‘Eagle Dad’: Vid of Father Forcing 4-Year-Old Son to Run ‘Naked’ Outside Sparks Outrage
- Posted on February 8, 2012 at 1:39pm by
Madeleine Morgenstern
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The video of a four-year-old Chinese boy being forced by his parents to run nearly naked through the snow in frigid New York has caused an uproar, but the child’s father said he was only trying to train his son to be strong.
The video shows the little boy, wearing only shoes and underpants in the thick snow, shivering and crying as he runs toward his father, pleading to be picked up. Both of his parents are heard coaching the child to lie down in the snow, which he eventually does while in tears. The video, filmed while the family was in New York on vacation, was posted on a Chinese video-sharing site and has since spread around the Internet.
He Liesheng, who runs a bed linen company in Nanjing, told the AFP news agency his son “agreed to go out to run in the snow naked or else it wouldn’t be possible for me to take his clothes off.”
“He wasn’t very happy when he felt the cold,” He added.
According to AFP, the boy was born two months premature with several health problems, prompting his father to embark on a strict training regimen. He claims he’s also taught his son Kung Fu, dancing, cycling and mountain climbing and has earned the nickname “Eagle Dad” for his efforts — a reference to eagles who drop their young off a cliff, forcing them to use their wings for the first time and learn to fly.
It’s unclear who actually posted the video online, with He‘s assistant telling AFP the father only sent the footage to a few friends but didn’t upload it to any websites himself.
The assistant also said the boy ran for half an hour beforehand to warm up:
According to the Telegraph, the video has received tens of thousands of hits on various websites and reaction has been strong.
“I don’t agree with this…We should give children a happy childhood, those terrible parents say they do this for their child’s own good, but I think their purpose is just to be able to brag in the future,” one online user wrote upon watching the video.
Another questioned the role of the boy’s mother, who is also featured in the video: “I really don’t support this, poor kid, does the kid’s mother let the father do whatever he wants to do?”
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Comments (144)
Lion420
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:37pmMy son is about the same size/age. He wouldn’t need to be forced to do anything naked, wheter it was freezing and snow is involved or not. Anyone with a problem with this, needs to get over themselves and suck it up! You’re pathetic.
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:45pmSecond that.. The saddest part of this video is the PC wussiness in the comments. Second worst is the Chinese are now finding out how weak and feeble we have become..
Report Post »Jive Mickey
Posted on February 9, 2012 at 6:10pmThis is what they call training – Toughen you up GrassHoppa. I am sure the parent meant his child no harm. Guess he doesn’t want his son to grow up an Americanized sissy. When he grows up, he will not only be able to survive and kick your butt as well, whatever is necessary. No wonder these people are kicking our a$$e$ and eating our lunch.
Report Post »ColorMeRedd
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:18amI don’t have a problem with him doing this. It’s his son, and if he wants to toughen him with extreme measures, that’s his deal. The child never seemed to be in danger, and you can even see the boy cracking a smile here and there, which I take as this was something he was up for, and was not having as horrible a time as the article would suggest. I just don’t know why you would record it. That makes it seem like the video is some sort of trophy. Maybe the boy himself wanted it to be recorded. Either way, it is none of my business what these parents do with their child, as long as he is not in danger, and he was not. Granted we were older that four, put we used to swim in ponds during the winter with snow on the ground. We did that just to say we could and we did. Good for you little boy. I bet you are tougher than a good percentage of the four year olds we have in this country.
Report Post »AndiAndiAndi
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:32pmWho was the Bozo that walked right by the kid being video taped? Seriously? Did anybody else notice that? The guy/girl didn’t even turn around!
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 4:15pmPeople, first that is not child abuse. Kids get beaten every day behind close doors and abused beyond belief. Chinese people have a different form of raising their children. They come from a different culture. One that doesn‘t cater to the child’s every cry and whimper. I doubt the kid was out there longer than 2 minutes. If it teaches the boy to respect what he really has compared to taking everything for granted. Then I see it as a valuable lesson earned. Maybe he won’t be one of those OWSholes looking for a handout from all your parents that spoil the hell out of your kid and teach them no morals or values.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 5:12pmUmm………child abuse?
Report Post »1PORattler
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 7:12pmI have to agree with Texas Hunter on this and if the gossipy buttinsky people of our nation don;t stop “reacting” every time they see something without knowing all the facts, this nation is doomed… Starting to sound like a nation chock full of emasculated metrosexuals any more
Report Post »goldmind
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 7:52pmSuperb training exercise. He can probably whip half the kids in this country, twice or even three times his age. Obese, wimpy, spoiled, undisciplined and clueless, have many of our children become. I was throwing my kids into waves when they could barely walk…now they all swim expertly, and have healthy attitudes and self esteem. If we could exile the whiners in this country, most of our problems would also disappear.
Report Post »SERUM
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 8:08pmParents should have led by example…
Report Post »4areason
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 9:37pmNot child abuse. Let parents do their job. We are all too soft anymore, self included. One minute we‘re complaining parents aren’t involved or setting expectations high; the next we are complaining they are abusing the kids. Leave them alone unless there is a clear and present DANGER.
Report Post »4xeverything
Posted on February 9, 2012 at 3:51amWhere are all of the now grown-ups who had to walk 5 miles to school up hill both ways in a blizzard at 3am? We are to soft these days. For anyone who believes this is child abuse…you’re an idiot.
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on February 9, 2012 at 6:08amChild Abuse? Didn’t any of these whiners watch The 300? Oh, that’s right, liberals want wimps, not warriors. Child abuse is making them eat tofu and stuff, not this. Ooops, I was back on the wimps issue. If this were child abuse, they’d be pulling all children out of everywhee north of the Mason-Dixon.
Report Post »David286 - FL
Posted on February 9, 2012 at 10:33am@TEXASHUNTER – Agreed…it’s the pampering of kids every little whimper that leads to OWS and a weakened nation. This is not child abuse…there is a HUGE difference between beating the crap out of a child for no reason and a spanking or teaching your child a tough lesson.
Report Post »Mikev5
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:11pmI’m sorry but I agree with the Dad we as Americans spoil our kids to death I’m shocked by the amount of toys parents give their kids now their bedrooms are more like a toy factory than a bedroom this removes kids need to learn new things every day I was unlucky or LUCKY as a kid we had no money to spoil/waste on me as a kid we had to improvise and make our own toys thus learning something useful and intelligent for my future.
I was also lucky in that my parents tough me and my brothers how to survive in the desert and what to look out for were let to hike on our own for many hours without being supervised or watched by an adult for years and I was only 8 or 9 at that time my brother was 3 years younger than me and he went with us on most long hikes believe me we went for very long hikes way away from civilization.
I do think that was a little over the top though running in the snow like that.
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:21pmThe father (?) should seek help … cruel and abusive
“A child lives what he learns”
Report Post »Ratcraft
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:27pmYou obviously don’t have kids moron. Any man doing this to his own blood is no man. My sons will whoop the smell out of anyone, they learned to be tough the real way. HARD WORK. NOT FREEZING YOUR BALLS OF IN THE SNOW!!
Report Post »Mikev5
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:44pmRatcraft
Did you even read the article or even look at the vid if you did you wouldn’t be saying such things all kids will play in the snow on their own they don’t need pushing in any way you are way over reacting to this.
There are Americans all over America urging their kids to play in very dangerous sports way more dangerous sports than just running in the snow so lay off the dramatics.
Report Post »Melika
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:46pmBut he didn’t teach you anything about punctuation, organization of thought, or coherent sentence structure. There is a reason why written language has common rules like punctuation. Too bad, your point might have been well taken but for that.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:47pmMIKEV5…….I agree with you. When I think back to all the things we were made to do, like hard work, and the things we were allowed to do, like roam the woods for hours unattended, I smile.
Report Post »Of course that was before the words outraged and offended were used as weapons by everyone over everything.
JediKnight
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 4:14pmAll the toys they have now? This isn’t any different from when I was growing up. I had plenty of toys growing up (37 years old now) and it always seemed like everyone else had more. My kids have plenty (mostly from birthdays and christmas) but it always seems like the other kids still have more (not that I care).
We didn‘t go on long hikes or wander around in the woods simply because we didn’t have “woods” or places nearby to go on long hikes. We were allowed to wander the neighborhood pretty freely though (couldn’t cross major streets, so that kept us nearby).
That said, I agree that this is a little over the top. Give the kid a couple more years and then he’ll be ready to suffer through something like this. He’s more likely to catch a bad cold from this than he is to “learn” from it.
Report Post »Mikev5
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 4:51pmJediKnight
You are still a young kid I’m 56 and I can tell you most kids my age didn’t have a boatload of toys like now.
My parents didn’t use toys as a way to teach me or shut me up when I was in a bad mood as most kids can be, be a strong parent and say NO when kids cry and scream don’t get them used to getting a toy every time they misbehave all that teaches them is if I cry I get a toy.
Report Post »barnsy
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 7:48pm@Mikev5 Spot on! I totally agree ,the past 30 years or so we’ve been raising generations of spoiled,self entitled,little brats. In general the kids today are stupid,lazy and soft( both physically and emotionally). Political correctness has turned our kids into a bunch of wimps.The liberal agenda in the public schools have dumbed them down.The pop culture has convinced them they should get what they want, when they want it, without working for it. All this is on perfect display with the Occupy loosers.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on February 9, 2012 at 7:13amThe father said he warmed up first. Unless he has a heart condition, it won’t hurt him. Premature kids start out a bit weaker, so by toughening him up, he’s helping him. It didn’t say he forced him to live in the cold. What about the welfare parents who drive expensive cars, have cell phones, and their kids are raising themselves and the only “stuff” they get is what they steal because momma doesn’t want to spend HER money on the kids.
Report Post »Msgt Ret
Posted on February 9, 2012 at 8:15am@ratcraft: HARD WORK. NOT FREEZING YOUR BALLS OF IN THE SNOW!! Obviously you were raised in the south!
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on February 9, 2012 at 10:41am@mikev5, i agree with you. just watched the video, the kid was smiling. my 4 yr old girl threw a bigger fit the other day when i told her that she could not have a second ice cream sandwich. when my brother and i where young we spent hours out of my parents site, once we flooded the back woods by building a dam. dad was not happy , we never found my brothers eyeglasses and my mom had muddy clothes to wash. maybe they should have bought us toys.
Report Post »SFsuper49er
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:00pmMy opinion is that this stuff shouldn’t even be online. So people can judge others! Technology will ruin us. Were walking zombies now. I only have magic jack with voice mail. With money saved not having cell phone pays my cable bill.
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:11pmThis is child abuse. He should be taken from his parents.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:17pmWhat China was this done in? Was it the Eastern Chinese province of the USA. I think that kid was cursing Americans while running in the snow. He was swearing to get even one day.
Report Post »Mikev5
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:30pm@ Faith1029
You think that’s child abuse what about all the moms that dress their kids up as adults and put them in those shows for awards I think that’s child abuse in my eyes.
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 5:47pmMIKEV5: “You think that’s child abuse what about all the moms that dress their kids up as adults and put them in those shows for awards I think that’s child abuse in my eyes.”
Yes I agree. That is also child abuse. It’s time someone stands up for these poor innocent children.
Report Post »MS Patriot
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 10:17pmIf this is child abuse then every parent who signs their child up to play football, baseball or basketball should be arrested for child abuse. Oh, don’t forget those who wrestle at ages as young as 4 years old.
There are far more dangers that children are unaware of in sports than there is in this child running around in the cold or lying in the snow. Was it uncomfortable yes. Was it tolerable yes. Did the child receive any permanent harm from this, no. When faced with challenges in your life, if you have not learned how to handle the difficult hard to do things how will you respond when faced with devastation, such as a job loss, death of a relative or even a life or death situation. Will you just lie there and cry? Will you just give up altogether or will you have the intestinal fortitude to overcome trying times without letting your life fall apart with drugs and alcohol.
If your child jumps up and down and cries at the store because you don’t buy the child chewing gum, is that child abuse. I have seen children act out more in the supermarket than this child was acting out and they never suffered any long term affects of being told no.
This is why and how we have raised a generation of Americans who are lazy and believe they are owed things and they don’t have to work for a living. A whole generation of people waiting on a hand out or waiting for a check to come in the mail from those who do go out and do the hard things, like go to work everyday.
Report Post »karenm
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:55pmThe parents must not be too smart if this is the only way to teach their kid. I hate idiot parents.
Report Post »RinkyDink34
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:08pmAt least the Chinese don’t teach there kids to blow themselves up :(
Report Post »momrules
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:27pmI had polio at age three that severely affected my arm. We were farm kids and my Mama made me do everything my siblings had to do even though it might take me longer or I had to figure out a new way of doing the same things they were doing.
For example I remember having to draw water from the well with a bucket and I would pull the rope down with my good arm and step on it then do it all over again until the bucket was up. Mama told me at one time about how watching me struggle almost killed her but she wanted me to be independent and strong.
Mama was smart but in todays world she might have been labeled a child abuser.
Report Post »Mannamomof4
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 7:59pm@Momrules: I love your story. I am the mother of a 7 year old boy with such severe brain damage that he statistically should be a vegetable. But through educating myself, dedication to him, and hard work on his part, he is able to communicate with us. He can pick which music he wants to listen to, what he wants to eat, and where he wants to spend his time. It is hard sometimes when he struggles with new tasks, but the joy on his face when he ends up mastering that skill is priceless. I don‘t necessarily see the point of this father’s lesson, but we must be careful about rushing to judge anyone without full knowledge of the situation.
Report Post »Komponist-ZAH
Posted on February 9, 2012 at 3:16amThey weren’t too smart to film it.
Report Post »In a Bunker
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:54pmThis is a perfect example of why they are taking over. They know we’re wimps and so many parents here have spoiled their children to grow up to be selfish brats.
Report Post »CCulotta
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 5:47pmI completely agree with you. Americans have adopted this mentality that children are these little Faberge eggs that will shatter if they are pushed out of their comfort zone for a second or two. Most of these comments prove my point.
Its sad to think that we were the people who packed up everything (including our children) and headed west in covered wagons through all sorts of misery, and now we want a man punished because he made his child (who probably reads, writes, and does math better than 99% of American children) dance in the snow in shoes and underwear for 30 seconds.
The toughest kids I have ever seen were in Iraq. We were on a dismounted patrol through a neighborhood and I was pulling rear security. All the local kids were following us while dancing and singing. I kept motioning them to be quite but it wasn’t working. Then a man came busting out of a shop with a large stick and started indiscriminately clobbering these kids. I looked like the opening scene of the lord of the rings. Kids were flying everywhere. One of the last kids to run off was this little girl who was around 6 years old. The man bashed her with the stick while she ran off and the look on her face was more of a pissed off look than a pain look. After all the kids were gone the guy gave me the thumbs up and with my jaw on the floor I gave him the thumbs up back. Not 5 seconds after the man when back into his shop all the kids came right back, Including the little girl.
Report Post »CCulotta
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 5:48pmI completely agree with you. Americans have adopted this mentality that children are these little Faberge eggs that will shatter if they are pushed out of their comfort zone for a second or two. Most of these comments prove my point.
Its sad to think that we were the people who packed up everything (including our children) and headed west in covered wagons through all sorts of misery, and now we want a man punished because he made his child (who probably reads, writes, and does math better than 99% of American children) dance in the snow in shoes and underwear for 30 seconds.
The toughest kids I have ever seen were in Iraq. We were on a dismounted patrol through a neighborhood and I was pulling rear security. All the local kids were following us while dancing and singing. I kept motioning them to be quite but it wasn’t working. Then a man came busting out of a shop with a large stick and started indiscriminately clobbering these kids. I looked like the opening scene of the lord of the rings. Kids were flying everywhere. One of the last kids to run off was this little girl who was around 6 years old. The man bashed her with the stick while she ran off and the look on her face was more of a pissed off look than a pain look. After all the kids were gone the guy gave me the thumbs up and with my jaw on the floor I gave him the thumbs up back. Not 5 seconds after the man went back into his shop all the kids came right back, Including the little girl.
Report Post »flavsngrace
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:16pmI absolutely agree. The child was uncomfortable; but he suffered no injury. He was not beaten or locked in a closet. It was a lesson to toughen up. This is why their children might end up being more succesful than ours. Jus’ sayin.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on February 9, 2012 at 5:02ama 4 yr old?
Report Post »You teach a 4 year old to toughen up??
There’s better ways to teach a 4 year old.
You “toughen” up 12 year old boys, not 4 year olds.
RinkyDink34
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:46pmConfusious Says little boy run around in snow get frozen ass
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:45pmThat’s the final straw Monkey, CNN is going to suspend you now.
Report Post »romadave
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:44pmThis guy‘s Chinese friends back home name him ’Eagle Dad‘ and he’s proud of the title.
The American readers think it is awful and cruel.
No wonder they will own us all. Think this kid will have any pity on us when he grows up to take part in Total Unrestricted Warfare?
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:13pmSo are you suggesting we all treat our children badly in order to make them strong and uncaring?
Report Post »romadave
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 5:37pmDefine treating badly.
I’m probably not going to make my 6 year old run in the snow in his undies. But I might enroll him in karate and work with him on situps and pushups to strengthen his mind and his body. He might complain about some sore abs.
Maybe 4 years old is a little young for the snow run. But under controlled conditions, pain is not the same thing as abuse.
Some of the hard core karate parents help their older children rub sticks and such on their shins so when they are sparing they feel less pain and can keep going. But at the time, the exercises hurt a little.
So, do I think extinguishing a cigarette on this kid’s forehead would be a great way to make him stronger, hell no. But making the kid experience the cold to become tough to it? I guess it depends on if they warmed him up and fixed him cocoa afterward.
The point is, are we willing to ask more from our kids than the current PC, lawsuit happy school system says we should?
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 8:20pmI don’t see how you can compare an exercise like karate to what was done to this kid. What did this kid gain by being out in the cold? This isn’t going to benefit him in any way… In my opinion, this isn’t too much different than making him walk over hot coals in order to get used to heat.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 10:50pmI bet the little tike sure appreciates clothing now.
At first, I thought- what on earth is the lesson here, for anyone, let alone a toddler. But, then I recalled one of the lessons my father taught me as a kid. Physical pain can lead to positive characteristics. It was painful for me to walk 6-miles to work (even in the snow or rain). I’d be so tired; I didn’t want to work after arriving. But- you develop a sense of determination and resolve. My parents could barely afford the one car that mom had to use to go to work. I got my DL when I was 16, but didn’t officially start to drive until I was 22. That is why I appreciate everything I have, and don’t expect to be provided anything. I don’t know about you, but I was not born with any type of guarantee that my life would be completely devoid of pain, stress, disappointment, sadness, heartbreak, humiliation, or unfairness. I learned to accept the fact that no matter what, life is painful, sometimes unfair and that I was responsible for myself. And further, I NEVER GIVE UP!
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:23pmBOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?-
That is a ridiculous “lesson” to teach a child of his age.
For everyone that supports this, is there a certain point that this becomes child abuse? A certain temperature, or a certain amount of time? Or is it all fine as long as the parents are there?
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:43pmIt is Cultural.Not as bad as Genital mutilation,which is allowed by law.Besides,He is only trying to help out Al Gore by running around half naked and pretending Global Warming made all that snow.I used to get in trouble for running around like that in snow.
Report Post »Briggston
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:42pmA Little divided on this one. How about we let parents be parents. If this child was forced outside ALONE I might agree with the child abuse advocates. However, the parent is not neglectful and is there watching over the kid to make certain he is OK. I have a lot of problem with people who start passing judgement on other peoples parenting techniques.First of all its not YOUR DANG Child. And what might work for your child doesn’t work for others. Your discipline methods ( Or lack thereof) might be fine for your child yet useless on another child.Its true parents can take advice from others but I believe they know in the end what best works or understands their child. One example I remember from my college town is a teenager stole from the store and was hanging out with loser kids. His parents as part of his punishment had him sit for a whole day on the street corner with a big sign on his chest saying ” I robbed (Store Name) and am a miserable thief honk if you agree”. This youths parents sat out with him on that street all day and some idiot called CPS on them saying it was child abuse and psychologically damaging the the child. When the cops showed up the parents explained (and later to the judge) that we would rather him and us be humiliated for one day and correct his behavior rather than have him go to jail. They won the case and the son stopped hanging out with the dirt bags and never stole again. Let the Parent be the Parent as long as its not negligence and MYODB.
Report Post »ellmo
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 7:50pmAmen
Report Post »Propertyof IAM
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:30pmMy daughter actually likes to run barefoot in the snow, my son has been out in just his undies and boots many times. Before undies it was diapers and snow, they actually can’t wait to do it. Now that they are older it is not as frequent , guess they are wising up. This kid is just learning to do hard things and control and overcome emotional responses a trait many parents would do well to train into their children. I am happy to say my kids are not whiny wimps about stuff because I encourage tenacity and self control. ‘Course there is alot of cryin’ along the way, with gentle coaching this also passes, nothing worth achieving is easy and life is about overcoming many obstacles even though you feel like crying. I see a kid learning to pull up his bootstraps and carry on without flinching as an adult.
Report Post »Sunspots
Posted on February 9, 2012 at 9:34amThat’s what I see, too. I get tired of today’s kids being treated like fragile eggs who cannot handle anything. I remember my mother used to let me go out in the rain an snow wearing only shorts, or a sundress and sandals because that is what I wanted and she figured I would figure out that being cold is uncomfortable when I was ready to learn. She always kept a watchful eye, but allowed me to try and fail on my own. When I was faced with a challenge, I was told to figure it out. And my father taught me to swim by throwing me in the deep end of the pool. I grew up just fine and have a “can do” attitude, unlike so many who don’t even want to try things because it could be “too hard” or give up when there is a challenge.
Report Post »bankerpapaw
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:26pmIf the Chinese do this to their own kids, can you imagine what they will do to you when they
Report Post »repossess this country?
circleDwagons
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:42pmthey might teach us to have a backbone , hope it snows here soon so my 2yr old can race with his sister.
Report Post »ColdWarrior66
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:26pmI have done the same thing myself, only my little daughter voluntarily followed my into the pool where we had to break 1″ of ice in order to swim. The only complaints that we got were from the people in the spa where we went after the swim in order to warm up, it cooled them off too much!
Report Post »Just in time
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:25pmThe men in this country are being feminized. This is a boy becoming a man. Nothing wrong with wanting your boy child to become a strong man.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:22pmSurprised at some of the comment on here that say this is just fine……sorry – I say no it’s not & agree with the one that said this is a form of “child abuse”. A 4-yr. old is not equivalent to a grown person in the military or a kid working on the farm. Also has nothing to do with being “pc”, etc. ???
I suspect this was a bit traumatic for the boy plus he could have caught pneumonia after the shock to his body of being in this weather not protected. Something wrong with the parents who think this would help.
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:36pmThe people on this site generally seem to support things that most people consider child abuse. Any time there is a video of an adult doing something excessive to a child, most of the comments defend the parents’ “right” to do it. Most of the time, the victim is blamed as well.
Report Post »Lordchamp
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:36pmThe human body is much more able to protect itself than we give it credit. Getting sick from this would mean that the child was already sick and had a weakened immune system. Our immune systems are like muscles, if not allowed to work occasionally they will be weak and easily overburdened.
I beg to differ that yes, it is a PC issue. That mentality has made us soft, mentally and physically as a Country. As was already stated, most men are more feminine than masculine and that too comes from us being neutered by the PC mentality.
Does this particular incident mean anything in the huge scheme of things, No. Did it do harm to this child? No. Are some of the responses here indicative of a deep rooted problem with this Country? A resounding YES!
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:03pmLordchamp-
What “good” does this do for the child? They are willingly putting their child in pain in order to make a baby into a “man”? Wow, that’s ignorant.
Report Post »Lordchamp
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 4:00pmPain? Are you kidding? To walk around in the snow for a few minutes is pain? Surely you jest. If you never push the limits even a little bit you never learn your limitations. As someone else said. If the child were left outside by himself unattended then, yes that is wrong. Myself, I would have been out there with him just like he was dressed if if had been my choice to do this. Lead by example as a parent.
My point was that this is NOT child abuse, it is not insane. What is insane is NOT teaching your children things, to include hard things. To prepare them for everything you can possibly foresee in their future. Not doing that IS ABUSE from a parent.
Taking a child out and “roughing” it when it is cold, or hot, or wet, or dry. Teaching they to act and live on their own. OMG Teaching them to be ADULTS! Not whinny, whimpering brats like most of the kids and many of the so called adults these days.
What if? Just WHAT IF, something drastic happens in this Country. Would YOUR kids stand even a small chance for survival? BE HONEST!! My conscience is clear. Mine would.
Report Post »Lordchamp
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 4:11pmAlso, to correct you, ignorant means a lack of knowledge which I do not have in this situation. Merely because your beliefs differ from mine or anyone else’s does not indicate ignorance. However, history has proven my beliefs to be correct in many situations in the past which could definitely lead to believing that in the present and future they will also hold true. I’m willing to put mine and my families lives on the line with those beliefs, teaching, and training. Are you?
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 4:54pm“Pain? Are you kidding?”
Are YOU kidding? You don’t think laying in snow with only underwear on is painful to a 4 year old? I wonder why he was crying in the video…
“Taking a child out and “roughing” it when it is cold, or hot, or wet, or dry. Teaching they to act and live on their own. OMG Teaching them to be ADULTS! Not whinny, whimpering brats like most of the kids and many of the so called adults these days.”
‘What if? Just WHAT IF, something drastic happens in this Country. Would YOUR kids stand even a small chance for survival? BE HONEST!! My conscience is clear. Mine would.”
Give me a break. The child is 4 years old. Why does a FOUR YEAR OLD need survival skills? There is no way he could survive on his own at that age regardless of how much training you’ve put him through. Why not wait until he is old enough to understand what he is being “taught”?
Report Post »SERUM
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 8:28pmNick***
Report Post »Why don’t you go on a real crusade and find kids that really do need your help instead giving us a bunch of lipservice…with your kind, you’ll just split up a family.
Nick84
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 9:59pmSERUM-
A “real crusade”? Like pushing for parents’ right to mistreat their children?
Report Post »FaithfulFriend
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:15pmI’m pretty sure mom and dad tell him to “learn to suffer and serve the party chairman”.
Report Post »BMroxy
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:10pmI am apalled. That is mean! Both my children were more premature than this four year old and the one thing known about preemies is that they are behind other children their age to begin with. It can take years, up to the age of 10 for them to be at the same level as children their age, and Im not talking about mentally. Motor skills, emotionally, socially and Im sure that extreme cold did wonders for the child who if he ever was on a ventilator runs a higher risk of asthma due to scarring of his lung tissue. This was mean to do to any four year old much less a preemie. What a pathetic excuse for this.
Anyone remember Brian Bozworth the football player who started his career at OU? he was a preemie and I doubt highly his parents fed him extra vitamins to get him sized up or put him through extreme situations to make him tougher!
Any parent of a preemie who loves their child understands the extra care and love involved. This was just CRUEL AND MEAN and the child probably would have been treated the same, preemie or not!
Consquently both my preemies are now caught up and even taller than some of the other chidren their age and do everything other boys do. I didn’t have to do anything out of the ordinary when caring for a preemie to make them catch up in size or in boyhood either.
This irritates me!!!
Report Post »crystalinwi
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:06pmummmm. . . why isn’t this considered child abuse and the child removed from the home??????????????
Report Post »Mikev5
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 3:24pmWhy don’t these bleeding heart liberals that cry with outrage at something like this cry about all the Mexicans forcing their kids to walk through the Desert to get to America That’s ok but this Dad is a monster?
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 4:15pmProbably because you don’t make the laws or work for Child Services.
Report Post »Mikev5
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 5:05pmCaptain Crunch
You know what I find idiotic is these Mexicans that drag their kids into America and so many are doing this they had to put up signs showing Mom and Pop dragging there kid across the freeway to get into America that we need to be vigilant for them crossing the freeway and post the signs.
How crazy is that? But that’s not child abuse is it NO?
Report Post »TheObamanation
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 1:58pmMaybe next time they should vacation at Disneyworld …
Report Post »flatdaddio
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 1:58pmhe will be fine…
Report Post »Lordchamp
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 1:57pmI remember doing this on my own as a kid. Didn’t hurt me at all. I rarely wore shoes outside because I loved it. OMg I even got some spankings as a kid. All well deserved I might add.
We’re a bunch of soft, PC correct cry babies.
It wasn’t too long ago that people at the age of 6-8 were working on the farm and already learning life skills. Not sitting in front of the boob tube going brain dead.
Life is tough and real life is even tougher.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:07pmJust think. If the parents were burdened with a little girl,, they might have left her outside.
Report Post »SeeingThingsClearly
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:12pmAmen, I also ran around without shoes, was spanked, etc. And I’m fine. I‘ve seen the parents around my town that don’t spank their kids (or even put them in time out); I’ve watched how the kids in turn hit and swear at their parents while the parent does nothing. I don’t want to think about what our society will be like (if we even have a society left) by the time these kids are grown :(
Report Post »RedneckJim
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:18pmI did the same thing. Dang – I nearly died of . . . not that. What a world of wimps and mamma’s boys we live in today. PC idiots all need to move to France, or better yet, Antarctica.
Report Post »barnsy
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:37pmAlthough I think its kind of extreme and strange I dont think the kid is in any real danger. The same bleeding hearts that want to crucify this kids dad would bend over backwards to keep another truely abused child with a drug addicted “ crack mother”.
Report Post »johnsell
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 1:56pmProbably not something that should be done in public, however we don’t have the whole story and if he has been doing this before and the child has any idea of why he is doing this and has predict as to how long it will last and what to expect, I don’t see that it is cruel. Try Marine boot-camp…..
Report Post »SREGN
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 1:53pmPoor kid. You can’t pick your parents. I guess you have to look on the bright side of things. If he had been born to the Obamas, Moochelle would have eaten him by now.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 1:41pmYou cannot fix Stupid!
Report Post »JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 1:53pmAmen brother!
Report Post »65Mustang
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:37pmYou’ve got that right!!
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