Elizabeth Warren On Class Warfare: ‘There Is Nobody in This Country Who Got Rich On His Own’
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Former White House financial reform adviser Elizabeth Warren, who is now seeking to challenge Republican Senator Scott Brown in Massachusetts, is definitely not shy in voicing her views on class warfare — or, according to Warren, the lack thereof.
In a recent appearance captured on video, Warren, who is perhaps best known for helping to launch the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, stated boldly that there is no such thing as class warfare and that there is “nobody in this country who got rich on his own.”
Below is a transcript of Warren’s remarks:
“I hear all this, you know, ‘Well, this is class warfare, this is whatever. No. There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own — nobody.
“You built a factory out there? Good for you. But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police-forces and fire-forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory — and hire someone to protect against this — because of the work the rest of us did.
“Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific, or a great idea. God bless — keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is, you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.”
These statements certainly seem to keep in line with President Barack Obama’s reasons for proposing tax increases on America’s high income earners — especially given his recent assertion that he wears the charge of engaging in class warfare as a “badge of courage.”
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Kylestarr
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:29pmShe is as bad about talking about nothing as Moore is. Neither one of them ever listen to what they say for if they did both would realized how stupid they sound.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:54pmSomething we’ve been shouting from the rooftops for 15 years is finally, finally being carried now by the AP. The fact that the rich are paying more than their fair share of taxes. The information has been out there all these years, but until now has been covered up and ignored by the leftist media.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44592106/ns/business-us_business/
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:00pmLesb packing hollow points….
Report Post »Correct! Thank you. She is such a Marxist idiot, she just made the case that there is, indeed, class warfare. Everyone knows the people who create jobs, and therefore employ the people who make the economic engine turn, are paying more than their fair share in taxes.
Lets face it, she is an equal-results (Marxist) advocate.
Remember the failed communes of the 60′s? Why did they fail? Because the ones who worked had to support their utopia-loving comrades who did not.
decendentof56
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:06pmAlso, let us Liz of all the little 4 year olds who are given free breakfasts, lunches, all the teachers hired to ‘teach’ them, all the supplies for their use, the costs of the pre-K addition to the school, and the maintenance costs.
Report Post »They (the kids or the building) didn’t get there on its own.
Professional Infidel
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:08pmPerfect!
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:20pm@ Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:48pm
@10thamendment. And if Glenn Beck is the “Patriot” who waters the tree? Then maybe Bachman? Lots of fertilizer there!
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I’m thinking more along the lines of those trying to destroy the Republic. The same sheep of the King who are too lazy, too slovenly, and too stupid to stand on their own feet and do for themselves. People like you, and every other worthless liberal aka progressive aka communist begging for a government to be their pimp.
Pointman308
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:25pmThese people have been so indonctrinated by their own ideology, pride, and false sense of achievment that they cannot see the truth anymore. They are incapable of discerning evil especially when it proceeds forth from their own mouths.
Report Post »MontanaRob
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:38pmI‘m pretty sure that photo on top is of her describing the size of her husband’s, uhhhh…wive’s, uhhhh…whatever’s, uhhh…manhoo…uhhh, strap-….uhhh, oh, you know what I’m saying! It explains a lot, I think.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:39pmThe DINGBAT is CRAZY!!!
Report Post »SHOWMESTATEGUY
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:49pmMONTANAROB—–
You sure she is married to a man?
Report Post »jzs
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:52pmShe totally missed the point. Those roads she is talking about? The richest pay far more for those roads in front of your house than you do (maybe not Buffet but a lot do). And the fire department and police department? Yep the rich pay more for those services than you. Does she not understand that? Hello! And the schools your children go to, and the parks and the libraries – the rich pay more than you while you have the same access and enjoy the same benefits. I could go on, but basically the richest pay a lot more for all the benefits and protections you benefit from.
I get a little tired of you RINO Marxists happily being the recipients of the distribution of wealth to YOU! If you weren‘t so lazy you’d go out there and get a real job, or start a business that would bring in millions, or indeed billions. You can’t you say? Too hard? You sound just like the people getting food stamps that you abhor and feel so superior to. You’re happy to not pay your fair share, but you whine like babies at the thought that your taxes might benefit someone else, while you sit in your chair doing nothing to create jobs. At heart, you are Marxists.
Report Post »frodis
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 9:11pmI just wanna puke. What a joke.
Report Post »Marci
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 9:28pm“But part of the underlying social contract is, you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.”….
GET A GRIP WOMAN. The factory builder paid the same taxes, were they tax free on the way to shipping those goods? NOPE. Another class warfare heifer who has decided that those who put the money in and take the risk owe someone else a large portion of it. She frames this as if those people did not pay the exact same taxes. Problem is, she is appealing to the lowest common denominator who doesn’t know the difference. (SEIU/ACORN)
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 9:35pmNow if only they would give us a figure on what exactly the “fair share” is. But in the end, all they ever want is more and more of what others produce.
Report Post »JohnHW
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 9:59pmThat building that that rich person built. Did you know that when most of those buildings were built, the Democrats used a zoning law to REQUIRE him/her to build roads to that building – in some cases, widing the streets leading to that new road – or build a cloverleaf so the workers could easely enter/exit the interstate. The police – now we’re talking – I was waiting for an interview for a new division with a large software company, who had built many many buildings, when a man came back in and was complaining because he didn’t get the job and began threatening the employees (plus me and a couple of other people waiting) with a knife. The police were called. I ended up sitting on this guy for over a half hour before an officer showed up. (He hadn’t been trained to use a knife and one hit with my knuckles resulted in him not being able to hold much of anything in that hand.)
This lib has got to learn – they work for the people, not the other way around. This female should never work for the government again. Unless it is on a ranch in Nevada.
Report Post »tangobuilder
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:02pmIf this idiot woman is correct and it’s that easy, then we should easily have about a million new companies tomorrow. How many has she started?
Report Post »joseph mitch nixon
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:07pmthis is what a virus of communism can do to a person , this is why the natzy use to shoot on the spot the comisars and communist leaders .
Report Post »she is so stupid , this country is so great because was a small gov . less tax . less regulation and a great respect for our great constitution
this people are the cancer of our society and are a lot of them .
Edct
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:11pmLying liberal bit*h, everyone who starts a business or risks their money in Capitolism can easily loose their money and the f….ing gov will not pay them back for it…that is why business owners sometimes make more money than the employees. She is just another communist or marxist trying to justify raising our taxes to enslave us……we are becoming nothing but slaves to the political whores in Washington and we must stop it and take back our country and throw the illegal imposter in our White House out of office. Go Tea Party.
Report Post »Pujols
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:13pmWhat a Moron. I guess Oprah should give all that money back to who gave it to Her or just spread it around Chicago to the poor and hungry aka: ‘ The Drunks and Dopers.’ BUMBS!
Buffet, Gates and Soros? Two are so old what do they beed more than 100k for?
Report Post »GET THEM TO GIVE THEIRS UP FIRST BETH, YOU HACKTERD.
My Two Cents
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:22pm“You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory — and hire someone to protect against this — because of the work the rest of us did.”
We really didn’t have to worry until 2009 but now, with a President who bemoans the fact that we have three branches of government and a constitution, it is anyones guess. As for the rest of this wing-nut’s rant, she failed to mention that the rich guy with the factory paid far more in taxes than his employees who drove on the same roads to get to WORK.
Come on Massachusetts, you have to be smarter than this.
Report Post »Bo Digitally
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:25pmSo are you saying you didn’t vote for George Bush?
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:26pmAre we talking about Pelosi and her insider cronies ???
Report Post »Her net worth increased 64% last year..Being on the
inside and push the right Laws, really help’s..HUH ???
Pujols
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:26pmIs She holding up Her fingers to show us the size of Her Husbands Weiner?
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:31pmElizabeth Warren,or Republican Senator Scott Brown..
Report Post »Massachusetts, will be losing out either way…Sorry !!
SlimnRanger
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:32pmI do hope Elizabeth Warren stays in MA.,us Okies don’t want here back here,she is in the same mind frame as Obama, Maxine Watters, and the like,do you hear me Elizabeth Oklahoma does not want you back
Report Post »Anamah
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:35pmIs amazing to me how sick this woman is and how many confused resentful as her are working against American spirit to destroy our free market system and suffocate individuals inititive to pursuit of happiness. This administration, and the whole Democratic Party has became Progressive Maoists willing to stop our exceptional country!!! How this can be???
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:53pmGosh, when she puts it THAT way… I mean if i got an idea, sold it to investors built my factory, employed workers and shipped my goods to market over roads, paid my taxes , paid my corporate taxes and….and I’m not a good person and owe someone more of my earnings, how much? I don’t know. He’s on 2nd so whose on 1st? Right.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:53pmJust some more (In different words) of the Clinton era pap about “giving something back”. Remember all the movie stars and ball players out there who were advocating that they won life‘s lottery now it’s up to them to give something back for the next guy.
Report Post »In Chicago it would be considered the “protection” racket. “Yeah, you want to make some money, sure, but you need to pay us a little to make sure nothing bad happens to you.”
Therightsofbilly
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:25amHey JZS,
I read your post, then I scrutinized it a second time.
All I can muster up is a “shrug”
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:50amThis woman is F-n dangerous. I hope to God that she never pro-creates.
Report Post »1bambam
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:53amShe is HoT ,,,,Her Janet Reno and I …..dream come true
Report Post »bookofdaniel
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 1:04amLet’s continue her logic. So the roads, schools, police and firemen that Business uses come from us all (Government). What she doesn‘t seem to understand is that government has no money of it’s own. The money government has comes from businesses and the people businesses employ in the form of taxes.
Report Post »These folks must be defeated once and for all. They are socialist. That’s fine but not here in the USA. That system has been proven to be a complete fail.
Conservatives must do a better job at making the case for Capitalism.
bookofdaniel
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 1:21am@Lord_Frostwind
Report Post »I’ve figured out what liberals mean by “fair share”. What they mean is; A person making a hundred dollars and after taxes he has 75.00 dollars left. They want the person who makes a thousand dollars to only have 75.00 dollars left too. That’s what they mean by fair share. Get it? Damn I’m brilliant!
ChiefGeorge
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 1:43amThose taxes are also mainly and foremost for the things we all need not just the company down the road who hires the locals and oh by the way does pay taxes. They got rich yes due to what they brought to the table. Government did its job to provide a stable country in which to make said monies but to turn around and say they owe even more money for this is truly un-American. Go fly in the lake lady.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 1:56amIt’s hard to imagine an idiot like this actually making to the top levels of government. That truly proves that anyone CAN do anything if they set their mind to it. But the precept that because you exist in society you owe the rest of society is absolutely shocking. I guess that means that the idiots that suckle the teat of society‘s largess are also the product of everyone’s “effort.” So where does that leave a statement like that (‘There Is Nobody in This Country Who Got Rich On His Own’)?
Report Post »gibby45
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 2:25amLike Rodney in Back to School….you left a bunch of stuff out. First you have to pay off the Alderman and then the dockworkers and the Teamsters…I don‘t know if you’ve ever dealt with the Teamsters but they aren’t a nice bunch of guys..something to that effect. Ironically Dangerfield’s comments are about the people that pay the Democrats to stay in power. Lady you are lost.
Report Post »Salamander
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 2:41amActually, I believe that THEY believe their crap! They have honed their arguments for so long, unchallenged, that they actually believe the delusion! If they got out in the real world, they wouldn’t have time to conjure up such idiotic notions! I wonder if she ever had a Lemonade Stand, or delivered newspapers? And, selling candy bars to get a grade in school is NOT a valued lesson learned! What I’d like to know is how we, as a country, got to be so dysfunctional? None of us are blameless, whether the progressive la-di-dahs, the conservative ‘almighty-buck‘ers’ or what! Frankly, Chainsaw Al is just as culpable as Michael Moore, and WE ALL HAVE PLAYED OUR PART! Shame on US! Now, let’s FIX IT!!!
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:49am@jzs
Wow, we agree on something. It‘s like I’ve said before, rich conservatives help other people get to where they are, rich liberals kick the ladder out (with regulations, taxing, whatever) so no one else can get to where they are.
Report Post »MR_ANDERSON
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:12amElizabeth Warren gave the WEATHER UNDERGROUND SALUTE @ 0:39 in that video!!!
That is the truth, and this is the Blaze.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:20amShe is an idiot but she is correct without knowing it.
Report Post »No one has gotten rich on their own fact is most people who are rich had a great idea,started a business,purchased equipment,material and buildings made by other people,hired people,and paid larger amount of taxes,licensing fee,and social security which they can’t collect.
So basicly most rich people are also casrrying employees,manufacturers,builders,the U.S.Government, and social security recipients with them.
smithclar3nc3
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:22amAnd if 47% of people pay no taxes and use the educations,transportation,welfare,social security,and othe entitlement programs contribute NOTHIING.
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:50amWOW !! She looks unstable and the sad part is look at all the morons that clap for noting but babble from a mentally instable person..
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:55am@jzs + Elizabeth Warren = wedding bells…
Report Post »spirit of freedom
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 8:16amto all,
Report Post »who in the hell do these idiots think they are? my father in-law grew up dirt poor in minnesota his father abandoned him his mother and sisters when he was 5. to make a long truly American story short, he was gifted with art. at 15 he began custom pinstriping and painting cars in his mothers 1 car garage in the 50′s and became well know in the twin cities area. from there he turned to painting signs for businesses and managed to build that into a multi million dollar int’l company.
it is now sold and he and my mother in-law are retired and enjoying the time they have left.
no one gave him a dime he scratched and fought for everybit of his success and did quite well.
these commie socialist azz holes have no clue!
scrooge
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 8:18amAnd who will protect us from marauding bands of democrats? Union thugs?
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 8:59amYea…like business owners don‘t pay ANY taxes according to this ’statist’ bitch. Won’t fly…we are not that stupid….well some are; She is an endangered species—a WD-40…..White Democrat over 40….
Vote Democrat, ‘Progressive’, Statist’, socialist…or what ever you want to goby…means poverty and no opportunity for ALL………….
Report Post »Emrys
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:00amShe’s sick. The government is OBLIGATED to build roads and bridges, provide police protection. That means the factory owner doesn’t OWE the government a damned thing, other than the taxes required to pay for those services.
But we know what she really means: the factory owner should pay Much, MUCH more than what it costs to provide those basic governmental services she mentioned. She wants him to pay for daycare for the community, free lunches and breakfasts, foodstamps, shrimp on treadmills, etc. etc. And of course to pay bureaucrats fat salaries to sit there and soak up money while they parcel out small amounts. Talk about your Ponzi schemes!
Report Post »LadyMecham
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:08amSo is she the new Mafia in town? According to her, if you have a successful business and want to maintain that business then you have to pay for it, or else. Lady, all your lacking is a mouth full of cotton and a lisp.
Report Post »Czar Casm
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:37amSuch is the mind set of a woman whose pay/income/wealth comes from the confiscation of other peoples money through taxes. By getting on the inside, like the Pelosi reference by MIBUGNU2, to confiscate even more.
Report Post »Why do you think politicians want to raise taxes? It diverts money from the private sector through the greedy hands of the politicians.
The worst enemy of a politician is someone making it on his or her own. The politician HAS to have dependents. The politician HAS to have divisions among people, this group against that group. Classes in other words.
Ask yourself who’s going to get any richer, who’s lot in life will improve when the rich have even more money confiscated from them? Yours or my pay going to go up? Prices are going to come down? Nope. Only people in political power will see that money and distribute it amongst their crony friends and only crumbs will get to the “people” to continue to buy their votes.
Remember: “socialism is for the people, not the socialists.”
Politicians HATE your freedom.
Guardog44
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:41amCan blonds do simple math? Can you teach a bat the truth?
Report Post »cgizzy
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 10:03amWhy am I always reminded of Atlas Shrugged and The Fountain Head when I hear these kinds of quotes. Both books had the “You don’t own it because someone else before you made it possible” motif, and Isn’t that exactly what Warren is saying? You need to pay more because someone else made it possible for you to do it?
Does anyone on the left understand that it wasnt someone inventing or paving roads or whatever that allows people to invent and develope better techonology and claim they “created” or got rich on their own. Its the ingenuity and determiniation that creates these things. Every idea every created is useless unless someone has the ingenutity and determination to make it work. People like Warren dont see that, infact, whether they realize it or not, they want to crush those characteristics because of some obsurd belief that everything belongs to everyone.
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:36amthe link from viet vet: the exact same info has been used the last few days. its wrong. they give the rate of 29% for the rich as ALL taxes paid, personel, state, city, property and give the rate for middle income at 15% as only federal taxes.. i make about 60K and pay 40% for my entire tax burden.
Report Post »sweathog1948
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:57amIf she wants to start out putting Bush down she should list all the facts. America had high employment when Bush was in office. The government did not put their hands in the private business sector. If she lists what Bush did she needs to bring it up to date on what Obama has done, which is a lot worse than anything Bush has done. Half a truth is a lie.
Report Post »Jim in Houston
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:16pmWhere does OweBlamer dredge up these idiots? Is there anyone in his administration with an IQ greater than single digits?
Report Post »IntransigentMind
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:46pmIt’s time to set this straight:
Report Post »http://markamerica.com/2011/09/22/the-other-side-of-class-warfare-taking-society-down/
Defends the TRUTH
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:59pmI’m so glad that the CRAZIES are talking….let it be known to ALL what they really are thinking!!! Keep it up Lefties…
Report Post »teaisstronger
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 1:12pmNo Government ever build a school, road or airport without working people. Ms Warren is one more example of the Democrat Party mass insanity. What chapter of Marx and Engles is Ms Warren quoting from. Is Harvard now granting college degrees in Stalinist Communism? I hope Warren keeps speaking about her communist theory so everyone hears what Liberalism is all about.
Report Post »ACLUHater
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 1:13pmLiberals are mentally retarded. They must all be on some serious drugs.
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 1:58pmThis lady is a pit bull dressed up to look like Marcia Brady … but she is nothing but a socialist tyrant!
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 2:01pmwho does Warren work for?
I think she needs a pink slip … real bad.
Report Post »vtxphantom
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 2:05pmThis parasite is from Harvard, the college of communism and leftist studies. She is a red herring. Red because she is a marxist and a herring because that is her maiden name. She is a carbon copy of obama. She hates this country. She believes this country has achieved its place in the world on the backs of others. This is why the country is in the shape it is in, and these are the people that should go back under the rock they crawled out from
Report Post »The Meem
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 2:56pm…” the rich didn’t do it all by themselves.” No, they just worked their asses off, and as they grew, they payed more and more taxes, property taxes, taxes on income, taxes on business property, employee taxes, on inventory and on and on. The taxes they paid helped pay for the road she said others paid for,
Report Post »for the schools that educate the people who work, and so on. The people who get money for sitting on their asses are the ones complaining about the rich not paying their fair share.
This woman is just another bitter, stupid, narrow minded lib.
For once, I wish someone who claims to be a lib and hates the rich, would be asked what kind of a country they want to live in when there are no rich, no factories, no work, just the government sorting it all out and given it away. Come on. Why don’t they understand that there is no money there until it is taken from the very people they hate.
El Diablo Heff
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:15pmHow ironic an unwritten social contract. Bout like everything else these bigoted racist people come up with. Unwritten means what is written is what is agreed upon. If you don’t like it you are free to go do it for yourself. I don’t need or want this woman to speak for me. I can speak for myself. An employer offers me to work in exchange for what I agree upon if I don‘t like it I look elsewhere after that I don’t owe a business owner and he doesn’t owe me because an agreement was already reached. Not only that but I am not the person to benefit from a risk the owner has taken unless it is part of the compensation for my work. It is the owner to benefit from the risk not me or my neighbor or the government.just because a politician has to make a promise to get elected rather do be good at their job.what nonsense.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:16pmriverdog1 posted:
“the link from viet vet: the exact same info has been used the last few days. its wrong. they give the rate of 29% for the rich as ALL taxes paid, personel, state, city, property and give the rate for middle income at 15% as only federal taxes.”
LMAO @ riverdog1, someone even more stupid than Warren.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:55pm(Repost)
Elizabeth Warren said:
“I hear all this, you know, ‘Well, this is class warfare, this is whatever. No. There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own — nobody.”
That’s a tautology. It’s functionally equivalent to saying “Nobody is able to trade on his own”.
And so what, right? You need people to trade with, but you only need to trade with people that actually have something to trade in return; and you don’t need to have a collective mentality in order to trade with people.
CollectivISM is not necessary for trading something, that is valuable to others, that you have produced; which is how people get wealthy.
Report Post »CLEttinger
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:58pmSocial contract? I dont remember signing a social contract with the government or anyone else.
Report Post »Xkiller
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:35pmShe’s kidding…right??? Imean how much help did Bill Gates get??? I’m sure some of the “old money” millionaires like the rockafellas and such didn’t do it on their own…right? With people like this idiot in the adminisrtation, no wonder things are so screwed up. Did she even TRY to think before she shot off her mouth?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:43pmTaxing based on income amount is discrimination. it is the same as taxing based on skin color, based on weight, based on age, or based on religion. It’s wrong to tax someone with $100 dollars more, a higher %, then taxing someone with $10. Government isn’t to decide who it sides with, Government is to treat us equal.
Our founders intended for us to be taxed apportioned and uniform. We were to be taxed equally. The PROGRESSIVE Income Tax Amendment voided the Founders apportioned and uniform and gave Government the power to tax however they want.
Someone needs to ask this woman and president Zero what the difference is in taxing by amount made and weight or skin color? We need to stand unified demanding we all are treated equal. Call out the discrimination. Stand in truth!
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:58pm@Okie from Muskogee
That’s exactly right Okie. The progressive tax system is a marxist system. Always has been. It‘s as unconstitutional as the 16th amendment that wasn’t raftified properly.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 8:16pmHi Okie,
Totally agree !!!!!!!
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:41amI’m loving the top photo of Ms. Warren where she seems to be showing her audience the approximate size of her brain.
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:05amviet,
The portions in quotes are from the article you posted.
“The 10 percent of households with the highest incomes pay more than half of all federal taxes. They pay more than 70 percent of federal income taxes, according to the Congressional Budget Office.”
They also own 70% of the countries wealth, so that stands to reason that they would pay more in taxes!
“This year, households making more than $1 million will pay an average of 29.1 percent of their income in federal taxes, including income taxes, payroll taxes and other taxes, according to the Tax Policy Center, a Washington think tank. ”
6% short of the top tax rate where they are supposed to be paying.
No matter how you slice it, it all boils back down to the fact that the middle and poorer classes spend a higher percentage of their salaries on living, and should receive more tax relief! The rich have enjoyed tax breaks and a lower tax rate for a long time, now the economy is in trouble and they act like bringing back the tax rates from the Clinton years is a travesty! They won’t be paying at that 39% tax rate anyway due to deductions, and loopholes! The middle class drives the economy. It’s hysterical to me to see so many brainwashed middle class cons fight the battle for the rich! LOL
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:37pmJimi Hendrix sang about girls like her, with tire tracks all across her back.
Report Post »cherokee3
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:36pmSomeone opens a business, hires some people to work for them, those working for the company or factory AGREE to pay terms and work requirements.
Report Post »Owner should make a profit, since they are taking a risk to begin with. Some business owners even share ownership or stakes in the business with the employees! Yes they do!
If you choose to work for a business that does not do that, you don’t have a right to complain about it.
No one OWES anyone else anything in this life.
The ‘have’s‘ do not owe the ’have not‘s’…charity and generosity ideally would take care of alot of problems for the ‘have not’s’. But no one is obligated to give, somehow the government has decided it will force the ‘have’s’ to give. It is WRONG!!
jzs
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:02pmspirit of freedom, that’s a great success story and I mean it.
But to the commie part. President Obama and Oprah Winfrey also were born dirt poor, raised by single mothers and were black to boot. And they’re liberals. So I don’t think you can extrapolate.
Report Post »WHoareyouanyway
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 5:22amCould you possibly make less sense?
Report Post »montanagf
Posted on October 4, 2011 at 5:15pmyou say,if they listen to what they say they will realize how stupid they sound .I say, if you read what you wrote and check out your grammer, you will realize……. Warren has years of economic advising and uses DATA to back up what she’s saying about the debate on our economic problems. You resort to name calling in the debate. I guess you have no data or logic to back you up?
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:29pmBecause factory owners pay NO EXCISE TAXES for the support of the roads that carry their materials, raw or finished, and NO PROPERTY TAXES for the support of the schools that (mis)educate its work force, and NO CORPORATE INCOME TAXES for the support of the armed forces that keep the factory safe… Oh… you mean they DO pay all those taxes and more?
Well, then I guess Elizabeth Warren is just full of $#!&.
Report Post »platitude
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:36pmshe also forgot to mention those who inherited wealth like romney.
Report Post »AwakenedGiant
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:37pmBingo!
Report Post »quicker
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:43pmOr marry into it like John Kerry.
Report Post »cologoddess
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:48pmWell said.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:48pmI was thinking the exact same thing.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:49pm… everything the Obama’s have was given to them. Any misfortunes in their lives are someboy else’s fault.
The Liberal Marxist mind is a waste of grey matter … Elizabeth Warren is an idiot.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:00pmElizabeth……………you are an idiot! The Business man pays for even more of his or her share of the use of the roads, etc. These forages into STEALING by these progressives/communists/liberals, must be stopped…………no matter the cost.
“To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association—the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.”
“God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty…. And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”
Report Post »ohblies
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:00pmAl Gore didn’t get rich on his own…..he ripped off countless numbers of people. So maybe Warren is partially correct? I wonder what kind of taxes ol’ Al paid? I completely agree with the comments about businesses paying taxes above and beyond income taxes. In Michigan, we have a personal property tax that charges us for every new machine or piece of furniture or tool we buy. And those tax dollars go to support local communities………for things like police, fire, roads, schools, and whatever else the city fathers want to spend it on.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:01pmScott Brown, is going down. (You won’t miss him, he’s a RINO. ;^)
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:01pmAnyone ever notice that EVERY progressive/liberal has the same ugly and maniacal look on their faces. They remind me of rabid dogs.
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:05pmLeave her alone – She is still a virgin if you can’t tell
Report Post »Im not saying she is lesbian or anything but she is a liberal an arch liberal.
TSUNAMI-22
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:09pm@ platitude
she also forgot to mention those who inherited wealth like romney.
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Don’t forget that inherited wealth was money already taxed once before it was saved by the deceased. Taxing it twice through “estate tax” is theft of property.
Sheepdog911
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:13pmI‘ll bet ya that the wealthy liberals would fight you for it if you showed up and told them that since they didn’t get wealthy on their own, it was yours to take. Nope, only unions get to show up and demand what others have earned.
Report Post »grandma7
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:15pmWell Missy Warren – Most of the wealthy dripped their own sweat. The roads belong to the people who are thrilled to see those goods traveling on our roads because it means jobs. People like this nutty lady, should be grateful to those wealthy bosses who hire the workforce – who then pay the taxes – that pay her salary.
As far as the $1T that she blames on Bush (who spent more than we’d like) – she needs to get her facts straight. It was the Democratics (especially her wonderful president – then senator who voted for all the mess) who ran the house & senate those last two years (when my 401K plummeted). I’m screaming at both sides who conveniently forget that Bush was GUILTY of not Vetoing enough socialist bills from the Dems. January/2006, my IRAs and 401K were at their peak – despite 9/11.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:17pmAdrian Pierce Rogers had it right all the way back in 1931.
“What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.” Adrian Rogers, 1931 “
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:20pmCall it what it is Warren … Obama’s Back Door Reparations
Report Post »Salamander
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:25pmHey, Elizabeth! Great logic! Where did you go to school? And, who else can use those roads? And who pays for the labor? etc. Hey, I have an idea! If you want a piece of THAT company, why don’t you buy some stock in it? See, in that way, YOU, TOO, can PARTICIPATE in CAPITALISM! Your IDEA TO HAVE GOVERNMENT TAKE FROM THAT COMPANY IN THE FORM OF TAXES ‘for the general welfare’ is SOCIALISM. Remember Jamestown and Plymouth? THEY found that socialism doesn’t accomplish what you want–BUT CAPITALISM DOES!!! Open your blind eyes and deaf ears and shut your pie hole and THINK, maybe for the first time in your life!!!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:32pmThe Koch brother’s attack dogs are out. Please tell me why the Joe Six -PAck Tea Party member is defendin the wealthy, at the expense of their own interests? Are the crumbs you beg for from the Wealthy’s table worth the lose of rights and the increase in burdens?
Report Post »spendthrift
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:35pmWealth comes in many forms, wanting a better life and doing better for yourself without government is one of them.
Report Post »pjgroff61
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:43pmOr like Barack Obama they could have worked for Tony Rezco, and made their millions
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:43pmExactly right Lesbian….she’s talking to the people she thinks are dumb enough to not recognize that those people pay the same fees and taxes. Further, most businesses and corporations give huge sums of money every year for the betterment of their communities. My state, which suffered bigtime property losses due to the spring and summer flooding received beaucoup money from the Corporations operating in the state. In fact, the telethon I watched, Halliburton gave the largest amount. One wingnut above (gawd for ignorance) is apparently used to propagandizing to the Choir, but it doesn’t work here, mentioned inherited money as if that’s where it all comes from (it just landed out of the sky to the orginal aquirers of the money anyway). Trying to pick up where the propagandist Warren left off. And while a small amount of the evil rich owe part of their wealth to inheritance, they are a small minority today. Not that the democraps haven’t strived hard over the years to rob these people (all families actually), via the Estate Tax.
http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2008/01/14/the-decline-of-inherited-money/
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:47pm@The10thAmendment
I think of it as ‘wild eyed’ lunacy. Caused I’m sure by their brains being short-circuited.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:48pm@10thamendment. And if Glenn Beck is the “Patriot” who waters the tree? Then maybe Bachman? Lots of fertilizer there!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:55pmSee how many roads you build and people you educate when the sign on the door reads ( Closed )
Report Post »Bete Noire
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:56pmOr takes it on the sly like Perry
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:07pmLes…..meant to click on your reply.
Report Post »geonj
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:19pmwell said
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:21pmDon’t stop there Hollow Points….salaries paid for by who? Municipal bonds and notes bought with free capital that pay for government projects and utilities, invested in by who? Schools paid for with who’s tax money? Without the most productive sector you wouldn’t have a fraction of the education, police and fire and infrastructure capital to pay for it and maintain it all. No entrepeneurship, no risk? No job, no salary, no roads, no cops, no firemen, no schools. Someone slap Warren on the back of the head and tell the idiot to stop saying “stuff” without thinking.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:29pm“[...] because of the work the rest of us did.”….and Elizabeth…would that work be there without the risk and the entrepeneurship of the business man? Better yet..would that salary be there? That school is paid for with tax dollars culled from the most productive sector Elizabeth. Without the growth of business, infrastructure, police/fire, education expenditure would be a trickle.
Report Post »And let’s not forget, the investor and the businessman spends some of his capital on investments like municipal bonds and notes which pay for government projects like airports, schools, roads, libraries..etc. Look at all the states losing police, teachers and firemen because they”ve gone broke due to excessive benefits for government workers that cannot be paid for. Business fleeing those states. Just print some more money Elizabeth? I don’t think so. Idiot.
The10thAmendment
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:40pm@ platitude
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:36pm
she also forgot to mention those who inherited wealth like romney.
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I perceive a lack of intellect in you. Well okay, it’s not a perception, it’s blatant obviousness. If you, me, or anyone else inherits wealth, what the hell is that to anyone else? It‘s nobody’s business but the family’s.
“To take from one because it is thought that his own industry ”and that of his father’s” has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association—the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.”
Report Post »TheBMT
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:56pmfrom RepubliCorp—
See how many roads you build and people you educate when the sign on the door reads ( Closed )
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Report Post »That is a perfect comeback.
meddlehead
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 9:12pm@LPHP Pardon me for sounding like Chris Matthews, but you screen name is giving me a tingle up my leg. Good post, BTW
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 9:31pm@encinom
I do not need to defend the wealthy, and do not really want to be wealthy myslef. Not all are capable of handling the big money. I have enough handling what i make. I learned long ago, if I do as I am supposed to, and pay my tithe, I end up find in the end. My Bible tells me that I will not go without food or clothes, and I have a whole lot more than just food and clothes, that makes me rich in my opinion.
I do not want “my share” of money I did not earn. If the rich man earned it, he can keep it. Being military, my pay check comes from the tax payers. that being said, I provide a service for you and the rest of those that pay taxes, and those that do not.
there is a need for taxes, and I would prefer that we all pay the same rate or a flat tax. I want highways, schools in the hands of the local and state gov, a strong military. I will provide my own healthcare, and if someone in my familys is in need, I help them. I do not want a gov system that rewards lazy behavior and imorality.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:10am@Meddle Head:
Report Post »Thanks… I think.
lets_be_honest
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 2:53amwow, you have a lot of bitterness. I’m not sure what your argument is supporting.
Report Post »Corporations don’t always pay taxes – that’s true. But their workers do pay taxes. The workers also shop in the local stores and buy goods, the workers eat at the local restaurants, the workers buy gasoline at the local 7-Eleven. the workers buy homes that need repairs. the list goes on.
cemerius
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:39am@LPHP You are absolutely correct!
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:46pmAs a marxist, which Warren certainly is, all non government jobs are illegitimate, the opposite of the Constitutional viewpoint of jobs (limited government). Thats why she doesn’t recognize the jobs produced by the businesses (factories) she is demonizing. When she says “the rest of us are providing”, most of “the rest of us” she’s talking about are getting the money enabling them to pay their taxes to support roads, education, etc., from jobs created by those very factories, businesses, corporations, etc., that she has so much antipathy for. Marxists want complete government usurpation of the private sector. If left to their own devices (if there was no oppositional republican party, or freedom loving citizens to withstrain them) they would nationalize every job in the country. That is their utopia. This is why they have such utter disdain for the private sector. This disdain for the private sector and capitalism is so intrinsic to their pathos that they can’t disguise it when speaking on the subject of economy, jobs, corporations, etc. Class warfare is as natural to them as breathing.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:59pm@ Viet Vet
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:46pm
As a marxist, which Warren certainly is.
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QFT (quoted for truth)
Joe Belleau
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:29pmWhat a fraud.
When was the last time someone built a factory here in the United States ?
The collectivist left is utterly delusion and their primitive superstitions have no place in America.
Report Post »platitude
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:35pmprimitive superstitions of the left? I think thats a projection there buddy.
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:50pmwhen she worked and bought a home did she give a room to one of the workers?
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:21pmI have only this to say, these people are liars, con artists, and just plain out of their minds!
Report Post »PatriotComeLately
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:22pmUmmmm, Joe, …..Solyndra on taxpayer money…..
Report Post »Laus Deo
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:04pmHello, Joe.
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:44amwell joe there is the boing plant and some car factories as well but you and rush, who has said it many times “outsourcing is a plank in the republican party”. god bless our rich overlords, please don’t hurt us.
Report Post »Firebrand
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:28pmThe problem is that those on the left think that the government allows you to keep as much of your money as you do. They believe that the money belongs to the government and you get to keep what they don’t need or feel like should be used in the way that they see fit. Do we needs taxes? Absolutely. The truth of the matter is that we allow them to take our money. It’s not they who allow us to keep it. In return for our money, they should ONLY provide necessities (security, settling state disputes, military and vet spending, etc.) Making sure an American citizen doesn’t starve? Yes, that’s money well spent. Making sure to buy someones food so that they can have internet and a computer? No, that is not money well spent, because it isn’t providing for a true need. My mother used to say that there is a difference between needs and wants and as long as I was alive I wouldn’t have to worry about needs. She would provide at whatever sacrifice because I was her child, but getting my wants was up to me. She gave me what I needed on both accounts. Just my two cents…
Report Post »freedomontheedge
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:18pmExactly!
Report Post »mr molotov cocktail
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:42pmthen let might be right….
Report Post »end all government protection of assets!
i would gladly live in that world…..
robber-barrens were shot in the face!
ARealCharliesAngel
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:28pm1) What is rich? (Someone making $45,000/year is “rich” to someone making $32,000/year)!
2) Are you an idiot on crack?! (Statistics & facts PROVE you wrong!!)
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:21pmNo, she’s on meth.
Report Post »Salamander
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:34amLet us not forget that, at her level in our Federal government, she was probably making $160,000 or so–easy money, paycheck guaranteed! I make about $24,000 and, frankly, it doesn’t quite pay the bills! To add me to his healthcare, My employer would have to pay another $18,000, yet I pay only $3,600 for my high-limit health insurance, plus all expenses for the first $3,000, so maybe $6,600 a year for ‘equivalence’! Last week, I had to work 14 hours on a Saturday to make my employer’s firm look good and get the job done–it just worked out that way! On Monday, two hours into my day, I was laid off for the rest of the day because of the Saturday ovetime! Okay, my boss is a little immature, wet behind the ears, running on inherited/family money! So what! He provides jobs for about 12 people, jobs that wouldn‘t be there if he hadn’t been born with a silver spoon in his mouth! Do I envy him? No! Should he pay more taxes? Probably not! Am I grateful to have ‘a job’ so that I can put food in my mouth? Yes! By the way, for every $1 I earn over $14,000, I have to return 50-cents to Social Security, AND for those months in which I have to do so, my son forfeits 1/2 my F.R.A. benefit, AND I have to pay tax on my ‘earnings’! Frankly, I think the $24,000 would make ends meet if it weren’t that I have to give back $1,500 for every $1,200 I make in those months AND I have to pay taxes on the $1,200, say about $180! So, it COSTS ME $480 more than I make each month
Report Post »AmericanPrideisAlive
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:28pmWhat about the guy laying on the couch that was too lazy to go get a job at the factory built by the “rich” man? Should we pay for him too?
Report Post »SHOWMESTATEGUY
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:37pmWe already do.
Report Post »Mr. Vitriol
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:02pmummm…let’s see. I don’t know the exact number, but I think it is like HALF of America doesn’t pay a damn dime in taxes because they get a big fat whopping tax return at the end of the year that nullifies anything they may have paid through gas tax, fed tax, food tax, etc. That included me up to a few years ago. Therefore, not only is the factory owner PAYING for HIS (I like how she mentions only the masculine form when she says “gets rich” part) factory, but HE is also paying for the road to his factory and then the food for the person without a job and for everything else. Mrs. Warren, cut the class warfare CRAP. Please, for my sake and the rest of us who have brains to think for ourselves.
Report Post »Kitsune
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:10pmOnly if he votes Democrat.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:27pmWhite House financial reform adviser ???
This is the ultimate disqualifier for ANY job.
How can this stooge walk away from the biggest financial disaster in the world and run for office?
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:40pmand you know what is scary, is she will have one heck of a chance in winning ,because of the left wing communist supporting unions.we better pray that the great people Massachusetts get out and vote,for their state and their freedom.and for the rest of our great country
Report Post »Y2kHoax61
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:27pmTypical liberal marxist. They never understand that it still requires an individual to come up with the idea and to choose to take the risk. I mean an individual could just as well decide to sit on their butt at home. The government has no right to confiscate an individuals private property (wealth) beyond the parameters of the US Constitution. Ms. Warren is wrong. Go Scott Brown!
Report Post »ezeewhiz
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:26pmThey do pay a big hunk my dear especially to the approx. 47% of so called Americans that pay naring a nickle towards the things you spewed about. But of course you just cant look into that mirror now can you?
Report Post »mrmikejohnson
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:26pm80% of millionaires in the US are self made millionaires. Democrats just can’t understand that hard work can lead to wealth. The teachers with million dollar pensions…… That’s another story.
Report Post »rjoco1
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:25pmHey lady, only 53% of the people are paying for it. Wake up you imbecile, you don’t think we paid for the roads, education etc.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:05pmThe other 47% own 2.5% of the nations wealth.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:26pmtifosa
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:05pm
The other 47% own 2.5% of the nations wealth.
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So what?
AvengerK
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:34pmOk TIFOSA…tell me why the least productive sector has 2% of the wealth? Hint..“least productive” will help you. By all means TIFOSA just give them your “wealth” and try to raise that percentage. Another hint…you’ll be just as poor and unproductive.
Report Post »MAProg
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:46amGotta love the thought process that because you are poor that you are unproductive and that your being poor is your own fault. Secondly, those people do pay taxes, as there are other forms of tax than just income tax.
Report Post »eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:25pmJust another typical obama democrat – they all sound alike, and they all smell the same.
Report Post »TPartyXpress
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:41pmThe smell is all too familiar. Let’s all have more BBQ pork courtesy of the leftist swine.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:14pmActually Lizzy….we wouldn’t have high growth in infrastructure and education without the growth of bussiness. The amounts of money corporations, businessmen and high earners pay in taxes allow that type of growth to take place. This is plain history, not speculation. They also pay taxes that keep those schools open that “educate” those children (we’ll ignore private schools for now). Additionally, the investor with free capital buys municipal bonds and notes. These fund airports, roads, hospitals, libraries, schools…the list is very large. Try keeping those going without the investor Lizzy.
Report Post »Furthermore Lizzy…those same corporations and higher earners pay the salaries of the workers who use those roads to go to work. Keep their homes, possessions and lives protected with police and fire agencies mostly paid for by the most productive sector. All because business pays a lot more dollars in taxes and pays the salaries of the rest who pay into the system. No entrepeneurship and risk? No taxes, no jobs, no salaries, no cops, no firemen, no schools, no roads. Think I’m kidding Lizzy? Look at all the laid off government workers in various states because the state has gone broke paying excessive benefits to government workers while business flees the state. No money around Lizzy. Just print some right?
So Lizzy…those cops, fireman, schools and roads don’t get, paid, supplied, clothed, housed, built and maintained on their own, someone pays for them.
BeyondFedup
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:25pmIn the words of Cheech or Chong, “Ain’t she a peach?”
Report Post »icareabouttheusa
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:41pmHa! Thats a Marxists peach…
Report Post »CatB
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:24pmWhat an idiot .. I mean really … they keep topping each other!
TEA!
Report Post »Netsurfer2
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:36pmYou so right! After all, why would any billionaire say that they need to pay more taxes and their secretary pays more than they do? Because they get more loop holes and their idea is to see the small millionaires pay more when they don’t! You know the drill… it’s always point the finger and run the system! It’s all about control, control, control… Progressives are always control freaks to where they think they know what’s good for you! The truth is, they don’t want you to drive your own car and take a bus, when they would never do such! They could care less about you and who you are, nor your education, nor your creativeness in life! If you say that you want to go to college while working, most employers would not hire you for fear you will jump to a better job somewhere else. These idiots want to control your every move in life, if not own you! You can’t control the educated.
TEA
Report Post »ronaldreaganthegreat
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:00amSpot on CatB!!!!
Report Post »Skiddrowe
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:24pm“You built a factory out there? Good for you. But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police-forces and fire-forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory — and hire someone to protect against this — because of the work the rest of us did.
The rest of us? My taxes payed for the roads, polices & firemen too! I also have to pay the property taxes for my factory… and payroll taxes, ssi, regulation fees (tax), licence fees (tax), sales taxes on purchases, and so on… BTW, What work did you do that specifically benefitted my factory?
Report Post »chips1
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:02pmShe has been a lot-lizzard too long. Time for her penicillan.
Report Post »SHOWMESTATEGUY
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:24pmThis is an example of dem lib thinking in it’s most pure form. Sounds a lot like communism thinking don’t you think?
Report Post »Old_Glory
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:40pmExactly. As an immigrant who moved here from a communist country, I saw what communism really entails. And for someone who has lived and witnessed its ramifications, I can tell you that all these liberals would eat their words if they were to come face to face with it and actually experience it here in US.
Report Post »Redscot
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:23pmOh brother is she an idiot.
Report Post »Theleftisda
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:22pmTypical left wing progressive communist talking points
Report Post »Laus Deo
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:28pmId-ee-utt. Don’t ask me to spell it out for you.
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:22pm“But part of the underlying social contract is, you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.”
Oddly, the factory builder ALSO paid as much (or more) in taxes as everyone else, and all those public services while they do contribute to the factory-builder, also educate and protect everyone else…
When the factory-builder takes a risk, puts his own money on the table and makes something out of what is around him, you say everyone should share in the success (pay it back), but if the community is truly a partner in the factory-building endeavor, will the community make the risk-taking factory-builder whole, or is it a one-way relationship?
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:34pmA sane reply.
Report Post »WILLIAM E.
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:20pmWow, what a smart lady. NOT !!
Report Post »woodyl1011fl
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:12pmThe idiot, moronic, ignorant and pavlovian democrat voters of the Peoples Socialist Republic of MA think she is real smart but then like Delaware the Marxist/Leninists/Stalinists/Maoists are the mainstream of the political culture of ignorance and corruption in all these east coast states and the westcoast is right there with them and alll are self-destructing.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:19pmWhen a government can provide all necessary services with a 10% tax but instead imposes a 15% or 20% tax that is oppression, theft & mismanagement.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:27pmExactly. Her statement is actually correct. But the application of that logic cannot extend to squandering resources on graft, croney capitalism, vote-buying, waste, fraud, abuse, etc.
Report Post »westtitus
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:18pmWhat the HECK does getting rich on your own and class warfar even have in common! What an idiot!
Report Post »platitude
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:49pmwhat about the guy who inherited the wealth his mommy and daddy chose to not pay their middle class workers? should we all pay for that lazy schmuck?
Report Post »platitude
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:54pmthe people making the class war allegations are basing their argument on a false pretense that all rich people are self made (i.e. they worked for it). trumps dadddy and romneys daddy and many others had daddy who were multimillionaires. they of coarse, like to pretend that theirs is a rags to riches story. people arent buying it anymore. you may as well say that the parisians were waging a class war against the hard working king louis the 16th.
there is the link
Report Post »Rabidconservative
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:34pmSo what if someone had parents who where successful and wanted to ensure their family are taken care of. They earned the damned money and can leave it to who ever in the hell they want to. People like you are full of envy, and hate against the very people that bust their butts to become wealthy. Again let me try to explain this to you. The person who left wealth to their heirs earned whatever they left to them, and you or anyone else have no right to a dime of it. If you want wealth get off your ass and build a business your self.
Report Post »STOPTHEPROGRESSIVES
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:19amPlatitude. You should change your handle to Foolatude.
Report Post »Matrix22
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 8:01pmWait Platitude, are you actually implying it’s somehow BAD to leave your family wealth and prosperity! HOLY CRAP you’re an idiot! I guess the Tides foundation, Ford Foundation, the Kennedy’s, etc. etc. should all be stripped of their money and they should force every child to start with nothing. How much is too much to give your children? On the other hand, Romney’s parents did force those middle class employees to work at their mutually agreed upon salaries while at gunpoint with no way of every leaving. So I guess I’m wrong, they don’t deserve to pass on their success to future generations.
Report Post »mml35
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:16pmwell lizzy, he paid into all of that to, what a stupid arguement commies
Report Post »avenger
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:22pmwhy bother..this progressive betch is beyond help…
Report Post »BeyondFedup
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:28pmYou are right, he has paid into everything. She is just another bat sheet crazy liberal.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 9:41pmNot only has the business owner paid into the system, he/she continues to pay taxes on transportation, raw product, communication and employee to name a few.
Report Post »MAProg
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:52amit’s not a “stupid agrument” because while he paid into it, many many more workers paied into it.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:13pmWell Elizabeth with that kind of logic I‘m sure you won’t mind if I come over to your house ,raid the fridge ,hang out on your couch in my underwear and watch the game . maybe order in a pizza ,dig through your purse to pay for it . Then when I get bored ,take your car out for a long drive, maybe roll it at high speed and leave it a smoldering pile of scrap metal along side the road. Just because my tax dollars paid your salary.
spirited
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:29pmROTFLMAO!
$^>“Pay it foward”
Report Post »BeyondFedup
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:29pmGood idea!
Report Post »ladykrystyna
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:29pmWouldn’t that make a great rally? We could gather up lots of people to show up at the houses of millionaires and billionaires who are behind Obama on the tax hike. Hey, Elizabeth Warren says that you used our money to help make your money, so we’re moving in.
Think that would go over well?
Probably not.
And that would make our point very very clear.
Crystal.
Report Post »netmail
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:12pmShe kind of looks like Hillary in this picture. That’s all I have to say about this story.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:15pmYou mean a hag . Yes she is a hag.
Report Post »Sleazy Hippo
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:18pmShe reminds me of Ayn Rand.
Report Post »SPOT_OF_TEA
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:23pmAll I see is evil.
Report Post »netmail
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 6:25pmYeah, the Dem women look ROUGH and the Dem men look like Harry Reid.
Report Post »whatisay
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 7:10pm@netmail
Actually, the men look like Ellen Degeneres.
Report Post »ImWatchingYouAll
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:20pmShe forgets that all those “goods made in the factory” were transported by trucks that pay a lot to USE those “taxpayer” roads.
Report Post »Gnostyk
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 2:36amHell, Sleazy, your inflatable woman reminds you of Ayn Rand.
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