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‘Do We Want To Become A Socialist Country?’ Sen. Coburn Predicts Full Repeal In Senate

Do We Want To Become A Socialist Country? Sen. Coburn Predicts Full Repeal In SenateFollowing Chief Justice John Roberts’ decision to vote to uphold President Obama’s healthcare law as constitutional, The Blaze caught up with Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK), a staunch opponent of the bill, to get his take on the historic ruling.

“What kind of long-term impact will this have on the healthcare industry and on private doctors?” The Blaze asked.

“Well, I don’t think it’s going to have that much because my hope is that the American people are going to replace the president and give the conservatives control of Congress and I think we’ll repeal it,” the senator responded.

“When 60 percent of America, and the middle voters, and the independents, and moderates (over 50 percent of them) are absolutely against this bill, they’re going to come out and vote. And they’re going to vote against the people that rammed this thing through, regardless of what the Supreme Court said,” he added.

Indeed, considering that the Romney campaign, which promises to repeal “Obamacare,” has raised over $4.3 million since the court’s ruling, Sen. Coburn’s claim that an overwhelming number of Americans oppose the law may be right on the mark.

“The Supreme Court was kinda’ cute,” the senator continued, “they protected the Commerce Clause and used the taxing power of Congress to allow this to go forward.”

“But I think this gives us a great opportunity to say ‘do we want to go the way of Greece and France and do we want to become a socialist country?’” he asked

“That’s what this bill does.”

 

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  • OperationNorthwoods
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:44pm

    @ Avenger “This it the beauty of Roberts’ decision. By making Obamatax a tax it cannot be filibustered, a majority vote in both houses will carry the repeal. And then Barack Obama will of course veto it and have to tell Mitt Romney and the entire nation why he didn’t stop the biggest tax hike on the middle class in US history that is already raising their insurance premiums.
    Obama will bludgeoned with this for the next 5 months.”

    The beauty of the decision? Are you serious? The beauty would have been if Roberts sided with the other 4 members of the court who wanted to throw the whole thing out.

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    • Just FIX it
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 8:09am

      You probably didn’t notice – but the government is screaming – IT’S A PENALTY – NOT A TAX !!! – Why ??? Because the government has no right under the Constitution to apply this tax. The Constitution very clearly states that ALL direct taxes must be based on apportionment and this is a direct tax which means that it must be paid by everyone – Opps – Only people displaying BAD BEHAVIOR by not buying health insurance are charged the tax – so it doesn’t measure up under apportionment. The 16th ammendment allows congress the right to assess a tax based on incomes without regard for apportionment…….but this tax has no regard for income !!! So the government has no right anywhere in the Constitution to apply this tax! — Funny that SCOTUS didn‘t realize that when they said it’s JUST A TAX !!!

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 10:09pm

      @Just FIX it
      It doesnt matter what the constitution says about how taxes are enacted – the supreme court just sanctioned it. Unfortunately, that is how things go in this country.

      This decision will go down as one of the worst for freedom in the history of this country. They just gave the government taxing authority in areas they would have never dreamed. They can do ANYTHING – as long as it is part of a tax.
      Tax you for going to church
      Tax you for not eating healthy
      Tax you for posting on theblaze

      Remember, the power to tax is the power to destroy

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    • SELECT
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 4:35pm

      @ soybomb315, do you know anything about a Republican healthcare program? i didn’t think so….

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    • Todd P
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 8:19pm

      Whether a penalty or a tax – it’s unconstitutional. Roberts should know better. Now, Obama can mandate that everyone drive an electric car – and PENALTY / TAX anyone who chooses otherwise!

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    • wake_up07
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 8:26pm

      news flash: a speeding ticket is a (highway) penalty or a “tax”… See?

      BUT it is only assessd on Freeloaders, who like speeders refuse to follow the rules, use Emergency Rooms for everyday healthcare and then stick you & I with the bill when they refuse to pay…

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    • StanO360
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 3:21pm

      Select – spew is not an argument. http://www.gop.gov/indepth/pledge/healthcare

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  • Bernice Durdan-Rowland
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:35pm

    An answer to HEFFE44 – last night on a conference call , twice it was reported we only need 5l votes, not the 60 . So there is a very good chance the repeal could work…….
    I am sure we can take Obama out with his radical healthcare bill. We can even overrule the Supreme Court – after all it IS THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT RULES !!!!!!!!!

    Time is short, b ut we CAN AND WILL do it !!!!!!!!!!! The people are awake – Obama has been so radical and “bullish” – the people woke up to see just what he is doing and where he is leading us!!!!
    He can’t be giving all the “freebies”, spending money like it grows on trees, taking lavish vacations, killing good paying jobs, telling lies, one after another .
    Lets get to work – wake up your friends, neighbors- make sure everyone is registered to vote.
    We can do it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We MUST do it to save our freedom and constitution – we are in the crosshairs of destruction and the fema camps !!!!!!!!!!!

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    • TimeToLoadThePitchforks
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:45pm

      you can’t rely on the GOP they will wimp out like they always do. the only way to turn this around is the proverbial “pitchforks in the streets” If you think any of these people have your best interest at heart then you are foolish. This will not be repealed. None of these people that are supposedly on the side of conservatism have the balls to do anything. The only time they will take action, real action, is when they are awakened from their beds in DC to millions upon millions of angry pitchfork carrying Americans in the streets

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 10:12pm

      The republicans have just admitted this is a good campaign issue. You think they will repeal it before November? They would rather use it as an election tool than actually get rid of it.

      Romney keeps saying “repeal and replace”. Uhhhh, replace with WHAT??? I am not thrilled about a republican version of obamacare

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    • moonbat666
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 12:47am

      Haha, FEMA camps? I am just so happy this law is now in effect because I am sick and tired of my tax money going to pay for FREELOADERS who go to the emergency room for their health care. The rest of us have to pay higher premiums and payments to doctors etc. because of these lazy freeloaders. They don’t buy insurance and then when they get sick, we have to pay for it. Enough already! I pay my own way in life and it costs me tons more money for healthcare because of these selfish people. If this is what it takes to get them to pay their fair share, then so be it.

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    • Out of the Ashes
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 4:28pm

      Get ammo before the price goes up.

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    • 1956
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 6:11pm

      @MOONBAT666

      Seriously? Obamacare will not be taxing the people who don’t buy insurance in the first place…. tax what, their welfare checks? Ha! Don’t make me laugh. It’s the middle class who will be footing the bill – and it will cost us more than what we have now. It already IS!

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    • wake_up07
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 8:45pm

      Whys is this so hard to understand? My seven yr old gets it!

      In MA there was only about 1% of the population who could afford Healthcare Ins. and decided not to get it – they get FINED or taxed if you want!

      The poor who don’t qualify for Medicaid can get a $4K subsidy to pay for a much reduced & competitive State Exchange plan. In fact Vermont’s Gov was on TV today saying that they will use the 80/20 Fed/State subsidy to set up a Single Payer – Medicare for All Exchange!

      If your Company provides Insurance – you get to keep it! Cobum says that Companies will stick everyone on the Exchange… REALLY?? Does anyone really thing that these Companies will refuse the Fed Subsidy? Right! If anyone needs a bridge let me know…

      Also Coburn forgot to add that the ACA has forced Big Insurance to send back rebates for Premium $$ not spent on YOUR Healthcare. They MUST spend 80% of your Premium on your Care. No more Bg Insurance Advertising, CEO Bonuses & Lobbying “expenses” with your Premiums!

      You would think by now that the “socialism” argument has been used up.

      Like our socialist roads, parks, fire depts, police depts, schools, state universities, libraries, veteran hospitals, public transportation, and public utilities… we use some form of socialism every single day of our lives and the Republic has been going strong since Franklin instituted the First Public Library in 1790! Damn those Socialist Founders!

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    • StanO360
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 3:29pm

      Wake – you said “roads, parks, fire depts, police depts, schools, state universities, libraries, veteran hospitals, public transportation, and public utilities“ are ”Socialized”. That is a broad interpretation. You’ll note that almost everything you mentioned is LOCAL. The farther the decision gets from the source of the money the worse it gets. And health care is the size of all of these rolled into one!

      And it should also be pointed out that many municipalities and states are getting pushed to the brink by police and fire salaries. Is the VA our template for health care? Public transportation . . . a wasteland of subsidy. State Universities, also a wasteland of Union waste, and out of control spending.

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    • Ludwig53
      Posted on July 2, 2012 at 3:47pm

      @wake_up 07 below: It amazes me sometimes that the majority of people, conservative or liberal fail to grasp the basic concept of government and it’s sole and true function.
      James Madison, Father of the U.S. Constitution, illustrated “federalism” in Federalist No. 45 (9th para):
      The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people.

      One might make a case for the Federal interstate road system as being involved in preparation for war as Eisenhower stated, but roads in general fall under supervision/provision of the individual states. Police depts, fire departments, public transportation etc all fall under state and local discression.

      As to Franklin and the origional library…………those books were privately purchased by Franklin et al.

      No, the socialism argument has not been used up. The states can do what they want. The Federal Government has (at least for now) very limited powers.

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  • kangaroo
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:19pm

    Dang this character thing can’t count. here is the last bit to the other stat. If I had half a brain I would of quoted myself LOL

    Or about jobs when he has never really had one? And when it’s the same for 92% of his senior staff and closest advisers? They’ve spent most of their time in academia, government and/or non-profit jobs or as“community organizers”. They should have been in an employment line.

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  • Constantine Ivanov
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:15pm

    It’s too late to ask. Joe McCarthy was smeared and slandered in 1954, and Republicans did nothing to stop that dirty Libs campaign. Now, all of a sudden, awoken: “do we want to become a socialist country?” But the train is already gone…

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  • Truthmonster
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:12pm

    Billions and Billions of dollars of fraud in MediCare every year! Can you imagine what would happen if ObamaCare isn’t repealed. The Death panels will select whether you live or die based on your political party. The Death panels will be nutty liberals. Nuff Said!

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    • stumpy68
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 10:00am

      Not Death panels “compassionate care advisers” Lol
      trust the liberals to give it a name that hides the truth

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  • Truthmonster
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:09pm

    Colburn is a Dr. and a wise man. Romney needs to put him in his cabinet.

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  • kangaroo
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:02pm

    Sorry it took a bit of wrangling to get all that message in, and it missed some

    National Health Insurance?

    U.S. NO
    England YES
    Canada YES

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  • AllLost
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:59pm

    I am afraid that a majority of the American people want to be taken care of at this time. They have become feeble minded and willed.

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    • TimeToLoadThePitchforks
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:17pm

      you sir are exactly right…..ding,ding,ding what do we have for Johnny?!!!

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    • normalmom
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:23pm

      Not all of us and if we can group together and vote together this can be taken out. If we cannot get everyone to vote together the lemmings will succeed in getting obama re-elected. Only other way to not die as a FREE country would be another revolution.

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    • TimeToLoadThePitchforks
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:29pm

      I think it will come to the former

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    • moonbat666
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 1:12am

      The people who want to be taken care of are the lazy,irresponsible ones that refuse to pay for their own care and expect the rest of us to to pay for it and as a result we then have to pay higher premiums etc. I am sick of it! If they refuse to buy health insurance, I say the heck with them. I have been without health insurance for about two thirds of my life because I was self-employed and just could not afford it. I never ONCE went to the hospital and expected anyone else to pay for it!

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  • kangaroo
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:59pm

    Check this last set of statistics!!

    The percentage of each past president’s cabinet who had worked in the
    private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet.
    You know what the private business sector is — a real-life business, not a
    government job. Here are the percentages.

    T. Roosevelt … 38%
    Taft ……………40%
    Wilson ……. 52%
    Harding ……..49%
    Coolidge ….. 48%
    Hoover …….. 42%
    F. Roosevelt.. 50%
    Truman …….. 50%
    Eisenhower…. 57%
    Kennedy …… 30%
    Johnson …… 47%
    Nixon ……….. 53%
    Ford …………. 42%
    Carter ………. 32%
    Reagan …….. 56%
    GH Bush ….. 51%
    Clinton ………39%
    GW Bush ….. 55%
    Obama ……… 8%

    This helps to explain this administration: only 8% of them have ever worked in private business!

    That’s right! Only eight percent — the least, by far, of the last 19 presidents!
    And these people are trying to tell our big corporations how to run their business?
    How can the president of a major nation and society, the one with the most successful economic
    system in world history, stand and talk about business when he’s never worked for one?
    Or about jobs when he has never really had one? And when it’s the same for 92% of his senior staff closest advisers?
    They’ve spent most of their time in academia, government and/or no

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    • gooeylewie
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:56pm

      I‘d hardly call Wilson’s time at Princeton as “private business” experience…

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 11:42am

      All they’ve ever worked at, those in Obama’s administration, is learn how to destroy capitalism and being down the USA so they can instill their Marxist Utopia. That‘s all they’ve been educated for. That‘s all they’ve been employed at doing. That’s it.

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    • SCARY313568
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 4:04pm

      That is very interesting but hardly shocking. These fools are absolutely living in a world of tangerine trees and rocking horse skies where marshmellow people eat marmelade pies

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  • EBL
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:55pm

    We have to win the Senate and have Mitt Romney in the white house and fifty committed votes (Mitt’s Veep would break a tie breaker) to make that happen. It is doable. We better get to work.

    And Roberts is Wilsonian. http://evilbloggerlady.blogspot.com/2012/06/thank-you-john-roberts-for-moving-my.html

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    • Heffe44
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:10pm

      You’ll need 60 votes… the Dems will still be able to filibuster the repeal. Have you been watching the Republicans in the Senate the past 3 1/2 yrs? How can you not know what a filibuster is?

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    • BelindaB
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 5:47pm

      Agreed !!

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    • Alessandre
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 8:12pm

      @heffe44: tax bills require simple majority & cannot be filibustered. this could be on BHO’s desk in a few weeks or less.

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    • Todd P
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 8:37pm

      Actually, you do not need 60 votes if you use Reconcilliation – the same technique they used to pass it in the first place. All you need is 51 votes. This is widely discussed on Talk Radio by the likes of Bill Bennett and Hugh Hewitt – both of whom know this stuff forwards and backwards. It was also discussed by Paul Ryan on these same shows.

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  • kangaroo
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:45pm

    I thought I would post this, if anything it will explain what will happen with obama care that even a lib can understand. I can relate being from Oz.

    There are actually two messages here. The first is very interesting, but
    the second is absolutely astounding — and explains a lot.

    A recent “Investor’s Business Daily” article provided very interesting
    statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health
    Organization.

    Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:

    U.S. 65%
    England 46%
    Canada 42%

    Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment
    within six months:

    U.S. 93%
    England 15%
    Canada 43%

    Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:

    U.S. 90%
    England 15%
    Canada 43%

    Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:

    U.S. 77%
    England 40%
    Canada 43%

    Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:

    U.S. 71
    England 14
    Canada 18

    And now for the last statistic: National Health Insurance?
    U.S. NO
    England

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:10pm

      pretty informative

      maybe that explains steelheads problem ………………he is STILL waiting for a brain

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  • Pray for USA
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:41pm

    I hope Coburn is correct on this.

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    • muffythetuffy
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:47pm

      The GOP is lying.

      Every law passed by Congress to repeal Obama Care will be declared un-constitutional by the US Supreme Court. Pass one hundred repeal bills and each will be vetoed by the Supreme Court . That is what was done to all the Proposition laws passed in California to end racial preferences in contracts and college admissions.

      The only way to end Obama Care is to vote the Federal Government out of existance.

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    • hi
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:53pm

      They can’t filibuster it because it is a tax that they are repealing. Romney said he will issue exemptions to all states the first day he is in office, then repeal the entire tax.

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:59pm

      @Muffy
      There is a difference between a bill that takes AWAY a right and a bill that estabishes a new law or bureaucracy. In the Citizens United decision, there is nothing congress can do, because the Supreme Court ruled that campaign contributions are covered under the freedom of speech. In the Obamacare ruling, the Supreme Court ruled that the bill does not violate the constitution. It did not rule that the bill it self was PROTECTED by the constitution. In fact in the decision itself Roberts wrote that the way to get rid of this law was through elections.

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    • therealconservative
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:22pm

      @muffy

      So your solution is anarchy?

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    • muffythetuffy
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 9:26pm

      Pray for the creation of a new homeland for those who wish to be free here in North America. The descendants of Western Europeans who created America can not stay here and survive. We will have to fight again for liberty and freedom right here. The price may be too great but the price must be paid.

      Pray for this.

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  • TimeToLoadThePitchforks
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:33pm

    the only way that this country reverses direction now is to get out the proverbial pitchfork. There are too many takers now. That is just what is needed for socialism/Marxism/communism to take hold. For over 4 decades now the government has had control what what children learn in school and the communists in charge of the Department of Education have relentlessly pounded their socialist/communist/marxist values into the heads of young Americans. Those children now have the vote and this country is in real trouble. These people that can vote have been taught that their government will provide everything for them from cradle to grave because that is what they have been taught that their government is supposed to do. It will been nearly impossible to turn this around at the ballot box. “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants” Thomas Jefferson 1787

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    • muffythetuffy
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:43pm

      HOW CAN WE TRUST THEM TO DO WHAT THEY PROMISE

      Bush turned his back on us. John McCain plunged his knife into our backs with his Amnesty and is still doing it. Blacks and Hispanics refuse to vote GOP yet the GOP treats them as their best friend as they shove their middle finger in our face. Even Romney shoves his middle finger in our faces and as less to say about Obama than he did about Santorum, Gingreich, Paul, or any TEA.

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    • TimeToLoadThePitchforks
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:50pm

      We can‘t trust them and I won’t defend any of them from either side. They ALL need to go!!! and anyone that should replace them should be in fear every day they serve if their intent is to destroy this country as this administration has done now for over three years with absolutely no repercussions. Get ready to lose many more of your rights. it’s coming and unfortunately we are again stuck with the choice of the lesser of two evils in this upcoming race.

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    • moonbat666
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 1:02am

      OK great. Lets have another civil war,the other one worked out so well. Seriously, fighting over the rights of American citizens to not have to die because they cannot afford health care? Really???? Maybe I am stoopid, but I would rather pay my taxes to insure poor people than to pay for health care for the lazy, irresponsible, freeloaders that don’t purchase insurance and then go to the emergency room and the rest of us responsible citizens have to pay for it, you can thank the god Ronald Reagan for this situation.

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  • TLS
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:30pm

    We have a leadership deficit ! There is nothing new here just look at world history. If it won‘t work in your home it won’t work in government cut your credit cards up. When your house fills with crap you don’t raise the roof! You clean the crap out.

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    • muffythetuffy
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:53pm

      No, we have a Government deficit. The only way you will ever end Obamacare is when you end the Federal Government. The Government and its Courts will never allow Obamacare to be repealed. Never! Together the EPA and Obamacare revoke the US Constitution and sets up a dictatorship. Did anyone ever think the EPA would become what it has. Obamacare is the finishing touch on the total take over of the USA by Communists without firing a shot. Wait until the FEMA camps open up. Do you know non of their showers have water?

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  • slr4528
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:08pm

    Even if Romney becomes president and we keep the House majority..we are screwed if we can’t win the Senate. Everyone needs to really focus in on all Senate races.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:13pm

      Understood.

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:17pm

      I am pretty sure Republicans will pick up the seat for Montana. It is not looking good for Tester! Obamacare is extremely unpopular here and Obama‘s approval rate is in the 30’s. There are adds running day and night how Tester votes 95 percent with Obama. And particularly that he voted for Obamacare and then against repealing it. He is currently down by double digits.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:18pm

      Let’s all get on democrat welfare, yay !!!!!!!!

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    • marcus_arealius
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:21pm

      Can someone elaborate on a veto-proof Senate? Is it 2/3 can override a president’s veto? And thus if the House and Senate are party controlled, the president has no necessary final power to strike down a bill? Did the Senate not do this to Reagan on the Big Dig bill (which turned out in fact to be totally corrupt as Reagan predicted when he vetoed the bill).

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    • rickc34
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:27pm

      Vote Obama and the left out

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:28pm

      Veto is 2/3 majority. But we will only need a majority is Romney wins the pres. I am sure he won’t be vetoing any bills put on his desk by conservatives.

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    • honor007
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:30pm

      pretty sure Sherrod Brown is a goner here in Ohio. They flew him back from his mom’s funeral to vote for Obamacare. He is d.o.n.e.~

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    • Todd P
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 8:45pm

      Agreed.

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  • Eric_The_Red_State
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:00pm

    Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

    Winston Churchill

    “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”
    ― Alexis de Tocqueville

    “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. ― Alexis de Tocqueville

    Greece – Here we come

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  • orlandojon
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:59pm

    The perfect storm has now formed, Obamacare, Economy and illegal amnesty will all cost King Obama his crown

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    • SocialistSlayer
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:06pm

      Really? King Obama controls the military & the Justice system – what is going to stop himself from declaring martial law and staging a coup?? You don’t think the wimps we call fellow citizens are going to rise up and do anything do you? Take your Liberty for granted and this is where it gets you!

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:18pm

      Armed Americans

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:30pm

      Remember a majority of the military are conservative and liberals as a group are generally not armed. If Obama tried this, it would be civil war for sure, with libs seriously outgunned.

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    • socialism.rocks
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:32pm

      conservatives are traitors since the get go you are about to get yours

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:02pm

      @Socialism
      And just where in the world and at what part of history, has Socialism ever WORKED, let alone rocked. LOL

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    • 22hornet
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:12pm

      socialism.rocks (since the get go you are about) What are you a 2 year old

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    • Master.Debater
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 10:23pm

      Slayer, Do you really think the Military would “have his back” if he tried to ban elections or stage a coup like in a banana republic? Get real.

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    • Todd P
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 9:02pm

      I dunno…. The November election ballots will be counted in Spain by a company who supports Obama. Why stage a coup when all he needs to do is steal the election?

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  • Eric_The_Red_State
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:52pm

    I can only hope he’s right. Now if the Republican party were SMART – they would come up with an ALTERNATIVE that makes sense!

    I mean – there are some REAL needs in Healthcare reform. But FIRST we need to weed out the cheats – the crooks – the lazy – the ILLEGAL – the able to afford it – the able to work – Gilligan – the Skipper too – The Millionaire – and his wife – the movie star – the professor and Mary Anne – wait … what…

    ANYWAY – come up with an ALTERNATIVE — don’t just kill the bill without some OTHER PLAN.

    Just saying

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    • Red Meat
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:02pm

      The RINO’ is a lazy beast. No alternative will be proposed. SSDD with these traitorous POS RINO’s.

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:15pm

      Health care is actually VERY easy to reform. We need to go BACK not forward. People used to pay cash for healthcare and were not dying in the streets. What changed? First of all law suits! Easy fix – tort reform, loser pays, caps on fees and pain and suffering awards. Second, we got involved with third party payment. A third party is insurance companies and the government! When someone else picks up the bill, you stop caring about cost, you stop caring about taking care of yourself (obesity, smoking, unprotected sex, drug use); after all you aren’t paying for it. And health care declines because the person paying for it is not receiving the care, thus does not care if the services are good. We could set up a safety net (at the state level) for those with severe disabilities and pre-existing conditions. And the rest of us could have catastrophic coverage and health savings accounts. Go back to ownership of our healthcare. When you strip out the cost of malpractice insurance and the 6 extra employees needed to bill third parties, health care is actually reasonable. I pay cash and thus get a discount. Doctors visits cost $45, vaccines $14.13. x-rays $100, stiches $75. Health care is not expenses for most people, but the cost of the bureaucracy is what makes it expensive. Also, for the poor on Medicaid, we could issue debit cards (so no more billing) and give cash insentives if they keep the cost down.

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    • Alessandre
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 8:39pm

      @MTCountryGirl: if you‘re able to pay cash then I’m happy for you but healthcare is qualitatively different than it was in the past & it’s not going to change. people live longer because small problems are caught sooner. we live better because new treatments make it possible: Flannery O’Connor died of lupus @ 39. I have lupus & because of new treatment might live to be 100. but that new treatment is more expensive: each round of chemo is $30,000. I can afford it only because I pay for premium healthcare.

      I think you’re right, we do need to own our own health care. we need to accept it’s like rent, something we will need at some point for some reason. tort reform, removing duplicate (or triplicate or more) regulations; making health insurance portable so if you’re willing to pay the bill, you can take your insurance w/ you, making it possible to buy insurance across state lines, reforming insurance companies so their foolish regulations & rules stop raising the cost of medicine, addressing corruption & fraud as well as many other changes would drive down the cost of healthcare. but health insurance is important. we can’t know the future: the drunk driver who kills himself but leaves one wounded, the unknown disease that becomes active due to an unknown trigger, the cancer that pops up even when one has lived a healthy life, the congenital heart problem that shows up when you’re 30. we can‘t go back cause medicine won’t go back & let’s face it, who wants to die e

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    • Alessandre
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 8:42pm

      early? (post truncated)

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:50pm

    Everybody with their hand out for freebies WANTS SOCIALISM……………….

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    • socialism.rocks
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:31pm

      the founders invented modern progressivism socialism liberalism they did kill the traitors of the time torries you fricken conservatives i got my guns ready anyday its open season i am going to do exacty what my family did in the american revolution

      you torrie conservatives have been enemy of the republic since 1610

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    • DIR
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 4:00am

      @SOCIALISMSUCKS: i got my guns ready anyday its open season i am going to do exacty what my family did in the american revolution.

      What did your family do in the revolution, smell car seats?

      I’d be very careful with those guns. When you play with them one could go off and you might get hurt, or you might even kill yourself, if that’s possible. However, it may be to late, you kinda already sound brain dead. In any event you should check yourself into a medical facility and have them diagnose you. Maybe your just nuts, in that case you souldn’t be handling fire arms at all

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    • Alessandre
      Posted on June 30, 2012 at 8:45pm

      @SocialismRocks: “the founders invented modern progressivism socialism liberalism”

      and how was that? please provide evidence to support your argument. what you have provided has dissipated into gibberish.

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  • rpp
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:49pm

    This is good, but the cat is already out of the bag. SCOTUS has ruled that the Federal Government can compel anyone to do anything merely by adding an IRS penalty to it, calling it a tax. In fact, that is EXACTLY what Justice Ginsberg wrote in her ruling. Freedom and liberty are gone. They have been replaced by the concept of penalties and and calling it “freedumb”.

    The only correct solution is a constitutional amendment.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:55pm

      I have a major question: “Can Supreme Court Justices be impeached for violating their oath to uphold the Constitution?

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    • Todd P
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:57pm

      Yes, one written by Constitutional Conservatives – and soon.

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    • Todd P
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:58pm

      @ MIL MOM:

      Good Question! I don’t know the answer, but it might be worth calling someone like Bill Bennett or Hugh Hewitt – they would surely know.

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    • salvawhoray
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:58pm

      Or start cutting some heads and letting them roll.

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    • SocialistSlayer
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:08pm

      If you impeach roberts ; obama will appoint someone even worse!

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    • justangry
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:34pm

      Everyone, I’m just as mad as you. I don’t quite understand everything either, like most of you. Lawyer buddy of mine told me to take a chill last night. He said, that the fact it wasn’t upheld with the commerce clause was substancial. He believe Roberts has something up his sleaves, but wasn’t sure what. Perhaps this it is… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyLU9-VqVxY&feature=youtu.be

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  • Steven63
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:43pm

    The passing of Obamacare is perhaps the greatest gift to the American People. Here’s why:

    The only way now to keep this thing from being implemented is to throw out the dems in the house, senate, and White House. That means, the people get their turn to voice what they think of this ‘law.’ With their vote, they can elect a majority of Republicans in both houses and give them the White House. This, and this alone will send the message that America DOES NOT WANT this and that we are proving it with our vote.

    If we don’t do this we are basically resigning America to doom.

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    • Todd P
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:55pm

      It is truly our last chance. Sad, though, that Roberts brought us to this. Even sadder still that some bloggers on The Blaze insist on writting in the name of Ron Paul – knowing that this is in fact a vote for Obama and the Dems. They claim to be for the Constitution, yet they are helping to kill it. Hypocrites!!!

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    • justangry
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:25pm

      @Todd, The GOP could have thrown us a bone. Romney’s pandered to everyone else. Besides, I believe you’re fooling yourself if you think Romney cares anymore about the Constitution than Obama. Of course my position to back this up is habitually deleted by the Blaze, so I have to leave it at that.

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    • Todd P
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 8:43pm

      Well, I hope Romney does. He seems to, IMHO. Time will tell. But then again, I thought Roberts was a true conservative too……

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  • AvengerK
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:40pm

    This it the beauty of Roberts’ decision. By making Obamatax a tax it cannot be filibustered, a majority vote in both houses will carry the repeal. And then Barack Obama will of course veto it and have to tell Mitt Romney and the entire nation why he didn’t stop the biggest tax hike on the middle class in US history that is already raising their insurance premiums.
    Obama will bludgeoned with this for the next 5 months.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:51pm

      Assuming Harry Reid brings it to the floor, what’s the chances of that happening?

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:21pm

      Hi Gonzo,

      I think the “crux of the biscuit” lies in Coburn’s assumption that the Senate (he calls it Congress) is taken back in 2012 along with the White House.

      “Well, I don’t think it’s going to have that much because my hope is that the American people are going to replace the president and give the conservatives control of Congress and I think we’ll repeal it,”

      Lets not stew in our own pot and lets take back the Senate and the WH.

      Have some Faith oh Great Bow Hunter.

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  • allensmithee789
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:40pm

    “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”
    ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America see http://www.wimp.com/thegovernment for a 10 minute video on why we must remain the sole republic in the world.

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:48pm

      I believe our Republic has been dying slowly over the last 3 1/2 years and this HC bill has stabbed it in the heart. I’d be very surprised if this can turn around and even more surprised if we have an actual election. Too many Republicans seem impotent or just don’t care enough to stand up to all the impeachable offense Obama has done. They are profitting off of their positions and just do not care about the American people. Besides Col. West, who has stepped forward in a powerful way to tell the truth.

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    • Red Meat
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 6:07pm

      This would be the same Col. West(Ret) that voted for the NDAA and Pigford? That Col. West(Ret)?

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    • therealconservative
      Posted on June 29, 2012 at 7:12pm

      @RED

      NO, that would be LTC West, who has done more to defend this country and the Constitution than your sorry civilian a$$ could every image.

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    • moonbat666
      Posted on July 1, 2012 at 1:33am

      haha, as if.

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  • jhrusky
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:38pm

    We can only hope … I won’t hold my breathe, though … too many progressives infiltrated the Rep party.

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  • allensmithee789
    Posted on June 29, 2012 at 5:38pm

    “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
    ― Alexis de Tocqueville

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