends at Brighton ended up on Heroin by graduation and are some of biggest A…holes I know.. Even A…holes I’ve come to know elsewhere exude much more decency, some are even involved in charity work. You‘d think because we were suburbanites we’d be cheery happy respectful kids from good homes but Rochester suburbs aren’t like that…It’s a mental and physical battleground. No one supported each other unless it was one group fighting against another… extremely cliquey…
Report Post »FedUpNYRes
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:46pm@Jr. and Cessium–the pizza and wings? Surprised it’s not the Plates that you miss!! I’m in Rochester–well, a suburb–and this is the talk of the town today. It’s disgusting and if my kids EVER did anything like that, they‘d be begging for the school district or police to handle the situatio because they wouldn’t like what would happen at home. I agree, it‘s the parents’ responsibility…just the other day speaking to my husband about our daughter’s friends from the neighborhood (in 1st grade) and how they sometimes act here and talk to us. He said he has absolutely no problem disciplining other people‘s kids when they’re here as he would expect the parents in our neighborhood to do the same with our girls when necessary. That’s how it was back in the day, but now people are so worried about offending someone else. Sorry, our house, our rules. Maybe if these kids had any discipline in their lives they’d think twice about how they acted towards other adults, or anyone for that matter.
Report Post »Thescorcher
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:37pmYea I was going to say that about Rochester kids too, but anyone not originally from NY would not understand. The kids who are raised their are typically kids of successful businessmen and women from NYC. Probably unable to discipline their child until after rush hour(5-6pm), and that leaves 2 hours for those kids to get in all sorts of trouble.
How about making school days longer. Benefits everyone since teachers are paid salary. Just doesn’t benefit the teachers but after all they get the summer off(which in this case it would make more sense to be paid for that time on tax money if it is because they work overtime hours). Some state should try it out and be a model for the rest.
Maybe a period of the day where kids do work that would normally be Homework. Problem is no one works 8-2:30 and stay at home parents aren’t realistic for most with the way the economy is going.
Report Post »TROLLMONGER
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:34pmReal good job at raising your kids baby boomers. The baby boomer generation is the one that has led to this countries outrageous debt and decline of society due to horrible parenting.
Report Post »M13
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:45pmWell let me be the first to say to your parents, thanks for spawning an idiot for us to laugh at.
Report Post »DSTSS2010
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:50pmYou ARE a jacka$$! These are the children of the “ME” generation, That’s your generation is it not? Maybe I’m wrong, was that your voice I heard on this video?
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:53pmToday’s middle schoolers were not raised by baby boomers. Well, unless they‘re Bill ORielly’s kids.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:00pmLet’s be honest and fair here:
Today’s kids are being raised by the children of the baby boomers. That does mean that we baby boomers screwed up, too, in not instilling proper parenthood techniques in our children. If you fail to accept that responsibility, then you are part of the problem.
Report Post »Plan B
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:10pmGonzo-or Larry King’s
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:18pm@Trollmonger: You are reminiscent of these punks.
Report Post »Gomek
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:05pmRaise their kids?? Those kids weren’t raised, they brough themselves up by the laws of the street. Those kids are just the unfortuente result of a careless moment of passion probably between two friends or hook ups. Sadly, there‘s that segment of the population that don’t care about their kids and expect the world to raise them. It’s a crappy situation, because those of us in their 40′s, just think, they’ll be the ones taking care of us in the nursing home!
Report Post »jackact
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:34pm… School mates of Trayvon perhaps?
Report Post »fdraiden
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:56pmObummer supporters!
Report Post »BlessedGirls2
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:39pmResponse to Jackass or Jackact…Trayvon was stalked and murdered by an adult (remember the facts). These little “Hoodlums” don’t appear to look at all like Trayvon (who by the way you idiot is deceased)
Report Post »majasdad
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:48pm@JACKACT
Report Post »You’re a jack@ss.
lukerw
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:32pmJust young Predators testing their ability!
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:56pmYou know you are probably more right than you know….. That is what children do, they test us, even infants test us….. a one year old will, right after you tell them not to touch something, slowly while looking at you to see your reaction, move their hand closer and closer to what you just told them not to touch,testing to see if you really meant it…… Why should a child’s methods change just because they are older….. If that lady on the bus would have immediately dealt properly with the very first child that acted so ( fill in the space as to what you believe would work) and there would not have been another incident from that kid or any other.
Report Post »Quiata
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:07amIt’s too bad that as adults they might end up testing the jail cell door.
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:26pmIf Obama had a son, he’d look just like the little creep abusing the woman in the video. This is what a generation of “time outs” and no fathers in the house has given us.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:37pmMichelle’s hand book taught to Parents and Teachers…. results in Liberal Clones!
Report Post »Amren
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:40pm@Lukerw,
Report Post »Watch your step Luke! Not all teachers are Liberal, Obama-bot Zombies. Some of us are ex-MMA fighters that needed to make money before our brains were beaten to mush. I teach Middle-school. I’ve seen kids act like this…up until I go stand next to them and have them explain themselves and their behavior, and apologize from the bottoms of their little hearts.
If there are any of you that did not like what you watched, then I can safely assume you all volunteer regularly at your child’s school, attend all of the PTSO (formerly PTA) meetings, check your kid’s homework every night, and bring home-made choclate chip cookies to your middle-schooler’s Social Studies teacher (hint, hint).
But seriously, most of you are ready to name call, threaten, and talk crap about other children’s parents. Ummm, we’re supposed to be the adults here. If you want to spend time in jail for hitting a kid, WOW! What the heck is wrong with you?
Hit a kid in front of me, and I will gladly do time for assault for beating your a$$. These kids are cowards. Who knows what their parents are like? I have seen parents that worked their butts off to discipline and raise a good kid, only to have that kid turn out to be a horrible waste of skin. There’s always more going on than you or I can see.
They are on tape. Bring in the kids and parents in and work out a suitable consequence. And, NO, I don’t mean a time out and a hug. I think doing yard work for the lady for a month would be gre
Sugabee
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:50pmThank you, Amren, for your comments. Some kids ARE parented with discipline and morals, and STILL CHOOSE to be idiots. You can’t just a parent by the actions of their kids.
Report Post »Unbelievable
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:25pmIf any of these kids were my child he wouldn’t be able to sit for a month and then he would be praying to see the sunlight for the following six months!
What is wrong with us today?!?!?! It is so hard to believe kids would do this to an elder. Makes me sick to my stomach!!
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:56pmSo, you would beat them and then lock them in a room or basement for 6 months?
Report Post »How nice of a parent you must be.
RDWD32
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:00pmTotally agree, My kids would be in a world of hurt!
Report Post »Plan B
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:08pmJHRUSKY<
Report Post »I totally agree with a spanking followed by a grounding. What the hell did your parents do, give you a time out?
4xeverything
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:12pm@JHRUSKY
The job of a parent has absolutely nothing to do with being nice!
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:19pm@JHRUSKY
“So, you would beat them and then lock them in a room or basement for 6 months?”
Sounds like a good start.
Report Post »Unbelievable
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:23pmjhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:56pm
So, you would beat them and then lock them in a room or basement for 6 months?
How nice of a parent you must be.
Darn tooten!! The day the government took away a parents right and school rights to discipline their kids the kids started walking all over parents and teachers!
We got licks in school and boy we NEVER backtalked a teacher! My Dad had the fastest belt this side of the Mississippi and we NEVER dreamed about backtalking our parents!
Nothing wrong with a spanking or being grounded! Forget this stupid timeout bs!! A minute for every year… pffft!
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:29pmParents that are too nice FAIL.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:34pm@ plan b
I’m not against spanking, nor grounding. I experienced both. I am against beating. I also experienced that and vowed to never, ever allow it to happen to my children. I can only respond to what the poster wrote as I cannot read his/her mind as to what he/she actually meant.
@ 4x everything
You people are such extremists! I never said to be nice … I said beating and locking someone up for 6 months was wrong. Can you read?
I wont’ even respond to the moron that calls himself goodstuff.
Report Post »GiveUsJustice
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:34pmI think the trend here is, JHRUSKY’s kid was on that bus saying that stuff.
Keep telling your kids it is never their fault, and keep letting them do whatever they want. Your results are in front of you.
What an awesome parent you are.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:38pm@ unbelievable.
Where do all you people come up with this timeout nonsense? Did I state timeout? Are you people so dishonest that you have to constantly setup strawmen because your argument doesn’t hold water?
I said it’s wrong to BEAT a child. I never said not to punish, not to spank, not to ground or anything else. If you want to brag about your dad beating you with a belt, well, that’s your right. I would never brag about any person who thought it good to beat a child. Since you advocate beating children, too, your beatings apparently took root in your life as they usually do. Sad, so very sad.
Report Post »dorightfearnothing
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:14pm@jhrusky
It would have acceptable for a young stud to punch my kid in the mouth for doing something like this. It would be a whole lot less painful then what he or she would get when they got home. What is the matter with people like you? Were you dropped on your head as a baby or suffer a head injury recently? Dope maybe? I either case you sound like a real jackwagon…..
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:08pm@ giveusjustice
“I think the trend here is, JHRUSKY’s kid was on that bus saying that stuff.”
That statement proves just how shallow you are.
“Keep telling your kids it is never their fault, and keep letting them do whatever they want. Your results are in front of you.”
Again, I ask people of your ilk … when did I state I would tell the kid it’s not their fault, or just recommend a timeout, or any such nonsensical claptrap? When did I not advocate punishment? What I DID state is beating a child is wrong… if you beat your children, I want you to be punished in jail for that. There is never a reason to beat a child.
“What an awesome parent you are.”
Thank you. I am quite proud of my daughter and the reasonable, kind, helpful person she turned out to be.
Report Post »kung
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:25pmI couldn’t even watch it. I just wish I could’ve been there to give her a hug.
Report Post »4xeverything
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:55pmI couldn’t watch this either. This is the sick, vile, and repugnant behavior of a lost generation. This is one of many reasons that I pity parents who find the need to be their childrens‘ ’bestest friends’ instead of being their parents. This is the result of no parental oversight and no discipline. A disgusting, immoral generation that is dead inside. These kids are literally screaming for attention, for parental guidance, for discipline, and for love.
Report Post »LakewoodEd
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:24pmExpel the little prix for life and save on their educational expenses since it’s proving to be a waste of money already.
Report Post »Texas Chris
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:36pmTotally agree. THIS is what your public school tax pays for.
“Anti Bully” my lilly white @$$.
Make mommy and daddy pay for the schooling, the bus, the food, everything, and mommy and daddy will correct the little tyrants.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:24pmWhat wretched little brats.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:23pmFirst off what is this lady monitoring? Those kids should all be expelled for their behavior but that lady shouldnt be a monitor on a bus.
Report Post »normalmom
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:37pmUsually if there is an attendant or monitor it means a “special needs bus”. The thing is some of the “special needs kids” are ones with behavior problems and don’t get the same treatment as a regular student. If a regular kid does this to the driver they get written up on a citation, in my company three citations get them removed from the bus for a certain amount of time, but with special needs it takes several times and is left up to the school principal to decide if they get removed from the bus.
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:53pmThat’s what I was thinking Mutiny.
Report Post »Sounds like a good job for some of our returning soldiers…the really big scary ones!
Amren
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:12pmAnd, this is why we teachers NEED parents to be involved at their kid’s schools! Everybody like to talk $hit about how bad teachers are; well here ya go! See how YOUR kids behave??? These are YOUR children! YOUR ‘little angels” that sit there and cry to you in Parent/Teacher conferences because we’re “MEAN” to them!!! By “mean” I am speaking about making them follow simple rules and behave themselves
Report Post »I teach 8th grade and I CHALLENGE any one of you to go to your child’s school and volunteer in a classroom for 1 HOUR; I won’t even make you stay the entire day, because YOU CAN’T HANDLE IT!
Ask yourselves this: Why was there a little old lady, whose kids probably graduated College years ago, being a bus monitor? Why wasn’t there a big, strong, MAN there. men? Do you think these kids would have pulled that with some big, buff, 250 lb man sitting there? Nope. Because those kids are worthless COWARDS!
But, let me tell you, they respond positively when there is someone that puts a little healthy fear into them and shows them how a MAN behaves. Most of these kids don’t even have a father figure, so we men who teach almost always end up as proxy Dads. I have had a large number of my students ask me to adopt them. So, men, if you aren‘t involved in your child’s life: What the heck?!?
How many of you complaining here are involved in your kid’s lives?
A show of hands, please!
Do The Right Thing
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:43pmDon’t even go there with the blaming this on the bus monitor BS. Those little derelects obviously need more than any bus monitor could do to straighten out their acts.
Report Post »essay
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:20pmMy money says if they get in trouble for this horrendous abuse, that 90% of the parents will be at school taking up for their evil spawn. Look at home before you criticize school.
Report Post »BlessedGirls2
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:46pmYou are so right, why do people blame, blame, blame…if these people would only look and listen to themselves with their bad language, poor grammar and ugly behavior they would see these KIDS as these kids see them and repeat what they See and Hear…These are not original statements these kids have heard all of this before. If anyone thinks this is the first time for this behavior WOW! well they are so lost!
Report Post »IlovemyAkita
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:16pmHey ESSAY. Joo otta know!
Report Post »normalmom
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:20pmIt does happen, I am an attendant on a school bus. I had two grade school kids considered special needs due to behavior problems, they think they have the right to tell anyone to shut up and even me. The attendants are just as much an authority on the bus as a driver. No child has the right to tell any adult to shut up or as in this case even worse. Parents however too often are treating the kids, each other and even anyone else like neighbors this way so that is what they learn. However because of the no discipline rules these days the kids can do whatever they want and nothing happens. Parents teach your kids to respect others, also teach them the importance of being quiet in any vehicle. The drivers need to be able to concentrate on their driving in order to get you safely to and from home.
Report Post »facilitiesmgr
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:19pmWhat do you expect? Heaven forbid we teach the kids any kind of morality or ethics in our schools. We could “damage” them.
When there are no standards to live by we better we willing to accept whatever we get because without high moral standards the results we get will be the bottom of the barrel as exemplified in the video. There is no respect for authority or property being taught in schools and sadly many times in the home. The family unit is broken in many instances with there not being any male who is taking responsibility for what is taking place in the home.
Report Post »Unbelievable
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:27pmIt’s much more important to teach them how to preform oral sex.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:18pmSo I thought there was all this effort to combat bullying? It would seem that just like every other leftist notion and “plan” the opposite outcome is the actual result.
I think there is a time tested, workable anti-bullying tool that was abandoned about 40-50 years ago…teaching the Golden Rule as well as the 10 Commandments among other Godly principles
Report Post »vinividivicci
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:57amI agree. I’m not religious but anyone who has read the Ten Commandments knows that they are basic tenets of civil humanity and common sense. Treat others as you would want to be treated, don’t kill anyone, don’t steal, don’t cheat on your spouse, have some self respect and respect for others, etc. Mentioning the Ten Commandments will only bring out the religion haters. Just recite the basic meanings of said Commandments to be able to get through to thick heads. Sometimes a change in semantics is all it takes to teach some people because they are so hung up on hating religion they will use that as an excuse to behave badly. So sad and pathetic.
Report Post »Christian4ever
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:18pmI’m sure her husband, son or grandson will have something to say and do about this. This kids all need to get their asses kicked. What a shame. Take GOD out fo the schools and here is what you get.
Report Post »D-Fence
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:27pmTruth
Report Post »AnimalsAsLeaders
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:59pmWell, to be fair, when we had god in our schools – we also had slavery and a denial of basic human rights for anyone who wasn’t a white male. That’s not to say religious teaching promoted these behaviors, it just highlights the fallacy of your argument. Teaching chrisitianity in schools certainly didn’t prevent unthinkable travesties from becoming the norm in American society before.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:17pm@ animalsasleaders
I agree … some of the worst acting and mean kids I have seen came from actually good, Christian families whose parents are well-respected. The kids are 100% anytime their parents are around, but get them with their little friends and look out!
School is not the place to teach God because so many people have so many different views on God. However, teaching “the Golden Rule” and other such things is good and should be done. Teaching kids to respect the next persons beliefs and feelings are also good to do. That is NOT saying that anyone has a freedom FROM religion, because I do not believe they do. But it is teaching that there is a freedom OF religion, and part of that freedom is not teaching religion in school because there are just far too many of them.
All that stated, even non-religious people can understand, teach and practice “the golden rule” thus the claim that the reason this happens today is due to lack of religion in school does not appear to have legs to walk.
Report Post »SREGN
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:19pmAnimal – We had God in the schools until 1963. I’m quite sure we had equal rights and an abolition of slavery then.
Report Post »Red Meat
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:25pmjhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:17pm
@ animalsasleaders
I agree … some of the worst acting and mean kids I have seen came from actually good, Christian families whose parents are well-respected. The kids are 100% anytime their parents are around, but get them with their little friends and look out!
That’s complete and unadulterated BS. Sell that crap some place else.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:28pm@AnimalsAsLeaders: @ssholes have been around for along time and will remain. Open your eyes. My guess is that you may get a glimpse of the inside of one.
Report Post »AnimalsAsLeaders
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:18pm@SREGN
Report Post »Correct. But you should re-read the second part of my post.
“Teaching chrisitianity in schools certainly didn’t PREVENT unthinkable travesties from becoming the norm in American society before.”
jhrusky
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:09pm@ red meat
You are welcome to believe as you will as it is quite obvious your mind is made up and nothing will change it. Sad to see so many closed minds here.
Report Post »SREGN
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:18pmBehold the end result of the public school system. They have abandoned teaching morality, english, science, and math, in order to teach political and environmental activism and secular humanism. And the exhorbitant bill for it all goes right to you, Taxpayer. Had enough yet?
Report Post »Redwood Elf
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:57pmWell it‘s certainly looking like the world is almost ready to be come the world portrayed in Kubrick’s “A Clockwork Orange” – all that’s missing is the creepy narration; “There was me, that is, Alex, and my three Droogs….”
Report Post »BlessedGirls2
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:15pmThese little nuckleheads need parenting which does not stop when they leave home. Well trained kids come from parents who teach them how to behave at home and away from home. So don’t blame bad behavior on liberals, and evironmentalist or the priest or the system. You created these monsters now you can live with them..they will not stop with the bus monitor they are coming after you..you the people that write these disgusting blogs everyday of your miserable lives!!
Report Post »Cloth Stews
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:17pmI drive a school bus (usually without a monitor) for middle school. My bus stops and we just sit until this type of behavior stops.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:44pmWhen you do something like that, the liberals will claim that you are keeping the children in a place against their will and you will be prosecuted for kidnapping. You can’t win when the left is in control. That’s what they do!!!
Report Post »greatgranmom
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 9:00pmForty some years ago when my children misbehaved at school we the parents were responsible. There was NO beating.
Report Post »The bus driver should not have allowed that lady to be abused like that. Should have pulled over stopped the bus and got names & phone numbers.I thought school buses had video cameras on them. Meeting at school with the parents to dole out the punishment. Cleaning the restrooms wearing t-shirts stating “I”m learning to be respectful of my elders” while they are on a week suspension. If it happens again no more busing, parents will be responsible for transportation.
Do The Right Thing
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 9:03pm@ cloth stews I agree, plus, the next time the derelects want on the bus, they get to apologize to the bus monitor and ask their permission to board, if it’s not genuine, in the adults on board (both of them) have the school boards’ blessing to disallow them on. Parents brought in to transport until they learn to ask forgiveness. Rights and Priveleges are 2 different things. This is AFTER the suspension, of course. The juveniles don’t get told about the apology thing until they turn up to ride, as well… On a side note, I sure wouldn’t want to have to ride that bus as a kid with anything which gave the derelects something to pick on. Parents could be brought in to explain their little bundle of joys’ behavior to the entire school board, and acceptable fix to them, as well.
Report Post »neiman1
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:15pmAnimals being raised by animals and yet we are suppose to guarantee them an equal outcome in life to actual humans.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:52pmand the liberal want more education with no morals and question things like this video how did this happen? No morals equals bad behavior. just more secular crap fed to the masses. This is our future, paying for these kids whether they are in jail or on food stamps. no one hires trash like this. sickening.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:14pmI am all for hitting other peoples children. seriously if some foul mouthed child talks to me or my parents gradparents or any stranger like this in front of me they have another thing coming. disgusting. these children are animals. I am so proud of my family and the children we have all raised when I see animals like this it makes me wonder about the world I send the kids into everyday. God help us.
Report Post »ferggie
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:28pmAmen. I say smack the crap out of the little ba$trds. I would pay some kid to beat the crap out of everyone of them if she was my mother. As for the parents if they had a problem I would tell them to go ahead and take it up with me.
Gonzo
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:12pmLet’s throw more money at the education system. That will solve the problem.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:53pmGONZO:
Report Post »What made you include the word “education” in your post? Good post!!!!
perry1980
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:09pmThese kids brought to you by the Time Out Parenting and the non punishing hands off education system. When they become adults guess how they are going to act….
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:18pmTake a look at the Denny’s video. We don’t have to guess.
Report Post »boomboom
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 1:55pmBehind BARS…duh.
Report Post »Kinnison
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 9:11pmI taught junior high school before I moved up to the senior high to finish my teaching career. My junior high colleagues and I maintained that we could teach kids for a month or so when they came in as 7th graders and accurately predict which ones would end up in jail. We were rarely wrong. Most of it is the fault of failed parenting, but the schools must take part of the blame too. If you teach children that whatever they do no one is allowed to touch them, and that they will always get a “do-over” for 12 years of public education, and then, at the age of 18, you declare them legal adults and toss them out into the real world, many are either going to get beaten up on a regular basis by their peers, be unemployable, or end up in prison. Because the real world cannot and does not afford a whole lot of “do-overs” and bosses do not keep screw-ups employed.
Report Post »Pray for USA
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:41pmReply to Kinnison: My first and second grade colleagues could pretty much call it in primary school. You couldn’t get through to some kids and their parents. I remember teaching twin boys and trying to reason with them. All I got was “He was messing with me.” They already had been taught to seek revenge. Neither graduated. I know one ended up in state custody during high school grades. Actually the drug dealers did better. They wanted to be able to sell their drugs so they didn’t want to cause trouble at school (or on the bus). We didn’t give up trying to make a difference. We always hoped there was a chance someone would beat the odds.
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