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‘Don’t Dismantle the EPA’: Occupy Protesters Arrested Outside Paul Iowa Headquarters

Dont Dismantle the EPA: Occupy Protesters Arrested Outside Paul Iowa Headquarters

A protester is arrested outside Ron Paul campaign headquarters in Iowa Thursday. (Image source: CNN)

DES MOINES, Iowa (The Blaze/AP) — Police arrested more than a dozen Occupy protesters Thursday in Iowa who are targeting Democrats and Republicans just days before the state’s closely watched lead-off presidential caucuses.

Five protesters were arrested outside the Iowa campaign headquarters of presidential contender Ron Paul in Ankeny before the group moved on to the Iowa Democratic Party headquarters in Des Moines, where 12 more were taken into custody. All were ticketed for trespassing and released.

The protests are part of an Occupy the Caucuses effort launched this week in Des Moines that has attracted activists from around the country. Many of them have promised to interrupt campaign activities, and organizers promised more confrontations on Friday with campaign offices of Republican presidential hopefuls.

Occupy the Caucuses spokeswoman Danielle Ryun, who was among those arrested at the state Democratic Party headquarters, said the goal is not to be arrested. But since campaign officials won’t listen to them, protesters are willing to be arrested to get their message across, she said.

“It would be great if we could show up, issue our concerns and have the candidates acknowledge us and change their platform,” she said.

Those arrested in Des Moines included a 14-year-old girl who was released to her father at the scene. On Thursday, seven protesters were arrested outside Republican Mitt Romney’s Des Moines headquarters.

Iowa Democratic Party Executive Director Norm Sterzenbach said the protesters were given the opportunity to express their opinions and party officials listened to their concerns, but he said occupying the party offices was unacceptable.

“Not only does it interfere with the important work that our volunteers and staff do to engage Iowans in the political process, by physically blocking our staff from entering or exiting the building sets a very dangerous precedent,” Sterzenbach said in a statement.

Dont Dismantle the EPA: Occupy Protesters Arrested Outside Paul Iowa Headquarters

A Des Moines police officer triest to speak to a group of protesters outside Ron Paul's campaign headquarters Thursday. (AP)

Protesters at Paul’s campaign headquarters were protesting his proposal to dismantle the Environmental Protection Agency if elected.

Ryun said the Paul campaign headquarters were locked when protesters arrived. By locking their doors, campaigns “are signaling to us that they have become disengaged,” Ryun said.

“We are fighting for future generations,” cross-legged protesters chanted outside. “In order to live, we need clean air….Don’t dismantle the EPA.”

A telephone message left for a Paul campaign spokesman was not returned.

At the Iowa Democratic Party’s offices, protesters targeted President Barack Obama, demanding that he put a stop to home foreclosures, turn down campaign donations from Wall Street, and end indefinite detentions of detainees at Guantanamo Bay.

“They’re all going to get equal play on this,” Ryun said. “We are very disillusioned with every candidate.”

Eight protesters were arrested at the party’s offices on Dec. 19.

Police in Des Moines and Ankeny said the protesters were given the option of leaving and told if they refused they would be arrested. Police said the arrests were peaceful and no force was used.

The Occupy movement began in New York and has spread across the country. Activists generally protest the growing gap between rich and poor and corporate influence over government.

Comments (122)

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  • michael79
    Posted on December 30, 2011 at 12:10am

    When you’re irrelevant, nobody is going to listen to you anyway. Stay out of jail and come up with a real strategy.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 4:14am

      Why should any of the candidates even pretend to listen to these people? They have no intention of voting Republican, and are just desperate to interrupt the democratic process and block the free speech of others.

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    • JLGunner
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 10:04am

      Ron Paul is not a Republican to begin with and these idiots have no idea what a stranglehold this agency has on our economy. Go join that group that sits in the woods and cries for the trees.

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    • Patrick Henry II
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 11:58am

      Ron Paul is a great Republican. For smal government, and freedom, and the Constitution. Unfortunately there are a few but very powerful powerbrokers in the GOP that feel different. I imagine at the end of an invesigation of the power brokers it woud lead to Soros and Klan.
      Ron Paul Is a REPUBLICAN. I love saying that. haha.

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  • vorpal
    Posted on December 30, 2011 at 12:09am

    the EPA is killing jobs AND the environment…those new lightbulbs are worse than the old ones but because GE makes that crap we all have to buy it…it’s a giant ruse…
    the occupy koolaid drinkers could not be more used… simple dweebs

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 12:44am

      Dont dismantle the EPA ??? Ok , im sorry but now your just pulling causes out of your ass !!! My God, really ? Dont dismantle thr EPA ? whats next? Dont improve the DMV ? handS off the POSTAL SERVICE ? i mean come on people, even you morons can come up with something better than the EPA… complete and utter dumbasses !!

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 12:52am

      We know they are Tools ……without two brain cells to rub together between all of them.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 4:22am

      Hellooo mercury poisoning and petrol guzzling, slow, lightbulb carrying Chinese cargo ships– polluting all the way across the Pacific to bring us insufficient lighting.
      And to lower their carbon footprint I‘m sure they’re willing to use the same boats to dump the used bulbs on the way back….

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    • dnewton
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 9:59am

      Nixon also started affirmative action. It might have been a good idea in its time but like Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, there was no clear plan to end it. For people old enough to remember Nixon, there should be a slight suspicion that Nixon’s progressive tendencies could mirror those of Romney or even Newt. Newt reminds me of a college professor who delights in saying things that might shock a student for the purpose of making the student think, not to enlighten them.

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    • barnsy
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 2:09pm

      Here is another outrage.Why does the U.S. government own so much land out west? I live in Arizona where the government owns 48% of the land (the indians own another 30%). Only 30% of the states land can be developed.In other states its worse,Nevada 84% gov. owned,Alaska 69%,Utah 57%. The government could raise a lot of cash selling off some of this land,not to mention the jobs created by developing these lands.

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on December 30, 2011 at 12:00am

    the EPA (and it’s communist anti-American oil & anti-American coal policy atrocities) should be the 2nd thing dismantled on Inauguration Day 2013, as soon as America is retaken from obama. the very 1st national atrocity to be completely killed off on Inauguration Day 2013 should be obamacare.

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    • TennesseeConservative
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 5:17am

      Must be children of EPA parents. What will the government drones do for a living. What me WORK?

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 7:28am

      Put in place by Republican President Richard milhouse Nixon….do we need anymore proof of FACT that PROGRESSIVE SOCIALIST ARE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISLE. OR THAT OUR CHOICE IS AN ILLUSION.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 9:43am

      @SmithClarence

      It is nice to see people that get it. Not very many that understand the truth.
      They are still stuck in the Left/Right Paradigm.
      Fortunately, a lot of people are slowly waking up.
      The fact that 93 of 100 senators voted yea on the initial NDAA 1867-S is proof positive that both sides of the aisle are corrupt.
      44 of 47 REPUBLICAN Senators voted in favor a Unconstitutional bill to detain Americans citizens indefinately for being “belligerent”. They can be arrested on mere suspicion, without a warrant. They recieve NO legal representation and can be tortured and/or executed.
      I know this sounds “conspiratorial” but one day you will see what I said was true.
      If you really search, you can find out sooner.
      The United Nations owns the ‘United States’ due to the bankruptcy of 1933.
      They acquired the quitclaim deed in 1944, at the Bretton Woods agreement.
      The United Nations is run by the Global Elite.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 9:48am

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlCs7u1ihws

      http://www.barefootsworld.net/usfraud.html

      This explains a lot of your questions, and contains many peices of the geo-political puzzle.

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  • Patriot Z
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:47pm

    these useful idiots dont know the first thing about the enviroment, economics or anything. they are idiot kids being led into a panic by progressive marxists into believing that if the govt is not there to hold their hand and give them everything then they cant do anything by themselves. these idiots cannot debate thats why they occupy and dissrupt. its not politicians stoping them it them not having an argument or logical train of thought. OWS is a marxist brain fart combined with a panic attack

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:33pm

    My solution for the EPA is easy — whatever part is absolutly neeed keep and lock down to limit the authority it has; then take a flame thrower to the rest.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:59pm

      Just for starters,,,

      1. Reduce the budget to 5 million per annum.
      2. Privatize the environmental impact studies (EIS), based on tenders. Cap the required study time to a maximum of 6 months. The base fee schedules strictly based on tenders. The request submitter has the pick of study provider.
      3. Beside EIS, EPA would be able to submit only recommendations.
      4. Create 3 ombudsman posts (with a term limit 4 years, one term, no more), from business, academic and general public spheres.
      4. Whatever recommendation comes out of EPA has to go through ombudsmen and an unanimous agreement only can pass it along for further processing by legislation,

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 12:08am

      No part is needed. Property rights would do the trick.

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    • HumbleMan
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 12:09am

      There’s no part of it that is needed. Every state has an equivalent department responsible for not destroying the goose that lays the golden eggs (i.e. the “environment”). This means controlling factories that pollute rivers and businesses that dispose of toxic materials in imprudent fashion. We need that … but we already have that.

      The present EPA’s purpose is to throttle industry. You can find the basis of this in the communist manifesto, if you bother to read it. In the present context, it’s all about bringing the USA down.

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    • michael79
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 12:13am

      I like the flamethrower idea, but with less prejudice.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 12:20am

      HumbleMan, right, that’s another way, delegate all the environmental issues to the states. If a state decides to throttle its industry, the industry moves to another state. Problem solved.

      Some may point out that there is a lot of fed held land. The response may be a question: “Why”?

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 12:53am

      @Anarcho Capitalist,

      “No part is needed. Property rights would do the trick.”

      Exactly.

      Here’s Ron Paul on Libertarian Environmentalism.

      See here.

      Ron Paul on the Economy, International Trade, AIDS and the Environment (1988)
      (at 3:52)
      http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYp5BD-omG4#t=3m52s

      Here’s Ron Paul on abolishing the EPA.

      See here.

      Ron Paul on the Economy, International Trade, AIDS and the Environment (1988)
      (at 5:26)
      http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYp5BD-omG4#t=5m26s

      And here’s a more in depth analysis of Libertarian Environmentalism (another way of saying “respect for the property of others”).

      See here.

      Defending the Undefendable (Chapter 26: The Stripminer) by Walter Block
      http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15Xskw_bGf8

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 7:38am

      TWOBYFOUR,
      Your half right I agree with your idea however in regulations to be placed on the American people has to go through congress as the final step LIKE THE CONSTITUTION INTENDED.
      All these PROGRESSIVE are saying the great experiment has failed thet people can’t self govern. Well most of the problem is people haven’t been allowed to self govern THE ENEMIES OF OUR NATION AND THE AMERICAN DREAM have sat up agencies to by pass the people by bypassing Congress. They’ve pass legislation in the or during holidays where lots of congressman were out of D.C. They put amendments in the Constitution that were never radified. We can beat them we hold the key the key is unity. If we put aside our petty differences and unite on our common grouds we could bring D.C down to it’s knees.

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    • dnewton
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 9:04am

      The average time for an EIS for highway work was 77 months a few years ago. There was suppose to be a streamlining process going on, but I did not hear of any breakthrough. If you read one, you have read them all. As long as you stay withing the same state or similar region, the look like they have been copied one from the other. Without more lane miles of roads, the congestion problems in urban areas will soon visit the rural areas. Traffic from Memphis to Bristol, Tennessee via I-40 and I-81 is expected to drop to an average of 52 miles per hour by 2030 according to plans submitted to the Federal Highway Administration by our last Democrat governor. To keep it that high, I suspect that they plan to alter the management of speed by variable speed limits. This is another European wonder fix to be imported to keep from building more lane miles of road. Road speed limits will be changed continuously by computer feedback based on the traffic volume and will slow down traffic before the Interstate becomes a parking lot. All of this is to save a few rare bats, some wildflowers, avoid acid runoff anxiety and to save the planet. Meanwhile the population is doubling every 66 years and the number of lane miles is doubling every 360 years. If they manage the Earth as well as they manage transportation, we are in big trouble.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 11:45am

      @dnewton,

      “There was suppose to be a streamlining process going on, but I did not hear of any breakthrough.”

      As the guy in the first video below says, traffic is due to the state owning the roads; This removes the incentive to make roads efficient. The following links should be helpful to you.

      See here.

      Stossel – ‘The Tragedy Of The Commons’ 12/5/10 1 of 4
      (at 9:14, on traffic)
      http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IdzaEiYx5o#t=9m14s

      And here.

      How to Reach the Left | Roderick T. Long
      (at 16:00, on how public roads benefit big businesses at the expense of others)
      http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4hjO1ak4_M#t=16m

      And here.

      Private Roads Work
      http ://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/frazier3.html

      Further, we don’t even need traffic lights (just enforcement of crime laws).

      See here.

      Monderman (1of10) – Drachten Eye Contact
      http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo3KWHqmDhA

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  • shackero
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:14pm

    FILTHY-DIRTY-COMMUNISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    The EPA is a regulatory nightmare for this country——It and FEMA (both from the 1970′s era) siphon our liberties in the name of safety and security……………They are making our congress irrelevent…………..

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  • vtech61
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:08pm

    Where is Rational Man on this?
    I’m voting my principals this time and so far, it’s for Paul.

    The rest of you people do what you will.
    I will NOT let the media choose the next ‘******** in chief’.

    With that said: The EPA may not need to go, but, it surly needs to be regulated by Congress.
    (Not the other way around)…

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    • scheduler
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:17pm

      Good for those cops.

      http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 12:35am

      I lived next to lake Erie in the 60–70′s …..the great lakes were so polluted only a few sickly fish lived in them. The water stunk like a backed-up toilet. Rivers were catching on fire. The EPA saved those lakes. I really don’t want to go back to making a sewer of our water supply…….Today the EPA has gone to far but the Ron Paul *Shut Them Down Stupidity* is just that….rein them in, yes! Paul is not all that bright.

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    • KyanWan
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 4:04am

      @Republicorp – the one excellent comment here.

      I for one don’t want the EPA to have free reign – however I do want them to be reined in.

      Those here who wish to completely abolish them – need to pick up a history book and read a reminder of just how bad it was. My local major river – the fish are still contaminated with PCBs thanks to GE.

      We’ve come a long way, I want our country to stay clean. If the spending is a problem – CUT ALL FOREIGN AID – including our unwavering support to Israel who is ready to start World-War-3 – AND LEAVE US HOLDING THE BILL!

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    • dnewton
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 9:22am

      When the EPA proposes something that cost the public substantial sums of money, we need to have someone to reward or blame like a member of Congress, not a bureaucrat with a Leftist agenda and a CO2 anxiety disorder. Increasing the cost of business reduces competition when it knocks off even a small fraction of business that can not comply. Sometimes creating a “level playing field creates less price competition. Some businesses can survive government meddling while others can not. An active bureaucracy creates more and more lobbying.

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  • MeteoricLimbo
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:54pm

    Well, the green movement has gotten in the way of the green movement where solar energy is concerned……They seem to have wrapped their own tongues around their own heads.

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  • bulletsinthegun
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:51pm

    I am a 53%er, I work and pay taxes. served in the army 1971to 1973. I would like to see the EPA go away. As for the OWS, get a job. I am insulted you even think you can speak for me

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    • LibertarianForLife
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:23pm

      well said sir, i commend you.

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    • dnewton
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 9:27am

      I think if the Federal EPA was killed off or diminished, the state versions would still exist but would be less likely to enact laws that would damage the states ability to compete. We have a state water quality management group that is trying to go above and beyond the feds already.

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  • 3monkeysmomma
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:50pm

    “We are fighting for future generations” to be what, debt slaves to China?

    Dismantle away, Dr. Paul. You rock!

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  • ares338
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:47pm

    They shoot horses don’t they?

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  • ZengaPA65
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:44pm

    Dr Paul should dismantle these dingbats.

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:38pm

    I bet their parents are all on some sort of govt payroll…But that chant was about the lamest iv heard so far……whatever happened to burning your bras ladies. . Now that might get my attention…..

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  • Rayblue
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:27pm

    It’s the hats. Where do they get the hats. They look like psychotic Peruvian llama herders.
    Probably smell like coati mundi from Ixtopalopal. Clorox couldn’t damage that weird effluvium.

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  • Jabber
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:26pm

    http://www.cs.uml.edu/radical-design/uploads/Main/WickedProblems.pdf

    I ONLY stumbled across it BY ACCIDENT while trying to find the most effective way to express what I’m thinking and feeling and experiencing instead of falling prey to the distractions and arguments and debates and endless opinions. (The article calls it something like drowning in the waterfall-of information etc)

    YES! I DO feel like I‘m drowning in a waterfall and I’m BEYOND tired of that feeling!

    So then I started ASKING everyone I’ve met since “Have you ever heard of the term ”wicked problem“ or ”social messes”???” So far today….NOT ONE of them has. So now I want to ask a much larger “sample” of people the same question-

    Have you EVER heard of any of this?

    I’m overjoyed to know that the “experts” not only came up with a way to define what we are ALL experiencing, but ALSO have come up with ways to fight it that make perfect sense! But I’m MAD AS HELL-that in 30+ years since they did it, that this concept AND it’s tools HAVE NOT BECOME COMMON KNOWLEDGE to “we the people”????

    WHY…for the love of ALL that is holy, hasn’t this knowledge and understanding been TRANSMITTED to as many American citizens as possible? ESPECIALLY from those who are “social” movement people?????

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:47pm

      Actually, this is taught in business classes and leadership books. The problem is in group dynamics there is always stress to get group buy-in. But in leadership classes, the emphasis is always put on decision making. What the point in that paper is the frustration in trying to get an overall group buy-in, which isn’t always the best solution. Take 1930’s Germany, the populace was given a problem and the Nazi solution was “The Jews are the Problem”, how do we solve the problem, they then got the majority to buy-in to their solution ( a little simplistic, but you get my point). As a leader or manager, sometimes decisions need to be made and buy-in will take place at a later time. The author’s main point is frustration over trying to get an overall consensus when you have so many points that can veto or stop progress. This is the problem in Govt. and any business that departmentalizes itself. That is why IBM fell apart and couldn’t compete against Apple. That is also what happened to GM, Ford and Chrysler. The companies that empowered their managers to make a decision have been the most successful in the last 20 years. This is also why the OWS movement will fall apart, when you try to function wholly on consensus, progress will never come and you will be mired in indecision and infighting. The most radical elements will make a decision for the group and then force everyone to go along, thus my example earlier of the Nazi’s.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:25pm

      @Jabber,

      I just skimmed through the first part, and I noticed there was a lot of focus on collective problem solving. For example, the paper says the following.

      “Social complexity can be can be understood and used effectively, but it can be ignored only at great peril.”

      This is actually a Marxist philosophy. In fact, it was collectivist thinking that caused the recent housing bubble which sowed the seeds of its own destruction.

      Only free market Capitalism can solve our economic problem, which is a problem of central planners who are literally incapable of doing anything but distorting the price system. Keep in mind that we haven’t had a free market for about 100 years – regulations AND protectionism are not part of a free market, and they both distort the price system.

      See here.

      Stossel – ‘The Tragedy Of The Commons’ 12/5/10 2 of 4
      http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo_OB6iX_5o

      And here.

      Smashing Myths and Restoring Sound Money | Thomas E. Woods, Jr.
      http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAzExlEsIKk

      And here.

      I, Pencil | by Leonard E. Read
      http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwM2HgEA840

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 12:09am

      To tag on to Doctor, another point is “How many communist countries are left?” and how are they doing economically.

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:22pm

    Id be pissed too if i was 50 thousand in debt, with a worthless degree in liberal arts, from a worthless Liberal college, taught by a worthless Liberal professor…. I mean these are basically the morons we are talking about here….. Not a big demand in a down economy for a Drama major with a minor in dance…..

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  • Captain77
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:08pm

    What the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street have in common is anger towards how our current system works. Both the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street are pissed off at the Wall Street Banker Bail outs, the auto industry bail outs, etc. etc… Thats where the commonality ends. I‘ve been to both Tea Party rallies and OWS rallies and the difference between the two couldn’t be more different than night and day. The Tea Party solution is smaller government where as the OWS is a great expansion of government. Tea Party generally wants to return to the principles of freedom found in the constitution. OWS wants to do away with it and become a socialist state. Even the character of people found at either rally greatly differ. Countless American Flags with patriotic spirit is found at Tea Parties, where as little to no flags are seen at OWS, and there is a strong spirit of entitlement found at OWS rallies. I understand the anger found on both sides, but even though I understand OWS, I will never stand with them. Tea Party, we’ve got some work to do. Lets do this!

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:27pm

      But we (Tea Party) aren’t going to ally with those Occupy protestors who support leftist garbage like the EPA. They better get serious.

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    • Dumbwhiteguy
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:00pm

      Hey Captain,

      The illuminati are aging and need to stage attacks to meet their agenda. We have been set up for an international takeover for the last 100 years, and the eggs are hatching. I’m really disappointed at how dumb our people are. Our every move to the next pre-determined crisis is predictable as a crystal ball to the illuminati.

      The plan has been laid out in front of us for years. They are in control of everything and I believe our own fate is in jepordy. Freedom to people is taken for granite and we could all be in a situation that would be covert from what they have witnessed.

      I think it is too late for a party and they know that. I’m sorry to say the reprecussions and inflation of our lifestyle is about at the end of our rope, by design. I can go on and on about agenda 21 and the establishment earmarks but the collective isn’t worth saving.

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    • voodoolife
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 6:46pm

      Yup yup!

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:02pm

    Yes , oh yes , i think i will give up my weekends for the next five months cuz i’ve been lating awake worried silly About those folks down at the EPA… i mean who else is gonna strangle America with revulation and red tape, i mean someones gotta surf the web on their government computer all day tryin to hook up with small phillipino boy… Those poor souls ! I think i will spontaneously protest on their behalf cuz God knows what could happen if America is allowed to build a refinery or a power plant, so come join me and lets make up a really clever chant too…. That ll show em, and i have a liberal arts degree so i can make a nice sign with flowers and dead polar bears, with a minor in dance so i can teach us how to march real real good… Pleaze join in… Thank you, sincerely Trevor…

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  • Jeepzea
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:52pm

    I’m not a Ron Paul fan but the EPA is one of the many beauracies that should go away. They are outside the law in their arbitrary rulings and no one in the government has the guts to do anything. I seriously doubt Paul could destroy it but maybe he could slow it down and make it ineffective.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:59pm

      Maybe he could show you how to read the Constitution. You evudently have not read it…Maybe you should do yourself a favor and take a look at it. then you would understand where ron paul is coming from.

      Republicans say they want smaller Government, but deny the tool that will bring a very small Government to them. Makes no sense to me as to why ether.
      Ron Paul 2012 to end the BS

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    • randy
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:17pm

      If OWS is the 99%, why only 5 people sitting in that doorway?
      HAHAHAHAHA losers!

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:22pm

      Randy, because OWS is very bad at math.

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  • groundzero
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:50pm

    Obama’s champaignors are losers.

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  • jonnyfontain
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:45pm

    These people have lost ALL credibility. They look like children still living off their parents or homeless people looking for more of a hand out, there are no other demographic to this movement. Its pathetic, and nobody cares about their message anymore,…. nobody. Why don’t you stop being a parasite and get a job and start paying into taxes instead of receiving your fed income tax return which each one of you hypocrites gets if you actually work? 48 percent of the public pay NO Federal income tax whatsoever yet those are the people who think that the top 1% that currently pays 40% of the federal income tax needs to pay more? America must be retarded to even listen to these morons in the first place. Do some research before you open your fat, lazy mouths next time and maybe people will follow your movement instead of being embarrassed that you are Americans.

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:44pm

    Paid Democrat Rent a Mobs….. Nothing More …

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  • DetritusScreener
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:43pm

    The problem is that the Republican and Democratic Parties have moved so far out of mainstream America they don’t know what it looks like anymore. They are trying to get everyone to think like their party instead of the party representing how the people think. Ron Paul is the only candidate that is real and has integrity.
    If Ron Paul wins in the caucus and is not nominated, the Republican Party is worthless and will fade away. Ron Paul will get votes for president even if other Republicans want to deny it and fight it. Ron Paul deniers will be the ones who hand the election to Obama again.
    Ron Paul 2012
    The Truth about Ron Paul, “A Question of Morality”.
    READ & LEARN
    http://markamerica.com/2011/12/27/a-question-of-morality/
    I am an Airborne Infantryman; it’s not about letting the terrorists get away. Its about when to fight and how to fight.

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    • 82dAirborne
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:55pm

      I am also a former Airborne Infantryman (11C). I think a President Paul would be dangerous for our country. But I would like to know what the hell A “Ron Paul denier” is? There is a Rep. Ron PAul. I don’t deny that. I disagree with the idea that he is fit to be POTUS.

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    • wakeuplds
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:02pm

      I understand the idea of not compromising on principles. The Primary race is the perfect place to campaign hard for your candidate and point out differences. But I’ve heard over and over from Paul supporters.. “if not Paul, then none at all” and to me that sounds like an abusive husband (if I can’t have her then no one will!) Are you saying that you will vote for Obama if Paul is not the nominee? Honest question.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:56pm

      82 and Wakeup, Do you think the greatest threat to our National Security is the Middle East or our economic condition right now? I believe that the biggest threat is our economic situation. The sad thing is, I believe that ab economic collapse of the entire world is going to happen no matter who we elect as POTUS. What happens if the entire world economy crashes? Do you have any thoughts on that? Will our next POTUS go along with the NWO through the U.N. and hand them the keys to our country or will our next POTUS fight to keep the rule of law under the Constitution and Bill of Rights and truly believe that individual liberty cannot be taken away? Will Iran really be a threat when this happens? Things are going to get very bad very quick and I do hope that we get to the elections before this happens. My opinion.

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    • dnewton
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 10:41am

      Unmolested, the Germans may have perfected the A-Bomb first. The decision to lay back until all of the ideal Libertarian provisos are engaged would be a formula for disaster. The death and destruction as a result of WWII could have been worse under a real Libertarian president. Once the Germans perfected the bomb, they would have had the option of making sure that no other could build one and they would be way better at enforcing it than the UN. All of the personal freedom that Libertarians love would vanish unless you were German or a German lackey. This is all speculation on my part but what tolerance do you have for my scenario being correct? Shall we be neutral until there is a ten percent chance of disaster or must it be 95%? The cost of a miscalculation seems to go up as time goes on and the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction goes on. The only way I would feel safe with a Libertarian president would be for all other world presidents and dictators to also be Libertarian.

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  • dealer@678
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:42pm

    You aint seen nothing yet . Just wait till spring when the weather warms up.

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:40pm

    Where is the EPA monitoring how much these dimwits are pooping outdoors? Sick the EPA on them for that and they will change their tune, and bathroom habits.

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