Doomsday Prophet Harold Camping Speaks Out: ‘A Really Tough Weekend’
- Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:00am by
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Harold Camping, the 89-year-old doomsday prophet who predicted the world would end this past Saturday, has been located and has issued a few words on his failed foresight. Understandably, he sounds a little depressed.
“It has been a really tough weekend,” Camping told the San Francisco Chronicle.
“I’m looking for answers,” he added, explaining that he’s spending time in frequent prayer and consultations with friends.
In the end, however, he’s being tight-lipped. “But now I have nothing else to say,” he said, closing his door on the Chronicle. “I’ll be back to work Monday and will say more then.”
You can bet there will be a lot of people listening.
Meanwhile, one of Camping’s disciples did open up about the world not coming to an end. In Times Square on Saturday Robert Fitzpatrick, the New York man who spent his life savings to advertise doomsday, was timidly defensive as people mobbed him, taunted him, and angrily demanded answers — especially about all those who spent money broadcasting the predictions.
“He’s a good Bible Teacher,” Fitzpatrick said of Camping. “I verified his calculations.”
When asked about what happened (or didn’t happen), he simply responded, “I don’t understand:”
(H/T: Gawker)
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Comments (564)
Bushie
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:25amIf only these reporters where a strong with their question to obama.
Report Post »4blackhorses
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:02pm@ BUSHIE
No friggin‘ kiddin’!! Shoven’ around asking, “are you going to give me my money back.” I was thinking the same thing that they should be asking Obummer if he‘d give back the taxpayer’s useless bailouts he saddled us with. NOT! The darlings of dementia wouldn’t dare play hardball with the pinhead of position.
Report Post »New Dawn Comin
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:24amGod was probably going to end the world on saturday, but then decided not to cuz this man said he knew it was that day.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:24amHow many people’s lives have been destroyed by this person? Every time I hear people start saying that it is the end of times I remember that no man will know the time of the rapture. This supposed religious leader let his personal ego get in the way of what the scriptures says. The people who believed in him should have remembered that and they would have saved themselves from losing allot of money not to mention humiliation. They should have believed in the written word and not this man.
Report Post »tbconrad
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:34amYou can’t place all the blame on Camping for the loss of finances for his followers, If the members of his congregation had a personal relationship with Christ and knew the scriptures they would have dismissed him in 1994. Maybe it’s a wake up call for his followers to not rely on a man but rather on God.
Report Post »Xyskalla
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:14amCamping: “I know the day and the hour Jesus will come back”
Jesus: “No man knows the day nor the hour.”
Score:
Jesus: 2
Camping: 0
Jesus said that the Son of Man will come when you don’t think He will. What part of that does Camping not understand? Does Camping think that applies to everyone except him? Will Camping learn this time, or is he going to take a third guess, impoverish even more people and be wrong all over again?
James 3:1 “Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment.”
Camping needs to do everything he can to make this right, and he can start by selling everything he has to pay back everybody who donated to his campaign, especially those who sold everything they had.
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:24amI’m sure its very tough. given that God has not given anyone, including his son Jesus the date. Therefor Jesus could not tell his followers and there would be no date within the bible – secret, encrypted or otherwise…
So Mr. Camping, I hope your proud of all of the people who blew their life savings to join you in this non-event…. fool.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:23amRapture is scriptural, no one knows the date, religion is man-made, Jesus is the saviour and He is God, sin kills and Christ saves. How simple it is.
Report Post »GENEPAGLIARI
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:22amSir, look to the Bible for your answers. It appears you forgot to do that. The Bible clearly states (in JESUS’ own words) that we will not know the time. All we CAN do is be prepared and discern from many books of prophesy that at this time He is near and will be coming soon.
Report Post »vivrobbins
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:21amEvery generation from the resurrection till now, has believed they were the last. Nothing new. God wants us to live for the day. We have no promise for tomorrow. Just do the best we can with what we have.
Pray for those poor people that got hit with the tornadoes.
Report Post »Katydidnt
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:55amAmen
Report Post »Aaron in Polk County
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:25amTake action to help Tornado victims.
Praying wont shelter a family or feed the hungry.
Report Post »epmonroe
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:18amMaybe, Mr. Camping, it‘s because you’re another self-righteous jacka**.
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BehindBlueEyes
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:18amThis guy is 89 years old and he needs more time to figure out why his prediction didn’t come true?
Report Post »Puzzling why he wouldn’t have thought of his dilemma before?
I don’t know what kind of a mind this guy has but he has ears like dumbo the elephant!
13th Imam
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:27amRemind you of anyone?
Report Post »Satellite dish ears and a God complex.
SICKANTIRED
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:17amWhat’s Next?
Report Post »DonaldH
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:17amWho says it hasn’t started!! I‘m sure the people this morning in Joplin could be convinced it’s has…..
Report Post »porkay78
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:17amI find it amazing that people get so hung up on the end of the world…the end of the world for me is the day I die which could be today, next week or in 50 years….I need to live each day with this mind and not get hung up on all the noise………I pray for all those who followed this man and pity this man who is seems so poor in Spirit!
Report Post »louise
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:12amPorky, best post so far.
Report Post »You are correct for we, individually, are ALL “in our own last days”.
I am so thankful I know Jesus Christ who tells us that “I am the Truth, The Way, and The Life…and no man comes to the Father but through Me.”
stinkybisquit
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:16amLive and learn. (heh. Live. heheheheheh.)
Report Post »fancydancy
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:15amAs always, be careful following any man but Jesus. The Bible tells us we need no man teach us, only the Holy Spirit who will lead us into all truth. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. I would guess his intentions were very honorable but the Bible also says when a prophets’ teachings do not come true, he is considered a false prophet so decide for yourself. One day one of these men will be close to being right when the heavens open and our Lord does return.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:19am“The Bible tells us we need no man teach us, only the Holy Spirit who will lead us into all truth.”
Does that exclude Glen Beck?
Report Post »GENEPAGLIARI
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:25amAnd Jesus said there would be many false prophets in the latter days.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:29amLACT…You are the first to mock God and his people. I would question my own life because to be an Atheist, you are saying that there is no God. How do you know? Do you know everything there is to know? Unless you know EVERYTHING in the Universe, then you should call yourself an agnostic no an atheist. At least when you call yourself an agnostic, you are saying you dont know everything there is to know. The definition of an atheist is to say absolutely there is no God and can never be a God…
An atheist would have to know everything about everything in the universe, therfore he would be God. Are you God? If you are…then there is a God and its you ROFL No….you are an agnostic.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:32amI never said there is no god.
I’m an agnostic atheist. I don’t BELIEVE there is a god because of lack of evidence for one, but I don’t know that.
You are ill-informed about what an atheist is.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:34amThe Bible was written by men. There is no “Holy Spirit” – it’s all an imaginery bunch of nonsense. How sad that people cling to this BS.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:39amBeckisnuts….Two words…Fire suit LOL
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:57amCan’t find that quote in my scripture. Where does it reside? Go away Beck’snuts, we have enough trolls today.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:14amDefine Troll as relates to this site.
Is it someone that you don’t want to listen to? Someone who‘s free speech comments you’d rather not see?
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:16amNot everyone that believes is filled with the Spirit. Jesus rebukes those and says, “I never knew you.” It takes more than mental gymnastics to be filled with the Spirit.According to Romans 8:9, you are none of HIS if you have not the Spirit. He gives the Spirit only to them that obey HIM…OBEY ACTS 2:38.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:19amBOM,
You quoted from the Bible as if it is a fact that what it says is so,
Is there any chance that it might not be true?
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:29am@Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:19am
“The Bible tells us we need no man teach us, only the Holy Spirit who will lead us into all truth.”
Does that exclude Glen Beck?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yes. Beck just says things, and knows things, many of us have already found to be true.
Report Post »TMACK
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:37amLACT – I completely get what you are saying in the squillion of posts you have made on here trying to defend your position on God (or lack there of)!
Faith in God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit IS difficult to understand unless it is personally experienced. For me, I have personally experienced it and that’s why I know there is a God and He answers prayer.
You have every right to believe what you believe and I pray one day you will experience my faith. But I see no need to call you names or belittle you for being an agnostic atheist – nor should anyone else on here.
Report Post »beckwasfox
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 12:26pm@ atheistsThe Holy Spirit lives within me. This indwelling allows me to have a relationship with and hear from God. How could I prove to you that rain bows exist, if you had been blind from birth. The only evidence you would have would be the testimony of others. Sorry if you can’t see the existence of God but it is you who are refusing to develop this sense and gift.
Report Post »AirForceMom2
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:14amI didn’t believe that the rapture was coming this past weekend since the bible says only the Father knows when it will happen. I think everyone is being too hard on Mr Camping, I think he truely believe that he had decoded the bible and that the rapture was coming on 5/21. You guys give him a break.
Report Post »Wingnut80
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:38pmAirforcemom: This is his second time. He predicted the rapture before in 1994. I imagine he’ll be back for round 3 shortly. I believe the Heaven’s Gate and Jonestown leaders were sincere too. It doesn’t make their poison any less deadly.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:14amThe guy who wrtoe BEN HUR started out to disprove the Bible in his novel; he came to the saving knowledge of Christ. He didn’t get religion, he got a relationship with Jesus Christ. The movie was pretty good too.
Report Post »Katydidnt
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:14amI really wish people would quit predicting the end of the world, that includes Glenn. You can talk about the coming chastisement, but it discredits religion when people do this. It’s like well if that was a lie, maybe the whole thing is. It is nothing but hubris, to say that I know when the world is going to end, when even Jesus said, He didn’t.,
Jesus said, don’t worry about tomorrow, today has enough troubles of its own.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:21amGlenn has never predicted the end of the world my friend. Who are you listening to?
Report Post »dsm
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:26amI have never heard Glenn predict the end of the earth. I have heard him talk about one day the earth will end. He has no idea when. Could be tomorrow. Could be a thousand years from now. If you believe what the bible says. The earth will end someday.
Report Post »Katydidnt
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:30amHe talks about Gog Magog, the anti-Christ. I love Glenn, but when I heard him start going down that path, I groaned.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:51amDusty luv, Glenn has indeed predicted the end of the world in our times. You have not been paying attention. Glenn has stated time and again that he believes we are living in the end times and that we will see the “ARM OF GOD” in our lifetmes. You are completely wrong to state otherwise.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:55amThere is no end of the world! It means end of the AGE….The earth abideth forever according to scriptures.Israel is what must be watched.There is yet a seven year period before the end of the age. A treaty (Dan 9:27) will be signed with Israel.The temple is to be rebuilt (See the Temple Mount Faithful group,They are ready to build, Levites have been trained, priestly garments and temple furniture such as the mennorah have been made) Somewhere in the middle of the seven years, the sacrifices are stopped by the antichrist who signed the treaty, he stands in the temple and declares himself to be god.The Jews are told to flee to the mountains (Matt 2415,16): and start counting 1290 days and Christ returns then. They will know the day, but not the hour, after the physical return, the defiled temple is rededicated.This explains the days to be counted in the book of Daniel Chapter 12:9-12.The 1290 days and 1335 days.1335 minus 1290 is 45.There happens to be exactly 45 days from Yom Kippur to Hanukkah.Christ returns on Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) and rededicates the defiled temple on Hanukkah.Hanukkah means rededication.The Rapture and the Coming of the LORD are two seperate events.Learn the Jewish Holidays and their meanings. They are a Holy Convocation (Lev 23:4) Convocation means “rehearsal.”Christ fulfilled the Spring Feast days to the day.The Fall feast days are not yet fulfilled.Feast of Trumpets (rapture) Yom Kippur (physical return) Hanukkah (rededicated temple).
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:03amNuts…You are wrong. He is not predicting God to come he is predicting that you will feel the presence of God at his event in Israel. He has NEVER said God himself would arrive. If you understood scripture, which you dont, you can know the presence of God, but no man knows when God is coming to get us…. But you will probably never understand…Because you are nuts.
Report Post »Komponist-ZAH
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 1:02am@BeckIsNuts–
Report Post »Never mind understanding scripture, how about understanding a metaphor?
Justus39
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:14amNo man knows the day or hour Rev!
Report Post »billwill
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:14amJust another false christ predicting when the rapture will happen. Only the Father know’s the day and hour the rapture will happen. This false christ is making million’s on his false doctrine.
Report Post »ptzeb
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:13amThe Bible says that if a prophet gives a prophecy and what he says does not come true, then he is a false prophet. Camping has foretold the end of the world many times and this one is no different. No one knows the day or the hour, not even the Son but only the Father. If I were he, I would be on my knees humbly asking forgiveness through Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:19amAccording to the Bible he must be stoned to death..Wheres my rock? LOL
Seriously, it goes to show you how gullible people are because they dont read the Bible on their own. They do not understand anything about prophecy and the first person who comes along and teaches them something they follow them.
BTW…we live in grace…dont stone him, pray for him.
Report Post »joyfulmom
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:33amExactly…Want answers? Read the BIBLE! It’s in there! It’s apparent that this guy does NOT read his Bible! He has brought more attention to himself than the message of the gospel that you need to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved for the forgiveness of sins…for all have sinned and in need of a Saviour.
Report Post »JoeAverage
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:13amLACT……. I feel for you and your blindness…. may the Lord wake you up.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:18amOK. let the LORD wake me up. I’m right here. Where is the LORD?
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:22amHes busy…gimme your address…
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:30amIf he was knocking, this man would not let him in. Too puffed up.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:56amSo you‘re saying that god can be kept at bay by a mere human’s ego? Some god eh?
Report Post »ronmorgen
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:08amLiberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:55am
Sparky,
“Quit coming to sites such as this to insult believers.”
The “regular” customers here insult all types of people who they think deserve it – the president, atheists, all types of people.
Why the double standard?
So you are here as a counter attack surt of. Attacking the site because we are pro Christian. and we have said things you don’t like. Buddy, do i go to Daily Kos and attack you liberal Atheist terrorists.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:13amAgain I ask,
Why the double standard?
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:14amMore infantile insults from Beck’snuts. Hater’s hate. Everyone here thinks something will wake this man up to where he could at least listen, But everyone here is wrong about one thing, the ability of Beck’snuts to hear. Hate? Oh man can he hate. Insult? he’s one who always tries. Considerate? NOT. Educated? Not in the biblical sense. Intelligent? A legend in his own mind. I find it hard to imagine what a hollow life this man leads, no wife, a mother that rejected him, a father who left quickly, no girlfriends, nor any true friends. What a pathetic existence. Well at least he has NO GOD to be with him.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:23amSparky,
“Hater’s hate.”
This site is FULL of haters, and I got a newsflash for ya – many of them are CHRISTIANS/RELIGIOUS. Why do you not go after those haters sir?
Why the DOUBLE STANDARD?
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:33amYou ask but you never answer.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:44amSparky,
Why the double standard? If you’d answer once I might stop asking.
Report Post »FreedomFighter2006
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:23amNo hate coming from here. I love ya, bu that doesn‘t mean I don’t think your an idot.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 12:18pmYou ask but never answer (cogently). I asked you specifically “Why must you denigrate the deep beliefs of others?” Your response Because everyone else does it.
Not an answer. Truthfully, why do you insult and denigrate the deep beliefs of others? What inner turmoil enables you to look down your nose at others, simply because they believe in God? Why does that bother you so much that in your mind it makes them less than you, such that you are perfectly comfortable calling them names and insulting them? Seriously, why do you do that? Is that a “right” thing to do, regardless of what others might do?
Report Post »greenherring
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 1:33pmLiberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker = OXYMORON
Report Post »prmermen
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 3:58pm@ liberal athiest and so on. again i ask you ..if athiest believe god does not exist. Why do you insist on fighting against something that does not exist? Shadow boxing? i understand some do not beleive and thats ok. but to fight against sounds more like anti christ. wich an antichrist belives the existance of god other wise they would not fight. so which are you. athiest or anti christ?
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:10amTime to get a new abacus!
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:22amOne with all the beads!!!
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:09amIf he reads the Bible, then he would have known the truth. You can’t use math or anything else to know when the end times are. No one knows except the Creator when the end times are, not ever Jesus. So when you make false predictions then you are just setting yourself up to fail.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:15amHe oes not know the Bible and i doubt he knows Christ…
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:19amWhy would anyone try to “divine” some code out of the Bible. Evidently, this method of mining for data for calculations, is not what the Bible was written for. I’m sure those who are really into this will check their calculations, but hopefully they too will come to take the Bible for what it is, God’s Word, not a hidden mathematical exercise.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:22amI wonder also, Dustylove. If the Bible was looked at so “mechanically,” did they miss the people and and the Way? Of course if they were expecting the Rapture, then they probably felt they had those other things in their hearts and minds.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:35amThe Rapture nonsense came about in the 1800′s. Look it up for yourselves. Glenn is foolish for promoting this silly hogwash.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:37amAgreed Sparky. We can never fully know if a person has embraced Christ as savior or Christ’s teachings to be a better person.. Christ’s teaching do not save you unless you do as He says and ask Him to be your Savior.. Only Christ saves you. Not prophets, not mere knowledge of Christ, not baptism. Christ ALONE saves. Nothing else will save a soul…
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:45amYou are so correct. It really is simple. We make it too hard.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:04amBeck’snuts once again shows his absolute lack of biblical knowledge. He is totally unaware of the Book of 1 Thessalonians and when it was written. Therefore, who could expect him to know anything about what he tries to pass off as his complete “edumacation” of rapture.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:04amYep…people think that being good gets you to heaven. It does not. Lots of “good” people reject Christ.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:40amFalse prophets abound, so beware. Anyone who says anything different from what the bible teaches is a false prophet. Satan is here to deceive. When GOD says it, I believe it, case closed.
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 1:16pmHey Becksnuts just go ahead and post your link to where Beck
Report Post »Has endorsed Rapture or evacuation doctrine.
Does soros hire anyone with brain?
BetterDays
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 4:36pmBECKISNUTS:
Report Post »Actually Christians have always longed for Yessua’s return, Paul wrote often about these days, which incidentally started the day Jesus rose to the Father.
The reason you’ll never accept Christ Jesus is genetic in your case. That extra genome you liberals are so proud to boast about, it’s from fallen angels, yes Demons. Nepahlum and women of men mating, some get the gene some don’t. Not your fault really, an accident of birth, that and getting dropped on your head did you in for eternity bud, sorry it’s the outer darkness for you.
We Christians won’t even remember your names, let alone mark you existence. All this earthy time wasted with not a single atom of remembrance of you, humming, sounds like paradise to me, smile!
@ Coyote2
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:17pmThose cultists have weird ideas, read in the Talmud and see for your self.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:08am“When asked about what happened (or didn’t happen), he simply responded, “I don’t understand:”
Hopefully he will. Hopefully he will realize that he is delusional, as all religious people are, and he compartmentalizes his delusion in a different part of his brain than where he rationally thinks. When religious people learn that they do this they can shed the delusion of religion.
Report Post »NOTAMUSHROOM
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:13amLACT=oxymoron
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:15amWhat a crock.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:21amSparky, if you are religious then you are no different at the core than Camping, you only differ by degree – not kind. You may not start web pages about end-of-world calculations but your delusion (if you are religious) is the same.
Report Post »wolverine
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:22amI really am of the opinion that you should cut your name to 3 words and leave thinker off, because you surely don’t think
Report Post »jacobstroubles
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:27amLACT=oxymoron
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:27amI think you are a sad little person who likes to thing too much of himself (self-esteem issues much?)
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:28amHopefully the human race will embrace reason and reject superstition in the future. Then we can move forward and stop wasting time fighting over whose delusion is right and address real issues.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:29amIf there was no God, there would be no atheists.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:30amShow where my thinking is wrong then, if you just post quips and ad hominems you are the one who isn’t thinking. Any grade school kid can post what you are posting. Think.
Report Post »k_thrash81
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:32am“Critical” yes “thinker” not so much.
Report Post »Brejamin
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:32amHow funny. He rationalizes his beliefs by discounting others and yes atheist still have to have faith there is no god. Atheist are deffinately some the most intellectually stunted people on the planet.
Worse I never reply to people but I justed had to on this one
Report Post »DIOS BENDIGA AMERICA ... JESUCRISTO ES EL SEÑOR!
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:33am@LIB
My flesh man reaction is to want to kick your *ss. My spiritual man reaction is to pity your soul and to pray for you. As the Bible teaches, I must daily pick up my cross and follow the spirit. I have prayed for your soul.
By the way, to believe wholeheartedly in the abscence of heat or even the existence of flame, does not majically cause a physical element to disappear. If I am wrong, nothing. If you are wrong, what then my friend? Give some critical thought to this and ask what if there is an eternal lake of fire for those who reject God. Hell was not made for man, but satan. Man can choose to follow Jesus, or choose to follow satan – either way, we all choose.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:39amAtheists don’t have faith that the supernatural is nonexistent. They know it the same way religious people know the Easter Bunny and Santa are not real. That tired old argument doesn’t hold water.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:42amdios bend american, your critical thinking skills are not up to par and as such, your argument and statement has NO MERIT of any kind. None. It makes no sense. One cannot claim they believe something when they know it is false. To do otherwise is dishonest and would be a lie. Face it.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:42amI have two science degrees. I was where you are now, for over 20 years. And then I did start to really think. I thought, you know I dislike Christians but can accept all others. I dislike Christianity but can discuss all other religions. I really knew nothing about Christianity to have formed such a negative view of it and it’s adherents. So, I determined to find out all I could about it. I studied and asked questions, I meditated on the word, and I prayed. God came to me, and I let him in. I suggest you do the same while you are able to read and comprehend. Quit coming to sites such as this to insult believers. You should be learning to enjoy them, for they are really fine people. Why must you denegrate the deep beliefs of others? If you are so sure of your atheism, then go with it. If you’ve got your answer, fine. Leave others alone. You truly are not as bright as you think.
Report Post »ronmorgen
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:43amYou are holding on to something ( like, “there is no god”) which is twisting your reasoning . If you start with “there is no God”, if you determine that is axiomatic, it will pervert all your reasoning .
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:45amDios,
Your post is chock full of baseless assertions and references to some type of deity, which you haven’t shown exists. You’ll have to provide evidence for it to move forward on an adult conversation level.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:46amDoes one have “faith” that leprachauns do not exist? Does it take faith to believe that Zeus is a myth? Does it take faith to know that Sanata Claus is not real??? Your statement has no merit at all. Atheists are realists who embrace reason and not belief in tthe supernatural.. Get it right for a change.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:50amronmorgen said,
“You are holding on to something ( like, “there is no god”) which is twisting your reasoning . If you start with “there is no God”, if you determine that is axiomatic, it will pervert all your reasoning .”
Where did I ever say there is no god?
Report Post »AwwwYeah
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:50amLACT,
Report Post »Then by your own definition, you and all atheists are no different “at the core” than previous atheists like Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Marx, et al., except that “you only differ by degree- not kind.” You may not start concentration camps, hunger, murder, genocide, or Holocausts, but your delusion is the same. Better start to really think critically.
beckisnuts
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:54amThen AwwwYeah, your belief that Santa Claus is a real person puts you in the same camp as Jeffrey Dahmer, Pol Pot, John Wayne Gacy and Hitler. Off you go.
Report Post »AwwwYeah
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:55amOoops, Forgot to add Lenin to that list. Sorry folks, gotta give credit where credit is due.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:55amSparky,
“Quit coming to sites such as this to insult believers.”
The “regular” customers here insult all types of people who they think deserve it – the president, atheists, all types of people.
Why the double standard?
Report Post »ronmorgen
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:58amIn your name my friend.
Report Post »k_thrash81
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:58amYou wish for someone to refute your puffery? Alright then I will. You stated “Hopefully he will realize that he is delusional, as all religious people are,” what you did right there is a logical fallacy. You made a hasty generalization. Using one, I would argue atypical, case as evidence to support your assertion that all religious people are delusional. Here is a tip for logical thinking. Whenever you find yourself painting any group with a broad brush your logic is flawed rethink your argument.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:05amk_thrash81,
Delusion is holding a false belief. It’s not up to me to meet the burden of proof, it’s up to the religious person to meet it. I am right to conclude they are delusional because no person has ever shown any deity to exist. Ever. All religious people hold this delusion.
Report Post »Aaron in Polk County
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:05amLiberal Atheist and Critical Thinking is not an oxymoron.
Faith and Critical Thinking are diametrically opposed to each other. Believing in a mystical being/entity without any evidence (faith) just because you are told to… now that is moronic.
Why do you believe the Bible is the word of God? Because you are told too.
Why do believe there is a God? Because you are told too.
If someone one writes a book that says good things and has good parables demonstrating ethical behavior, calls it the Bible and tells you to follow these guidelines does not make him a prophet or the book the word of God. It’s simply a good idea.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:07amAvoid the question. Hypocrite much?
Report Post »John 3:16
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:07amReligions can be dangerous, but not because of GOD or JESUS. Jesus did not preach religion period. He preached faith in HIS own blood and GOD”s mercy and love shown to man through the blood of HIS SON JESUS. Failible mAN causes religion to be bad. There are none that are good according to GOD’s standards. Only the precious blood of Jesus makes man right to GOD!. There is only one type of loser in this world, the NON-believer. Religion and athieism are very closely related and seek the same end, a reject GOD attitude. Athieism and Religion are closely related in the end and will never be able to replace Love and Mercy and least of all, atonement with our creator, GOD, or his SON our propitiation for being wayward man.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:11am“Avoid the question. Hypocrite much?”
Who are you talking to?
What question?
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:19amSometimes repitition is a good teaching method, so I will repeat the question: “Why must you denegrate the deep beliefs of others?” Instead of answering, you go blathering about how everyone does it. Why do you do it?
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:22amWhats delusional? believing there is no God or judgement is delusional
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:22amFolks, if you want a definition of “delusional,” here is one from our very own delusional troll: ” It’s not up to me to meet the burden of proof, it’s up to the religious person to meet it. I am right to conclude they are delusional…” Hey troll, delusional much?
Report Post »VNB3
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:23amIt”s my guess you have never been in a foxhole where a live granade gets thrown in. You would be amazed at how quickly Atheists and Agnostics find a belief in God!
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:26am“delusional, as all religious people are”… A critical thinking blanket statement. Dude you’re an idiot.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:26am“Why must you denigrate the deep beliefs of others?”
Why do conservatives here denigrate the beliefs of liberals?
Why do religious people denigrate atheists?
Why do Becjsters denigrate Obama?
Why Sparky, Why oh why…
C.mon Sparky, are you naive? We say what our opinion is on things here.
ALL OF THE MEMBERS DO IT EVERY DAY.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:33amMeyvn said,
“delusional, as all religious people are A critical thinking blanket statement.”
Show me a religious person that is not delusional, and I’ll re-consider. It’s all about the evidence.
I await your evidence that there are non-delusional religious people. If you are claiming religion is not a delusion then YOU have the Burden. The default stance is that until evidence is given we do not accept claims, so the claim that religion is REAL and not a DELUSION the a logical position to take.
Report Post »rds1945
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:36amMaybe you should add “self appointed critical thinker”
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:37amVNB3 said,
“It”s my guess you have never been in a foxhole where a live granade gets thrown in. You would be amazed at how quickly Atheists and Agnostics find a belief in God!”
That’s a logical fallacy – Appeal to common practice.
Report Post »FreedomFighter2006
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:40amLib… This guy doesn’t represent most Christians, just to clear that up. I think he’s a fool for trying to predict the end date anway (that’s just my oppinion).
But in regards to God = Santa Clause… Leprechauns… Easter Bunny… What the heak are you people talking about. If you break down the true idea behind evolution (currently the only other explaination to why we exist besides God creating us) it is WAY more faith filled than believing in God. To think that we randomly were all formed from lightning striking proteins and causing them to come alive and change over time in the extreme elements to become everything that is living today… HA HA HA HA HA… What a joke. Critical thinking says… “That doesn’t sound right.”
AND beings science is based on proven theorys, logic, and reason, how can you base evolution (scientic theory) on such a weak idea of where life came from. Hmmmmmm….? Maybe science isn’t based on truth, but it’s based on anything that man supposidly make work without a greater power being involved. Please enlighten me Lib_Ath_Critic.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:42amSo, you do it “because”? Great answer from such a deep thinker. I think you do it because of your dislike for Christians, because of a deep seated bias and bigotry. I think you do it to artifically elevate yourself in your own mind – you know, you are feeling a little low today so let’s go troll the blaze and find some stupid Christian to insult, defame, call names and stuff it down his stupid beliefs down his stupid throat. Yeah, sounds like you. Either your mother didn’t raise you right, or she is pretty sorry, but it’s one of the two.
Report Post »AwwwYeah
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:43amLACT has just proven through superior logic and reasoning that, “at the core”, ALL atheists are the same as Lenin, Marx, Mao, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Pol Pot, et al. Thanks for pointing out that brilliant observation.
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:46am@beckisnuts?
Who really is casting stones here? The proof of God is everywhere and to go on denying is to be ignorant. Take for example the fact the advancements in the medical field still only have a basic knowledge of the human body and its working and still do not agree on, or know, how we stay alive.
The human spirit has mass. Doctors fear coming out on miracles because of being discredited in their field and associates. Prayer works and I have been miraculously healed by God of several issues and now do not take any medications or vitamins. To constantly deny God is just trying to shore up ones own shortcomings and fears for ones chosen lifestyle. Society as a whole now does think it to be “cool” or acceptable to believe God.
Report Post »So in constantly trying to sway others and use this anti-God school of thought is just rationalizing out in ones own mind to try to feel better about what they know is wrong. It is the same thing that I have seen over and over again. The insecurity of ones self and beliefs needs to be reinforced no matter how wrong it is. If you have ever sat and talked to someone that has killed another human they usually will go on and on trying to feel better about their crime by defending their actions, same can be said here. Trying to rationalize out God is the biggest hurdle to God. Jesus even thanked the Father for revealing Himself to the simple and hiding Himself from those that thought themselves to be wise.
Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:47amSparky – oh Sparky,
Why do conservatives here denigrate the beliefs of liberals?
Why do religious people denigrate atheists?
Why do Becksters denigrate Obama?
Report Post »SREGN
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:47amLCT – I used to be where you’re at. When I look back now I can see how I was squinting my eyes shut real tight and putting my fingers in my ears. The universe virtually screams out evidence of a creator. All we have to do to hear it is to put aside our tremendous egos. I’ll be praying for you, guy.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:47amLACT you remind me of Legion.
Report Post »Allan
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:48amYou evangelical athiests are are quite pitiful! You have lost your spiritual sense. Just because you have not experienced something does not mean it does not exist. Just because those who have experienced the life changing effects of a spiritual awakening cannot describe it or put it in a test tube, does not mean that it is not real.
You cannot describe the tast of salt or a banana to someone who has not experienced it, but it does not mean that salt and bananas have no taste. The only way to know what they taste like, is to experience it.
Your position is arrogant and flawed.
Report Post »PatriotsLikeMe
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:52amad hominems? Oh, yes please! I’d love some! Got any syrup?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:59amIsaac Newton and Albert Einstein were religious and far, far more intelligent than you’ll ever aspire to be. That’s not an insult, they were just heads and shoulders about you, me, everybody here. So much for “delusional”.
Hope your day gets better, it sounds like you harbor a lot of anger.
Report Post »Top Hat
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:09amLACT, prove to me you had breakfast (assuming you did). Try to use the scientific method first in your proof. Then let’s go from there…
Report Post »Bhaub
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:29amHi Top Hat,
Judging by the fresh egg shells in the top of LACT’s trash can, the plate containing scraps of scrambled eggs which are still a bit warm, the heated frying pan (measuring the temperature and knowing the speed at which metal cools, we can learn time), the butter knife with fresh butter on it, the toast crumbs on the otherwise clean and dust-free counter, the increased calories in LACT’s body, his stomach contents themselves, his slight increase in mass (measured in grams), the tiny bits of bread and egg remaining in his second premolar tooth, you can strongly suggest he’s had breakfast, reasonably assuming the time and contents.
There.
Now, please use the scientific method to prove your specific deity. And please not that I didn‘t use LACT’s journal to prove what happened, since written words aren’t scientific evidence- just hearsay. :)
Oh, and I also didn’t make any big leaps- for example, I don’t assume he used a giant fire-breathing dragon to cook his food.
Report Post »tommee
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:53amHey Ghost
You’ve got your facts wrong. Einstein was not a Christian believer… more of a pantheist.
Report Post »tommee
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:59amHey Ghost
Of course you do know that Ayn Rand was an atheist too!
Report Post »Top Hat
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:04amBhaub, thanks for the reply. You gave an interesting reply, but you did not prove anything, according to the scientific method. Grateful for your response, but I am more interested in LACT’s response and taking him step by step thru critical thought.
Report Post »FormerLib
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:06amI do not believe in China. Oh, I know, millions of people claim to be from China. Some have claimed to have seen it. But how do they know? I have never seen China, and do not believe it exists. You say I can fly to China and actually set foot there? So how do I know it’s really China, and not somewhere else? Just because someone says so?
At some point, everything comes down to a matter of faith. To say one is absolutely certain there is no God takes a lot more faith than I have. It’s a bit like saying that if I stumble upon a pile of iron ore (how it got there is anyone’s guess) it is rational to believe that given enough time, it will transform itself into a skyscraper or an F-22 fighter. Ridiculous? You bet, but no more ridiculous than believing our entire planetary system and human life itself, infinitely more complex than any building or airplane, happened all by itself.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 12:11pmHey, Tomee
I didn’t say Einstein was a Christian, I said he was a Jew. Judaism is..gasp…a religion. Please attend closer to what you’re reading before you hit the “Reply” button. Thanks.
And yes, Rand was an atheist. What does that have to do with the discussion precisely? I suspect I know but it amuses me to allow people who assume things to go all the way down the road before I correct them.
Report Post »gofigureinternational
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 12:48pmYou folks, you have quite a debate going on here. My question would be why try to convince the inconvincible, either way. One post said, “There is no proof that man has ever proven a deity exists”. In your vein of argument, would that not be the story of Jesus Christ with references to raising the dead, doubting Thomas, miracles, etc.? Of course they did not have digital pictures or a video tape back then, but wasn’t it 9 of 12 of the apostles were crucified after the death of Jesus, along with one’s wife? A couple of these even upside down. Now again, believer in a higher power or not, would you have subjected yourself to this if you knew beyond a doubt it was all simply a scam by a guy that was eventually nailed to the cross? Why bother, it would have been simpler to said, that Jesus Christ was a sham and his enemies would have loved that statement being circulated by one in his inner circle. If 9 of 12 were killed in a horrendous way for their continued beliefs after he was crucified, and a few jailed for continuing beliefs, doesn’t that seem convincing? If not, then nothing will short of a personal miracle, even then after time passed, people would rationalize that it was not “proof”, just blind luck. Believe or don’t, now my position to say one way or the other, just observing both sides of your arguments.
Report Post »tommee
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 1:20pmHey Ghost…
Einstein may have been born of Jewish parents, much as I have Catholic parents. But he outright rejected the personal God concept of Judaism… the religion didn’t fit into his rational concept of the universe.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 1:27pmTomee,
He was religious, guy. He believed in a God. Sorry, it’s a fact. And that was my only point to the person I was responding to. Being religious does not make one a low rent thinker, bottom line. To suggest as much is to engage in an amazing amount of hubris, arrogance and ignorance.
Report Post »DIOS BENDIGA AMERICA ... JESUCRISTO ES EL SEÑOR!
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 1:42pm@LACT
Report Post »You lack clarity. Agnostic Atheist is as chaotic as Liberal Critical thinker. Do you believe that there is life and death? Wrong or right? Let me see if I can think like you…OH the pain….Okay…I am NOW the pretend Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker…teehee…”I do not accept any absolute right or wrong, because if I did I would have to change my lifestyle and I am too selfish and I do not want anybody saying that whatever I feel is right is wrong – I mean, just who do they think they are, God? I am an agnostic atheist therefore, ALL who would disagree with me must show me the existance of a supreme being. Just think about it, you who are less intelligent than me, you put your faith in some delusion, but everything I believe in is about ME so I could show you ME if I had to, but you can never show me God. Yes, I know that I breath air, I don’t have to show you my air though I can prove that air exists chemically but for you to tell me that some giver of Life allows me to breath what is available for all is asinine. Okay, Okay, I am going to add one more adjective to my name: Gay_Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker – How do you Christians like that, huh? I said it and God has not took my life, no lighning from Heaven has struck me, so I am right and you Christians are delusional people. Let me live my life the way I want to and don’t judge me, because only God can and since I don’t believe in God, then I am never going to be judged.” AHHH, back to myse
tommee
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 1:54pmHey Ghost… from the words of Albert Einstein, March 24,1954.
“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”
Do you still think Einstein was a religious man?
Report Post »DIOS BENDIGA AMERICA ... JESUCRISTO ES EL SEÑOR!
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 2:00pm@beckisnuts
You and your butty LACT could even be one in the same as far as I am concerned. Both of you spew the same vile.
Hey man (gender neutral), I love your soul and because I would not want anyone to die without salvation, I have in faith just touched my computer screen and prayed that God would have mercy on you, that does not save your sould, you will have to pray for you, but I hope it helps. If that offends you sorry, I however would want anyone (besides a wicken) to think positively, pray, or just wish me the best in my life. Consider that done for you.
Eventhough politically we will be polar opposites, and eventhough you believe all Christians are nuts, does not mean that I would ever want your soul to go to hell. But that would be me assuming that you believe in hell, which would open the door to you believing in God, which brings us back to where we started. Hey man, BeckisNutsisNUTS!
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 2:23pmPlease do not condemn all religions simply because you are a disgruntled christian. And please don’t condemn all christians because of some misguided followers.
Report Post »lisa2994
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 2:23pmI look at it as a reality more than a religion!!! I would love to see the look on your face when you see there is a GOD!!!
Report Post »ttbone
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 3:08pmLACT
Report Post »As a “critical thinker” you are quick to sum up the lives of billions of people as ‘delusional’, yet you seem so sure that you are in the right. A true critical thinker would realize that in any field of study, from physics to religion, we know next to nothing about anything. If you are going to call all people that believe in a religion delusional you would also need to call all people who believe in gravity delusional. By looking at our modern understanding of physics we understand God about as much as we understand gravity, and there are many theories out there about both. So act like a critical thinker you can come to your own conclusions, but don’t ridicule others for having there own.
James
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 3:28pmLACT,
I try very hard to avoid posting in any forum, but you are a special case indeed. In the end, you have nothing to prove to anyone as your beliefs will go to the grave with you alone. All I have to say is that you had beter hope you are right about your beliefs.
Report Post »In_Maine
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 3:41pmRestated in correct location:
Atheists seem to be drawn to the line of reasoning that since those who believe in God cannot scientifically prove His existence then there is no such thing as God.
I posit the converse to also be valid, and I challenge the Atheists to scientifically prove that God DOESN’T exist. It cannot be done.
Report Post »Amica
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 4:15pmI don’t know why I am continually surprised at the arrogance and smug self-satisfaction of athiests.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 4:27pm@LACT: Enemy of truth.
Report Post »Who needs religion when one can know GOD personally.
Religion is man trying to write rules beyond GODs rules, not a good fit.
But knowing this one can hold a faith/ belief system beyond a religions dogma, and have a very wonderful knowledge of GOD.
It is enough that GOD is, if you don’t believe, then I say you weren’t meant too, though by free will you could choose too at any time.
Question: how do you know the wind exists, for if it blew and picked up no particulate matter, it would be as it truely is, unseen. Only it’s effect is seen, the same applies for GOD, His effect is in your very being, and in all around you, but you deny it because in your little world you are the greatest thing since dirt. sad really.
SpeckChaser
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 7:34pm@ LACT
If I were an atheist, my first question I would need answered would be what created earth. This would have to be answered before I tackled “delusional religious people” or ANY other question because I like my buggy behind the horse where it belongs.
Being the logical atheist critical thinker I would supposedly be. I would not accept the answer of “Nothing plus no one equals everything.” I would also reject the reasoning stating particles banged together and created everything, until, the same people who claim we have been here for “Billions of years” explained why that elusive coincidence has yet to happen again. I myself would need an answer to this question before any further pondering could take place. I will be praying for you.
“Danger close knows no atheists”
Report Post »Wingnut80
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:53pmNot his first time at this rodeo.
Report Post »“As for Harold Camping, he previously said the world would end in 1994. It appears he is now 0 for 2.”
I’m sure he will find another miscalculation and revise his date again. Hopefully fewer dimbulbs buy into for round 3.
liferanger
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 2:22amLACT, here is the link
http://youtu.be/isV0qR-CKeQ
“Death smiles at us all; All we can do is smile back”
Report Post »Bhaub
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 11:24amHi Top Hat,
…I‘m not entirely sure what you’re looking for with the “scientific method” to prove breakfast. If you’re not going to accept heat, time, chemical analysis, the five senses and logic, what are you after? You can very easily prove that someone had breakfast and WHAT that breakfast was with science. It’s done all the time in, say, a murder case. You examine physical evidence to understand what’s going on. If you see that a victim had been poisoned, then you see that his stomach contains a signature dish from a fancy restaurant laced with poison, you can start tracing your way through the chefs, the staff, people with access to the meal, etc. If you find blood samples and get a DNA match, you know the person the blood belongs to. This isn’t unfamiliar, right? Any episode of CSI or Law and Order will give you the basics. It’s not always exact on TV, but you get the idea…
If you‘re going to say that physical evidence isn’t scientific, I‘m afraid you’re lost. :\
Report Post »imreddog
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 12:43pmTo all of us that are critical of the Athiests.
Report Post »Remember, Paul, whos writings make up most of the New Testament was once known as Saul. Saul hated the Christians and spent much time hunting down the Christians to be murdered. We are directed by Jesus the Christ to not destroy the tares (unbelievers) for a reason… some of them will find salvation before they die… and any and all who find salvation are cause for rejoicing.
I am as guilty as others of not being patient and of being too critical, so don’t follow my example, follow the example of Jesus the Christ and His disciples and the words of the Bible. Debate is OK, but name calling and hatefulness will not win a non-believer over… they will only respond in a like manner becoming more determined than ever to “win their argument” against God.
TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:04amWhat fodder, indeed. Bring on 12/21/12! Oh, and that happens to my birthday. Oooweeeeooo!!!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:14amThrough Lord Jesus, we have been warned of false prophets, and that none save for the Father know of the day when the return shall be…let each person judge this matter in accordance to their own set of values and understanding.
For me, most know my oppinion of the Rapture theory (search it out on the internet), and the fact it is a myth; yet if this failure over the weekend leads more people to study and search out the bible on their own, to find the truth by God’s light and guidance, then all for the better.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:14amHappy Birthday! Your life is over!
You will see a greater panic on 12/21/2012 becuse the prediction is not rooted in Christianity. Since it isnt rooted in Christian teachings the world will not reject the teachings but rather embrace them… therefore people will listen to the false prophets of the Incas and worldwide panic will set in…Count on it. Too many influencial people are buying into this garbage…They will be more than a little suprised when NOTHING happens…again.
Idiots of the world will unite om 12/21 for sure….12/22? OOPS…
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:14amIf he is looking for answers I suggest he look in the mirror and see the obviously senile old man who was looking for 10 more minutes of fame before he dies. I was going to say ‘death panel comes to get him’ but he is one of Obama‘s boys so they probably wouldn’t bother – they need the votes.
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:15amWhich part of “no man will know the day nor the hour” didn’t this moron understand?
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ISeeDanger.com
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:15amNo man shall know…
http://www.ISeeDanger.com
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:26amIronman, please don’t be so harsh on him. He’s made a big mistake (hopefully his last one to involve others to such a degree).
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:30am12/12/12 is just as big a scam as this was. So is the fear and the “we will see the ARM OF GOD” predictions Beck has been spewing. You Beck followers should wake up and realize that truth. The time is right for it.
Report Post »ronmorgen
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:30amNo man knows the day or hour, but the season. We know the season.
Report Post »GODSAMERICA
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:31amOops, he must have forgotten to carry the one.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:40amHis quote sums it up perfectly “I don’t understand”. Study a little deeper, do not discard anything. It all is there for a reason.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:47amIt would appear that it is the non-Beck followers that need to learn the Truth.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:07am“I don’t understand”
You might try re-reading the Bible. “No man shall know the day or the hour”
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:12amHe’s looking for answers all right, answers like “how do I spend the millions of dollars I conned people out of”, for example.
Report Post »Cptnjarhead
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:14am@Becksnuts
Report Post »how does it feel?
GIDEON612
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:17am“But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.”
Mark 13:31-33 (in Context)
If you will notice all of these types of predictions are the same tactics as the Dems.
“Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.”
2 Corinthians 2:10-12 (in Context)
Wake up and seek Christ alone. Man WILL fail you! Learn to lean on God and listen to HIM.
Report Post »VNB3
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:17amAs a father of 4 young boys, the last thing I want to do is parish right now. Dusty, you are wrong about the Incas, it was the Mayas. Get you facts straight. (By the way they have been pretty darn accurate). They used allignment of the stars and planets to confirm the dates for their predictions. Their calander is more precise and accurate than the Julian calander. However who in the h-e-double toothpicks thinks they can tell or think they know when God almighty will do something. His decisions do not revolve around us. We revolove around his! That is the flaw I see with this knucklehead preacher, the Iranians and the radical Muslims, Jim Jones (from Guyanas Jonestown), and the like. The audacity of some human kind saddens me. Live your life guided in God’s principals, and know that only through Jesus Christ will you make it to be with God. Come when or what may!!!
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:21amHe looks as if the end of his days will come any moment. I think Beckisnutsisnuts has a man crush on Beck. Lucky Beck
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (escaped PA)
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:33am@snowleopard
Report Post »“Jesus”, whom you say warns you a false prophet, is an image of a false prophet. Yeshua is not. Same man, different teachings. One(Yeshua) is Messiah the other is Anti-Messia; the image of the beast.
rose-ellen
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:38amMaybe one day these gullible americans will realize how brainwahed by propaganda they
Report Post »have been in their one sided support of the racist expantionist israeli state too.Never underestimate the sheep like mentality of the “most informed people on the face of the earth”; They really are a bunch of ignoramussus willing to go kill people and get themselves killed at the drop of a hat when they’re told to by their media[and brainwahed politicians].Long live the freedom fighting people in the Mid East!Their cause is just ,they fight with whatever they have [as do we and the racists israeli's].
jkendal
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:42amFTA: “I’m looking for answers,” he added, explaining that he’s spending time in frequent prayer and consultations with friends.
Maybe he should spend more time actually READING the Bible…..
Report Post »mikelivi
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:57amWhat morons, forget about these idiots!!!!!!!
Report Post »imreddog
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:02amThere are some things to remember/know.
1) There is no rapture, it is false doctrine started by a “vision” of a young girl about 170 – 180 years ago. The Matthew 24 preachers have purposely “mis-interpreted” scripture to further the lie of the ratpure.
2) Only our Heavenly Father knows when the second coming of Jesus the Christ is.
3) Most preachers who call themselves Christian, aren’t… but they love the money and adoration that is heaped upon them.
4) There will be many good people that end up in the Lake of Fire because they have believed the Matthew 24 preachers instead of studying the Bible as directed by Jesus the Christ.
5) Most of what the preachers are telling you is false doctrine; Like Christmas, Easter, going to Heaven, where the streets of gold and the gates of pearl are, keeping the Sabbath, and on and on.
This should stir up a hornets nest… because some people would rather the tossed into the Lake of Fire than to admit that they have accepted a lie. ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE YOUR PREACHER OR THE BIBLE?
Report Post »Mustangdave
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:09amParty at TRONS place….see ya’ll there 12/21/12
Report Post »LittleLordFauntleroy
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:18amNo man will know the day or the hour but someone might know the week or the month or the year. Fussing math never works.
Report Post »jeffile
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:21amWhy doesn’t anyone see the obvious? The pastor never adjusted for the days lost when we changed to the Gregorian calendar. Now, if this fellow wasn’t aware of the loss of days then, aside from the fact that no man knoweth, he doesn’t have a clue of what he is talking about. Pray for those who listen to this antiChrist.
Report Post »Evileye
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:29amI Would Imagine he spent all weekend counting the 18 million dollars he raked in scaring the
Report Post »Sh— t out of a lot of brain dead people’
He can add this the $108,000,000.00 that he now has.
Doom is coming OH! by the way send Money
tommee
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:45amCamping made the mistake of trying to concretize religious dogma. If he had kept his beliefs of the return of Christ in the realm of faith and superstition where they belong, he would have spared himself the ridicule and the unfortunate financial ruin of many of his clueless followers.
As long as Christian dogma like the return of Christ can fester outside of reality in the minds of the gullible, some charlatan like Camping will come along to make a name for himself.
Report Post »joyfulmom
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:48amI’ll just take this time to give the gospel of Jesus Christ, for all have sinned, we are born into sin and there is none righteous no not one, we‘ve broken all of God’s commands, just ask the question, have you ever told a lie? All have. While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us on the cross for our sins, He took the punishment that we deserve on Himself and when we repent and believe on Him for the forgiveness of sins then He will give us a new heart, new creatures in Christ and write His laws on our heart. We must repent, turn for our sins and believe on Jesus Christ, fall on your knees and cry out to God for mercy and for Him to open your eyes to TRUTH…amen.
Report Post »FormerLib
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:50am“I don’t understand.”
Clearly, the understatement of the year. The bible cannot be more clear on the foolishness of predicting times and dates. This is what happens when people devote a life to trying to figure out what it REALLY means instead of taking it at it’s word.
Report Post »FormerLib
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 10:56am@IMREDDOG
No rapture?
Report Post »Go read 1st Thessalonians, chapter 4 and get back to us. No one can predict when it’s coming, but that isn‘t the same as saying there isn’t one. Of course, if you want to stay when the other believers are taken up, that’s up to you. You can tell Jesus it’s all crap and runs counter to your study of the issue. Maybe you can show Him where His word doesn’t mean what it says.
BJColter Country Music Iconoclast
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:18amHarold, Jesus returns returns AFTER the seven years in Revelation. The antichrist needs to come on the scene. Is it OBAMA? Needs to be from the mideast, not given to the way of women.
OBAMA surely is of the antichrist spirit, opposing Israel and mocking the Bible. Check this out for more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXvRDmM5Zx4
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:25amWhat does “he” mean, he doesn’t understand? I understand perfectly when IT says, we will not know the day or time. I believe God, not the self proclaimed prophets who name themselves “God’s Servants.”
Report Post »We are all God’s servants if we follow HIM. Yes, there are wonderful biblical scholars I appreciate, but I do have to question the ones who claim things we’ve been warned against. Beware! Don’t believe everyone who says God, God without proof of the spirit.
followthefounders
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:41amIt’s pretty obvious that we will all be around for awhile…so why not be smart and benefit from
Report Post »http://www.i-m-prepared.com
Rightsofman
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:43amMr. Camping just say: OOPS MY BAD.
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 12:01pmHopefully, from this moment of realizing that no mere man can know what Scripture clearly says only God knows, Camping and his followers will be driven into Truth. Scripture Speaks For Itself! Camping, et al, will find Truth by researching Scripture sans a mere human’s flawed perspective.
Report Post »AwwwYeah
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 12:28pmThe sad reality is that Camping and his followers have put such a huge amount of time, energy, and emphasis into forming elaborate theories and calculations that can only be called “guesses” at best, while ignoring the simple, plain truth of verses that speak without ambiguity. “No man knoweth the day or hour.” Proclaiming the Rapture and return of Jesus wasn’t their problem. Declaring a day and hour was. End of discussion.
Report Post »DavidD
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 12:41pmYeah Harold being a false prophet can be a tough business! Harold apparently didn’t read his Bible thoroughly enough. We can know the season, but not the hour.
Report Post »bts61240
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 12:54pmI am sure you’ll have a happy birthday and we will all wake up the next day to have a second slice of cake :-)
Report Post »cstinem
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 1:29pmTo SNOWLEPARD: You don’t believe in the rapture and then tell people to look it up on the internet??? I advice is to look it up in the BIBLE since that IS God’s word. IF people would have read the Bible they would have known that this clown is a false prophet, a real prophet is right 100% of the time – he has struck out long ago and is now regulated as a nut false prophet and he admit his sins to God and ask for forgiveness AND stop with the fortune telling. Christ is going to return when God Almighty tells him to not before not after… That is why the Bible tells us to ALWAYS be ready for His return. Stop listening to false prophets and start reading the word of God.
Report Post »GODSAMERICA
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 2:30pm@rose-ellen
Report Post »Perhaps even if you don’t believe the Bible then perhaps you should learn history. Your ignorance showing no bounds. If you knew history then you would know that the people that call themselves palestinian actually have no reason to be where they are. When Israel was given their nation in 1948, the palestinians were also given land for their own state. This land was called TransJordan and was actually a larger area of land than Israel got. The jordanians stole that land and forced the palestinians to stay where they are now just to cause the problems that they are causing now. They have absolutely NO claim to any part of Israel. Of course the way that it is now, any one that supports the terrorists over there (which technically just about all of them are) is supporting terrorism themselves. Which in mind at least that would actually make you a terrorist, just not with enough courage to do anything about it. Either that or you are so gullible that if you were around Jonestown when it was still going, you would probably have been one of the very first people to jump up, grab the koolaid and drank up. Whatever you do I hope it is not something that calls for thinking since you are obviously not capable of that.
paperpushermj
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 2:43pmWhats wrong with everyone. Have you not heard of a margin of error!
Report Post »Juan Gault
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 2:58pmno man knows the hour or the day………….it is written.
Report Post »In_Maine
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 3:02pmAtheists seem to be drawn to the line of reasoning that since those who believe in God cannot scientifically prove His existence then there is no such thing as God.
I posit the converse to also be valid, and I challenge the Atheists to scientifically prove that God DOESN’T exist. It cannot be done.
Report Post »PHYLLIS WESTBURY
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 3:45pmHey ! That’s my BD as well. Only God knows what the day and hour will be. I don’t worry about when it will be. I know the Lord has promised that we who love and obey him will not be harmed.
Report Post »UPSETVET
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 4:17pmCamping’s prediction of the end of the world has been proven to be a hoax or maybe simply a mistake of judgement. Holy Scripture plainly tells us that NO MAN knows the day or hour that the world will come to an end. Jesus Christ has said that even HE didn’t know what is only known by our heavenly Father. Like other “end of the world predictors”, Camping is struggling to come up with the answers as to why the world didn’t end as he announced it would. The answer is simple, it wasn‘t God’s appointed time to end the world that He himself created.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 4:40pmWhat part of “no man knows the day or hour” did this guy just gloss over, or does he think he’s not a man?
Report Post »Yikes, how it disturbs me when the bible isn’t interpreted by itself. Really, if you don’t understand something in GODs word, keep reading you’ll get the meaning sooner or later, in scripture.
HINT Damiel and Revelations unlock each others prophetics, hmm last book old, last book new, whoda thunk it.
LetUsReason
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 4:51pmWhy are they all being jerks? The guy was sincere about his beliefs, and he got duped by a con-man. He lost his life savings, and he seems like a decent human being. Leave him the he!! alone, let him get on with his life, and get on with yours.
Report Post »imreddog
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 5:08pm@formerlib.
Report Post »I’ve read it many times. The “rapture” is not in the Bible… period! You have believed the lies of your pastor. I strongly suggest that you study the Bible yourself, praying each time that God will reveal to you His Word. I think that the Rapture is a great idea… but the problem is that it just isn’t Biblical, anymore than “the saved go to Heaven”. Those who have salvation go to New Jerusalem.
My guess is that your preacher also told you that Christians didn’t need to keep the Sabbath (Friday sundown to Saturday sundown) or that it just doesn’t matter what day you keep. He/She most likely said something about “nailed to the Cross”. In the past I believed the same things that you believe… I believed the lies! Then, I started studying the Bible for myself and never rejected what others said until I personally looked to see what the Bible really said about each subject. What I found is that most preachers are those whom Jesus was talking about in Matthew 24:4-5. The truth won’t get you many friends, but it will get you Salvation…. I choose Salvation & my Heavenly Father.
jzs
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 5:08pmActually, I’m in Heaven now as well as a few other new people who showed up Saturday. Didn’t see anybody from the Blaze though.
Report Post »Rowgue
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 5:33pm@DUSTY
Except that the Mayans never predicted that the world is going to end on Dec 21, 2012. That’s simply when the calendar they made runs out. It was modern day tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theory kooks that made the leap that that means the world is ending. And the many different end of the world prophecies of various cultures are used to prop up that assertion even though they are unrelated in any way whatsoever and are just general “the world will end” prophecies that have no element of a specific timeline.
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 7:05pm@JZS
I was shocked, confused, bewildered
As I entered Heaven’s door,
Not by the beauty of it all,
Nor the lights or its decor.
But it was the folks in Heaven
Who made me sputter and gasp–
The thieves, the liars, the sinners,
The alcoholics and the trash.
There stood the kid from seventh grade
Who swiped my lunch money! Twice.
Next to him was my old neighbor
Who never said anything nice.
Herb, who I always thought
Was rotting away in hell,
Was sitting pretty on cloud nine,
Looking incredibly well.
I nudged Jesus, ‘What’s the deal?
Would love to hear Your take.
How’d all these sinners get up here?
God must’ve made a mistake.
‘And why’s everyone so quiet,
So somber – give me a clue.’
‘Hush, child,’ He said, ‘they’re all in shock.
No one thought they’d be seeing you.’
All joking aside. I hope you finde Jesus!
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:34pmSo what exactly is the difference between this guy and Glenn Beck? The only thing I can think of is that Beck keeps his time-frame for the apocolypse vague, so he can avoid these kinds of problems.
Report Post »MuskratProblem
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 8:55pmINSTALLING RAPTURE.
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veruca salt
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 9:18pmExactly, Publius. Beck doesn’t have strength in his convictions to name a date like Mr. Camping. More money to be made shilling survival products and self-promoting while he keeps feeding the fires of anticipation and equivocating.
Report Post »SovereignSoul
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:16pmI think the Rapture did occur. It appears that there are a number of people who are not as “saved” as they thought.
Report Post »v-vet1968
Posted on May 23, 2011 at 11:28pmThis guy could an advisor too King Barry.
Report Post »Blazergirl
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 12:10am@IMAREDDOG and SNOWLEPORD
Report Post »What Bible are you reading? I read The Holy Bible (New International Version) . Mathew 24 does not talk about the Rapture. Jesus is answering the questions that was asked of him about the End of Times. You know, like famines and earthquakes. “All these are the begining of birth pains” said Jesus.
Now on the subject of the Rapture: Here it is:
1 Thessalonians:16-18
For the Lord Himself will come down from Heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage each other with these words.
1 Corinthians 15: 51-54
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep but we will all be changed- IN A FLASH, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with the immortal, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.”
Hope all of you are ready for the best thing ever!!!!
Lost Shaker Assault
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 1:01amThat is also my late elder-brother’s birthday. He would have reached the age of 65 years. I can tell you I will spend the day weeping for him. I have also read that a few years ago that famous Mayan calendar was broken in an accident, while filming a commercial.
Report Post »liferanger
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 2:19amLACT, Wonder if you would give your op-ed of a little vid. I think I would be offended if I was of your belief system.
http://youtu.be/isV0qR-CKeQ
The patron saint of materialism, and scientific reason, his Highness Carl Sagan believed in an Eternal Universe, but utterly rejected the possibility of an Uncaused Being. I wonder is Carl reconsidering now?
“Death smiles at us all; All we can do is smile back”
What do you think?
Report Post »imreddog
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 10:27am@ Blazergirl
What Bible are you reading? I read The Holy Bible (New International Version) .
Ans. I have a NIV, but I only read the KJV. They say differnent things and they both can’t be correct, so I read the oldest version that I can find and read.
Mathew 24 does not talk about the Rapture.
Ans: Correct, the verses in Matt 24 that I am referring to is;
Matt 24:4-5
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.(KJV)
This refers to the preachers that twist the truth to make people believe a lie, like the Rapture
1Thes 4:13-17
Report Post »13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.(KJV)
When you read the next post you will see that this happens at the last trumpet, not bef
imreddog
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 10:40am@Blazegirl (continued)
1 Cor 15:51-54
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
(KJV)
Verse 51 doesn‘t say that we won’t die because we will. It says that we will not lay in the grave and will instantly be given an uncorruptable body.
Verse 52 says “at the last trump” (trumpet) This is not before the Tribulation.
Matt 24:29-31
Report Post »29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.(KJV)
It is very difficult to make a point on this site because of the limited space
Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 11:38amAnd THIS time, I’m being honest which you.
Report Post »eDy3
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 1:13pmGuess what is very very ironic about this whole failed predication is that it uses the Bible and yet the Bible says “No man knows the THE DAY OR THE HOUR which I will com again! How can someone be so stupid!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »@ Coyote2
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:02pmJust another religious jerk. This is something that is going to happen but these air heads don’t know any more then dead rat!
Report Post »survivorseed
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 8:48pmDoes it annoy you Blazers that the only man God chose to take to heaven on the 21st was Randy “macho man” savage? Now you will all come to hell with me in october. See ya there
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