End of the Line for Ron Paul’s Insurgent Campaign
- Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:53am by
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Ron Paul’s plan for a delegate insurgency has reached the end of the line.
The Texas congressman won just two of Nebraska’s 35 delegates at the state party convention Saturday, dashing his final hope of having his name placed in contention for the Republican presidential nomination.
GOP rules require a candidate win a plurality of delegates in at least five states to have their name presented for nomination at the national convention. Nebraska, the last state to hold its convention, was Paul’s last chance to reach that threshold as part of his delegate-driven strategy. He was soundly beaten by presumptive nominee Mitt Romney, who won the other 33 delegates, the Omaha World Herald reported.
Paul’s loss means he will not be guaranteed a speaking slot at the convention in Tampa, Fla. next month, and will have to rely on Romney and convention organizers to grant him time instead. Paul said Friday he believes the Romney campaign is “insecure” about having him speak, possibly out of concern he would use it to rally his supporters.
According to ABC News, Paul’s campaign said it plans to bring about 500 supportive delegates to Tampa, guaranteeing his presence will still be felt. He is also planning to hold his own rally around Tampa, and his supporters have organized Paul Festival 2012, an independent event that will feature live music.
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Comments (901)
spudwhite
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:39amOh well, the powers that be be damned, I’m NOT voting for The-Lesser-Of-Two-Evils Romney, I’m STILL voting for Modern-Day-George-Washington Ron Paul.
Report Post »Ron Paul 2012
M13
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:44amAnother vote for Obama, good for you.
Report Post »Want our country back
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:48amAs of now, you still have that right…. give obama 4 more years and you won’t have the right to vote PERIOD.
GOP2012
Report Post »fldammy
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:49amIt’s your fault we got Romney. The NWO supported Ron Paul to make sure the GOP did not nominate a real conservative. Now you want us to suffer under Obama by not voting? You sir, are no patriot.
Report Post »applehill
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:49amI plan on voting for the lesser of the two evils. I was and am a Ron Paul supporter. The current administration is just way out of control. I would like to see at least try to slow the bleeding of our liberties. We need to convince the rest of the United States that they are in fact supporters of socialism, even if it’s a lesser form.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:50amThe end of the campaign will be when Romney is officially nominated. Ron Paul has said this from day 1. I am shocked that theblaze writers still do not get it
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:52amComrade Obama says ” thanks, dummy .”
Report Post »Minarchian
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:53am“Another vote for Obama, good for you.”
Oh look
Another Rombat who thinks there’s a difference between Romney and Obama.
Independent thinkers will feel sorrow for our country when either one wins and lambaste people like you who fell for the lies.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:55amRomney is the greater evil lol
Report Post »football lady
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:56amWhat a childish attidtude! So you want Obama back for 4 years? RP will be so proud of supporters like you. NOT
Report Post »Deibido
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:00amIt’s actually Rand Paul that is the newest incarnation of old George! Check-it!
Report Post »historyguy48
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:01amComrade if you do what you are planning to do then you had better begin using the correct language. First, every comment should begin with the word “comrade” to show that you are a member of the proletariat and not an elitest capitalist pig, like I am!
Report Post »Then you must always use Dear Leader when referring to Dear Leader so you will show proper respect to that big eared piece of excrement!
Finally you should shake your head firmly so you can re-arrange the rocks up there!
Oh yes, at least Romney isn’t a Communist, but the guy you are voting for by wasting your vote, certainly is!
But it’s your ball, so take it and go home!
ktmrider1
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:03amchalk up another vote for obummer way to go spud
Report Post »AUsername
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:08amgood, we don’t want Romney and his cult being the laws of our land.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:10amB’bye Ron Paul. Not everyone can get what they want. Now call off the hounds, they’re too damn annoying.
Report Post »mark81150
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:15amYou Paulites are just a waste of everyones time.. like Naderites and Greens, so convinced of your own moral superiority, you can’t deal with the plain fact, you lost every primary.
You are unpopular, disliked, and unelectable.. how many elections must you Paulites loose before that sinks in?
People don’t like pure libertarian politics, never have.. they can have an influence, but no one trusts someone like Paul to lead, In fact I detest the man, virtually as much as Obama..He’s only a loveable curmudgeon to his devoted fans, to the rest of us, a hateful old bast*rd who blames America for 911
Have fun being irrelevant.. we’ll beat Obama without you..
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:17am@M13 A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama..There is not one difference..Both are schills for the Federal Reserve and they both support the same issues..the ones who do not have minds of their own are the ones following the same pattern..,So Good for YOU!!!
Report Post »FlamingFartSyndrome
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:20amPeople who say a vote for Paul is a vote for Obama are the people who allowed democracy to die.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:26am@FOOTBALL LADY..Really? Can you tell us one differerence between Romney and Obama? So then I would ask you..Are you racist?
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:29am@spudwhite
Report Post »So you won’t vote for the lesser of two evils, you’ll vote for the greater of two evils. Now, that one deserves the idiot of the century award.
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:29amMARK. Well said…. well said.
Report Post »TiocFaidhArLa
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:30amlol M13 “if you don’t vote for my liberal republican, you shouldnt vote” what a loser! Vote that progressive romney into office!
Report Post »TROONORTH
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:30amAmerican Conservatives had better rally around Mitt or you will have another four years of the worst president in history. You had better ask yourselves the question; “Which is worse; a ‘pink’ conservative or four more years of that foolish, dangerous man in the White House?”. It is time to put aside your differences and vote to get Ossama out of Washington before there is nothing left of your constitution or your nation.
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:34amThis regime needs to be OUT. Don’t fall for that crap of the “lesser of two evils”, Romney won, now it’s time to support him %110. He wasn’t my first choice either, but anything or anybody is way better than Obama. Vote in November, your country is in crisis.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:34amI’ve written a song in remembrance of the Ron Paul campaign. It goes like this…
♪ Zzzzzz….Zzzz….♫
Report Post »burnteye86
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:41amSo you will allow the more of two evils to remain in office huh? Nice.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:44am@MARK8150 Professional killer are you?
Report Post »Itsnakemo
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:46amRon Paul is my only choice and I will use my freedom to choose.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:46am4 years or 8? Collapse through social justice or war? With the people Romney is surrounding himself with, known lying war criminals… p*ss on that draft dodging sack of turds. Obama is the lesser of two evils at this point and that’s beyond sad. Nope I’ll never vote for anything other than our sovereignty, the just war theory, freedom and our constitution. Whatever happens is on you all.
Report Post »WakingSheep
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:47amRomney supports:
NDAA, FED, The Patriot Act, UN, Romneycare, Assault Rifle ban, foreign aid, washington money, undeclared WARS, BIG GOVERNMENT.
Is that of the people, by the people, for the people?
Ron Paul Supports:
The Constitution, Individualism, if needed; DECLARED WARS, free markets, sound currency, small localized governments (states), Liberty.
And they called the campaign insurgent?! Call us what you want but from what I’m seeing; the BIG R‘s and BIG D’s are heading in the same direction. MORE BIG CENTRAL GOVERNMENT.
“I don’t believe Congress should oversee the Federal Reserve”
Report Post »-President Mittens-
SilverBlaze
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:50amStupid idea, that is vote for Obama.
Report Post »Captain77
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:58amM13, you’re an idiot. Its due to voting for the lesser of two evils for generations that we find ourselves in the situation that we are in. Think about it, the best the GOP has to offer for a presidential candidate is someone who has flip flopped on just about every issue that is important to “conservatives”. The best the GOP has to offer supports legislation that empowers the president with the tyrannical powers of arresting, detaining indefinately, even assassinating U.S. Citizens without charge or trial or even allowing legal representation. The best the GOP has to offer created the legislation Obama based his Affordable Health Care Act (ObamaCare) off of. Spudwhite isn’t voting for Obama, he’s refusing to vote for someone who is an offense to the constitution, unlike you.
Report Post »Neils60
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:16amSenator Rand Paul has made it clear that he’s voting for the only man that he supports as our next president, Mitt Romney. Rand has made it clear that he‘s voting for America’s success!
Report Post »mrsuperpat
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:22amAlot could still happen until Tampa. Romney could get mired in some controversy that would effectively end his campaign. The O team will be digging up the dirt, maybe even a gay lover. LMFAO!!!
Report Post »Wiggyky
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:22amYup another “Obama Hindlicker”
Anyone who votes for any other candidate, including Mickey Mouse, or stays at home and not vote is a guaranteed vote for Obama. If you do don’t call yourselves American.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:39amFlamingFartSyndrome
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:20am
People who say a vote for Paul is a vote for Obama are the people who allowed democracy to die.
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Yeah….think about that when Romney’s government-run healthcare replaces Obamacare:
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Report Post »Romney on Obamacare in 2010: Let’s “repeal the bad and keep the good”
Simonne
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:46amYou will be an Obama voter for sure. Don‘t tell me that Romney is the same as Obama because he isn’t. He won’t spend like Obama & he respects our religious beliefs. If Obama is re-elected, just don’t complain.
Report Post »jdog777
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:51ami wouldnt go as far as calling him George Washington…. but I will say he is a Constitutionalist. You have a right to vote for him, though it will increase Obama’s chances of winning. Vote your conscience in the Primary…. but in the General election I would ask you to help turn the ship around and vote against Obama.
Report Post »jdog777
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:53amYour vote should be to buy time. Romney will buy us more time.
Report Post »Leetron
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:57amYour naïveté is breathtaking…and quite foolish. A vote for an UNELECTABLE candidate is a vote for Obama…enjoy your kool-aid and the further demise of this country.
Report Post »ozz
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:58amI will be voting for Ron Paul. When the republic falls and I’m laying in a pool of my own blood, at least I will pass on knowing I did not vote for the tyrant that tried to steal my liberty and took my life instead. Those that have not figured out that ROMBOY and OBAMY are the same candidate because they are owned by the same master will get the tyranny they deserve.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:00pmSoybomb
Report Post »You have shown tremendous insight except for this ONE issue. First step, get rid of Obama, Holder, Napalitano, Sebelius et al. Next step, hold Romney to a conservative small government standard. 3rd step, use these next 4 years to mainstream libertarianism. We should audit the fed, reform taxes and entitlements within this next four year period. That would set the stage for a 4th step within the decade. Remember, the left worked for 100 years to get us here as we are now.
dmerwin
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:02pmNow Ron needs to take the high road and verbally endorse Romney.
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:06pm@SPUDWHITE … Your vote will guarantee no repeal of Obamacare and higher taxes on everyone. Four more years of Obama guarantees the destruction of our individual, family, community, and states rights. Lady Liberty will gasp her last breath of air in November, which is not what you want.
With a strong conservative/libertarian Congress and Supreme Court, Romney will do the right thing. Obama will only use his power of veto, fill the courts with more radicals, and CONTINUE to instruct Homeland Security, EPA, FCC, FDA, Federal Reserve, HHS, etc, etc. to do all his dirty work. He’s already using these thugs to change America, and with 4 more years, we the people will NEVER get our country back.
Use your head not your heart Spud … You know a Ron Paul vote is a dead vote and is the same as voting for Fuhrer Obama. As a mother, I beg you to please protect my children and grandchildren from living under communist Obama rule.
Americans are counting on Ron Paul supporters to kick Obama out of office. Even Ron Paul has stated that Romney is a much better choice than Obama. I know it’s tough, but if you can’t emotionally handle voting FOR Romney, then find the courage to do the right thing for America by casting a Romney vote AGAINST Obama.
Report Post »Taldren
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:13pm>> Another vote for Obama, good for you. <<
No, a vote for C is not a vote for B even if A loses.
If Romney loses blame Romney for not motivating the 55% of Republicans that sit at home on voting day. Not the people that a different candidate successfully motivated to vote for them.
It really amazes me that you abusers of fellow republicans that have spent months taking potshots at Ron Paul supporters now demand their support. You burned that bridge yourselves and now you want to blame them for your actions. Congrats.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:38pmDear Ron Paul..I would like you to know that in the spirit of Andrew Jackson..James Garfield..Abraham Lincoln..John F Kennedy..and Bobby Kennedy..I appreciate your efforts and your bravery in standing up against the evil men who from since the founding or our country have seeked and succeeded in gaining full contol..as they did in Russia..in Germany..and in Palestine..and who have been out to establish an Old World Order callled the NWO/COMMUNISM.. I am quite sure that I do not speak for myself alone.. May God Bless you sir.. Thank you from the bottom of my heart., Sir, .for giving us one last glimpse at freedom.. I assure you that it did not go unnoticed..
Report Post »mayihelpyou
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:40pm“Another Rombat who thinks there’s a difference between Romney and Obama”
Report Post »Another fool who thinks there isn’t. What catchy moniker shall I give you? Got it! DUMBA$$
bdonahoo602
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:40pm@ M13: It may be another vote for Obama but maybe the Republican base will take the Libertarian wing of the party more seriously next election instead of calling us all crazy. I’ll be voting for Ron Paul as well. Romney won’t do any better than Obama. They are one in the same, just wearing different masks.
Report Post »FlamingFartSyndrome
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:45pmOnly thing Romney will do as President is guarantee a liberal president the nomination for 2016 – 2024
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:49pm@ALL WHO DIDN”T HAVE ROMNEY AS THEIR FIRST CHOICE and if there are any who did .lol Here is how us Ron Paul supporters feel..
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Khyh6xsSs&feature=g-all-lik
CapitalismWorks
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:58pmYour frustration is understandable. I’ve been where you are. I voted for Ross Perot. Remember how that election ended?
There were several other candidates I also would have chosen before Romney.
Bill O’Reilly has no clue how severely he damaged his own judgement and credibility by supporting Romney so strongly.
Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:01pmAny form of tyranny, even if small is still tyranny. Why not make a statement that you won’t stand for any of it? Even if it’s coming from the GOP. Dems and GOP are one in the same. Keep this cycle of “lesser of the two evils” and you will never have freedom. Those who want freedom don’t ask, they just take it.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:01pm@SOYBOMB315
The campaign wasn’t just for the role of President. It’s a campaign to awaken Americans. It’s a campaign to restore our freedoms and to return to Constitutional Government.
Whether or not Ron Paul becomes president, it is not the end of the road of the movement that was started. Ron Paul supporters are no longer just Ron Paul supporters. We are the fighters of freedom, the fighters against tyranny of the two party system. More of us are becoming active in politics, more of us will influence the nation.
“[...] and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. [...]”
Putting Romney into office is just another layer of allowing the evils to be sufferable, at least for one more election cycle, right? Then we can REALLY make some changes to correct our path, RIGHT? 2016! Then we‘ll actually elect someone who’ll REALLY fix things! No wait, we may have to wait until 2020….2024…2028….. when are we going to abolish the forms for which we are accustomed, the form to which have created OUR ENTIRE MESS that we live in today? It’s not about Left vs Right. It’s not about Liberal vs Conservatives, Democrat vs Republicans. It’s about freedom.
I will not quit. Whether it’s President Paul, President Obama or President Romney who is inaugurated in 2013 revolution is brewing. What side of that revolution will yo
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:09pmJDOG777
” [...] help turn the ship around and vote against Obama.”
That’s making a huge assumption that Romney is capable or willing to actually TURN the ship around, which he has not even come close to demonstrating. What exactly has he presented as actual plans to turn the ship around? He doesn’t have any real solid plan, outside of riding the “ABO” crowd. We got Obama from the “Anyone But Bush” mentality, you think this is still the best method of finding the leader of our nation?
Core principle. Honestly. The United States Constitution. Freedom. That’s who I look for in a President. Ron Paul fit the bill, I may not have agreed with him 100%, but I agreed with more of his core principles than I ever have with any other candidate AND he had a 30 year track record to back it up, so I know that what he says is what he’ll do.
Flip Flop Romney, do you really believe that out of all the flip flopping he’s done, that he won’t flip flop from his campaign rhetoric like every other presidential candidate has done…. for a very long time….? How can you trust a flip flopper to keep his word, and the fact that his word is so…. vague, how can you trust that he will actually turn this ship around?
I’m not buying it. I will be voting on principle. Not for the lesser of the two evils.
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:10pm@JUSTANGRY … Maybe you’re right. Ron Paul may have been our best chance to save America, and we may have blown it. However, our country has a process for selecting nominees, Paul gave it his all and lost pretty significantly. We’re now down to two – Romney and Obama.
We may not like our two choices, but Obama has openly stated his desire for America to be just another country in the New World Order. Can you honestly tell me you‘re prepared to give up everything you’ve worked hard to earn to corrupt governments in other countries?
I’m a Texan and very disturbed by Democrats trying to disenfranchise honest legal voters like you and me. They’re giving special interest groups and illegals an open invitation to stuff our ballot boxes and raise our family members from graves, so they can win the election for Obama and other Democrats. This makes me uncomfortable, and I would assume, being a principled individual as yourself, you’re uncomfortable with this activity as well. Whether we like Romney or not, he’s the better choice, and our common sense must prevail to prevent Obama from having 4 more years to destroy our country.
With Romney in office, all will not be lost. I believe Conservatives and Libertarians will flood Congress this year, and they better use the opportunity to educate Americans. With Americans better educated, Ron Paul supporters can look forward to future elections (perhaps with Judge Napolitano as their candidate.)
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:12pmmark81150
I blame the military industerial complex for 911. I blame the NWO for 911. And you are complicit with the NWO every second you defend usless wars and nation building.
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:12pm@WAKING SHEEP
I suggest you make the same list for Obama. Put it up next to Romney then make a choice. You need to make a common sense choice instead of spitting against the wind.
Report Post »joiseycop
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:13pmYou PaulBOTS are not Republicans and you are NOT Conservatives…stop portraying yourselves as such!! You have no place in the Conservative movement…NONE!!! So stop saying you are…ok??? If you wanted the good Dr. to be respected at the Republican Convention maybe some civility would have helped…you are nasty, lying, demeaning, rude, and everything Conservatives are NOT! I for one hope the good Dr isn’t allowed into the building…I certainly don’t want to hear him rant on legalizing Drugs, Allowing Iran to have Nukes, and avowing Gender based abortions…you have PO’d off the good Conservatives… but we’ve had it with you all…just go away…vote for the Loon. Stick with your party.. the Libertarian party…again…you are not Republicans and certainly not conservative!
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:18pmObama is a socialist, and everyone really knows this to be true… except O’Reilly. Romney is a socialist-lite and hides it well. We’ll see no change, period.
Report Post »Too_Far_Gone
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:19pmCan’t fix stupid ..
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:24pmAnother Vote For Obama! All of you blind sheep are going to be greatly disappointed in November when Obama does win a second term, but it will not be the fault of Ron Paul supporters, it will be yours. You people who just go along with the flow because you are afraid of losing your possessions. Materialistic bunch of whine babies if you ask me. You all come on here and berate Obama and grasp at straws to find someone to defeat him. We Paul supporters do not berate Obama so much because it is not Obamas fault he is POTUS, it is all oj=f your fault he is POTUS. You either voted for him in ‘08 or you nominated McCain as the Republican nominee. Either way you are to blame, and by nominating Romney, you will be to blame again. It is not like we have not told you what we are going to do. Some of us will vote for Johnson, some for Virgil Goode, some, like myself, will write in Pauls name. Romney cannot win without us, therefore, you all have made a poor decision as Paul would have won by a landslide. So on election day when you are drinking yourself into oblivion because you realize that your vote was wasted, think of me saying; “I told you so.”
Report Post »Here is a good clip of a great comedian talking about the vote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efKguI0NFek
West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:32pmMy next order of business is to continue to talk to Ron Paul supporters and ensure they do not vote for Romney. You can say what you want about me as it falls on deaf ears to the traitors as most of you that post on here. Yes, I said traitors, traitors to the Constitution. I was a traitor in the past for voting for Bush and McCain, I will not be a traitor again, and I will ensure that Paul supporters do not become traitors but encourage them to continue to be Patriots and not fear the future. The future holds a dark period that must be before we will have the chance to regain our liberties. The people must be woke up, but it is a lot like an alcoholic, they must lose everything before they can be woke up. So be it.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:33pmRon Paul is a decent guy, but had too many far out issues that weren’t best for America.
For those who will still write in a vote for Paul, I‘m sorry you’ll be wasting it and giving your vote, by proxy to Obama, the communist-in-chief per many current articles.
OBAMA is the Problem===============ROMNEY is the Solution
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:36pmModern day George Washington… YOU ARE INSANE Paul is a fraud and has you all fooled. I know cashier at a supermarket that talks the Constitution all the time are they POTUS material too?
Actually its quite insulting to make that comparison Paul is a hardcore libertarian a hash mark from anarchy… if he is so much like the Founders then how come they chose to make the nation a Republic and not a libertarian state?
By you not voting or writing in Paul you are ineffect voting for Obama. every single time you post RP 2012 you are campaoning for Obama. If you RP people torpedo this election handing BHO a 2nd term I and many like me will make sure to let all the people enrged know you RP people are responsible for splitting the vote.
Report Post »1992 Ross Perot ran and split GOP vote in Favor of Clinton
2000 Ralph Nader ran split DNC vote in Favor of Bush
2012—– REALLY you guys want 4 more years of Obama?
jsciai
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:37pmSoybean, jus tangy, west coast patrot, igitvidualism, bro. winston, ashestoasses, etc.
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Well, anyway, guys, see you at the convention.
Romney 2012
The-Monk
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:38pm@Dr Paul Supporters
Do you think Dr Paul will endorse Romney? Seriously, I’m not trying to be sarcastic.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:38pmjoiseycop
Go slap around some women ok? Feel powerful. Feel like you have a say in the government. You fools who bash a liberty candidate are going to see what us “tin foil” hatters were talking about real soon. They are going to stage a false flag, then blame conservative good ol boy libertarians who agree with Paul. Then some idiot cop like you will be there like boss hog. We already live in a soft tyranny, some we will be in a hot tyranny. And Ron Paul MIGHT have been our way out. I only want wants best for America. What TIME does not understand about legal drugs use is the free market. When you make it illegal you drive up the price, when you drive up the price you have criminals who sell it, when criminals are making money they are using guns and violence to ruin our communitys. If drugs were legal you would take the dealer out of the picture. All that money could benfit the tax payyers. We could make drug users look like fools. We could curb our gang problem. But neocons(yes you are truely neocons) like TIME hear legal drugs and he flashes back to the 60s were all those hippys were calling him a baby killer, and hes just never let that go. Hopefully people who think like that will become less and less and a clear arguement can be waged on both sides, instead of all this name calling and liberty bashing.
Peace neocons,
You want Mittens?
Report Post »YOU GOT IT.
soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:48pm@the-monk
I would be completely shocked if Ron Paul endorsed Mitt Romney. Ron Paul endorsed the Constitution Party candidate in 2008, and that was knowing that he still had an upcoming re-election campaign and possibly presidential campaign…..Now, Ron Paul is retiring and has NOTHING to hold him back. I fully expect him to endorse Gary Johnson, UNLESS the republicans do a 180 and accept a lot of his ideas. Approving the upcoming Audit the Fed bill would be a good start.
But i dont think establishment GOP will tolerate those things – so 3rd party here we come
Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:49pm@WESTCOAST
I won’t sell out. I accept zero tyranny over “less” tyranny. It doesn’t matter if Romney is ‘not as bad’, keeping up with this attitude got us BO and will continue to destroy us.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:49pmAs someone said last night,
Continue to bash Paul supporters and we wont vote for him. Then when he (mittens) looses the election YALL CAN BLAME PAUL SUPPORTERS. But yet if he does win all of yall will say WE DIDNT NEED THOSE KOOKS ANYWAY. So go to hell and have fun taking the whole country with you.
This is out ballot choice
Goldman Sachs Obama?
Goldman Sach Rommney?
Lol for real? You think you choose rommney?
HAHAHAHAHAH
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:57pmJSCIAI, You show your childish mentality with this post and that shows why you are all following the establishment, you are children that do not understand anything about our Constitution. You are more like this so-called Tea Party candidate that was elected in 2010 in AZ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U46MkU_-_wE&feature=youtu.be
Report Post »This Congressman thinks we need to not stand by the Constitution, but should let the Constitution take a backseat because he thinks that 50% of the people do not believe in the Constitution? People of AZ, remember this Congressman, Paul Gosar, AZ District 1. Vote this traitor out the next time he is up for re-election. Spread this far and wide.
This is the mindset of all the Fake Republicans that post here.
American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:58pm@JOISEYCOP
“You have no place in the Conservative movement…NONE!!! ”
So you are fine with having a solid… say 20% of the Republican base to leave and vote Libertarian or Constitution Party? And you still have hopes that Republicans can win without [i]ndependents? You marginalize us and our contribution at your own peril.
“[...] you are nasty, lying, demeaning, rude, and everything Conservatives are NOT! ”
“[...] lying [...]“ ”avowing Gender based abortions…”
“[...] demeaning, rude [...]“ ”vote for the Loon.”
Are you a Conservative?
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:02pm@THE-MONK
“Do you think Dr Paul will endorse Romney? Seriously, I’m not trying to be sarcastic.”
No, he will not. If he does, he will lose me as a supporter. I do not support him because his name is Ron Paul but because of his principles and conviction towards Constitutional freedom. If he compromises on those core principles, he is no longer on my list. I will then vote for the next best option and that is the Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:02pmSpudwhite. you are acting poorly and stupidly if you continue.
You may become a subject or part of a collective if Obama is re-elected.
That is fine if you are bold enough to bear arms to protect your liberties and your neighbors liberties, but I doubt it. You talk tough but I think you are just a plant to corrupt the electorate.
It is to bad about Ron Paul. I respect him and his ideas greatly.
Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:02pm@BMARTIN1776
This is much bigger than getting BO out. We know he is horrible and what he’s all about. The problem is most are so blinded by their hate for BO they don’t see the big picture. The GOP and the DEMS are the same. RP is closer to what our founders wanted than anyone else. Fact. Just look at what he stands for. We have gotten sooo far away from it and been conditioned to think otherwise that we can’t even see it anymore.
You can classify most of our founders as Libertarians, thus why we got a Republic, and if you want to try and save it Libertarianism is the only way that’s going to happen. So if you truly do then drop the GOP and or DEMS like they’re hot and get on board with being a Libertarian. Unless of course you like people going to jail for horrible crimes such as buying raw milk, selling lemonade, and smoking pot.
http://clashdaily.com/2012/07/the-idiots-guide-to-libertarianism/
Report Post »Toltepeceno
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:03pmJust like those of us that voted for perot really showed them. What we did was got clinton elected with less than 50% and please tell me what was learned from it? We learned our lesson. We stood our ground, but it was us that got schooled….not the republican party. Nothing was gained except clinton’s policies such as the assault weapons ban.
Obama’s policies will be nothing short of radicaicanl in the secomd term. Romney’s first term would not be as radical. Better to have a first term liberal republican than a second term liberal democrat regardless if you think they are the same. Second termers have nothing to lose. Support a more conservative against romney second term.
Otherwise look for full amnesty. gun onership under attack, etc.
Report Post »Glenn in Virginia
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:03pmI’d rather vote for the Lesser of Two Evils than help the Evil of Two Lessers get re-elected.
Principle is fine and dandy, until it leads you into obvious stupidity.
Life has always been an end less series of choices between things, neither of which we may like.
Grow a brain and your likelihood of living to someday be my age will be considerably enhanced.
Report Post »Freedom.Fighter
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:07pmThe “lesser of two evils” argument is tiresome and does the user of it no favors. It is the mark of one that cannot stand up for their own princicples and lacks conviction. If your choice between president were Hilter or Stalin, would you still vote for the “lesser of the two?” Or, would you use your mind and write someone in. At least then you can tell your children that you had no part in helping the madness.
To say voting for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama also does not stand, and on multiple levels. First of all, it is a vote for Paul, not Obama. Duh! Second,to say one must chose between the two that the parties have selected even though everyone seems to agree that the parties are thoroughly corrupt is an afront to the very nature of democracy! Do your own thinking and choose the one that reflects your principle.
Lastly, a vote for Romney is more like a vote for Obama. They have so much in common. Romney can never call himself a conservative when he supports the Patriot Act (actually wants to increase its reach), supports the bailouts, and supports stronger centralized government. Just check out hi voting record.
Never change your mind, just because a party or those with feeble minds tell you to do so.
I, for one, will still vote with the greater of the choices and write Dr. Paul’s name in. And, best of all, it is the only vote I will ever cast where my consience is clean and I have never felt better about it. Not so for “lesser of two evils”
Report Post »Freedom.Fighter
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:10pmWhy vote for “Lesser-of-Two-Evils” Romney, when you can still just use your own mind and vote for someone better. Besides “Lesser-of-Two-Evils” Romney is kinda catchy and sadly true.
Report Post »Mr. Oshawott
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:13pmI wonder if anyone is aware of the fact that Mitt Romney just mandated that delegates sign a pledge saying that they’ll vote for him and that any delegate (the Ron Paul delegates) that doesn‘t sign it aren’t allowed to be delegates?
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW9RPw-TtSI
Oh, yes, the GOP establishment is REALLY that desperate to keep Ron Paul irrelevant, and it’s so disheartening that the so-called “conservatives” can’t understand that fact.
Report Post »blackdog48
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:14pmmy original choice wasn’t romney either but i WILL vote for him because the real goal is to get obama out. as much as i like ron paul (actually i like his son better), at this point a vote for him is a vote for obama.
Report Post »Libertarian
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:14pm@joiseycop
The Republican Party, like all the others have a mix of views. Libertarians are in the correct party imo because economic freedom is paramount to Republicans. Republicans have within its party progressives and libertarians. The Constitutional Party has positivists and originalists. The Libertarian Party has Socialist-libertarians, anarcho-libertarians and classic liberals (libertarians or Thomas Jefferson libertarians). The Socialist Party has Leninists, Marxists and soft Communists. The Democrat Party has liberals, socialists and blue dog Democrats within the party. As you can see there are many views within the party systems. So to boot libertarians out of the Republican Party you would be marginalizing a lot of voters including many within the tea party movement.
You remind me of a female in my local Republican Party that hates us Ron Paul supporters. She basically wants every Republican to fit in her box and see the world as she sees it. If you do not, you are not a “conservative” or Republican.
Pull your foot out of your mouth and try to debate the topics.
Take care
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:16pmNo way…not in a million years…would I vote for Obamneybush.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:16pmRP, the so-called constitutionalist whose district rakes in most EARMARKS. I vote against the bill, before it passed(as I knew it would), but love the Taxpayers who we fleeced.
Report Post »jsciai
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:21pmWest Coast Patriot
Yeah, It was kinda childish, but I couldn’t resist. You guys have been talking in such absolutes, and in your face comments that it has led me to be less than dignified in this case. You see, Patriot, you and the others have one overiding goal–prevent Romney from getting elected. You would rather obama ruin this nation for another four years than “risk” Romney for the next four. That shows political fanaticism that is so universally rejected by conservatives. I truly feel Romney will be a better president that anyone can imagine. Reagan was also feared to be too liberal, but wound up being a great president, though I still recall paul followers berating him.
After a recent article on Romney‘s religion I saw what most of you guy’s true feelings are, and that is you despise him for his mormon faith. I was fairly taken aback when I read posts from you and others that were so vehement and bigoted. I thought you just had political opposition to him, but your EMOTION was so intense it revealed the spirit of a bigot. SO, anyway, keep fighting as you want. I’ll fight to start turning all this around. At least I hope you all will vote for conservative senators so we will have that as well as the house and white house.
Report Post »Romney 2012
sillyfreshness
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:24pmRon Paul will be remembered someday as the Paul Revere of our time warning us of the communistic police state that is taking shape here right now as we speak:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOCKZiW5w8s
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:30pm@WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK..so you have the right to go cast your vote..and for what? Do you seriously think that your vote counts? The Rothschild/Rockfeller 13 family Federal Reserve is our leader…period..so you only have the illusion of voting..
Report Post »RedDawn2012
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:31pmC’mon, people, you can‘t waste your vote on Ron Paul ’cuz it adds to the risk that Obozo will be reelected, and if you think he’s been bad so far, you ain’t seen NOTHING yet! BO will become the new Hitler in a fascist America, and this we must avoid at ALL cost! I’m a Pauly too, but I’m sane enough to know that Obama MUST be sent packing, and the only way to insure that is for ALL of us to vote for Romney, as nebulous as he is at the moment.
One thing we all could do to “enlighten” Romney about what we think is important is to write or email him and let him know in a short and strong but mannerly missive that he must start talking seriously and without smiling so damned much about what WE think is important. For example, he has said NOTHING about guns and the 2nd Amendment even though the UN is currently attempting to pressure the US into signing the so-called “Arms Trade Treaty,” which would ultimately lead to total gun confiscation in this country, and we want to KNOW how he stands on this subject. We need to light a fire under this guy before it’s too late. Here is Romney’s contact information:
snail mail: Mitt Romney
Romney for President, Inc.
P.O. Box 55239
Boston, MA 02205
web contact: http://www.mittromney.com/forms/suggestions
Report Post »followtheexample
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:33pmI will also write in Ron Paul.. to all you “save America ”crowd: so are you kidding me.. you don’t realize who picked romney? Did you?.. are you so blind that you don’t see the media black out on important info and stories that you need to make the right decision? elect obama! then maybe you all will wake up and fight for your country…
Happiness is a warm gun
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:34pmYou go SPUDWHITE. These new found Romney supporters don’t know who/what they are voting for. No one has any idea where Mitt Romney stands on the issues now, or tomorrow, or yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:35pmjsciai
Your very immature. But thats not Rommney 2012 at the end of your post. Thats GOLDMAN SACHS 2012.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:37pm@13TH IMAM
“[...] district rakes in most EARMARKS.[...]”
First, I would love to see where you came to the conclusion that his district, out of all the congressional districts in the USA, that his district raked in the MOST out of all of them, including districts in California, New York, just to name a few of the most severe liberal districts in the union.
“[...] love the Taxpayers who we fleeced.[...]”
Are his constituents in his district not tax payers? Is every single person in his district on welfare and pay ZERO dollars towards the federal budget? Do they need to be fleeced? None of his earmarks AKA allocations (Congress’s job is to allocate funds, yes) added to the budget of money that would ALREADY BE SPENT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER!!! If Congress, or specifically Ron Paul, doesn’t allocate specific funds to go back to his district, you are giving the President a blank check.
So are you for giving the President a blank check? Should Congress not have any earmarks aka allocations and just give President Obama a 70billion dollar blank check? That’s exactly what you are advocating when you criticize Ron Paul for creating such allocations.
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:37pmReagan was right when he said the heart of conservatism is libertarianism. But sometimes you Paullowers and your self-righteous condemnation of anything not as pure as yourselves as you imagine makes me wonder where your true loyalty lies.
Report Post »You claim people who promise to make steps toward your own goals are traitors if they aren’t moving as quickly as you wish.
You claim to be freethinkers as if Romney supporters are all mindless drones, when you yourselves are immune to evidence on matters (How many of you are still Truthers? How many still think Paul has a serious chance at the presidency? How many of you can’t distinguish between a candidate whose platform is government growth, and one whose principles shrink government’s role). Your willful blindness can be dangerous if you allow your disgust to inspire indifference in conservatives and independents.
You talk about freedom and responsibility and how they’re inextricably linked so that self-govt is the only true form of govt, so govt should be limited and as local as possible: hence a fed const becomes so important.
But you refuse your OWN responsibility to inspire Conservatives to insist on the freedoms you claim are so important. So now your answer is to stop making the only responsible choice left?
Your attitude is like a high school football linebacker refusing to make his blocks because the coach didn’t pick your buddy as QB.
Stop cutting off your nose to spite your face, and help already.
Freedom.Fighter
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:46pmCan someone give me some real, substantiated differences between Obama and Romney? Seriously. Please back it up with a voting record or something tangible.
- They both supported the stimulus.
Report Post »- They both support the Patriot Act.
- They both support the TSA and the National Defense Authorization bill.
- Neither have ever submitted a budget that would decrease the debt or deficit.
- They both support the notion that humans are causing global warming.
- They both support “nation building”
- They support the idea that Social Security can work and we should be forced into using it.
justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:46pm@JSCAI, I remember that conservation about Romney’s religion, and I’ll concede there was a Paul supporter who went after Mormons pretty hard. WestCoast and I both stood up and disagreed with our fellow RP supporter on that issue. And, uh… WestCoast is either a Mormon or grew up Mormon, if I recall correctly.
@Look, I can sympathize with your problems in Texas. I really can, but sympathize with mine. Those people Romney is surounding himself with are the people responsible for 18 veterans killing themselves a day, my shot nerves for BS (oil and the banks), and the total destruction of everything I thought I was serving for, and I’ll have nothing to do with any of them.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:59pm@JSCIA You fault WEST COAST with not liking the religion of Romney.. I can tell you right now that West Coast had nothing to do with that..and though I respect any man’s right to believe as he wishes..Mormons take financial care of each other..and is a major incentive for people becoming Mormons..But Romney comes from a very very long line of Mormons..West Coast only posts the political similarities of the two men..Mormons on the other hand tend to go with the Mormon “End of Days’ and the “White Horse Prophesy”.. being that one of their own will arrive when the Constitution is in dissaray and will save the day..and will lead the whole world into a Mormon kingdom at the end of the world..This Mormon will rule by his ability to withhold or give food to the masses..this was all in the plan since Joseph Smith..A Mormon will be the answer..that is from an exMormon.. I have found that the Mormons and JWs went to the Rothschilds in the early 19 century for funding ..and think highly of them.. Obama’s and Romney stand together on issues of the taking of our rights..the Patriot Act NDAA Gun Contro. global warming cap and trade, big gov. and are financed by the same parties. What is the difference?
Report Post »phrogdriver
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:01pmRon Paul is a “Modern Day George Washington”?
Really?
I’m trying to figure out if that statement proves you know nothing about George Washington or nothing about Ron Paul.
Or both.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:06pmJSCIAI, You are right that I do not believe in the Mormon religion anymore. I am baptized Mormon, and it was the beliefs that were taught to me while attending church that drove me from it, but I am not so shallow as to use the fact of Romney’s religion as my drive to not vote for him. It is his policy ideas from the past and the present, along with the fact that he is backed by the establishment along with Obama that will keep me from voting for him. Another thing is the fact that the vote was corrupted through the primary, and the fact that the Romney camp violated federal law in Massachusetts by forcing Paul delegates to sign a form under penalty of perjury to vote for Romney.
Report Post »42 USC 1971 (b) Intimidation, threats, or coercion
No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, or Member of the House of Representatives, Delegates or Commissioners from the Territories or possessions, at any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any such candidate.
All of you can vote for a candidate that surrounds himself with felons, I will not.
Individualism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:07pmi really don’t like Obama, but i would pick him over Romney because i would rather our money be spent on entitlements and handouts than war abroad.
Report Post »David_Ross
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:39pmIt amazes me that people who are about as anti Obama as can be will either vote for a third party ticket — which has no chance at all of winning — or will sit out the election in protest or as a “matter of principle.” By definition they are voting (or not voting) pro Obama. Voting for a candidate such as Gary Johnson instead of voting for the one candidate that has a chance of defeating the Obamanation is taking a step toward the reelection of the Incompetence-in-Chief.
Do I think Romney is great candidate — NO! I worked hard on the Ron Paul campaign up to this point. But now that he has been eliminated from contention I will vote for the candidate that has a snowball’s chance in heck to defeat Obama. Will he be able — or even willing — to stop the escalation of big government; I don’t know. But I do know that at least the rush to destruction will be slowed down.
During the next four years the President will most likely replace 2 if not 3 retiring Supreme Court Justices. If Obama is reelected we can count on more Justices cut from the same cloth as Sotomayor and Kagin. At least Romney will nominate moderates if not conservatives. Gary Johnson, Ron Paul or any other third party candidate won‘t have a say in the nominating process as they’ll be on the outside looking in.
If one is really anti Obama they will pinch their nose and vote for Romney. Otherwise, they’ll be doing what my mom used to call, “Cutting off their nose to spite their face.”
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:44pmEvery election we hold fast to the establishment progressive paradigm setup by the two colluding main stay parties.
Report Post »Every time we listen to the argument that “the vote for someone not establishment is a vote for the worse of the two”. Sorry, not this time.
Ron Paul supporters are united and passionate. The argument is correct, with out the votes of the supporters of Paul, Obama WILL win. Everyone knows this, and you are being told the truth by Paul supporters that they will be casting their votes for him regardless of the tiring threat of another Obama Presidency. Knowing this then, you better start believing, and believing fast, that a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama. Passion counts, the Paul supporters are passionate about their guy and are going to vote for him.
I’m telling all true Independents and Republicans to vote Paul, stop thinking you will sway Paul supporters into voting for anyone else. You won’t. If we really don’t want another Obama Presidency, it’s up to the Romney supporters to recognize this and do the right thing. The ball is in their court, because everyone knows where Paul supporters stand. If Obama wins it’s not because of Paul supporters, it’s because you think that theirs a choice between Obama and Romney.
Romney will overturn Obamacare? No he won’t. He’ll water it down in a perfect example of the Overton Window. It’s a lame argument anyway.
What I want to know is, will Romney overturn the Patriot Act and the NDAA. That‘s what’s i
West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:11pmDavid_Ross, You should listen to KevinTampa. I can say with 99.99% accuracy, that you were never a true Ron Paul supporter, if at all, or you would not be giving in to the establishment. You are trying to deceive people that cannot be deceived.
Report Post »We are fervent supporters of Liberty. Paul was the only candidate that believes in true liberty. You will not sway us no matter how much you try, you see, we believe that four more of a lame duck POTUS is better than eight years of Republican progressive policies. Ron Paul supporters have stuck by their candidate of choice from the beginning, packing in crowds at all his rallies, doing the footwork that was needed in his campaign, while Romney supporters just stayed home allowing the media to dictate who was best. This is apparent in the way the masses went from one candidate to the next until the media finally said Romney was the guy. It is also apparent in the low, low crowds that Romney had at his rallies. His supporters stayed home to watch it on the news. At no time did the media give Paul a chance as the establishment reporters did not want any of you to know the whole truth.
Because of this, you will all feel the wrath of another four years and maybe, just maybe you will not trash us the next go around in 2016, and maybe, just maybe you might take our words serious the next time.
Mutiny
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:24pmWhat major nation changing policy are Romney and Obama different? Dont give me gay rights, dog eating, and dog on top of a car, “lesser of two evils”, “he is not a commie” or “he sat in Jeraimiah Wright’s Church for 20 years” dont count either.
Report Post »Copper Catfish
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:25pmSo, you want 0bama to win? Unpatriotic! He will destroy America if he gets re-elected. Don’t you care about our country, or are your hurt feelings that RP won’t be the Republican nominee more important than saving our country from the Marxist takeover?
Report Post »EVERYONE’s focus should be on defeating 0bama! (Romney wasn’t my choice either, but he is SO much better than McCain was!)
West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:26pmWebWithDeb, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXhY1j3ZAMs
Report Post »TenguScriptures
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:27pm4 more years of obama is 4 more years of obama. 4 years of Romney is a great leap to the left for conservatives.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »FatFreedom
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:28pmObama or Mitt Romney is the same thing. I am still praying that God will intervene, and give us Ron Paul.
If not I am voting for Gary Johnson.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »Joecephus
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:33pmWell then if Obama wins and we lose are liberty, remember this moment.
Report Post »Joecephus
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:33pmWell then if Obama wins and we lose are liberty, remember this moment.
Report Post »Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:35pmIf Ron Paul had won, God’s kindness and blessing on America could have been assumed. R. Paul was pro life, out with war, honest currency, balanced budget, and get your nose out of other nations business, respect sovereignty of citizens in the US. R. Paul being outed is the fall of Amierica and judgement of God. Anericans have chose for more judgement voting for vile, evil, and wicked leaders. O’ well. I fly the Christian flag and we are on our way to heaven soon. Our saving belief in Jesus Christ is wonderful. No worries.
Report Post »For America God’s judgement may include at some point Russia nuking us over Syria. Every city in the US over 10,000 population is targeted by Russia. That’s probably you. Prepare for death and accept Jesus Christ. It’s not to late until you die.
scrujay
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:38pmNothing says “I stand for freedom” like sitting out this election thereby allowing Obama to win so he can implement a European-style socialist state in America instead of voting for Romney who is pledged to repeal Obamacare.
Report Post »Pendragon
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:40pmRoss Perot = Bill Clinton and Ron Paul = Obama too bad that Obama signed so many executive orders that 2012 will be the last election as he declares himself Sovergiegn like Chavez did
Report Post »FatFreedom
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:40pmObama gave us the T-party. He woke up people like no one else!
Those of you who are so ignorant that believes that all of our problems are because of Obama, are the Problem. Our demise is a hundre years in the making. Many of us has seen it for decades and tried to warn about it and wake people up.
Mitt Romney will only passify the movement that will truly restore this nation. Though he might delay tyranny, he will ensure the success of future tyranny because he will lull the uprising that we have seen with the T-party movement. Beside he belongs to a cult.
Ron Paul 2012 or Gary Johnson
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:40pm@HappyStretchedThin
Thank you for posting on this subject. : )
Report Post »Pendragon
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:44pmDidn‘t Ron Paul at the beginning of the Primary debates say it didn’t matter who on the republican stage was nominated that any of the Republicans there would be better then Obama and Obama needed to go at any cost politically
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:44pmJoeCephus, If you do not want Obama again, start supporting Ron Paul. He is not out, he will be in Tampa, the delegates are unbound by law and can vote their conscience on the first round. State bylaws and party rules do not matter in this according to 42 USC 1971 (b). If all of you wake up and start supporting Paul, Obama WILL be defeated. If you guys nominate Romney, it is another four years. It is not too late if everyone were to wake the heII up.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:50pmHappyStretdchedThin, You can believe that crap all you want, just like a false Tea Party candidate elected to Arizona district 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U46MkU_-_wE&feature=youtu.be
Report Post »Everyone from AZ, get this guy out, he is a progressive in sheep’s clothing.
Truthbeliever2
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:57pmRomney Voters are the kind of people who will stand idly by and they will turn the other way when our government starts taking people from their homes in the night without warrants. It now has the power to label anybody who stands too far to one side a terrorist and has every right to take you out. The FBI has already labeled Ron Paul supporters as falling into the catagory of terrorists. This is how far we as a Nation have fallen.
Ron Paul was the LAST chance of turning this ship around. Romney is a big government progressive who will lie straight to your face. We’ve all seen this kind so many times, and we just vote for them anyway. When watching the news Liberal stations are all about making Obama look good, and “conservative Freedom Lovers” have Fox making Romney look good. The news is not supposed to be there to make people look good or bad but state the FACTS.
You never new anything about Ron Paul because your TV and Radio were too busy PROMOTING candidates that they didn’t show you who they REALLY WERE!
FROM THIS POINT GOING FORWARD OUR LEADERS WILL FOLLOW A NEW WORLD OBJECTIVE WHICH WILL IGNORE THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION “they already ignore it” AND RENDER IT A COMPLETELY USELESS RELIC.
NWO TRUMPS UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION
Report Post »RestoreCapitalism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:58pmIf you stay with that logic, you probably won’t vote for anyone in any race, because in most elections it’s a less than ideal choice between two candidates, neither of whom would have been our first choice. Your stance does, however, tend to make most of us wonder if it’s really a matter of conscience, or a matter of cult.
Gaining some ground is certainly better than scorched earth. At least Romney understands free market economics. If we let Obama win, there will be no free market, and no freedom.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 5:00pmHere is Breaking News! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-US52psc9E&list=UUo3SOonDcGx776CcvoW02KQ&index=1&feature=plcp
Report Post »RinkyDink34
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 5:01pm@SPUDWHITE
Report Post »I guess you should review the old adage about
“Cutting Off Your Nose To Spite Your Face”
- Might Help You Get Over Yourself-
TheDavidKing
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 5:11pmRight! All those who like rude name calling like paultard and others please listen. We’ve been duped. Either way you vote now the commies win. Don‘t think this isn’t part of there plan. Just a matter of time. And I know you know that they preach patience. Beck has stated that several times from multiple commie sources. Paul was an IDEA!!! He couldn’t pull off hardly any of what he speech-ed about. Congress and the House, HELLO!!! If Romney wins so does the very idea you hate about Obama. Thank the majority of you for being so inept. We are sooooooo done for. Hope you like fighting till the death over a bowl of dried cockroaches that your whole family is ment to survive upon. The government is ready for this! So prepped! Super dug in! And has a plan that been in action for a very long time. Your guns, Ha! Your stockpiles, Ha! We will be put down(say for a very few very lucky). Thank you for bringing me and all those I love down with you.
Report Post »RonPaulOrNoOne
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 5:15pm@TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12 – You never had any one’s number. You Internet Paid troll. I bet your really an Obama Supporter. A big internet tough guy. You were wrong at every thing you said. Do you us Paul Supporters are going to believe this crap? Nope. Are you going to Tampa? I sure hope you are so I can spit in your face and call you a nazi.
Report Post »Truthbeliever2
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 5:22pmFREE AMERICANS SHOULD SEE THIS! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi2ue4Zf6Rw
They are totally ignoring this FACT!
Why can’t you people see you are being duped by the media. They damn sure won’t be talking about this lest the sheeple wake up and realize the media has been purposely irresponsible with pertanant information regarding Ron Paul.
He already had the 5 states he needed to be able to speak in Tampa. I bet that was the only time they ever mentioned it.
Report Post »Searchingforthelight
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 5:23pmThis probably is a an Obama voter! He just wants you to vote Ron Paul and lessen the votes going to Romney. Increase the PRIDE of voting your choice. He’s playing on your emotions. AMERICA has better wake up!
Report Post »Constantine Ivanov
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 5:27pm@WAKINGSHEEP:
Ron Paul supports many good things in domestic policies and seems insane in international affairs.
In terms of what he supports, Romney may seem to be a lot closer to the Obama-in-Chief than Ron Paul.
But…
The “but” is that Ron Paul has NO CHANCE to be elected (he’s got only 2 delegates out of 35; all others are with Romney).
Therefore voting for Ron Paul means automatically voting for the Disaster-in-Chief’s 2nd term.
If the destruction of the USA is inevitable, then it would be better if it happens under obama: better for the future of GOP.
But if there still is a slightest chance to avoid the complete destruction of our country, then we have to prevent the 2nd term of this Socialist-in-Chief by all means.
Report Post »Truthbeliever2
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 5:38pmOk that last link was for 4 states but the media is falsely giving Romney the win in Colorado which will more than likely end up going to Paul. The media doesnt want you to know how close this actually is…http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/reawakening-liberty/2012/apr/15/colorado-further-evidence-ron-paul-will-challenge-/
Report Post »Truthbeliever2
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 5:46pm@SEARCHINGFORTHELIGHT
Keep searching! Go crawl back under your rock and search there.
Report Post »spydrman669
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 5:51pmPersonal Information:
Report Post »His full Name is: Willard Mitt Romney
He was Born: March 12, 1947 and is 65 years old.
His Father: George W. Romney, former Governor of the State of Michigan
He was raised in Bloomfield Hills , Michigan
He is Married to Ann Romney since 1969; they five children.
Education:
B.A. from BrighamYoungUniversity,
J.D. and M.B.A. from HarvardUniversity
Religion:
Mormon – The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-Day Saints
Working Background:
After high school, he spent 30 months in France as a Mormon missionary.
After going to both HarvardBusinessSchool and HarvardLawSchool
simultaneously, he passed the Michigan bar exam, but never worked as an attorney.
In 1984, he co-founded Bain Capital a private equity investment firm, one of the
largest such firms in the United States .
In 1994, he ran for Senator of Massachusetts and lost to Ted Kennedy.
He was President and CEO of the 2002 Winter Olympic Games.
In 2002, he was elected Governor of the State of Massachusetts where he
eliminated a 1.5 billion deficit.
Some Interesting Facts about Romney:
Bain Capital, starting with one small office supply store in Massachusetts,turned it into Staples; now over 2,000 stores employing 90,000 people.
Bain Capital also worked to perform the same kinds of business miracles again and again, with companies like Domino’s, Sealy, Brookstone, Weather Channel, Burger King, Warner Music Group, Dollarama, Home Depot Supply, and many others.
He was an unpaid volun
usedCZARsalesman
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 6:05pmdon’t you RPers understand that if EVERYONE sat out EVERY election when their #1 (or even #2 or #3) guy wasn’t “the one”, then our Presidential elections would be chosen by 15-20% of the electorate? Do ANY of us EVER get the absolutely PERFECT candidate? NO, of course not!!! Romney has a ton of baggage, but what we MUST have RIGHT NOW is someone who will sign conservative bills…PERIOD! That’s it, no more, no less…the American people are awake now, we will “progressively” move back to the right but not without YOUR help.
Report Post »akconstitutionalliberatarian
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 6:20pmI’m with you it is about Honor and being tired of the same ol same ol…Whats the difference being distroyed by progressives or being destroyed by progressives. The problem today is no oen has true morals and will stand by them. As it is written, God will spit the luke warm out of his mouth…A person true to the inspired word of God could not vote any other way but the way taught in the Bible. ORAMNEY is know help he may as well ask Hillary to run for VP on the RINO ticket!!!
Report Post »flaggdies
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 6:26pmGood for you. As for “M13” and people like him they are the reason we have a canadite who stands for nothing. They do what they are told and choose not to think for themselves. They will forever believe that what matters most is the “R” or “D” behind someones name. They also believe that it is important to be on a winning team. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. These people crave power and will say and do anything to get it and not what they actually stand for or do they believe in anything? You tell me M13 what are Mr. Romney’s beliefs, his core values. You do as you know you should do what is in your heart of hearts. Vote for your canadite with out regret. Not give your vote to someone just because he is the party favorite. In case you haven’t noticed the Republicans stand for nothing. They are not out for the interests of the american people. It is not the citizens job to court a canadite it is the canadites job to court the citizens vote. I will not be told that if i choose not to say yes to Populisim, Socialism, Corpratisim by voting for somebody other than Romney. My vote only counts for the opposition. No sir you are the one who is misinformed. You will vote for a canadite who is like your hated rival. He is just missing a “D” behind his name. A Thinking man’s vote will count because it does not say yes to Populisim, Socialism, and Corpratisim. My vote is an affimitive Yes for the Founding principles. Yours Is a Yes for something
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 6:28pmUsedCarSalesman, Good job for you. You said it yourself, progressively, however, progressiveness leads to socialism, not back to our values. Sorry, but you guys are the ones making the choices here based on the knowledge you have received. We have told you from the beginning that we would not vote for Romney, now you think we should change our minds? We are not like you. We will not be swayed to change our minds, we will do what we do, and if that leads to four more, so be it. You were told what we would do and you chose to ignore us as little insignificant creatures. Well we are going to show you how insignificant we are,…. not.
Report Post »lillith70
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 6:38pmThe Cult of Paul–go figure.
Report Post »Smoovious
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 6:40pmI swear… haven‘t you establishment voters learned anything from the past elections about the pledges of the government parties’ candidates?
Pledges are worthless. Records matter.
Stop kicking the can down the road, hoping for something better next election, yer not going to get it.
Any chance the Reps had of getting my vote, they lost, with the corrupt treatment of their only primary candidate who actually was conservative and fit their mission statement. That told me all I needed to know about what the Republican party has become.
The Republicans aren’t getting my vote this year for one basic reason. THEY DON’T DESERVE IT!
I’ve crossed the line over and over and over again, sometimes for Dems, sometimes for Reps, shoving aside my honor to vote for the lesser evil.
I’VE HAD IT, AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!
I’m DONE… and so are millions of other voters.
Stop deluding yourselves into believing there are only 2 candidates every time, there aren’t. Only 2 are government endorsed… for a reason. Dems, and Reps.
You want change? You want small government? You want this progressive BS to end?
Then stop being their patsy, stand up, and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
If you’re not willing to do it, then might as well just get yourself another Etch-A-Sketch.
I’ve HAD IT with you idiots.
– Voting for Johnson.
Report Post »– Smoovious
lillith70
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 6:45pmSpoken like a true cultist. Newsflash, the old bird has ran his last race and is in it for his own power and ego. You make a very useful tool. Your vote for Paul only worth 1/2 obama vote and 1/2 Romney? But this wway you have the right to complain about either.
Report Post »Smoovious
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 6:54pmNothing says “I stand for freedom” better than putting blinders on so you can only see the 2 government candidates, neither of which, stand for freedom, and only allowing yourself to vote for one or the other.
(insert dripping sarcasm)
– Smoov
Report Post »pcj
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 7:00pmRon Paul can do more for this country if he is named Secretary of the Treasury or to head the Federal Reserve. He has been trying to get a complete and honest audit of the Federal Reserve for many years. The Fed is not a bank, nor is it Federal, it is a corrupt private group that runs the finances of our country. Ron Paul knows how rotten they are and how they are destroying our country for the wealth of a few.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 7:27pmLillith70, You have huge blinders on. Paul is in no way in this for power. He has said many times that the executive order, that gives a lot of power to one man, is unconstitutional and he would only sign one on the first day, to repeal every executive order ever written and to never sign another through his term. Now why would a man in it just for the power even consider doing such a thing? You are just another lost American, listening to the establishment reporters on the media, believing everything they say as though they are gods.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:00pmHI MONK,
I think RP will endorse Mitt when all is said and done.
I think he knows what is best for our future, and will do the right thing.
He also has his kids political future to think about.
Just MHO though. Well have to wait and see.
Report Post »pdw
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:06pmYes Obama will just love you. Ron Paul is a nice guy but I would never want him to be our President. His foreign policies would have us in more trouble than I want to ever see.
Report Post »Malcom0983
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:17pmAll you freedom loving lemmings that think a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama, are complete hypocrites. You want freedom… as long as it’s from the establishment GOP PRETENDING to give it to you, right? You‘re such mindless turds if you don’t understand that a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama. Nothing will be undone. Obama campaigned to stop the wars. He didn’t and Romney wont. Obama campaigned to stop lobbyists and special interests. He didn‘t didn’t Romney wont.
Report Post »How about a vote for conscience? You guys think the lesser of two evils will save you and you’re dead wrong. Not to mention, you sorry sacks better take your yellow ribbons and “support the troops” stickers of your cars if you vote for Romney because you obviously HATE the military. Let me catch one of you turds with a “Romney 2012” sticker next to a yellow ribbon. I’m gonna do my best to take them off and I may take the bumper with me.
The-Monk
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:25pm@West Coast Patriot
“Here is Breaking News!”
Thanks for the video clip.
“All roads lead to Tampa…..”, I like that. My backyard.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:27pmThanks to all that replied to my question on whether or not Dr. Paul would endorse Romney.
Report Post »educatedowl
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:42pmi agree with you, spud. these ‘that’s a vote for obama’ people are missing the entire point. maybe if the parties quit putting up crap for us, we’d vote for them. we always settle! no more! it isn’t enough for me to hate the other guy. i have to believe in something…be FOR something.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:44pmMonk, I will answer you, no I do not believe Ron Paul will endorse Romney, Rand does not think that his dad will endorse Romney. does that answer your question?
Report Post »thewatcher93
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:03pm“Modern-Day-George-Washington Ron Paul” George Washington eh? That’s a stretch.
Report Post »Ragnars Repos
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:10pmI’m voting for Ron Paul. That is, if Liberals/Conservatives don’t outlaw it before November.
The herd mentality is alive and well among Conservatives as they run off a cliff together/vote for Romney-Mormon-cult-member and watered-down socialist extraordinaire.
All of this in order to not ‘vote for Obama by voting for Ron Paul’. Exactly how they make that work in this universe I will never understand.
But the Conservatives have a habit of attempting to bend reality to their will. They scream, “Give me liberty, with a side of social safety net, or give me death!”. Heck, 70% of their Tea Party can’t bear the thought of being pulled from the government nipple (medicare). Which is it, Conservatives, freedom, or ‘free stuff’? I know you think you can have both, but reality will slap you down in short order.
I think I will go have that cake, and eat it.
Conservatives claim to detest Obamacare, but it appears as though their herd will stampede to the polls in November to vote for the cult-member who helped design the prototype. Well done, flag-waiving ‘defenders of the constitution’, well done.
Ron Paul is the only rational person in this race. That he isn’t way ahead right now is a sign of just how lost Americans really are. It’s a bad sign.
Report Post »AmericablessGod
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:26pmAnd just how do you think America will survive another 4 years of Obama? Ron Paul absolutely cannot defeat Obama. Stop your delusions and join us in the real world.
Report Post »usedCZARsalesman
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:29pmWEST COAST…that was a childish play on words…
Progressively: increasingly: advancing in amount or intensity (I hate using dictionary definition in these discussion but you made me).
I was talking about do the EXACT thing they have done over the past 100 years but in reverse. All this CANNOT be fixed in one swoop even with RP in the WH…it just doesn’t work that way. I am 100% behind the Paul camp and what you want…I also HAVE NEVER “dismissed you as insignificant”, you play a vital role in the next 30-40 years turning us back around. I DO NOT LIKE ROMNEY, but he will sign the bills that a conservative house/senate put in front of him…Obummer will NOT. Why can’t you guys see the difference between putting on the cruise control (Romney) and slamming the pedal to the floor until we run into a brick wall (Obama)?
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:20pmAnyone else but me notice the disturbing rhetoric from the Paullowers in this thread?
Report Post »THEY’re the smart ones, and everyone else is either a sellout or a useful idiot in the machine of some conspiracy theory.
THEY’re the only freethinkers able to see past the propaganda to conclude that Obama and Romney have no important differences, and that therefore the truly smart people must support either a write-in or a 3rd party with no chance of gaining any constitutional power.
THEY’re the only pure constitutionalists and freedom lovers because everyone else: a. doesn’t back their candidate; b. doesn’t believe in legalizing drugs and other vices; c. doesn’t believe in the moral relativism of strict and blind non-interventionism; d. actually believes in convincing other people to back their legislative priorities.
Since when was it logical to, in effect, stand OUTSIDE the metaphorical arena shouting at all the real players that they aren’t the true athletes?
What GOOD does it do to the country, to the constitution, if you keep LOSING and never have the POWER it takes to get your IDEAS implemented.
Libertarian ideas are good in their direction in defense of freedom, but you’re the proverbial kid crying on the sidewalk because no one wants to play by your rules. Everyone else is still playing the game without you!
Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Or are you really convinced you’re the only smart people who can see past the plans of the ubermensch REALLY in
Cosmos102
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:24pmDo not believe the comments here that whine about Romey being the same as Obama. The Tea Party is on to them. They are being paid by some Democrat group to come here and demoralize people so they will not vote. Worse, some of you have begun to agree with them. I remember a comment that George Soroes made a few months ago, that hit the news. He said it didn’t matter who won the election because Romney was the same as Obama! This is a set up. It’s time to kick Obumer out of office. To all the whiners in here, if you don’t like the heat, get out of the kitchen. This country is not going to fall to some Communist poser this November! This is a rally cry to all Patriots.
Report Post »jsciai
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:52pmThe-Monk
Report Post »Good question on whether or not Ron Paul will endorse Romney. I believe he will and I’ll tell you why. 1. Ron Paul is not stupid. He know’s obama is capable of doing extreme damage to this county–even more than he already had. 2. Romney’s creds: though not a perfect candidate(they don’t exist) Romney does have the CEO experience in both the public and private sectors to take the reigns of the nation. Paul knows this. 3. Rand has already endorsed Romney and if Ron doesn’t it will make his son look like an idiot. 4. Romney has always been respectful of Romney, and visa versa. During the primaries Romney never abused or attacked Paul when others were doing so. I feel they have a mutual respect that will encourage Paul to endorse him. 5. Paul will realize the need to unite as many conservatives together as possible to defeat obama.
Of course, I may be completely wrong in all of this, but it just feels right to me.
M1A2_Tanker
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:13pm“He wasn’t my first choice either, but anything or anybody is way better than Obama”
This moronic attitude is why you lost our country. Two many years of the lesser Evil F%^&%^ up this country and you blame those who stick to their morals and convictions for the loss? The only thing any of us can hope for is absolute bloody Revolution and True Constitutionalists leading the Resurrection of our founding fathers. Romney will never return what NeoCons have lost. No Neocon will ever return us to the land of milk and honey. I will proudly “Waste” my vote on the beliefs that will save what is left of this country and rebuild the original intention. The modern GOP are Socialist, Marxist, Communist, Statist’s of a different color. You, just like the left want to ban, outlaw, regulate, tax, and penalize all the things YOU do not want or like. You are no different on the inside just a new paint job on the outside. I will write RP on my ballot and if that secures another four years of Obummer then it will be just! You NeoCons WILL and MUST suffer the consequences for your decades of of settling with Evil. If you sleep with dogs you WILL wake up with fleas, yet you think that you can continue to sleep with dogs as long as you use flea spray. Wake Up! you are responsible for settling with Evil Now take your “Just deserts”, be responsible for your actions ,take your punishment standing up, learn from the mistake, Adapt and overcome. Stop deflecting, Stop blaming those who carry
Report Post »jsciai
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:31pm@ashestoashes
Report Post »Uh, sorry, you’ve got it wrong. I didn‘t fault WCP for not liking Romney’s religion. I faulted him, and all of the others, for not liking ROMNEY BECAUSE of his religion. This seems to fly in the face of that so-called libertarian freedom yall seem to espouse. There is no religious litmus test to be president. And for you folks to faith-bash Romney just discredits you more. You see, Yall seem to give a pass on everyone and everything but don’t give Romney a pass on ANYTHING. Thus, you have NO credibility.
Now, just for the heck of it I took your bait on that white mare/end of the world swipe you took at the mormons. I believe you should go to the source to find out anything, and in searching the official mormon website I could find nothing on those topics. It could be argued they are ‘hiding’ something, but when I ran searches for other controversial topics there was information listed. I must then conclude this is not official church doctrine. Shall we take a look at your church’s beliefs and see which are official and which are urban legend?(that is assuming you have tie to a religion.) It’s all smoke an mirrors intended to divide the conservative vote and get obama re-elected. I’m not falling for that and will push to get Romney in and obama out. Here is a site you may find interesting:
http://evangelicalsformitt.org/
Mil Mom
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:38pmAccording to ABC News, Paul’s campaign said it plans to bring about 500 supportive delegates to Tampa, guaranteeing his presence will still be felt. He is also planning to hold his own rally around Tampa, and his supporters have organized Paul Festival 2012, an independent event that will feature live music
Report Post »****
Watch holder have DEA plants in the crowd. whether they use SWAT teams or just undercover in case he has too much influence on the party platform. We all know that the press won’t report on drug use by the cabal, but they’d love to report on it at a “Not quite” repub convention party!
black9897
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:38pm@HAPPYSTRETCHEDTHIN
I do not believe that those of us who support Ron Paul are the only smart ones nor are the only freethinkers. I do however think we are the ones who see the big picture and see past the “anybody but BO; we must get him out at any cost” attitude. In a way I don’t blame people. I’ve read “the Roots of BO’s rage.” I know what he’s about and don’t’ like him anymore than the rest of you. But going off of emotion and having the same attitude that got BO elected and just feeding the fire that’s burning this country to the ground won’t work.
BO isn’t the one who has destroyed this country; it started long before he came around. It’s been a slow process over a long time. Of course he isn’t helping in the slightest, but that’s not the point. I know, I know…it’s the “lesser of the two evils” but since when should evil be a choice at all?? Going about this cycle of voting in the better master doesn’t make us anymore free. As Webster once said, “There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.”
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Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:39pm…..
Libertarianism is the only way you or I will even have a chance of saving this country if we want to save it. In fact, most of our founders would classify as Libertarian. We don’t believe in “moral relativism” or that anybody can do whatever they want. We believe as far as the law goes (generally speaking) that if I’m not paying for it, and it’s not violating my rights or the rights of others or causing damage, then you should be able to do it. In fact, that’s what the government was originally supposed to be only able to do. In order for courts to hear a case, no matter who is bringing the charge there must be a valid cause of action which consists of two elements: violation of a legal right and or damage.
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Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:40pm……
“What GOOD does it do to the country, to the constitution, if you keep LOSING and never have the POWER it takes to get your IDEAS implemented.”
I’ll keep shouting till someone hears me. I don’t need to ask permission for freedom, I’ll just take it. Better question…what good does it do to vote in the same criminals every 4 years? In fact, not voting would be best, and then maybe they would hear us loud and clear and understand that enough is enough! We Paul supports don’t mean to come off as rude, or that we are better than anyone else, smarter, etc. So even though sometimes we can be very passionate like WESTCOAST it’s not out of bad intent or somehow we are secretly working for Soros.
Playing this back and forth game won’t do us any good. No matter who wins if we want real liberty then we are going to have to take it.
Report Post »ProScrub
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:41pm@all you dumbasses claiming that it’s us Ron Paul supporters “re-electing” Obama. WE CAN USE THE SAME F*CKING ARGUMENT AGAINST YOU. Jesus christ people, grow the **** up! We all have the right to vote for whom we want to see in the White House. Personally, I feel a vote for Ron Paul is the ONLY choice. Because Mitt Obama and Barack Romney are the same guy. One is white, one is black. Don‘t you dare try to blame anything on those of us who are actually conservative because you refuse to vote for something different than your progressive Romney because he’s more electable. That is the most pathetic reason to vote EVER. You continue to play your little red vs. blue games; us “Paulbots” (and damn proud of the title) are going to continue fighting for REAL conservatism and freedom. I will never understand why it is our fault Obama will be elected just because we choose to break away from GOP vs Dem game. WAKE THE **** UP. By voting Obamney YOU, not us, are voting liberal.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:43pmUsedCZarSalesman, Glad to hear you are 100% behind us, so if what you post is the truth (your words ARE truthful are they not?), you will also be writing in Paul’s name in November. But what you said here: “I DO NOT LIKE ROMNEY, but he will sign the bills that a conservative house/senate put in front of him.” is the sandman throwing sleep sand in your eyes. There are a lot of progressives (that call themselves conservative) in Congress right now, and I do not trust Congress, Republican or Democrat controlled, to put up Constitutional bills. That type of logic does not stand the test of Liberty. Sorry.
Report Post »Here is a Republican establishment plant in AZ that posed as a Tea Party candidate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U46MkU_-_wE&feature=youtu.be
We cannot stand for the Constitution, but believe in less of the Constitution because 50% of the people do not believe in the Constitution? Arizona!!, get rid of this guy as quickly as possible. He is a progressive in sheep’s clothing.
Mil Mom
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:43pm@Minarchian
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:53am
“Another vote for Obama, good for you.”
Oh look
Another Rombat who thinks there’s a difference between Romney and Obama.
Independent thinkers will feel sorrow for our country when either one wins and lambaste people like you who fell for the lies
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AND THE DIFFERENCE IS… one will slow down and watch the scenery as he drives off the cliff, the other will throw it into high gear, make sure ALL Americans are on the bus, then bail out as we go over the cliff!
At least with Romney, the House and Senate will be relevant, if we take them back we can override vetoes if need be.
black9897
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:45pmIf it takes BO being re-elected for everyone to understand and wake up then that’s whats got to happen.
A book that will challenge your reality and change how you view the world: Adventures in Legal Land–Marc Stevens.
Report Post »mck05002
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:45pmNot true! Ron Paul got a plurality in 6 other states. He is still up for president and he will be speaking. Here’s the proof, nice try blaze…but you’re going to have to get up a little earlier to accurately discredit the good DR! http://www.dailypaul.com/244779/ron-paul-on-his-way-to-tampa-plurality-achieved-take-the-podium
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:49pm@AUsername
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:08am
good, we don’t want Romney and his cult being the laws of our land
Report Post »***
That’s right, we’d rather have the cult of “Death”, ie abortion even after birth, Death Panels deciding who gets healthcare, and the CAIR (look it up they’re all over this government) who support suicide bombers etc. Not to mention the death of America as we knew it!
kralspaces
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:53pmI don’t want to waste anyones time, so here’s another stealth vote for Obama.
Rand Paul 2016
Report Post »LB
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 12:05amIf you really care about your country you will vote for Romney. It might be different if we were dealing with a different president. If Obama gets re-elected America may not be able to recover. At least with Romney there is a chance to start on a road to recovery. Oh ya and Romney’s not a commie. Please don’t sit this one out. A plea from a fellow American.
Report Post »ThankBabyJesus
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 12:17amCoward.
Report Post »CulperJunior
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 12:20amCongrats Beck! You’ve helped get your strawman candidate elected. You’ve served your master well my friend! How’s Rupert doing? He still play gold with his buddy at BSkyB, ole what’s his name? You know…the guy you mentioned right before you got kicked off Fox? Oh, Rothchild…yeah that’s it. How is Rothchild doing?
Report Post »All joking aside…what is your relationship to Rupert Murdoch, and what is his relationship with Evelyn De Rothchild? How does that influence your “journalism”? We want to know.
Kenszen
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 1:10am@jsciai Love your post(s)! The first one was hilariously great, thx.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 1:13am@BLACK9897
What if Dr. Paul does indeed wholeheartedly endorse Romney?
And then goes as far as to strongly urge all of his supporters to vote for Mitt.
Will you honor his request?
Or will you accuse him of selling out?
This, after all, is the man that you all claim is different. He is above the fray. He would never lower himself to the level of being a sell-out………..right?
So if he does as I think he will…….and endorse Romney………it must be legit.
Logic says so.
Will you then vote for him?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 1:24am@MCK05002
Nice link to a website that is “Not paid for by, nor officially affiliated in any way with Ron Paul.”
Better start getting up earlier my friend.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 1:25amRadio Commentator Jerry Doyle at his best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t6Khyh6xsSs
Report Post »FatFreedom
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 1:39amHere The Blaze goes again, pushing this story down the page as soon as they can, because they don’t like the direction of the comments. This story was to help belittle Ron Paul and make people forget about him.
Besides the shear logic of the arguments made by WEST COAST PATRIOT and AMERICAN SOLDIER and other patriots is sure to convince the opened minded liberty lovers not to wast their vote on mitt, and join the movement that is brewing that will truly restore this nation.
But for the Diddo Heads, Becktarts, Fox Numbots, and Mormon cultist, there is no hope.
If Ron Paul does not end up with the nomination he should come out and support Gary Johnson.
To a question asked earlier if Ron Paul would support Mitt? I hope not, but don’t care that much. The Ron Paul movement was never just about Ron Paul. IT IS ABOUT FREEDOM, and Ron Paul’s philosophy and character exemplifies what the movement is about.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 1:41am@JSCIAI I found a website that verifies what I found..and a Mormon that posts here regularly Brother Ed verified what I posted..He wouldn’t verify that the high priests..like Romney will get their own planet and be their own gods when they die..he said it got more complicated and didn’t want to get into it..but he did get into the White Horse Prophesy and the End of Days prophecy..I have a relative whom I love dearly who is Mormon..and she is just starting to reach out to learn more of the Bible..As for me..I was raised a Southern Baptist..but am now non denominational..I find that most of the churches have a part of the truth..but not all of the truth..they as well as we have been shielded from the truth by a Rothchild/Zionist media..google Republican Mitt Romney and the Mormon Plan for America..
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 1:45amMark: You summed up the NeoLib Bots. They need to slither back to their Code Pink / 911 truther meetings. The Bots can rally around Cindy Sheehan or Alex Jones as their new leader and god. Their few thousand (hateful) votes scattered across the country are as meaningless as Ron Paul.
Report Post »I will be at the Tampa fairgrounds (with a recorder) for the Paul love-fest, I need some comic relief. I will send the tape to Glenn. I live is Z-Hills, not far from the fairgrounds. Any Bots need a place to stay?
Therightsofbilly
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 2:15am@FATFREEDOM
Please……..this story has up since before 9:00 AM this morning. Newer stories push all old stories down the page.
You are stretching just a bit there.
Take a look just to right of the main story boxes and notice that it is still #2 in the popular stories section for all to see, with well over 700 posts.
Let’s be real now, OK?
Would any other Paul people like to take a crack at my question above to BLACK9897?
It’s just a hypothetical question……..I may be proven 100% wrong?
Report Post »supermansdad
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 2:15am@SPUD
Report Post »Are you really that dense? Jesus Isn’t on the ballot so no matter whom you vote for your still voting for EVIL!
The-Monk
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 2:37am@HappyStretchedThin
Monk rule # 1….
“What something is, is what it extends”
Report Post »Something is Wrong
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 7:34amSo many people in this discussion just don’t seem to get it. Everyone arguing about what one guy is/was going to change or save America. Guess what, Ron Paul is not George Washington. Even if he were, George Washington was just one man and would have been completely ineffective and would have ammounted to diddly squat if it weren’t also for Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Pain, Benjamin Franklin, etc. etc. No single politician be it Romney or Ron Paul can save America. The ONLY hope America has is not to be found in any politician, the issues they support, or their voting record but in mothers and fathers raising good, moral children who work hard and take responsibility for themselves. If America‘s families will not pull together then it doesn’t matter how constitutional any one candidate is because it is only a matter of time before the American people choose somebody worse than Obama and willing to go further than Obama ever has. I like a lot of the things Ron Paul said he stood for (but I don’t trust him any more than any other politician) but he would have made a terrible President. He is not a leader and he would need to be one in order to accomplish any of the things he promises. He would only be able to deliver on his promises by becoming the opposite of what he says he is. I would love to explain this in full but there’s a stupid character limit on these posts. That being said, Obama was raised by radical communists, Romney wasn’t. That’s a good start.
Report Post »Machstorm
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 7:38amThat’s right anyone who votes for Ron Paul in the final election is just giving another vote to Obama. Let’s face it we already knew he was not going to make it.
Report Post »4TheNarrowMinded
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 8:20amHERE’S AN IDEA.. instead of voting for the lesser of two evils or crying about “if you vote for paul, then you are taking away votes for Romney”.. . ALL THE CONSERVATIVES JUST VOTE FOR RON PAUL!!!
Report Post »WOW CRAZY IDEA THAT JUST MAY WORK!!!
that would really shake the system up and it would stop this coke vs pepsi battle.
p.s.
I know obama supporters that jumped on the Paul wagon as well so he is stealing votes from both parties. So please stop the “3rd party just steals votes away from the republican party” rhetoric…its so old and not a valid excuse if you lose to the democrats. IF YOU LOSE ITS BECAUSE YOU DIDN’T VOTE FOR THE MOST CONSERVATIVE GUY YOU HAVE… RON PAUL … 2012
4truth2all
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 8:42amYo Black9897:
Hope you are doing well … What if it takes a win by Romney for us to get it “completely”, for us to be pushed the rest of the way, the way that obama started, and in four tears from now with Romney we will still exhibit some sort of resemblence to a free America that obama will have completely destroyed if given four more years. Maybe then we will return to a Reagan or a Washington and truly heal this limping nation. You don’t “take” something back by sittin on the bench.
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 9:11am@The-Monk,
Report Post »A formulation I’ve never before considered. PROFOUND rule, imho.
@Black,
Thanks for the measured response and clear presentation.
I’ll be happy to agree to disagree with a reasoned opinion like yours on the few but important points where we diverge, and still welcome you and all Libertarians where their votes still make a difference.
You see, you can’t escape using the word “mentality” when describing the choice we have between Obama and Romney (which you insist have no differences), but the reality is…well…that it’s not a mentality anymore: it IS a real choice in the real world and bears real consequences.
If you persist in maintaining that you will not choose the lesser of two evils because it’s good or nothing, then it’s YOU who are describing a mentality and not a reality. It is not logical to insist on full payment when faced with a choice between partial payment or total loss.
Maybe our error on this thread is to accept your terms: Mitt is NOT MERELY the lesser of two evils. He has a BUNDLE of beliefs, of which 90% or more YOU AGREE WITH. Therefore he’s a GOOD choice, NOT an evil of the lesser sort.
The very fact that he wants to reduce taxes means the govt would have less means to maintain, ergo smaller govt. Isn’t that worth fighting for? Can’t you at least get behind THAT?
I keep returning to sports metaphors, but it’s accurate: shouting you are winning OUTSIDE the game ISN’T WINNING IT, isn’t even playing it. Engage, brother!
The Realist
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 9:24amHere is just a simple, sample list-(and there is PLENTY more) in no particular order-we can say that:
Report Post »1) Romney is not a Marxist-communist. Yes I realize that statement will have some who just woke up after a *5 year sleep wringing their hands, shaking their heads, and perhaps even laughing. If you don’t get this one by now…what can I say, other than you’ve really been sheltered. (*5, because many of us knew this about a year prior to the election)
2) Romney would not promise Russia “more flexibility” at all, including when he thought he could be sneaky about it.
3) Romney does want to “fundamentally change” America. This is not the job of any President, so he shouldn’t. Why would anyone want to change the greatest country in the world anyhow?
4) Romney would not trash the constitution, multiple times. Romney would not write a book criticizing the U.S. constitution saying “it didn’t do enough for people”
5) Romney does not have a bunch of socialists, Marxists, communists, and even two Maoists working in his administration. He wasn’t reared buy them either. He didn’t have a communist father (Barack Sr.) or a communist childhood mentor (Frank Marshall Davis). Romney did not “seek out Marxist professors” while in college, and then write a book about it telling us he did so.
6) Romney did not sit in a church for 20 years where a radical, racist, Marxist, anti-American so-called Pastor presided. Romney was not involved with three other equally r
The Realist
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 9:25am7) Romney doesn’t/wouldn’t try to divide people by both class warfare and racial issues. He would not do countless things to incite jealousy, envy and covetousness.
Report Post »8) Romney would not run up our national debt more than the first 43 U.S. presidents COMBINED, in ONE TERM.
9) Romney would not get on national television to claim capitalism a failure, as Obama claimed “We tried the free markets (capitalism) and it failed” when in reality he and his administration have been sawing off it’s legs, only so they could usher in its replacement-some form of socialist government.
10) Romney would not bend over backwards to please and appease Muslims both at home and abroad.
11) Romney is far superior at running a business, while Obama was a “community organizer” (aka street hustler). Romney would be better for the economy in many ways.
12) Romney would not be anti-drilling for our own oil, so we wouldn’t have to buy from terrorists who want to kill us.
13) Romney would be much more likely to secure our borders.
14) Romney would not advance the Gay agenda, the abortion agenda, and the Atheist agenda that has become so prevalent with liberals.
15) Romney would not have the main stream liberal media covering up, or sugar-coating his every move-regardless of how dangerous it might be for the country. Quite the contrary we’d know once again, if Romney sneezed crooked.
16) The Romney administration would not sue individual states for trying to secure their borders.
The Realist
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 9:26am17) The Romney administration would not act as protectionists for the radical racist New Black Panther Party. The New Black Panthers had endorsed Obama, and at one time their seal was on the White House site.
Report Post »18) The Romney administration would not give thousands of guns to Mexico, to create the illusion that tougher gun laws are needed. (Fast and Furious)
19) Romney has no plans at decreasing our nuclear weapon stockpile.
20) Romney did not start his political career in the home of a domestic, unrepentant terrorist named Bill Ayers. One of COUNTLESS, anti-capitalist, anti-American people in Obama’s life.
21) Romney would be very unlikely to get numerous endorsements from Muslim groups from 2008 to present day as well as Hamas (yes-THAT Hamas)
22) The Muslim Brotherhood would not be working in the Mitt Romney administration
23) Romney would not appoint radical, anti-constitution judges to the Supreme Court.
24) Romney is not tied to voter fraud group Acorn (still around, just different name) and criminal thug unions.
25) Romney did not go on VIDEO, and say his cap and trade plans will cause electricity and all energy rates, REGARDLESS OF INDUSTRY, to SKYROCKET.
26) Romney will most likely NOT get an endorsement from the communist Party USA (cpusa.org)
27) Romney would most likely not get an endorsement from Columbian FARC Marxist terrorists…
The Realist
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 9:27am28) Romney is not responsible, nor does he support those (Barney Frank, Christopher Dodd, Maxine Waters, et. al.) who were involved with the COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT, which is what caused the LARGEST PART of our financial crisis.
Report Post »29) Romney is not a student of the teachings of Saul Alinsky, the radical socialist “community organizer” whose book “Rules for Radicals” was dedicated to no less than Lucifer himself.
30) Romney would treat our ally-Israel, GOD’S PEOPLE, much better.
31) Romney would be very unlikely to have an ENEMIES LIST.
32) Romney would not travel around the world and bow and apologize to leaders of other countries, including those who are hostile to us!!!
4truth2all
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 9:38amYo The Realist:
Thanks for the reality of your posts !
Report Post »There is a BIG difference between the two … the spirit of freedom is not calling for silence in this comming election … and those that remain silent do not deserve it.
The Realist
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 9:43amThat 32-item list is for the “No difference between Obama and Romney” FOOLS. Just a little to get you started.
Report Post »FatFreedom
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 9:58amThe blaze is censoring my pro Ron Paul post.
I guess it is my fault for not being a Becktart!
To vote for Mitt is the same as having our founding fathers, waiting for King George to pass away hoping the next monarch will be better!
Ron Paul or Gary Johnson NEVER MITT!
Report Post »FatFreedom
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 10:11am@ THEREALIST or REAL BECKTART!
Mitt can ensure the death of our nation, in that he will but the Giant of Liberty back to sleep in exchange for a temporary feeling joy by getting rid of BO.
This while the real patriots, will lose hope while the Mitt the weathervane Romney occupies the White House, while our Liberties continue to vane and the New World Order continues to get a foothold in our country.
Do Not Trade Liberty for Temporary security.
Ron Paul or Gary Johnson is the only viable choice in this election.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 10:30am@THE REALIST..A lot of what you say is true..but what you did not say is that Romney has supported gay marriage..and abortion..and even though Romney didn’t “say ” that our taxes would sky rocket over his “belief” in global warming Cap and Trade.(he’s not stupid)neither are we. He supports the Patriot Act..NDAA..SOPA..bigger government..war..and Zionists..Zionist own him..Zionists are not Israel..Maybe you should google Jews against Zionism..We have been hijacked by the unFederal Reserve Rothschilds and your man Romney is owned by the banks.. Communism is where the world’s wealth is transferred to the elitists being the un Federal Reserve families..so don‘t tell us that he’s not a Communist or that he doesn’t work for them..He has supported gun control as well. The Presidents are nothing more than the spokesmen for the Federal Reserve.. And when you call people fools..you might try looking in the mirror.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slzZgmhH3Zk&feature=related
FlamingFartSyndrome
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 10:32amFunny how people cant see more than 5 minutes ahead at a time. Id rather have four more years of Obama, than 4 years of Romney and then 8 years of another Obama like politician. I mean cmon, Mitt Romney??? Hes not even a conservative. And you think he will turn this country around?? All he will do is give democrats a boost and make people believe that Obama and the progressives party is right. But on another note, anyone who truly believes Romney has a chance in hell to beat Obama is living in a box.
Report Post »dawgsfan
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 10:34amAnd Barack Obama thanks you. I can’t even imagine casting a vote for him (Obama) and make no mistake, by staying home that is exactly what you’re doing. Romney is no Ron Paul, for sure, but nor is he a communist, and that’s good enough for me!
Report Post »Swift Justice
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 10:39amThat’s some stupid math there M13….
Report Post »A vote for Obama is a vote for Obama…
A write in for Ron Paul is just that, a right in….
You will find a lot of us will not hold our nose and vote for the white Obama…
black9897
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 10:52am@4TRUTH2ALL
Hey man, I’m doing well. The problem is I just don’t trust Romney and can’t see him doing anything but put a band aid on a giant gash. What I mean by taking it is non-violent non-cooperation. No matter who wins, even if RP won I don’t need his permission to be free or anyone to make it ok/legal for me to do something I know is ok.
@HAPPYSTRETCHEDTHIN
What if the “partial payment” is still the total loss? Even if I agreed with 90% of what he did the many things I don’t like about him outweigh the rest. That’s great he wants to reduce taxes. Two things: 1, I don’t believe him and 2, taxation is theft so he should get rid of all taxation. Simply because he wants to lower the amount of money that is stolen from us doesn’t make him any less of a crook. If he was for ending the criminal organization known as the FED, then there’s a good chance he’d get my vote. This whole pay or go to jail thing we have is a giant part of the problem.
It’s hard to engage in the political system when it’s as messed up as ours is. Just because I’m not in the voting/political “game” doesn’t mean I’m out of the real game or can’t do something.
As I told 4TRUTH, no matter who wins I don’t need their permission to be free. I don’t need them to make laws, take away laws or tell me it’s ok. I would encourage everyone to start if they haven’t in non-violent, non-cooperation.
Report Post »The Realist
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 11:03amFlamingFartSyndrome
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 10:32am
“Id rather have four more years of Obama, than 4 years of Romney and then 8 years of another Obama like politician.” <–and that, ladies and gentlemen, is what you call a colossal jewel of naivety.
"I mean cmon, Mitt Romney??? Hes not even a conservative."
-You think we don't all know that? He's STILL NIGHT AND DAY difference over Barack O'Communist!!
"And you think he will turn this country around??"
-He'll DARN SURE slow it down!! When the train is headed full speed for the cliff, if the odds at slowing it down are better than the odds of stopping it completely-I'll slow it down and jump off. Apparently you guys are willing to risk going over with it.
"All he will do is give democrats a boost and make people believe that Obama and the progressives party is right."
I, and clearly most thinking Americans, would rather take their chances on that.
"But on another note, anyone who truly believes Romney has a chance in hell to beat Obama is living in a box."
Report Post »-Unfortunately FOR ALL THE WRONG REASONS, Obama has a VERY GOOD chance at being "re-elected" which is why many of us have been trying to talk some sense into you Paulbots. How can you actually believe, that we will still have FAIR and HONEST elections after another 4 years of Obama? Are you really not familiar with this evil man's corruption?
black9897
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 11:04am@THERIGHTSOFBILLY
Simply because RP would ask something of his supporters doesn’t mean I would listen. So no. He’s a grown man and can do what he wants. But I would be very disappointed in RP if he did that. Then again, he is a politician and as much as I like him and love his consistency, great ideas, and constitutionally sound beliefs, he is part of the gang of killers, thieves, and liars called “government.” Not that I think he’s a bad guy or dishonest, just the problem is bigger than one man. I don’t see why he would endorse Mitt. RP is the same guy who called Rick Santorum a fake on live TV during a debate. Mitt is certainly not real either.
Report Post »Freedom.Fighter
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 11:52am@ THE REALIST: A lot of what you say is actually just mere speculation, but much of it is just plain wrong. Most importantly Romney HAS trampled on the Constitution. His support of the bailouts, the Patriot Act, NDAA just to name a few. And those are BFDs!
Also, you are just falling back on the whole, “well, he’s better than Obama.” Even if that were somehow so, why would it matter? You still have a choice. Vote for someone you feel is the best answer. That does not have to be Dr. Paul, but that is who I feel is the best answer and I have never felt so good about a vote. Don;t let a corrupt party tell you who your choices are. If you do, you have already relinquished your right to vote.
Report Post »OnTheWinningSide
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 11:52amAnd God said, “Did you vote for a righteous man?”
Report Post »And the man said, “I voted for the lesser of two evils because I didn’t want to throw my vote away.”
And God said, “I didn’t ask you that. I asked you if you voted for a righteous man.”
Therightsofbilly
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 11:55am@BLACK9897
Thank you for the reply, and the honest answer.
I am glad to see that at least one of his supporters recognizes that he is indeed just another politician.
Here’s hoping that you change your mind and help us get the car at least part of the way out of the ditch,……..but if not,…………we’ll see what happens.
Report Post »myway2112
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 12:07pmYep, another vote for Obama. You Paul people need to get it together. Your candidate did not win, nor did he have a chance at winning. That being said, you guys get all miffed about the rules, you get upset because you feel it not fair and all, gee, where have we heard all that kind of whiny garbage before?… oh yeah from the lefties. Now you have two choices. Get behind Mitt and save this country or take the low road and take your toys and go home which equates to an Obama vote. Get over it and lets get on to making sure B.O. does not get back in the W.H. again.
Report Post »The Realist
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 12:16pmOnTheWinningSide
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 11:52am
“And God said, “Did you vote for a righteous man?”
And the man said, “I voted for the lesser of two evils because I didn’t want to throw my vote away.”
And God said, “I didn’t ask you that. I asked you if you voted for a righteous man.”
–Let’s see: Obama, the most-radical pro-abortion politician on planet earth, having voted at least twice against the Born Alive Infant Protect Act, Obama, the most Biblically hostile president http://www.wallbuilders.com/libissuesarticles.asp?id=106938 Obama, the man who promotes COVETOUSNESS, JEALOSY, ENVY more than any modern politician, Obama, who advances the GAY AGENDA…and Ron Paul, with his slew of anti-Semite comments and issues…yeah I think it’s pretty clear who is the righteous man is of the three. Thanks for playing though!
Report Post »The Realist
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 12:21pmHere’s the deal. We all tried to comfort ourselves last time, by telling each other hey…it took a Jimmy Carter to get a Ronald Reagan (believe Rush was the first or one of the first to say it) Regardless we figured that 4 years of MISERY AND DESTRUCTION would SURELY DRIVE US ALL back to a solid conservative president. How’d that work out? Newsflash: IT DIDN’T. So are we then, to play the same game? Hey lets throw more GAS ON THE FIRE, and just IMAGINE how GREAT the conservative will be after 8 YEARS OF OBAMA! YIPPEE! SCREW THAT INSANITY DAMMIT! Get the radical communist out NOW!
Report Post »Freedom.Fighter
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 12:26pm@MYWAY 2112: So you don‘t think Ron Paul and his supporters weren’t treated unfairly by Romney’s corrupt campaign?
Watch this video: http://leanforward.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/09/12649400-18-year-old-ron-paul-supporter-barred-from-gop-convention-slams-partys-corrupt-power-brokers?lite
Do you think how they treated these Republicans was fair? Try illegal. Romney seems to be a fan of Chicago politics too.
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 12:53pm@Realist
Report Post »Thanks for your compendium and clarity. FreedomFighter is right that much of it is speculation, but at least it doesn’t distort his promises, positions, and record. FreedomFighter can’t do that or he would be forced to confront his own illogical position. And in the end YOU’RE the one who argues correctly. I’m sure Winningside thinks he scored some rhetorical points, but his analogy to judgment day is flawed: there’s only ever been ONE righteous “man”. On judgment day, God will be asking more like “I put you in a land where you have responsibility for your leader, so why did you not use your power? I will take your power away and give it to the ones who used it wisely.” (sounds suspiciously like a parable I know…)
@Black
IF you’re right that the partial payment turns out to be the same total loss, you’d be right. A lot is at stake on that decision then. What I‘m saying is that you’re misreading BOTH Obama‘s AND Romney’s records if you can believe your assertion. Realist has compiled some CLEAR differences, so make your balance sheet, and pick the one MOST closely matching your philosophy who CAN change SOMETHING the way you want.
Now on taxes, you DO understand that Congress DOES have SOME taxing power, right?
Now on the FED, you DO understand that the alternative is allowing politicians to make monetary policy, which leads to hyperinflation, right? (Zaire, Zimbabwe, Weimar Republic, etc.) It needs audited, YES, but the idea is sound.
black9897
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 1:29pm@HAPPYSTRETCHEDTHIN
Yes, I’ve looked at what Realist has put.
I know. But that doesn’t mean taxation is right. Why’s that? Why can’t the alternative be a true free market where people can choose who to give their money to, based on a voluntary transaction? Instead of being forced to give money.
Do you think a service or product should be offered on a violent basis? (Taxation). The fact is the FED IS a criminal organization, no different than the mob or any other criminal on the street. The only difference is an “agent of the government” wearing a suit emails you his demands that unless you pay (under threat, duress, and coercion) they will violently throw you in a cage. Sounds like the land of the free to me; where you are forced to pay for services, forced to serve on a jury and, if “needed” forced to join the military. As Frederic Bastiat would put it, that’s “legal plunder.”
Report Post »myersdd
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 1:47pmBen Swann WXIX
3 FACTS ABOUT A CANDIDATES NAME BEING PLACED INTO NOMINATION AT THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION!
I have been in touch with a member of the RNC Rules committee over the past 4 days and have been able to confirm a few FACTS about the nomination process.
1. For a candidate’s name to be placed into nomination at the RNC you DO need a plurality of delegates from 5 states.
2. Binding and Non-binding distinctions DO NOT have an affect on nominating a candidates name. If “binding” is allowable by rule, (it is not) it would only pertain to a vote taken on the nomination, not the process of placing a name in nomination.
3. The Ron Paul campaign HAS the majority of delegates in the following 5 states: Nevada, Maine, Minnesota, Louisana, Iowa. He MAY have the majority in Massachusetts and Colorado.
I know he won the majority of delegates in Oregon! You all better start tracking the number of actual Paul delegates across the nation!
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 1:48pmYo Black9897:
Glad you are doing well … also glad to hear of the non-violent approach ( I was wondering a “little”). I know what you mean about the trust factor … feelin the same. I do KNOW this I have NO trust in the current occupier of the presidency. True freedom is in a mans heart given over to God (as you know). But I’d like that freedom to extend out the front door of my house also. I really don’t want to end up in Babylon pulling weeds for the king.
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 1:58pm@Black,
Report Post »I hate the character limit on these posts sometimes. I get the sense you could connect your arguments much better without that limitation (me too!).
Am I right that you find the IDEA of giving up a little money to support the essential functions of govt to be right and good, but that the govt has taken it too far by spending where it shouldn’t (eg. ed. dept) and taxing more than it should (eg. the unratified income tax amendment)?
Am I right that you think a fiat currency off the gold standard converts the currency into a promissory debt rather than a positive valuation?
You’re right about all that. But what IS the role of govt in the economy? Is it not to ensure fair standards and prosecute cheating? How is it NOT the role of govt to ensure a currency we can all use? The problem is that it‘s ALSO the govt’s role to SPEND money (on constitutional things only, of course), so what if it gets into debt? Can’t it just print more money and pay itself off? That would devalue the currency.
So what’s the solution, then? Do away with the Fed and you leave the printing presses in the hands of the same people who run up the debt, no?
I know, and you’re right: that’s what we already have. But inflation is MUCH more stable BECAUSE of the Fed than it was in those other countries I mentioned.
How else can it be done?
That’s a serious question!
What’s the Paullower solution?
p.s. Bastiat wrote against monopolies and socialism, not conservatism.
BigRik
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 2:03pmI think Ron Paul’s biggest problem is his supporters. I agree with a lot of what Ron Paul has to say but when I have gone on Ron Paul sites to try and discuss where I disagree instead of a reasonable discussion I was subject to personal attacks a charges of treason. If you are not willing to explain your position to people who disagree with you in part how do you expect to win an election?
Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 2:07pm@4TRUTH
Yeah, I believe in the non-aggression principle. I would love that to. Either way it’s probably going to get much worse before it gets better.
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 2:26pmThe blaze get it wrong again is this MSM? http://www.dailypaul.com/244779/ron-paul-on-his-way-to-tampa-plurality-achieved-take-the-podium
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 2:29pmhttp://www.dailypaul.com/244779/ron-paul-on-his-way-to-tampa-plurality-achieved-take-the-podium What happen to the truth starts here? Is the blaze turning into MSM ?
Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 2:32pmI have no problem with giving money for services. It’s not the “what” that I have a problem with; it’s the “how.” I would certainly agree printing more money only causes the already worthless paper to become even more worthless.
Paullower ? lol. Good one.
Well, I don’t know if you’d call it a Paullower solution, but it’s one where people have the freedom to choose what to do with their money.
As I’ve said, right now it’s pay or go to jail, and I think most honest people don’t think that a service or product should be offered on a violent basis. So instead of being forced to pay for something we simply need a TRUE free market where a group of people can offer their services on a voluntary basis. This is done every day with other things. Does subway or Wal-Mart make you pay for their food and products? Of course not. Why should protection (military, police, etc) be any different?
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Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 2:32pm. . . .
Due to pay or go to jail we can be treated in any way. Bad or good, right or wrong. Why? Because no matter what they still get our money, so it doesn’t matter how they treat us. That’s why you see so much corruption, police brutality/violating rights, laws that should never be approved/enforced, etc. I don’t ask myself why there is corruption, I ask myself why not? There is no way I can withdraw my support (well, besides leaving of course) because it’s all coerced. With a private company such as Target If they are corrupt with bad products, bad service, etc and I get treated bad or don’t like what I’m getting I can simply leave and never give them another dime as long as I live, so they either change or go out of business.
Report Post »tiredofbeingtired
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 2:37pmyes spud go ahead and vote for paul when obam wins just pat yourself on the back.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 3:27pm@STOPSPENDINGOURMONEY
From your link:
“Not all posts on this website are intended as truthful or factual assertion by their authors. Beware! NO post on this website should be considered factual information on face value alone. Users are encouraged to USE DISCERNMENT and do their own follow up research while reading and posting on this website.”
http://www.dailypaul.com/162294/daily-paul-disclaimer
Have you done your own research? If so, can you link us to it?
Who runs this “Unofficial” website?
Who are these “Authors”
Why should we believe that the truth starts there, instead of here?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 3:35pmI’m not claiming that the truth starts here either.
Just wondering why we should believe anything on that site?
Report Post »scarebear83
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 4:00pmA reason I will NOT support Ron Paul is because I’m deemed a Neo-Con if I don’t. I‘m deemed a racist if I don’t support Obama. I don’t like being called names. Now instead of everyone calling each other stupid for not supporting the other’s candidate how about just letting each other be and you vote your best interest. If Obama wins this election we‘ll then know it’s not because it’s this groups fault or that but because America is really split into 3 different groups not just the 2.
Report Post »FatFreedom
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 4:06pmIt is obvious that THEBLAZE, has done what it can this election cycle to thwart the Ron Paul campaign. Only after a barrage of negative comments on your hit pieces did you post a favorible article about Ron Paul and the refusal to talk about the Bilderbergers, and the attacks on Alex Jones for doing so al the while Glenn Beck have made a carrier of coying stories from Alex Jones!
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 4:15pm@Black,
Report Post »Thanks for the straight exchange!
I’m totally with you as far as coercion in a free market is concerned. When people are left free to choose for themselves what products and services to buy, they generally make the best choice for themselves, and both buyer and seller get something valuable from the exchange, prices stay low, but wealth gets created because people are acting on their own resources. As soon as govt force enters the equation, markets get distorted on both ends and the result is both loss of freedom and loss of wealth-buyers have less means to make their own choices, and sellers get less value for trading, therefore less incentive to trade.
I’m just wondering if you REALLY think things like a national military and police (from local to national) don’t form part of the BASE CONDITIONS for freedom, and free markets. If there’s no institution to put evil-doers in fear of punishment, what will prevent rampant cheating?
If you don’t have security of life, how can you pursue your happiness?
If the govt doesn’t guarantee the right to property, how can we have liberty?
These things ARE what the constitution DOES ask the govt to do. That IS the correct limit on govt. And govt SHOULD have just enough coercive power to compel people to support those functions with money so we all pay our fair share of it.
The rest is an argument about what “fair share” means, no?
ashestoashes
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 4:31pm@All who don’t believe Romney is a Communist..He did design Obamacare..did he not? And his campaign has been run in a dishones fashion.has it not..her in part is what West Coast wrote above.
Report Post »the vote was corrupted through the primary, and the fact that the Romney camp violated federal law in Massachusetts by forcing Paul delegates to sign a form under penalty of perjury to vote for Romney.
42 USC 1971 (b) Intimidation, threats, or coercion
No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, or Member of the House of Representatives, Delegates or Commissioners from the Territories or possessions, at any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any such candidate
As I understand..in the Russian Revolution.. when Russia tried to establish a democracy..this is what the Marxist/ Communist Lennin did to the delegates in the Democratic Parliament… With Mitt’s supporting of the taking of our Constitutional rights..through support of NDAA, SOPA , the Patriot Act.and gun control. and his being run by the Communist Federal Reserve..
black9897
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 5:04pm@HAPPYSTRETCHEDTHIN
That’s good to hear. Exactly, well put!
Oh, I do believe in a strong national defense and a justice system and a way to keep people accountable. Yes, that’s what it’s supposed to do, and if that’s all it did I wouldn’t have a problem. However, when people are forced to pay it causes less accountability and instead of doing business with a handshake it’s done with a gun, which I think is morally wrong. If a service is so good (which I think military and protection are good things) then why make people pay? I think 99% of people would voluntary pay for protection. I know I would! There’s an obvious demand for protection in the market, and that demand can and should be met with voluntary supply.
Report Post »DeniseR55
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 5:32pmPaul supporters are poor losers. ” Ron Paul didn‘t win so I’m going to take my vote and go home.” Whiners. If they really wanted to save this country, they would get out the vote and cast a vote for Mitt Romney in Nov.
Report Post »jsciai
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 6:15pmashy, ashy ashy,
Report Post »May I call you ashy? I’ll not address the “YOU CAN’T FORCE THE DELEGATES TO VOTE THE WAY THEY WERE VOTED IN TO VOTE” drival and poppycock–(be sure to thank west coast patriot for the cut and paste material.)
But I will address the idiocy of Romney being the architect of obamatax. I’ll not go into the MYRIAD of differences between the two right here. Instead I’ll leave a link to the best website I have found on the subject yet: http://mittromneycentral.com/resources/romneycare/
And I’ll this one thought: You are spouting the same chant as obama on this issue. It seems a bit strange that such a liberty loving patriot would use the exact words of his almighty comradeship to fight against Romney. I think you have outed yourself on this one, comrade. You guys kind of remind me of a biblical scripture about when Saul received his vision and was converted. Acts 9:5. And the Lord said , I am Jesus whom thou persecutest : it is hard for thee to kick against the ******.” Ashy, quite being a ***** kicker and stop persecuting Romney. That goes for the rest of you ***** kickers too! We‘ve got a country to save and you’re running around kicking ******. Stop it! Bad dog! Bad dog!
KrishnaDas
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 9:46pmYou hit a raw nerve with the neocons. They are going to tell you how important it is to vote for the national socialist versus the international socialist. They put themselves in this predicament by ending up with the guy who “has progressive views” (his own words) and was the architect of the individual mandate (Oh, it’s OK at the state level they will tell themselves). I guess trillions down the rat hole and precious lives lost on Iraq, or no-child left-behind, or prescription drug benefit, or how about the TSA groping you at the airport, or many of the other wonderful statist policies and programs that came out of eight years of “compassionate” George Bush “conservativism” wasn’t enough? Half-assed conservativism that doesn’t solve the problem and at the end of the term the idiot leftists point to the charade and say “see, liberty/conservativism doesn’t work?” you have only yourselves to thank.
A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama since they are the same essential thing with different rhetoric glazed on top to give you the false impression of choice in the puppet pageant. Now, go and do what you have done best for the past several decades and vote for the guy the oxycontin drug addict says to vote for.
Report Post »noczars
Posted on July 17, 2012 at 1:30amStop pretending you are not an Anarchists!!! If you do NOT vote for Romney, your vote is or ANARCHY
Report Post »TeaDestroyer
Posted on July 17, 2012 at 1:38amThe GOProgressives try and force you to vote for the other Obama. Nice work standing up for your principles.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on July 17, 2012 at 3:10am@TEADESTROYER
If you are truly a Paulie, and not just another owser that is trying to split the vote, why did you just sign on here 18 days ago?
Why so late to the party? :o)
Report Post »Smoovious
Posted on July 17, 2012 at 10:57am@DeniseR55
> … If they really wanted to save this country, they would get out the vote
> and cast a vote for Mitt Romney in Nov.
You seriously don’t have the slightest clue what the issue is, do you?
We do want to save this country, and that is the reason we won’t vote for Romney.
See… spoon-fed partisans like you, are so deeply programmed, that you can only think in terms of Democrat/Republican. You keep deluding yourselves that Democrat=Liberal, and Republican=Conservative.
This is all you can see, exactly what we are fighting against, want you to see.
But… we are Libertarians. We’re not bogged down with that programming, and think and reason for ourselves.
It isn’t about Dems/Reps for us… it is about Progressives vs Libertarians. We don’t operate on the same broken and totally inadequate left-right scale you do. Our left-right scale is, Progs on the left, Libs on the right. On the left of our axis, is authoritarianism/totalitarianism.
This is our fight.
Those of us who understand what being a Libertarian is, and understand what a Progressive is, see both Obama, and Romney, for what they really are.
Progressives.
They both have admitted they are, as have many of the other upper-echelon players in the Dems and Reps wings of the Progressive movement.
It isn’t the least bit about Dems/Reps for us.
It is about the Progs.
No way in hell, will we be voting for a Progressive. To us, they are the biggest threat to the nation.
Report Post »ChildofJesus
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:36amsorry he’s done if he was the one picked to run against obama I so wouldve voted for him. I just hope and pray romney isn‘t another mistake we’ll regret later on.
Report Post »OneTermPresident
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:42amI agree.. If Ron had come out on top he’d have my vote in a New York minute. The goal has to be to remove Obama and his administration.
Report Post »BSdetector
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:54amWell, I‘m pretty sure already that Romney IS another mistake we’ll regret later. We just have to buy time to get Tea Partiers in the next wave of congressional elections before we throw RINO Romney out in ‘16.
Report Post »football lady
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:00amRomney cannot possibly be a bigger mistake than Obama. What’s wrong you people. So if RP voters stomp their feet and pout by staying home, and Obama gets back in, then I guess you will not be commenting anymore, right? Nobody could be worse than Obama.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:02amHow could Romney be a mistake that you will regret later…Bow to the Federal Reserve Zionists..or rather kneel..
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:35amASHES: Federal Reserve ZIONISTS ? Hmm. Me thinks I hear the echoes of an Obamaton ! Yes. Our Obama “ I Hate Israel and American Capitalism ” Crowd. So transparent …even in a hoodie.
Report Post »Simonne
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:48amI’ve supported Romney since Jan. but let’s face it anybody should realize by now Romney is better than Obama. Obama will change America as we know it as there will be nobody or nothing that will stop him. He keeps going around Congress now & panders to groups by giving them taxpayers money.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:04pm@BARBER2 Actually Barber…perhaps you missed it..Obama was named as in the top 50 most influential “Jews” which should have read“ Zionists” of the year..Google it right here on the Blaze. There is a difference between Zionism and Judaism..Barber.. The Jews consider Zionists enemies and say they are the cause of the bloodshed in the ME..say that they have hijacked their symbols of the menora and the Star of David..Zionist are Communists..out for material acquition and world domination. Their were 150 thousand Hebrew Zionists in Hitler’s army..THey killed people of their own race..Hitler sent the ZIonists into Palestine to overtake it for the purpose of money to be made..you know the oil and all. Hitler was quite possibly the grandson of Mayer Amschel Rothschild..His grandmother had worked in his mansion when she became pregnant..Hitler was funded by them and the NWO companies like Kuhm Loeb Bank. Shell Oil .NWO secret societies like the Vrile and Thule in Germany ..In the last days..even the elite will be fooled, aligning themselves with the anti-Christ
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:22pmNow do the math. Independents and his core supporters will vote for him, but not Romney. Had he gotten the nomination, it would be a shoe in because people like you would vote for “Anyone But Obama”. Romney will not get our vote. So if the GOP really wanted to win, they wouldn’t have marginalized Ron Paul. Or perhaps they underestimated our loyalty to him and to freedom. They may have thought we would fall in line with Romney and the GOP. Nope, we sure won’t. If Obama wins, don’t blame us. Blame yourselves and the GOP for marginalizing his campaign and his supporters. We are no longer the type to vote for the lesser of two evils and our numbers are GROWING.
I’d rather have the devil I know, then the devil I don’t know, in office. I’d rather Obama be in office when our dollar collapses and the economy goes down the toilet then to have Romney in office when it happens. I know it will happen with either of them in office. I hope I’m wrong but I doubt I will be. The only way I’ll be wrong and not be happy that I was is if they manage to band aid the issue for at least one more election cycle. How many times can be band aid our problems?
I’d rather Obama be in control when the economy goes the way of Greece. After so many years after Bush, you can only blame him for so much. Then socialism and over spending government will be at fault. Under Romney, capitalism and free markets will be blamed for the collapse.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:48pmAmerican Soldier, Well said, now join me in communicating to all Paul supporters to write in Paul at any cost. Communicate to the disenfranchised Democrats to write in Paul. Follow this man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXhY1j3ZAMs
Report Post »To all Ron Paul supporters, delegates and alternates, go here and read these words: http://www.dailypaul.com/244682/winning-is-only-achievable-once-we-stop-living-in-fear
We are not done. We are taking over the GOP. We are the future of the GOP and we will not quit, we will not slink into the shadows, we will persevere, let these Republican wannabe’s get Obama re-elected and we will come back in 2016 with another Liberty candidate. We are more Republican than the present so-called Republicans and we will fix this party in the long run.
Individualism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:02pmnot voting for a member of a racist anti semetic cult.
Report Post »WEBWITHDEB
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:40pmWhy can’t all of us who do not want to vote for Romney, and will not vote for Obama, get together on ONE other candidate who will be on the ballot in all 50 states? Gary Johnson has a shot at this if everyone so disdained with the two false choices we are being offered — if ALL of us got behind him instead of splintering our votes up amongst others.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:39pmWebWithDeb, Sorry, I posted my response to you above. Here it is again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXhY1j3ZAMs
Report Post »Why don‘t all of you make an oath to write in Paul’s name? Take a stand, show principles, show all these neocons that we mean business. Do not do like they all did and run to other candidates over and over again.
RonPaulOrNoOne
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 5:18pmFoot Ball lady is just a typical coward. I love how you people flip it like us Paul guys are the bad guys. The way you disrespected us, what makes you think will join with you? If you guys do us dirty and break the rules all over again in Tampa. I will vote for Obama, just to spite you cowards on this web page.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 5:21pm@west coast. i’ll have follow your post But right now i agree with WWD. if Gary Johnson is on all 50 ballots we Liberty lovers should support him. We should support one candidate. RP has always stated that he would not run 3rd party.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 6:20pmCircledWagons, I appreciate your concern, but although Johnson has views that are similar to Paul’s, he just does not get the whole picture. He is for more federal regulations on certain things, he is for auditing the FED but, he is for trying to reform the FED, not abolish it. He is also federal regulations for gay marriage, and I just do not see that as a viable course. All these matters are for the state and the citizens who live in that state to decide. How we moved away from the Constitution is by federal regulations, which in turn allowed states to make laws against their citizens voices. All of this has to stop and it must be made clear that the Constitution is the law of the land, and any law, be it federal or state, that violates the rule of law, is an unjust law and must be removed. We need candidates that will guide us back to the total rule of law and end the tyranny. Dr. Paul is the only one that is willing to fight for this. NOONE but PAUL 2012.
Report Post »This is a little old but has the same meaning today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OV8RSgCr2g
FatFreedom
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 1:20amGod willing, Ron Paul will be on the ticket.
If not then vote for Gary Johnson and be part of the movement that saved America!
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 1:59amI will be at the Tampa fairgrounds (with a recorder) for the Paul love-fest, I need some comic relief. I will send the tape to Glenn. I live is Z-Hills, not far from the fairgrounds. Any Bots need a place to stay?
Report Post »WEBWITHDEB
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 6:25pmWest Coast, my only concern with a write in vote is whether it will even be counted. I really want to be part of a great election experiment to see whether or not ANYONE’s vote actually gets counted. That is why I believe getting behind ONE candidate who is on everyone’s ballot — that is not one of the two false choices — just might be the show of force that will rock this country back to its core . . . the Constitution. I am keeping my mind open and will be watching to see what transpires next month in Tampa.
Report Post »RealLiibertarian
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:34amI am not a Ron Paul supporter. His nonsupport for Roe and his ideas that what is not good on a federal level is fine at a state level makes me conclude that he is not the libertarian he claims to be. That said, he is at least a different voice in the game, something that we desperately need. He’s been sidelined by the pundits and the media, all of whom are slaves to the two party system. Governing this country is not a game with only two teams, but it is a sad and disgusting fact that that is the way the majority of people in this country see it. There are other parties in this country including the Libertarians and the Greens, but you will never hear anything about them from the media, beccause that would actually get people to think beyond D and R, something that people in power can never allow. We need 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th parties to break up the system. Winner take all for one party is just another way to ensure single party domination. If you want change in this country, don’t play the two party game.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:53am“We need 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th parties to break up the system. Winner take all for one party is just another way to ensure single party domination. If you want change in this country, don’t play the two party game.”
Spot on. The two parties have rigged the system to prevent any 3rd party from ever gaining traction. The ‘winner take all’ system where a candidate can win a state with <50% of the vote is a complete sham. In most democratic countries, they do not have winner take all….They have run-offs and coalition governments. The two parties have perverted the system to their advantage
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:13amSOY: Yeah, sure. Just like Europe, your real role model. Duh.
Report Post »Stalinist from Balkan
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:20amWhy would crypto-fascist (capitalist) elite in US want to spend money to buy more party members? Buying 2 is far more cheaper then to spend hard stolen bailout money on 4-5 different parties . Welcome to two (idiot) party sistem – fascist vision of cost efficient democracy. See you soon on some of the many WW 3 front lines.
Report Post »mark81150
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:27amSo you really think creating complete choas with multiple parties will bring Washington under control?
When the Hell has total confusion ever done that?
Without a clear majority vote, you have no mandate for change, and a parliamentary system is a joke. We are a representative republic, not a pure democracy, folks who advocate such are delusional that they can do anything except make sure nothing ever gets done.
Most folks would rather start another revolution than be ruled by the idiot greens or Paulites.. that is why you never win elections.
More bitter sour grapes from the sub minor parties nobody listens too. You can’t win a clear majority, or anything remotely close, so you want to ruin the system and pray it crashes. Hoping like the communists that in desperation, that the country will turn to the 2% who can’t even tie their own shoes right..
yeah,.. sure, you go on believing that.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:28am@barber
No, my role models are the founders. They did not want a 2 party system because they knew it would turn into the monster that we currently have.
Thanks for playing
Report Post »RealLiibertarian
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:37amSo Mark. You prefer to be ruled by tow party system, which is really a single party system since nothing ever changes, and both parties are taking your freedom away bit by bit. You must be happy in your little world, nothing to challenge you, nothing to think about, the party will do that for you. Freedom is risky, nothing guaranteeed and the reason people don’t like it is that they are scared. Libertarians are willing to take their chances, in life and with society, without worrying about what others will think.
But sure, vote for the single party Dem/Rep. They will protect you from the evils of the world, whether it be the nasty corporate raiders or the evil muslims.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:42am@mark81150
Report Post »you dont understand what i was talking about. From your posts above, i am not surprised
KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:55ambarber2
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:13am
SOY: Yeah, sure. Just like Europe, your real role model. Duh.
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Only Communists and members of organized crime dislike additional competition….
Report Post »ADNIL
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:04pmWhy not do away will ALL parties an let each man stand on his own merit? It would take a number of elections to narrow it down but anything would be better than what we have now: two parties that are different sides of the same coin and a few others that are more or less irrelevant.
Report Post »usedCZARsalesman
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:49pmADNIL…THAT is the perfect solution, make it like American Idol (LOL, totally kidding). Do a couple of states, toss out the bottom 25%…do a couple more drop the bottom 25%…by the time you hit the 9th primary state, you’d be down to 5-7 people. Carve that down to 2-3 candidates with the rest of the primaries, and then vote on them…I like it
Report Post »OneTermPresident
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:34amUnite.. it’s that simple and more important than ever. The goal is to rid America of the most corrupt president and administration in the history of our country.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:14amUnite! For what? THe NWO? Tell us one difference between Romney and Obama..One…besides the obvious like race and religion.
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:40am@Ash
Report Post »if you do not know by now any difference between Romney and Obama, you are either blind and not doing your duty and educating yourself….or just so blinded by your LUST for RP that you ignore what is presented…we don’t need to tell you, find out for yourself
sswanny
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:41am1. Romney believes that it is OK to make money and be personally successful.
Report Post »2. Apparently Romney doesn’t use racially divisive politics.
3. It seems he believes in states’ rights.
etc.
CatB
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:59am@ASHES
You Paul people slay me .. you are obviously misguided or Obama supporters .. .because NO LESS than the survival of the Republic is at stake … go see the movie “2016” it is opening nationwide on July 27th .. and then tell me that there is no difference in Obama and Romney. At least RAND Paul has had the intelligence and wisdom to ENDORSE ROMNEY.
Lesser of two evils my A$$ .. Obama IS TRUE EVIL! Romney is an AMERICAN.
(and no he was NOT my first choice .. but so what … I am not a two year old .. I can deal with it)
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:08am@VRW I have tried to find that out for myself..They both supported the Patriot Act…NDAA..SOPA.global warming Cap and Trade..bigger government..gun control..and both are financed by the banksters..so maybe you should try to find something that I have missed..
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slzZgmhH3Zk&feature=related
ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:31am@CAT I was like everyone else going along with the establishment quo..but I thought in the case of an emergency..there was always Ron Paul who could pull us out..Then after some investigation..I realized..Heck..this is an emergency! But ya know Cat..I put my faith in Jesus.. and I ask Him to lead me into all truth..and like a friend said..God has everything in His hands and everything that has happened has been prophesied.. guess it’s a little hard to let go of perceived control here on earth…you know..you always want the best for your descendants… I know that in Genesis 49:17 Jacob prophesies over his own son with Rachel’s maid..Bilah..Dan of which it is said the Rothchilds are descendants of..and he said “You will be the serpent that bites the heels of the horse, causing its rider to fall back..The difference between Obamney and Paul..is that the Rothshilds did not rule Paul. Those of which I spoke have caused wars from which they profited..murdered our Presidents..and Woodrow Wilson expressed regret at having let them back in.. watch utubes “Fabled Enemies”
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:47ammark81150
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:35am
.. that’s why you keep loosing,
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You mean “losing” (not “loosing”), don’t you?
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:03pmsswanny
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:41am
1. Romney believes that it is OK to make money and be personally successful.
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Romney also believes in taking money from Washington and redistributing it to the folks in Massachusetts:
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Report Post »“I am big believer in getting money where the money is,” Romney says on the video, “The money is in Washington.”
Individualism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:25pmor stop the the LDS communist take over of America.
Report Post »OneTermPresident
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:48pm@ASHESTOASHES… WHAT? You’re so blind you cant see the forest for the trees? Tell me you’re kidding..please. Have you been under a rock for the last 3.5 years? For Pete’s sake… Obama is a dyed in the wool COMMUNIST! You’ve got till November to figure it out and do whats right for the USA…
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:39pm@ONETERMPRESIDENT Yes Sweetheart..WHen Obama got elected..I told people in my realm..dems included..welcome to Communism..but the trouble is..is that to combat Communism..you would have to have a man who thought differently on the issues from him…We do not have that man..You can’t put lipstick on a pig..and expect a different pig..just a prettier pig..
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:31amTo: all of you idiots that say “Ron Paul supporters will hand Obama the election.”
How can you say he is unelectable, and not relevent, and a kook? Then turn around and say he will hand someone an election?
You need to make up your minds and pick a side. You can’t say both things out of the same side of your head.
I’ll write in Ron Paul, thank you very much. And don‘t say it won’t count, because I already checked my state laws, and I will be going to the polls Nov 6.
Report Post »OneTermPresident
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:37amWhat part of… a vote for Mr. Paul is a vote that only helps Obama don’t you understand? What part of he doesn‘t have a chance don’t you get? This is the most important election of your lifetime.
Report Post »RealLiibertarian
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:42amOneterm- for some of us, following our conscience and belief is more important than winning. Voting for someone you don‘t like and don’t support, just to beat another guy is a cop out.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:45am@Scottsman
I’ll try to explain this to you at your level. Most of the time, when a candidate’s votes can throw votes to someone else, it’s because that candidate is unelectable himself.
The main reason why Ron Paul is unelectable is because he’s not in the race. He lost the nomination.
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:45am@Scott
“I’ll write in Ron Paul, thank you very much. ”
That’s how you Paul followers will hand Obama the election.
Report Post »LongRange
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:48am@Scottsman, it will count as a vote for Obama… So you will have a hand in killing the greatest nation in history, over your right to vote for one of the losers in the primary. Very odd attitude sir.
Report Post »Minarchian
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:49am“This is the most important election of your lifetime.”
Says who?
I think I’ve read that in every election since Nixon.
I’m not buying it anymore.
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:54amNow you guys are really starting to sound like… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BcQpOGpxcI
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:56amyou guys are insane. Tell me how a ‘write-in‘ vote is a vote for Obama but a ’stay home’ vote (which will be hundreds of millions of people) is not a big deal….
Report Post »alinmatt
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:01am@oneterm…, the problem is that Romney still hasn’t earned my vote. To me and many others, we view voting for Romney as throwing our vote away. If Obama is cut off at the knees by congress and the senate, he’ll be a lame duck, but putting Romney in guarantees at least 8 more years of liberalism. If people like me fold, nothing in the future will change.
Report Post »When Obama was elected, we all got fired up and the tea party started. Look at what that got us – Romney. Apparently, America isn’t done drinking. How bad does it have to get before the rest of you wake up? Romney will maintain the status quo and lull everyone back to sleep as America continues slipping away.
qpwillie
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:02am@RealLiibertarian
What you don’t see is that you will indeed be voting for 0bama. It doesn‘t matter that you’ll do it through a write-in vote for somebody else. Your “conscience” is a bit screwed up or else it would bother you to be helping 0bama.
If you clearly don’t have a favorite in the race, don’t vote.
Report Post »football lady
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:08amRon Paul I have respect for. People like you who can handle the facts that Ron Paul did not win, I do not. You sound like a 6-year-old. Romney was not my favorite, but anybody other than Obama will be better than the corruption we have in the WH now. You calling others who disagree with you idiots sounds like liberals. Of course “pot” “kettle” comes to mind I have to admit.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:15am@Minarchian
Report Post »The fact is, our elections have been becoming more and more important as the communists were taking over the Democrat party. Now, we sit with our country on the verge of being completely destroyed. It’s not something that might happen or will happen at some future time. It’s already happening as we speak. 0bama himself has said it is about 70% complete. Four more years with 0bama and it will be 100%.
ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:24am@ALINIMAT..How could Romney not have one your vote? THere must be some flip flop speech you have missed..He does so try to please everyone..but he is a self proclaimed progressive..And it is like the rodeo clown said of Gingrich..there is no such thing as a progressive Conservative..Romney is a liberal running on the Conservative ticket..
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:33am@QP
You’ve miss read my post. I’m not a Paul “FOLLOWER”.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:40amQP. THEREALCONSERVATIVE is definately NOT in the encampment of pudknockers for Paul.
Jus‘ sayin’…
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 2:36pmWe warned all of you what we had in mind from the beginning. We will not be to blame for Obama getting another four, you will. You have been told we would write in Paul’s name, we are people of our word. Romney will not win without our vote and you well know it. I would rather have a lame duck second term with Obama and try again in four years (maybe all of you will have woke up by then) instead of putting in Obama lite (Romney) for eight. Get over it people, you have made your decision to re-elect Obama by your attitude of just going along with the Status Quo. Obama is not to be blamed solely for the destruction of our Constitution, Republican progressives like Bush had a lot to do with it also, Obama is just stepping on the gas. I will not vote for another progressive ever. I will fight to keep all Paul supporters to uphold their oath to write in Ron Paul. You Republican sheep will be to blame.
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Individualism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:01pmwere going to make sure Romney doesn‘t get it just like McCain didn’t but make the loss by a landslide.
Report Post »holy ghostbuster
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:30amI think Romney and the GOP will shut Ron Paul out of the convention.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:56amYes, if they are consistent – they will shut him out. Of course, they are only shooting themselves in the foot by doing so
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:27am“I think Romney and the GOP will shut Ron Paul out of the convention.”
We can only hope.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:39amI hear that OWS will be there, maybe Paul and his followers can join them, since they’ll be locked out.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:41am@ Time..I have thinking as of lately Time, that you will be one to be proudly rounding up all dissidents and executing them..HAIL HITLER! Time!
Report Post »alinmatt
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:00am@time…, what specifically do you disagree with Paul on that you wouldn’t want him speaking at the convention?
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:34amASHES. You’re such a drama q u e e n. Lmao.
ALINMATT. I have been writing for months and months the very reasons why Paul shouldn’t be POTUS. You are late to the party. And those are the reasons he shouldn’t be allowed to continue his mostly idiotic musings on this particular stage at this particular time. Shoo Ron Paul and take Lew Rockwell and Alex Jones with you…
As far as the Convention goes… why does Paul deserve to be given any further recognition by speaking at the GOP Convention? Romney is there to accept the nomination and give us HIS vision and his plan on beating Obama? As far as I’m concerned, Paul has done more for Obama and should go hang out at the Democrat Party Convention in place of all the Dems that won’t be attending. Heck, maybe Obama would have a beer summit with the old angry fart and strategize Paul’s continued vote splitting Dem support.
Paul hates Republicans and the GOP anyways… so why give him a continued platform to just drift off into the atmosphere with more nonsense and hate mongering?
Paul has had his shot, he had a campaign, he had a stage and he lost it… and lost most Conservative Americans in the process… again.
Screw Ron Paul… again. This beotch-slap of Paul should take the oxygen out of his space helmit and would be a perfect ending to his useless political career…
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:48am@TIME You make a good NAZI Zionist TIME.. I hate it that you don’t love freedom..I saw you talking to WEST COAST about how you guys had a big surprise for them at the convention..and I heard how a Paul delegate got beaten up and how you guys changed the rules to strong arm Paul out..And don‘t think that I don’t know how the Rothshild owned media never gave Paul any media Time..It’s the same ole Rothchild establishment quo in which you fit nicely..but TIME ..you will meet God one day..as we all will.. You are standing with the anti-Christ.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:05pmASHES. C’mon brother get it ALL out. I’ve got some R LEE ERMEY (GEICO) tissues for your issues…
Hey, blame Paul’s demise on me. I’ve got big, broad shoulders and can take each and every one of Paul’s whiney wussies for a wevowution on them. Lol.
Gotta’ blame somebody right? Don‘t ever take the heat yourselves for your Dear Leader’s failings… just pass the buck and make excuses like the good Liberally educated teenagers that you are. Gimme‘ a trophy too crowd of ner’e-do-wells just like your leftist counterparts… nothing more.
Report Post »alinmatt
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:13pm@time.., “why does Paul deserve to be given any further recognition by speaking at the GOP convention?” Because without Paul supporters, Romney will lose.
Report Post »I am reserving my vote until Romney moves my direction. My vote is all I have for influencing this election and I, along with many others, will reserve it to twist the arm of the republican establishment. I will not fall in line just because Romney has the nomination. He’s a piss poor candidate and does not reflect constitutional values.
After 4 years of Obama, the best Republicans can come up with is Romney? This country is screwed either way. At least people started waking up under Obama, but they’ll go right back to sleep under Romney.
Those of you who continue to roll over for candidates like Romney out of fear from guys like Obama are the reason we are knee deep in socialism.
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:29pmALINMATT. I wouldn’t give yourselves too much credit and flatter yourselves regarding your vote or lack therof regarding Romney. We are counting on the fact that Obama’s minions are much less apt to drag their @sses off Mom’s couch this time around for various reasons.
That alone will write equal you out come November…
Here‘s a happy song for the long faced Paul supporters by the Travelling Wilbury’s… End Of The Line…
http://youtu.be/9MeyNexKasw
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:29pm@TIME You know that Romney could not have won without the RNC and the Media. Whoruns the RNC? Same people who bring you the Dems….And I am sure that you know that you had nothing to do with the placing of Romney..It is all the Federal Reserve Rothchilds..You know full well that they placed Obama and Romney..you are just on the winning side..because we all know the winning side is always the side with the most money..the Rothschilds. I used to be where you are TIME..but I try to learn..I figure if you take everything that you think you know for granted that it is true..and don’t investigate it for ourselve..then how can we get beyond any untruths that we have been taught..say like the Muslims, the Catholics or the Protestants or any reiligion for that matter. We need to seek the counsel of God almighty..to learn the truth..and be open to it..God knows all and there is a reason for everything that has happened in our history..although thanks to a Zionist/Communnist owned media..we have been shielded from knowing the truth..
Report Post »The truth is Time is that the Federal Reserve is our President..the man who bears the title of President is just the Spokesperson.. Amschel Rothchild..”give me control of a nation’s money..and I care not who is the President..
alinmatt
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:14pm@time, yes, you are counting on Obama’s minion’s not getting off the couch. If you threatened to take social security away from seniors, do you think they would get off the couch? With healthcare, the threat of losing a freebee will get the minion’s up, it may be the most work they do all year, but they’ll get up.
Report Post »You are quick to discount my vote, yet all of you establishment types are out here telling us a vote for Paul is a vote for Obama.
I will repeat myself. My vote is all I have for influencing this election. Many men have died to give that right to me and I will honor them by milking my one vote for all its worth. Romney doesn’t deserve my vote, he has to earn it. It’s nice (for guys like Romney) that you give yours away so easily.
West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:28pmTime_2 is one of the biggest sheeple on this site guys. His only purpose was to bash Ron Paul every chance he got. He, in my opinion, is what is wrong with America today. He can bash me all he wants, he can bash an honorable man and praise an un-honorable man all he wants. We Paul supporters must stick together, write in Pauls name whether it is allowed or not and show these idiots how powerful we really are. Maybe after another four, they will listen to us a little bit more in 2016. Stay the course, vote for the only candidate that is for Constitutional principles and we will win in the long run. We will take over the GOP and kick people like Time_2 out.
Report Post »r3VOLution 2012!!
Individualism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:02pmThere communists and that is what they do.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:52pmLEFT COAST. Your dislike for me and my opinions are warranted. I’ve had your number since I first met you on here. You’re kind of like bathroom graffiti at a highway rest stop (dial LEFT COAST for a Ron Paul hootenanny/circle jerk… BYOP… bring your own protection)…. ha!!!
Report Post »LibertyOrDeath12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:33pm@TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12 – You had nobodies numbers. Your just a typical slave to the establishment0 Doing what your told like a good little slave you are.
Report Post »espersemper
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:27amDemocrats need to see the options of America in this falling world. Just as Ron Paul supporters.
It is a big world and a big piece of it is already in our Government ruling for the enemies.
Who can say Obama is really doing a good job? Mitt Romney might need Paul or his son in this new hope for America.
Counterproductive thoughts wont get there. Poor sports never win.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:46amyeah obama is the lesser evil for sure.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:01amINDI: Well, at least you have declared who you really support ! NEWS FLASH: Obama Trolls finally outed.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:05amwell hes not my first choice or anywhere close, and i honestly don‘t really like him but we can’t have Romney as president, got to stop that from happening.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:15amINDI: No. We can not have another four years of Comrade Obama. Got to stop THAT from happening.
Report Post »jsciai
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:23pmHey Barber,
Newsflash–these anti-romney obamatons and in the game for one main reason–They hate Romney being a mormon. Plain and simple. That really is the only reasonable explaination. They have moved the debate from ‘differences in politics’ to ‘obama is the lesser of two evils.’ Give me a break. There was a recent article on Romney and religion and these guys posted the most vile and disgusting comments that revealed them for what they are-religious bigots. Once you jump that shark there is no turing back or reasoning with them.
I feel most folks that are Ron Paul fans do not have that type of bias and will be more than glad to get rid of obama by voting Romney. The hard core bigots, of course, will not. They will vote for the devil himself before Romney. I guess they kind of are.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 12:21am@JSCIAI, That’s such collectivist crap. I‘ve seen what your talking about and it’s isolated. The most hated groups on here are nonbelievers and Muslims. There are three reglarlar posters who support RP that believe Zionism is an issue, I’m not sure they consider Zionism and Judiasm the same, and one RP supporter that has spoken out about Mormons being a cult. Whereas the last poll conducted by the Blaze; 85% of the folks on here would not support a nonbeliever as president. And for the record, I’ve openly disagreed with both, although I’ve been unable to disprove their claims. So take your Al Sharpton tactics and shove it.
Report Post »jsciai
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 1:57pmjustangry,
Report Post »Let’s wait until there is another article on the Blaze @ Romney‘s religion and then we’ll talk. Even right here in this article, one of your paulbot soldiers, individualism, is spouting off about preventing the lds, I guess he means mormon, takeover of the USA. Like, how in the world would that happen? But, it plays to the fears and bigotry of folks and, I don’t know, makes him feel like a big man?
hey, if you aren’t a bigot, my apologies but I am ALL about uniting the people of this nation to defeat obama. Romney is the man and that’s that.
yeah, yeah, I know, write in RP, blah, blah, blah, gary johnson, blah, blah, convention takeover, blah, blah, blah. Whatever.
Ohello
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:26amThe productive people of this country need to protest by standing still and not producing between the hrs of 8am & 10 am every Monday & Friday until income tax is repealed.
Report Post »oldchevyguy
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:36amMost union workers already do that.
Report Post »Ohello
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 1:11amIsaid productive ones
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 10:44amSounds like a good plan to advance the Republican plan to destroy the country.
Report Post »Louis_G
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:25amWhy Paul supporters believe they deserve to have such a prominent voice, when they were such a tiny section of the electorate, is beyond me. Nationwide, they were lucky to average 15% of the primary voice. In Nebraska they only received 10% of the primary vote, compared to Romney’s 70% and Santorum’s 14%. IF Paul’s supporters had been successful in hijacking the NEGOP convention, it would have been a travesty, where the minority trampled on the rights of the majority.
Saying that, I do believe that the GOP convention should be a place for ALL conservative voices to be heard. Not just Romney’s, and not just Paul’s. But it should not be based on who can gather a few handfuls of people that will shout the loudest.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:32amOh there are going to be conservatives there? lmao
Report Post »grumpyt
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:42amDoes ANYONE else hear the word “Party” being used as it was in the old Soviet Union? The all powerful “Party” is our problem! R’s & D’s are destroying this country and most of the electorate refuse to open their eyes to that fact the choices being presented are not the best.
Ron Paul and his son are the only “last best hope” for the US. Those that want to shut Dr. Paul up are just whistling past the graveyard. Mitt Romney is NOT the best choice, he is the only choice we have been given.
AND YES, I am OLD and grumpy.
Report Post »mark81150
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:50amgrumpyt
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:42am
You’re out of your mind if you compare the GOP to the Soviet system… Just because you delusional Paul lost in a classic curb stomping, doesn’t make your hateful hyperbole real. He lost because he is A. a colossally bad candidate, and he has this insane need to screech “warmonger” at those who disagree with him.. which is just about everyone.
When you loose as badly as you did, with a miniscule amount of supporters.. maybe you should rethink just who the deluded one is here. People vote two party, because the democrats have the left wing vote locked up,.. and the sane have gravitated to the GOP.. and really you decry the two party system, only after your boy resoundingly lost in it.
That’s bitter sour grapes from the lunatic fringe, nothing more.. if there were a rational sane third party, it would win.. when you find one let us know.. the libertarians aren’t sane, or the greens, the conservative party hasn’t had time to build traction yet, but we will see about them.. but I doubt you’d vote for them.. too many Joos for a Paul voter.
Report Post »blaze7c
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:30pmMark,
Report Post »You just keep on getting raped by the TSA. Don’t forget about being detained forever without any trial or any say so whatsoever. Keep thinking that there is a Jihadist under your bed ready to kill every single one of us poor, stupid, defenseless Americans. You are a little wimp with a big mouth. Keep doing what you are doing, and you might just get a sticker for being such a good little boy.
American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:29pmWhen the margins are tight, and Obama wins by less then a 10-15% margin, you’re going to wish you had our votes.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 5:00pmYup they cheated us. They ignored us. We got bashed from the media. The GOP lied all the way through. They broke our fingers. our hips, threatened me and my family. The GOP are criminals and so is Obama’s Campaign. You want to threaten me? Go for it. But I am still going to Tampa with thousand of my followers and they are my followers. You think this is a joke? Will make sure Romney looks bad and loses. You need us and you treatment was horrible so I’ll never back with you coward Romney guys. I hope your ready for war. A real one on the streets.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 5:03pm“[...] not be based on who can gather a few handfuls of people that will shout the loudest.”
“It does not take a majority to prevail… but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”
Representative Republic. Where the minority can still affect change. Otherwise, we would be a Democracy, which we are not.
Report Post »Ohello
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:22amIf Romney wants Paul’s organizational support, he would be wise to allow him to speak, then advocate platform positions that support foundational principles in the Constitution.
Report Post »1. Eliminate the income tax. Pitting the individual against the Feds where money is concerned is an extreme example of social injustice.
2. Protect both southern & northern borders
3. Audit the fed then arrest it’s owners and return to the gold std.
4. Bust up every company & bank that is too big to fail, monopolies are already illegal.
5. Eliminate department of education,TSA, BATFE, IRS on income tax activities.
6. Downsize the govt so that it costs no more than 10% of GDP
justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:27amFigure the odds that’s going to happen. Romney wants the same thing Obama does.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:59amYea if the republican party were committed to that platform – a lot of us would be more supportive
But, Romney is pretty much the exact opposite of those points you listed. I would post the links but we have done it so many times and doesnt look like anyone follows them
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:05pmNah, why would Romney take up any of those platforms? We Paulites aren’t a big enough crowd to give two hoots about according to the progressive crowd here. Of course, when Romney doesn’t show us real conservatives any love then loses, all of a sudden it’s our small barely noticeable crowd that is at fault for voting for someone else besides the Obama/Romney ticket.
Suck it up Romnoids, most of you hated him before you were for him (y’all wanted Santorum mostly) so you can have your flip flopper candidate or the current Marxist in Chief, but we won‘t won’t support you or either of the supposed 2 choice.
We’d rather lose and keep our integrity than take the crumbs from a dying ideology.
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:06pm@OHELLO
Your list covers pretty much what ALL Conservatives and Libertarians want.
I’m not crazy about Romney, but between our two choices, Romney offers a better chance of fulfilling your demands than Obama. With a Conservative/Libertarian majority in the House and Senate, and a non-Marxist administration, I have to believe our country still stands a chance to recover.
Vote Romney into the White House and the TEA Party will hold his feet to the fire. If Romney’s NOT elected – we’re doomed. Obama will veto everything that crosses his desk, continue to abuse his power, pal around with our enemies, radicalize the court systems, and strengthen the power of all the departments you/we want dismantled.
Now a word of thanks to Ron Paul and all of his supporters. Thank you for waking up America and standing firm on your convictions! You have stopped many of us in our tracks and forced us think. We may not agree on everything, but we agree on one thing — our country is in trouble. I hope we can set aside our differences long enough to get Obama out of office. You may recall, during one of the early debates, Ron Paul stated that anyone on the stage would make a better President than Obama. ……. RON PAUL WAS CORRECT – and I agree with him 100%.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:20amPaul may end up causing Obama to win, and that could be a big problem for all of us, if he tries to split the vote! I like Ron and all, don’t get me wrong, but he doesn’t have the support necessary. If we don’t all band together, conservatives, independents and libertarians to vote this monster in the WH out, we are cooked!
Report Post »Mgui35
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:44amAll we will be doing is electing a more moderate progressive with Romney. If the Republican party refuses to place conservatives on their tickets, then I want no part of them. Why should I or anyone else be forced into a box?
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:45amthat will not happen, they hate romney more than obama and as it is social conservatives many of them will not show up at the polls for romney and now independents are going to Obama now. so game over Obama wins relection, try again 2016.
Report Post »Jessff00
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:49amI hope this happens. I hope the vote does split and the communist trader in chief does get re elected. Then MAYBE YOU JACK A $$E$ WILL PULL YOUR COLLECTIVE HEADS OUT OF YOUR COLLECTIVE A $$E$ AND VOTE FOR LIBERTY!!!!! YOU VOTED FOR CHANGE THE FIRST TIME…..WHAT CHANGE IS THERE FROM OBAMA TO ROMNEY??? ID IOTS ALL OF YOU…..
Report Post »swalt
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:54amMG … if you DON”T vote for Romney you WILL be handing your vote to Obama. The difference? Romney is NOT a communist and Obama is a communist. So, go ahead you and all your Paul-bots, either write Paul in or don’t vote at all and you hand the keys to the White House back to Obama for another 4 years and the country is toast.
Report Post »swalt
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:02amOMG!!! You Paul-bots are acting like little children who are being made to eat your vegetables! You would rather the US goes down in flames than eat your peas??? WAKE UP YOU FOOLS! This country is in trouble and you are all acting like it’s only another 4 years! If Obama is re-elected the US won’t be here in 2016 … it will be another 3rd world country and we will be in the middle of a civil war like Syria rught now. Is that what you idiots want? Romney is NOT a communist! Obama IS a communist!
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:03amListen Unix and Swalt…..If the republicans wanted to have our support, they would have done things much differently over the last couple years. They chose to deny/ignore/demean Ron Paul’s ideas. Why would we jump on board? It was always in the Republican party’s hands and they have made it clear they do not want our support. So why do you cry about our vote now?
Report Post »Jessff00
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:34amAmen soybomb…. These little pieces of $hit run around all election season making fun of the what they call paulbots and then when its time for the nut cuttin they want to cry because there little puppet b#tch cant get elected without us….well so be it!!!!! I AM TIRED OF VOTING FOR THE BETTER OF TWO EVILS!!!! IT IS TIME TO TAKE A STAND!!! IF IT TAKES THE FALL OF THIS COUNTRY TO WAKE YOU DUMB A$$E$ UP THEN SO BE IT!!!! I will not compromise my values, liberty, and FREEDOM JUST SO WE CAN GO THROUGH THE SAME THING IN 4, 8, 12, OR HOWEVER MANY YEARS IT WILL BE!!! NNNNNOOOOOO!!!! THIS SH#T STOPS NOW….IT HAS GOT TO COME TO A HEAD….IF IT TAKES A WAR….SO BE IT!!!! PICK A SIDE YOU PIECES OF $HIT…BECAUSE ONCE IT STARTS…IT WILL BE TOO LATE!!!! COME AND TAKE IT!!! STOP HIDING AND SHOW YOURSELF COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST/FACIST/PROGRESSIVE/LIBERAL/DEMCRATS SO WE CAN DESTROY YOU!!!! Maybe, when obama wins and starts running the country like a dictator….just maybe the football games, american idot, jersey shore, and all the other trash that has brainwashed the majority of the nation will be turned off and people will wake up and grab thier guns…..just maybe……btw I dont like peas….hahaha
Report Post »jespasinthru
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:55amHasn’t it occurred to the Paulbots that the geezer is just too old and frail to handle the rigors and stresses of being president? That‘s one of the main reasons why rational voters won’t support him.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:55amJess…
No need to be angry. Don’t worry. Paul will be back in ‘16. and in ‘20. and ‘24. and ‘28. and ‘32. and ‘36. and…well, you can do the math.
Report Post »DemonaLyn
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:16amYep and when Obama/Romney finally remove the rest of our rights as individuals, people will be gripping about it. Its really sad, how todays sociaty think they all deserve handouts and its owed to them in some way or form. If the people today had to work like our father and forefathers had to, don’t think they would be so gun-ho and handing over the power to the gov.
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:19amI agree.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:33amI blamed the democrat party for years for creating the welfare state,now we have one party,the big government party and it will continue the welfare state until there’s nothing left. The generation that went through the depression handled it well because they didn’t have the sense of entitlement.
This generation that will go through our next depression that‘s coming soon everywhere won’t handle it the same way,I can see a civil war coming.
Report Post »wilsonj72
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:15amRon Paul
Lying, deceiving and manipulation are natural talents for Sociopaths. Given their glibness and the facility with which they lie, it is not surprising that Sociopaths successfully cheat, bilk, defraud, con and manipulate people and have not the slightest compunction about doing so. They are often forthright in describing themselves as con men, hustlers or fraud artists. Their statements often reveal their belief that the world is made up of “givers and takers,” predators and prey, and that it would be very foolish not to exploit the weaknesses of others.
Some of their operations are elaborate and well thought out, whereas others are quite simple: stringing along several women at the same time, or convincing family members and friends that money is needed “to bail me out of a jam.” Whatever the scheme, it is carried off in a cool, self-assured, brazen manner.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:16pmwilsonj72
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:15am
Lying, deceiving and manipulation are natural talents for Sociopaths.
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You mean like all of Romney’s flip-flops that are playing on YouTube right now?:
YouTube: “The Ultimate Mitt Romney Flip-Flop Collection”
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:12am“Insurgent”? Now the blaze is guilty of being the same MSM from 2008. Here we go.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:22amOh they’re miserable f**ks like the rest of the establishment shills. They‘ve shown their hand that they’ve rejected god’s law and our traditions.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:42amI like the term “insurgents”… been using it for months now.
I also like to describe Paul “acolytes” as miscreants, malcontents and mediocre.
I don’t see a problem with stating the proven and obvious…
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:55amTIME2 I see you‘re still suffering from PDS Paul derangement syndrome and you haven’t seen the psychiatrist as I‘ve advised and you should overcome your irrational fear of drugs because I’m sure there’s some psychotropic drugs that could help you.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:57amTIME: don’t forget the anarchists who are attracted by the “ no rules ” business. They are just like the undisciplined, druggie OWS crowd . Heck, they are all ONE. Convention ?
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:11amSLAYER. Picture me as R LEE Ermey posing as a psychiatrist in a GEICO commercial and throwing a box of tissues at all you Paul supporters living in Namby Pamby Land…
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:16amBARBER2. There will be lots of “insurgents” being thrown in jail at Convention time.
This is my prediction. There will equal part Paul insurgents/OWS’rs thrown in jail for being… miscreants and malcontents. There will be a large “showing of the @ss“ on a national stage by both insurgent and revolutionary camps that are ”in-the-tank” for Obama…
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:45amTIME: agree. These anarchists have been dying for a “ revolution” ever since Obama got into office. All part of the master plan. They think conservatives are too dumb to figure that out. All Smoke and Mirrors by the international Lefties and their OWS anti-capitalist best buds. Hope the convention planners and cops are ready …I’d gladly volunteer. Send these little losers back to mom’s basement or the nearest Obama campaign head-quarters.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:24pmBARBER2. I’ll be there for the festivities.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:47pmbarber2
Dont you know crazy conspicary theories make you look crazy? Dr Paul actually secretly working er pulling for Obama? Or “national socialist”? . Its certain ideas of civil liberties or foreign policy that Dr Paul go across the isle. Time criticies Dr Paul for not fighting in the gulf of Tonkin never happened war, but hell neither did Rommney. In fact Rommney was protesting student who were protesting the war. Im sorry the fake war. Lol Rommney. Only he could be the do the complet opposite of what the people were talking about. He does not care about us.
Only Goldman Sachs will win the election.
Report Post »snapperman
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:11amRomney has to show INclusivity.
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:11amI would bet that Mitt will grant him speaking time as long as his rabid supporters are behaved. It finally is time to start moving forward rather than constantly bickering with Paul supporters.
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:18amMove forward to what? More government take over? More wars? More deficit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BcQpOGpxcI
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:25amScottsman,
It’s supporters like you that will assure that Ron Paul is NOT heard at the convention. Grow up and lose gracefully.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:30amYup, keep moving forward to that NWO. Um, when we’re proven right will you be around so we can rub it in that we told you so?
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:35amOLEFROMMN,
Can you answer the 4 questions?
Nope, won’t lose gracefully and be sucked into the borg like you.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:56amWell said OlefromMN.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:05pmits your people murdering Muslims in their countries.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:21pmYou guys just do not get it, do you? We are going to ensure that Romney does not win, period. You will not change our stance, we do not care, at this point, if Obama is re-elected. That will be you people that cause it to happen. We are not living in fear as you do. We stand by our principles and do not compromise them as you do. Get ready for a defeat in November, prepare with food, water, ammo, gun powder and re-loaders. You may just need these supplies when the government starts to come around for your weapons. I and many Paul supporters are well prepared for what is about to become reality, Obama as POTUS for another four and tyranny becoming so great it will destroy our world.
Report Post »How can you sway us if we are prepared for the worse? You cannot.
Thescorcher
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:10amMakes you wonder why this wasn’t a big story all along. We had to hear about it after it’s over.
Why the hell do you guys want Romney. He will not restore anything, he will just fix the mistakes Barrack made and we will go back to 2007.
What you people failed to realize is that Ron Paul is our best chance to get the people back on track. Good job confusing them into thinking Ron Paul is an enemy of our best interests. Not one of the big Republicans had the balls to step up to the people who really hold the power in the republican party and support Ron Paul.
Limbaugh and Beck should of supported Paul. He agree’s with them on more things than the other 2. They just don’t like how he views Iran. Which is basically them saying that the people who have control over me told me to support Romney.
All of them said they wouldn’t support anyone until it was clear who the republican presidential nominee would be. They know the popular vote doesn’t mean much, and that its the delegates who count. So why did they support Romney after all the other candidates stepped out and it was Romney and Paul? Romney is Obama without the Health Care law.
ALSO Ron Paul has the best shot at convincing Obama supporters that they were lied to. Example he convinced me and many of my friends(Ex-obama supporter in 08). So republicans you really messed up this time, you had the key to our nations future and you decided to destroy his reputation instead.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:19amAnd then silence…..
Thats what happens when you talk about facts and reason around here. Thanks for the post. I am sort of involved with the Ron Paul campaign and he has converted a great many former Obama supporters into Constitution and freedom-loving voters.
It seems to me that God has withdrawn his protection from this country – we are seeing an example of what happens to a country when leaders become more interested in themselves than God
Report Post »Plowboy1065
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:10amPaulbots will hand Obama the election. They have no clue about how Clinton came to power
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:16amYou a such an ******* idiot. Go vote for B.O.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:18amIf we’re such an insignificant number,not even enough to get Paul a slot at the convention then how can us constitution lovers affect the outcome of the election? Progressive Romney should be a lock over progressive Barry.
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:23amYou are the same kind of person who says “Ron Paul is un-electable” then turns around and says Paulbots will hand Obama the election. Which is it? One or the other…Stop being a hypocrite.
I heard this same garbage in 2008 and it starts flowing from Hannity and O’rielly until it comes out of your mouth.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:45amScottsman
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At this point in history he is unelectable, unless you think 6% of the vote is a winning number.
KickinBack
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:27amHey Scottsman…
Party at FEMA camp 33!..Woot! Woot! Raise the roof!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se49-k9zMi8
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:12pmthe economy did well under clinton.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:10amAh shucks. And here I thought we had a chance at keeping our freedom. It’s ok the social security junkies who are afraid of their own shadows despite claiming to have found salvation will be taking a dirt nap soon. Welcome to the NWO where our rights come from men.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:26amFor all the talk of these so called conservatives about freedom they sound pretty dense to me,they’ll put up another McCain for the slaughter.We had a constitutional conservative in Paul and he was rejected,we can thank the public school monopoly for their thorough indoctrination of the populace and their revisionist history teachings. We have a one party system,the big government party and Mitt will perpetuate it and Barry will have it burn the constitution entirely.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:35amThey’re comfortable and afraid of freedom.
Report Post »fldammy
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:44amRon Paul is another Soros puppet to make sure we got Romney.
http://web.gbtv.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=20045865&topic_id=24584158&tcid=vpp_copy_20045865&v=3
Then it’s really interesting that Peter Thiel, the man who is now slated to replace David Rockefeller as the head of Bilderber Steering Committee, was Ron Paul’s sugar daddy for $2.5M super PAC monies:
http://www.dailypaul.com/239497/peter-thiel-bilderberg-member-gave-ron-paul-25-million-red-flag-anyone
Ron Paul and his supporters were played like a fiddle by the NWO so no real conservative would win the GOP nomination. Either we vote for a socialist or the Marxist in power will have absolute naked power over America to continue to make us into a Marxist State with even more bold imperialist Executive Orders and fiat regulations while ignoring existing laws he doesn’t like. I don’t like Romney, but I sure as Hell don‘t want Obama in there when he doesn’t have to worry about re-election ever again. All thanks to Ron Paul and his supporters, bet you all are proud now.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:33amFLDAMMY, Quit being a downy. Nationalism which RP stands for is the opposite of what Soros, Romney and Obama stand for.
Report Post »pudssweetie
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:34pmThank you FLDAMMY for posting this and bringing it to light. I did my own research on Sustainable Defense Task Force when it was first mentioned back in 2010. I was shocked that Ron Paul would do anything with Barny Frank especially with Franks track record. I was even more shocked and appalled when I found out that some of the people they hired to be on this task force are connected to George Soros. You cannot be for the Constitution, Liberty, Freedom and want fiscal responsibility when you hire people who are connected with someone who despises our Constitution, our Liberty, our Freedom and want nothing more to destroy us fiscally.
Report Post »rickc34
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:09amWe need to focus on getting Obama out of office. As conservatives with need to stand together .
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:26amAgree. Especially since the diabolically clever Lefties will pursue their Plan B : “Divide the Dumb Conservatives ” to add votes to the illegals and the dead people they are counting on to assure an Obama victory ! Heck, these guys didn’t study their Alinsky community organizing tricks for nothing ! ( don‘t you wonder what courses were listed on Obama’s secret / hidden school records ? )
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 3:28pmDon’t be a fool Barber. Obama didn’t want to run against RP either. The left marginalized him as much as the right. Power men are terrorfied of returning to the idea of natural law. They don’t want our rights to come from a higher authority.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:08amRon Paul aka H. Ross Perot is trying his damnedest to insure another 0bama win.
Report Post »TxGold
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:11amYou are exactly right about that!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:12amYeah, I still don’t think many of will support Romney. Maybe the GOP will think about that next time around. We‘ll still be around provided they don’t get rid of us.
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:14amThat is not what he is trying to do, he’s trying to restore liberty, make money worth something, and get the TSA out of our pants.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:24amActually, i think that he is trying to spread his message; the message of cutting $1 trillion, protecting civil liberties, ending the fed, and bringing our troops home. The republicans are the ones ensuring an Obama victory, even if by proxy, by supporting a candidate (Romney) that supports the majority of Obama’s policies ( the individual mandate, gun control, out of control spending, and foreign intervention ).
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:45amOn the flip-side… Ron Paul aka… Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche, Jr
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:15amI really don’t have an argument with any of you here. As I have posted in the past, had Ron Paul become candidate for the Republicans I would have voted for him. I’m not really fond of him and he is certainly not carrying any sway over the more conservatives of America. That being said, I also not very fond of Mitt. In my humble opinion, he has the better chance to beat 0bama at this point in time. My main goal is anybody but 0bama!
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:35am@RJJinGadsden
you got to try harder to not be so ignorant. Ron Paul is clearly not running as an independent – despite everyone’s paranoia. Ron Paul has urged civility and is doggedly not even trying to make waves. As poorly has the GOP establishment has treated him – I am shocked he remains committed to his process. You guys are lucky he is old – the younger ron paul would have never taken this on the chin
You dont deserve ron paul in your party. You say that he and his supporters are crazy and need to get the hell out – but then you complain about Ross Perot-ism…..Don’t you see the hypocrisy???
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:44amOkay, I admit that my first post above was a poor choice of words. I don’t really mean that Ron Paul is actually trying purposely to re-elect 0bama. I mean that his actions by making an attacking speech at the convention, or even running as an independent. Especially, should he run as an independent he stands a very good chance of siphoning off enough votes, a la Perot to insure a win for 0bama.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:03am@RJJinGadsden
Report Post »IIIIIIF he were to run as an independent (which i very highly doubt), it would be at the behest of the Republican establishment who have constantly claimed Ron Paul is not part of the republican party. Your friend, Time2, says the same thing. But then they would complain about ‘taking votes away’. Again, this is hypocrisy
Simonne
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:52amJust Angry, not only the GOP but the majority of voters will not give you a Ron Paul, he is too extreme. He does have some good points but that’s it. Don‘t vote for Romney but you won’t get a Ron Paul next time around. You want Obama, don’t vote for Romney.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:17pmSOYBOMB315, I certainly hope that he does not run as an independent either. Just not sure what he plans to do. But, I have heard in some news casts in the recent past as well as read on other sites, that some of his supporters are asking him to run as an independent. Just because I do not support this man, does not mean that I am ignorant of his theories and policies. I am aware and simply do not see things his way. Like I’ve said here before a number of times, had he become the candidate I would vote for him. Somewhat reluctantly, but I have had to do that before with some previous Republican candidates. If that is not good enough for you to give you my opinion and you want to continue to call me ignorant because I don’t see things your way, then so be it. Calling me names will do anything but convince me to become a Paulbot.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:56pm@RJJinGadsden
“If that is not good enough for you to give you my opinion and you want to continue to call me ignorant because I don’t see things your way, then so be it. Calling me names will do anything but convince me to become a Paulbot.”
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As i discussed above, your original post was completely wrong. I figured you were either lying or ignorant – so i gave you the benefit of the doubt. Dont get all PC on me – I know for a fact that you like to dish it out. On this site, i am called much worse on a daily basis for pointing out truths and records. Being called “paulbot” doesnt even register anymore.
I will call a spade a spade. If someone says something completely wrong i will call them out on it – as i know you will. This isnt MSNBC – if someone is being untruthful, they can expect some fire to come their way.
I have been trying to give you and a few others a second chance but you got to meet me halfway. Refering to Ron Paul as some sort of Ross Perot is completely false – as he is doing everything within the republican party and has not done a thing to indicate a 3rd party run.
Report Post »peace
Individualism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:13pmgood i don’t want an LDS take over of our country.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:05amI guess Paul’s message of limited government and an end to the welfare warfare state was a little too much for the so called conservatives to stomach.Who would have thought that a man who wants to strictly adhere to the constitution and put government in a box ie limit it’s power over us would be rejected like this,chalk it up to public schools and their teaching of revisionist history.
Look at the voting records of Mitt & Barry and see if there’s any difference at all because all the rhetoric they use is meaningless,check their voting record.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:26amKeep the faith, patriot!
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:14amThumbs up SLAYER!
Report Post »alinmatt
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:24amSpot on
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 10:40amWith the failure of the Ron Paul campaign to make a difference in the republican platform (lets assume the convention is a non-event), it appears incrimentalism is not going to work. The only way to have a successful revolution (political or ideological) is to overwhelm the system in order to bring about change. The socialists have used it to their advantage but for some reason, the constitutional wing of this country cannot get it done.
I hope Ron Paul will lend his support to Gary Johnson, as the republican party seems to be hopeless
Report Post »barber2
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:51amYou go, guys…. Grab your hoodies… Howard Johnson for president…
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:27pm@PROGRESSIVESLAYER ….
Early in the race, I was a Ron Paul supporter, and believed him to be our George Washington. But the more I watched him in debates, the less I liked him. He tends to speak only to his base and not to all Americans. He failed to connect with enough people to vote for him in the primaries, so he lost …. as did my choice, Santorum.
What done is done. Belittling people who voted for Romney instead of our choice is beating a dead horse. Santorum would have a better chance at the convention than Paul, but it’s not going to happen. Romney won the race and is the candidate running against Obama … and Romney is NOT the same as Obama (even Ron Paul agrees.)
America is a republic, not a dictatorship, and our president has limited powers. Therefore the time has come to direct our energy to supporting conservatives and libertarians for Congress and offices throughout the country. Ron Paul‘s vision doesn’t have to die in 2012 … find candidates with his vision and get them elected. With a strong Constitutionally Conservative Congress we can hold Romney’s feet to the fire.
FIRE OBAMA …. VOTE FOR AMERICA 2012
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:40pmRon was too realistic and logical for them. They say they want a limited low budget government, but they only want it to not be able to run this country. They still want to have a vast and invincible army that can assert our will upon the rest of the world, and Paul was the only one with the guts to tell them, no, it doesn’t work that way.
Report Post »arjundawg
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 12:43pmThe problem lies with the GOP constantly forcing weak candidates out there and the complacent people who accept it.
Report Post »This cycle has been going on for years and will probably take longer than a term or two to turn it around. I think we’re going to have to endure some pain before the party or the people truly gets it.
orlandojon
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:03amSome people don’t know when to quit, we don’t need to hear from Paul at the convention, we have heard from him during this entire campaign…time to get off the soap box and go home
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:34amI‘ll stand on a soap box and talk about liberty until the gov’t. shuts me up. And they probably will.
Report Post »Simonne
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:50amHe never got very far & even though I wouldn’t mind giving him a 10 min. speech, he didn’t have the support of the majority of the voters.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:58amHeh…heh, heh…
Bring on the beer and popcorn, this will be interesting!
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 8:58amactually he has plurality in 8-11 states. 500 non stealth.
Report Post »M13
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:46amYou are a complete fool.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:51amits not over till the convention haha, kidding their is gary johnson next, haha enjoy 4 more years of obama, cause nobody wants romney.
Report Post »Something is Wrong
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 3:16pmIndividualism, I think I’ve figured you out. I have seen a lot of the things you post and I think I know what you really are all about. You probably want drugs legalized and are anti-war and don’t want “the man” holding you down any longer. I think you‘re probably with OWS or sympathize greatly with them and you’re likely atheist or agnostic. I get the feeling you’re a hippie hanging out with the Ron Paul crowd because it feels like a “cause” and you like to be part of a “revolution” and you want to be able to get high without any legal penalties. Your past statements that OWS is pretty much the same as the Tea Party shows that you have a very poor concept of what the Tea Party is about and have a poor concept of what Liberty is actually all about (it isn’t anarchy buddy) and I wonder if you have ever really even read the Constitution or know anything about the founders. This is what makes it hard for a lot of people to support Ron Paul, because it means they are standing next to people like you. I support the Constitution but Ron Paul is not the way. Neither is any one candidate. This country was established by a whole congress of good men, it can only be saved by such a plurality. Ron Paul’s biggest problem is that not only is he just one man, he‘s just one man that nobody likes or works with and that wouldn’t change no matter what his elected office was. His bill proposal/passage record speaks for itself. Sorry, you’re going to have to keep meeting your d
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 16, 2012 at 7:09pmwanna know why people don’t support Romney research the LDS cult and their disgusting rituals they do.
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