Does Mississippi Have a Chance at Redefining Personhood and Banning Abortion With Next Week’s Vote?
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On election day next week, Mississippians will not only vote for a new state leader but also the definition of personhood, a story which The Blaze began to cover last month.
Initiative 26, if passed, would redefine a person in the Mississippi constitution as “every human being from the moment of fertilization, cloning, or the functional equivalent thereof.”
And while Colorado has tried twice and failed to redefine personhood to be as basic as egg and sperm uniting, some believe Mississippi may have a better chance. As Nature News reports, both men running for governor — republican and democrat — and the state attorney general, a democrat, have come out saying they believe human life begins at conception, endorsing Initiative 26. NPR reports initiative supporters casting a wide net to spread the word:
Les Riley has worked on the initiative for years, gathering signatures to get it on the ballot. Now, in northwest Mississippi, he’s talking to voters and assembling yard signs that urge the passage of Amendment 26.
“We started out with no money [and] four families in my living room and we ended up with over 2,000 volunteers spread all the way across Mississippi,” Riley says.
Part of Riley’s strategy is going door to door in small towns like Senatobia.
Even with a slew of support from religious groups and citizens, there is naturally opposition. NPR reports that opponents say the amendment to the constitution wouldn’t just redefine personhood and therefore ban abortions and stem cell research, but that it covers more:
They contend the language is so broad and vague it could ban some forms of birth control like IUDs and the morning-after pill. They also say it could affect how doctors treat ectopic pregnancies and throw into question fertility procedures.
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The Mississippi State Medical Association won’t support the measure, and others directly oppose it, including Doctors Against MS 26. Infertility specialist Randall Hines says theoretically doctors could be charged with murder if an embryo or fetus dies.
“The question would be … [if] anybody [is] actually going to prosecute you for murder,” Hines says. “I would hope not but I think to leave it to a local prosecutor to decide who he‘s going to prosecute and which issue he’s going to prosecute on doesn’t make any sense.”
NPR goes on to state that proponents of the initiative would expect their legislature to work out the details after it is passed. Nature News reports Jennifer Mason, communications director for Personhood USA, as stating that the initiative would not going to ban in-vitro fertilization or contraception but would just make it illegal to take a pill or conduct a procedure that would kill a person.
Whichever way the Mississippi vote goes, you can bet other states will be taking note. Nature News provides this infographic (below) showing that similar proposals to redefine personhood could make it onto ballots in other states as well.
Watch this local news report detailing the controversial amendment for which voting is now less than a week away:
























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Comments (104)
DarthMims
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 12:22pmJust another example of the state trying to run people’s lives, take away our rights, and make decisions on health care when trained medical doctors say its a bad idea. Wait, I’m against all those things, right?
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 2:40pmBABY killing. It’s been a cult-favorite of many religions that reject the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. In ancient times, pagan prostitutes would burn their babies in fire to Molech, or kill them and burry their dead bodies in jars under the place of worship to their demon gods.
Today LIBERALS have taken up the insatiable lust for baby-killing (since they, too, reject the God of the Bible). Only now, they cloak their passion in “Liberty” and “personal freedom” – which is basically a re-definition of those words to mean CONVENIENCE. Because that is what the vast majority of abortions come down to. The worship of SELF.
Report Post »bruce_baker
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:14pmBy “our” rights, you’re including the rights of persons not born yet, right? Or do you stand with those who condone abortion up to, say 10 minutes before labor commences?
Some folks should be looking around for mill stones in preparation for their swim in the sea. Jesus said that it would be better to hang a mill stone around your neck and cast yourself into the sea than to harm an innocent. I believe that’s the final word on this issue.
Report Post »steveh931
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 12:16pmThe Representatives of the people need to come together for a vote on issues such as this and discuss the arguments for and against. The only way a state can make sure a law like this will stand and not be challenged is knowing that the U.S. Constitution has been Amended to support such a law, by a two-thirds vote in both houses of Congress and a three-fourths vote by all states.
Report Post »tzion
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 11:10amThe only change I would make is I would hold that if the pregnancy is threatening the mother’s life, the fetus should be treated as an attempting to kill the mother and should either by removed (late term) or aborted (early term).
Report Post »Bill Fortenberry
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 11:08am“The inalienable right to life possessed by every human being is present from the moment of initial formation, and all human beings shall be entitled to the equal protection of persons under the law.” Learn more at: http://www.personhoodinitiative.com/about-personhood.html
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 10:59amKill The Babies and Save the whales!!! Dang we got some messed up priorities.
Report Post »majahn
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 12:59pmToo bad your mother didn’t have a coat hanger…….
Report Post »HumbleCitizen
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 2:06pm@ majahn
Report Post »You are one messed up dude. You have no problems with killing human preborn babies but cry a river over animals (If you’re not vegan would the word hypocrisy apply?). I would hold off on any “coathanger” comments when you make statements like this >> “I‘d eat a person before I’d eat a dog or cat…..I’d much rather munch on one of your kids, I bet they are nice and tender”
Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 8:11pmTo Bad the best part of you ran down your father’s leg majahn.
Report Post »rolla020980
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 10:37am“They contend the language is so broad and vague it could ban some forms of birth control like IUDs and the morning-after pill”
Bottom line… If you don’t want to get pregnant, DO NOT HAVE SEX!!!! If you do, then you are accepting the chance that pregnancy will happen. Period.
Report Post »Nlitend1
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 11:14amSo you would allow abortion in the cases of rape?
Report Post »What about if the woman told the doctor she had been raped just to get an abortion?
You would outlaw abortion for women who had pregnancies that threatened their lives though.
Have you thought about this at all?
GiveUsJustice
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 11:39amNlitend1
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 11:14am
So you would allow abortion in the cases of rape?
What about if the woman told the doctor she had been raped just to get an abortion?
You would outlaw abortion for women who had pregnancies that threatened their lives though.
Have you thought about this at all?
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So saying “I now will have to get a job to support a child” threatens someone’s life?
Just making the statement of “threatens someone’s life” isn’t very complete.
I believe if it is clinically proven the mother IS GOING TO DIE, then this is a different story. That is not how all abortions are looked at though.
Do we kill Cancer patients or people in nursing homes because someone at some point will have to take care of them? Why not? Of course that is an extreme example, but so is saying “I can handle having a baby into my life right now. Kill it”.
Now, in the case of rape? So you are saying, kill the baby that had no choice in this, but let the rapist live that had a choice? Good lord, talk about priorities that are backward.
Now, all of this can be analyzed and 300 different situations can counter another, but that is what the vote is for. Many people looking at the situation in a lot of different ways.
Example: Would I live in California? NO I know they have to many libs that vote stupidly. That is my opinion, so I wouldn’t live there. MY CHOICE.
Report Post »OneofMany
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 12:36pm@Nlitend1 – You have OBVIOUSLY not done ANY research yourself… ASK women who have been raped and had the child and they almost UNANIMOUSLY say it is the ONLY good thing that came from the experience!! Those who abort almost UNANIMOUSLY feel both violated AND Guilty (for the murder of an innocent child)… there are LOTS of parents who WANT to take care of those babies… people who CANNOT have children… but instead people like you want to throw them in the trash can. And in doing so you injure yourself even more in addition to the injury to the unborn person.
Report Post »GeoffTN
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 1:29pm@Nlitend1 – points well taken. Nothing changes the very big REALITY – when is this a human life? In my opinion, rapists should be EXECUTED by civil authorities when proven guilty, but the result of that event does not justify taking an innocent human being’s life as well. No, I do not want to deal with a victim pregnancy in my wife or daughter as the result of this violent action, but its result still does not condemn the child – PERIOD, who did nothing wrong.
In the event of the horrific quandary of having to chose between the life of the mother and the life of the child, that is actually a question of how the attending physician has to deal with that reality; those caregivers should not be handstrung by anything but the reality that they are dealing with human life in both cases and they indeed have to gravely weigh their responsibility with the utmost respect for their charges.
In the end, this is moral avoidance, and we now have 60 million DEAD AMERICANS. 60 MILLION in 37 years. We have a HUGE problem, one so disheartening that, like slavery, many people will not look at its reality. Life itself is dishonored, and so the rest of us become subhuman as well. That is the issue, period. That is why Initiative 26 is so critical to each side; when we want to make an exception on who gets to live based on something, ANYTHING, beyond their very humanity, we have already lost of our own humanity. America is a mess, and this issue is the worst of all of the problems.
Report Post »Nasado
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 1:50pm@rolla020980
Report Post »So you are saying that every time a couple decides they want to be intamate with each other, they should be prepared to have a child? So all married couples should not sleep together unless they can support a child. Hmmm, if you are married, you must have a boring relationship. That being said, I in no way support abortion unless in the instance of r ape, inc est, or the life of the mother is in danger. And to OneofMany, your picture is of a male so I am assuming that you are. I too am male and I say how dare you say that a woman who is raped should be forced to carry a child they did not concensually concieve. If they decide that having the child is what they want to do then that is fine but please do not sit there and act as if you have any idea what being ra ped is like or what a woman must go through dealing with the consequences of it. On a final note, I can’t support the bill because ”
goes on to state that proponents of the initiative would expect their legislature to work out the details after it is passed.” I was upset at the Dem‘s for doing this with healthcare and not the Repub’s are trying to do the same thing. Passing a bill to have the details defined only afterwards is insanity. I will never support a bill, no matter what it is, when it is created in this form.
Nlitend1
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 3:02pm@GeoffTN
Report Post »You make good points, and a much better argument than most people. At least you can address this issue by taking the difficulty of some situations into account. Personally, I am against abortion, but I do not like legal or legislated remedies. I don’t like the government taking away this choice. One solution would be to make fetuses viable at an earlier stage. If medical science could extract that fetus after a month and keep it alive, there would be no need for abortion. This type of advance would actually make abortion illegal as well, because Roe v. Wade only permits abortion of fetuses that are not viable. I would love to see as much effort going into science as there is going into politics.
lizmouse
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 10:26amHow long do you think I can deny my husband sex for? We don’t want children for at least 8 yrs or so. Would YOU like to go that long without sharing that closeness with your spouse?
Report Post »Steve0218
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 10:21amI don’t even understand how this can even be a topic of conversation in this country. It is murder in the very worst sense of the word. How much more defenseless could a person be than to be murdered in the womb of their mother. It is evil and if you support it you are evil. If a woman does not want a baby, we know what causes it and we know how to prevent pregnancy. Once you become pregnant you made your decision.
Report Post »majahn
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 1:03pmThey are NOT a person when they can not live outside the mother. Until then, she can do as she likes.
Report Post »Problem with this world is that there aren’t MORE ABORTIONS. There are too many people in the world the way it is, why subject some poor baby to this freaking mess of a world.
wiffs
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 1:37pm@ MAJHAN to bad your mother didn’t have a coat hanger, your idiot.
Report Post »000degrees
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 3:14pm@majahn
Report Post »Weather forecast for Majhan: Looks like rain today, tomorrow, rain…. oh look it’s raining again….what a horrible place you must be in.
asking why
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 9:26ama Yes Vote here and 3 others in my home
Report Post »JRook
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 10:25amRight like Mississippi doesn’t have some real problems it should be working on. Like its school system, general living conditions, health care, unemployment rate 10.6% and on and on. Nah let’s take away the individuals right to privacy and reproductive decisions.
Report Post »jackal
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 11:09amRight like Mississippi doesn’t have some real problems it should be working on. Like its school system, general living conditions, health care, unemployment rate 10.6% and on and on. Nah let’s take away the individuals right to privacy and reproductive decisions
HaHaHa…….I guess I live in a dump of a house :-).I have not been unempolyed in this state in over 30 years.
Report Post »MSMOM
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 1:41pmAs a MS resident I do believe the language is too broad…We have enough welfare babies and getting rid of some forms of Birth Control is ridiculous, a violent crime victim should not have to bear the burden of a child conceived through no fault of their own… Should abortion be used as birth control absolutely not, but there are instances where it is necessary, and anyone who knows anything about politics knows passing a bill to figure out how it will work is plain stupidity!!!
Report Post »Dahart
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 9:00amWait here is the best part….”goes on to state that proponents of the initiative would expect their legislature to work out the details after it is passed.”
Sounds familia…….oh that’s right Nacy Polosi…..”we have to pass the bill to see what’s in it”……how is that working for us?
Report Post »TEARS FOR AMERICA
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 8:52amMississippi has been one of the hotbeds of minority abortions for years, even to the point where they ship in doctors (killers) to cut these unborn to pieces…found out my son’s doctor who birthed him was also performing abortions in Mississippi…may he rest in hell.
As in Israel, so goes America:
Report Post »“The He said to me, “The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is very, very great, and the land is filled with blood and the city is full of perversion; for they say, ‘The Lord has forsaken the land, and the Lord does not see!’
Dahart
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 8:43amLet’s stop for a minute and step back and look at the bigger picture…..there are unintened consequences. By allowing the government to redefine “Presonhood” and passing such a bill we would be opening up a door for government to being able to legislate our bodies any way they see fit.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 11:01amThen turn right around and pass an Anti 4th Amendment bill to force blood and urine samples from Food Stamp Recipients.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 8:36amTerrific, OK, all pregnant women who have no health insurance or can’t afford pre-natal care are invited to move to Mississippi. So are single mothers who can‘t work because they’re busy caring for their children. The good Christians among us will offer food and shelter and health care to make sure all your babies remain healthy, education to help them learn the American way, and here’s the best part, Mississippi won’t ask for a dime of gubmint money to do it, because, well, government spending is out of control.
Report Post »000degrees
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 10:04amThey would remain healthier than if they were killed on what should be their safest place….Their Mothers womb!!!!!!
Report Post »PhunkDaPhish
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 10:20amThis is simply a STUPID argument. Here is one for you, how about those engaging in sexual activity be accountable. Don’t get me wrong, sex is great. For the most part, it is done for selfish reason. Uhh..to feel good. However, I’m prepared that if I were to start a NEW life, I would not be selfish. That life starts at fertilization.
As for women getting knocked up..how about they close their legs until ready to accept the ramifications of their actions?
BTW, there are only two reason why you put a rubber on. 1. to not get an STD. 2. to not start a life.
Report Post »GodHatesFigs
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 8:25amYou are against late term abortions and even earlier abortions? Ok, I can get it. I don’t think you are right to impose your ideology on anyone else, but I can at least somewhat empathize with your position. But let’s get real here, a zygote is not a human life. It’s just not. It would be like calling an apple a tree. They are just not the same thing.
Report Post »Steve0218
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 10:13amwhen does a tree become a tree?
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 10:15amA zygote IS a human life-that is what human life looks like at that stage.[it's not a skin cell, a hair cell-a stomach cell-etc]. it is a human life though it has no consciesness and is not a person.But human life[even when not a person] is protected by the constituional right to life deriving from natural law.[God's laws written in our hearts]..For this reason the abortion pill should also be banned.Human life is good-not bad and in conformity with the life affirming belief that human life is good[we're not a culture of death and destruction] a zygote because it is a human life-should legally have the right to go on living. A lot of humans have no consciousness-people in comas, people who are asleep and people in vegetative states.And people can have deminished capacities. They too are still human and they are alive and they too are protected by the constituional right to life. Personhood is a mack truck now used to allow the destruction of human beings-that is unconstituional and evil-the antithesis of fundamental ethics[life for lifes sake-self evident because all living things strive to live ] That life is good and that life is the primary right of living beings[human] is the foundation of ethics. .When that foundation is demolished[humans no longer have a right to their life]all ethics becomes capricious and arbitray. [what value does society ascribe to you based on societies criteria of what is more valuable then your life-intelligence or cost on the economy,etc
Report Post »PhunkDaPhish
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 10:16amSo, when does life start?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/life
Report Post »encinom
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 10:27amOf course this is nothing more than the GOP and the Christian fringe attempting to gain government control over a person, the tea Party can no longer argue that they are for less government.
This law, is DOA, unconstitutional on its face, it violates Griswold (right to Birth Control), Roe and Casey (Abortion Rights). This bill makes it s crime to be a woman. Are women that smoke while pregant going ot be arrested if they miscarry, must ever miscarriage now be investigated as a potential homicide? What about IV treatments where more than on egg is fertilized, is that now illegal?
Report Post »GodHatesFigs
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 12:02pmWhen does an infant become a toddler? When does the toddler become a young child. When does that child become an adult? The lines are blurry but I’m sure you can tell the difference between an adult and a newborn. Well, you can also tell the difference between a single cell and a fully functioning fetus. The next time you scratch your nose you just killed more “life” than when a zygote that does not implant in the uterine wall as a result of the morning after pill.
Report Post »majahn
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 1:05pmSteve, a tree is not a tree when it is a seed, then it’s a seed.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:58amThe more people rely on government, the dumber and more beast-like they are going to become. Until even in the U.S when (like in China) a toddler can get ran-over by a car and people will stand around as if they can not think for themselves. ["What should I do I don't know?"]
Report Post »Even in China they are now trying a program whereby the government is going to mail a letter to a married couple in seven years which they filed with the government as Newlyweds in hopes to curb the divorce rate. As a result people will just keep a copy of it, and they will know what it says all along and therefore they will not wait for the letter, or there will just be a flood of divorces at the seven year anniversary. But certainly people will put less work into their marriage in their own heart instead choosing to rely on the power of the letter. Therefore the mountains of Chinese marriages will melt until they are small bumps and valleys.
Eliasim
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 8:05amI’ve got a better idea how about at the seven year anniversary they just don a lucky shirt, and bow down before the power of the Oak tree.
Report Post »LOJ
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:50amThis will be an interesting vote, the South is going even more Conservative! God grant us this stand against destroying innocent lives…How much more genoicide of innocent babies will happen due to man’s stupidity and selfishness!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 8:10amThe vote won’t be a true reflection of conservative values in Mississippi, because there is lots of doubt that birth control pills, the morning after pill, IUD’s, and some other forms of birth control will be allowed, or not. That issue should have been resolved first. Even the campaigners for this bill disagree on what it would mean for the use of birth control. Too vaguely written.
Report Post »ireport uderide
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 8:20amIf this law passes it will be meaningless to the Nazi/DemocRAT party and their pro abortion allies.
They will ignore it the same way they ignore any law that gets in the way of their agenda. Occupy Wall Street is a perfect example of their lawlessness.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 11:57amireport uderide
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 8:20am
If this law passes it will be meaningless to the Nazi/DemocRAT party and their pro abortion allies.
They will ignore it the same way they ignore any law that gets in the way of their agenda. Occupy Wall Street is a perfect example of their lawlessness.
Report Post »_______________________________
Bible thumping GOP have ignored the Constitution and Supreme Court. This law on its face is unconstitutional. It violates the Griswold decision, Roe and Casey. this law is nothing more than a feel good measure for those that believe the earth in 6,000 years old.
mikee1
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:46amGod defines personhood. If you do not get in line with GOD, you will lose.
Report Post »proliance
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:44amKilling innocent people is wrong. What’s so hard to understand about that?
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 8:37amAsk the dead Iraqi babies.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:44amCan a state pass a law prohibiting something that is allowed by federal law? I did not know that.
Report Post »HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 9:16amWhat does “allowed by federal law” mean?
Report Post »GodHatesFigs
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 10:07amArticle VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution
Report Post »encinom
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 12:53pmWrong argument, right of a woman to control her body is constitutionally protected. Its not a federal law but a constitutional right that this state law seeks to ban.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 6:10pm@encinom
Report Post »Posted on November 3, 2011 at 12:53pm
‘Wrong argument, right of a woman to control her body is constitutionally protected. Its not a federal law but a constitutional right that this state law seeks to ban.’
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Thank you, I understand now.
SpankDaMonkey
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:40am.
I’m all for Banning the Abortion issue all together. Cause one day those who choose to Abort a child, will at the end of their life Have to Stand before the Man and his Book of Life. And their before God answer his questions…………….
Judge not, least you be judged.
Report Post »sarajake111
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 1:37pmI’d rather let God judge me than a bunch of ignorant mississippi lawmakers thank you very much
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:31amPresident Obama, Democrates, NPR, and PETA are willing to give animals “personhood”, but deny it to the unborn.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:46amThey are also willing to give a smelt, a tiny fish, more importance over an entire population of people in California.
There really can be no other conclusion – democrats, liberals, and progressive hate PEOPLE.
And because most of them are not law abiding themselves, they feel perfectly comfortable standing behind people-killing proposals. They never intend to follow the laws that they create for the rest of us.
Ever wonder how Al Gore could complain about global warming while flying his private jet and living in a mansion? He is just like every other liberal. They believe in THEIR right to life, but no one else’s.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:31amAs 2 of 3 Fertilized Eggs pass through… and as Women have MisCarriages… this Law makes All Women into KILLERS. MANSLAUGHTERS, and MURDERS!
Report Post »You guys are Technical IDIOTS!
proliance
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:42amLaws don’t created killers. But killing defenseless people does.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:43amNot really. You just have a hard time accepting the rights and liberties of people that you have not heard screeching.
If men were able to decide to terminate pregnancies of their children, against the wishes of “the uterus”, we would hear no end from feminazis about how their babies are being killed by brutal and uncaring men.
Report Post »hightide
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:50amDon’t be ridiculous. The crime is in killing an unborn child because you don’t want it.
Report Post »hightide
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:53amDon’t be ridiculous. The murder of the unborn is genocide. It must be stopped now.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 9:09am@PROLIANCE
Report Post »Laws… define Criminal Activity and required Punishment!
@HIGHTIDE
An… Unborn… Child… means that a Child only exists if it is Born!
@SECESSIONISTA
The Constitution defines the requirement of a President to be Born a Citizen. How would you amend this definition,,, where Birth defines a Person… and whence Rights begin?
Steve0218
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 10:17amThat is stupid!!
Report Post »GiveUsJustice
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 11:48amI‘m confused on how a Miscarriage is a woman’s choice?
Who is the technical idiot here?
Who is stumbling into an abortion with no help from any outside source? Think before you post.
Report Post »bruce_baker
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:32pmCan’t you see the difference between a medical accident and a planned killing?
Report Post »noleftturn
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:22am….. “Pass the Bill”
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:36amYes “Pass the bill” that way they can also use your own sword against you to take control of pregnancy out of the hands of people. “But the fetus has the right to the pursuit of happiness as protected in the Constitution, and it can’t do that if it has Down Syndrome, or the parents are extremely poor or uneducated, and therefore for it’s protection it must be altered surgically or removed.” You people through reflex and idiocy are your own problem.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:16amThey have a chance if outside influence is countered with logic, and the feds stay out of it.
We the majority…the minority will soon face the majority at the ballot box. Vote!
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:24amThis has a chance of passing for 1 simple reason. It merges God creation and Alchemy. Cloning is man playing God.
Cloning and genetic manipulation is creating the beast. Just ask Obama.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:29amMany of us here hope this passes.
Report Post »NPR is doing their part to help defeat the referendem by saying the measuure ‘could’ do this or that. I‘m sure NPR isn’t as objective with regards to what abortion ‘could’ or ‘has’ done to our culture and the value of life itself.
I find it interesting that Colorado defeated a similar initiative. Not surprising, though. Many Coloradians are California transplants.
The10thAmendment
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 8:56am@ decendentof56
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:29am
Many of us here hope this passes.
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I believe 100% in the sanctity of life. Life in my mind begins during the act of intercourse, and to kill the conception caused by God is rebellion against Heaven and Gods rule. For that I I hope always for abortion to be stamped out for the scourge that it is.
Genetic manipulation, and cloning is entirely a different story. That comes from the Alchemists trying to play God. Worse, they are trying to toss God from His throne by tinkering with DNA and manipulating telomeres to “give” people eternal life. In order to do this they have to change the language of the genes (change jots and tittles). Nothing good can come from trying to attain the Tree of Life by employing techniques from the Tree of Knowledge, of good and evil.
Report Post »HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:08amGod already defined it. A nation tried to redefine it to allow for mass murder of undesirable populations. NOW that nation is being punished by God. NUFF SAID.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 12:13pmTo bad God doesn’t write the laws in the US. The US is a secular nation, has been since the Constitution was written. Are laws are based on logic and written by men, some mythical sky father has no place in the law making process.
Report Post »sarajake111
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 1:39pmWow you think a bunch of dumb mississippi lawmakers are more powerful than God?? Sounds like Blasphmy to me
Report Post »DanielMartinGray
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:07amIf we do not defend the least of us, those with no power to protect themselves, we are ALL doomed.
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