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Dr. Drew Predicts ‘Massive Flight’ of Physicians & Hospital Closures Because of ObamaCare

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  • I like Ike
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:37pm

    How would you like to be a new Dr just out of med school and find out you will be making minimum wage! lol

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    • i4nsicmd
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 9:14pm

      No joke here…many US docs are now making FAR LESS than the average Fed. Govt. drone (who’s making $150K +/yr + bennies), after sacrificing anywhere from 7 to 13 years of medical training (depending on specialty) just to get there. Good private doc’s will continue to practice strictly fee for service for wealthy patients (including Fed. and State Govt. elites and their families). The rest will get foreign medical grads from Mexico and Zimbabwe.

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    • joy2002cjm
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 10:54pm

      I am
      I am just 5 years out of residency, huge debt, new business and practice startup costs facing all of this….. solo. I pray I can continue, so do my patients.

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  • BobParker2003
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:36pm

    Do you have any idea hoe many insurance companeis are getting out of the business too? No one cares but when you cut the competition you increase prices too. That is what Obama wanted and it is happening. A often ignored item in Obamacare is the fact that the insurance companies are not forced to spend 45% more on customer care. So where are these $ coming from? The companies still have to pay employees to pay claims, they still have to market the product, they still have to hire lawyers to defend the never ending lawyers law suits. They are not forced to increase prices to make up the difference even beyond the fact that they have to offer so many more services under ths stupid law. The result of Obamacare is doctors leaving the business. hospitals closing and insurance companies throwing in the towel. The result for the average american is going from the best health care in the world to the worst. Get ready America for the stories of peoples death because they can’t find a doctor or a hospital even with insurance, if they can afford it that is.

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  • alienguns
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:22pm

    I have a couple friends that are doctors……….they are in their 50′s….they are already making plans to close their practice and retire from the medical field…it is too bad because they are wonderful doctors…they have already sold their building and facilities to the local hospital and are phasing themselves out……..along with their practice, they had the only urgent care facility in the county..they were open after regular hours so if it wasn’t a life threatening emergency you could go there instead of the hospital emergency room

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    • Caitlinmd
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 10:06pm

      I’m 21 and a possible med school student by 2012. I‘ve been set on being a doctor since I started college and now I’m tempted to get out, but to what? I changed my major to Athletic Training when I started my second semester of my junior year just so I could have a backup plan. It’s kept me in school an extra semester, but it could be worth it considering my prospects. Unfortunately, ATs may be too close to the health care system for me to be safe even there. I’ve been debating since health care passed- do I go to med school and hope Obamacare goes away?
      My present plan is to forge on though the very last thing I want to do is have more government in my life, because really, not living out my dream of being a doctor would already let that government control start seeping in. Besides, black market doctor sounds pretty fun…

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  • JOBEAN
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:20pm

    Reply to Exrepublsheep:

    Why is there a “lottery” in some areas of Canada to be “chosen” to see a family doctor? From personal experience, I lived in Canada from 1991 to 2008. I had to wait from April 1995 to September 1995 to get lithotripsy to treat a kidney stone. When I started having severe joint pain in November of 2000, my family doctor told me I would have to wait unitl March 2001 to see a specialist. Only after I told him that I wanted my records to take with me to a Washington state did he pull in “some favors” and got me in within a few weeks. I was diagnosed with Lupus.

    By the way, the medical care is not “free”. Taxes are higher in Canada and we also had to pay $100 a month to the Medical Service Plan.

    By the way, the hospitals are dirty, 4 to a room, and men and women share hospital rooms. Yea, I lived it.

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    • where is JG
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:40pm

      exsheep is a paid SOROS troll sent to this site to incite and F with good hard working americans. In Fact, if it actually had a brain, it would present FACT not just regurgitated Garbage fed to him by his bosses who are bossed by KING SPOOKY DUDE.

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    • Slobaphobe
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:46pm

      The following is a true story: Canadian Health Care System diagnosed a relative with lingering cold symptoms. U.S Doc diagnosis: Lung Cancer.Our relative died in six weeks.
      Moral: Canada Kills.

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  • MIlitary Nurse
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:18pm

    Hey, anyone else notice how now that Obamacare is passsed that they are now really trying to take control of what you eat and do? This WILL happen, becasue THEY are taking care of your health, they will DEMAND that you quit smoking, drinking, eating fatty foods and so on. I have been saying this since they started debating Obamacare…SF just removed Happy meals from thier McDonalds. NY removed Trans Fat and Salt. It’s coming people…just ya watch and see.

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    • Diamondback
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:41pm

      Colorado recently imposed additional taxes on Sugar (pops, candy, sugar, etc.etc.).

      Next on the menu: hamburgers, french fries (actually didn’t NY just ban potatoes and starches in school lunches etc.), shakes, pasta, bread, ad nauseum.

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  • 5
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:11pm

    Hopefully “Soon to be former Congressman Alan Grayson” will be the only one who gets sick.

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    • Diamondback
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:39pm

      And, hopefully, he will “die quickly.”

      Hey, just quoting his own words!

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    • Fear The Voices
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 10:24pm

      He’s already sick, which brings up the question of psychological care….. Does he get meds or does he get sent to the rubber room?

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  • wildturkeywatcher
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:10pm

    If you have Multiple Sclerosis in Massachusetts and need to see a special ophthalmologist, you may already have have found that the doctor you need is GONE. The general opinion in Massachusetts is that the government wants people to see nurses – not doctors – and that specialists are not available much at all. It’s coming to all of us if Obamacare is not repealed.

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    • BRAVEHEART
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:30pm

      My question for Massachusetts is, How brain dead do the people there have to be to elect John Kerry and Barney Frank to the United States Senate? What to freak could provoke such ignorance?

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    • ErinLindsey
      Posted on November 12, 2010 at 9:50pm

      Now I know what state to not move to. I like being able to go visit my current eye doctor at the drop of a hat whenever I need to. (like this morning) I have MS and I’ll be pissed if I have to wait months to see a doctor every time I have a flare.

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  • Danglinbags
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:10pm

    I was in the hospital having my second child in Sept/2009 when the debate on Obama care was really getting going. My doctor and anesthesiologist (in their 40′s, early 50′s) both remarked that they and their doctor friends would be taking early retirement if Obama’s plans came to fruition…boy healthcare is really going to blow for everyone if we can’t get this garbage repealed.

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    • thepatriot
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:50pm

      Bags…. is that you? Did someone switch your brain?

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    • KILLACOMMIE4MOMMY
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:23pm

      Ha, you see this is how Libs start to think when it EFFECTS THEM!
      You deserve what you wanted.
      Backpeddle B1tch!!!!

      KILLACOMMIE4MOMMY  
    • 338lapua
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:33pm

      …..did I fall and hit my head??? Auntie Em, Auntie Em…..not in Kansas anymore

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    • Danglinbags
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 9:14pm

      Bwahaha. Joke’s on u cuz I was never a lib, just making fun of them the whole time. No sense of humor much (or no sense of being able to detect slight sarcasm? sorry for you)? :D

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  • swalt
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:09pm

    We can directly blame SEIU, the AFL-CIO, AFSCME, the Teachers Union, etc for Obamcare. Without their help, this bill would never have made it out of committee hearings. How many union members actually wanted this? Not many. Union members already have a VERY good medical program, but their LEADERSHIP has screwed them good. Their cadilac policies are going to go the way of the DO-DO bird. If you are a union member, want to take back your power? A little known law that ALL unions are supposed to make their members aware of is called Beck’s Law. But the unions DO NOT tell their members. Why? Keep reading.The Supreme Court’s Beck Decision Recognizes Individual Worker Rights: In 1989, the U. S. Supreme Court established what are now known as “Beck rights” in the landmark decision Communication Workers v. Beck, Beck rights dictate that workers cannot be forced under union contracts to pay any dues or fees beyond those necessary for the performance of the union’s employee representation duties. In other words, any worker who objects to his union’s use of his dues money for purposes not directly related to collective bargaining is entitled to a refund of that portion of his dues. Beck rights are a triumph of individual rights over the political weight of union leaders. Workers in labor unions DO NOT HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR UNION BOSSES POLITICAL ACTIONS. All the member needs to do is notify the union they do not want their dues used for anything other than those directly related to collective bargaining, they will get a refund of their dues money. Look here for more information: http://www.mackinac.org/article.aspx?ID=1403
    If I can get enough people to pass this around, I truly believe it will make a huge dent in the labor unions ability fund anything political. Unions were meant to represent their members, not political action committees. Get the unions OUT of politics!

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  • Lucky Strikes
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:08pm

    Hell, I knew that months ago. Its like everything else going on today with all of these companies not keeping any inventory in their warehouses, cut backs, cut backs. Small changes until its all but eliminated. They will start chopping away at the insurance companies, next will be the “uneeded” hospitals. {”because we cannot operate all these places all over the country, there is too much expense. So all of you people will have to come to the MAIN treatment centers located in you nearest major city.”} Just wait it will happen.
    But it could be nothing at all, everyone go back to what you were doing and let you goverment take care of it all, I’m sure it will be fine. ;-P

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  • TerriLPN
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:08pm

    It is already Happening in Ohio, The Only Businesses Are Health Care Related, A Franchise Tax, Thanks To Democrat Governor Ted Strickland, was imposed on Hospitals and Nursing Homes. Also, w/ObamaCare on top of The Tax….Well Why Do You Think Democrat Rep Zack Space, Voted No On ObamaCare….but Yes to Cap and Tax?? He Knew It would Destroy the Rural Hospitals!! The Ones That Need To Stay Open If Only for the Emergency Room!! Oh and We Have 4 Doctors, who work ER, and One who is an “Agency” Dr. Two are Age 70! Kind of Scary,,, huh???

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    • TRUTHSEEKINGAL
      Posted on November 12, 2010 at 5:51am

      RNMom, I am curious which state are licensed,if you don’t mind my inquiry? We nurses have a contract,union for many years,now. One may opt out, at least until card check gets pushed through.( God forbid) Personally I have little regard for the bargaining unit in nursing. IMO, the dues are increasingly onerous with inappreciable gains. I have seen many loose their empathy and core values,it becomes too much about business/labor and less ethical. Also although they aren’t technically practiding medicine,many advance practice ARNPs come very close, especially in SNF’s.

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  • hucksqr
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:06pm

    Quantity vs quality arguments really should be directed this way. With all those doctors leaving or retiring, with those hospitals that close, it’s going to leave a severe shortage of doctors and care, with a massively expanded base of insured people. Not to mention, people that do not have to pay a dime for insurance, end up using things like the emergency room for every little thing, even a headache, because what do they care? They aren’t paying for it anyways.
    This Obamacare garbage has got to go, or it will help to sink this great Country.

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    • G.W. Dobbs
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:31pm

      “Have you not heard? R.Ns. are to “practice” Medicine and to be called “Doctors”.

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    • joy2002cjm
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 11:02pm

      Not only will RNs take over “doctor care”, but they are already putting in place bulky algorithms to tell them what to do. So no one has to think, let alone do the right thing or the right treatment. The guidelines say to do …… this. Too bad if it doesnt work. Cookbook medicine is already in the works. Just look at nursing home care, mostly run by LPNs, pharmacists and “government guidelines”

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    • Rn mom
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 6:34pm

      I am an RN- and I do not practice medicine- I am licensed and registered to practice nursing. I have my own set of diagnostics (NANDA list) and treatment plans (interventions and evaluations). While doctors prescribe medicine, nurses prescribe physical interventions.Most people don‘t know about this side of nursing because it isn’t given much attention, but it is the reason why you want a real nurse at your bedside and a qualified doctor in your chart.

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  • CarolinaGirl
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:04pm

    And watch how they will dumb down the medical schools because there will be a shortage of capable, intelligent applicants. Do you honestly think that physicians will put up with their waiting rooms clogged with every Tom, Dick and Harry because they have “free” health insurance from the government? And it will end up with government insured health insurance because the private companies will not be able to continue due to sky-rocketing premiums. Buckle your seat belts …this is going to be a hell of a bumpy ride as far as healthcare is concerned.

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    • Fear The Voices
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 10:17pm

      That’s exactly what will happen. Look at the abuse with medicaid…. every sniffle or the slightest cough, I want free antibiotics! We’ll all suffer in order to accomplish an agenda of shared misery. Don’t worry though, those who are in the ruling classes will still likely have their Cadillac coverage.

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    • TennesseeConservative
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 12:10pm

      Good job all y’all for chasing away the soros zombies. Never give up, pray hard. We surround them.

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  • Uber
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:02pm

    When the treatment mandates kick in, what a doctor must do, they will quit in droves.

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  • BRAVEHEART
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:58pm

    Communism is never right regardless of the nobility of the cause you use to justify it. Stealing the power of the people in the name of Enlightened benevolent Government is inviting corruption and oppression. Americans have always invested medical and industrial innovation and production in the people and we have the best doctors and Hospitals in the History of the World. Turning that over to professional Political criminals is suicide by communism.

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  • glennrocks
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:54pm

    My elderly parents just got a letter, their insurance cost per month is going from $40 a month to $300 a month. They can’t afford this. If they don’t have insurance though they will be fined thanks to Obama care.

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    • jacobstroubles
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:07pm

      glennrocks
      sorry to hear this incredibly bad news about your elderly parents, but I think this will be the case for many elderly people. This is exaclty what they want to happen. They knew this would happen. They also know that many of them will just not pay it and go with out and thusly will become incredibly ill and probably die.

      It does sound like many Republican Goveners, will jump on the band wagon with Arizona and block this pure unadulterated piece of garbage.

      We’ll see how this week plays out at the G20, and how China and the rest of the cry babies play.
      My guess is we’ll have a huge currency war started by Friday, and Glenn’s presentation of the
      “15 day window” will be unfolding before our very eyes by next week.

      Then it wont matter too much what kind of health care coverage you, me or anybody has.

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    • theCREATORisGOD
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:50pm

      You hit that nail right on the head Jacob….
      Kind of depressing to see it written out like that so bluntly and to the point…but it’s truth, and we are all in for one rocky ride…

      God bless this country…

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  • poverty.sucks
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:54pm

    Those that remain will be gullible.

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  • ErinLindsey
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:47pm

    My dad’s an anesthetist (CRNA) I think he‘s pretty glad that he’s less than a year from retiring.

    I’m not in a medical field, but just from watching all my family members that are, they’ve all had their workloads increased about 90% and their pay reduced about 40%. So yeah, Dr. Drew is right, doctors are becoming accustomed to working for free.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:34pm

      My husband has started using the VA in Tampa and has been very impressed with the care there. In speaking to a retired physician in our town, he say that some doctors are going to work at the VA from the private sector. I wonder if your dad is observing the same thing?

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    • Rn mom
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:38pm

      I see it too. My major complaint about being a nurse is the workload. The front line caregivers are the backbone of the industry. We are expected and legally obligated to overwork ourselves and are not entitled to unionize. We don’t make anything near what a government employee makes. If the government cannot get health care right we will all need to devise a new health care system that relies on personal responsibility to pay the bills and personal responsibility for gross malpractice. We need to cut out the middle men like the government and insurance companies- why are we paying all this money for a paper pusher in an insurance company? Why are we wasting all of our health care resources for govt bureaucracy?
      Glenn really needs to take that light he’s shining on Soros and direct it at the health care industry for a while- when he’s done with Soros, of course.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 8:22pm

      RN MOM, thanks for what you do. When my children were young we had BCBS (FL) and it was a straight 80/20. That seemed to work great as best as I can remember (gett’n harder) but then they introduced HMO’s and the trouble started. If they would get rid of state lines and put a straight jacket on tort reform that would be a start and then tweak it from there. My friend supervised a hospital clinic in Dayton OH and retired when she spent more time doing paper work than helping patients. Thanks again for all you do.

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    • Rn mom
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 6:24pm

      Grandmaof5- You are welcome. It is a rough road to work in health care these days, but the patients keep me here.

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    • ErinLindsey
      Posted on November 12, 2010 at 9:40pm

      My dad is close to retiring as a Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist in a few months. I dont know if he’s noticed anything about doctors going from private practice to the VA. He’s noticed there are a lot of people becoming nurse anesthetists, and that they think it’s a job that makes you wealthy. It doesnt.

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  • thepatriot
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:46pm

    At least someone besides Glenn and Rush are saying it.

    Guys and gals please check out my blog and let me know what you think
    http://1791blog.com/

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    • CatB
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:02pm

      I have been saying it … I have been YELLING IT … I have relatives in Canada .. don’t get sick with anything serious because by the time you see a specialist all they can do is “make you comfortable”.

      REPEAL OBAMACARE!

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    • starman70
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:28pm

      Do you rmember the story of the young girl in England who developed pain in har lower leg? Her parents took her to the local doctor’s clinic (Run by the Government health care system) and they were told that it was only “Growing Pains”. Over the next several months, they took her back as the pain kept on increasing. She was prescribed mild pain medicine and again the parents were told it was just “Growing Pains”. FINALLY, after numerous visits and a broken leg, a doctor referred her to an Orthopaedic Clinic and they very quickly diagnosed the child had BONE CANCER which, if it had been treated when she first complained, could have been entirely cured. The doctors had to amputate the girl’s leg to prevent the spread of the cancer further.

      This is what we can expect from Obamacare or any form of government takeover of the healthcare system. That is why people, who can afford to, are coming here from Italy, Germany ,France, England and Canada to get the care they need. Care they can’t get at home because it was denied ornvastly delayed by their government health systems.

      America has the BEST health care system in the world. We have the best doctors, hospitals and clinics. We don’t need to gut the system. We don’t need to turn our healthcare system into a third world system.

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    • Danglinbags
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 9:21pm

      Added your blog as a favorite. Keep up the good fight. (You know I’ve been sarcastic all along, right?!?)

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 9:36pm

      Danglingbags, no, really?

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 9:41pm

      Remember when Natasha Richardson had the ski accident and was taken to a number of hospitals where she eventually died. The conventional wisdom was, if she had had the same accident in the US she would have survived.

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    • Robert W
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 3:56am

      Obama the destroyer.

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  • bry
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:45pm

    Great, now Dr. Drew will be fired. Glad he is speaking up, but the lib news casters are going to beat on him.

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  • felina g
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:44pm

    We are AMERICANS !

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  • angelcat
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:44pm

    It is clear to those of us who have brains in our heads and are not interested in the government gaining more and more power over our lives that Obamacare would result in fewer young people becoming doctors, more doctors accepting only private patients, more doctors retiring earlier, and much less access to doctors – longer waits, less treatment for those who are most “expendable”. I think it is only fair that if this awful law is ever fully implemented that those who wanted it and fought for it should go to the back of the line every time.

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    • egosumverum
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:58pm

      No. Send them to the very front of the Death Line! We could play the Twilight Zone theme song while they are told to take a pill and go home and die. Buck Ofama and the DOJ – Department Of Jihad.

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    • Fear The Voices
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 10:02pm

      Better yet, you voted for Obama, and supported obozocare, play Russian roulette, if you get an empty chamber, then you get your name on the list for an appointment six months out; then you get to play The Price Is Right to see if you win the treatment…. If you get the price right, you get the cheapest treatment available, or you may get to choose what the lovely Janice has behind door number three. Yup, now they get a crack at Let’s Make A Deal…. It could be better treatment, or it could be the dreaded “blue pill.”

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  • Country
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:43pm

    That is the plan that Obama wants in place by 2016. Remember Ezekiel Emanuel Live System Chart? “We recommend an alternative system–the complete lives system–which prioritises younger people who have not yet live a complete life and also incorporates prognosis, save the most lives, lottery, and instrumental value principles.” Repeal Obamacare or else.

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  • yeayeayea
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:42pm

    quantity vs. quality

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    • where is JG
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:34pm

      with the unconstitutional obamacare WE THE PEOPLE get neither Quality or quantity. Good Job PIGLOSI. “You gotta pass it first to see what in it.” She dont care, she is the ELITE. She can bitchslap a doc to treat her any time she wants.

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  • HouseNegro
    Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:34pm

    Don’t think you had to be a doctor to figure that out.

    SpankDaMonkey  
    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:42pm

      Canada doesn’t have a shortage of doctors. And you prove my point about racism on the right with that title you use.

      Exrepublisheep  
    • bry
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:49pm

      @exrepublicsheep..does your name prove libs are animals?

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    • thepatriot
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:50pm

      @Exrepublisheep

      Perhaps you should get sick in Canada some time and see how long you wait to see a doctor. God forbid you have anything serious wrong with you and can’t afford to come to the U.S. to get it fixed.

      You libs are all the same, you can’t learn the lessons of the past.

      http://1791blog.com/

      thepatriot  
    • red penny
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:51pm

      You’re correct and EXREPUBLISHEEP is full of crap. If Canada’s system is so damn good why do many Canadians come to the U.S. for treatment?

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    • ClockKing
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:55pm

      First off, EX, how do you know he’s not black? Second, Canada is what, one-tenth of the US population and less diverse?

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    • janddjohnson
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:57pm

      Didn’t someone die in the hospital in Canada or the UK from dehydration in 3 days and they were in the hospital?

      Deanna in Missouri  
    • untameable-kate
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 5:58pm

      What is racist about housenegro? He isn’t calling anyone anything derrogatory.
      We are not Canada, the imposition or government is not something we take kindly to. Most of us are dead set against governmet welfare, I mean healthcare. Doctors here expect to be paid for thier work.

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    • Kaen
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:03pm

      Hopefully only democrats will get sick only to see that they can’t get treated…lol…

      http://thefreeamerica.blogspot.com/

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    • 5
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:08pm

      I have 3 friends who stopped going to Nursing school and started working as Bartenders at a local Casino.
      What did Moochelle thing they were going to do?
      Work for nothing as a Nurse?
      You do Mooch!

       
    • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:23pm

      Two doctors I use are shutting down all practices by years end due to the Obama-care. They each have told me that the health care law will force private practices to work with the government under threat of civil penalties and even jailtime.

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    • Rn mom
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:24pm

      exrepulisheep- seems like you’ve been watching that propagandist Michael Moore. If you knew the truth about the Canadian Healthcare system you wouldn’t be hi-fiving it. I have family in Canada and have watched them wait months for tests, surgeries, and treatments that only take days here. The only way around that system is to pay-off someone or go to America. Canada definitely has a doctor shortage and a bed shortage or else it‘s citizens wouldn’t have to wait 6 months to get a “psoriasis” diagnosis.

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    • CatB
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:00pm

      RePEAL OBAMACARE!

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    • CatB
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:05pm

      I used to work at hospitals near the U.S. Canadian border and I can tell you Canadians come here all time for treatment that their government deems too expensive, extended wait times, all kinds of things that we take for granted here you can wait months if not years for there! We need to repeal Obamacare now! Don’t allow them to give up .. send the bill to the Senate and if by the grace of God it gets through make Obama veto it EVERY week …

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    • jncarlos007
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:25pm

      It’s all a republican plot
      There is no shortage of doctors in Canada
      It’s just that the evil right has shortened the day so all the patients can be seen by the massive physician surplus

      jncarlos007  
    • katy
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:28pm

      Exrepublisheep…
      I guess that ‘abundance’ of doctors in Cananda explains the 8 hours wait in the ER’s and the 6-12 month wait for cancer surgeries.
      so yah…that makes sense…

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    • wrs840
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:51pm

      I lived and worked in Canada for two years. Their healthcare system stinks. You can go see someone who may or may not “care”. What’s hard to get is actually “cured”. …And “housenegro” as an internet handle is far less offensive than Democrat politicians and so-called “journalists” being gross and puerile enough to routinely apply the term “*********” to a portion of the American public on prime-time TV with nobody so much as batting an eye.

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    • timelesstruths
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 8:08pm

      Sorry We do in fact have a shortage of doctors meny of are doctors went south in fact are elite still travel south for their care. Any way what we where left with was the trash and if you think sitting in a hospitol for hours waiting for care in Canadas largest largest city is any fun you will soon find out the exadus will soon begin enjoy you wait for health care and the crap that will serve you under threat…
      Your Very Truely
      timelesstruths

      PS If you thing its bad in toronto, hamilton or other GTA cities you should really travel to
      Norther-Ontario you want to talk about crap any way enjoy you new health care it wont last long..

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    • HOPEFORCHANGE
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 8:17pm

      The basic and most profound reason to repeal this socialistic nightmare legislation is simple, most of us did like the process or the bill, we spoke loudly and yet it was passed. The reason to repeal this is simply to make it right, to match the plurality of people who are frightened by it. Repeal it because it is the ethical thing to do if you truly represent the american people, a phrase they all throw around. As we learn more about this bill it has got to concern everyone. There is so much we do not know yet. We need to start over with some form of transparency. This is too big not to.

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    • ozz
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 8:45pm

      @Exrepublisheep
      You know not of what you speak. Both in the UK and Canada There are very long lines for care.
      In the UK it is way to common for them to have births in the street due to lack of hospital beds.
      Check how long the line is for a liver transplant in Canada then open your yap.
      America had by far the best health care in the world and the ******** are trying to screw it up because they want something for nothing. Just like everything else they touch.

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    • gibberish
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 8:45pm

      Hey exrepublisheep, what if housenegro is an black man poking fun at the discrimination he’s faced for being a black conservative?

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    • HouseNegro
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 9:19pm

      Tickles me to see just how many racist, bigot, PC A-Holes my name pulls out the woodwork.

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    • ConsiderThis
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 9:27pm

      To Clockking: Re: Canada is what, one-tenth of the US population and less diverse?
      I take exception the less diverse part of your sentence. Canada is a multi-cultural nation. I figure most nations are well represented here.
      But to our health care – yes there are long waiting lines because we have a one tier system. Rich and poor lineup together. However, that said, the rich sometimes find a way to jump the queue and sometimes that means going to the US.
      But, after all that – I have no choice that my tax dollars pay for abortions!
      Keep up the fight to prevent that happening in the US.

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    • snowcloud
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 9:27pm

      To those who want to compare this to Canada’s system, know this. This Obamacare is based on Cuba or the old Soviet system. Designed to control populations and to pick and choose who gets to live and die. Speak out against the government? No life-saving surgery or medication for you!

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    • Fear The Voices
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 9:52pm

      Exsheep… Canada’s system is a nightmare! I live on the border and the stories I have heard from them is more than enough to help me make my decision. And this isn‘t just people’s stories, but what also has made our local news. For example, routine childbirth being choppered in to a local US hospital. A child with a broken arm being choppered miles away to another hospital, just to have it set. I could go on too!
      For example, In comparing spinal surgery with a customer of mine, we had similar procedures, mine even being more severe than his, and what we learned from comparing our experiences was more than telling.
      First, He priced the procedure in Canada and in the US. It costs $25,000 more in his country than in the US.
      Second, His wait time to see his doctor was 16 months. Our conditions could have resulted in permanent neurological damage, including paralysis or death, if not treated in a timely manner. I had all my tests, including consultation with an additional specialist, my primary physician, surgery, a three month recovery period, and had returned to work in less than half the time he waited to just see his doctor.
      I think anyone should be able to see through the rose-colored glasses Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the other oppressors gave us and see the promises don’t hold up to actuality. Their system, while government run does not reduce costs, and the extended wait times for some conditions makes them life threatening.
      Additionally, a friend of mine’s wife has a brain tumor. In Canada most people found to have these tumors are diagnosed upon autopsy; meaning they die before they get the required tests to diagnose their illness when they were alive.

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    • psst
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 10:13pm

      Ex RepubSheep.
      One of my sons is a doctor.
      You a completely full of
      Socialized medicine can only work for a while. Before rationongs begins.
      Last year, Canada sent many heart patients to Washington State to be cared for. They have shortages of heart specialists and facilities..
      Five-six years ago around Christmas time 1/2 the hospitals in Canada was closed down.Doctors went on strike for low pay and too many hours.

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    • Blazergirl
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 10:18pm

      Yes it’s already starting. My GP will stop taking insurance as of December 1st. He will have different plans according to your needs. Of course it will be out of pocket but he will be on call 24/7 and he is going to make house calls (wow I can’t remember ever when a doctor has made house calls). The different treatment/office visit plans are running from $500 to $3000 a year. If there are going to be intensive tests needed, I will have to file/fight with my insurance company. I see a new possible trend starting with our healthcare. There is another doctor in my town who does a lacarte as well. They’re actually fairly reasonable. At least there maybe an alternative to all of this craziness.

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    • walkwithme1966
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 10:18pm

      I had a chat with my doctor about this bill and he told me that no one can predict anything yet because not everything has gone into effective – so in my opinion anyone who makes predictions about the new healthcare act is just blowing smoke and has no idea what they are talking about.
      http://maboulette.wordpress.com

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    • DeepintheHeart
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 11:16pm

      @exrepublisheep: Oh, Canada doesn’t have a shortage of doctors, huh? Why are there waiting lists to get assigned to a physician? I have family there, and I know you’re full of it. Why did it take my brother in law months to get bypass surgery in Vancouver, B.C., because there were no openings in the surgical schedule? He went from needing a stint to a 5-way bypass in less than six months. No shortage, huh? Get the facts.

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    • Neuhouser
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 12:01am

      @ EXREPULISHEEP soooo, maybe I‘m just blind and my braille computer screen isn’t working, but I can’t see how the title is racist.

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    • agree2disagree
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 12:51am

      I am a doctor and I concur – it is already happening. It will be a disaster for everyone except the few who have no idea what good healthcare is, or was.

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    • whitaker
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 1:50am

      “racism on the right” I didnt know Harry Reed was on the right, he did refer to Obama as a *****.

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    • tbone0106
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 2:03am

      There was a time — within my memory, and I’m not that old — when “*****” was the approved term for a black American. Around the time the big civil rights legislation was passed in the 1960s, it became “colored.“ Still later we had to switch to ”black.” Then, later still, it became “African American.”

      WTF?

      Why in God’s name do we have to waste our time with this sort of crap?

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    • Robert W
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 3:43am

      You libs who posted on here are so concerned with people I know that your pro-life…right?

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    • RealityCheck
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 4:32am

      After reading some comments I shall say 1 thing. Call or ask your family doctor, if you have to be admitted to the ER will he or she be allowed to come to the ER to provide treatment. The answer will be NO. You will be at the mercy of the of the on call physician until you are released. You people can argue all you want about Canada’s Health Care system, it will not change the BS we are all about to find in the 2000+ page Health Care reform.

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    • dpselfe
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 6:47am

      Hey, Exrepublisheep, What a good little Liberal Progressive you are! I’ve got a question: What if Housenegro happens to be black (insert your current politically correct term for the color of his/her skin). Can’t break the argument? Call him/her a racist! As for doctors in Canada, you must be either a politician, or some other elite “rich” person with unbridled access to medical facilities, because EVERYONE else I’ve heard from in Canada sees it in a much different way. And another thing. Are you from Canada? If so, why don’t you stick to the issues in your own damn country and leave ours to us. NAFTA doesn’t give yo uthe right to run your mouth about hte US whan you perceive us as inadequate. I have other choice words for you, but I’ll keep it civil in here.

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    • Freedomisslavery
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 6:51am

      Hey exrepublisheep,
      Of course they have plenty of doctors. Any Canadian that wants excellent health-care comes to the U.S.
      But just wait…when this disastrous monstrosity comes to pass, they’re fruitful supply of physicians may diminish.As will ours.

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 7:02am

      With 100% certainty, this is true. Obamacare will destroy our great health care system and bankrupt our country, just as our new Speaker of the House has promised. This is not political rhetoric. One of the few things the Repubs did right in the last 10 years was to vote against Obamacare. The dimwhitted Dems just don’t get it and their leaders who do get it want to destroy this country.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:03am

      And of course there is no racism on the left, right bozo?

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    • lmikow
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:35am

      to the idea that Canada has no shortage of doctors – where do you get that idea??? I’ve never heard that one.

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    • Major Infidel
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:37am

      Yeah, Canadian medicine is so great that there are actual companies here in the states that mediate U.S. healthcare for Canadians that need urgent surgeries or health services and can’t get in to their own hospitals in a reasonable amount of time.

      Thats all I needed to see to form an opinion of social medicine.

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    • 5
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:55am

      Put a picture of OBAMA on there and say
      “EVEN THE PRESIDENT CAN DIE FROM SMOKING”

      It makes Me sick thinking He is smoking where anyone else would go to jail.

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    • Promotefreedom
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:03am

      @snowcloud: You are absolutely correct. The government will slide in their eugenics program as soon as they have all the sheeple in control under Obamacare.

      Obama has already stated in one of his speeches that the elderly pose a cost issue to the government health care system. That humanitarian end-of-life counseling is needed. WTH? Just like people did not think about what exactly “fundamentally transform America” meant when he said that.

      What is even scarier is when “voluntary” vaccinations become “mandatory” free vaccinations under Obamacare (for the good of the masses of course) and the government vaccinates everyone (except government officials and people on the “favored” list) with a strain of a deadly virus that the government concocted at one of their secret military labs. Bye-bye 100 million “unnecessary, burdensome” people. Hello Marshall law and communist takeover of our land. FEMA already has the power RIGHT NOW to round up people if they deem a pandemic has broken out.

      Really hope not, but I tell you one thing – two things I will never do – Never get vaccinated and Never evacuate to “temporary emergency housing” (a military internment camp/prison).

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    • TarheelNurse
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:11am

      @ ExRepublicanSheep – you think the US health-care isn’t the best in the world? You think Canada has better health-care? Ask Natasha Richardson’s surviving family. If she’d injured her skull in close to (or I’d say right at) 100% of the entire USA (even backwoods areas) — she would have had a hospital close enough and staffed properly AND with THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT to have SAVED HER LIFE. She was unfortunate enough to have injured her head in Canada. She’s dead. Here is the link: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/29733775

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