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Epic Beck Segment: Cain Story Sparks Debate on Men, Women, Trust, & Appearances

Following the breaking story about Ginger White’s allegation that she and Herman Cain have had a 13 year affair that included “inappropriate behavior,” a heated debate and discussion evolved on Glenn Beck’s radio show this morning.

The questions swirling the studio dealt with how married men and women can work together and still maintain a professional relationship.

Beck chose a cautious approach, as he believes that just the appearance of impropriety can cause too many problems. He suggested that lunches and dinners with members of the opposite sex never be taken with just two people, and that they should not be happening at all if one’s spouse is uncomfortable with the situation.

The impassioned discussion included co-host Pat, Executive Producer Stu, Producer Sarah, and Blaze CEO Betsy Morgan, who joined the conversation to support the stance that men and women can conduct platonic business outside of the office.

The entire discussion spanned over an hour and included plenty of laughs, hyperbole about “insane women,” and even Beck predicting someone’s divorce:

Where do you stand on the issue of men, women, trust and appearances?


Men… Women… Trust… And Appearances

 

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  • Chi-Fawn
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:04pm

    The deal with apperances is if someone gossips and it goes all over town that so-and-so did such-and-such when it wasn’t true is the problem with the person doing the gossiping and the people who choose to believe it without checking with whoever is being gossiped about. If some guy or girl really DOES want more than a casual friendship when it’s wrong there is a little word spelled “N.O.” that should do the trick.

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    • emilieclark
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:15pm

      There has got to be evidence… come on people… enough is enough. Give us some evidence so we can move on.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:21pm

      makes the old adage – “Don’t believe anything you hear and only half of what you see” evermore meaningful

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    • garyM
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:21pm

      You are one those people like they had on the jury in the Casey Anthony trial!

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    • Shiroi Raion
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:30pm

      I agree with Beck. I was single and working with a woman and we became very good friends. I took her out for dinner and we spent a lot of time together. I thought there was nothing wrong with it. Rumors spread around the work place and my boss decided to place me under investigation for sexual harassment. After 3 months, I was found not guilty because there was no evidence. I lost everything that day. I had almost finished my degree and was almost finished paying off my vehicle when my boss said, “I’m not renewing your contract.”
      Even though there was no evidence, they “labeled” me guilty just for the appearance and rumors. I was doing nothing wrong, but as a guy, I was automatically guilty when accused. I agree with Stu, it is ridiculous, but it’s the world we live in today. I will never be alone with a woman I work with after that experience and I’m single!

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 3:22pm

      I know that even in the day, there was some of this going on. But the problem is “fundamental”, to quote a term that’s all the rage in the present administration. It goes back to character. Morality and honor and integrity.

      Today, ALL of these are widely considered and accepted to be ‘relative’ to any single persons belief system. With no national (or collective) moral compass people become literally insane. (http://www.ourcivilisation.com/moral2/test.htm) Like the black friday pepper spray moron. That just isn’t rational behavior, by any standard.

      We have to convince people that working together to build a ‘community’ (a nation, or if you prefer town) is the best for everyone. And that common ‘expectations’ of behavior or morality, are part and parcel of that effort. And that takes time.

      And once the ‘animal’ has been let loose, history has proved it is nearly impossible to get back under control without considerable backsliding in social and community contexts. Immediate gratification is a symptom of that ‘insanity.’

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    • kampkrazy2
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 3:25pm

      The Bible tells us in I Thess 5:22 KJV “Abstain from all appearance of evil”. So even if someone might see you and mistake what they are seeing for something it’s not, we should abstain from it. Especially if we are calling ourselves Christian. We should never even appear to be sinning. That could lead whoever sees you conclude that Christians are hypocrits. This can keep a lost person from being saved. Yes, it is possible for men and women to be “just friends”. But if either of them is at all attracted to the other, the relationship becomes a temptation. If you are married, never let yourself be alone with the opposite sex. Why chance it?

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    • SistaTriscuit
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 3:29pm

      So….ummmm…. tell me, Shylow… are “white women” the only women who “bleed for a week straight & don’t die”? What an idiotic comment. But then based on some of the other comments I’ve seen you make here on The Blaze, it doesn’t really surprise me.

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    • Duddio
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 3:30pm

      The Bible exhorts us to avoid the very appearance of evil. I have always maintained a policy of never being anywhere alone with the opposite sex. If there is no opportunity, then no accusation can ever be brought, you would alibi out every time. Nowadays only the accusation is required to ruin a life.

      imagine that… the Bible knew best thousands of years ago!

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    • AZpatriotmama
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 4:11pm

      I’ve been married for 40 years. While I agree that it’s wrong (and foolish) for a married person to spend personal time alone with a member of the opposite sex without the spouse’s knowledge and approval, let’s put this Cain situation into perspective…

      …WE’RE LOOKING FOR A HERO TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY, PEOPLE! If you’re looking for a PERFECT person for President, I hate to break the news but Jesus isn’t running! Since there‘s no one among us that hasn’t sinned, maybe we should be more realistic and choose someone based on skills, ability, business and leadership experience, intelligence and honesty. EVERY ONE of the Republican candidates beat Obama in these categories hands down! Hmmm…Cain, who may have had an affair (but still married), or Obama, a Marxist who hates this country? Perry, who can’t debate well but has good ideas, or Obama, a Marxist who wants to “fundamentally change the United States of America”? Newt, who has been married more than once, or Obama…A MARXIST!! I could go on, but I think you get the point.

      Let’s focus on the important criteria, folks, and not continue to discard candidates because they’re not perfect. The next President of the United States has two very important duties: to protect us from our enemies and lead us out of the current economic crisis. If he can do that, I couldn’t care less what he does on his personal time. We can solve the rest of the social issues on our own.

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    • dealer@678
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 4:15pm

      Billy Graham always had men around him everywhere he went . That way there could never be a question. It works

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    • jocojr
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 4:36pm

      Unfortunately, Percption is reality no matter how innocent the intent.

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 4:39pm

      I don’t know if everybody knows it but Occupy is sending thousands of buses with seiu to D.C. next week to disrupt. They are actually talking about occupying congress by the thousands.

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    • Ray2447
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 5:23pm

      Gender feminists, who are a major part of the Democrat party, will look at Beck’s comments as sexist and oppressing women. They will say women should be free of such “good ole boy” restrictions so they can be free to show their superiority to men. They will say the problem lies totally with men, who they will by the way point out, “comprise almost all sexual harassers and rapists.” Sadly, many Republican women buy into this misandrist, radical feminist, delusional mind set. Perhaps Beck’s time would have been better spent discussing all the ways the radical gender feminists (comprising a major segment of the Democrat party) witch-hunt men as shown in “Witch-Hunting Males” at Youtube. http://tinyurl.com/65dpzwu But then, I‘m beginning to think Beck doesn’t have the knowledge, and/or integrity, and/or courage to address all the radical gender feminist abuses that are going on in society, since he never speaks of feminism. Wake Up Beck!

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    • 1389AD
      Posted on November 30, 2011 at 1:40am

      The “lady” in question, Ginger White, is “a divorced mother of two with a long history of financial troubles”. And a checkered legal history as well. Where have we heard THAT before?

      Some irresponsible skank is out for whatever money she can get, never mind how she gets it. Somebody out there whose pockets are deeper than Mr. Cain’s evidently gave or promised her enough money to go over to the other side. We may eventually find out exactly who paid her to commit slander, but by then, it will most likely be too late.

      I am acquainted with many people who try to help others who are (or claim to be) in need. Sometimes that involves money, a lot of phone conversations, and other forms of assistance. It’s just plain indecent for us to assume that a sexual quid pro quo is automatically involved. If we have this attitude, then nobody will ever want to help anybody with anything out of fear of compromising their reputation. The upshot? Anybody who is genuinely in need will have to rely on the all-powerful government. Is that what we want?

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    • foobear
      Posted on November 30, 2011 at 1:49am

      “The Bible exhorts us to avoid the very appearance of evil.”

      Since when is eating food with someone evil?

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    • horsehockey
      Posted on November 30, 2011 at 7:10pm

      I’m just wondering why GB has Betsy Morgan, with her background as one of the instigators of the failed ultra-leftist site, HuffPo, as CEO of the Blaze. She has supported with contributions a democrat candidate with pro-abortion and pro-gay rights views(source is Forbes). I thought the Blaze would be in oppostion to that sort of political philosophy. Is GB so naive that he thinks a person with such obvious political motivations comes free of baggage? Subjectively, she looks in the video like a raging leftist feminazi to me regardless of her appearance of reason and aplomb, believe me I can pickup the vibes–uummmm.

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  • neverending
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:02pm

    Wanna avoid the problem then don’t even go there – plain and simple.

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    • netmail
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 3:38pm

      Maybe porn addiction is up because a lot of people are NOT ‘going there’. Are relationships today predictably too dangerous and not worth the risk?? Given people’s baggage and self absorbed attitudes, I think it’s definitely a consideration. Myself, I feel fortunate to love and be loved.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 4:11pm

      Too bad he’s not Gay, the media would have worked very hard to cover it up…..

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:58pm

      So what, the dude loves sex , it sometimes happens to people who have been married to the same person for forty years, variety is the spice of life…..sorry

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  • SLEUTH
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:02pm

    a past boss (female) was the first and only ‘female’ i was able to communicate with. she told me its because she says of herself.. ‘I think like a man, others have told me that’. an exception, no doubt.

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  • Lori2149
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:01pm

    I have always made it a point to not eat any meal, or meet up with someone of the opposite sex if they are the only person besides me, other than my husband. Call it old fashioned if you want but I think it is incredibly innappropriate for a one-on-one meeting with the opposite sex even for business. I am in total agreement with Glenn about this and was shaking my head up and down in agreement the whole time he was talking about this. In this day and age even a doctor will not see his female patients without another female in the room. Is he a pervert, NO, he is prudent!

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    • garyM
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:33pm

      Right on Lori, Cain did not have that kind of mindset and it has bit him in the butt, the reason he didn’t have that mind set could be because he was looking. That won’t matter to some of these meat heads if they knew Cain was guilty, They look up to Studsters like Bill Clinton, they are probably democrats, a real conservative Christian doesn’t approve of adultery. Conservatism without Christ is worthless! They stood up for Bill Clinton after he was proven to be an adulterer and most likely was guilty of sexual harassment too, he certainly was accused of it. Most of the time when sexual abuse happens, it will eventually lead to an affair being uncovered! I think such as the case here with Cain. I think the women who brought the sexual harassment cases to light should heave kept their mouth shut though after they took money and did not prosecute. Gloria is going to cross examine Herman worse than any press ever thought about doing, She probably already has! Herman will drop out within 5 days and I’m giving more time than I think necessary!

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    • docvet
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 3:27pm

      Maybe there is something to sharia law.

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    • M-Theory
      Posted on November 30, 2011 at 2:04pm

      @Gary – it could also mean that it was the 1980′s and he and the rest of us were all much more naive about business relationships back then.

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  • aconstitutionalistlivesinbrooklyn
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:00pm

    The Reverand Billy Graham would not allow himself to even be seen with a woman who was not his wife. If he was alone in an elevator and a woman entered it, he would leave the elevator. Appearances do matter, but most of us are not preachers. Sometimes you have to have a conversation with a beautiful woman who is not your wife, and face the consequences.

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    • sweathog1948
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:17pm

      Billy Graham once had entered his hotel room and someone had let a woman in. From that point on Billy Graham would have one of his guys go in the room and check it out before he entered. The word says to flee from even the aooearance of sin.

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    • VRW Conspirator
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 3:26pm

      I was always instructed and advised by my business partners (probably the most godly bunch of business men and women I have every known inside or out of a church) to obey three commandments.
      1 – never mess with anybody’s time
      2 – never mess with anybody’s money
      3 – never mess with anybody’s spouse

      So basically, do what you say you will do, pay your bills on time and in full, and even the appearance of or perception of infidelity is enough to cause problems. You never had a business meeting with just you and one member of the opposite sex. You were never alone in your car or the room with one member of the opposite sex. And if you had to go to the home of a business partner, you did not ENTER unless the spouse was home, if that partner was of the opposite sex. I even obeyed this with my sister-in-law, since my brother was a partner in the business.

      Advertisers will tell you… Perception is everything!!

      Herman is getting screwed by this witch hunt and if this was a Democrat…everyone would be screaming about the vast right wing religious nutjobs that want to control you in your bedroom, burn you if you are gay, and stone you to death if you dare to even flirt with someone not your spouse.

      This is a joke…I don’t think after nearly 40 years Mrs. Cain would lie about this garbage to the media. Hillary always did and played the victim…Mrs. Cain has more integrity than that and I think Herman would be in the hospital if all this was true.

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    • keaton
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 5:07pm

      So did Wayne Gretsky

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    • grayling646
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:42pm

      @VRW

      Seems Britt, Miller and others forgot about # 3.

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    • neverending
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:57pm

      That is all so true.

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  • Michael61
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:58pm

    Too bad. I hoped that the next President would be a smart guy, for a change.

    Herman Cain

    Son of very poor blacks from the South. Descendant of slaves
    Bachelor in Mathematics
    Masters in Computer Science
    Rocket scientist (mathematical models for ballistic rockets)
    Programmer (VP of Data systems by the age of 34)
    Businessman (CEO and owner)
    Economist (Chairman of Federal Reserve Bank in Kansas)
    Writer, lecturer, radio host

    Could you compare his achievements and his IQ to the current occupant of the White House please? What did Obama achieve ever? What were his degrees? Do you have his transcripts? His artciles? What did Obama manage ever? What was his job description? Teacher assistant at university? For 2 hours a week? Did he have a honest job ever, except for being a black activist and agitator?

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    • Michael61
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:02pm

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain

      He grew up in Georgia[16] and graduated from Morehouse College in 1967 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in mathematics.

      Cain, accepted for graduate studies at Purdue, received a Masters in computer science there in 1971,[17] while he also worked full-time in ballistics for the U.S. Department of the Navy.[18]

      Cain received the 1996 Horatio Alger Award[19] and has received honorary degrees from Creighton University, Johnson & Wales University,Morehouse College, University of Nebraska, New York City Technical College, Purdue University, Suffolk University, and Tougaloo College.[20]

      After completing his master’s degree from Purdue, Cain left the Department of the Navy and began working for The Coca-Cola Company in Atlanta as a computer systems analyst. In 1977, he moved to Minneapolis to join Pillsbury,[21] soon becoming director of business analysis[22] in its restaurant and foods group in 1978.

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    • Michael61
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:03pm

      At age 36, Cain was assigned in the 1980s first to analyze and ultimately to take the reins of Burger King, where he managed 400 stores in the Philadelphia area. At the time, Burger King was a Pillsbury subsidiary. Under Cain’s leadership his region went, in three years, from the least profitable for Burger King to the most profitable. According to a 1987 account in theMinneapolis Star Tribune, Pillsbury’s then-president Win Wallin said, “He was an excellent bet. Herman always seemed to have his act together.”[23] At Burger King, Cain “established the BEAMER program, which taught our employees, mostly teenagers, how to make our patrons smile” by smiling themselves. It was a success: “Within three months of the program’s initiation, the sales trend was moving steadily higher.”[24]

      His successes at Burger King prompted Pillsbury to appoint him president and CEO of another subsidiary, Godfather’s Pizza. Cain arrived on April 1, 1986, and told employees, “I‘m Herman Cain and this ain’t no April Fool’s joke. We are not dead. Our objective is to prove to Pillsbury and everyone else that we will survive.”[25] Aiming to cut costs, Cain, over a 14-month period, reduced the company from 911 stores to 420. As a result of his efforts, Godfather’s Pizza became profitable[citation needed]. In a leveraged buyout in 1988, Cain, Executive Vice-President and COO Ronald B. Gartlan and a group of investors, bought Godfather’s from Pillsbury. Cain continued as CEO until 1996,

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    • Michael61
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:04pm

      Later in 1996 he became CEO of the National Restaurant Association, a trade group and lobby organization for the restaurant industry, where he had previously been chairman concurrently with his role at Godfather’s Pizza.[27].

      Cain became a member of the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in 1992 and served as its chairman from January 1995 to August 1996, when he resigned to become active in national politics.[28]

      Cain was on the board of directors of Aquila, Inc. from 1992 to 2008, and also served as a board member for Nabisco, Whirlpool, Reader’s Digest, and AGCO, Inc.[29][20][30]

      He writes a syndicated op-ed column, which is distributed by the North Star Writers Group.[34]

      Until February 2011, Cain hosted The Herman Cain Show on Atlanta talk radio station WSB, a Cox Radio property.[35]

      His notable works include:

      Leadership is Common Sense (1997)
      Speak as a Leader (1999)
      CEO of SELF (October 2001)
      They Think You’re Stupid (May 2005)
      This Is Herman Cain: My Journey To The White House. Threshold Editions. October 2011. ISBN 978-1451666137.
      Cain also wrote “The Intangibles of Implementation” in the technical journal Interfaces (Vol. 9, No. 5, 1979, pp. 144–147), published by the Institute for Operations Research and the Management Sciences (INFORMS).

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    • riverdog1
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:05pm

      it is strange tha a man like cain with a very impressive reume can be so stupid. and i don’t mean the women. 999 is nuts!

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    • garyM
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:36pm

      Herman would be better than Obama with a dozen affairs, that’s not the point! It just shows how stupid Obama people are!

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    • Sibyl
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:46pm

      Most likely, Herman Cain let his success, his pride/ego, (and possibly alcohol) and distance from home cloud his judgment and take away his sense of propriety and caution.

      He crossed boundaries that should not have been crossed. Drinks and dinner alone with a woman was foolish.

      Billy Graham was right. If we are Christians and if we are married, there is too much at stake – we must protect Christ’s name and our name, our spouse and children.

      The cost of adultery is too great.

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    • Michael61
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 3:06pm

      @riverdog: If you don’t understand something, it is stupid?

      According to Cain, it is a stepping stone to the flat tax.

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    • SerikFox
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 4:04pm

      @ River dog I want someone to answer this for me. If 999 is supposed to raise taxes, then why do the same people saying that also say there will be far less tax revenue?

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 4:19pm

      @micheal61
      Nope, Obama is a mystery , where are his high school sweethearts? His jobs? His high school friends? His first car ? His boyhood home ? His school records ? What about the mother of his gay lover, who is now speaking out, how bout those years in Indonesia memorizing the koran ? Who the hell is this guy ?

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    • UrsaMajor
      Posted on November 30, 2011 at 3:37am

      You are forgetting one of his biggest aqccomplishments of all…

      He was the ONLY person running for the office of President who had the COURGE to go to Israel and take a stand. Not even Glenn’s darlings Bachmann and Santorum had the guts to that.

      THAT is true leadership.

      THAT is true courage.

      For Glenn Beck, of all people, to join the Progressive Media dogpile to destroy a NON career politican… who was part of the Tea Party movement FROM THE BEGINNING (and not a Republican politician who latched themselves to the cart once it started rolling)… based on absolutely NOTHING more than hearsay feels like a betrayl.

      I would think as many times as it has been done to HIM, Beck wouldn’t be stupid enough… or hypocritical enough… to do the same thing to another person.

      I guess my thinking would be wrong.

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  • mcFirst
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:55pm

    Cain has identified the problem and is now ready to address it.

    As part of the 999 tax plan he is adding a special tax writeoff for buying your wife gifts after she learns of a spouse being unfaithful.

    Its now called 999 oops.

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  • THX-1138
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:52pm

    When the RNC and the Media pick our candidates we literally can’t win.

    Captain: “You gonna get used to wearin’ them chains afer a while, Luke. Don‘t you never stop listenin’ to them clinking… ’cause they gonna remind you of what I been saying… for your own good.”

    Luke: “Wish you‘d stop bein’ so good to me, cap’n.”

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  • mcFirst
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:51pm

    let’s see how he manages this problem. As he states – First we identify the problem…

    Maybe his 999 plan can fix this too.

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  • recoveringneocon
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:48pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuhzwZVpFtU&feature=related says it all

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  • Locked
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:47pm

    Personally don’t care if Cain had an affair or not. Sexual harassment? A bit more serious, but again, no lawsuits were ever successful. What I care about is that his 9-9-9 tax policy is simple… and simply stupid. It won’t get us out of a deficit, let alone the debt. I still stand by my idea that he’s milking this for personal reasons: watch if he doesn‘t come out with a book on the campaign after it’s over.

    As for the question “Can men and women just be friends?” Of course they can. It takes men and women of good character though, which can be tough to find. When in doubt, just don’t risk it.

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    • Michael61
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:52pm

      “Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed there are many rewards, if you disgrace yourself you can always write a book.” – Ronald Reagan

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:09pm

      and Herman as written that book.

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  • CarolinaGirl
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:46pm

    Cain will drop out. Too much info will be forthcoming with this woman. Shame on him for lying and taking political contributions from the average American Joe. Just shame on him and his arrogance.

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    • neverending
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:54pm

      Problem is there just isn’t shame anymore.

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    • Michael61
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:55pm

      Obama came to power in Chicago using these tactics. His opponent’s sealed divorce papers were mysteriously stolen and published. Another opponent was accused of sexual harassment. And so on, and so forth.

      David Axelrod can do wonders. What would be Obama without his dirty tricks?

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    • THX-1138
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:56pm

      Arrogance : “an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions.”

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    • 9635kari
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:01pm

      I agree. How can it be that all the women are lying. I know they (whoever they is) say that the left does not want a black conservative in the White House. Could all these women be connected somehow to take Cain down? I doubt it. If we do find eventually that they were all telling the truth, I will have lost all faith in humanity. He has been a great actor if that is the what has happened.

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    • hi
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:19pm

      None of the women have credibility. The first one sued her second boss three months later. A judge approved her coming forward and discussing the details, but all the sudden she never said a word again.

      There is a picture of the next woman posing with her arm around him a month earlier at a Tea Party gathering. An abused woman does not hug her abuser.

      The woman who claims having an affair also has numerous lawsuits and is in great debt.

      The evidence points to all accusers being lying, racist, gold diggers.

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:23pm

      @mich
      I don’t see how comparing or using OB’s past has anything to do with picking a Republican. Are you saying we should lower our standards? Or are you looking for the Dems to pick our candidate?

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    • Sargint Rock
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 3:12pm

      My, My. The Oracle of Delphi speaks. ps. bl ow it out yer ar se!

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    • Sargint Rock
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 3:16pm

      Shrew!!!

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    • Duddio
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 3:51pm

      AGAIN, this is all coming from people associated with the NRS!!! What is the connection here?? Why was there nothing before or after (until Ms. White, the gold digger with the libel, stalking, and slander lawsuits against her from a former boss), the NRS? Why was there no one at Godfathers, Burger King, the Navy, his first Senate campaign, his radio show, or the Tea Party activism that had the same experience?
      Are we supposed to believe that he just lost his mind while he was at the National Restaurant Association? I don’t believe this all adds up to his guilt. I DO believe it adds up to rancid fear on the part of the progressives supporting Obama. I am well aware of David Axelrod’s method of operation using allegations & slander in political contests to keep opponents from even getting as far as the vote.
      Each of the women that have some forward have shown financial problems and legal problems. For us not to believe that they could be manipulated in to smearing Herman would be foolish.
      NONE of these allegations have been corroborated or proven, but they are having the intended effect: Take Herman down, so he can’t attack Obama, even as a VP candidate.
      He should have better guarded against the appearance of impropriety, but Im not buying it that he’s guilty… not without proof.

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    • UrsaMajor
      Posted on November 30, 2011 at 3:47am

      so, so sad to see just how easliy a bunch of “conservatives” can fall for Chicago-style dirty politics. All of you make Saul Alinsky proud.

      1. Don’t you DARE be a Black coservative and run for the office of President.
      2. Don’t you DARE be someone who has worked in the private sector and run for the office of President without spending years, or even decades, living off of the taxes of other people as a Career Politician.
      3. Don’t you DARE go to Israel and take a stand for them, showing what a TRUE leader with COURAGE really is… you better stay at home with the rest of us Republican Presidental hopeful cowards and only SAY that you stand for Israel.

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  • BlackAce41
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:42pm

    I think Woman that accuse men of Harassment are way to sensitive and need be up front if you don’t like what is going on leave and avoid the situation completely. I was accused once and when it was brought forward to me. They pulled us both into room and told me the accusations that i was parking next to her car and i put my foot under her chair and that i was talking in words that had sexual over tones. I started laughing when the told me all this, as they where getting ready to fire me because of me not taking it seriously . But thanks to friends at the job they came to my aid and told the accuser and my bosses that i had ADHD and that many times i do not have control of my action which is the truth. I do not remember what i say or do sometimes…. When they told me not to speak about it anyone i did the complete opposite i told everyone in the office including my girlfriend at the time. granted i moved to another branch soon afterward….

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  • LB
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:40pm

    If your morals and values are in check, you can dine with anyone.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 3:31pm

      Not quite, you also need to be a good enough judge of character to recognize whether their morals and values are on the same level as your own.

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  • heyjim55
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:40pm

    I think that anyone with a past that can be brought up against them that can hurt their chances political office should have not run at all. If Cain is guilty of these things then clearly his ego and arrogance as overwhelmed his better judgement. We have all learned by now that politics is a high stakes game with lots of money to be spent on finding whats under a potential candidate’s finger nails particularly a Right wing candidate. Yesterday a writer from the Washington Post was advertising for help in finding mud on Newt Gingrich , if anyone knows anything or has anything to contact him. I know the real problem lies with the Left’s control or hold on the media since they are behind most of these types of attacks and tactics.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:08pm

      I have been asked to run for office by several people but I cannot because of a stupid thing I did in college 20 years ago. It was a hazing ritual to do a scavenger hunt and you could not buy the items. I ended up taking a chicken (live) from a chicken farm, was caught and because it was in the early morning hours I was charged with burglary. I was naive and plead to 2nd degree burglary. Seven years later I was able to have the conviction overturned and the action dismissed and I have never done anything like that since. I am an honest citizen and even have a clean driving record over the last ten years, but that one thing will keep me from ever running for office as it would be found and published everywhere. This is why I raised my children telling them to not do something stupid even if being pressured by their peers as it will follow you all your life even if you are the most honest person in the world.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 3:45pm

      No Tea Party person on earth would vote for Newt. Gingrich wrote the forward for a book “Creating a New Civilization” by Alvin and Heidi Tofler, who are “ex” Marxists and “futurists” that Newt calls friends. “The Constitution of the United States needs to be reconsidered and altered…..The system that served us so well must, in its turn, die and be replaced. ”

      Sure sounds like UN Agenda 21 to me! Learn about it before you vote! Glenn has warned about it for years! Why doesn’t everyone know already?

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  • PATRIOTGRUNT
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:38pm

    Traveled for business extensivly in the past. Never ever went out to dinner with a woman alone. Always in a group. Never offered to give any woman a ride home. “ Head them off at the pass ” strategy. Works really well. I bet Cain wishes he followed that logic.“ Stupid is as Stupid Does ”- Forest Gump.

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  • poster
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:34pm

    In Herman Cain, we’re looking at an example of why the primary process is so important. He says he’s “reassessing” his campaign. We’ll see.

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  • lylejk
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:32pm

    It’s sad that we have to be cautious w.r.t. co-workers because of the appearance of inpropriety. That is the reason there will never be equal opportunities between the sexes. Guess that’s how our society works. I will add that if you are a CEO of any business, you have to always have multiple folk during dinner business arrangements if opposite sex folk are involved so that is the lesson we have seen here with Mr. Cain. Don’t dare make friends with the opposite sex period since the opposite sex will frame you if given enough incentive to do so. ‘Nough said. :)

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  • This_Individual
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:31pm

    So what? I don’t care if he cheated on his wife. That’s for Cain and his wife to work out. Just keep the federal gooberment out of the private sector.

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    • Texas Chris
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:03pm

      A man who cheats on his wife then lies to the public about it has proven himself unfaithful to both.

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    • mydogtippy
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:35pm

      That is there business, and I have male friends that are married and have help them when they need it.And there has never bend anything between them and me.If you are a friend you help when needed. And most I new for over 35 years and they are married and have wounderful family and great wifes.And if he help her financially like he had said maybe in some business she was in who realy knows.It is just shame that all this is coming out now, just when he was starting to higher in the polls.And why did they wait so long to start talking about all this stuff now.It is questionabe

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    • theDfactor
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 4:14pm

      Cain reassessing campaign after affair charge…!
      Cain’s lawyer, Lin Wood, said the allegation “appears to be an accusation of private, alleged consensual conduct between adults – a subject matter which is not a proper subject of inquiry by the media or the public.”
      Oh really Mr. Wood…?
      Well let’s see how that affects the feelings and beliefs of American Christian conservatives…?
      Oh wait… Cain is supposed to be a Christian Conservative…
      Hmmm… What’s missing from your morals, virtue, and values Herman…?
      The Christian part or the conservative part…?
      I’m guessing both…!
      “It’s not like harassment because it was consensual.” Cain’s lawyer’s statement to the media.
      Really…? This is an indication of how far and fast we’ve fallen in America.
      I don’t understand why Herman Cain is not suing these women if they are lying… There is a reason and deep down inside your gut you know why… Don’t you…?

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  • Bumr50
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:29pm

    Cain’s also a minister, which makes him an easy, trusting mark for predatory bimbos.

    In Glenn’s world, I suppose men can’t do anything nice for women other than their wives without the expectation of sexual payment.

    Sorry. Not gonna live there. If that’s truly the state of things, we should all just Jim Jones out.

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  • Bumr50
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:27pm

    The idea that I, as a married man, can’t have dinner with a female employee on the road is absolutely ludicrous.

    Are we all supposed to completely avoid the opposite sex and live in a constant state of vigilance outside of the workplace for fear of “what people might say”?

    That’s idiotic. No one should have to live like that, or else the gossip machine wins.

    PS – George Washington was a great guy. He wasn’t PERFECT.

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    • isur5ed
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 4:10pm

      Perhaps you should consider what risks you are taking when opening up your attentions to another woman. Gossip is not the primary risk. The strength of your marriage hangs in the balance. Does this dining out with other women strengthen your marriage? You answer that one for yourself and then make the judgment call.

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    • novemberelection
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:43pm

      @BUMR50 Ask your wife that question. I‘m sure she’ll be MORE THAN HAPPY to explain it to you lol. Also because Cain is a minister, he is even MORE wrong for having relationships with many women that his wife knows nothing about especially for 13 YEARS! Only a sociopath could be battling stage 4 cancer and simultaneously conducting salacious affairs. The man’s got energy, though, I’ll give him that. Imagine how Bin Laden could have been stopped if Bubba were paying full attention to his job instead of carrying on with a young impressionable girl at the very same time he was seeing the intelligence. But too busy with cigars.

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  • OhCanada
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:26pm

    “When Harry met Sally” Can men and women really just be friends? Harry: “Impossible, the man is always thinking about sex…ALWAYS!”

    Sorry, the sex always gets in the way, even f not physically happening. In the mind it is.
    Natural Law.
    Period.
    Playing with fire only gets you burned.

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    • jakartaman
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:51pm

      Smartest post so far!

      All the other innuendo of smoke was leading to this fire.

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    • foobear
      Posted on November 30, 2011 at 2:03am

      @Ohcanada: “Sorry, the sex always gets in the way, even f not physically happening. In the mind it is. Natural Law. Period.”

      I love how fundies think that humans are nothing more than animalistic beasts.

      Probably is a side-effect of being sexually repressed for so many years.

      My wife wouldn‘t give a rat’s ass if I went to a business dinner with a woman, since she knows I have not the slightest interest in cheating on her.

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  • Shasta
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:22pm

    Epic? Really? It was just a long and boring debate.

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    • veruca salt
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:27pm

      Mr. Beck’s ego needs stroking on a regular basis; hence the title of this story.

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    • deeberj
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:43pm

      I did not think it was a boring debate. I think things like this ought to be debated because our society wants to tell us that the bible doesn’t need to be followed, but this is in the bible and needs to be understood.

      1 Thessalonians 5:22
      Abstain from all appearance of evil

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    • Pragmatica
      Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:54pm

      “Epic” gets posted on several things here at the Blaze. It‘s one of Glenn’s many psychological tricks he plays on his followers. Beck single-handedly shapes the thought processes of Blazers, so he must be “epic” early and often.

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  • Eliasim
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:21pm

    Who wouldn’t change their last name from “Cain” to something else?

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on November 29, 2011 at 1:20pm

    Should poiliticians who put their career at risk at least pick an attractive woman to risk it over?

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