Does the White House Even Know What Really Happened During OBL Raid?
- Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:46am by
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Killing Osama bin Laden was a big victory for the U.S., but how exactly the raid went down is another story – and another, and another.
Over two days, the White House has offered contradictory versions of events, including misidentifying which of bin Laden‘s sons was killed and wrongly saying bin Laden’s wife died in gunfire, as it tries to sort through what the president’s press secretary called the “fog of combat” and produce an accurate account.
Press Secretary Jay Carney said Tuesday that officials were trying to get information out as quickly as possible about the complex event witnessed by just a handful of people, and the story line was being corrected.
“We provided a great deal of information with great haste in order to inform you. … And obviously some of the information was, came in piece by piece and is being reviewed and updated and elaborated on,” Carney said.
The contradictions and misstatements reflect the fact that even in the case of a highly successful and popular mission, the confusion inherent in a fast-paced, unpredictable military raid conducted under intense pressure in a foreign country does not lend itself immediately to a tidy story line, some experts said.
“People are demanding the equivalent of a movie, they want to know scene by scene the most trivial details. You’re in the middle of a combat operation,” said Anthony Cordesman, a national security analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
“One of the things we all have to be careful about is the idea that you can suddenly rush to transparency and understanding in a matter of minutes or hours on the first day of an event like this.”
The circumstances for the Navy SEALs involved hardly lent themselves to careful note-taking. One of their helicopters stalled even before they rushed bin Laden’s compound, entering different rooms from different angles, not knowing who they’d find and then, according to the White House, engaging in a firefight. Some of what happened during those 40 minutes in Abbottabad, Pakistan, may never be known.
Nevertheless, the contradictory statements seem certain to raise suspicions about the White House’s version of events, given that no independent account from another source is likely to emerge. The only non-U.S. witnesses to survive the raid are in Pakistani custody.
Some of the White House contradictions and corrections that have emerged so far:
-White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan told reporters Monday that bin Laden’s son Khalid was killed in the raid. When the White House released a transcript of Brennan’s briefing, the name had been corrected to that of another son, Hamza.
-Brennan said bin Laden’s wife died while shielding the terrorist leader from U.S. gunfire. Carney said Tuesday that the wife hadn’t died and was merely shot in the leg, although another woman did die. But it wasn’t clear that either of them was trying to shield bin Laden.
-Brennan and other officials suggested that bin Laden was holding a gun and even firing at U.S. forces. Carney said Tuesday that bin Laden was unarmed.
-Officials have offered varying accounts of how President Barack Obama and his team in the White House Situation Room were able to monitor the raid. Without providing details on the technology involved, Brennan said that “we were able to monitor in a real-time basis the progress of the operation from its commencement to its time on target to the extraction of the remains and to then the egress off of the target.”
CIA Director Leon Panetta told PBS on Tuesday that “Once those teams went into the compound, I can tell you that there was a time period of almost 20 or 25 minutes that we really didn’t know just exactly what was going on.”
-The night of the raid, administration officials held a telephone briefing for reporters. “During the raid, we lost one helicopter due to mechanical failure,” one of the administration officials said. Later in the same call, another official contradicted that: “We didn’t say it was mechanical.”
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, clarified Tuesday that the explanation was more technical: The air temperature in the compound was hotter than expected and the helicopter was too heavy to stay aloft under that condition.






















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caprica
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:47pmPresident Bush decline obama’s invitation to Ground Zero this Thurday ! we are sincerly proud of Presiddent Bush – he is the one that America is graterful for and obama as usual takes credit for someone elses achivements and work- President Bush !
Report Post »we miss Pesident Bush !
vote obama out in 2102 …..or you will be wearing burkas and rugs on your heads if you lucky if you live to be that lucky !
Jim213
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:57pmCelebrate and have a pig roast and Koran burning.
Report Post »eyestoseeearstohear
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 6:41pm@ CAPRICA
You’re SO RIGHT!
And, I DO NOT MEAN to insult or hurt anyone’s feelings who lost loved ones on 9/11 -
We ALL suffered the loss of lives on 9/11…and will never forget.
But, as a TRIBUTE TO THEM –
I WOULDN’T SET FOOT ON GROUND ZERO WITH OBAMA!
And, I HOPE NO ONE SHOWS UP IF HE IS SCHEDULED TO GO THERE –
It is HIS attempt TO BASK IN HIS OWN UN-DUE GLORY.
The PEOPLE should WAIT AND GO THE NEXT DAY OR THERE AFTER!
Report Post »Lee_in_PA
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:38pmAnyone who has ever been a witness to any event will have their version of what happened. That is why two witnesses are needed for any particular court statement. Those who were there know what happened, those who watched it live feed… They have eyes but do not see.
As for the WH knowing what happened, I doubt the WH could organize a two car funeral, given that the hearse comes first.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:37pm2012 is coming; the libs know it and this was their Ace in the hole. Not good enough libs. Fix the economy and then the conversation might change.
Report Post »ihaveagun
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:30pmLet me get this right……..1 mile from a Pakistani military base several helicopters fly in, engage in a forty minute gunfight, load up the helicopter and take off and the Pakistani’s never appeared on site.
I BELIEVE!
Report Post »simplygilly
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:29pmWe know that the WH&staff were monitoring the raid in realtime. So there can be NO contradictions… unless they serve the administration, as did perpetuating the birth certificate diversion.
Report Post »Untameable-kate
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 1:33pmIt is all just a game for them.
Report Post »Diablo4965
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:26pm@reddenblack
Intelligent? This is the same idiot who thought there was, huh, 57 states! If you think thats intelligence well, huh, you must not be.
Report Post »Mr. Nice Guy
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:47pmI believe it was 57 with, “…I think one more to go.”
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:26pmObamas team finds and kills osama. No questions there. Repubs upset because it helps obamas poll numbers. No question there either. Only the loonies remain. Never answer to the right because they’re too stupid to see anything except negatives, save your reports for Actual Americans, ones who can see positives in the killing of terrorist #1.
Report Post »RedPillPatriot
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 1:08pmObama did nothing but give the authorization, he didn’t want to but he had too. The Military and CIA planned it and executed it all they did was go to him and say go or no-go. He had no choice, what was he going to do say no! Then he and the Dems would be over when word got out. You libs are priceless! What did you think Obama with all his military background sat there and helped plan it out. Did you forget He HATES the military! Oh the Hypocrisy!
Report Post »spirited
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:23pmThe Blaze ought to post President Obama’s entire schedule for the month of April, 2011.
>Including (and especially) the –sequence– of events and his t.v. appearances.
Report Post »caprica
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:22pmobama and his thugs lie ….they are dictators ! neve tell the truth about anything!
Report Post »Thank you President Bush ! not obama
caprica
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:20pmobama and his idiots knew where osama bin laden was since
Report Post »August and then feburary 2011……..they waited until he is about to die on his own…..so obbama send a team of brave seal ….knowing that osama is about to die…..someone must have tip them ….now obama want to claim victory ! the guy would be dead in hours anyway….and 5 hours later obama gave osama 45 minutes honorable funeral at the sea……who did the DNA? and why no one could even see dead osama…….? this is good quesiton…maybe obama and osama met in Pakistan during the time that obama stay in Pakistan1983-1985 ….not Columbia University…..so obama did not want osama to tell on him ……..
EQUALIZER
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:19pmPURE FABRICATION on all fronts!!!!!
Report Post »cookcountypatriot
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:18pmprogressives lying??? really…
Report Post »Whostolemypig
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:17pmLOL, they keep rewriting the novel based on the readers comments. If you don’t like the current story line just hold on, a version you’ll like will be published soon.
Report Post »Pattondog
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:16pmI would like to get Valerie Jarrets view points on how the decision was made. why is no one talking about that?
Report Post »Beverly Barnum
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:21pmRead Newsflavor.com for some faciniting narrative and commentary re Jarett.
Report Post »EQUALIZER
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:16pmAFORTY minute forefight? With Who, who was armed??? A million dollar paltial mansion, made out of 5o cent cinder blocks??? Wife shot in leg, Osama dead??????
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:19pmthey explained the SEALs searched the house for intel like computers for 20 minutes. a large house, looked like a pigpen in there, yeah we can believe it.
Report Post »Beverly Barnum
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:15pmBrennan has been contradicted by facts more than once. Usually it is the Defense Department which provides factual briefings, with charts and video. This control-freak White House cannot bear to give credit where credit is due, much less admit the military has saved/propped up his ratings, at least for a few days. Credibility, once lost is almost impossible to regain. I personally have reached the point of disbelief in this administration to the point that it can never be believed to impart truth or a cohesive statement. As I track down data from numerous sources, it strikes me that what the administration really needs is a czar for continuity, like those who produce films use continuity editors. I am a “dot the i‘s and cross the T’s” sort of person as I prepare and all these loose ends drive me batty.
Report Post »Mr. Nice Guy
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:55pmBeverly Barnum,
“Credibility, once lost is almost impossible to regain.”
Excellent point.
“I personally have reached the point of disbelief in this administration to the point that it can never be believed to impart truth or a cohesive statement.”
Much of America shares your view, sadly.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:15pmlook. it is like this. the US Govt can‘t even get BIN LADEN’s name right. USAMA on FBI wanted poster, OSAMA thru WH.
Report Post »EQUALIZER
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:14pmThey KNOW the truth, they just don’t know how to LIE with a staraight face! Its all about ratings. Bin Laden was irrelevant, but a potential ratings booster.
Report Post »nacilbuper
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:03pmCIA Director Leon Panetta told PBS on Tuesday that “Once those teams went into the compound, I can tell you that there was a time period of almost 20 or 25 minutes that we really didn’t know just exactly what was going on.”
Brennan said that “we were able to monitor in a real-time basis the progress of the operation from its commencement to its time on target to the extraction of the remains and to then the egress off of the target.”
These guys were sitting in the same room.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:17pmand the entire time they were sitting there thinking how were they going to spin what they saw and what they knew and when they knew it
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 1:36pmI would extend that “20 to 25 minutes” to about 20 to 25 years, if not forever.
The military acted brilliantly. Face it, they were sent in to kill Bin Laden.
Mission accomplished (again).
Then, the politicians and “advisors” take over and stumble all over themselves.
Oh!!! They used a woman as a human shield–inaccurate. Bin Laden was armed–inaccurate.
We went in and terminated our target. Case closed. That’s what we should be doing in Afghanistan. Target and remove.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:02pmJust imagine a government that actually knew what is going on in their government. What a novel idea. Most of them only know two days, Friday, and payday.
Report Post »OhSuzieQ
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:38pmhehehehe, yep
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:54amwe can certainly believe the little UBL daughter‘s account of her father’s death, hers is simple, realistic and plausible,
so much more than the confused double-babble from a now-frightened obama.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:53amWell, obviously if they did, they would’ve had their lies straight from the gate.
But when they’re fabricating the entire story, and Bin Ladin has been dead for years, what do you expect?
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:52amlike the typical obama WH, they can all sit in the same room watching the same events unfold on the same screen, and not one of them will have a clue what they saw… because every single one of the cowards is afraid to own up to what they saw — and did.
THAT is why I-I-I-ME-ME-ME obama wanted 100% AMERICAN President George W Bush with him at Ground Zero tomorrow, obama wanted to try to legitimize himself by having BUSH with him and obama having that 20912 campaign circus AT GROUND ZERO. despicable.
what did obama think or want, our American President Bush would place a laurel wreath on obama’s head at GROUND ZERO?
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:49amAre you kidding me? the current wh KNOW anything of TRUTH?
nunca jamas.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:55amI thought they watched the whole thing live in real-time? And they still can’t get it right?
Report Post »No surprise there.
spirited
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:28pm“The White House”?
or,
“President” Barack Obama?
That’s like saying, “The White House” released Obama’s birth certificate
and/or
Yes “WE” can.
>semantics
Report Post »Jim213
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:55pmThey could have been watching the royal wedding that Obama was not invited to for all we know
Report Post »hud
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 2:27pmObummer Most Fowl didn’t lie in his statement. He said OBL was killed in a military action, and he didn’t state the year. No lie there. Limbo said it was in ‘03 when he was fried in Tora Bora. Not confirmed since he was on a bike 10 minutes before the bunker buster struck.
Report Post »grandma7
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 1:43amAnyone hear Mark Levin, today. A Seal called in (he has lead many stealth missions) and said that the US would have NEVER killed OBL. His own people killed him.
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:48amWhy bother mentioning contradictions. No one really believes this incompetent administration could put on a kids puppet show much less a military operation.
Report Post »Revere1
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:54amOf course the White House doesn’t know what happened, because they weren’t there. The SEALs know what happened. Obama was probably on smoke break when it all happened, but more than ready to take credit. http://www.elephantwatcher.com/2011/05/after-bin-laden-should-republicans-be.html
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:54amThey have the Military to cover their stupidity..
Report Post »ReddenBlack
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:55amActually, most people do believe that the navy seals could kill bin laden. Fortunately we know have a decent and intelligent president in charge. A friggin moron like reagan or either Bush would invade mulitple countries for no reason. Well almost no reason, they did it to make their friends wealthy…er. Obama on the other hand, went looking for one guy, found him in 6 months and hired the right people to deal with him. Bush = two wars and nothing to show for it. Obama = half a war, which wasn’t even really his idea, and the head of Bin Laden. Obama should be on Mt Rushmore or the 1 dollar bill.
Report Post »OhSuzieQ
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:58amOMG Ted, you’re so right!
Report Post »chirodoc007
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:58amThey could simply follow the same rules that Mohamed used while writing the Koran, “Whenever I contradict myself in this book whatever I say last is the Truth”.
Report Post »randy
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:59amYou can never get a lie straight…..
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:03pmDr Diane Feinstien, PhD in Aeronautical Engineering, These Senators are just amazing, Military Tactical Deployment Experts, Economics Experts, Affirmative Action Experts, Family Planning (Planned Murderhood) Experts, DADT Experts, Dr Diane, please answer one question for me.
Report Post »How in your household at home , do you continue to spend twice what you make and keep your household solvent?
Anybody but ,“whats his name” 2012
chirodoc007
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:04pm@ REDDENBLACK
You are a Joke.
“Obama found him in 6 -months”. When? Between parties at the WH? Maybe between campaign stops. This guy couldn’t find his Birth Certificate for 3 years but HE found Osama in 6 – months. Get a grip!
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:09pmMission accomplished ,a bump in the polls. That little cocky smirk will disappear on obama‘s face when those temporary poll numbers fall again after the easily impressed fill their gas tank with money they don’t have because they can’t find a job in transit to the homeless shelter .
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:09pmMt Rushmore does not have enough Rock to put up those sattelite dishes he calls ears. Don’t you mean Commieandblack
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:18pm@ ReddenBlack
“Obama should be on Mt Rushmore or the 1 dollar bill.”
Report Post »~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I believe one of the requirements is that the president depicted on the currency must be deceased. Did you know that? With that thought in mind, I like your request.
ReddenBlack
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:19pm@13 Imam
No, because communism doesn’t work. At least what you THINK communism is, doesn’t work.
BTW, Why does everyone on the blaze seem to be so worried about china taking over as the #1 superpower? They are a communist country, which doesn’t work according to you people. YOU SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT, Right?
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:22pmI think it’s probably more like the “fog of a completely directionless administration with a communist and a total liar at the helm.” Pretty simple.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:28pmYou know what they say —
Report Post »The more you stir sh*t, the worse it smells.
SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:35pm^______^______^
Bunch of clowns in the admin only ones I want to hear from are the operators who were there OR SHOW the video footage they watched and we all know was recorded from the raid. Noway there wasnt a helmet or gun mounted cam rolling during the raid. We can go on tons of sites and watch combat footage shot this way.
IMO this contradiction is really throwing the military/ operators under the bus in anticipation of the negative response that is coming from radical mussies and nations.
Would not surprise me if we eventually hear “well there was a kill order given but if they could get him alive we wanted him alive… the operators reacted hastily resulting in UBL’s death, he was unarmed”.
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:37pmBHO was overruled!!
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/05/skulking-towards-bin-laden-obama-overridden-by-military-and-intel-officials-in-takeout-of-obl.html
Report Post »D0ntTread0nMe
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:37pmI do believe that they wanted to execute the operatiuon but let’s all look at this objectively… the military pulled it off… BHO pushed the button.
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Jim213
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:39pmDid you see that picture of Obama with all the admin. surrounding him. He looks like a little kid invited into watch a boxing match.
Report Post »Mr. Nice Guy
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 12:41pm13th Imam,
“Don’t you mean Commieandblack”
Well since you’ve started the personal attacks, may I join you?
I wish that ugly creep would stop using my face!
(If the avatars showing it’ll make sense.) OK, Have a nice day!
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 1:03pmRushing to give out details to inform the public and missing a few details I can buy. But is it just me or did anyone else see that photo of all the big-wigs sitting in the situation room watching the raid take place via helmet cam worn by the SEALS? So where is the confusion in what actually went down? The more and more I hear about this the more fishy it sounds
Report Post »ReddenBlack
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 1:04pm@MR Nice Guy
LOL, just for the record, my Avatar came from one of my favorite comic/movies “The Watchmen.“ For those still going with ”commienblack,” watch that movie or read the comic. You just might be enlightened
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 1:08pmThis administration is pushing so many agendas and contradictory means that they honestly seem not to have a clue anymore as to what any of them are doing togeather. It could be true, it could be just an act as well.
Report Post »Gas137
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 1:13pmThere are no contradictions in the fog of the Obama administration. No one can see clearly in any direction.
Report Post »Untameable-kate
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 1:16pmChirodoc, Good morning, just wanted to say ‘I love my chiropractor’, I was in a car accident a year ago and my doc took me from barely able to walk properly to being able to hike.
Redd, You seem a little dilusional, nothing new for the BO worshippers. Please either state fact and drop the BS or go to a leftie site to spew your lies, we are not so easily fooled as you. The mere idea that you feel we should deface a national monument by blasting the likeness of the most divisive and least decisive POTUS in history onto it says all we need to know about you. If you need a shrine to worship your dog god BO please find your own spot so I don’t have to see it.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 1:26pmJust heard .. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO RELEASE OBL PHOTO!
Report Post »chirodoc007
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 1:28pm@ REDDENBLACK
After reading through other replies you have proved yourself to be unworthy of reply.
Report Post »Happy Killmore
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 1:38pm@Reddenblack
Fan of “Watchmen”, eh? You do realize the “human bean juice” on your avatar is on the wrong side.
Report Post »edcoil
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 2:15pm“Does the White House Even Know What Really Happened During OBL Raid?”
No.
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 2:16pmObimbo doesn’t know his head from the hole in his a**.
Report Post »hud
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 2:20pmYeah, your right, this admin make the gang that couldn’t shoot straight look like real professionals. The pros @ the CIA would have chosen Panetta over OBL. We”ll have no secrets left by the time this fool is finish jacking his jaws.
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 3:01pm“One of the things we all have to be careful about is the idea that you can suddenly rush to transparency and understanding in a matter of minutes or hours on the first day of an event like this.”
________________________________________________________________________
Then why give any information other than:
The US performed a military operation.
The US killed a high ranking Al Qaeda member.
The rushing you hear is the administration zooming toward using this to elevate it’s poll numbers.
Report Post »truthwillout
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 3:36pmOsama bin Laden probably is dead but, out of an abundance of caution, I am wary of anyone and everyone whose name begins with “O” and ends with “ama.”
http://www.gotchamediablog.com/2011/05/obama-vs-osama-supercut.html
Report Post »Mandiru
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:35pmYou know, I really wouldn’t mind seeing Obama a three dollar note eventually…
Report Post »Lucy Larue
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:51pmTEDDDRUNK,
Incompetent does not begin to describe!
Yes…,a great victory for the United States…, yet since it hit the news late Sunday, the Progressives have turned it into a bunch of P.C. bulls@#t!
Our Enemy only understands “The biggest stick”.
Release the pictures! Show them the coward they called “The Lion of Allah”.
It may deter some other “LIONS” like the coward Awlaki.
The deeds committed in the name of ALLAH are unspeakable. And they are posted for the world to see.
It does not make us less to engage in a little “Eye for an Eye”.
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 5:22pmA great job on the mission (untouched by Obama) by the professionals.
As far as handling the public release of mission details? Ever seen what monkeys do to a football?
Barry and Co. have really urinated in their own punchbowl with this fiasco. Even the press is getting steamed.
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 5:31pm@ reddenblack
this is for you and your “intelligent” idiot…i mean president theory….read the whole article…then open your mouth…you dolt…
http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/
Report Post »Jim in Houston
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 5:58pmThey are a puppet show being run by the puppet master, Spooky Dude.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 8:07pmtotally clueless….they were watching SNL…
Report Post »BORNINTOAWORLDATWAR
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 1:49amMoron alert – ReddenBlack is loose and spewing from both ends.
Report Post »orkydorky
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 6:31pmThis is one read I might be able to believe!
Report Post »http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/05/03/did-the-u-s-military-act-on-its-own-authority-to-kill-bin-laden/