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GOP Leaders Issue Defiant Statements as Emergency White House Debt Talks Get Underway

WASHINGTON (AP) — Prospects for a breakthrough in debt talks Saturday at the White House appeared dim as Republican leaders issued defiant statements ahead of their meeting with President Barack Obama.

A visibly irritated Obama on Friday summoned congressional leaders from both parties to find a way to raise the debt limit before an Aug. 2 deadline cuts off the government’s borrowing authority.

Neither House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, nor Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., seemed optimistic before the session with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.

“If the White House won’t get serious, we will,” Boehner’s office said. Boehner announced late Friday he was walking out of the negotiations.

GOP Leaders Issue Defiant Statements as Emergency White House Debt Talks Get Underway

The statement noted that Obama has said he wants an agreement that will take care of the problem through the November 2012 elections.

“It would be terribly unfortunate if the president was willing to veto a debt limit increase simply because its timing would not be ideal for his re-election campaign,” according to Boehner’s office.

McConnell said in a statement that it was “disappointing that the talks with the White House did not reach a favorable conclusion, and I appreciate the speaker insisting on reduced spending and opposing the president’s call for higher taxes on American families and job creators.”

At a hastily scheduled news conference Friday after Boehner’s announcement, Obama told reporters, “We have run out of time and they are going to have to explain to me how it is that we are going to avoid default.

Boehner accepted the invitation for Saturday’s meeting even while arguing that Obama bore the blame for the collapse.

“It’s the president who walked away from his agreement and demanded more money at the last minute,” Boehner said. “And the only way to get that extra revenue was to raise taxes.”

The political theater played out even as the deadline neared. Barring action by then, the Treasury will be unable to pay its bills. That could cause interest rates to rise, threaten the U.S. economic recovery and send shock waves around the globe.

The deadline pressure hasn’t seemed to bring the parties closer, even though they all insist they do not want a default.

For the first time since talks began, Obama declined to offer assurances that a default would be avoided, although moments later he said he was confident of that outcome.

Obama said Boehner left a deal on the table that was better for Republicans than for Democrats, with $2.6 trillion in cuts outweighing new tax revenue of $1.2 trillion. The president said he was losing confidence that the underlying deficit problems would be dealt with even if the borrowing limit rose.

“I’ve been left at the altar now a couple of times,” Obama said.

Still, aides on both sides said there was agreement on gradually raising the age of eligibility of Medicare from 65 to 67 for future beneficiaries, and slowing the increase in cost-of-living raises in Social Security checks.

Even by the recent standards of divided government, Boehner’s decision triggered an extraordinary evening Friday as the Democratic president and then the Republican speaker maneuvered for political position on this vital issue.

Unspoken, yet unmistakable in all the brinkmanship was the 2012 election campaign, still 18 months away, with the White House and both houses of Congress at stake.

Obama devoted his weekly radio and Internet address Saturday to the impasse and urged Republicans to make a deal.

“We can come together for the good of the country and reach a compromise. We can strengthen our economy and leave for our children a more secure future,” the president said. “Or we can issue insults and demands and ultimatums at each another, withdraw to our partisan corners and achieve nothing.”

Rep. Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas, pressed the Republicans‘ sharply opposing view in his party’s weekly address.

“If we’re going to avoid any type of default and downgrade – if we’re going to resume job creation in America – the president and his allies need to listen to the people and work with Republicans to cut up the credit cards once and for all,” he said.

Private, sometimes-secret negotiations had veered uncertainly for weeks, generating reports as late as Thursday that the two sides were possibly closing in on an agreement to slash spending. That triggered a revolt among Democrats who expressed fears the president was giving away too much in terms of cuts to Medicare and Social Security while getting too little by way of additional revenues.

Obama said his only requirement for an agreement was legislation that provides the Treasury enough borrowing authority to tide the government over through the 2012 election. Boehner said he had little interest in a short-term extension either.

Republican aides said Obama had upped his demand for higher taxes during the week. The aides said administration officials had tacitly agreed to $800 billion in new revenue over 10 years but that the White House backed away and wanted $400 billion more.

Aides said the two sides were not able to bridge their differences over the triggers designed to force Congress to enact both tax changes and cuts to Medicare and other benefit programs by early next year. Both sides also were apart on the size of cuts for Medicaid, the health care program for the poor and disabled.

Yet aides on both sides said the negotiations had yielded agreement for cuts of $250 billion from Medicare.

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  • Nucular Bush
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:18pm

    Does a credit downgrade surprise anybody? If your credit cards are maxed out and your income to debt ratio is too high doesn’t your credit score get lowered? The only way to raise your score is to lower your debt, not get more. Morons, friggin Morons. The people running this country are the same
    peace,love, woodstock bungholes I went to school with. While we were working our way through school, they were taking out loans that they probably never paid back thus writing the script for what is happening today.

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:31pm

      It will HURT if we are downgraded but in the LONG RUN it will be OK.

      The USA can go back to being a REPUBLIC (not an empire)

      and

      stop PAYING to save the world. Pull our troops out of Europe and Asia and the Middle East (900 military bases – GONE) and LET THEM WHO WE OWE OUR DEBT TO IN PART PROTECTING THEM) = pay for their OWN security.

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    • kurtnut
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:56pm

      Why in the hell have we not heard Boehner, the GOP leaders, or anyone other than talk radio hosts go into detail on how we would NOT default no matter what the Aug 2nd outcome is. They’ll have to be some tough cuts, but we WOULDN’T default! Why are we not hearing that in any statements?

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    • Jediusetheforce
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:31pm

      It might be too late peace loving fools. March on the white house(take out obambam) and overthrown the government..Let Freedom Ring!!!

       
    • jorge_washington
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:57pm

      “Does a credit downgrade surprise anybody? If your credit cards are maxed out and your income to debt ratio is too high doesn’t your credit score get lowered? The only way to raise your score is to lower your debt, not get more.”

      Many of the same congressmen today had no problem allowing Bush to raise the debt ceiling, 7 times while in office. Not only did the debt ceiling go up so did the deficit, national debt while the only that went down was the value of the American dollar.

      Now these same republicans have a problem raising the debt ceiling under a black man as president. We don’t have a spending problem, we have revenue problem. Tax cuts that weren’t paid for, wars that weren’t paid, prescription drugs that weren’t paid and now THE REPUBLICANS WANT THE WORKING CLASS, ELDERY AND THE POOR TO PAY WHILE THE RICH WALK AWAY FREE.

      HOW”S TAKING BACK “OUR” COUNTRY WORKING OUT FOR YOU?

      Questioning with BOLDNESS

       
    • AnnMarie
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:01pm

      I hope they stay strong and stick to reducing the spending. I have said before and say again, forget taxing the rich, try taxing the 50 percent who do not pay any taxes at all??? The Dems who are claiming that the Repub are throwing this country off a cliff need to throw water on themselves and wake up. Who have spent this country into the mess we have now…. and that includes 2 years of the Bush Adminstration. With all the commercials they have with throwing people off a cliff, there are several situations that can prove that they were the ones who made the cliff high and now there is no choice. If they got to continue to do what they were doing, they not only would have built the cliff but would have built a big enough one to throw everyone off!!

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    • BSdetector
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 6:15pm

      We have the power guys, keep the pressure on Boehner to stand strong against this tyrant and we may one day see our country restored to its former glory.
      It’ll be tough for a while, but we all know it‘s better than enslavement to the gov’t!

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    • skip59
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 7:16pm

      Since Congress can overide the Presidents veto..why don’t they..push it on through..without the Senate or Presidents approval..???…they have the power.

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    • thetreyman
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 7:47pm

      @skip59…the senate is part of congress. you have to get 2/3 in both chambers to override a presidential veto.

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    • grannylc
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 7:53pm

      “slowing the increase in cost-of-living raises in Social Security checks.” What cost-of-living? We haven’t had one in 2 years. How can they slow it down any more? Just asking.

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    • jorge_washington
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:40pm

      “Who have spent this country into the mess we have now….”

      That would be President Bush and the republicans.

      Bush enters office the US debt is $5.6 trillion
      Bush leaves office US debt is over $10 trillion

      Cutting taxes on the rich without paying for it.

      Two wars without paying for it.

      Prescription drug program without paying for it.

      $700 billion dollars to pail out banks (banks failed under Bush)

      $300 billion dollars to save the US auto industry (US auto industry failed under Bush)

      A 1.3 trillion dollar deficit left to President Obama

      HOW”S TAKING BACK “OUR” COUNTRY WORKING OUT FOR YOU?

      Questioning with BOLDNESS

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:21pm

      re : We don’t have a spending problem, we have revenue problem. Tax cuts that weren’t paid for, wars that weren’t paid, prescription drugs that weren’t paid and now THE REPUBLICANS WANT THE WORKING CLASS, ELDERY AND THE POOR TO PAY WHILE THE RICH WALK AWAY FREE.
      ****
      WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ALL FOOLS, “You don’t pay for taxcuts Any More than you have to pay somebody for NOT STEALING YOUR LUNCH !!!!!” That is, of course unless you’re dealing with a SCHOOL BULLY, or…..THE CHICAGO MOB’S PROTECTION RACKET !!!!
      Since when do the poor, elderly or working class, (Legally I probably qualify for all 3.) Pay when the don’t get to take someone elses money or run up bills and expect the rich to pay them. I’VE GOT AN IDEA, INSTEAD OF RAISING THE DEBT CEILING ALL THE TIME, LET’S JUST PASS A LAW, THAT {EVERY RICH PERSON{say over $500,000 per year] NEEDS TO GIVE A PRE-PAID CREDIT CARD FOR, 10% TO AT LEAST ONE POOR PERSON OF HIS CHOOSING EACH YEAR!} AS PART OF THAT LAW, WE ELIMINATE THE IRS, THE WELFARE SYSTEM, FOOD STAMPS, WIC, HEAD START, AND THEN MAKE A FLAT TAX A VOLUNTARY SYSTEM WITH SAY 6 1/2 % AT OVER $20,000. Imagine the salary savings, if the FBI was to add a small tax fraud dept. and all Fed workers at above depts. be required to work in the job market. Churches & individuals could handle charity. No need for a debt celiling Ever!

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    • Teaparty-grammy
      Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:25am

      What I do NOT understand is why the gutless Republicans in Congress are letting ODumber get away with this charade of sabotaging everything they propose, then going on TV and acting all pissed off and indignant about how the Republicans are “obstructing” their attempts to avert a crisis.

      He is setting them UP with these “negotiations”. Do they NOT understand this? What nobody is talking about–and this is another thing I do NOT understand about these gutless Republicans–is according to the Constitution, it is the PRESIDENT’S JOB to present a budget to Congress. Has he done that? NO! Essentially, he has dumped a policital hot potato that he does not want to deal with–and probably does not know HOW to deal wi9th, in Congress’ laps, then is pointing fingers at them for failing to do HIS job for him! What nerve! Why are they not calling him on this ploy?

      If I were a Republican in Congress, I would stand up and say for the record, “Excuse me, but it is the President’s job to present a budget to Congress. Where is his budget? And why is he expecting us to do HIS job?” I bet that would put a stop to a lot of this posturing and play-acting on ODumber’s part in a hell of a hurry! What I DON’T understand is why they have not done this?? Are they REALLY that stupid, or are they in it WITH him?

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  • FANGS
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:18pm

    Absolutely, No Tax increases. How much is Obama care Costing America Per Month? Does anyone know this amount? Then Cut every Socialist funding Program. Then Cut every Green energy Program. And that should balance out our Budget. America Is a Free Market, Capitolist Country And Obama is trying to Put Americans into Slavery.My Kids Will Not grow up into Government Controlled Communism (slavery). If Boehner Doesn’t Stop them. We The People Will. The Obama experiment is OVER.

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  • Viking64
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:18pm

    Who is this stupid liberal host “Bill Press” ?, most of the liberal stations have no body listening that went past sixth grade anyway? He is not good enough to even wash Boehner’s feet. There is a lot of anger in the US right now and most of it, is because our country is broke and the ones causing it ,care more about keeping power than they do about US citizens! Boehner is working with a nut!

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  • RepubliCorp
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:18pm

    You load sixteen tons, what do you get
    Another day older and deeper in debt
    Saint Peter don’t you call me ’cause I can’t go
    I owe my soul to the Government store

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    • USAMama
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:10pm

      You just made me smile, that song used to play on my dads radio station all the time when I was growing up :) He passed away 3 yrs ago, some days I think I‘m glad he didn’t live to see what is happening to this great country. It would have broke his heart. Besides he had a lot of health problems and probably would have been left to die once Obamacare kicked in, at least he got the care he needed and died comfortably.

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    • bmfh58
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 3:16pm

      This Song is so correct for this time as well as when it was written. I think i will find a to send it to the speaker.

      Thanks

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  • 264win
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:13pm

    FACTS:
    • Obama and the Democrats only wants to spend tax-payer money and grow government.
    • Obama and Democrats owned the presidency, House and Senate and never even had a budget or worried about the deficit.
    • Obama is in the white house entirely because he is black hew simply is not qualified to be president.
    • Obama’s presidency was many Americans proving once and for all that they are not racist and by putting this clown in the white house would finally prove that fact .

    Truth:
    • Obama is not worried about the deficit (due date August 2th) what he is worried about is missing his birthday party on August 3rd.

    President Obama is slated to celebrate his 50th birthday with a major fundraiser at Chicago’s historic Aragon Ballroom on August 3. A campaign official told CBS News that the campaign is moving forward with the event, though the White House says it could be cancelled if a deal is not reached on raising the debt limit by the August 2 deadline.

    The dick has been campaigning since he was elected in 2008 and has never stopped! Maybe in the end he will take the all the campaign money and move back to Kenya and be king!

    We sure don’t want him here.

     
  • LIBSALWAYSLIE
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:10pm

    “Hello, credid card company? I maxed out my credit card and cant pay my bills, so I just raised my credit own limit so I can go deeper in debt” This is what the democrats are doing. We the people didnt miss manage the collected taxes, the government did, no obama wants a “balanced” aproach and “shared sacrifice” No more from the people BO, NO MORE!

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:39pm

      Now there is a sense of urgency for the democrats. Why? They are about to run out of other people’s money to spend.
      No urgency to formulate and pass a budget for two years.
      This is a mess of their own creation. They ran the debt up since 2006, often without a budget in place. For several of those years they had both houses and still couldn’t pass a budget. They blame GWB, for deficit spending for Iraq and Afghanistan, yet did nothing to fund the wars through cutting spending elsewhere or raising revenue, which is the job of congress in their role of (mis)managing the purse. Why? Because they were busy spending money we did not have. Funding the wars would have meant no “new, new, new deal” or Obamacare. Even now, they will not reduce spending as it would bring up the specter of facing an empty wallet.

      Here is my gang of 1 plan.
      Lift the debt ceiling 1 Trillion until 1/1/2012. Provided real and immediate cuts to government spending are done now. On a 2 dollar cut for every dollar the ceiling is raised.
      Make him fight this battle right in the midst of the campaign season.
      Any “revenue enhancement” must be tied to passage of a balanced budget amendment and reform of the tax system that eliminates the IRS in favor of a flat or FAIR TAX. Any revenue increases must be applied to spending down the debt.
      Close US bases outside of the US and invest 1/2 the savings in carriers and “roll on roll off ships.
      All foreign aid to countries who do not support US polici

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  • Sam Brown
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:09pm

    They are putting on a great show but in the end the American people get screwed. Time to vote anyone out that votes yes on the raising of the debt.

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:16pm

      Don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater.

      Democrats LOVE it when the debt is raised.

      If Republicans boot Republicans out, then LIBERALS WIN.

      The House is ONLY ONE PART of THREE PARTS – with liberals controlling the senate and executive office.

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    • angelcat
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:53pm

      jack, can‘t get through since the speaker’s mailbox is full, so calling isn’t a good option as of 11:53 CST. We’llhave to email, I guess.

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    • USAMama
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:23pm

      I’m not for raising the debt ceiling but if we have to cut, cap and balance was the only logical solution. That WAS our compromise. They are the ones being obstructionists, THEY are the ones not willing to bend.

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  • Wilma
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:05pm

    Call Speaker Boehner’s office to show your support. Let him know we appreciate his efforts.

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:10pm

      Office of the Speaker
      H-232 The Capitol
      Washington, DC 20515
      Phone: (202) 225-0600
      Fax: (202) 225-5117

      Butler County
      Miami County
      Washington, D.C.

      Or

      7969 Cincinnati-Dayton Road
      Suite B
      West Chester, OH 45069
      (513) 779-5400
      tel (513) 779-5315 fax

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:11pm

      Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:52am

      Indeed, more and more I have become convinced Obama is deliberatly dragging this out so he can declare a default of the debt — or to make an ‘emergency executive fiat decree’ in which he allows himself to raise the limit and thus seize more power away from the Congress into his hands, where the Constitution clearly DOES NOT place it.
      ______________
      And to cancel the 2012 elections since he is trailing in the polls.

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  • georgeisn6
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:02pm

    if you can see Obummers ears he is lying.

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:08pm

      Obama’s ears get bigger when he lies.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:12pm

      Omama should ask Rev. Wright for guidance

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    • psst
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:04pm

      Jack 2011 said:”Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:08pm
      Obama’s ears get bigger when he lies.”
      —
      Umm. Obama IS All Ears.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:32pm

      And if you can see the veins in his face sticking out in a picture….he is vewwwwyy, vewwwyy, angwy! Hope he has his bp checked regularly.

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  • heavyduty
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:59am

    The Democrats are stalling until next week. Then Obama will just raise the debt limit on his own. He’s done a lot of things without Congress so why should this be any different?

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:21pm

      Don’t know if Obama has the Ba**s to ride that Tiger. The reaction from the Congress would be a firestorm, the charge of Unconstitutional would poison the relationship between the legislative and Executive. The press who be pushed hard, do they get behind the President or their friends in Congress either way will provide Political Drama for those of us sitting up in the peanut Gallery.

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:27pm

      If Obama seizes the power of civil war amendment designed to keep the Southern States from not paying their fair share of the war, Congress WILL DO NOTHING. Potted plants rarely do.

      Our Constitution is bit by bit by bit being eroded.

      Let the sheeple bow down to a NO WARRANT TSA (sky police) search at airports claiming big brother is keeping us safe but remember :

      “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

      This was written by Franklin, with quotation marks but almost certainly his original thought, sometime shortly before February 17, 1775

      +++++Ditto for allowing police to pull over a driver and DOWNLOAD every occupants CELL PHONE without a warrant which Michigan and California are doing.

      +++++Ditto for Obama and Bush declaring wars instead of CONGRESS DECLARING WAR. Congress should NOT be able to delegate the Constitution. .

      +++++Ditto for the police now taking pictures of peoples license plates WITHOUT A WARRANT and running them though data bases

      +++++Ditto for Florida to SELL Florida driver license information for millions of dollars AFTER FORCING those same drivers to get the license under threat of jail and then selling the information without their permission

      +++++Ditto for the police taking pictures of people‘s iris’ WITHOUT A WARRANT and running them though several databases and KEEPING the information in databases.

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    • Theleftisda
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:21pm

      @jack2011
      +++++Ditto for Obama and Bush declaring wars instead of CONGRESS DECLARING WAR. Congress should NOT be able to delegate the Constitution
      =============================================================================
      Bush did not declare war / congress did

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  • SPOT_OF_TEA
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:59am

    What would John Galt do?

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:13pm

      Better yet: What would Mitch Rapp do?

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    • gveazie
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:23pm

      He would walk away and let BHO kill himself politically. Vote him out in 2012!

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:42pm

      @ SPOT_OF_TEA
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:59am
      What would John Galt do?
      ***
      Aaaah, but it’s a New Era, “What would ‘Bonnie & Clyde” (Pelosi & Reid) do ???

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  • fatsomann
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:58am

    Hang in there Speaker Boehner. Do not give in to these domestic terrorists. Out of control debt and spending is criminal. We have been robbed by both parties long enough. The American people could not get away with this in their personal finances without the risk of fraud charges – running up a big bill with no intent to pay back. Our country’s financial crisis is immoral and criminal.

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    • SheriS
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:21pm

      The Dems are now paying for their lack of preparing and presenting a budget for the last few years. They spent us into oblivion with out a care! Wow! Guess they got caught and are now crying foul because of their own stupidity! I have realized in order to be a Democrat, you check your brain at the door or you are just stupid! You make that decision!

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:35pm

      How are the dems paying?

      The Sheeple voting population are NOT blaming Obama but the Republicans.

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  • RojBlake
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:58am

    Watching the debt negotiations..Dems 4, Repubs 1; where is everybody else. Did the Repubs snub Obama or did the POTUS just want overwhelming numbers to try to “cow” Boener?
    Obama, Biden, Reid, Pelosi, & Boener…this is a bipartisan negotiation?

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    • Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:09pm

      4 dems to one Republican, I say that is about right….. where are you watching them? There was a video that was released but other than that, have not seen nor heard anything…

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    • RojBlake
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:18pm

      I was watching the footage on FOX, I was wrong by the way, the camera angle didn’t show McConnel but he is there. Although Cantor should be there as well he‘s Pelosi’s “opposite number”.
      Obama’s trying to do the same thing Clinton did, the difference is that with Clinton it wasn’t nearly as “contrived” as this, & with the tableing of “Cut, Cap, & Balance” the real responsibility is with Reid in the Senate…the Senate could have debated & altered the bill, by tabeling it they ended any chance of having something done in time.
      Once again it’s “Never let a crisis go to waste”, & this time the fact that it is a manufactured crisis should be obvious to everyone. (Of course it won’t be, the MSM will spin it as the Repubs are irresponsible; even though the only “plans” that have been put forth is thiers)

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:52pm

      re : Obama, Biden, Reid, Pelosi, & Boener…this is a bipartisan negotiation?

      ***
      Works constantly in the Senat, Change the name of Boener to McCain or anyone in his crew.

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  • banjarmon
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:57am

    Cut TAX to a FLAT 15% for everybody. and a 0.01% sales tax. NO MORE NO LESS! Balence the BUDGET!!!..

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  • LadyLibertykicksASS
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:57am

    “Hang Tough”, Speaker Boehner. POTUS will Blink first!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:56am

    “We have run out of time and they are going to have to explain to me how it is that we are going to avoid default.”
    Hey Barry, I’ll explain it to you, since you’re obviously too dense to understand it. The debt limit increase must equal spending cuts and no tax increases for anyone. Was that so damned hard?

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:17pm

      Ya!….. We’re out of time!!!…..Why is that??
      The Dems had over 800 days to do something and didn’t. Now they critisize Reps for doing what is needed…….What a bunch of ignorant children…………………….

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:48pm

      NO damn it. No debt ceiling increase AT ALL. Service the debt and then prioritize with what you have left. “Cuts equal to debt increase”-jwhat the hell good is that going to do?

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  • woodswalking1
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:53am

    A leader would stand up and say “We must cut spending, not decrease the rate of growth of spending. I propose that we start by eliminating the department of Education. That will cover the shortfall for a little while. We will next eliminate the dept of energy.” Got it?

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  • Ziggy
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:53am

    I am glad to see that the Legislative branch leaders followed the orders of the executive branch leader. Now all that is necessary is that the Judicial branch leaders follow the next orders from the Executive branch to rule in the way that is dictated to be for the collective good of the masses.

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  • Pattondog
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:52am

    either way regardless of whos deal goes through assuming one does. we are still faced with a credit down grade. just like the stock market value of a company with a nitwit at the helm as the ceo. the stock tumbles with a lack of confidence.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:59pm

      @Pattondog
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:52am
      either way regardless of whos deal goes through assuming one does. we are still faced with a credit down grade. just like the stock market value of a company with a nitwit at the helm as the ceo. the stock tumbles with a lack of confidence
      ****
      Didn’t we all see that the day after election day 2008 ?

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  • loriann12
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:51am

    Yea, Obama, balls in your court. You know how much comes in. I have to budget my money based on income, and outgo. If my husband would happen to lose his job and we only had his military retirement to live on, I would have to chose what I pay. I would pay the essentials and not pay some that aren’t so essential. We would cut out FIOS and the home phone, since we have cell phones, not get our allowances, etc. I wouldn’t petition the government for more money since we are taking in less.

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:49am

    FINALLY, the GOP gets the courage to stand up to this tyrant! Tell it like it REALLY IS! Obama WANTS to stall these talks, trying to “turn the tide” away from the conservative momentum! He will still lose in 2012.

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    • DUMBASPELOSI
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:04pm

      Right On!

      Obama has manipulated the debate with NBC,CBS,ABC,CNN and MSNBC using deception and misrpresentation to distract, confuse and hide the reality of this situation.

      We’re here because of government spending. 80% of the problem is Democratic actions and agendas. The mortgage meltdown was set up by Democrats and ACORN. The waste in government is the result of Justice Department bias and the incest of both parties.

      There is no accountability in government when compared to the private sector. The waste in the federal budget is atleast 500 Billion per year – the duplication of agency services, the bloated salaries and the obscene benefits and pensions for public employees are all part of this problem.

      It’s time to cut spending now – endure the real and trumped up hardships in the next 2 years – and then courageously elect a new president – who loves America and understands the difference between spending money that we don’t have and spending money we do . . . without giving money away with no requirements or accountability (Welfare, Food Stamps, Unemployment).

      We need to have a safety net . . . that has limits, checks and audits, and requirements for personal responsibility.

      God Bless the people who hold the values of the Tea Party as a guide for future action.

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  • booger71
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:47am

    The Treasury Dept takes in close to 200 billion each and every month, and will be able to pay the “have to’s“ if ”I don’t pay my own taxes” Geitner will do it. The UN and 3rd world country give a ways will not get their money.

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    • Av8tor056
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:53am

      You’re thinking logically, stop that. The un and third world giveaways will be given out first. then the obummer vacation trip then the union payoffs, then democrat payoffs, then propaganda. Social security and medicare will not be paid and the admin will blame it on the republicans

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    • fatsomann
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:04pm

      Turbo Tax Timmy and Obama controlling the purse strings – not a warm fuzzy feeling. Thieves. And it will be on them. They will most certainly turn & blame their bad, deliberate decisions on the Conservatives and that the Conservatives made them do it…………..

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:06am

      @fatsomann
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:04pm
      Turbo Tax Timmy and Obama controlling the purse strings – not a warm fuzzy feeling. Thieves. And it will be on them.
      ***
      Did they really STOP ALL SWISS BANK ACCTS. OR JUST THOSE OF OTHERS?

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  • USMCSC
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:46am

    Waiting with “baited breath” – wonder where that expression came from? Buckle your seatbelts because we are in for a rough ride next week.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:52am

      Indeed, more and more I have become convinced Obama is deliberatly dragging this out so he can declare a default of the debt — or to make an ‘emergency executive fiat decree’ in which he allows himself to raise the limit and thus seize more power away from the Congress into his hands, where the Constitution clearly DOES NOT place it.

      The more I puzzle this out, the more I keep coming to the conclusion there is a final power grab being made ready; we may be within a week to 10 days of a true tyranny rising in the nation.

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    • CamoJan
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:05pm

      (This is interesting) From World Wide Words: http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-bai1.htm

      Q Where does the term baited breath come from, as in: ‘I am waiting with baited breath for your answer’?

      A The correct spelling is actually bated breath but it’s so common these days to see it written as baited breath that there’s every chance that it will soon become the usual form, to the disgust of conservative speakers and the confusion of dictionary writers. Examples in newspapers and magazines are legion; this one appeared in the Daily Mirror on 12 April 2003: “She hasn’t responded yet but Michael is waiting with baited breath”.

      It’s easy to mock, but there’s a real problem here. Bated and baited sound the same and we no longer use bated (let alone the verb to bate), outside this one set phrase, which has become an idiom. Confusion is almost inevitable. Bated here is a contraction of abated through loss of the unstressed first vowel (a process called aphesis); it means “reduced, lessened, lowered in force”. So bated breath refers to a state in which you almost stop breathing as a result of some strong emotion, such as terror or awe.

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    • Aggieboo_65
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:12pm

      Agreed!!

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 1:54pm

      I have only one question. Where the hell are our military? Didn’t they take an oath to defend this country against all enemies foreign and domestic? They are nothing but boot licking jar- heads and follow orders no matter what idiots. They are standing by as our country goes down the drain and they do NOTHING.

       
  • poverty.sucks
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:44am

    Zig Ziglar framed it best, you can never have a good deal with a bad guy (Obama).

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  • Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
    Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:40am

    woo hoo, we’re all saved, we’re all saved, woo hoo…

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