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Elderly Man Goes Violently Berserk Over Man Pretending to Fart in Target Store

Jack Vale has pretended to pass gas in public before. Usually it leads others to weird looks and chuckles. But recently, it led one elderly man to punch Vale in the face — several times.

While pulling off one of his stunts at a local Target store recently, Vale chose two unsuspecting elderly shoppers as, well, targets. Using an electronic fart machine, Vale meandered over to the shoppers and made several unbecoming noises. After walking away, the elderly man took exception to the stunt (thinking it was real), got up out of his electronic scooter, and started looking for Vale. He eventually found him, and it didn’t end well:

As the video says, once the police arrived, Vale declined to press charges.

(H/T: Buzzfeed)

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  • MidWestMom
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:20am

    As an isolated incident – a prankster who got more than he bargained for and a person who felt very strongly that it wasn’t funny at all.

    On a wider scale it seems there are more & more folks (on either “side”) living on a hair trigger. Situations large & small are being met with high levels of instant rage – verbal and/or physical. I think it indicates just how far out on the cliff our country is sitting.

    I‘m afraid it won’t take much more for the final push into the abyss of a complete breakdown of society.

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:30am

      Get off my lawn!!!

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:33am

      I disagree, Midwestmom.

      You are not seeing something new, you are seeing a return to something old; the expectation that people will conduct themselves with some degree of decorum in public places. Vale is part of the problem, and the elderly man who knocked his block off is part of the solution.

      Vale represents the decay of society, and that old man represents Society’s defense. God bless that old man.

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    • Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:36am

      @ Mid: you are correct… we are becoming an extremly rude country and ppl are sick of this crap. Our rights are being destroyed, our families are out of work, the economy sucks, we have the worst President in our history, etc…. Put it all together and ppl are pissed and they arent gonna take it anymore…

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    • loriann12
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:42am

      Do you think maybe he‘ll realize that it’s not funny? Doubt it.

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    • mtrublu
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:46am

      @SMITHCLAR3NC3 – He did WHAT in the wife’s face? Absolutely nothing! He squeezed a harmless toy in her vicinity. If it was truly a fart, I‘d salute the geezer’s chivalry. But, he punched the guy AFTER the toy was revealed and explained! Was Vale being a “good boy?” No. Probably not. But, the vigilante punishment certainly didn’t fit the crime. Give me a break!

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:55am

      @ Dustyluv – I’m not standing on “your lawn” [whatever that's supposed to mean]….and I have no desire to do so. In fact, I didn’t mention lawns at all.

      @ smithclar3nc3 – I didn’t comment on the “right or wrong” of the man’s response. I just said he “felt very strongly that it wasn’t funny at all”

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:56am

      This has been a lesson to me! Big time! I thought his phone call prank was hysterical. The one where he walks around the store talking about the stranger by him: “Yeah, she is looking at dog food! She is pulling the can off the shelf now. I wonder if she feeds it to her family?…” My wife sees no humor in it but my kids do. I have emulated it in Walmart, just to get a laugh out of my kids and not to where strangers could be offended or even realized what I was doing…

      And I find something humorous in this prank also. It is funny from his side. But…I do not blame the old man at all, I would have done the same if someone did that to my wife or kids. It is rude and juvenile. The first time it was ignored. The second and third it was tolerated. But after continually doing this it HAS to be perceived as a challenge. How DARE someone do this?

      Prank fail! This dude should think these things through a little better before he really gets hurt.

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    • UFOCPrez
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:07pm

      Violence in all categories is decreasing year over year. The Internet and the fact that everyone has a camera is what makes it seem to be happening more. I don’t think the old man was on edge at all. I think he saw a punk messing around with his wife. Good for the old man.

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:12pm

      @Midwest…

      The old joke is that when men get old they stand on their front porch and yell at the kids who cross their lawn to “get off my lawn”. I am suprised you haven’t heard that stereotype joke. It’s been around for ages.

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    • OUTRIDER WRITER
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:15pm

      @JAYCEN
      You wrote the only sane, non-kneejerk response in this entire blog. Spot on.

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    • chips1
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:16pm

      MTRUBLU:
      Are you that ignorant? It would be similar to a person having a toy gun pointing at you and having to wait for the first shot to prove it was or wasn’t real. In other words, being dead is to prove you were wrong. The real test is how a normal and reasonable person would react. His wife was targeted on purpose and the response was appropriate.

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    • Cptnjarhead
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:23pm

      “break down of society”
      the thing to remember, if not for youtube or other social media outlets to upload these vids too, this might have made the local paper. Front page? probably not.

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    • ZOMBIE JESUS LOVES ME
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:37pm

      If the same kid had played the same prank on an old man in Muslim dress, you people would be peeing yourself laughing.

      The old man broke the law. The kid should have pressed charges and told the old goat a lesson.

      You teabaggers! You’re all for the letter of the law … unless it suits your fancy to break it!

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    • YellowFin
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:39pm

      Mr. Vale needs to grow up, finally graduate from high school and get a job like a man. I wonder if he is embarrassed over his foolishness?

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    • Bloody Sam
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:39pm

      Like my Dad used to say…
      “It‘s not a joke unless everyone thinks it’s funny.”

      Mr. Vale needs to be prepared for this type of reaction on occasion.
      Glad he decided not to press the issue or charges.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:40pm

      @ – Jaycen
      “You are not seeing something new, you are seeing a return to something old; the expectation that people will conduct themselves with some degree of decorum in public places.”…..”Vale represents the decay of society, and that old man represents Society’s defense.”

      – I agree. I apologize if my comment wasn’t clear. I am one of those people with the same expectations. I do believe people are fed up with bad manners (as they should be). But I also feel people are fed up with many, many things – large & small. My point was the response of “fighting back” in defense of society’s decay, on numerous levels, is accelerating…in general, we’ve been pushed to the breaking point.

      And again, I did not comment one way or another on the right/wrong of the gentleman’s response.

      @ – Fly Old Glory 24/7 365 – Exactly. The rising “not going to take it anymore” attitude toward the collective pile is becoming more & more evident every day. The amount of polarization, on every level, in this country is becoming wider & wider. Only time will tell if it’s a good thing or a bad thing…or a bit of both.

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    • Edct
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:50pm

      I agree our society is getting more and more crude and disgusting….and I would have no problem with the older man knocking this jerk on his ass.

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    • thinkinghuman
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:53pm

      Are you guys CRAZY?? Anyone who doesn’t think this prank was funny, to see the reactions, and then who sides with the crazy old fart of a man, is just like my teacher(s) in GRADE SCHOOL who also didn’t think anything I did as a kid was funny either LOL.

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    • Mirimichi
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:54pm

      I agree with your sentiments.

      But, I also side with the older gentleman and his wife. There is so much dis-respect shown to other people in today’s society. I would have had that guy on the floor.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:59pm

      @ Dustyluv
      “The old joke is that when men get old they stand on their front porch and yell at the kids who cross their lawn to “get off my lawn”.
      – Yes, I have heard it many times before but didn’t make the connection. A bit of brain exhaustion on my part. I’ve been taking my turn with others in my family, caring for a very ill family member on top of my normal responsibilities. Too many nights with too little sleep the last few weeks…..I apologize for my snappy reaction.

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:02pm

      to Dustyluv-I’ve seen the movie and know what the “lawn” response meant………good movie

      to Midwestmom-LMAO-ROTF!!!! the “get off my lawn” statement was a quote from a recent Clint Eastwood movie. It was meant as an agreement to what you were saying. Sorry,,,but when I read your response to Dustyluv,,,,,I litterally laughed til I had tears in my eyes………it’s all good!!

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:03pm

      MTRUBLU,
      I don’t think the old man heard a word until long after he had hit the pankster in question. Looking at the video the old guy saw red after he saw a man purposely fart in his wifes face. The prankster targets a couple in wheelchairs because of their stature to his anus and their inability to true lash out. He didn’t count on there being one more fight in that old dog. And he didn’t count on the old guy hunting him down as he ran off at first. If my mother or father were in the same situation and someone farted in their face on purpose the beating I would be legendary. That being said the prankster didn’t press charges which was the stand up thing to do and in the end there was truely o harm and no foul. Maybe he use his humor and jokes on people in his generation that have similar taste. And not exploit seniors who simply want to live out their final years with a little dignity.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:05pm

      It would be interesting to see how the responses in here break down according to age! I bet it is the younger, under 40 crowd that justifies the prank, and the older crowd that defends the man’s actions. For the most part anyway.

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    • ShyLow
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:19pm

      A prank is just harassment done for amusement…pranksters are punks…First it’s a fake fart,then they’re super-gluing toilet seats,then they’re stopping up toilets,then they’re smearing crap on door knobs,then they’re putting a mouse trap on your ear-lobe…Any one whose standing up for this punk prankster,I hope you get the hershey-squirts and go to use a public toilet,but you can’t because the punk clogged the toilet and smeared crap on the seat,then you run to your car,only to find the air has been let out of your tires,so you crap yourself right in the parking lot with no ride home

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    • AYFKM
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:20pm

      Typical DumbOCrat.
      What’s with the scooter, old man? It sure looks like you can get around just fine without it. But then you wouldn’t get the premium parking package, would you?

      That’s right; I said it. Get a life. Like you never farted for fun, eh? I call BS on that one. Just look at you.

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    • UnsilentMajority
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:24pm

      Its funny how a blatant lack of respect of people in public is misconstrued for fun and games. I wonder if that jackass’ parents think that is funny. It wasn’t funny when the old man jabbed him in the jaw. You want to tell jokes and violate the personal space of others…. take it to the comedy club moron. It is about time someone stood up to those who promote this kind of immaturity and mask it as harmless fun. It wasn’t fun for the old lady who thought someone was dropping ass on her. I say good for the old man. Perhaps next time you should say I am sorry for my shameful joke sir and then show him the evidence.

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    • oopss
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:24pm

      What will be, will be ! Better dead then RED !!

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:25pm

      Not a nice prank, but, not a nice response either, the ones who think this old man handled this appropriately are bonkers. If someone did that to me, and didn’t get away from me right away, I WOULD NOT go hunting him down in the store and I WOULD NOT hit him..sheesh people!

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    • UnsilentMajority
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:35pm

      @ Troll Trainer…

      Not all of us under 40 think punks are funny. I am 36 and as for me its all fun and games until you get punched in the head for getting out of line. People have got to know their limitations whether they are taught to them or if they have to learn from an old man punching them in the head. If my dad seen a video of me doing that to someone. He too would have punched me in the head. Not laughing now is he.

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    • DEADFACEBOOK
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:48pm

      sounds like a good theory… im always waiting for someone to tick me off enough, so i can punch them in the mouth or just throw them around and blow off some steam.

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    • DEADFACEBOOK
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:52pm

      why is the headline demonizing the man… “violently berserk” really? more like “vaguely angry” or “somewhat physical”

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    • Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 2:02pm

      @ROSEELLEN: there have been many disgusting posts on this site over time but you take the cake. That is one of the worst things I have ever read and you should be ashamed. And you are reported..

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 2:10pm

      @ silentwatcher

      I’m glad I can give someone a good-natured laugh these days, even at my own expense. With all the bad going on, we need a chuckle now and then to keep our sanity. Like I said, too many nights, too little sleep…. and yes, its all good. : )

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    • nobammy
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 2:23pm

      i agree. if you are going to play a prank like this then you should expect the unexpected. people may not share your sense of humor. honestly, it was sophomoric behavior and unoriginal. although i don’t like violence, i tend to side with the older gentlman.

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    • Atrus00
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 2:25pm

      @AYFKM

      Hahaha. That’s exactly what I was going to say. I worked retail for a while and the vast majority of people who used the electric carts did not need them at all. They would walk into the store just fine, sit down in one and drive it around for an hour (usually bumping into the displays and making us clean up the mess in the process) and then park it and walk out while carrying multiple bags of groceries by hand… no cane, no limp, no nothing.

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    • Bullhorn Guy
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 3:17pm

      Sorry, but it was funny. Yeah, the guy overreacted, and the kid got what he deserved. Who cares? Farts are funny, and if you don’t agree, you don’t know what funny is. Lighten up, people!

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    • DrFrost
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:11pm

      @Jaycen

      Granted, what Vale did was childish. But I strongly disagree with your implication that the elderly man’s actions were appropriate. Violence was NOT the correct response to this situation.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:01pm

      The old man should not have gotten violent. That is clear. he overreacted, and didn’t seem to be paying attention to what actually happened.

      That said, the young guy was a jackass. I have always hated “pranks” like that. Always hated Candid Camera too. Pranks among friends are one thing. They at least can know your intentions and call you on the carpet if you go too far. But doing this cr&p to strangers is rude and anti-social. It literally breaks down the social cohesion that makes civil society bearable. It proclaims that no respect needs to be given to others in public as long as no “harm” is done, ignoring the harm to the fabric of polite society, which once lost is hard to recover.

      So, I’m rather glad the old guy decked him anyway. But, tut, tut, of course. ;-)

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    • Lamarr01
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:37pm

      These “boys” are a little old to think farting is hilarious. Farts are funny to eight-year-old boys but these two appear to be about 20. One makes a farting noise and his friend videos the results. It shows a lack of respect for the woman in the chair.

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    • ireport uderide
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 6:00pm

      Life is not the Howard Stern show. Leave this to professionals.

      Having said that, I believe as a hated and maligned smoker this would be one way to protest the anti-public smoking laws our government has shoved down our throats. I wonder how soon we could get our rights back by using this tactic on planes in restaurants and bars and at outdoor stadiums.

      “NO JUSTICE! MORE WHIFFS!

      HEY HEY HO HO! LETS US SMOKE OR WE WILL BLOW!

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    • poverty.sucks
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 6:14pm

      Mean People Suck

      Punks Suck

      I would not have stopped at punching the punk until that kids was down.

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    • GPS-Tech
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 6:39pm

      Why do I have to keep saying this over and over again? those of you who didnt spend much time out on the streets when you were growing up, Dont F–k with people you dont know.

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    • TulsaYeeHaw
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 8:36pm

      Jaycen, I would have beat his old wrinkled ass to near death, and then farted on his face for real. People like that can just get off their high horse and calm down. This miserable excuse for a defender of decency was riding around in a scooter, yet is OK enough to get into a fist fight over a damn fart. I would bet this guy had a handicapped sticker in his car. Does he appear very handicapped?

      Decay of society, it was a F-ing FART. Deal with it.

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    • Trance
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:23pm

      What a jackass. If someone did that to my wife, he’d get his ass kicked… At least he didn’t press charges.

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    • celestialwolven
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 8:57am

      @Fly Old Glory

      Worst president in history? So I guess the national debt being raised by 150% during Bush senior’s term in office (vs. Obama’s 40% thusfar) and providing quality health care to the masses should be considered an abomination to mankind?

      You need to get your head straight, dude. The problem isn’t Obama. It‘s right wingers pointing the finger when ALL of our country’s current problems were initiated by Bush, Jr. during his 8 years in office. Obama hasn’t done a dang thing wrong in comparison.

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    • orkydorky
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 12:05pm

      There seems to be no respect from the younger generations any longer and the older people seem to be an easy mark for them as they haven’t the guts to go on an even keel with a real man, but this jerk run into one he wasn’t expecting. To all those little snot noses out there, time waits for no one.

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    • orkydorky
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 12:18pm

      The kind of thing Bill Mayre and friends would think was a joke! Not funny, never will be! He got what he had coming.

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    • Libertarian
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 12:57pm

      The ignoramus got a fist sandwich, how’s it taste?

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    • Libertarian
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 12:58pm

      It is too bad the men of this country are getting old.

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    • Old Truckers
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 4:03pm

      Libertarian,
      I hear ya.

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    • J-Law
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 4:48pm

      Reporter, why are you calling him “elderly”? He could be in his 50s. He sure moves fast.

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    • newrepublic7
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:04pm

      @ JAYCEN

      Your absolutely right! It wasn’t funny and how degrading was it? For a young punk to do that to old people in automatic chairs. He thought he had an easy victim and it turned out poorley for the dumbass kid. Lucky he did it a school and not the bus stop! oops that’s me flashing back sorry

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    • Husker66
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:17am

      As the saying goes “Life is tough, but it‘s tougher when you’re stupid” The Duke John Wayne would have bitch slapped that kid into next week and had him mowing his lawn for free for the next year teaching him about respecting your elders or your betters

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  • SREGN
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:19am

    If I had a dollar for every time an old man farted around me……………

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:40am

      lol

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    • flagkeeper
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:12pm

      You know, I think I’d be rich. What you say is true, unfortunately. Whether they do it on purpose- the world may never know…

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    • thinkinghuman
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:54pm

      OF COURSE they do it on purpose. Everyone does that on PURPOSE. Old or young.

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    • HairRazor
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 3:24pm

      I think there was something more unstable about the elder than his gait.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:24pm

      No, everyone does NOT do it on purpose. The sad thing about getting old is that muscles lose their elasticity and strength. The sphyncter is a muscle. As you get older it rests closed with much less tension so that only large quantities of gas or fecal matter trigger it to tighten up. Thus a small amount of gas can slip out before it even feels it, especially if any exercion is performed, like lifting something.

      Getting old sucks.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:25pm

      Of couse, as my friend always says, getting old is better than the alternative.

      That’s true, up to a point.

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  • Stu Cozza
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:19am

    This could not have happened in a Target store… maybe a Wal-Mart, but NEVER in a Target store. ;)

    The old guy punched somebody for using an “electronic fart machine” (where does one buy one of these delightful examples of technology at its finest?) – does the EFM create an odor as well?

    Lord Windismere and Paul Boomer would be amazed, knowing what they hath wrought. ;)

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  • RodT82721
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:18am

    Wow, there just happened to be someone that was passing by to video the entire thing! How great is that?
    It reminds me of the old “Candid Camera” show, where people where props for a TV pseudo “reality” show. Sometimes they ran into folks like the old guy, that climbed out of his motorized wheel chair and went hunting for the jokester, to teach him some manners.

    It’s obvious to me, the old guy needs some sensitivity training, to handle “the younger generation’s idea of fun at your expense”, rights.

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  • streetrodder
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:18am

    Was it a real fart or was he using the fart machine, my favorite thing to use at a movie.

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  • IMAKESENSETOME
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:16am

    So, I’m glad the guy riding in the scooter had enough physical strength to walk around, find the guy, punch him the face and what not… I‘m not saying he’s a phony because he obviously looks like he has trouble walking. I just thought it was funny the way he shot up out of the chair and walked down the aisle, and then he followed the guy. On another note, since this guy is… well, a guy. I wonder if he’s ever farted around his wife. I mean they look like they‘ve been married for a while and you’re gonna tell me that in all those years he never let one squeak by while is wife was sitting next to him? He may be a perfect gentlemen and I could be wrong, but the odds are… not in his favor.

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    • Stu Cozza
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:21am

      Exactly. Does he lift up on one cheek and sneak, or let go with both barrels?

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    • BuckOfama
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:32am

      I bet he has given the old girl a Dutch Oven or two……..

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:45am

      The Dutch Oven?? Egads!! Why don’t you just waterboard somebody instead? At least it wouldn’t stink…. ;)

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:33pm

      “You can‘t fart in my wife’s face! Only I can fart in her face!”

      Dutch Oven. I forgot that term. That is relevant to the thread about two teens charged as sex offenders, as well. Guys do these things. Never having been married I’ve never gotten to the point where I could be confident to deliberately afflict a girl with a fart. Never broke the fart barrier, as my friend calls it. There is a certain level of intimacy required to do that.

      Which is WHY of course, you don‘t fart in the face of another guy’s girl.

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  • BuckOfama
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:15am

    I love it…. Was the old fart frightened by a fart as a child? The worst thing stores ever did was supply electric scooters for the fat and lazy……

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:34am

      They supply them for people who cannot, or who have trouble, physically walking around in a store. Unfortunately, they are almost always taken by the fake handicap: fat, lazy people.

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    • Mike Ivey
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:50pm

      When i was a teen I was using profanity around a man and his wife and sister. I was told that if I kept it up I would be in deep stuff. I was acting disrespectful and deserved it. I stand with the man don’t disrespect my wife either.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:08pm

      @Mike

      So what you’re saying is that when you did these kinds of things as kid, you were warned to settle down and not beaten…the way these things used to be handled, and thus today you approve of the first response being a violence?

      Help me out on the logic of that please?

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    • UnsilentMajority
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 2:02pm

      I love it too… when people can’t stay on point with the topic. Then they point out stupid little things like old and fat and lazy.

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  • UBETHECHANGE
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:15am

    @GHOSTOFJEFFERSON

    Only a moronic childish lib would do something so mindless, THAT’S WHY! Also I looked up his FB page and his followers are all libs, enough said.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:33am

      A person being a moron and childish does not mean you’re allowed to beat on them. Have some perspective. We have to return to our original American perspective, not devolve into hooting apes cheering all violence as long as we agree with the person doing it. Again, dad wisdom from Old School American dads – You never throw the first punch, but you always throw the last.

      God how effeminate we’ve become as a people. Mindless violence in order to assuage hurt feelings. Egads.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:59am

      Sorry Ghost, you are usually right but in this case…

      This kind of rudeness would have never been tolerated more than 50 years ago at any time in our history. He insulted the old man’s wife, you just do not treat a lady like that.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:21pm

      Let me also add that the old guy did fly off the handle and was too quick to swing. I would have grabbed me a handful of his shirt myself. He could explain his rudeness with my red face one inch from his! Once I figured out it was a prank I would have straightened him out on messing with others in such a way. But rudeness to others is unacceptable. In times past men killed and people died for far less. Do I want to go back to that? No. Absolutely not. But the pendulum has swung way too far the other direction. Not enough azz whoopings as a kid anymore I guess…

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:06pm

      @Troll

      Don’t think so guy. The joker in this case deserved to be ejected from the store by the scruff of his neck, but there is not and has never been just cause in American society for throwing the first punch. The theory was, that a fellow be the bigger man and not start the fight. Am I the only one who grew up where you didn’t physically start a fight but you ended it? I seem to recall all kinds of parents teaching their kids that at one time, but maybe I was smoking something and didn’t realize it?

      Defending your wife’s honor would have meant confronting the punk, and at best challenging him to throw the first punch or leave, not beating him down.

      In the new America of course, I know that any slight or offense means that you get to beat the living crap out of somebody and get cheers and ovations. The first recourse, as Jesus taught (not) is not to turn the other cheek but to “put a boot in their ass!” It‘s why we’re able to go out and start wars now without being attacked first, you know, just to “show them”. Meh. I did grow up in a different universe. Oh well, a new reality eh?

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:11pm

      Sorry, but the Ghost is off base. The only way for this country to get back to sanity is for some serious beat downs and culling of the herd so to speak. The libs are number one on the list. Beat their heads in.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:17pm

      I see your side Ghost and I can agree with you. I was also raised not to be a bully but to defend the weak. I never won a fight I started and never lost one that was brought to me.

      I admitted the old man acted too rashly. I am just saying I can not blame him. He was defending his wife’s honor, something totally lost on younger generations.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:48pm

      Ah, I see what you’re saying Troll. I agree. There wasn’t a lot of right going on anywhere in this video, from either party. I do understand wanting to defend your wife, I do mine (hence why I conceal carry, I‘m my family’s security detail, lol). It’s my hope that we raise the bar again on first punches being thrown. Throw the disrespectful little punk and his fart machine to the curb and prohibit him from ever entering again, that‘s what I’d recommend. Eventually once he can’t enter any real stores to speak of, he’ll get the point.

      I guess what I’m saying is that while the wimp-pendulum did swing too far until recently, it’s going too far the other way now. I prefer sense and liberty combined, self restraint in public and private, but the courage to stand like a man and fight back when struck. The Left with its “Just sit and take a beating because violence is always wrong” and the Right with its “Beat the living crap out of everything that moves even if it didn’t do anything to you but look at you sideways” seem out of synch with how I see the world.

      Shoot for Aristotle‘s Mean and you’ll live the good life, is all I can advise. Works well for me. :)

      Hope your day goes well, slainte.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:50pm

      @MIL-DOT

      Stalin thought the same thing as you stated. After the beat downs and outright mass murders occurred and were finished, he was known to exclaim “We now have fewer Russians, but better Russians”. Oh boy.

      The bigger man never throws the first punch. Sorry.

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    • UnsilentMajority
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 2:13pm

      Here is some logic for you Ghost of Jefferson: How many times has the guy gotten away with his stupid stunt without repercussions? As a child, how many times did your parents warn you not to do something before you were corrected? I got 2 chances to correct my actions on my own before I was corrected. In following your posts you seem grounded and down to earth. I just have a this question. When did childhood pranks become common place among adults and regarded as acceptable behavior for adults? I would have to say that we are well off the beaten path.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:44pm

      Ghost, I see your point. Both were wrong, and the old guy lost control. But both weren’t equally wrong. The old guy‘s violence still defended something worth defending while the punk’s prank defended nothing worthwhil. If I have to choose one wrong over the other, tolerating stupid pranks or allowing violent retribution for them, I will always choose the violent retribution. That at least has Old Testament order behind it. If I can’t have Grace I will fight for the Law before I tolerate anarchy.

      But I have to comment on something else you said:

      “God how effeminate we’ve become as a people. Mindless violence in order to assuage hurt feelings.”

      Effeminate? In the words of Inigo Montoya, “I don’t think that word means what you think it means”. :-)

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  • imhunderdog
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:13am

    Remember, some people do not have a sense of humor. And if you are inclined to do practical jokes, you must keep that in mind. Some folks will react violently.

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  • GuyManningham.com
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:12am

    I would have done the same if I were that old man. Rule #1 of being a man: Someone farts in your wife’s face, you throw down.

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    • Stu Cozza
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:15am

      …especially if she throws up.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:33am

      He farted in nobody’s face. In fact, he didn’t fart.

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    • mtrublu
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:56am

      @GUYMANNINGHAM – Either you didn’t watch the video, or you are a complete moron. NOBODY farted in ANYBODY’S face. In fact, nobody even farted. It was a silly, stupid, harmless practical joke. Call Vale childish, if you like. But, nothing he did deserved a punch in the face.

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    • fatjack
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:56pm

      Three cheers for the old geezer. Had I been there I would have dog piled that young jerk. I would have taught him how to show respect. Nuff already, before I shut off the PC and run out side and jack a jerk.

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  • TH30PH1LUS
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:10am

    I vote for the old dude.

    Also, the fact that posters are shocked that the old guy boxed the punk‘s ears just shows how quickly we’ve been turned into passive veal. The Cops were called? Over one well deserved punch? Really? What a waste of everyone’s time.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:37am

      I completely agree, the “farter” is a grown man acting like a 12 year old. It would piss me off too if somebody farted in my wife’s face. Plus, the guy picks the most defenseless looking people to do it to. I want to see the “hilarious” video of him farting in the face of some gang bangers…I won’t hold my breath until it happens.

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    • Mandors
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:03pm

      If you’re going to act like a jerk in public, be prepared for people to act in kind. I just wish the old guy had run him over in his scooter too.

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    • Dahart
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:04pm

      @GONZO…The old guy did not look too defenseless to me

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:52pm

      Dahart
      Do little scooters intimidate you?

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  • Alky
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:09am

    I wonder if the Government paid for that electric wheelchair that he obviously doesn’t need??

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    • ZZero
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:32am

      It was probably his insurance company, which will soon be the Fed Govt., who paid for his chair. You get an adrenaline rush from anger or fear and you can lift a car, or walk and swing. The guy was pissed at being the butt of a stupid joke and the outright rudeness. Older folks, who actually have personal pride, can relate to being insulted by childlike behavior. There are still people who do not take insults for what they are…..insults. Fartboy’s folks should have taught him manners and respect for the elderly.

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:33am

      The GOVERNMENT does not pay for ANYTHING…WE DO! The Govenment does not have any money other than what they steal from us.

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    • ZZero
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 3:35pm

      True Dusty, so true in more ways than one.

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  • Steven63
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:02am

    Who filmed this? Shot from a low level with camera pans so I don’t think it was the stores cameras. Looks like some sort of scripted stunt.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:14am

      Ding! You win a cookie! :)

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    • pschlentz
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:15am

      It is a scripted stunt. You can find this crap on YouTube.com. It‘ nothing more than one of those ’gotcha’ things that the youth do today to get attention. That’s what happens when the youth of America gets dumbed down. Being smart and successful is not cool, being stupid and obnoxious is. Cool, right?? NOT!!

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    • FormerLib
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:22am

      Yep. Everyone want their 15 minutes. Viral video is the way it’s done now.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:00am

    Good for you old man.

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:00am

    Seems like target is stealing some Walmart customers. They are goint to need more riding-chairs.

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    • Vixvenom
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:42am

      He who is last will be first……keep that in mind, it’s not the well to do and wise on earth that will rule in Heaven…..just sayin.

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  • It is their RIGHT, it is their DUTY...
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:59am

    It should have been a Wal-Mart store, it would have been perfect!
    But Gross!!

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    • teddrunk
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:54am

      Wal-Mart customers use real farts, not electronic ones.

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:59am

    Do not ‘play fart’ in the face of the squidbillies.

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  • TexasCommonSense
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:59am

    At least he showed enough class to not press charges.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:55am

      Come on Texas, how can you use class to describe that guy? He picks the most defenseless looking people he can find in the store and farts in their face? It matters very little that it was not a real fart. They thought it was and were humiliated, tha’t why the old man felt the need to defend his wife. The only reason he didn’t press charges is because if it went ot court and the video was shown he would have lost.

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  • fishlore
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:58am

    People who intentionally try to get a rise out of others deserve every single punch they get. At least the d-bag didn’t press charges.

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    • 101
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:01pm

      The punk got what he had coming

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  • eat-more-bacon-USA
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:58am

    Good; Idiot-Boy got what he deserved. Maybe it’s time to grow up – What do you think?

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    • Psytoxic
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:02am

      Yes, solving problems with your fists is definitely the “grown up” thing to do.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:16am

      Sometimes it is. I’d bet you grew up with “time-outs” rather than getting a spanking.
      Walking around stores “pretending” to fart, just to get a reaction is not only creepy, but rude and dementedly juvenile behavior. He got what he deserved.

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    • Psytoxic
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:27am

      Not that it’s any of your business, but I got the belt. I agree that pretending to fart in peoples’ faces is creepy, rude and dementedly juvenile behavior. I disagree that he deserved to get punched in the face. You realize the kid didn’t actually fart right? He used an electronic device to replicate a mildly offensive sound. The kid acted more adult by trying to explain to the old man what he had done. The old man acted like a child by not listening and lashing out.

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    • NC1
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:27am

      PSYTOXIC – A grown man acting like a kid, harassing an old person and filming it needs his a$$ kicked. The guy needs to get a real job providing something beneficial to society rather than that garbage. The young guy needs to grow up. This pansy crap of not “solving problems with your fists” is ridiculous. He stood up for his wife. That’s what a man is supposed to do. He should have kept on with a total beat down. I think the old guy could have took him out.

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    • Desert Dog
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:17pm

      Getting his butt kicked is all this immature little punk understood. I think the old guy was right in sticking up for his wife. I think the punk got off easy. Yes, he is a product of our new society. I wonder if he did that to somebody younger.

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  • UBETHECHANGE
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:56am

    Stupid liberal got what he deserved…a punch to the head!

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:03am

      How do you know he’s a liberal precisely?

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    • concealled9mms
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:38am

      Because all libarals are full of shi- and they have to discharge often. Thats why we no it was a liberal

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:13pm

      I’ll tell you how we know he is a liberal prog. Because liberal progs like to get in your face to provoke a response and when you let them have it , they play the victim. That is how we know. It was textbook liberal prog.

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    • celestialwolven
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 9:16am

      You people are the ones who are full of s***. Not only are you making unfounded and untrue stereotypes about a political agenda that has nothing whatsoever to do with this incident, you throw around the term “liberal” like it’s some kind of curse.

      Thanks to those “liberals”, I can now stay on my parents‘ insurance until I’m 26 and finish my college education. And we don’t have to pay extra for insurance just because I already have health issues. Huzzah.

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:56am

    Well…seems like Target is getting some of Walmart’s customers. Walmart should be worried.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:54am

    Good for the old guy!!!

    Some one still has manners and is willing to defend them!

    Would he be willing to take a WH tour on our behalf????

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    • kickagrandma
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:01am

      After watching the video, I would like to say that I don’t think the man is “elderly”, just “old”. “Elderly” to me implies someone in his/her 80′s and older.

      Sorry he didn’t listen to the young man who should know better by now. Acting like you are a 13-18 year old boy is never becoming on a grown man. It’s hardly becoming when you are 13-18! IMHO

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:02am

      You don’t initiate violence because somebody makes offensive sounds. That’s not just wrong morally, it’s un-American. You never start a fight, you only finish them. Dad wisdom needs to apply here. He should have used all of that “elderly wisdom” and taken the path of a man and walked away from the rude instigator.

      Initiating violence is wrong. Period. Full stop.

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    • Stu Cozza
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:23am

      If he did, he would have to punch Moochelle, as she probably does not need such a machine to generate such sounds, etc. She looks like the real deal to me.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 6:00pm

      Ghost, Jaycen wrote this above:

      “Vale is part of the problem, and the elderly man who knocked his block off is part of the solution.”

      At first I didn’t agree at all. But the more I think about it the more I think that is right. This punk wasn’t an isolated act. It is a growing trend of cultural disintegration. it is an act of cultural barbarism that must be stopped, and stopped hard.

      You say an adult shouldn’t start a fight, only finish it. Damn right. But these punks are the ones who are starting the fight. Not recognizing their assault on public decency for the attack it is only cedes the battle to them. Who’s going to fight them? Not the law. It stands by and watches society go down the tubes. It is up to decent men to “law down the law” with these punks. But challenging the kid to throw the first punch is the typical liberal move which ignores the fact that such a move presumes honor in the opponent. These punks have no honor. They are lawless. How do you communicate with lawless individuals? Through simple force. Show them consequences. That’s how you deal with irrational children. It is how you have to deal with irrational adults.

      This punk thought he could act without respect and suffer no consequences. Now he knows differently. Maybe next time he will think twice. But my money is on him needing another sock to the jaw or two. Here’s hoping another old geezer will rise to the challenge.

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    • poverty.sucks
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 6:19pm

      @Jefferson – the old man did let it go, the punk wouldn’t stop. The punk assumed the old man wouldn’t get him. The punk would not have done his joke any where near a 6′9 300lb dude. The punk picked his victim and pursued like a bully.

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:54am

    You want funny? Laura Ingraham joins me at 11am eastern on http://www.1530kcmn.com

    Her book rocks!

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:51am

    Slow news day .

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