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Done Deal: Russian Prez Signs START Treaty

MOSCOW (AP) — Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has signed the ratification of a nuclear arms cut pact with the United States.

The treaty, known as New START, is a centerpiece of President Barack Obama’s efforts to “reset” ties with Moscow.

The treaty limits each country to 1,550 strategic warheads, down from the current ceiling of 2,200, and also re-establishes a system for monitoring that ended in December 2009 with the expiration of a previous arms deal.

In a statement to his security council on Friday, Medvedev said the pact will take effect when the ratification documents are exchanged by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and American Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

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  • Silence_DoGood
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:05am

    The problem with the New START Treaty is that it assumes that both sides will keep their end of the deal.

    Can anyone tell me anything about Russia’s history, even recent history since the collapse of the USSR regime, that suggests that Russia will really keep their end of the bargain?

    They only need to dismantle their old and antiquated warheads to look like they’ve kept their end of the bargain. But what about those warheads in Russia we do not know about?

    After all, these things as a matter of national security on both sides have always been kept TOP SECRET. For that reason, the data that has been divulged is by nature suspect as to how accurate it actually is, on both sides.

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  • middleclassprophet
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 9:47am

    It has been determined by our Nuclear Defense Department that only 303 American nukes are needed to destroy our planet as we know it. Everything else is simply overkill and puts us at risk for a terrorist group to acquire one of them. Many posters on this board seem ignorant of that fact.

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    • Anawynn13
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 10:34am

      Wow! Thanks so much for your enlightenment, oh Chosen One. I love pious condescending dialogue.

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    • VRW Conspirator
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 10:36am

      you seem ignorant of the fact that both the United States and Russia and China I would venture of anti missle systems that while not perfect can remove 25-50% of incoming missles. The US patriot missle system actually had a near 75% rate of destroying incoming SCUD missles during the first Gulf War.
      also, all three nations had short, medium, and long range nuclear missles as well as land based and water/sub based systems. speculation still says that the Russians have a space based platform still to this day. there are also “battle-field” nuclear weapons that are to be used in close combat ground wars that have yields on the order of the original atomic bomb and only cover a blast area of 10 miles.

      you don’t just state that we only need 303 to destroy the planet and think that number is the be all end all of conditions. the military and the US most plan for all types of attacks and counter-attacks in all theatres so that we are best protected and prepared. those 303 would be of our highest yield ICBM types that are made for Global War not localized war or regional war.

      given your blanket ignorant of the facts statement….i still think that 1550 is too many. maybe 1000 would be better and still able to cover the short, medium, long range options and the ground and sub based options….the problem with this treaty was that while the US is sitting on our aging missle fleet, the Russians are now free to destroy thousands of old 1960′s era missles while they upgrade with higher yield, newer technology devices. so they will look good to the world by saying, “we destroyed 1500 missles but the US only destroyed 650.” but not tell the world that they built nearly 1000 brand new missles that are each more powerful than 10 of the old missles they destroyed and more accurate and more able to evade the anti-missle systems we stopped building in the 1990′s

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  • koibaby
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 9:34am

    Obama “Im the KING OF THE WORLD”
    I am ashamed of the American people. How can the masses be such morons to elect color over substance?

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    • wash1776
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:13pm

      I understand your comment, I think Obama had a lot of people fooled. Hope he doesn’t manage to do that again with his phony changes that are just designed to get him another term so he can finish destroying this country. He is such a lying, crooked, evil man. And I use the term man loosely!

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  • wash1776
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 9:26am

    Russia really never had to sign this treaty. What a joke of a name for this sham of a bill. The Russians give up literally nothing. It is the U.S. that gives up a lot thanks to the TRAITOR ruining the white house.

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  • Deutscher
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 9:09am

    Reagan was for an end to nuclear weapons. This is just a step. A step supported by all previous SOS and pretty much every thinking individual who is in a position to know the issue. As previously mentioned, Russia is a broke kleptocracy that has local problems keeping them busy. They , like Europe and the US have Islamist problems which don’t lend themselves to nuclear weapons.

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  • Cabo King
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 9:03am

    wow we cut back to only 1550 stragetic nuclear warheads?? now we can only destroy the earth 28 times over, whats with that….

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  • dizzyinthedark
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 8:59am

    It only takes one.

    What else has liar-in-chief given away?

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    • EP46
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:20pm

      Well….how about our uranium mines ???? Or our defense missal sights ?? or all your grandchildren’s earnings …we could spend a year on barry has given away…most of all our future.

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  • christos
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 8:55am

    Ezekiel 38:3-5/lemon cake is good…

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  • Republic
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 8:55am

    This brings to mind the term, “selling us down the river”. I hope we have paddles!

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  • santramir
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 8:18am

    remember bob dylan’s “I don’t like mondays”?? are 3,000 nuclear war heads not enough to melt the whole planet down almost 10 times??

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 10:17am

      Not quite ‘melt the whole planet down’ but it would go a long ways to the elimination of most humanity in Russia and America territory. One thing other people are forgetting is that China is just after us and russia in the number of nuclear weaponry possessed.

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  • GeeWhiz
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 8:10am

    So he signs a treaty that means nothing. They decomission ancient elderly unusable nukes on their side, we get rid of middle aged ones. Everyone blathers like they did something when they really didn’t. Obama trying to score points looking presidential (because God knows he doesn’t look it much in any other way) and the Russians get to strut, pretending that they’re still important. Meanwhile Obama looks in the mirror congratulating himself on looking good while the Russian president makes a private phone deal with Iran to trade more technology for cash.

    Meanwhile, Iran is ramping up and our deterrant is much less fearsome to them, so they operate and trade information and parts with other nasty colleagues. They get stronger, we purposefully weaken ourselves. The far left sings Kumbayah and conservatives shake their head at the naivete and stupidity.

    Is this the point where I’m supposed to clap? *snort*

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:40am

    Considering the Russians no longer had 2,200 warheads, what did we get out of this? Oh wait, Barrry got a Nobel Peace Prize.

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  • staythecourse
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:32am

    The “fifth column” has done their job. It is only a matter of time.

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  • americansfightingforcommonsense
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:25am

    I can’t wait for November 2012!!!!! Obama is leading this once great nation to ruin. Just as Rome fell, Obama will have us fall too!!!!!! Is it not apparent that Obama does not like this country and what it has stood for all these years? Strength, Pride, Innovation, Freedom, Justice,….. That’s why we need our Constitution more today than before!!!

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    • santramir
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 8:22am

      come on do you really believe is it obama on his own?? add millions of voters + trillions of your money from bankers + millions of silent quiet opposers.

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  • blanco
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:19am

    And I signed a paper that says I will never eat chocolate again. Empty, empty, promises!!!!

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  • warloch
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:18am

    Lets see how this works. The US destroys a bunch perfectly good working missles while Russia destroys unusable junk missles and then sells off the parts and technology to terrorist countries that want to destroy the US. Russia gets lots of money for their junk and Obama turnss the US into sitting duck. BTW any of you people whio live in Georgia make sure you do not vote for Johnny Isakson again, because he is a RINO and voted for this treaty along with the socialist libs that want China to own the US.

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    • staythecourse
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:34am

      you forgot the part where we give to Russia our largest Uranium mine in our country and they in turn sell that to Iran to be used against us.

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    • PeachyinGA
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:37am

      I’ve been uncomfortable voting for Isakson for quite a while. I think you’re right on the label.

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  • roundup55
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:17am

    on another subject…i just read the terms of use. the part about comments you can and can’t make.
    so here’s my approved comment…..i think I not be in favor of…something that might be mentioned in this article. but i might be wrong so i withraw any part of this statement that might offend some unknown
    person who might not agree with what i might or might not have said. i sure hope i didn’t upset anybody
    who might have read this….love and kisses everyone!

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    • GeauxAlready
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:29am

      I said Nappy Hair and now I get censored when I post. So much for speaking without fear……….

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    • PeachyinGA
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:35am

      You made me look! Your remarks are very pc and are well within the rules of paragraph 8. On top of that, I agree with the part of your opinion before you considered withdrawing it :)

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  • awall1231
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:12am

    oops 650. my bad

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    • blanco
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:21am

      450, 650, 1,000 or 1—-same meaningless numbers!!!!

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  • awall1231
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:11am

    an arms reduction of 450? I hope they plan on getting rid of the arms of the progressives since there the ones agreeing to this. Or are they talking about weapons?

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  • Hobbs57
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:06am

    Or …. Maybe the reason reason Russia is building the 5,000 NEW fall out shelters is because they understand that their method by which they are going to reduce their nuclear inventory is by launching them at the United States ?? That would lower their inventory and probably ours … Sheesh, these people are morons. Especially Bush.. You know, he kept his mouth shut all this time, but now comes out publicly to support this treaty .. WHy ?? I don’t trust any of these people anymore.

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  • Jarski
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:02am

    The only reduction will be on our side.

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    • J.Hawk
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:56am

      I bet Medvedev can’t get a full night of sleep now. He probably wakes up every hour laughing about how easy it was to take advantage of a certain sucker who was mistakenly placed in the most important office in the world.

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  • Punky
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 6:51am

    Uh, aren’t we still at war? Is now really the right time for arms reduction?

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    • tompaineknowsthescore
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 8:40am

      pretty sure the US cant nuke al-qaeda

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    • bccrane
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 9:16am

      @TomPan…
      “pretty sure the US cant nuke al-qaeda”
      That’s a good idea. Say we gather enough of a coalition together to surround the area of the mountains of Afghanistan and Pakistan, pepper the area with pamphlets stating anyone who wishes not to die come down orderly and give up their weapons, as for the rest, you take the nuclear bombs slated for destruction and instead carpet bomb the mountains and then just leave, mission accomplished. Now the rage will well up in the rest of the terrorist cells around the world and they will move to suicide bomb any target they can find (most will have the same targets in mind and will do overkill of one area, in other words wasting their efforts). This is where the ones with cell phone triggers you employ a spam message every few seconds to blow the bombs prematurally. Great idea right?

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    • Kevin
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 10:23am

      @BCCRANE Carpet bomb with nukes? hahaaa

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    • Smitty1969
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 4:32pm

      pretty sure the US cant nuke al-qaeda ?? There are the product of a culture just like in WWII. Their people are responsible for supporting them. Their mothers and fathers are proud of them just like ours are of us “wake up”

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  • cheezwhiz
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 6:51am

    So is it time for another Nobel Peace Prize ?
    This is a BFD as Biteme would say !!

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  • PeachyinGA
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 6:49am

    It’s odd … I don’t feel any safer.

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    • Hobbs57
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:03am

      Yeah , especially when Russia has just decided to build 5,000 new fall-out shelters ,, Here’s a news report confirming it. Though, of course Russia claims this only so they can meet the population demands, but this doesn’t explain why they are rushing to have them completed by 2012 …hmmmm
      http://windowstorussia.com/moscow-building-5000-bomb-shelters-by-2012.html

      Wonder what they know that we don’t ?? Maybe they are just obsessed with the Myan prophecies ?? lol

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 10:21am

      @Hobbs57

      Two probable reasons they are expanding the number of shelters are the sheer accuracy our current nukes are able to achieve with GPS, and the sheer number of hardened targets for C3I we would need to strike at for a total decimation of their leadership in the event of war, the more dispersed the targets are by distance and numbers, the more we need to hit.

      Also, do not forget the dragon of China sits along the Russian border as well.

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:11pm

      They are buddying up to Chavez, they’ll be coming up thru Mexico….and crossing our borders if they don’t blow us away first.

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  • Dustyluv
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 6:46am

    Woo Hoo! No more threat of being blown up! hahahahaha
    Trust the Russins…go ahead. Obama is a MORON.

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    • tompaineknowsthescore
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 6:50am

      did reagan sign a big arms treaty with the russians at rekjavik?

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:02am

      Yes he did…and he was WRONG then….He also gave out Amnesty. Wrong there too.
      So what’d your point bozo?

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:26am

      New York Republican Peter King has introduced a bill that would protect the army of citizen spies Homeland Security hopes to recruit under Janet Napolitano’s “See Something, Say Something” snoop campaign from lawsuits brought by innocent people wrongly accused of being terrorists or extremists.

      “A top US lawmaker unveiled legislation on Wednesday to protect individuals who tip off authorities to potential extremist threats from lawsuits, in the event that they turn out to finger innocents,” reports AFP.

      House Homeland Security Chairman King, who is pushing the “See Something, Say Something Act,” wants to shield “good citizens who report suspicious activity” from facing the consequences of misidentifying innocent behavior as extremism or terror.

      Of course, this will only encourage untrained people to report any behavior whatsoever, no matter how benign, as potential terrorism, creating an army of enthusiastic but hapless citizen spies.

      “King said his bill would extend protections from individuals “who report suspicious activity anywhere,” adds the report, making reference to the DHS’ “See Something, Say Something” campaign, which characterizes paying for things with cash as a suspicious activity.

      The program was launched with the aid of Orwellian telescreens at Wal-Mart checkouts that play a message from Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano encouraging Americans to report anything unusual to Wal-Mart managers. The program was subsequently expanded to include 9,000 federal buildings, as well as sports stadiums, businesses and communities in general.
      http://www.infowars.com/shocker-citizen-spy-networks-to-be-given-immunity/

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    • Ironmaan
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:46am

      Agreed! At every turn the Obama administration seems to want to weaken the U.S. If he or anyone thinks that the Russians are trust worthy, I got a bridge to sell ya. They never learn. They are still trying to negotiate with North Korea, and NK has never lived up to any treaty they signed with us. Its an embarassment and its dangerous to sign treaties such as this with aggressive, dishonest governments.
      http://guerillatics.com

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    • mikem1969
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 8:27am

      Of course obastalinmao wants to lie in bed with Russia, that is what he and the rest of the liberals and progressives want to turn the US into.

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    • tompaineknowsthescore
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 8:39am

      The russians will never attack the USA due to MAD and the fact the world economy is so intertwined it would destroy them aswell. The russian govts a kleptocracy they only care about money and a large scale wars not good for business

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    • KICKILLEGALSOUT
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 9:13am

      Thank you Obama you are an idiot! We sign a treaty with Russia to get rid of our weapons and meanwhile China is rapidly developing their weapons and military!

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    • middleclassprophet
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 9:45am

      The Republicans are still stuck on “Star Wars” the only thing they would support quicker than that is another War. Both are on the NeoCons wish list.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 10:15am

      @Tower7

      One step ahead of you here in the Phoenix area where the Big Sis is everywhere in many of the larger wal-mart stores. We are working on killing this program of hers and the HSA if we can by the dissolving of the department.

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    • kreese
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 10:27am

      DUSTYLOVE:
      You’re right on both points, but you forgot to mention Tip O’Neill and his Democrat cronies in Congress promised to fix the border, and immigration—probably something about needing voters in the future!

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    • jzs
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:04am

      I’m not sure you guys understand the issue with nuclear weapons. The US by itself has enough nuclear weapons to kill every man, woman and child in the world several times over. So do the Russians. Reducing stockpiles of nuclear weapons doesn’t reduce deterrence.

      The Cold War was over a long time ago, maybe you should accept that.

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 11:27am

      JZS you are a liberal idiot…Strength through power not strength because we are big enough already.

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    • jzs
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 12:06pm

      Dusty, maybe. But the treaty also has the support of George Bush and the entire military command. From the conservative WSJ:

      The New START Treaty has the unanimous support of America’s military leadership—to include the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, all of the service chiefs, and the commander of the U.S. Strategic Command, the organization responsible for our strategic nuclear deterrent. (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703339304575240164048611360.html). It’s also supported by several past Secretaries of State, military leaders and so on.

      You may know more than those people, I’ll concede. But I really don’t believe that. I think you may have an exaggerated sense of your own knowledge on the subject.

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    • ForeignWatcher
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:31pm

      Republicans support the treaty. democrats do, not just some looneys but all of the political mainstream and most extremists. Yet Obama is a traitor for supporting it.

      How does going from 2,2k warheads to 1,5k hinder our ability to destroy mankind? Why should anyone fear us less?

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    • Smitty1969
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 4:22pm

      Dusty, most people here have never lived or stepped outside this country except for a sheltered vacation. Most are clueless of the absolute corruption, mob style from the top to the beat cop. There leaders will smile and shake your hand while their 9 year old son twists a knife in your liver. These liberals think they will honor a piece of paper saying good will and future peace. Libs are ether ignorant or the wealthy sheltered (permanent vacationers). Corruption and two faced lies will consume their dream system and us with it.

      Semper Fi

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    • jzs
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 4:55pm

      Smitty, I don’t think George Bush, the military brass, James Baker (Secretary of State under Bush) and others who support the treaty are liberal. Ronald Reagan signed similiar treaties and his visions was the elimination of nuclear weapons (google it, you’ll find plenty of quotes). I don’t think he was liberal.

      This is a national issue, not a right vs. left issue.

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    • Czar Kasim
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 6:36pm

      Look on the bright side, you can now get a great deal on a used missile. would not be suprised if you could bid for one on ebay. shhh don’t tell Iran.

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    • waggie
      Posted on January 29, 2011 at 1:08pm

      I feel so much better now. 1550 warheads is way safer than 2200. ummmm….

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