Dramatic Vid Shows Shootout Between Cops and Suspect: ‘I’m Hit!’
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SPRINGFIELD, Ohio (AP) — It began with a sheriff’s deputy investigating a report of gunfire at a trailer park. By the time it was over, the deputy and the suspected shooter were dead, and a police officer was wounded in a gunbattle with the suspect.
“This is the worst day of my entire law enforcement career,” said Clark County Sheriff Gene Kelly, who has been sheriff for 24 years.
Deputy Suzanne Hopper was shot Saturday as she tried to photograph a footprint in the Enon Beach mobile-home park in western Ohio, Kelly said. Hopper, who was married last year and had two children, didn’t have the opportunity to return fire or take cover, he said.
Police officers were trying to talk to the shooting suspect when he fired on them from inside a trailer, and a German Township officer was wounded in an exchange of gunfire, Kelly said. There were “many, many, many” shots fired by the suspect and eight officers, he said.
The wounded officer, Jeremy Blum, was hospitalized in fair condition, a hospital supervisor said.
Authorities were still investigating and weren’t ready to say whether police gunfire killed the suspect, whose identity wasn’t released, Kelly said. It’s possible the suspect, who had “a history” with the sheriff’s office, killed himself, he said.
Enon Beach resident Angelina Inman said she looked out of her trailer at the park, which sits near a highway, to see the deputy lying on the ground. She watched as another officer tried to reach her body.
“He was itching to get her,” Inman said. “He kept radioing in, can he please get her, and he was told no because it wasn’t secure. You could see that male sheriff crying – he wanted to get her, he wanted to get her bad.”
Sgt. Dustin White had accompanied Hopper to the trailer park, which is just southwest of Springfield and about 50 miles west of Columbus, and was interviewing a family whose trailer had been shot at when he heard Hopper scream, Kelly said.
“We believed we had an active shooter, which we did, and we wanted to get her some medical attention, but we didn’t want to get anyone else shot,” the sheriff said.
Enon Beach acts as a seasonal campground with some summer-only residents and others who live there year-round. A portion of Interstate 70 was closed twice for a total of about an hour because the trailer park is so close to the roadway, Ohio State Highway Patrol Lt. Gary Lewis said.
A girl who lives in the trailer park said she knew the shooting suspect and he had a temper.
“He was a quiet person, but if you made him mad – he wasn’t very pleasant,” 15-year-old Chelsea Bagley said.
Her mother’s boyfriend, John Burkhardt, said he heard the shots fired in the neighborhood. Police then arrived, Burkhardt said, and for several minutes authorities asked the suspect over a loud speaker to come out and surrender.
“They give him 25 chances to walk out of there,” Burkhardt said. “They were begging him to come out, but he wouldn’t come out.”
Shortly after, Burkhardt said, authorities opened fire on the man’s trailer.
“All hell broke loose,” he said.
Police threw smoke grenades before storming the trailer and finding the suspect dead, Kelly said.
He said he had hired Hopper in 1999 and had known her since the police academy.
Hopper, 40, was known for her dedication to the job and adherence to keeping herself safe, Kelly said. The former officer of the year was wearing a protective vest Saturday, but it didn’t shield her from the gunfire that killed her, he said.
“If she would have known there was a suspect in that trailer she’d have never walked that way without additional units and without taking cover,” Kelly said.
Hopper once went six straight years without calling in sick and often put on charity events for the Special Olympics and other causes, Kelly said.
“Her personnel file is filled with accolades and commendations and always service before self,” he said.
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chasbronson
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 9:18pmIt is quite obvious that there is officers not worthy of the uniform.Should we be suprised?We have a president who is not worthy of his office,and congress, and supreme court justices who are unworthy of theirs.The whole of society has forsaken the supreme Law of the land by which all were created.It is by that denial of truth that all the basis for right and wrong is skewered.There are good and bad in All sectors of society.I myself and many I know of have lost a lot of respect for so called official authority.Nothing personal to anyone but once you get screwed by them enough times you tend to be more predjudiced.The victims tend to be the otherwise law abiding citizens and criminals have more rights.The justice system is in fact corrupted.Some of the good cops will attest to that.Hats off to the good officers out there because it is a thankless job that can be very frustrating when you do everything you can,apprhend the criminal,and the court system just lets them go.With one officer down I would have set out to eliminate the threat also.The video didn’t appear as if they done it gracefully though.Those rifle shots would go all the way through the trailer and hundreds of feet out the other side.Maybe they had clear backdrop though.A rifle at that distance will drill through 1/4 inch steel plate and keep going.Its probably good he’s dead .Save the taxpayers to prosecute a murderer and keep him for 25 years.So sorry for the female officer and family though.Hope she was saved.
Report Post »fenres
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 11:44pmSo what the police should ahve doen was back off aloow him to kill others and all the morons would post how cops allowed him to go onto kill more. You people are amazingly stupid
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 3:09pmUh– Fenres – That’s their job.. Until he’s shooting again. The articles says he opened fire, but from the picture of the officer going down it looks like he was moving in with a drawn weapon. The trailer looks quite shot up and the officer hasn’t even hit the ground…
They gave him ‘25 chances to come out’. Maybe they should have given him 26. Hard to imagine if the guy wasn’t shooting that nobody would drive in to get the first officer. If they didn’t have her yet – why weren’t they using the smoke grenades? A concussion grenade?
Report Post »ew
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 8:15pmso very,very sad. this Officer was actually doing what she was supposed to be doing, investigating a crime. May God bless her and her family.
Report Post »Dirty Harry
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 8:33pmSometimes when you treat every person as though they’re guilty, bad karma will smite thee when least expected. Maybe it‘s God’s way of keeping score for all the innocent victims killed when the cops chased a guy 90 mph through a neighborhood because he had a warrant for an unpaid parking ticket and didn’t want to go to jail.
Report Post »ew
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 9:04pmD H.. chasing somebody 90mph is NOT investigating, anything. PERIOD.. The depths of the police state run deep. as do the currents of curruption.. all i know for sure is that when we as a people started asking for paid protection, instead of protecting ourselves, we opened pandoras box.. Plus maybe i should have been a little more clear.. I am sad for the children and her family, a loss such as this is tragic no matter what the circumstance..
mikemanners11
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 9:28pmYes we are living in a Police State.
When a bunch of Psycho, out of control cops shoot up a peaceful sub division with HUNDREDS of bullets – the day of the Nazi’s have arrived.
Did these wonderful “Heroes” even for ONE MOMENT thought about the consequences of showering a RESIDENTIAL area with hundreds of pieces of hot lead?
What about the kids in the surrounding homes or parks?
That one Fascist copper had an M-16 and was pouring bullets like crazy all over the place.
These Cops were Reckless and insane!
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:40amJust from the 15 year olds observation we should know that their may be something wrong with the ‘perp’ Is this what we spend hundreds of billions for mental and behavioral health? Maybe the guy was undiagnosed. Maybe the cops should have hit the trailer with tear gas or a concussion grenade before shooting up the place.
Report Post »I would have dragged my partner to safety no matter “Permission”. Quite possibly the ‘perp’ would have allowed that, wanted that. Thanks to the cops that remain good cops, but i have seen far too much in the way of bad cops spoiling the apple cart. Assaulting kids who they claim assaulted them, assaulting people they harassed with no cause in the first place. Dragging people to jail and filing every charge in the book because they ‘felt’ disrespected. I’ve witnessed all of these..
Thevoice
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 7:45pmThis is so sad…Not a reason in the world for this woman to be out there as a police officer….
Report Post »Taxachusetts
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 7:44pmAll that’s written is: He had a temper…induced with drugs/alcohol maybe?
Report Post »She was beautiful and will be remembered as such. RIP DEP.Suzanne.
Get Well Wishes to Officer Jeremy.
flik221
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 7:28pmCops operate on guilty until proven innocent, that is why they have become the same as the brown shirts in my view.
Report Post »Parkeralan
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 4:56pmWTF? Why all the cop haters on this bloody website? Can’t you losers find a better place to rant where you are more at home? Like maybe some punk A$$ Aryan race site. Geez!
GET OFF MY SITE!
Report Post »flik221
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 7:23pmEvery since my 64 year old father was made to stand out in -10 below weather while the cops violated his 4th amendment right and vandalized his pickup truck against my dad’s wishes, simply because my dad had a few thousand dollars on him…I have hated cops. Doesn‘t mean I don’t have remorse, I just don’t see cops as protecting freedom anymore…
Report Post »Dirty Harry
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 8:27pmSheeple will deny this, right up until it happens to them. To cops, every person is a perp who’s guilty until proven innocent.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 9:55amI was once bitten by a dog, now I hate all dogs forever, BRILLIANT! Maybe you and Dirty Harry can start a club!
apollo18
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:27pmmikeMANNERS11, dirty harry, why don’t you pick on someone besides a cops widow? Hmmm…? When we’re done with this, you’ll have shown us your character, your integrity, what you are and hide behind your keyboard. You think you persuaded anyone? Rant and rave all you want. You sound like everyday in the jail. Am I right? Veteran of the penal system of what state? That’s no accidental hatred. That’s the hate of experience. A felon. Aren’t you Mike?
Report Post »Rights of Man
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 7:11pmThis guys was obviously out of his mind. How you can just open up on another human (one who isn’t actively trying to kill you) is beyond my comprehension.
Imagine (and expect) a similar scenario times a million, or more, if the powers that be try to confiscate guns here in the United States.
Report Post »Helldogger
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:53pmThere are many of us who are sick & tired of being constantly surrounded by cops,cops,cops & wetbacks & dope houses at the same time. The math doesn’t add up. And a few just don’t know how to deal with it rationally. Ohio is extreemly over policed & full of wetbacks & dope houses & absent blue collar jobs.
Report Post »Proud Pop
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:41pmDirty Harry; mikemanners11:
You two have issues. I grew up and dealt with abusive cops in L.A. Still come across a knuckle head or two wearing sworn to protect and defend. Every cop is not bad and every organization/neighborhood has their proverbial 10% of undesirables. While I and my family have suffered at the hands of bad law enforcement officers, countless officers have also shown my family the utmost professionalism and courtesy–sometimes when it was not warranted.
Cops do not start high-speed chases. It is the fleeing criminal. These criminals are the cause and are responsible for putting the general public in danger.
Complainng about the use of sheets is shameful. This officer has a family. The should not have to see pictures of their mom/wife/sister’s body plastered on TV and in print. Most first responders extent the same courtesy to regular folks also.
I agree with the individual who suggested we thank law enforcement officers for their service to let them know we recognize their sacrifices.
The police officers killed and wounded during this incident were not the cause that lead to the effect. Police officers see the worst our society has to offer and, unfortunately, are targets.
Report Post »uncivilized
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 9:04pmAmen, Pop.
Report Post »Pocketgeek
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 1:36amYeah. What Pop said.
Report Post »Dirty Harry
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 2:02am“Cops do not start high-speed chases. It is the fleeing criminal. These criminals are the cause and are responsible for putting the general public in danger.”
That‘s a little like saying the burglar isn’t at fault for robbing a bank, it’s the fault of the people for putting money there.
I have seen those high speed chases get way out of control, thinking surely the cops know the runner has a biological bomb or something…then that TV nitwit Bunnell goes on ad infinitum about the runner trying to murder cops everytime he bumps a cop car while trying to flee. Lo & behold the runner did nothing more than having a blinker out but panicked because he has an oustanding warrant for not paying a parking ticket.
What you’re witnessing in these responses, is the result of too many cops having abused their authority and losing the respect of the people. When you cops go out in public, often what you confuse as respect is merely fear. Behind your back they laugh at you, and they spit in your food at the drive-thru. You have earned this. Get used to it.
Stop trampling our constututional rights and you may begin to make things better for yourself. Continue to deny these truthes, and it will only get worse.
Report Post »Twaddlefree
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:32pmAnd I thought the goal of The Blaze was to report what the MSM won’t. This story joins the 100 other reports on the web, ranging from the LA Times to the New York Daily (and, of course, Fox)…sigh.
Report Post »Coonshine
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:32pmRIP Officer Hopper. Just trying to do her sometimes thankless job…..
Report Post »inferno
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:13pmIn situations like this, police should use grenade launchers instead of exposing themselves to gunfire.
Report Post »Fighting criminals who can do harm to officers and civilians, require tactics used in combat. Police make the mistake of using defensive tactics too often.
8jrts
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:07pmI’m the widow of one of these….they do it cause it’s the right thing to do…it pays squat!
Report Post »8jrts
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:23pm@mikemanners11
People like you piss me off to no end! You complain about what wasn’t done for your Aunt…did you do anything for her? Alarm system, watchdog, stay with her perhaps?? I doubt it. Guess all a criminal has to do is drive fast for that free pass in your world….wouldn’t have caught that person stealing from your Aunt if they drove away fast. You want protection but take away any tools to the job from those you ask protection from!
As for the tears that are shed, how you know anything about it….are you there next them when they get home? Do you ask how they feel or do you just guess? you guess, and you guess wrong.
Yes they do care about their fellow cops because who else will watch their backs while they are watching yours?????? Not you!!
Report Post »Time you got the facts before you spout off about things you do not know about!!
mikemanners11
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:26pm7 Killed In Police Chase In California
August 9, 2009
A police chase in Dinuba, southeast of Fresno, California ends with 7 people killed, 4 of them being innocent young children.
The California Highway Patrol says police in Dinuba were trying to stop a car Saturday afternoon for a traffic infraction when the car led them on a high speed chase through the South Valley. The car then ran a red light which and crashed into a truck that was carrying two adults and five children. The accident happened at the intersection of Avenue 424 and Road 120, near Orosi. Four of the five children were ejected and died at the scene. The other child and the adults were taken to a hospital.
Report Post »8jrts
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:44pmso every dirtbag that drives fast gets pass?? I hate to see anyone get hurt, but lets give credit where credit is due!! Who ran at high speed in the first place for what reason??? Could have been 7 hostages that got killed if kidnappers weren’t caught, but the crystal ball was out of order that day!!!
Report Post »mikemanners11
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:53pm8jrts
Wow. I really must have hit a nerve huh? Feeling guilty?
So Hypocrite….those kids that died – who cares then right? It that what you are saying?
All you can do is point to the victims? It was their fault for being in the wrong place at the wrong time? Oh well then….NO Cops died so who cares huh?
TYPICAL arrogant Cop mentality. NO matter WHAT happens it is NEVER the Police’s fault.
You are done here…you have NO argument worthy of consideration.
8jrts
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 7:12pmLike I say to begin with..your an a$$!
Report Post »8jrts
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 7:14pmPS Yes you do strike a nerve…. I am a cops widow. He protected even a$$es like you.
Report Post »mikemanners11
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 7:49pmSmile.
Yes, it is painfully obvious that you are a Cops widow with your illiterate way of communicating and 50 IQ.
I have posted several examples of Police abuse…..and you have posted nothing but curse words and your ignorance.
You loose.
Have a nice day Hypocrite.
Dirty Harry
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 8:17pmI declare Manners the winner. :-)
It begs the question, where did the flurry of rocoteting(sp?) bullets go? Bet they went somewhere, but when you hurt a fellow cop all caution is thrown to the wind.
And don’t compare cops to soldiers who truly are heroes.
Report Post »mikemanners11
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 8:42pm@ Dirty Harry
You brought out a point that NO ONE wants to admit here.
WHERE did all of those damn bullets go that those insane Cops shot all around that Trailer Park.
That one Cop had an M-16 and was shooting like he was in a fire fight in Iraq!!!!
They shot wildly like it was the OK Corral. Will that weepy Police Chief cry some more if a child is hit by those hundreds of bullets poured by these trigger happy Cops?
Where is the sense of Public Safety in the hearts of these “Heroes”???? Those hundreds of Bullets had to go SOMEWHERE!
Report Post »8jrts
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 8:49pm@ Harry……Shows your ignorance as well as arrogance too…most cops I know including my hubby, a US Marine, were also soldiers…..they protect on all accounts. I still wonder why my first ?? wasn’t answered by your buddy….what did he do for his aunt?? Seems he kept changing the subject.
Report Post »Till then I win.
mikemanners11
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 9:18pmYes, it is painfully obvious that you are a Cops widow with your illiterate way of communicating and 50 IQ.
I have posted several examples of Police abuse…..and you have posted nothing but curse words and your ignorance.
You loose.
Have a nice day Hypocrite.
Report Post »mikemanners11
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 9:18pmWHERE did all of those damn bullets go that those insane Cops shot all around that Trailer Park.
That one Cop had an M-16 and was shooting like he was in a fire fight in Iraq!!!!
They shot wildly like it was the OK Corral. Will that weepy Police Chief cry some more if a child is hit by those hundreds of bullets poured by these trigger happy Cops?
Where is the sense of Public Safety in the hearts of these “Heroes”???? Those hundreds of Bullets had to go SOMEWHERE!
Report Post »mikemanners11
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 9:20pm4 CHILDREN DEAD IN POLICE CHASE
August 9, 2009
A police chase in Dinuba, southeast of Fresno, California ends with 7 people killed, 4 of them being innocent young children.
The California Highway Patrol says police in Dinuba were trying to stop a car Saturday afternoon for a traffic infraction when the car led them on a high speed chase through the South Valley. The car then ran a red light which and crashed into a truck that was carrying two adults and five children. The accident happened at the intersection of Avenue 424 and Road 120, near Orosi. Four of the five children were ejected and died at the scene. The other child and the adults were taken to a hospital.
Report Post »mikemanners11
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 9:24pmYou still here?
Don’t you have a Welfare Check to Cash?
Funny how you ignored all of the documentation that has been posted.
What is wrong? -your GED unable to keep up to speed with Dirty Harry and me?
You may now go back to watching “16 and Pregnant” looser.
Whitefox94
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 12:36am@mikemanners11 and @Dirty Harry
Report Post »You two are sad excuses for human beings!
WAR PIGS CRAWLING
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 2:35am@8JRTS…..Bless you…you’re right on…thank you and your spouse’s service….I, like many brothers and sisters who serve, love those who appreciate liberty…give your children a hug from me. THANK YOU.
Report Post »mikemanners11
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 9:22am@WAR PIGS CRAWLING
I had to vomit when I read your words.
Are you that disgustingly crawling and fawning in real life? How pathetic.
Lets see your reaction next time you get a Ticket for going 3 miles over the limit.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:39amDear 8JRTS,
On behalf of all of the good people on the Blaze I want to thank you and your husband for the ultimate sacrafice that you have given. There is nothing that can be said to adequately convey our deep felt love and compassion. We do care and hope that peace and understanding will come in time. God Bless you Sister, God Bless.
Pay no mind or attention to the flame throwing malcontents like mikemanless and dirtball Harry, we know they are worthless scumbags. They live with the low calling of there pathetic lives and will never come close to the honor and bravery demonstrated by Men like your husband.
Sincerely – Brad
Report Post »Parkeralan
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:02pm@8Jrts – Our prayers and thanks go out to you and yours.
@ookspay – Well said My Brother. mikemanners11 and dirtyharry are despicable.
Report Post »mikemanners11
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 5:44pmFunny how Cops weep sanctimoniously at the death of one of their own…..BUT when they kill an innocent person in one of their High Speed Chases or negligently shoot someone in the line of duty they don’t shed a tear.
WHY?
Because they only CARE about fellow Cops – that is why. This mentality is called Tribalism – look it up.
My 93 year old aunt who lived on her own was being robbed by some new neighbors who moved in next to her. They would steal her SS checks and jewelery. We called a city detective about it and he just LAUGHED. My Aunt was not a Cop or a relative of a Cop so she DID NOT MATTER. Yeah…big joke huh?
Hey these “heros” get PAID well to carry a gun – that is what they signed up for. So save the tears for those innocents who pay for the price of Police arrogance.
8jrts
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:05pmYou are an A$$!!
Report Post »Dale
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:06pmI‘m sorry about your aunt’s situation, however; it is not correct to paint all police officers with such a broad brush. You find bad people everywhere. Deputy Hooper, from this report, appears to have been a dedicated, caring, and loyal officer. You do her disservice.
Report Post »Protege
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:21pmWho are you? A civilian. Why do you matter to the cops? You pay their salaries, and they have an oath to serve and protect. What could the cops do about your aunt? Under the law, not much, unless she made the report. Your aunt did not die: there are crimes that go on every moment, unpunished. The cops can only do so much: the rest is our responsibility, from raising our children properly to securing our own domains. There are ignorant cops, ignorant judges, ignorant lawyers, and ignorant posters. Thanks for reminding us of that.
Report Post »RabidPatriot
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:55pmThe reason why the officers shed a tear for their own is because the people that died are their friends. They trust each other with their lives and an uncommon bond is formed between them just like soldiers. Each incident is dynamic and all of the officers should be judged as individuals. To judge all officers for any incident that they did not have anything to do with is just irrational stupidity on your part. I can tell you have a deep seeded hatred for the police. That is your problem. See someone or take something. I bet the killer in the trailer had the same issues.
Report Post »flik221
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 7:26pmI agree. 99% of cops are power hungry egotistical psychopaths. I hope the 1% can start teaching what it means to protect liberty to these cops who don’t even understand their own oath of office. Protect and defend the constitution…and then they violate the 4th amendment ALL THE TIME. The sad thing is, they are trained to play games with people and trick them into relinquishing their rights. Screw cops…
N37BU6
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 8:20pm@MIKEMANNERS11
I hear ya. I have my share of police stories.
I think everyone here is forgetting something: Police are unionized… like any unionized body, they have good and bad members. You can’t treat all cops with respect. Some of them are dirtbags who abuse their power and union near-invincibility.
I know some awesome cops, as well as some terrible ones. And when it comes to unions, the good people are generally afraid to speak up. You don’t go against your union… your life will be made very difficult.
Report Post »uncivilized
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 9:00pmN37BU6 – once again, someone paints ALL of law enforcement with the same broad brush. All police departments are not unionized. My son in law is a police officer in a small Eastern North Carolina town, and they are not unionized. They get paid, all right – he makes just over $23,000 a year. For that, he works 12 hour shifts, two weeks on days followed by two weeks on nights. Weekends, holidays, DUI checkpoints, you name it. Not glamorous, certainly nothing he’s going to get rich doing. But he loves it – can’t imagine doing anything else. He’s a volunteer fireman in his off-duty time (what there is of it).
Report Post »So get off the “high paid union thug” soapbox.
8jrts
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 9:30pmGet yourself a dictionary and learn to spell!!
Report Post »8jrts
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 9:33pmOh…I see you still didn’t answer my question….LOSER! not “looser” Seems like liberalism at it’s best. Good night!
Report Post »mikemanners11
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 9:41pm@8jrts
What is the matter? Your Welfare check bounce?
Your 50 IQ is unable to answer ANY of the points or News items posted here about Police Abuse.
All you can do is show off your GED level intelligence by childish name calling and ignorant rants.
Care to answer any of our points?
Report Post »Michael
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 4:39amSo you blame the cops for the accident outside of Dinuba, CA? The carjacker stole the car and the vehicle that was hit by the carjacker had 5 kids inside none wearing a seat belt, which is against the law in California. It must be the cops fault. I have personally responded to dozens of accidents in the fog out that direction when I was a firefighter (before I finished my degree in Computer Science). So I too was a public servant after getting out of the military. The fact that you say all cops have low IQ’s is a sad display of how ignorant you are. Yes there is a police state in this country taking over, but not all cops are bad guys. In fact most are really good kindhearted people who are willing to die to keep you safe. With all the gang issues in that area of California, and people dying every week from violence, the fact that you bring up an accident is even more telling of your inability to understand the reality of the world we live in. Obviously you have never been shot at. It is not easy to use restraint when bullets are flying. God Bless you
Report Post »Dirty Harry
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:04am@ Michael,
I’d rather deal with 30 gangbangers than a single dirty cop. At least with the gangbangers you kinda know where you stand going in. With a cop you never know, maybe he just learned a knew choke technique he’s been itching to try out. With a gangbanger I get to fight back – fight back against a dirty cop and you very likely pay a heavy price.
I hope you‘re learning through these posts that it isn’t just disgruntled arrestees who distrust cops. It is increasingly the domain of educated law biding citizens who have had their eyes opened and see the degradation of our constitutional rights.
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:22am@UNCIVILIZED:
“once again, someone paints ALL of law enforcement with the same broad brush”
1) Saying “some cops are bad” is not doing that.
2) You don’t need to be unionized to have dirtbags.
Cops are humans. End of story.
So much passion here, and very little logic…
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:37am@UNCIVILIZED:
“So get off the ‘high paid union thug’ soapbox.”
This made me laugh… it’s so unnecessarily over the top when compared to what I said. I don’t even recall mentioning pay, either. That was just your typical knee-jerk defense as the parent of a cop. Set the emotion aside when making an argument. Or at least learn to work through it.
Now everyone who isn’t unionized is squeaky clean, just because of your son? What I said doesn’t apply anymore? That humans are humans? I suppose if your son was a grocery ****** you’d be up in arms if I said “not all bag boys are good people”.
Some people on this site crack me up. I think the average IQ is in the 80s. Raw emotion, no logic… there is a balance, you know. Find it.
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 3:46pm“So get off the “high paid union thug” soapbox.”
This made me laugh… such an unnecessary amount of passion when compared to what I said. Bizarre. I didn’t even mention pay, either. That argument was produced entirely by you.
You’re just emotionally biased, and unable to set it aside and work through it. Overly defensive, and seeing arguments where there are none. If your son was a janitor, you’d probably be defending them as a group too.
I understand you‘re proud of your son and don’t question authority as a result, but calm down. Nobody is attacking him… you’re probably embarrassing him to no end though.
Report Post »apollo18
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:05pmChances are, you are in the lower half of the American social class so you probably DO NOT pay any cop’s salary. Cops keep to themselves because they know most people have no more idea what cops go through, than the guy on the plane with the most frequent flyer miles deserves a vote on how to fly the plane. That goes for doctors, lawyers, politicians, THE MILITARY, priests, Boy Scouts and Govenor Palin. The public, people like you, assume they can extrapolate their experiences to blame the next poor unsuspecting soul for their misery and feel justified for whatever they do or say. Just like the guy in the trailer. We train for that. Some times we’re wrong. We learn to make honest apologies. We put our careers on the line for the violent threats as well as the social mistakes. The best investments municipalities make is a cops pension. Most don’t enjoy very much of it. As far as how we grieve, I could not care less what you think. I doubt you ever do.
Report Post »fenres
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 11:42pmHe is actually an idiot moron. A total classes piece of garbage.
Report Post »WAR PIGS CRAWLING
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 5:25pmTo all the tards responding to previous post about why I carry 46 rounds on my person…….this is why.
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 5:46pmTo shoot cops? Someone using the word “tards” likely shouldn’t be trusted with a firearm. Yep, you’re a REAL hard-ass…. Don’t expect to be taken seriously when you present as a child.
Report Post »WAR PIGS CRAWLING
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:09pm@Gooch…you are correct…. that was inappropriate wording and I should apologize. The video stirred an emotion and I should have chosen my words better.
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 8:08pmFair enough. You don’t need my approval, but you seldom see these forums bring out the best in people. I always hope I can check myself by being reminded, “Therefore but by the Grace of God go I.” I think I’m gonna end tonight by going out on a positive not. It takes a man to stand up and own his wrongs. Hope this finds you well.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 5:15pmOur thoughts and prayers for this family. These dirty rotten scums are protected more then our law enforcement, military who put their lives on the line each and every day. barry boy opened the doors of lawlessness, disrespect, dishonesty the day he was sworn in and seems we have been on a downward spiral ever since.
Report Post »LadyIzShy
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 5:15pmmy thoughts and prayers to the officers family and ALL the officers . They all have suffered a great lose
Report Post »AZBabe
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 5:04pmThoughts and prayers go out to her family and may God watch over and protect her children as they go through life without their mother.
If these people were in jail where they belong, tragedies like this wouldn’t happen. The Sheriff said the suspect had a history with his office. Lay this at the feet of the liberal judges.
Report Post »Devil Dog 7175
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 4:53pmGod rest you Dept. Hopper, and watch over your family now.Thank you for your sacrifice.
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 4:48pmMakes your blood boil, doesn’t it?
Report Post »critterbait
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 4:45pm2 people dead and for what ????? I Pray for both family’s and the loss. God help us we are living in trouble times with more to come I fear ..
Report Post »Dustoff
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 5:34pmOdd answer. This fool took her life, for what?
Report Post »8jrts
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 4:35pmMy heart goes out to the family of Officer Hopper. She was a brave person as is Officer Blum. These people put their lives on the line every day for the rest of us, and in doing so their families lives are on the line as well. Thank the next officer you see.
Report Post »Cdmfl
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:44amCry me a river!
BurntHills
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 4:32pmheartbreaking.
Report Post »GEW
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 4:27pmThis makes me cry. May God hold and protect her family in this time.
Report Post »TheAmericanRifleman
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 2:19pmMe too. Amen
Report Post »TheDHndrsn
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 4:25pmJust plain wrong. Not a good way to start the New Year.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 5:01pmThe men and women who put their lives on the line each day just don’t get enough credit by the public unless there is a tragedy such as this. Thanks to our dedicated police officers, fire fighters and service men and women everywhere. God bless and stay safe. Prayers for Ms Hopper’s family, extended family and friends
Report Post »Dirty Harry
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 5:30pmWhile tragic, it shows how cops see themselves as a level above the average cityizen. Don‘t ever remember seeing the sheet blocking view of an average joe who’d been shot.
Protege
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:14pmDirtyHarry:
Pray. Pray hard. Pray that you never need a cop to come to your aid. We cover the bodies of the fallen officers out of respect for the service they have rendered. Also, I have seen the “sheet wall” applied for civilians. Maybe you need to get out more, perhaps?
Also, not sure what kind of hate you need to expunge from your system: busted by a cop for something embarrassing? Wife left you for a cop? Something like this? Doesn’t matter: there are those who understand respect and dignity, and then there’s you. Be intelligent, no matter your opinions, or be a liberal.
Report Post »Dirty Harry
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:38pmDear Protoge, typical egotistical coppy answer. Everyone who has a negative opinion must be a disgruntled criminal. Typical. Your juvenile response goes to the image problem cops have – your ranks are generally filled with below averag IQ’d adrenelin junkies.
Trust me when I say that I’ve gone to great lengths not to need the assistance of cops in all but the remotest of scenarios. As the saying goes, call 911 and the cops show up in time to call the coroner. No thanks, I’ll handle it myself.
I can remember when law enforcement was a more noble profession.
RAISINGCONSERVATIVES
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:41pm@ Dirty Harry
Report Post »Let me tell you something as a wife of a police officer out here in Ohio…
The cops out here ARE a step above the average “cityizen”. Most of the departments in the small communities only have a few paid positions and the rest of them are “auxillary” police. Which means that they will put themselves on the line for FREE to keep you average “cityizens” safe. They do that because they are dedicated to what they believe in and the life that they have chosen as police officers. A lot of training and equipment cost goes into becoming a police officer. Mostly small departments are all that is available around here and in order to keep their commission as police officers they will join a small department so all of their training doesn’t go to waste. They are committed to keeping you safe, so that the next time you feel the need to criticize someone ask yourself when was the last time you put your pants on, stepped out from behind the safety of your computer, and put your butt on the line for anyone…for FREE???
8jrts
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:51pm@ RaisingConservatives God Bless you! I pray for the others like Harry and Manners who just don’t get it, and hope they can “do it themselves” and don’t need a cop….they don’t deserve their help.
Report Post »Dirty Harry
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 6:57pmRaisen, congrats, you found a typo.
My experiemnce is 50% of LEOs are good, and the other 50% are pretty much useless. I’ve bee privileged enough to be the recipient of the special treatment cops give those on “the inside.” Their friends and associates. The thin blue line exists and it is pure BS.
Cops all too often confuse comradere with right and wrong. Seen it myself, many times. And no, not from the perspective of a criminal, but from your side.
Work on cleaning up your image rather than summarily labelling everyone who criticizes cops as not knowing what they’re talking about.
Dirty Harry
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 7:03pmCops will get more respect when they stop creating tactics intended to allow them to beat the perp, such as them being trained to constantly chant “Sir, stop resisting,” when the perp is totally out of it. They will get more respect when they stop trampling 4th Amendment rights by calling their search of the perp’s car as “inventory” when it does not qualify under “incidental to arrest.”
These abuses happen regularly, and it is ruining what was once a fine, respectful profession.
Report Post »mtnclimberjim
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 7:31pmThey were way to close. Should have moved back and got behind something. That dude that got shot was stupid. Glad he’s OK
Report Post »PatriotDave
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 10:36pm@Dirty Harry,
I’ll tell you the same thing I tell anyone in your position. Take the pych exam, pass the physical and make this a more professional and noble profession. Otherwise, let this slain officer rest in peace. You (I assume) did not know her personally, so “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” or just keep your disrespectful comments to yourself.
Report Post »Creestof
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 11:33pmArticle states the shooter had a history with law enforcement…too bad that with all the technology these days they don’t get alerts warning them of badguys living at or near the address they are calling on.
Report Post »Creestof
Posted on January 2, 2011 at 11:41pmIt is amazing this was not more tragic, I have never used propane before, but I’m guessing that one hit on those several visible tanks would have caused a nasty fireball.
Report Post »ozz
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 1:05amHave to side with Dirty Harry on this one. As a kid I was pretty shocked the first time I saw a police officer lie. I remember thinking to my self ” aren’t they supposed to be the good guys.” Wish I could trust them. Nowadays I just don’t. I have seen them break the law and trample the constitution with my own eyes just too many times. I think treating traffic stops as fishing expeditions has gone a long way to erode public trust. I blame the law makers far more than them though. I am sure if the nature of their job changed a bit it would be allot easier to wear the white hat once again. I pray for that day, as I will pray for the fallen’s family. The odds are she was a good cop.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 9:51amDirty Harry,
I will not be so kind as some who have responded to your bitter and offensive comments. As I’m sure you have been told many times in your life, you are a real piece of shiite! You demean those who stand between us and aholes like you. I just pray that when you finnaly succumb to your anger and rage for being a complete and total failure in life that you just put your gun in your mouth and pull! You are a Frickin Loser, get off this web site, you polute the air here just like everywhere you go, we hate you and want you gone!
Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:27amRaging conservative… To correct the record – most “auxiliary” deputies get paid on the other end as licensed to carry rent-a-cops. $80-$100 hr at events.
Go out to the boonies and you will hear stories like the “deputy” driving wild through town in a mock chase, winding up behind the high school where witness watch him pelt his car in a “shootout”. The “sheriff” who went to his makeshift training range, only to receive a 911 call that someone was shooting at my house, through the trees. The crazy lesbian ‘deputy’ who gets knocked out by a female she propositioned during a house call.. The deputy who thought the McDonalds was being robbed because he saw some kids run out, whereby the store was quickly surrounded by shotguns…. It’s a long list -
Report Post »*************************
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 4:00pmNext time, pay that $2 parking ticket fine! And thank you for your help in crime prevention!
My work here is done. I’m needed elsewhere now. I’m needed wherever outlaws rule The West, wherever innocent women and children are afraid to walk the streets, wherever a man cannot live in simple dignity, wherever a people cry out for justice.” -sheriff Bart, Blazing Saddles
Report Post »Dirty Harry
Posted on January 8, 2011 at 2:05pmPatriotdave, first off, I’m not interested much in you telling me when to talk and when to not talk. Got it?!
Secondly, I don’t have the right temperment to be a cop. I readily admit that – I like adrenelin rushes and I strongly dislike criminals. Not a good combo for a cop, no? Trouble is, 50% of cops have the same mindset.
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