Clean Up or Shut Down: EPA Announces New Rules for Power Plants
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EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson announces new emission standards for power plants.
WASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — About 600 coal- and oil-fired power plants are being told to clean up or shut down.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency rule announced Wednesday will force plants to control mercury and other toxic pollutants for the first time.
The national standards are set to rein in the largest remaining source of uncontrolled toxic pollution in the U.S. — the emissions from the nation’s coal- and oil-fired power plants.
The impact of the ruling will be greatest in the Midwest and in the coal belt – Kentucky, West Virginia and Virginia – where dozens of units likely will be mothballed, according to an Associated Press survey. The majority of facilities will continue to run, and find ways to reduce pollution. Read more on industry debate of the rule in this Blaze article posted last month.
Here PBS News Hour hosts a discussion of the rule with Electric Reliability Coordinating Council‘s Scott Segal and the Natural Resources Defense Council’s John Walke.:
About half of the 1,200 coal- and oil-fired units nationwide still lack modern pollution controls, despite the EPA in 1990 getting the authority from Congress to control toxic air pollution from power plant smokestacks. A decade later, in 2000, the agency concluded it was necessary to clamp down on the emissions to protect public health.
Image representing percentage of power plants that have adopted cleaner technology. (Image: EPA video screenshot)
At a news conference Wednesday at Children’s National Medical Center in Washington, EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson said the regulation was the Obama administration’s “biggest clean air action yet”, trumping a landmark agreement to double fuel economy standards for vehicles and another rule that will reduce emissions from power plants that foul the air in states downwind.
The administration was under court order to issue a new rule, after a court threw out an attempt by the Bush administration to exempt power plants from toxic air pollution controls.
“Before this rule, there were no national standards limiting the amount of mercury, arsenic, chromium, nickel and acid gases that power plants across the country could release into the air that we breathe,” said Jackson, listing the contaminants linked to cancer, IQ loss, heart disease and lung disease that are covered by the rule, and that also pollute lakes, streams and fish.
In a video released Wednesday afternoon, President Barack Obama said the decades of delays caused by special interest groups that resulted in standards never being put into place for power plants “was wrong.”
“Today, my administration is saying, `Enough’,” he said.
Watch Obama’s announcement over the emission standards:
When fully implemented in 2016, the standards will slash mercury pollution from burning coal by 90 percent, lung-damaging acid gases by 88 percent and soot-producing sulfur dioxide by 41 percent.
Power plant operators will have to choose between installing pollution control equipment, switching to cleaner-burning natural gas, or shutting down the plant. None of those choices come cheap – the EPA estimates the rule will cost $9.6 billion annually, making it one of the most expensive the agency has ever issued.
Some power producers intensely lobbied the Obama administration to weaken the rule and to delay it, and Republicans in Congress passed legislation to do so, saying it would threaten jobs and the reliability of the power grid, and raise electricity prices.
To ease those concerns, the administration will encourage states to make “broadly available” an additional fourth year to comply with the rule, as allowed by the law. Case-by-case extensions could also be granted to address local reliability issues, according to a presidential memorandum sent Wednesday to Jackson.
In the memorandum, Obama directs the EPA to ensure that implementation of the rule “proceed in a cost-effective manner that ensures electric reliability.”
Environmentalists said Wednesday that the added flexibility did not jeopardize the public health benefits of the regulation.
“After more than two decades of delay, dirty coal-fired power plants are going to be cleaned up in short order,” said Frank O’Donnell, president of Clean Air Watch, who said the EPA “bent over backwards” to accommodate concerns about reliability.
For those in the industry, and some in Congress, the concessions didn’t go far enough.
Oklahoma Sen. James Inhofe, the top Republican on the Senate’s environment committee, said he would file a joint resolution, a rarely used Congressional tactic, to get the rule overturned.
The Hill reports Inhofe as saying in a statement, “As Ranking Member of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, I am determined to apply the brakes to President Obama’s runaway regulatory agenda before it wrecks our economy.”
The Hill also reports House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) as saying in a statement that parts of the country could face “very real threats of rolling brownouts and blackouts”. He also expressed concern over the impact of the rule on low-income families.
Some in the industry pushed for an automatic delay, or “safety valve,” to make sure that plants that have to run to ensure reliability aren‘t found in violation of the rule and too many plants don’t close down at once. In addition to those that will retire, hundreds of units will need to be idled temporarily to install pollution control equipment. Some of those units are at critical junctions on the grid and are essential to restarting the electrical network in case of a blackout, or making sure voltage doesn’t drain completely from electrical lines, like a hose that’s lost its water pressure.
The Edison Electric Institute, whose members were split on the toll of the rule, said in a statement Wednesday that while the EPA “made useful technical changes”, it believes “the administration is underestimating the complexity of implementing this rule in such a short period of time.”
The American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity, which is an association of companies producing electricity from coal, said the rule will destroy jobs, raise the cost of energy and make electricity less reliable. A study by the group estimated that as much as 12 percent of coal-fired generation would be forced to retire due to the regulation.
But an AP survey of 55 power plant producers found that estimate, and others, to be inflated. The mercury rule, along with another to reduce power plant pollution that blows downwind, will force portions of more than 32 mostly coal-fired power plants in a dozen states to retire, and put another 36 power plants on the brink of retirement.
But not a single operator interviewed said the EPA was solely to blame for the decision. And coal is still likely to be the country’s dominant electricity source until 2035, according to the Energy Information Administration.
For the older, aging plants, many of which only ran when electricity demand peaked, the rules were the final blow. Coal was already struggling to compete against low natural-gas prices, demand from China and elsewhere driving up its price, and lower electricity demand.
The average age of the units retiring or at risk of shutting down was 51 years old, the AP found. And while they produce enough power for more than 22 million households, experts say they probably won’t cause the lights to go out, because in many cases the power is being replaced.
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Bro Geo Too
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:40pm`
Blazers – please let your friends and family in, Wyoming, West Virginia, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, and Montana know that Obama and his reckless EPA tools are going to devastate their states.
Those are the top 5 coal-producing states in America. Jobs, union and non-union will be lost and the rest of the country will pay dearly for electricity when Obama throttles our coal production.
Barack Obama is the worst thing that ever hit our country. If you care about America, you cannot vote for him.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:47pm•In 1788 (January 1), The United States was officially bankrupt.
Report Post »•In 1790 (August 4), Article One of the U.S. Statues at Large, pages 138-178, abolished the States of the Republic and created Federal Districts. In the same year, the former States of the Republic reorganized as Corporations and their legislatures wrote new State Constitutions, absent defined boundaries, which they presented to the people of each state for a vote…the new State Constitutions fraudulently made the people “Citizens” of the new Corporate States. A Citizen is also defined as a “corporate fiction.”
•In 1845, Congress passed legislation that would ultimately allow Common Law to be usurped by Admiralty Law. http://www.barefootsworld.net/admiralty.html explains this change. The yellow fringe placed at the bottom of court flags shows this is still true. Before 1845, Americans were considered sovereign individuals who governed themselves under Common Law.
•In 1860 – Congress was adjourned Sine Die – Lincoln could not legally reconvene Congress.
•In 1861, President Lincoln declared a National Emergency and Martial Law, which gave the President unprecedented powers and removed it from the other branches. This has NEVER been reversed.
•In 1863, the Lieber Code was established taking away your property and your rights.
•From 1864-1867, Several Reconstruction Acts were passed forcing the states to ratify the 14th Amendment, which made everyone slaves.
ProbIemSoIver
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:48pm•In 1865, the capital was moved to Washington, D.C., a separate country – not a part of the United States of America.
Report Post »•In 1871, The United States became a Corporation with a new constitution and a new corporate government, and the original constitutional government was vacated to become dormant, but it was never terminated. The new constitution had to be ratified by the people according to the original constitution, but it never was. The whole process occurred behind closed doors. The people are the source of financing for this new government.
•In 1917, the Trading with the Enemy Act (TWEA) was passed. This insightful video from [link to movielocker.com/4084)] states the following: “This act was implemented to deal with the countries we were at war with during World War I. It gave the President and the Alien Property Custodian the right to seize the assets of the people included in this act and if they wanted to do business in this country they could apply for a license to do so. By 1921, the Federal Reserve Bank (the trustee for the Alien Property Custodian) held over $700,000,000 in trust.” Understand that this trust was based on our assets, not theirs.
ProbIemSoIver
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:49pm•In 1933, 48 Stat 1, of the TWEA was amended to include the United States Person because they wanted to take our gold away. Executive Order 6102 was created to make it illegal for a U.S. Citizen to own gold. In order for the Government to take our gold away and violate our Constitutional rights, we were reclassified as ENEMY COMBATANTS.”
•In 1933, there was a second United States bankruptcy. In the first bankruptcy the United States collateralized all public lands. In the 1933 bankruptcy, the U.S. government collateralized the private lands of the people (a lien) – they borrowed money against our private lands. They were then mortgaged. That is why we pay property taxes.
From a speech in Congress in The Bankruptcy of the United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993, Vol. 33, page H-1303, Speaker Representative James Trafficant Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House states:
“…It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 – Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in nam
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:52pmThe receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: “The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States…
•In 1944, Washington D.C. was deeded to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) by the Breton Woods Agreement. The IMF is made up of wealthy people that own most of the banking industries of the world. It is an organized group of bankers that have taken control of most governments of the world so the bankers run the world. Congress, the IRS, and the President work for the IMF. The IRS is not a U.S. government agency. It is an agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:55pmHere is a quick 2:14 video regarding my previous statements:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlCs7u1ihws
WAKE UP !!!!!
Report Post »Andy
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 8:36amI believe that all coal-producing mines and plants should shut down for thirty days so these geniuses in washington will get a sample of what is like when half the country is ticked off at their stupidity.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 11:26amDUKE Energy services us here in SW Ohio. They received 1200 pages of new regulations for coal fired plants this past fall, announced on a Friday. Two weeks later Duke announced that they would be closing the six coal fired power plants 30-40 mi upstream from Cincinnati. Duke started that in their estimation, the cost of compliance would be in EXCESS of one hundred and fifty million dollars per plant., so that is nine hundred million dollars for EPA compliance for this one location.
Report Post »I saw this PBS propaganda posted here the other day by chance; they trivialized the cost and exaggerated the benefits. This reminds me of a visit to my doctors office a few years ago. My cholesterol is ‘borderline’ . Doctor wanted me to get on a prescription….
I did some research and found (short version) that of two factors; smoking and cholesterol, getting cholesterol under control would reduce my chance of a heart attack by 2% and stopping smoking would reduce my risk by 8%. Now those two numbers are really MEANINGLESS until you look at my overall chance of a heart attack. The website I used gave me an overall chance of having a heart attack of one in ten, or 10%; lowering my cholesterol drops it to 8%; stopping smoking down to 2%. COMBINED it remains two percent.
Stoic one
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 11:37amMy point behind this example is that I believe the EPA is heavily overestimating the benefits; as is typical for them. There is only one way for the EPA and it’s counterparts worldwide to achieve the “healthy” planet that they want: RADICAL DEPOPULATION
As I look at everything, I think the powers that be are setting the stage for World War Three.
Report Post »Freedomtothink
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 11:53amI have a hard time sympathizing with people that keep voting for Progressives. UN Agenda 21 has no sympathy for unsustainable communities. In the progressive mind coal and oil electrical generators are unsustainable energy conversion technologies.
Report Post »MetalPatriot
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 12:29amThank you Problem Solver!
Been waiting for posts like that. Hope you don’t mind, but I copied & pasted them to a word doc to be able to spread it around.
One question I do have because of the link to the video…
I went to the The Obama Deception site, which led to a Skeptic site. That site didn’t seem very professional, doesn’t clearly say who they are or any sponsors…just that the Obama movie is false/propaganda. Is it the same as the Michael Moore movies? I just feel like we’re being played by all sides through so many mediums.
Report Post »TexOkie
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:35pmIf I were running any of the power companies I would shut down the plants serving Washington DC. And Lisa Jacksons home.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 7:14pmAnd the homes of everyone who voted democrat in the last five elections… and shut down Hollywierd just on general principle.
Report Post »moose8
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:24pmI wonder if the new equipment that will modify/replace the current equipment comes from GE. Just a guess, but I bet I’m right. If we follow the money trail I bet we will find that whoever is set to benefit from the new “Rule” will be large a Dem contributor. It’s probably as easy as checking what George Soros has invested in the last month or two. Any bets that many in Congress recently bought stock in these company’s as well?
What’s that famous Dem refrain…The rich keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer? Yeah, they care about the poor don’t they. Don’t get me wrong, the big government progressive republicans keep getting their piece of the pie as well. What, you didn’t get yours? Shut up and pay your skyrocketing electric bill! Are you taxed/fleeced enough yet?
What’s that? You can no longer afford your electricity bill, well…just apply for some help from the gov. They are here to help. How many people are dependent on the gov now? Oh, fantastic, more people to vote big gov candidates in. It’s a virtuous cycle.
You say the Tea party is going to fix it by getting someone like Michelle Bachmann into office. No, no, they have been told that they will have to hold their nose and vote for Gingrich/Romney/Perry because they must pick someone who can beat Barry who has a 50/50 chance. Does anyone believe that? He couldn’t carry anywhere near 50% of the vote. I got an idea. Let’s vote for who we want in the primary! W
Report Post »IMPEACH GEORGE SOROS!!
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:45amThis site needs a “Like” button. You’ve hit the nail on the head there my friend.
Report Post »korbin
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:18pmWow AGENDA 21 at work. Imagine that pesky little mercury they are so concerned about. I can’t even purchase a switch we use in the water industry ( mercoid switch ) its illegal in Commufornia, you can‘t buy it from Arizona because they aren’t allowed to sell in Commufornia, whats funny is every single new light bulb being shoved up our arses has mercury?? Yes mercury, imagine every time you break a new mandated energy insufficient Government GE bulb you will emit toxic mercury, especially good for toddlers crawling on carpet. Commufornia has no problem allowing that type of mercury?
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:46pmThat mercury benefits them financially, so no issue at all.
The Global Elite owns the “United States Government” behind the scenes, literally.
They have the U.N. run it behind another curtain.
The Federal Reserve took over our Federal government and it’s LAND, and PEOPLE in 1933
under another curtain of the Emergency Banking Act.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlCs7u1ihws
This Explains Agenda 21, the reason for the Tri-lateral Commision, The CFR, and the UN ( which acquired the “United States” in 1944 ) which became official in 1945.
Mostly, every other Agency and Bureau came after 1933, FBI, CIA, EPA, DOE, FDOT, and on and on.
Report Post »prage2001
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:42amNo mercury in those new curly cue lightbulbs! Nope! None at all! I need to somehow get ahead of the game on making money off protesting those new bulbs. Alas I‘m not a raving lunatic liberal so I’ll never make a penny. The hypocracy of liberal pols never ceases to amaze me.
Report Post »Zipit
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:12pmNot to worry. When electricity becomes so “necessarily” expensive that no one can afford it, you’ll be asked to give up just a little more of your already meager paycheck to subsidize the electric and heating bills of those who vote for Obama, and the union faithful. All in the name of shared sacrifice you know. Happy daze America!!!
Report Post »LadyLibertykicksASS
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 6:40pmInvest in kerosene lamps………and candles; don’t know how we heat our houses….guess we’ll freeze to death !!!!
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:11pmThe U.S. Environmental Protection Agency rule announced Wednesday will force plants to control mercury and other toxic pollutants for the first time.
MERCURY – why not practice what you preach you low life morons. How much MERCURY is in Compact Florescent? This makes me want to take a truck load of CF’s and ram it up their collective butts.
Report Post »I SPY
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:03pmShut down the incompetent EPA and lets get back to work and putting food on the family table!
Report Post »pap pap
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:03pmToday the voters are saying “enough” KILL the EPA.
Report Post »tbl10
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:53pmNothing to see here folks, just another cog in the plan to destroy America. Just can’t wait for those rolling blackouts. Oh wait let me guess the Democratic controlled Cities will be top priority for power and the rest of us are screwed. Sure am glad I live in Texas with our independent power grid.
Report Post »iblvingd
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:39pmI find it interesting that the world has made it to the end of 2011..how many hundreds of years has coal and other fuel been used? If we were going to die from it, we would have done it many years ago.
What were are dying from is all the chemicals that are being put into our food, water, farms and animals. And they want to blame it on our energy resources. Just so they can control us.
VOTE out all the CRONIES in the SENATE & HOUSE and don’t vote for a person that is running for president that is afiliated with the UN, CFR, TRI-Lateral, Bilderberger, or FED Reserve.
Only then will there be so HOPE to save America.
Report Post »johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:37pmOur plan to develop an electromagnetic power source will soon be unveiled. We hope to be able to generate AC power right in folks’ basements with NO hydrocarbon use. Next month look for nofuelmotors.com.
Then we can tell the POTUS, the utilities and the folks at OPEC to shove it where the sun don’t shine.
Report Post »iblvingd
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:41pmThis similar to the EMP the government has that can be used as a weapon?
Report Post »iblvingd
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:50pmI should say the EMP Generator WMD.
Report Post »MrObvious
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:34pmThe EPA’s job is to regulate the poisons released. As long as the are genuinely sticking to that, and nnot making the requirements excessive or unreasonable, then ok.
Report Post »If they’re regulating quantities too small to be harmful or trying to regulate largely harmless gases, like CO2, then it oversteps.
Far too often the EPA has under or overreacted for political reasons.
Same goes for the FDA.
For the EPA to get involved their should be tangible damage and it should cross state lines.
Local and state agencies can deal with it otherwise.
Far too often that’s not the case.
geonj
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:28pmand we will end up paying. it is time to end the epa. it is time to end regulatory bodies a president can use to bypass the legislative process and the will of the people. where is the data that says we need to lower murcury emissions by 90%, acid gasses by 88% or sulfur dioxide emissions by 41%. and where are the cost vs benefit studies.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:35pmIf the percentages were this high to begin with, we would all be dead now and not even arguing this issue. Although she did say, “reduced IQ’s” as one of the factors; I can certainly agree with her on this point. She has a reduced IQ.
Report Post »iblvingd
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:45pmreduced IQ’s as in the purpose of dumbing down Amer Citizens through combinations of chemicals they are pumping into us through the atmosphere, food, vacinations etc etc. We live in a truly EVIL world.
Report Post »dontbotherme
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:25pmTo be honest here, I didn’t read this whole article or watch the videos. I heard about this on the news last night & commented to my spouse that it’s such a crock that Obama is doing this (it’s been a part of his plan for a long time). The government is forcing us to use lightbulbs in our homes that have mercury in them & yet they try to make coal companies the bad guys concerning mercury emissions. Obama said our power costs would necessarily skyrocket. How many businesses will be forced to close? How many jobs will be lost?
Report Post »starman70
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:57pmI can think of no better way to slow down or even forestall the recovery than to close power plants and make electricity more expensive for businesses and homeowners. This is not to mention the effects on the very people the Democrats and the POTUS say they represent, the poor and downtrodden inner city residents and those who rely totally on Social Security to live on. Can you imagine the effect of a 10 to 15 percent increase in electricity when a widow who has to make the choice of buying medicine or staying warm would be? Will we see an increase in house fires and fatalities due to fires as people use candles and oil lamps to light their homes?
Here you have another example of the elitest mentality telling everyone how they should live. 2012 is coming and I hope we will have change so we can hope.
Report Post »2theADDLED
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 6:21pm@starman70
Report Post »You have completed the connection people using candles to see and fires for heating
and cooking. This will create more house fires and what do we need for more fires
firemen preferably Unionized firemen it all makes sense in Obamaville.
progressiveslayer
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:20pmRemember when the Marxist POS said he would make electricity rates skyrocket? He’s using the epa to do just that,regulate coal fired plants out of business.The Marxist will be defeated in 12,end the fed and de-fund the epa.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:33pmIf the EPA wants to make changes they should pay for it with public money. Maybe they would at least have to justify the expense to the public. Let the public vote on the issues if necessary. EPA is being used as a legislative organization and I think that is illegal. They are effectively legislating taxes on the public without representation. They say we will have cleaner air, to what degree? cleaner is a broad subject and needs clarification with cost associations.
Report Post »tzion
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:20pmJust in time for Winter :)
Report Post »TAILHOOK
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:18pmApparently, they’re trying to compensate for at least one pollutant (mercury) introduced by the CFL lighting initiative…
Report Post »historyforgotten
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:17pmIf Other Countries can use Less Polluting Factories…then America can Too.
Report Post »We Pride ourselves on being better than China, yet Many Conservatives keep saying “China doesn’t fix their Factories, why should we?”…That’s the wrong attitude.
Looking at Past Conservatives in Congress, Most Conservatives continue to TRY making AMerica Like China. A One Religion, Low Wages, Corporate Controlled Government, that puts the Wealthy Class before the People.
We are NOT Saudi Arabia, China, Nor ANY OTHER Country…So we should QUIT Putting the Wealthy, BEFORE the People.
dontbotherme
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:27pmHistoryforgotten – You are full of beans.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:44pmHistoryMADEUP
Useful idiot, exemplified
Report Post »michael48
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 5:33pmnice try comrade revisionist history…it’s your turn on the ocommie swing set…
Report Post »stop the insanity
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:13pmi’m paraphrasing but seems like i remember the prez saying electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket
Report Post »NotSoCommonSense
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:13pm“Under my plan … energy costs will necessarily sky-rocket”! – Barak Obama
Report Post »iblvingd
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 4:49pm“Yes they will ”unecessarily, necessarily skyrocket” , and no worries you’ll just have to where a parka in your house to keep warm, because you dumb Americans believe anything I say!” Obama
Report Post »Duey2000
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:13pmWhy is it that we allow the EPA to create rules for our businesses to follow? Shouldn’t Congress be creating laws and regulating trade? The cost of electricity will go up if we shut down these plants as they help to share the load and fill in gaps in the power grid. Our coal plant here helps to provide power for when our Nuclear plant is shut down for refueling. When the nuke plant is running, our the coal plant produces electricity that it sells to neighboring power suppliers that help offset the cost of our electricity. Our power company is a public entity and not owned by a corporation. I find it hard to believe that shutting down these plants (that power 22 million people) would leave none of them in the dark.
Report Post »Micmac
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:00pmThe EPA needs to go. It amazes me how ignorant the populus of the USA is. They have had 45 years to dumb down America and it worked.
NoBama 2012
Report Post »Reboot Washington
WashingtonIsMyHero
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 2:58pmObama blames “special interest groups that resulted in standards never being put into place for power plants”. Well that special interest group was the American people who need to heat their homes, etc. The real special groups are the ones that got these radical regulations in place, without Congress or the American people weighing in. One more Obama term and America, Home of the Brave, Land of the Free will be a distant memory. Democrats/Obama do nothing but pander to radical special interest groups who don’t care about what happens to America or Americans as long as they succeed in putting their agenda in place.
Report Post »DrFrost
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:09pmYou’re correct about Obama. Unfortunately, the right panders to a lot of special interest groups as well. We need to get money out of politics. I’d love to hear the candidates thoughts on this, Newt in partiticular since he seems to have put a lot more thought into the big problems this nation is facing (IMO).
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 2:56pmRemeber when Biden and barack said “go ahead and open a coal plant, we‘ll make it so expensive you’ll go bankrupt”? How are they going to power their bs electric cars if there is no electricity? hydro, solar and other “green” energy sources cant keep up with the demand. The EPA is out of control thanks to comrad barack.
Report Post »babylonvi
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:23pmTheir objective is de-industrialization that will bring us back to the 19th century.
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Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:52amRightpolitically
You are so off base! It is a known fact that all we have to do is cover the entire state of Arizona with solar panals and it will generate all the power the USA needs….during the day….when there is no cloud cover! The rest of the time the country will run on unicorn dust!
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Posted on December 22, 2011 at 2:52pmEPA is filled with AMERICA HATING LEFTISTS who despise capitalism. EPA needs to be PUT OUT OF BUSINESS by our next President.
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