Like Beck, Russia Notices Google Role in Egypt Unrest
- Posted on February 22, 2011 at 9:39am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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If you’ve read the news lately, you might have heard Glenn Beck has been discussing Google. And while some have incorrectly reported that he is advocating a boycott of the company, the truth is he‘s actually skeptical of the company’s government connections and two of its executive’s involvement in the Egyptian revolution. It seems Russia might agree.
In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, and reported by Reuters, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin’s deputy blamed Google for stirring up trouble in Egypt.
“Look what they have done in Egypt, those highly-placed managers of Google, what manipulations of the energy of the people took place there,” Russian Deputy Prime Minister Igor Sechin reportedly told the Wall Street Journal.
Reuters concludes:
Such strong comment from one of Putin’s most trusted deputies is a clear signal of growing concern among Russian hardliners about the role of the Internet in the unrest which has swept across the Arab world.
Sechin gave no further details on his concerns. Google executive, Wael Ghonim, became an unlikely hero of the uprising in Egypt which led to Mubarak’s deposition.
In contrast to state television, Russia’s Internet is remarkably free and the home to often scathing criticism of Putin, President Dmitry Medvedev and the entire Russian elite.
On Tuesday, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev predicted that unrest in the Middle East could grow.
“These states are difficult, and it is quite probable that hard times are ahead, including the arrival at power of fanatics. This will mean fires for decades and the spread of extremism,” Medvedev said in televised comments.
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fishstx777
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:15amRussia home of the K.G.B. the leaders of russia are calling you out I would be very worried they mean what they say .You can make fun of glenn beck, they on the other hand dont have such a sense of humor.
Report Post »kens
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:09amI would be selling my stock in Google right now. Once the old Soviets draw a bead on something they’re like moray eels – - they’ll never let go. Watch for Stuxnet 1.1 to mysteriously hit the Google network.
Report Post »ILFarmer
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:06amUnlike the US, Russia isn’t too far from the doorstep of the Middle East. They likely see the entire region as a powder keg that will spread to their borders. And I have a feeling that Russia will do something about it and will be anything but good for anyone.
Report Post »Emma Nelson
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:05amAllen West my Hero for today!!! He should be the President
Report Post »BIGGUNS
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:45amPresident Reagan said FREEDOM is a God giving RIGHT! You will never hear Obama say that!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:57amObama does beleive freedom is a God given right, only problem is he thinks he’s God.
Report Post »Koolaiders
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:20amFreedom is a god given right unless you are a Muslim, right?
Report Post »FreedomFighter2006
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 2:11pmKOOLAID… Do some real research before you post any more annoying ficticious comments. When your religion says you need to KILL anyone who doesn’t agree with your point of view, THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS!!! Do you have any idea what your saying or are you just some robot that repeats what it saw or read on MSNBC…? Think! THEN Speak.
Report Post »BIGGUNS
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:43amPresident Bush would be on the air talking about FREEDOM in the Middle east Region, But funny Obama doesnt say Crap!
Report Post »Koolaiders
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:19amPresident Bush is still looking for WMD and to Accomplish The Mission.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:40amGlenn says it: paranoia, hate, and fear-mongering
Someone else says the same thing: Ignore it long as possible, then maybe report it if unavoidable. And Glenn is still paranoid, hateful, and trying to instill fear
Those CEOs at Google might want to be careful. The Russians play for keeps.
Report Post »exdem
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:37amGlenn Beck= Prophet
Report Post »Killa From Wasilla
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:46amMuslim’s believe that every prophet was a Muslim and their respective believing followers were Muslims as well.
Report Post »So you are referring to Glenn Beck as being Muslim? A Radical?
Gonzo
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:29amJust another conspiracy theory right? That Glenn Beck is really nutty.
Report Post »LilAnn2012
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:18amOn of the shows, I heard Glenn say something about Martial Law and using our Military. Glenn said something to the effect that he hoped that our military would not go against the American people. Will they?
Report Post »davecoolworld
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 12:49pmLILANN2012….Not more than 15% will follow illegal orders from Obama. The Military Commanders will have to decide if the orders are legal.
We should worry more about the National Guard being Federalized, thus taking power away from the Governers who disagree with Obama.
Civil unrest is neccessary for Martial Law to be declared. Civil War is what will follow.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:15am1,400 of Islamic Jihad versus search engine?
I am pretty sure Mo and Al are behind this not a search engine.
Report Post »Thunderstorm 316
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:14amDamn now the battlelines are being drawn, and it is happn’n very fast.
Report Post »MAJORMINOR
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:13amLike so many good and useful things in today’s world…eventually chasing the dollar ends up corrupting what was begun as a positive. Follow the money….at google, government, unions, regulations, internet, taxes…..
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:27amYou are so right. When you have so many governments wanting to put a kill switch and other controls on your life source………what better way to survive than to become one of their minions!!
Report Post »firstlast
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 12:54pmThat’s right! If you want to find the corruption, follow the money.
Report Post »weeblewacker1
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 1:38pm**** brothers,glenn beck,fox news, murdock,……
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:13amGoogle?
It has more to do with Islam and Jihad than search engines.
Report Post »RiteOne
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:06amIf you are not being satirical, may I offer you some food for thought?
Society has come to seeking only that which is popular and search engines are at the forefront of this by ranking what is popular. Its quite easy to make multitudes believe revolution is good and ripe simply by seeding the topic and artificially ranking it as the most popular. All you need then is a multitude of dissatisfied people who follow.
Report Post »Dissatisfied? There are multitudes!
Followers? There are multitudes! (success of popularity ranking proves it!)
GodsDotr
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:02amGoogle noun origin from goo, a slimy substance
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:02amI love it, now the “patriots” are aligning themselves with Russia – all because their fearless leader told them to do so. I hope Glennie boy doesn’t take up cliff diving, for your sake. Ha ha.
saneasylum
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:13amYour handle is a misnomer “ simpletruths”, should be simple mind!
Report Post »darkknight91
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:17amI don‘t think anyone’s aligning themselves with Russia. Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.
Now let’s get to who your boy aligns himself with. Saul Alinsky, Karl Marx, Bill Ayers, Muslim Brotherhood, ACORN, Planned Parenthood, Cass Sunstein, Van Jones, Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, Union thugs, New Black Panther Party, Iranian government, etc. Need I go on?
You really should change the last syllable of your handle to “TON”. That’s far more becoming.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:21amI would argue that it is merely staying informed, more than it is following somebody. It is a concept the left will never implement.
Now that Google has been “outed”, the progressive zealots will resort to name-calling until they can shift the focus to the next bastion of propaganda.
What floors me about those on the left is that most think they’re in the “elite” group, or the one that makes all the decisions. They don‘t realize they’re nothing more than useful idiots, but all the while chiding with fervent condescension, those with an opposing viewpoint. Basically, they have the reasoning skills of a young adult.
Report Post »FreedomFighter2006
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:21amHey SIMPLE, go take your idiotic comments over to media matters, they’ll make complete sense to the idiots over there and they even probably even call you a genius… (Just kidding, they’ll probably think your an idoit too).
Report Post »Koolaiders
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:55amNow Russians are the good guys when they hate google! Amazing.
WHY IS BECK STILL USING GOOGLE???????
Report Post »Greyhound424
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:56amPull your head out of your a$$. Use the brain that GOD gave you. MORON.
Report Post »RiteOne
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:15am@SimpleTruth (clearly a misnomer)
Report Post »Such imbisillic statements and inept conjecture implies a mind filled with BELIEFS that belong to someone other than the mind’s owner. So, who is it that you so blindly follow?
Koolaiders
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:23amSimpletruths follows the Koch Brothers puppet masters. Oooops, no – thats Beck!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:30amKoolaiders
Report Post »You’re the only one saying the Russians are good guys. Why are you leftist morons always so hysterical? Forget to take your meds?
Tnredneck
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 6:45pmHey broker,abc etc.. 6 months ago glen beck said the trolls on here will prove themselves idiots…. Kinda spooky as he was right again!
Report Post »saneasylum
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:01amKeep your powder dry !
Report Post »nacilbuper
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:01amGoogle = Ministry of Truth
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:12amYeah, right after it lays the groundwork for Obama’s propaganda machine.
Report Post »weeblewacker1
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 1:55pm@Koolaiders: na,sory! i is a pruod produce of the U.S. pubic skool sistem! and unlike the “great and all knowing” mr beck and his little band of unmerrymen, i kind of enjoy doing my own research and posting it here,which seems to upset so many beckerheads.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 9:59amI AGREE with Glenn Beck about google, for sure. He’s always done things like this.. http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Politics/obama-takes-goldman-sachsthrough-clever-internet-ad/story?id=10426001
Report Post »AND GOOGLE helps the WH in regards to WHAT sites pop up first when you use their SEARCH engine.. try it on controversial people or issues, like BECK or Michele Bachmann.. all the NEGATIVES come up first UNLESS it’s an issue Obama is pushing, then all the GOOD stuff comes up first. Seriously, try it for yourself. It’s unbelievable.
IMPOTUS
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:55amYou’re absolutely right! I noticed this months ago. Glenn, you need to make a search engine buddy! Anyone know of a good alternative?
Report Post »Koolaiders
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:57amI tried it (even though Beck forbids it): Bachmann is a negative because she’s NUTS! Thats why.
Report Post »proudconservative
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:10amHey Koolaiders, was that you I seen in the tiger suit? You really should seek medical help.
Report Post »weeblewacker1
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 12:23pmyou do know that search results go by how many “hits” or “visiters” that have been to that site? it’s just plain and simple.no grand-master plan here,just good old common sense.the more people that visit a site,the higher it ranks or listing.thats why mr.beck always comes up on the negitive side.
Report Post »Koolaiders
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 12:40pm@WEEBLEWACKER1
You clearly are a victim of poor home schooling and its ability to teach English correctly.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 6:27pmAnd you Koolaiders are a simple-minded fool. Go away troll.
Report Post »Star Spangled
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 9:57amSo Putin listens to Beck , too bad Obama doesn’t . He would look so much smarter if he did .
Report Post »rodamaa
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 9:55amI believe that the coming insurrection has started! We need to organize and stay together because very bad people are now making a move on our democracy. We must communicate and express our cocerns now before the pretext happens. Thes SOB’s are waiting for violance to start in order to implement “Top down”
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:01amThey are already implementing Top Down and we are NOT a democracy, WE ARE A REPUBLIC.
Report Post »FreedomFighter2006
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:17am“WERE A REPUBLIC.” We’re more of a semi-republic now beings the constitution continues to be trampled by the idiots attempting to run/ruin our country. There is going to be alot of work to do in 2012 to attempt to fix all that has happened over the last 2 years.
Report Post »Proud AF Oathkeeper
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 9:53amPersonally, I don’t care what Russia thinks. That fact is the dominos are rapidly falling over there and we need to pull our people (troops) back. I fear if we don’t, they will be massacred when this is all over.
Report Post »RiteOne
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:56amI too fear for their safety. However, our troops are not the type to run from trouble. An abandoned mission occurs only when the objective they seek can not be achieved. Pray they make the call with enough time to exit effectively.
Report Post »Teapartywoman
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 9:49amGood Morning SNOWLEOPARD, agree totally.
Report Post »Teapartywoman
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 9:48amAnd those google ex. where just told to get the hell out of Egypt. God I pray you help those who are blind to see and those that see the power to do Gods work.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 9:41amWhen Russia shows concern such as this, things will begin to accelerate in dangerous manners in the near future.
Report Post »Arminianism
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:12amWill the lame stream media finally report on googles ties?? Doubt it
Report Post »theCREATORisGOD
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:21amSeems like Gog and Magog are beginning to align.
You know Glenn’s one sick, twisted GENIUS when rulers from countries such as Russia seem to have the same ideas as him. I wonder if Putin made this google connection after watching that episode of Glenn Beck? Lol. LISTEN UP PEOPLE, as Beck has said he doesn’t know why he can, but he can indeed think like an evil and twisted man and predict the moves of those that are trying to destroy our republic. That is where his faith then takes over and gives him the wisdom to relay it to the American people in their own words.
Still praying for you and your family Glenn, keep up the good work, we need you!
Report Post »Blue_Horseshoe
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:24amNothing to see here folks…just move along
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:32amHey BROKER I bet Russia predicted that was going to happen months ago……or better yet I bet Russia and GB are secretly in cahoots. Ok liberal commentators slam Russia like you do GB c’mon be consistent for once and do it. Oh yeah, that’s right Russia is socialistic so they must be right huh?
Report Post »solaveritas
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:57amRussia is bracing for revolts in Chechnya and other muslim dominated sectors. They are no fools. They are experts at revolution and can see it fingerprints.
Russia might well execute if local google execs get involved, but that won’t stop the “social network” from being used, so Russia is preparing; peace agreement with the Antichrist or 12 imam?
Report Post »abc
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:08amI love it. GB agreeing with other anti-democratic folks in Russia. Takes one to know one. Also, a couple of high level people in a company employing tens of thousands hardly taints the company, which is not coordinating anything. It “taints” those one or two individuals. And by “taint” we mean helped to overthrow a brutal dictator and give Egypt a chance at self governance, self determination and the other benefits of democracy that we claim to want for the Middle East, but really only want for Israel and maybe Turkey (if you are a neo-con).
Report Post »Arminianism
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:08am@KOOLAIDERS
God your stupid, thats what happens when you get your information from mediamatters. I watched Glenn’s show that day. He went on to say that he is not recommending a boycott of Google and that he actually even has business contracts with them, BUT to be cautious of them.
NEVER did he say not to use Google, keep trying a$$ hole!! Try actually knowing what your talking about before you start to form at the mouth again. Blind hatred will get you no where!!
Report Post »LAMET
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:08am@KOOLAIDERS
A HEAVILY EDITED CLIP from MEDIA MATTERS is a waste of time. ONLY IDIOTS believe media matters propaganda. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PAID TROLL
Those of who ACTUALLY listen and watch GLENN – KNOW ITS A LIE. He has Stated QUITE CLEARLY he is not advocating boycotts.
Everything Media Matters posts is a LIE.
Report Post »Koolaiders
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:17am“Don’t do a Google search” sounds like a boycott to me, said in clear precise English.
What else could these exact words mean then? Does Beck not know what he says??? Has he lost it?
Spin this for me please, Becknation…..
Report Post »Arminianism
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:19amTranscripts of the show
“What I’m starting to look at is Google as a whole. They said don’t be evil. What does it mean exactly? What are their motivations. Who are they working with? Where do they get all their money? I’m just not so sure as I look into Goggle that I want to use their products any more than I have to, and some of their products I think I have to.
I’m not leading any boycott. I hate boycotts. You do with your time and information what you want. For me personally I’m not feeling comfortable about the current direction of Google the more I find out. Why? Let me give you a few reasons. First they are working really, really closely with the government. That is OK. They have a close relationship with the NSA. OK. They work closely with law enforcement. Cool with that. Last year they signed a $27 million deal with the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. I don’t even know what that is.
But they have been accused of receiving preferential treatment and a $6.5 million contract with the General Services Administration. They are working hard to bring net neutrality, the kind that we’ve talked about on this program that hard left groups like Free Press are advocating for.
Eric Schmidt, the former CEO, he resigned two weeks ago, he is on the White House council for science and technology, co-chaired by John Holdren. They also have privileged access to NASA airfields.
Second point — they are working way too close with hard-core leftists. Eric Schmidt is on the board of an organization called the Politics of Trust Network. You might recognize a couple of other names on that board like Van Jones, oh, and Drummond Pike, the former CEO and founder of the Tides Foundation.
In 2010 the Google, Inc. charitable giving fund of the Tides Foundation gave over $145 million directly to nonprofits and academic institutions. Google has made donations in the seven figure range to Moveon.org. George Soros is doing that, too, one of farther left political action groups in America.”
Report Post »proudconservative
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:23amGlenn Beck is one very smart person. I am always amazed at the tremendous wisdom and insight of this man. He is a real patriot and is one of the most powerful voices in the world today and that is because what he is saying is truth. The truth carries much more weight and power than position and Glenn is very diligent in finding it and has the backbone to speak it. That shows the state of affairs of the world today that it takes so much backbone to tell the American people what is really going on.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 11:34am@ ABC and KOOLAID………Your inconsistency is absolutely amazing !!!!! you want to point to GB and Russia and assign him as an anti-democratic person because Russia confirmed what he said that Google was in one manner or another involved in the activities of Egypt. It makes no difference if it was one or a hundred they represent that company and have not been disciplined in any way or even denounced that they acted on their own that I am aware of. In fact they were hailed for their involvement. Your simple denial of facts by attacking someone you desperately would like to discredit is as transparent as can be. The facts speak for themselves and you are simply trying to avoid them.
Report Post »abc
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 12:02pmWatch,
You miss the point entirely. Russians who fear political unrest because they lack a democracy are going to make stuff up to distract from the fact that this is a legitimate democracy movement, a groundswell from the grassroots. Don’t you think they see it spreading to China? They have a vested interested in making this out to be something it is not–incitement from above or from outside. The dictators in Russia are not credible. And the convenient fact that they agree with loony Beck should not make his looniness appear less so.
Also, I’d like to know what grounds there are for firing the Google employees? If I want to support freedom and march on its behalf with a bunch of Iranians or Chinese, should I be fired? So if I march with my fellow Egyptians, what is the difference? What about the Tea Partiers, who made Obama sound like Stalin, when in fact he is much better to live under than Mubarek…should those people have been fired as well? Free political expression is now a terminable offense?? Are you kidding me?!?
Report Post »Erik
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 12:21pmYep you know its bad when the Russians are saying things are a mess and pose a risk of getting even worse.
Report Post »neverfinal
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 12:24pm@koolaiders
Go back to the rock you crawled out from, or should I say tides foundation-Soro’s rock. If you don’t want to educate yourself, leave those that do alone. Or is there another Agenda you have in mind. We are all on to you…GOOD-BYE MY FOOLISH ONE
Report Post »neverfinal
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 12:31pmWe have all been switching from google to bing.com Maybe that hasn’t been bought yet?
Report Post »Koolaiders
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 12:37pm@PROUDCONSERVATIVE
Amazing that he is so wise that his ratings are TANKING as fast as he’s been kicked off radio stations around the country. TV viewers are swicthing off so fast that Fox have had to save his butt by putting him on as a guest on Bills show!!!
See this FACT FACT FACT at http://www.politicususa.com/en/glenn-beck-ratings-decline
“Glenn Beck managed to lose roughly a million of his Fox News viewers in 2010, and his slide has continued into 2011. Beck’s viewership numbers have gotten so bad that he has been only able to top 2 million viewers three times in the month of January. Beck has seen his ratings decrease by half, and there seems to be no end in sight for the viewer exodus from his program.” —
He’s an alarmist who takes little bits of facts and pieces them together to make a new conspiracy every day. Dont drink his koolaid.
Next up: Beck predicts the date and time of the next earthquake in LA
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 1:02pm@ ABC…I am truly sorry my friend but you are again inconsistent with past posts. You persecute GB for conspiracy and conjecture and you mean to tell me you actually think the very stable and powerful governments of China and Russia are really so scared of domestic revolution and uprising that they must now concur with GB on Google’s role in Egypt. Seems you are either stretching things a bit like you like to accuse GB of doing or you are agreeing with him that the revolution in Egypt is in danger of spreading to other parts of the world. I guess my only question is which is it. Again I find your positions over and over to be very inconsistent.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 1:07pm@ ABC again let me point out another inconsistency in your response..No one is saying they can’t go “revoltionize” with whoever they want, but when they use a company service or product that is where they can be criticized. Unless of course if the company gives it full approval and support. I didn’t say fire them and neither has GB. Again you love to put words in people’s mouths and leap to assumptions so you can argue down the proverbial straw man, but it simply will not work with me. If I as an executive for acme grenade company want to protest you I am well within my rights, but if I employ the product of my company in my protest I am quite sure you would protest that as an abuse. Unless of course I had the full approval and support of my employer. In that case I am sure due to your consistent nature you would simply say I was exercising my freedom to do so.
Report Post »abc
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 1:30pmWatch,
“@ ABC…I am truly sorry my friend but you are again inconsistent with past posts. You persecute GB for conspiracy and conjecture and you mean to tell me you actually think the very stable and powerful governments of China and Russia are really so scared of domestic revolution and uprising that they must now concur with GB on Google’s role in Egypt.”
Well, yeah. China just shut down rather harshly the jasmine revolution occurring there, and those that know the history of Tiananmen, which is not taught in schools there, the extreme violence from the government came when the workers started to mobilize to join the students. The Chinese know that Maotsedung defeated Chiankaishek and his US allies when he won over the peasants and workers, and they will not tolerate any political activity by those groups in modern China. This is why Avon products cannot sell their make-up there as they do in the US.
Meanwhile, Putin has cracked down on any oligarchs who choose to move beyond making money to asserting political power. And he has thrown folks in jail for even attempting to politicize the monied class.
And I doubt I ever wrote something to contradict this, since these are well-known facts.
“Seems you are either stretching things a bit like you like to accuse GB of doing or you are agreeing with him that the revolution in Egypt is in danger of spreading to other parts of the world.”
You totally miss the argument. I have been saying since day one that this is like Eastern Europe in 1989-190, and that it will spread. I disagree with Beck, who claims that this is a revolution orchestrated by socialists and islamists rather than a grassroots movement like the Velvet Revolution.
“I guess my only question is which is it. Again I find your positions over and over to be very inconsistent.”
Inconsistent, or too nuanced for you? I think I just distinguished Beck from myself yet again. Hopefully it is clearer this time.
“@ ABC again let me point out another inconsistency in your response..No one is saying they can’t go “revoltionize” with whoever they want, but when they use a company service or product that is where they can be criticized.”
So Nike and Levi’s should be criticized for clothing that protestors??
“Unless of course if the company gives it full approval and support. I didn’t say fire them and neither has GB.”
No, GB just says perhaps we should stop using Google search, but hedges by saying he isn’t calling for a boycott. As Koolaid has pointed out, this is as incoherent as GB’s rants. Actually, I’ve no idea what you are saying. Criticize Google if you like, but know that Google hasn’t done anything but sell its wares in those places like everywhere else. To its credit, it left China when that country asked it to further censorship, so I think Google stands for freedom and democracy. And moreso than GB.
“Again you love to put words in people’s mouths and leap to assumptions so you can argue down the proverbial straw man, but it simply will not work with me. If I as an executive for acme grenade company want to protest you I am well within my rights, but if I employ the product of my company in my protest I am quite sure you would protest that as an abuse.”
Throwing a grenade and doing an internet search are not really the same thing. One is legal, while the other is not. You see this, right? And again, I wonder why you attack Google, known for disporportionate donations to the Democratic Party, and Nike or Levi’s, which are not. I think you are missing GB’s subtext–attack all things that give more money to Dems than the GOP, regardless of the tortured logic necessary to make that point.
“Unless of course I had the full approval and support of my employer. In that case I am sure due to your consistent nature you would simply say I was exercising my freedom to do so.”
I think you are missing it. First, you haven’t explained how the Google exec used Google to further the revolution. They actually used Twitter and Facebook, which are different companies. Second, I think you are really failing to show that Google, rather than one or two of its employees, were involved in this. Google as a company did not become activist, but was on the sidelines like Coke, Gillette/PG, Nike and Levi’s, so I don’t see why it is being singled out. If the country rep of Citibank or Western Union had been smart and carismatic enough to become a leader of the revolution, then would you be upset with those companies? I doubt it, since they are not known in DC as Democratic donors. This is all about domestic politics, which is why GB looks so silly making it seem like he is making a more principled argument. Don’t fall into the same trap of stupidity and duplicity.
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Posted on February 22, 2011 at 2:28pmOf course Google is trying to overthrow our country. Do your own research on that. Probably Bing too, since Bill Gates thinks the government should tax rich people more than poor people – pure Marxism.
I’m really trying hard to keep track of all the people who hate America and want to destroy it, the light of truth shone on them by Beck. There are the communists and socialists who have infiltrated America and all levels of government. That’s a given. Same thing happened in the McCarthy era. There is also the Leninists, Stalinists, Trotskyites, fascists and Marxists. Certainly true, but I’m a little confused about the differences between those groups. Then of course there is Piven and Van Jones, both incredibly influential people who want to overthrow our government by violent means. No question. The Tides Foundation is trying to do the same, that’s obvious if you do your homework. Of course the Democrats, Progressives and liberals are carrying water for those guys. Then there’s the puppet master Soros, who is doing everything in his power to make America fail. There are the three hundred or so major corporations that Becks refuses to accept advertisement money from for his show because they’re in the tank with the Marxists and Fascists.
Of course all the unions (especially the teacher’s union) are down with the overthrow America thing, as are community organizers, Planned Parenthood, Code Pink, ACORN and any organization that tries tries to register voters. There is the laimstream media (except for FOX), and every Christian pastor who speaks in favor of social justice. And of course there are the Muslims and all those Mosques that are actually training camps for terrorists. And there is the public school system and the Universities that are indoctrinated our youth into socialism, Marxism and fascism.
Did I forget about Obama, Biden, and the czars? Enemies of the state. Traitors Have I left anyone out? I’m sure I have, please help me keep my list up to date.
And those are just people in our country! I didn’t even get to Europe, China, Russia, all Arab countries, the Muslim Brotherhood and etc. and so on.
I’m not sure at this point if anyone is not trying to destroy our country except for Palin, the Tea Party, and Scientologists and MTV.
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Posted on February 22, 2011 at 2:31pm@ ABC I don’t think I misunderstand a single iota of your condescending remarks that you apparently think are brilliant and “nuanced”. You just can’t seem to stay on topic and you most definitely are inconsistent to the point it is becoming exasperating. Coke, Gillette, Nike, and Levi do not collect the kind of personal information on the masses of people that Google does and can share anytime with politically corrupt people that might want to exploit that information. I can certainly tell you are someone who loves to hear themselves talk and then pat themselves on the back when finished, but you always do the same things give partial truths and misinformation, wrap it up in long posts and then through the typical I am smarter then you and you simply don’t understand my brilliance tactic. Your position that Russia is so worried about a “grass roots” revolution that they are implicating Google falsely was the issue. And WOW your going to equate Nike selling clothes to Google execs trying to influence and promote a revolution. Which they can do, but make no mistake my inconsistent friend if you think Google is not collecting personal information on its users you are simply naive. In this day information is power and whoever controls information has power and given the corrupt nature of those in power I would not trust them any further than I could throw you. And I could care less what companies do anywhere in the world !!!!! My argument is that your inconsistent when you call out GB for making things up and then the Russian government confirms things he has said. Then you in response come up with some lame their scared of grass roots revolution cockamamie answer to defend your critique of him. Which ironically is what you blame GB for doing all the time. I simply pointed out your inconsistency and you have had to do all this bobbing and weaving to defend it. I could care less what Google stand for, but I will say this I wouldn’t trust them with my personal information anymore than a common criminal. I hope that wasn’t too nuanced for you !!!
Report Post »abc
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 3:02pmYou forgot the Mormons. They are not trying to destroy America. And the Boy Scouts. But pretty much everyone else is. So stop blogging and start building your bunker and filling it with food.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 3:08pm@ JZS and ABC……its called fundamentally shape and change not overthrow. But then it does sound better to say overthrow when you are trying to be sarcastic.
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Posted on February 22, 2011 at 3:27pmhttp://other98.com/soros-vs-koch-infographic/
Ream ‘em and weep Glenny boy.
Report Post »abc
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 6:07pmWatch,
This is getting truly painful. This will be my last reply. Some people do not want to learn the facts, but twist everything to fit a strained ideology. You clearly have picked up most of GB’s bad habits.
“@ ABC I don’t think I misunderstand a single iota of your condescending remarks that you apparently think are brilliant and “nuanced”.”
Even if the discoverer of a mathematical proof is a child molester, much less an arrogant ass, it hardly alters the veracity of his argument. But nice try.
“You just can’t seem to stay on topic and you most definitely are inconsistent to the point it is becoming exasperating. Coke, Gillette, Nike, and Levi do not collect the kind of personal information on the masses of people that Google does and can share anytime with politically corrupt people that might want to exploit that information.”
I see. So what information did Google share with politically corrupt people that led to the revolution or caused it to go in a way that you and GB don’t like? See, while you are spinning nonsense about Google and watching GB do the same, the real media, with real folks on the ground, is intelligently reporting how communications companies (e.g., Facebook and Twitter) are enabling and empowering protesters. Google the company and search firm had nothing to do with it. Where is the relevance in what you say? Where is the veracity in what you say? I do not see it and apparently never will. Do yourself a favor and try CNN instead of GB for one night when they are discussing this. You might learn something.
“I can certainly tell you are someone who loves to hear themselves talk and then pat themselves on the back when finished, but you always do the same things give partial truths and misinformation, wrap it up in long posts and then through the typical I am smarter then you and you simply don’t understand my brilliance tactic.”
I’m glad you can read my mind. Now, try to stick to discernable facts and logic. The ad hominems become tiresome, especially when you’ve got nothing else.
“Your position that Russia is so worried about a “grass roots” revolution that they are implicating Google falsely was the issue.”
Russia hates Google and hates democratic reform. It‘s media is even more corrupt than Egypt’s, which at least has Al-Jazeera. When folks in Russia can Google the truth, it makes the media obviously biased. In light of this, their blaming Google is to be expected. They tar and feather it for internal political reasons just like Beck. That they ignore Facebook and Twitter is puzzling, but then again, I’m getting this report from GB, so how truthful can it be?
“And WOW your going to equate Nike selling clothes to Google execs trying to influence and promote a revolution.”
Name one shred of proof that Google execs in the US are trying to influence and promote a revolution. An employee of Google in Egypt did that on his own time. As for that guy in Egypt, please state how he used his power at Google to further the goal. I’d love to hear this tale.
“Which they can do, but make no mistake my inconsistent friend if you think Google is not collecting personal information on its users you are simply naive.”
Yes, Google’s knowledge that I am a skiier and soccer player instead of a yachter or baseball player is really going to lead to revolution in the US. Get real.
“In this day information is power and whoever controls information has power and given the corrupt nature of those in power I would not trust them any further than I could throw you.”
The Bush WH made it legal for the FBI and CIA to tap your phone, and they are collecting data on everything you see on the internet, but you are worried about the data Google collects when you visit their website… Yeah, that makes sense.
“And I could care less what companies do anywhere in the world !!!!! My argument is that your inconsistent when you call out GB for making things up and then the Russian government confirms things he has said.”
Confirmed what? Name the actions taken by Google the company. GB takes quotes out of context all the time. So the folks in Russia hate Google too and bash the company or spread rumors about what happened or Egypt, or make comments that are lost in translation transforming the actions of an employee into the actions of the company. Without more data than GB yelling, see, the Russians proved me right??, there is little to debat here.
“Then you in response come up with some lame their scared of grass roots revolution cockamamie answer to defend your critique of him.”
Nope. The Russians, like the Chinese, try to prevent information from getting out. Google makes their job more difficult. This isn’t cockamamie at all. By the way, the US does the same thing to Wikileaks, although that deals with classified info, so it’s a little different, but the embarassment factor is the same.
“Which ironically is what you blame GB for doing all the time.”
Nope. GB is sorrily uninformed and crazy. That is why his ratings continue to decline. You don’t learn anything listening to Beck, since his theories are not coherent and do not accord with facts. Google has been in Egypt for about one decade now, so to blame them for the revolution in any meaningful way is just silly. Heck, you cannot even articulate specifically what the involvement is–the first sign of all smoke no fire.
“I simply pointed out your inconsistency and you have had to do all this bobbing and weaving to defend it.”
Not bobbing and weaving. Just stating facts that are not really in contention. Dicatorships and undemocratic regimes do not like Google. That is a fact. But Google didn’t enable this revolution. Social media did that, so GB ought to focus on Facebook and Twitter. That has been a consistent point I’ve been making all day, but you don’t want to hear it.
“I could care less what Google stand for, but I will say this I wouldn’t trust them with my personal information anymore than a common criminal. I hope that wasn’t too nuanced for you !!!”
I would just warn you 90% of the searches done in the world are done via Google. A good chunk of these are done on so-called private label arrangements whereby you are doing a search on a site you think is independent of Google but it is not. Also, the other 10% of sites are done by Yahoo! and Microsoft, and they collect the same info. So I guess you aren’t doing any web searches, which might explain why you are ill informed. Just saying…
Sparky101
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 6:21pmabc says “And by “taint” we mean helped to overthrow a brutal dictator and give Egypt a chance at self governance, self determination and the other benefits of democracy that we claim to want for the Middle East, but really only want for Israel and maybe Turkey (if you are a neo-con).”
And intelligent people everywhere are saying to themselves “Does he mean like in Somalia?” What a naive and hateful person.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 6:40pm@ABdoesn’tC….I agree you are getting tiresome with your rhetoric and inconsistency. I don‘t watch GB and don’t get my information from his show. Again just another example of your leaps and assumptions that make your comments so inconsistent and your interpretation of things is always through your worldview lens and it is made clear to anyone that reads your comments for any length of time. You have been inconsistent in many of your posts and when I challenge them with facts the one thing you do consistently is avoid them, twist them, or deflect them to another issue. Good day sir.
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Posted on February 22, 2011 at 8:10pm@ ABC…….SAN FRANCISCO — The demonstrations in Egypt have left Google in a bind, trying to maintain a careful diplomatic distance from one of its own young employees who has become a hero to protesting crowds in Cairo — in an uprising that the company’s own technology had a small role in advancing.
Google stepped in after Egypt cut off Internet access during the unrest. It devised a way for people to leave voice messages, then have their thoughts posted through the Twitter messaging service. The service, Speak2Tweet, is credited with helping Egyptians get around the blackout.
Report Post »beebacksoon
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:15pmtheCREATORisGOD
Report Post »AMEN! I couldn’t agree more.
jzs
Posted on February 22, 2011 at 10:29pmwatchtheotherhand, just help me out with my list of the enemies of America okay? I’m losing track of them all. I want to know who to hate and fear when I hear their name. In the name of civility, let’s not get into the rhetorics of whether “destroy the country” and “shred the Constitution” and “Obama dictatorship” is the same or different than “overthrow the government.” Like you, I’m just trying to keep track of the people who hate America and whose sole purpose in life is to ruin this country and bring it under the rule of an Islamic caliphate. Would you please help me keep track of all our common enemies?
Report Post »abc
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 2:07pmWatch,
Except that Google could not possibly write that kind of software in a couple of days. Voice to text software is tough to do, and so Google relies upon Nuance for that bit of technology. But you can continue to blame Google if you want. You are pretty incorrigible.
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