Epic Fox Segment: Host Kicks Atheist Off Show For Calling Jesus & the Nativity ‘An Insult’
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The atheists over at the Freedom From Religion Foundation aren’t ashamed to let their anti-faith message be heard loud and clear.
The Blaze has spoken with the group and heard, first-hand, just how strong-worded and offensive (to people of faith, at least) its message can be. Last night, the Fox Business Network’s Eric Bolling invited a FFRF representative onto his show to discuss the group’s anti-Christian stance.
During a dialogue with FFRF spokesperson Dan Barker (who is married to FFRF co-president Annie Laurie Gaylor), “Follow the Money” host Eric Bolling was so dumbfounded by the group’s anti-Jesus views that he ended up booting the atheist-spokesperson off of the program. Mediaite’s Colby Hall called the moment a “‘War on Christmas’ miracle!”
At the center of the discussion was a Texas nativity scene that the Madison, Wisconsin-based FFRF has been demanding be torn down immediately. During the dialogue, Barker claimed that America is not a Christian nation and that the nativity should not be present on government property. He went on to say that the nativity represents “an insult to human nature that we are all doomed and damned.”
It was this comment that commenced the uncomfortable exchange between Bolling and Barker. “Sir, I have to take exception to the way you’ve described the nativity scene. It’s not an insult. It’s certainly not an insult to me. I’m a Christian,” Bolling explained. “It is an insult, sir,” Barker countered. At this point, the interview continued, as Bolling sought to move on to another question. But it didn’t take long for Barker to, once again, push Bolling’s buttons.
“Why was Jesus born? To save us from our sins. What an insult that we are degraded, depraved human beings — that Jesus created a hell — a place or torture,” Barker quipped. “And how would you feel if you didn’t believe that… superstition?”
Bolling interrupted the insults and abruptly ended the interview. Watch the dialogue, below (courtesy of Mediaite):
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Comments (1147)
mcccmar
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:04amgood for Eric Bolling= and to HELL with that atheist creep
mdlwoods
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:16amYeah, to Hell with him alright…that’s just where he will reside throughout eternity! The athiest don’t want to mess with Texas…they will open up a bigger can of worms than they can deal with!!!
mils
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:18amWe are allowing a smallsmallsmallsmmtmmmmmmaaaaaalll minority to dictate to everyone..
Report Post »Unfortunately..this monority is winning more and more…
greensteam
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:23amif god doesnt exist than what does? is it evolution? because evolution is discredited in about 30 seconds. did you know no organism gains genetic material as it ages, in fact it loses genetic material. how can single celled organisms evolve into fish and then humans when it loses genetic material as it ages? the atheists have no answer, they avoid the question. repeatedly. organisms degenerate as they age, rendering the theory of evolution as completley useless.
Locked
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:31amIt’s kinda like setting up one of those inflatable punching bag clowns. I don‘t even know why FOX would invite his guy on if they didn’t expect this rhetoric. The mature thing would have been not to even give him the time of day, not to cut him off because, surprise surprise, the offensive guy was offensive.
Once again, why I don’t watch talking head shows.
encinom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:31am@greensteam
Evolutoin has not been disproven, your questions only demostrates your lack of knowledge and utter ignorance of genetics and how genes are passed to future generations.
Jacque
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:37amWhat goes around comes around, “he’ is already getting his. Such a shame to be so miserable.
AvengerK
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:46amNo LOCKED…these people live in the shadows and hide behind the constitution and their lawyers. Their pathological hatred of christians must be put on display for the public to see. This has never been about the constitution for militant atheists, it’s about hatred of christians. Bolling did the nation a service.
Seasoldier
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:46amIt’s good that Bolling stood up for his faith and Christmas. However, it would have been better if he hadn’t had the grinchy creep on his show in the first place. The more publicity these people get, the more their message gets out, the more wackos will think they have to cowtow to them in the name of “diversity” and “sensitivity” and the more the myth of “separation of church and state” as “freedom from religion” will be spread. Supreme Court Justices Robert H. Jackson and Arthur Goldberg have written that the Constitution is not a suicide pact. Just because a tiny minority of extremists claim to be offended by expressions of our nation’s Judeo-Christian roots, the Constitution does not require the rest of us to surrender our religious liberties, not do we have to destroy the traditions which have united us for more than 200 years. Semper Fi
jkjk
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:48amGood job Eric! I wanted to slap that idiot, and almost punched my computer screen. Thanks for booting him at the right time!
JRook
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:49amOf course I believe in free speech, so long as the person doesn‘t say something I don’t agree with or believe. There is not statement more hypocritical than that.
Report Post »Mtroom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:50amWell, that has to be an atheist thing being insulted like that..I live right next door to Texas, I didn’t feel the insult…They must really be sensitive in Wisconsin to be that insulted from things in Texas..These people will never go there, never see this themselves, but yet it’s insulting? Does the rest of Wisconsin get that easily insulted?…. Does anyone there care that I have a Nativity Scene in my yard, and my neighbor has a 8 foot Santa on the roof?…Oh, sorry not a government building…Idiots …Be insulted in your own state at least…My God..
HippoNips
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:51amThere is no mystical place called Hell in Christianity.
Hell means grave…..You are either buried in the ground, burned in a pit, cast into the sea , or set on fire and put the sea………….In each case, you are lost forever with NO life everlasting whatsoever.
Report Post »The punishment is not an active one. You are not saved from death. That is the extent of your torture
Images of a firey everlasting hell are not from the Bible, they are european artist creations., that even the Roman Catholics reject as anything more than symbolic artistry.
SacredHonor1776
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:53amGreensteam what you describe sounds more like Lemarkism, as opposed to Evolutionary theory.
In Lemarkism an individual organism evolves (develops changes) and passes on those changes to its offspring. That is not the case in the evolutionary theory. Whereas Evolutionists believe a few individuals in a species, as a whole may be born with with genetic abberation/mutation. This they pass onto their offspring. If this mutation favors environmental factors, allowing improved survivability, the members of the organism without the change die off, leaving only those with the change. Over enough time and enough mutations over generations they believe one species becomes another.
If you are going to try to debate evolutionists try to at least understand how they describe evolution as working. Otherwise you set up a strawman, and they’ll ignore you do to your ignorance of their actual beliefs. You need to know your enemy, and be just as knowledgable of their beliefs if you even want to effectively debate theirs. If you try to argue they believe in something that they don’t actually believe in you put words into their mouths, and they won’t take you seriously.
You will need to understand the fine points of not only modern evolutionary theory but also the fine points of creationism/Intelligent design.
Report Post »rt elms
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:58amLocked – maybe it is because Fox really tries to be fair and balanced (in their own twisted way sometimes) I really think they try to present most sides of an issue. Why else would they tolerate Combs, Williams, that slug Beckel and others?
Report Post »boomboom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:59amPoorOldUnattractiveSadStupidSadSadLonelyObsessedCreepy athiest. Soon-to-be-dead-and-gone…but to where? to where?
robert
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:59amIt was plain to me me that the atheist has a problem…not with religion….but Christianity by his constant references to Chriustianity as “hate.”
He wanted to create the impression that he has several members and a legal staff. He does not. This character is the front man for a small group of homosexuals who despise Christianity for its rejection of homosexuality.
He thinks if he can marginalize Christianity it will allow him and other perverts to usher in an acceptance of homosexuality….all under the banner of inclusion and love and tolerance, the very same evil agenda that has promoted the inundation of thrd world people into this cxountty in order to water down the white power structure.
This is another HATE AMERICA pig. And when it gets down to the brass tacks he’s a threat to national security and as such should be taken out by any means necessary.
Many people are patiently waiting and watching. They’re making a list and checkjing it twice. This dork is on everybody’s list. When TSHTF he’s history.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:00amFROM THE ARTICLE: “Why was Jesus born? To save us from our sins. What an insult that we are degraded, depraved human beings — that Jesus created a hell — a place or torture,” Barker quipped. “And how would you feel if you didn’t believe that… superstition?”…
This perfectly describes the godless arrogant attitude that currently has a strangle-hold on our society. Most people when challenged on their behavior fly into a defensive rage, instead of owning up to wrong-doing. Just think of this in terms of school discipline. Not too many years ago, if a teacher or a principle had to discipline a child at school – the parents BACKED UP the school authority at home. Now it’s the complete opposite attitude: “how dare you look funny at my perfect child”
Foolish pride and arrogance perfectly defines a heart that has been made impervious to the Gospel. Only people who are willing to be honest, to embrace truth even if it’s painful, who desire to be good, who want their hearts to be sensitive and pure – rather than callous and cold… Only those sort of people are capable of responding to a message of salvation.
1 Corinthians 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
1 Peter 2:8 And, “He is the stone that makes people stumble, the rock that makes them fall.” They stumble because they do not obey God’s word, and so they meet the fate that was planned for them.
AvengerK
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:01amJROOK…you seem to have a lot of trouble distinguishing between the right to free speech and the right to end an interview that’s turned into hatespeak on your OWN television show.
Report Post »MangoT21
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:01amHow about showing some love?
Report Post »Locked
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:02am@Avengerk
“…these people live in the shadows and hide behind the constitution and their lawyers. Their pathological hatred of christians must be put on display for the public to see. This has never been about the constitution for militant atheists, it’s about hatred of christians. Bolling did the nation a service.”
That’s where we differ, I suppose. I believe in the Constitution and would rather see people use it correctly and follow the law than shred it just because I agree with their views.
The host was more than welcome to have this guy on his show, but cutting him off for being offensive was immature. As I said, the mature thing would have been to not have him on in the first place if you’re just going to cut him off for being anti-Christian. This atheist group as a whole is a bed of hatred and immaturity, but it’s disingenuous to act surprised when a person you know to hold views you find offensive then expresses those views.
Ari Ben TZion
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:06amG-d bless Eric Bolling for taking a stand in favor of our American way of life and for our traditions.
VerySeniorCitizen
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:16amYou mean ALL Atheist creeps – OR anyone who believes in a different theology to your own – don’t you?? How Christian of you!
carolinaconservative
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:19amWhat the heck are they smoking up in Wisconsin? Put them and California together and let them fend for themselves! Mexico is looking for people to replace their citizens!
ProbIemSoIver
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:19amThe global elite have printed on your currency, the words : ‘Novus Ordo Seclorum’
( The federal Reserve BANK is a private entity, and NOT a federal agency )
Novus = New
Ordo = Order
Seclorum = Secular : Without Religion
You people have been ingesting fluoride, preservatives, genetically modified organism (GMO)
Report Post »fruits, vegetables and meats, and PCBs from the plastic food containers and can linings.
These chemicals affect your pineal gland and brain functions, resembling alzheimers and making you docile. This way you will pay no attention to something as obvious as the “signs” the NWO gives us.
They love symbolism and watching their factotums.
They understand a small % will understand their Hints and take heed.
They understand that the people that are aware, will be such a small percentage that it will be no threat to their nefarious agenda.
They also understand that their media outlets, and the drugs they feed the masses in the food and water supplies, will incline their indoctrinated minions to dismiss this information by considering it a “conspiracy theory”.
Did you know the russians used to feed their circus bears Fluoride to keep them from attacking their “handlers”.
Wake up people !!!!
proudinfidel54
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:19amHIPPONIPS, If you are refering to Daunte’s Inferno you are mistaken. Perhaps you should dust off your Bible and read Revelation Chapter 14: vs. 10 or Chapter 21 vs. 8 which states “But the fearful, and unbelieving. and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers,and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. however, if you are like some, who think Revelations is not to be taken literally, then perhaps you should read what Jesus said about hell inLuke Chapter 16: vs. 22-26 and may God bless you and enlighten you.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:20am@RT Elms
“maybe it is because Fox really tries to be fair and balanced (in their own twisted way sometimes) I really think they try to present most sides of an issue.”
*Shrugs* Maybe that’s your view. I call it immature, or at least short-sighted, to invite an offensive person onto a show, act surprised and get upset when they say something offensive, and then to cut them off.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:27amI agree. I’m tired of Americans having to give up our culture in the name of some (minority) culture of denial. There is no utopian society. There is what is.
And American culture is what it is. And it is NOT anti Christian. If you want to believe in hatred for Christianity, and that is really what this is about, not “atheism” (atheism isn’t about hating God, it’s about not believing in or denial of God).
Report Post »This is vitriolic. It’s visceral. It’s deeply emotional. It’s anti Christian. Not philosophical atheism. IMHBLO, this is an attack on our culture. Period.
apollo18
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:33amI’m sure others posting here will sufficiently cover what should happen to this despicable, vile slime.
I wish FOXNEWS would do a story on why we have a judiciary that inflicts blatant hatred like this on us. It’s illegal for anyone to threaten the President, legislature or the judiciary, where’s their respect for us?
Does the First Amendment let pornographers run their products during saturday morning cartoons? Obviously not. So why embolden simple, incendiary hatred like this, upon a Christian communities all across America? Haven’t we done enough to protect Muslims? (Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, Kuwait, Libya, not to mention the blatant agenda of the Obama administration.)
After all, where are these judges going to be on Dec. 25th?
(PS I have an idea, let’s vote on it.)
Report Post »VerySeniorCitizen
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:33am@BOOMBOOM As an Atheist I am sad for you. You see I will live on in the memory of others, of my family, of those I have helped or whose lives I have touched and the things I have done – while you (I’m sure) (when you die) will have your blood drained and you will be filled with formehaldehyde, and then you will be burried in the cold dark ground – and maybe (if you are lucky) your soul will sit on a damp cloud playing a harp while you await permission to enter the Pearly Gates. What happens to you if you are rejected by St. Peter? I understand that St. Peter doesn’t like hypocrites! Anyway, I don’t know how to play a harp – so I will continue to be useful after I die and be fed to the fishes. Maybe you will find a bit of me on your plate one day. LOL! Teehee!!
Report Post »apollo18
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:34amIdentify the “complainers”.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:35am@ HippoNips: YOU WROTE: “There is no mystical place called Hell in Christianity.”
“The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ ~ JESUS
“And these shall go away into everlasting punishment…” ~ JESUS
“”You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?” ~ JESUS
“They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might” ~ PAUL
“Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.” ~ DANIEL
“The realm of the dead below is all astir to meet you at your coming; it rouses the spirits of the departed to greet you— all those who were leaders in the world; it makes them rise from their thrones— all those who were kings over the nations. They will all respond, they will say to you,
“You also have become weak, as we are; you have become like us.” ~ ISAIAH
You may want to revisit the Bible. ALL of God’s messengers were in agreement about Hell.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:36amThe US Constitution DOES NOT guarantee that that idiot won’t be OFFENDED! What a JERK! Go Eric!
Report Post »prophetic
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:37amGod bless you Eric
Report Post »brian8793
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:37amYou’re going to hell you dumb hypocritical bastard. Jesus told me the other day that Christmas is BULLCRAP, and he’s tired of seeing your gay little crosses.
Report Post »apollo18
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:40amIf they had to identify the Kaycee Anthony jurors, identify anyone that “complains” about infringing on their “freedom from religion”.
Florida (where Anthony v Florida took place) has a “Sunshine Law”, I imagine there’s something similar out there to call out this “anti-Christian” hatred.
Anyway, shouldn’t they be “proud” of what they do?
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:40amLOCKED…these pathological haters hide behind the constitution to launch their hatespeak. They have absolutely no respect for the spirit of it because if they did, they’d have no animus towards people expressing their faith openly. Why do they try so hard to insult Christians? Crucifed santas and their Newspeak they utilize to “offend inoffensively”. I would be willing to wager the overwhelming majority are raging liberals. Only a godless liberal can twist and vilify scripture and faith the way they do. And please..don’t insult me with “courts” and “no religious displays at public venues”…the entire nation recognizes December 25 as a national holiday. December 25th is Christmas, it is noted as Christmas on the national calendar and many Federal, State and Local agencies take that day off in observance of the holiday along with the rest of the country. I”ll take idiots like Barker more seriously when I see them call for an end to the national holiday. They don‘t have that kind of courage of conviction because they know the kind of resistance and bad publicity they’ll receive from the entire country if they tried to litigate it (using the constitution) and succeeded. This is not about the constitution, it‘s about militant atheists’ pathological hatred of Christians. They abuse the constitution and use it as a blunt weapon.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:51am@ Encinom………..With regard to genetics and given the assumption of evolution as theory for genetic variations would you please explain homosexuality and how it fits with the model of evolution and this being a genetic trait as is being purposed? Thank you ahead of time. BTW please give reference material and sources for scientific theories. Please try to avoid speculation and elementary explanations. I have a good deal of experience with genetics so I can spot BS when I see it. I’ll tell you what I do for a living if you choose to respond.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:55amWhy do these Atheists continue to try and dis-prove something they believe does not exist. They spend an awful amount of time and money doing this. Kind of like me spending billions of dollars, going on TV shows and telling the world that the “boogie man” does not exist. So why are they doing it?
Goes to show you ONLY spend lots of money and time to “dis-prove” something you really fear. These bozos know there is a God.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:06pm@Avengerk
“And please..don’t insult me with “courts” and “no religious displays at public venues”…”
I do find it humorous that you accuse other people of not respecting the Constitution, but readily admit with statements like these that you have no respect for the judicial arm of our country. But that’s always been our difference: I usually state what the facts are, and you’ll respond back with the “spirit” or the “intention” behind people’s actions. In the legal system, these amount to very little; but the Supreme Court, its rulings, and the opinions account for very much when it comes to how these issues are in reality.
Meh, difference of opinion, I suppose.
Report Post »Tom K
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:22pmAs Christians, we should not wish eternity in hell on anyone. A very simple definition of hell is seperation from God, which this atheist has achieved right here on earth. The best thing we can do is reflect Jesus Christ in our everyday lives and pray for the non-believers. Christians will be held accountable for our witnessing of Christ or our lack thereof.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:26pmThank you Eric for kicking the atheist off your show…Others should do the same,…give them no air time!!
Report Post »db321
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:28pmIn the 60′s 13% or American Atheist voted prayer out or our Schools. At that time, the 3 major problems in our Schools were: running in the hallways, talking our of turn, and chewing gum. Now, it is rape, murder and drugs. Teacher’s today should receive combat pay.
Report Post »TMink
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:28pmOur Savior died for that creep. Never forget that. He is not our enemy, he is our confused brother. He is precious to God, and we are deceived and defeated when we let our horror at his programming confuse us as to his worth as one of God’s highest creations.
I actually appreciate his honesty at being offended that humans are sinful and depraved! Most of the lost share that reaction but are not willing or able to communicate it so effectively and simply. So pray for the lost, but never, never hate them. It grieves our Father when we do that.
Trey
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:40pmVERYSENIORCITIZEN It is you that I feel sorry for, if your User Name is any indication as to your current age, then you truely have but a short time to come into a personal relationship with our lord Jesus Christ. I have a duty, as a Christian, to tell you this and to say I hope you can find Christ before it is too late. It is sad to think that you believe the only way you can live on is through the memories of others, especially when eternal damnation and hell-fire are what awaits you, I will pray for your “EVERLASTING SOUL” that you can escape a fate far worse then death and share in the glory which is in reach of you. Read John 3:16
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:42pm@Ecinom. Macro-evolution is easily disproved. You evolutionists always give scientific examples of micro-evolution or adaption. If your going to state that the guy doesn’t understand how genes work, then offer up some facts. I’ll add to his comment. If a DNA string is altered by more than 2%, it dies. Macro-evolution is a religion and it’s gods are unmeasurable time and statiscally impossible chance.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:42pm@ encinom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:31am
@greensteam
Evolutoin has not been disproven, your questions only demostrates your lack of knowledge and utter ignorance of genetics and how genes are passed to future generations.
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You enjoy being a wrong headed moron, don’t you! Well lets let a Nobel Prize Winner tell it.
Dr. Robert Milikan, Physicist and Nobel Prize Winner before the American Chemical Society. “The pathetic thing about it is that many Scientists are trying to prove the doctrine of evolution, WHICH NO SCIENCE CAN DO.”
How about Dr. Nils Heribert-Nillson, one of the top Swedish Professors for Botany, and Gentics at Lund Universities. “My attempts to prove evolution by an experiment carried on for over 40 years has COMPLETELY FAILED. It is not even possible to make a caricature out of paleobiological facts. THE IDEA OF AN EVOLUTION RESTS ON “PURE BELIEF”.
Or?
Dr. George Wald, Professor Emeritus of Harvard University, and Nobel Prize winner in Biology. One of the foremost experts on Biological Evolution theory. “Most modern Biologists having reviewed with satisfaction the downfall of spontaneous generation hypothesis, yet unwilling to accept the “alternative belief” in special creation, ARE LEFT WITH NOTHING”.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:44pmEvolutoin has not been disproven
Report Post »Nor has it been proven move over the entire thoery that man evolved from some single cell orginism into homoerectus is a THEORY. Even more mysterious is why are there 10,000 of thousands of fossils of everything from a 100,000,000 year misquito,to a 10,000,000 years old bird but not a single definitve sample of the several hundred billion if not trillions of spiecies/sub speicies it would take to go from monkey/ape to man. They also don’t have the trillions of evolutionary subspieces to represent the current spieces we have today either. Where’s the spiece that 100,000,000 year old misquito evolved from. And it everything evolves why ahave those misquito evolved in the way over 100,000,000 years they’ve existed. Evolution was a straw grasp by a man who swore hatred to God because of his daughter’s death. It was his attempt at destroying the Almighty,much like the recent man made global warming scam proved when you have science with an ideological agenda you get JUNK SCIENCE.
lanurse1
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:47pmThe US was founded on Freedom OF Religion not Freedom FROM Religion~~betcha he starts praying on his deathbed~~LOSER
Report Post »motonutt
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:01pmThank you Eric……We need more people like you in the media that has the balls to tell it like it is.
Report Post »I have always appreciated your honesty in the face of pollitical correctness, and your willingness to do and say what is right….again thank you.
proudinfidel54
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:02pmSACREDHOUNOR1776, if your observation of evolution is correct, then the only animals that would be alive would be Giraffes since evolution states they were evolved because the over-population of herbivorous animals consumed all the leave and plants, leaving only the very high leaves on trees thus causing the shorter animals to starve to death. As most evolutionist claim there is no scientific evidence to support Creationism, I say there is even less evidence to support Darwin’s theories, but don’t challenge evolutionists because they get down right nasty when you do especially in the High Schools and Universities. You see, to them, evolution is their religion.I recommend you watch Ben Stein’s Video, “Expelled, No Intelligence Allowed”. A real eye opener.
Report Post »spirit of freedom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:03pmhey hippo, ive read the bible cover to cover about 3 times i believe. yes there is a hell mentioned in the bible. jesus was taken there after his crucifixtion then he proved the devil powerless over him and broke the bonds of hell leaving the worlds sin behind with the devil and rose again!!! if you have ever REALLY read it. maybe you should go get the king james version (the one with out any important parts omitted) and read again. otherwise it seems you are just trying to spread misinformation.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:14pm@ smithclar3nc3
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:44pm
Evolutoin has not been disproven
Nor has it been proven move over the entire thoery that man evolved from some single cell orginism into homoerectus is a THEORY.
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It certainly has, but it’s okay for you to be utterly wrong.
Dr. Newton Tahmisian, The Atomic Energy Commission. “Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life ARE GREAT CON-MEN, and the story they are telling may be the greatest HOAX EVER. In explaining evolution “WE” do NOT HAVE ONE iota of fact”.
Dr. Edwin Conklin, Professor of Evolutionary Biology at Princeton University. “The probability that life originating from accident, is comparable to the probability of the Unabridged Dictionary resulting from an explosion in a printing shop”.
Dr. Colin Patterson, Evolutionist, and Senior Paleontologist at the British Museum of Natural History. ” The explanation value of the evolutionary hypothesis of common origin IS NIL. Evolution conveys not only NO KNOWLEDGE, is seems to convey ANTI-KNOWLEDGE. How could I work on evolution 10 years and learn nothing from it? Most of you in this room will HAVE TO ADMIT that the last 10 years we have seen the basis of evolution go from fact to FAITH. It does seem the level of knowledge of evolution is shallow. We KNOW it OUGHT NOT BE TAUGHT in high schools.”
Report Post »OneofMany
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:14pm@encinom – WRONG again. Evolution has been absolutely abandoned by the majority of scientific community. (aging fossiles by the rocks -strata- they are found in and then aging the strata by the fossils found in it?! WHAT?! Rediculous, no other scientific discipline would have been allowed to make those rediculous claims…but when you give up on truth, you can only come up with fantasy and bad fantasy at that. 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.. Evolution VIOLATES this principle. This has all be done over a billion times, give it up, or join your crazy leader who says when pressed, we came from aliens or on the backs of crystals…huh? yeah that’s perfect…
@SacredHonor1776 – You have it wrong, what you describe is Natural Selection in which case the genetic material has always been there and is selected environmentally because the environment favors those with that gene expressed (white moth, black moth example that was used for years by evolutionist as micro-evolution (what a joke) )… is just more proof of AMAZINGLY awesome intelligent design.
Evolutionism is DEAD. It was DOA anyway…but now there is solid refutation from the scientific community. DNA put the nail in the coffin for Darwin.
Report Post »Marci
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:30pmI have no issue with atheists, and many atheists choose to go about their daily lives and live and let live. But atheist activists have a very real religion, to destroy religion. Mainly…Christianity. You never hear them complain about creeping Shariah. Why is that? Because they are more than just atheists. They are activists who seek to destroy one religion and one religion only. If they want freedom from religion, all they have to do is turn their damn heads.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:31pmScience would have been better off offering the public an alternative to Duncewins Theory of Evolution through the combination of uniformity and spontaneous generation, or Goulds equally pathetic alternative of punctuated equilibrium. That theory would have rested on earth existing under hyper rich oxygen content atmosphere under a thick layer of ice above that atmosphere, which alone could account for longer lives lived, and much larger animals, and mammals, as it wouldn’t have been subjected to solar poisoning to the same degree it is now. But that would also have the drawback of debunking Sciences silly little theories of how the earth was formed, and in fact prove the Biblical account of the waters above, being separated from the waters below, by a firmament (oxygen rich atmosphere), which would also have the effect of it melting at some point causing a GREAT DELUGE (that‘s flood for the scientistic’s patroling this forum), leading to solar exposure, less average mean temps, leading to shorter life spans.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:05pmNow that’s what you call FAIR and BALANCED lol
Just another Jesus meathead.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:07pmAt the end of the day the silly little knuckle-headed theories of evolution because the founding base for building the largest ponzi scheme in the history of mankind.
Evolutionary biology the base
Report Post »Environmentalism the next level in the pyramid
Global warming the next level
Climate change the next
Carbon regulation next
Carbon exchange next
Carbon credits replacing fiat monies, and the gold standard for a Technate New World Order.
The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:08pm(BECOME the founding base) ^^^
Report Post »proud2bmom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:11pmGood for Eric.
Shame on you! How dare you call for someone to burn in hell? Even God doesn’t WANT anyone condemned to hell! “The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” 2 Peter 3:9
Afterall, keeping us from hell is why He sent His Son and that we even celebrate Christmas. Instead you should be praying for this atheist‘s heart to be softened to the message of God’s love for him.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:15pm@10thamendment
“by a firmament (oxygen rich atmosphere), which would also have the effect of it melting at some point causing a GREAT DELUGE (that‘s flood for the scientistic’s patroling this forum), leading to solar exposure, less average mean temps, leading to shorter life spans.”
While it’s refreshing to see someone else has apparently read “Thousands, Not Billions” by Dr. DeYoung, even he admits that the vapor canopy theory has absolutely no scientific evidence nor basis. It’s a neat theory, but unlike some of his work on casting doubt on carbon dating, there’s no actual evidence behind the idea.
On a side note, young earth creationist meetings are intriguing to watch. It’s never a question of “What does the evidence show,“ but ”what tests can we do to find evidence to support what the Bible tells us?” It’s an odd way to look at science, kind of a horse-before-the-cart style. But intriguing.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:22pm@ TH30PH1LUS
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:35am
@ HippoNips: YOU WROTE: “There is no mystical place called Hell in Christianity.”
“The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side.
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While hipponips clearly has the wrong answer, he’s technically accurate. The word hell used in the King James Version (and subsequently other versions) is a miss representation of the Aramaic word “Topheth” which itself is an interpretation of even older representations in ancient Hebrew for the word She’ol, or Sha’al. The root of the word is anchored to su’al, which means to burrow, and also to the spirit of the term which means a grave where the physically dead go, though their eternal souls remain. The concept is a grave yard surrounded by a locked gate, and separated from the Light of God by an impassable expanse, or gulf.
The word hell was derived from a weak Alexandrian interpretation of the word Hades for Hellenistic Juadaism.
Report Post »OniKaze
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:32pm@Greenstream
You are ignorant on this issue sir… Evolution is a PROVEN fact. But whether or not CREATION is a fact cannot be proven or dis-proven. Species on Earth have been evolving since the beginning of life on earth. Whether you believe that we were intelligently created, or came into existence due to some cosmic coincidence, is the only thing that can be argued.
Yes, you are correct that living beings lose genetic material as we age. I will not deny that scientific fact. But evolution does not happen in a single organism. Its a process in which a species changes over time to adapt to its environment in order to survive. A creature doesn’t just wake up one day and find its ears replaced by antenna, or its legs replaced by flippers… EVERY species has experienced this in some sort. With humans, over time, the longer you live in sunny, and tropical environments the darker your skin becomes (like a tan, but more permanent as this process takes many years and several generations)..
Take the Baleen Whale for example… An old skeleton of a Baleen Whale was found, and instead of flippers, this whale had legs with feet. This Baleen skeleton is the oldest one in existence, and proves that the Baleen whale had EVOLVED from a land animal (similar to a hippo) into a purely water living animal that we know it to be today..
You can argue CREATION, but anyone with a brain cannot argue EVOLUTION.
Facts are stubborn things..
Report Post »JJ from CA
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:33pmWhen these atheist hypocrites start burning Korans and denouncing Allah as an insult to humanity maybe then I will take them seriously. (Not likely) Or maybe if they create a scene when the Muslims lay down their prayer rugs in the middle of a busy street shoving their religion down our throats and tying up traffic, maybe I will take them seriously. (Never) These atheists groups are hypocrites! I guess their activism ends when there is a possibility of getting blown up or beheaded. They pick an easy target. Jesus, who taught peace and love and turn the other cheek.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:35pmThe10thAmendment
First Dr. Robert Milikan, has no training in genetics, nor could he as he died in 1953. You are presenting the opinion of a lay person in ths filed as fact.
As with Dr. Nils Heribert-Nillson, his theory dates to the early 50′s and pre-dates the discover of contential drift. His theories have zero traction outside of the relgious cultists.
You are cherry picking data and quotes with no understand of what the theories or their development. Evolution is real and god is nothing more than a bed time story told to little kids.
The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:36pm@ Locked
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:15pm
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I’m not advocating a young earth, or an old earth. To me it’s a non starter. I can read the Bible and say the earth was formed in 6 days, and state also that “man” has been on the earth at least 2,500,000 years, and have no conflict with reason.
I offered an alternative to SCIENCE, not to Bible believing Christians, because it gives a far less convoluted picture. One that is not the failed platform continuing to be peddled as nothing resembling a provable theory that life arose from nothing through spontaneous generation, and survival of the fittest naturally selected out weaker species (we can simply look at the diversity of life today to debunk that nonsense) though all shared common ancestry.
Take a stroll thru this site, but make certain to note the image at the top, and its reference to the Menorah, which IS a shadow of Messiah.
http://shadowsofmessiah.blogspot.com/
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:41pmThank God for Eric who was not ashamed to stand up for his Lord. I just hope he doesn’t give them any more air time in the future. These people are deceived.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:42pm@ The10thAmendment:
Regarding Hipponips post about Hell. Yes, the etymology of the word “Hell” is one related to various languages and/or dialects. IF the actual word “hell” is what was meant by Hipponuts – then I apologize for the misunderstanding. I took his post to mean that the entire concept was a fabrication. In which case Hipponuts would be in error.
I guess the point I was trying to make was that regardless of what name you slap on it (hades, gehenna, sheol, tartarus, etc.) – the messengers of God were in agreement that a place of eternal punishment and horror exists. It was created for Satan and all who follow him and is the destiny of all who fail to repent and call upon the mercies of God.
HELL – don’t go there!
“But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him.” ~ JESUS
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:46pm@ OniKaze
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:32pm
@Greenstream
You are ignorant on this issue sir… Evolution is a PROVEN fact. But whether or not CREATION is a fact cannot be proven or dis-proven.
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You sir are ignorant on this issue. Science has IN FACT not proven even “1” aspect of the silly theory of evolution. Every “finding” they have make IN FACT merely confirms the Scriptural accounts.
No Scientist in a right OR wrong mind would make the completely preposterous claim that evolution is a proven theory. “SCIENTISTICS” (fake scientists) do however peddle a faith based religion based entirely on something out of nothing.
Report Post »sanoyes
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:50pmEric Bolling is probably the least talented sponge on society, and only has a job because he’s on the GOP propaganda media platform. You could combine Bolling’s IQ with InSannity and not come up with a 100 points. Heck I will even through in the slimy creature known as Frank The Wordsmith Luntz. All three HORRID excuses of human flesh.
Report Post »Frank7
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:54pmplus one
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:58pm@ encinom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:35pm
First Dr. Robert Milikan, has no training in genetics, nor could he as he died in 1953. You are presenting the opinion of a lay person in ths filed as fact.
As with Dr. Nils Heribert-Nillson, his theory dates to the early 50′s and pre-dates the discover of contential drift. His theories have zero traction outside of the relgious cultists.
You are cherry picking data and quotes with no understand of what the theories or their development. Evolution is real and god is nothing more than a bed time story told to little kids.
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LMAO The speeches each gave are a matter of public record. Go to the sources before proving yourself to be a blind follower of the blind.
The beginning of genetics began around “1850” and gradually over the years advanced, and that led to new discoveries on the building blocks of life from the 1930‘s to 1940’s and into what is classified as “modern” synthesis.
I love how when real Scientists present their findings, religion based theorists rush out to state that Scientist has no credibility, even though they themselves have never proven a theory of their own!
You’re just another disciple of Gould who altered the intent of Science (the search for truth) into a collection of whatever science peddles is fact based solely on the strawman that the theory is fact yet to be proven.
In laymens terms, that’s a self sustaining delusion.
Report Post »cgnick
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:02pmThe residents of this town can’t get mad mad when Jewish citezens want to put up a Hanukka display or Muslims want to put up a Ramadan display. The Constitution protects all Americans equally.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:06pm@ TH30PH1LUS
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:42pm
@ The10thAmendment:
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My friend I wasn’t attacking your position at all. I was just showing you ANTI God based Christians try to use their slight of hand. It was to show that he can go to sleep being “technically” right, even if he’s using it a derision based claim.
patents
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:14pmDon’t you think that Aethiest will be sorely surprised when he stands before GOD and is told that because the Aethiest denied Him, he will have a choice of eternal damnation in Hell, or to wander aimlessly for all eternity?
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:15pmWhat gets me is the constant need atheists have of MISrepresenting what Christians believe in order to try to convince them that the atheist way is superior logic. Wouldn’t it make more sense, if your idea is truly superior, to demonstrate understanding and combat the other’s idea straight-up?
Report Post »There IS an idea in Christianity that man, in his natural state, is evil, but that’s NOT the message of Christianity. The message is that we can OVERCOME our natures and produce good through the application of God’s Grace. If he truly didn’t believe any of that was anything more than myth, why is he fighting so hard to misrepresent it? Methinks thou dost protest too much…
Encicom: No one disputes that evolution is a natural PROCESS. What IS still very much up for debate is the unproven THEORY that the process of evolution explains the ORIGIN of species (which was Darwin’s conclusion, sometimes called Darwinism). There is good evidence that evolution is a limited phenomenon, and that adaptation across species or into new species is so rare as to be inadequate to explain the existence of present-day variety.
The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:15pm@ cgnick
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:02pm
The residents of this town can’t get mad mad when Jewish citezens want to put up a Hanukka display or Muslims want to put up a Ramadan display. The Constitution protects all Americans equally.
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Which is true. B U T! While the Federal Government cannot wink or nod to one religion over another, the PEOPLE of ANY State can offer a referendum for their State to decide if they wish to have a declared State religion.
The solution is simple. Make displays that will be allowed State by State a ballot issue.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:17pm“Aldous Huxley once let the cat out of the bag when he said, in response to a question about the origins of modernism, that it began not in the minds of intellectuals but in their wills: they needed to come up with an intellectual system that would give them permission to behave licentiously. Darwinism serves a similar function: it gives intellectuals permission to think atheistically, as Richard Dawkins noted in his much-cited comment that evolution ‘made it possible to be an intellectually satisfied atheist.’”
Dr. George Neumayr
Report Post »jblaze
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:19pmMust see video of Hubble telescope showing scientific PROOF of God’s existence.
The Awesome Universe
Report Post »http://www.thetrumpetdaily.com/program/20111209
watchtheotherhand
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:20pm@ ENCINOM……….still waiting on your reply to my very up front non gotcha question so that I may assess your level of understanding when it comes to genetic inheritance as it relates to evolution and selective environmental pressures giving advantageous mutations an edge in next generation expression. Specifically as it relates to homosexuality and those who claim they have been that way from birth.
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:21pm@ Locked: If you’re making a point about politeness and the proper way to deal with a hostile guest, fine. I disagree (Boller expected answers to his questions, but instead got a guest trying to use his air-time for a grandstanding rant on a theological topic, not on a legal topic), but at least you make sense.
Report Post »But when you start talking Constitution, please don‘t forget that the very same amendment which guarantees everyone freedom of political expression ALSO guarantees Eric Boller’s right to practice his own religion in the way he sees fit. Besides, the 1st amendment guarantees freedom of speech but NOT the freedom to be heard! Fox, as a private enterprise, has a perfect right to use its microphones, cameras, antennae, hosts, etc. to remove a platform from anyone it sees fit.
jblaze
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:23pmHubble telescope showing scientific PROOF of God’s existence.
The Awesome Universe
Report Post »http://www.thetrumpetdaily.com/program/20111209
Cesium
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:28pmHe kicked him off because the truth about religion hurts!!!
Report Post »LookTowardsTheLight
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:31pm@encinom
I’m not religious, but I know I have a lot of catching up to do with The Lord and Jesus Christ.
That being said, please take your narrow minded, atheist view back to the Huffington Post where it belongs.
I’m tired of this minority trying to ruin Christmas for the majority. Stop with the fake being offended and stop feeling like your excluded. All you atheist out there are more than welcome to join in the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ.
Get over yourselves and get out of our faces with your crap.
Report Post »horsehockey
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:42pmSecond that, good on Eric Bolling.
Report Post »jimmy1029
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:48pmI applaud him for kicking that atheist off the show ..But i do have a question ..I see the anger all over the country from people who say atheist’s should just shut up when it comes christmas and respect their holiday, and i agree ..But how do those same people treat jehovah’s witnesses ..Do they they show them the same respect that they demand from atheists, or do they scream and yell at the witnesses trying to spread god’s word ??
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:01pmCan we include some more silliness by Stephan Gould Paleontologist and Geologist (as well as the inventor of the laughable assertions of punctuated equilibrium after Darwins uniformity collapsed) from Harvard?
“The ”extreme“ rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record ”persists as a trade secret” of Paleontology. Evolutionary tree’s that adorn textbooks have data only at the tips and nodes of their branches, THE REST IS INFERENCE, however reasonable, not the evidence of fossils.”
“The absence of fossil evidence for intermediary stages between major transitions in organic ”design” indeed our INABILITY, EVEN IN OUR IMAGINATION, to construct functional intermediates, in many cases, has been a consistent and nagging problem for gradualist accounts of evolution”.
How about Sir Julian Huxley, President of the United Nation Educational, Scientific, Cultural Organization (UNESCO). “I suppose the reason we leaped at the origin of species was because the idea of God interfered with our sexual mores.”
How about Sir Arthur Keith who was a rabid hater of the idea of God religion? “Evolution is unproved and unprovable, WE BELIEVE it because the only alternative is special creation, which is unthinkable.”
Report Post »ProTheist
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:08pmMCCCMAR, let’s calm down with the words. Though Dan may be an enemy of god, we are to still treat him with love. It is interesting however, that the way Dan talks, it’s almost like he believes in God, he just hates what he thinks of us as being sinners.
I’m not offended by that, but humbled that God would still choose to love me.
Report Post »Peachy Keen
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:13pmSo sad that the atheists protest religious freedom. It is what they want to be free to express themselves too, is it not; yet, they protest the religious freedom rights of others. They are so confused, but they want their 15 minutes of “fame” at any cost. A bit slow witted they!!!!!!
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:18pmHey PATENT
I would say “Won‘t you be surprised when you die and find out you’re wrong” but then again, when you die, that’s it. You won‘t have any awareness of anything and it won’t matter to you because there will be no more you.
Report Post »AmericaLastStandForFreedom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:31pmNo, No, No, No. I would not wish hell on anyone. What is wrong with you. Jesus taught compassion NOT hatred, revenge, or ill-will. Hoiwever, Eric Boling was correct in booting the guy off his show. THAT is the way to do it, WITHOUT MALICE.
American Christians and ALL Christians do NOT have to stand for the opposing view. Just stand up to them in your faith. Tell them the truth and MOVE ON. In the meantime, continue to honor your Christmas traditions, whether it be a nativity on your front lawn or wearing a cross around your neck. I have had people tell me that they were offended by the cross I wear around my neck. I just tell them that I AM OFFENDED THAT THEY DON’T WEAR ONE and then I walk away. It stops them every time. Sometimes, I tell them that it is not Christianity they hate. It is Jesus they hate and they will answer to HIM, not me. That also makes them think.
There are non-violent things you can do to defend yourself against atheists. But, to wish them to hell is something Jesus would cry over. The atheist has made his choice, but until he is one foot in the grave, THERE IS STILL HOPE FOR THEM – THRU PRAYER. BELIEVE ME, you do not want to see hell for eternity NOR would you want to see anyone else go there.
Report Post »Chapjoy53
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:41pmI knew there was another reason I like Eric!
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:49pm@ watchtheotherhand
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:17pm
“Aldous Huxley once let the cat out of the bag when he said, in response to a question about the origins of modernism, that it began not in the minds of intellectuals but in their wills: they needed to come up with an intellectual system that would give them permission to behave licentiously. Darwinism serves a similar function: it gives intellectuals permission to think atheistically, as Richard Dawkins noted in his much-cited comment that evolution ‘made it possible to be an intellectually satisfied atheist.’”
Dr. George Neumayr
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Speaking of Huxley, lets quote mine his complete statement!
“For myself, as, no doubt, for most of my contemporaries, the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation. The liberation we desired was simultaneously liberation from a certain political and economic system and liberation from a certain system of morality. We objected to the morality because it interfered with our sexual freedom.”
What does that statement amount to? A destruction of civil and social codes to fit the whims of liberal predispositions. Rather than morals, replace them with moral relativism. Rather than Biblical standards/laws, replace them with man made constructs of vanity and transition moral relativism into the political term known as moral equivalence.
AKA ANARCHISTS.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:51pmThe10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:15pm
@ cgnick
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:02pm
The residents of this town can’t get mad mad when Jewish citezens want to put up a Hanukka display or Muslims want to put up a Ramadan display. The Constitution protects all Americans equally.
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Which is true. B U T! While the Federal Government cannot wink or nod to one religion over another, the PEOPLE of ANY State can offer a referendum for their State to decide if they wish to have a declared State religion.
The solution is simple. Make displays that will be allowed State by State a ballot issue.
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You really are just a bible thumping idiot. The First Amendment, through the 14th binds the states as well. Any such referendum to introduce an official state religion would on its face be unconstitutional.
Fools like you need to be locked any before you can do any harm. Nothing peddling hocus pocus as science and reactionary theories as law.
Report Post »cargojack
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:03pmGreat Job Eric Bolling. I guess I will have to start watching “Follow the Money.”
Report Post »dwilco77
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:07pmI don’t blame that guy for being afraid there might be a Hell. He should be afraid. If I am wrong in my faith that Jesus is my Savior, then all I am left with is a life well lived. If he is wrong……
Report Post »CMDR6
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:11pmOniKaze….Evolution is a “proven fact”??? First sir, or ma’am, they still call it the THEORY of Evolution. You cannot have a theory that is proven fact, or it would become known as the LAW of Evolution. It is still a theory BECAUSE it has not been proven! Be that as it may, please site at least 1, just one fact or piece of evidence that proves that evolution exist in the extent of ape to man…..or fish to hyena to whale (as my daughter text books shows!!). Funny, Genisis 1:21 states that He made great whales……..
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:16pm@ encinom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:57pm
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Stop your complete insanity. Learn DNA and the process of life before speaking and making yourself a complete fool.
DNA itself doesn’t create anything, it’s simple the High Priest in the Holy of Holies. HIS Priests mRNA simply record what the DNA says who in turn take it from the cell (DNA never leaves the Holy of Holies of the DNA Molecule). The message the mRNA encoded is taken where proteins (amino acid constructs) build a reproduction of the story related to the mRNA by the DNA to construct the intelligently designed genome required for life.
There is no “gay” gene. Even the thought is contrary to the very nature of life to find a way to survive. So that would harm your evolutionary comedy club act.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:24pm@ encinom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:51pm
The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:15pm
You really are just a bible thumping idiot. The First Amendment, through the 14th binds the states as well. Any such referendum to introduce an official state religion would on its face be unconstitutional.
Fools like you need to be locked any before you can do any harm. Nothing peddling hocus pocus as science and reactionary theories as law.
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It’s fools like you who should be taken to the funny farm where you can be free to mate with cows.
EVERY State has it’s own Constitution, which you would think would be Unconstitutional, until the TRUTH is known.
STATES came LONG before the US Constitution. ANY power not lent to the Federal Government resides and is retained BY THE STATE! The Federal Government can’t endorse 1 religion over another. States who pre-author the Constitution and retain all other rights most certainly can.
While you’re locked up in Stupidville, Lunacy petition your care giver for a reverse lobotomy.
Report Post »Leader1776
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:38pm@ENCINOM
Report Post »Darwin said that finding key interim/intermediate/gap bridging species would be necessary to proving his theory. As much as I follow that theory, it remains FAR from proven. All of the findings/discoveries since Darwin have not gotten closer to proven his theory. Don’t be a non-science liberal …………. don’t try to foist a theory (like global warmer) with no evidence. Currently, Darwin’s postulate has just the same lack of credibility as AGW.
The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:46pm@ Leader1776
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:38pm
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To add more to your post. This is what Darwin says. “To suppose that the eye, with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree possible.”
(Charles Darwin, “The origin of species by means of natural selection”)
That simply states. Hey, we know that we’re wrong, but if we can find some useful idiots to believe our BS, it turns into a goldmine that lends to perpetuating “SCIENTISTICS” worthless lies.
Report Post »Zurich
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:48pmThese are no atheists but…….the government. Please read my message almost at the end of all postings.
Report Post »Oxirix
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:52pm@Mils
Report Post »Its not that the minority are the ones dictating everyone. Its that the founding fathers/constitution established a freedom of religion belief. Atheist, jews, mormons, evangelicals, catholics all have the right to believe what they wish. And our government can’t show support or preference for one specific religion, how mad would you be if the federal government started building statues of Buddha on public land?
Freedom of religion is one of the things that makes this country great, the federal government is bound to not play favorites.
encinom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:53pmThe10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:24pm
@ encinom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:51pm
The10thAmendment
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:15pm
You really are just a bible thumping idiot. The First Amendment, through the 14th binds the states as well. Any such referendum to introduce an official state religion would on its face be unconstitutional.
Fools like you need to be locked any before you can do any harm. Nothing peddling hocus pocus as science and reactionary theories as law.
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It’s fools like you who should be taken to the funny farm where you can be free to mate with cows.
EVERY State has it’s own Constitution, which you would think would be Unconstitutional, until the TRUTH is known.
STATES came LONG before the US Constitution. ANY power not lent to the Federal Government resides and is retained BY THE STATE! The Federal Government can’t endorse 1 religion over another. States who pre-author the Constitution and retain all other rights most certainly can.
While you’re locked up in Stupidville, Lunacy petition your care giver for a reverse lobotomy.
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You really have no understanding except what some holy roller tells you. The 14th Amendment incorporates the 1st amendment onto the states. Any State that attempt to name an official state rel
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:00pm@ Oxirix
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:52pm
Freedom of religion is one of the things that makes this country great, the federal government is bound to not play favorites.
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You posted the most important aspect of the phrasing. Freedom OF Religion, NOT freedom FROM religion.
Atheists have an equal right to speak and to be heard, but they have NO special rights in demanding freedom FROM religion be imposed on the American society.
That’s up to the States. It’s the Federal Governments job to ensure that each State has a right to express religion in whatever manner they choose. Thus, freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:08pm@encinom, I’ve only had a double minor in genetics and molecular biology, so not really an expert but I probably know more than you, Polyploidy is typically the way an organism increases in genetic materials, but this means nothing, the freshwater crustacean Daphnia pulex, or water flea has 31,000 genes, the average human? 23,000 genes. I do know this, there is no answer to how one organism has more real information, not just genetic material but a gene that codes for something useful, over another organism. If left to chance it would take billions of years to get any useful combination to code for something useful, and then add on an enzyme that could actually interpret that code, the world would be still populated by precursor biologicals. I believe there is a evolutionary process, which we call adaptation, but that can easily just be another mechanism for survival.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:16pm@ encinom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 5:53pm
You really have no understanding except what some holy roller tells you. The 14th Amendment incorporates the 1st amendment onto the states. Any State that attempt to name an official state rel
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I guess your copy and paste abilities match your complete NON understanding of the US Constitution.
You should leave this site, because with every post you get more and more exposed for being the complete idiot, unintelligible useless moron posting here.
The 14th Amendment does not in any form, fashion, or inaccurate inference of lunatics intention to pervert Law.
The 10th Amendment prevents that stupidity, and it‘s why it’s never been rewritten dumbass.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:32pm@ JohnGalt
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Very well done post. You’re keeping Science, Science, and away from the area how things “are”.
Science has absolute useful application for us to better adapt, and understand how to adapt in our various stages of development (not intended as evolution).
I’m a Computer Engineer but we have several Molecular Geneticists in research and development working on adapting defense projects. Not one of them would even consider the fallacy of what is called evolution in academia today. The information codes, from DNA to final construct of “active” DNA material building blocks, and why and how they understand which switches to activate and not in the material available in a DNA strand simply cannot happen with the precision it does by random chance. The Physics involved in that fallacy are simply irreconcilable. Especially considering that the vast majority of the DNA strand (helix) is considered junk DNA (it’s not really, we simply don’t understand its purpose).
One of my MG co-worker says it pretty simply. The more I learn and think I know, the more I realize the impossibility of chance, and just how much I don’t know in comparison to the intelligent creative forces contained in the building blocks of life.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:37pmyou are right on! Atheist takes days off on christian holidays- they don’t seem to give the pay back do they? They don’t believe in anything, so if they don’t believe in anything they should not be bothered by people who do. Just as we don’t care he is going to hell, hell has an open door and will accept all who wish to enter- Heaven is much more strict.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:55pmThank you Eric for standing up for God and whats right. When that lowlife dies he will spend a lot of time with his father Satan.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:00pm@mils
Report Post »I am afraid that Christians are the minority. 27% of North Americans go to church regularly (Christianity Today) Here is the link. Sorry you are getting this news from an agnostic.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/april/32.85.html?start=1
I read a lot, and have an open mind. I have no problem with a nativity scene on any property. I certainly don’t feel offended by it. I have even helped build a few, after all what you are right and I am wrong?
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:15pm@ brian8793
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:37am
You’re going to hell you dumb hypocritical bastard. Jesus told me the other day that Christmas is BULLCRAP, and he’s tired of seeing your gay little crosses.
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So you think the cross is a construct of Christianity do you? And that God will send people to hell over displaying it?
Ezekiel 9:4 And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
Interesting. The word used for mark in the Hebrew is TAV. TAV is literally CROSS represented by 2 sticks, one laid over the other.
GAY little crosses eh? The Cross IS the mark of God.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:24pm@ macpappy
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:00pm
@mils
I am afraid that Christians are the minority. 27% of North Americans go to church regularly (Christianity Today) Here is the link. Sorry you are getting this news from an agnostic.
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By North American I‘m guessing that you’re referring to Canada and Mexico as well. What does attending a Church have to do with being a Christian? The walls of a Church doesn’t address Temple worship, it defines a place of gathering to fellowship.
I personally could care less what happens in Mexico or Canada. If they fell of the edge of the earth tomorrow I’m quite sure that those marked by God will remain, while those who deny His Christ will be like Humpty and have a great fall.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:32pm@MILS
“*fortunately the minority is winning” over ignorance
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:51pmIt seems that so many have forgot that the United States was founded on Christian principals. This is scary when someone bashes them. I am a Christian and a believer of Christ and Gods word. I believe I am a much better person because of it. There are persons and different religions that espouse hate from infancy that want to tear down our Christian Society. It’s time to rise and express ourselves. WE MUST GET OUT AND VOTE THIS COMING ELECTION!!!!!!!! IF WE DON’T WE HAVE ONLY OURSELVES TO BLAME FOR THE RESULTS.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 8:02pm@ Willey
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:51pm
It seems that so many have forgot that the United States was founded on Christian principals. This is scary when someone bashes them. I am a Christian and a believer of Christ and Gods word. I believe I am a much better person because of it. There are persons and different religions that espouse hate from infancy that want to tear down our Christian Society. It’s time to rise and express ourselves. WE MUST GET OUT AND VOTE THIS COMING ELECTION!!!!!!!! IF WE DON’T WE HAVE ONLY OURSELVES TO BLAME FOR THE RESULTS.
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Amen my Brother.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 8:49pm@GreenSteam,
You do not understand Evolution. “Gaining” or “losing” cells, DNA, etc. has nothing to do with Evolution.
Good for Bolling! These atheist clowns never pull this anti-religion stuff during Ramadan; only during Judeo-Christian holidays. Which either makes them anti Judeo-Christian values or simply cowards. Obviously, Mr. Barker has no understanding of Christianity, whatsoever, making absurd statements like, “that Jesus created a hell — a place or torture”. Jesus was not the architect of Hell, furthermore, there is very little actual scripture on the conditions or nature of Hell and is very often debated among rabbi and other theologians.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 8:55pm@10th Amendment,
You keep running your mouth like you know something, yet you are only proving how little you know.
EVERSON v. BOARD OF EDUCATION OF EWING TP., 330 U.S. 1 (1947)
The New Jersey statute is challenged as a ‘law respecting an establishment of religion.’ The First Amendment, as made applicable to the states by the Fourteenth, Murdock v. Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, 319 U.S. 105 , 63 S.Ct. 870, 872, 146 A.L.R. 81, commands that a state ‘shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.’ These words of the First Amendment reflected in the minds of early Americans a vivid mental picture of conditions and practices which they fervently wished to stamp out in order to preserve liberty for themselves and for their posterity.
Again, stop pretending that you understand the answer when you have no clue as to what the question is.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:02pm@JohnGalt
I have no problem admitting that man is only beginning to discover how proteins and enzymes interact and how genes work. It is evident that they are complex. That said the fact that we are only beginning to understand how something works is not evidence of the hand of some made up sky father. Because the fossile record in incomplete, is not proof that dinosaurs and man roamed the earth together. I will not abandoned science for feel good myths that explain away the areas we don’t yet know.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:23pmI agree with Hipponips about “Hell” There is no such place, the real meaning of Hell or Hades is the grave, and there is a big difference between a place that somebody gets buried at and a place of burning. The lake of fire is the place of burning. But other than that, I think all atheist , other religions and other people who do not want to agree with the original law of the land in America, you all need to get the HELL out here. You Christians need to stand up against stupid people like this and make a stand before there is nothing left for you to stand on.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:36pmHere’s a debate between a Christian apologist – James White – and Dan Barker.
This is how it’s done: http://www.aomin.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=70&products_id=86
Report Post »Schteveo
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:43pmI’m pretty sure that saying he should go to hell is JUST the opposite of what Christ wants from us folks. We should be praying for and pitying this poor misinformed knucklehead!
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:44pmI’m surprised at how ignorant most people of this country are. All us Atheists want to do is help people learn the truth using EVIDENCE. Barker was correct about everything and I will follow this man until death. This is why we have SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. This country was not founded on Christianity. A majority of the founding fathers were not even Christian. They added FREEDOM OF RELIGION to the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION for a reason. We say “happy holidays” out of respect for the other religions. Christmas (which isn’t even when Jesus was born) is not the only holiday in December.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:16pm@encinom It has been disproven, you are so far left and against anything that is good that you fail to see it. Case in point coming on here and trolling. Also it is the Word of God that hasn’t been disproven.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:19pm@ Evidence,
Report Post »Evidence is to the contrary. That’s NOT all you atheists want, and you are also selectively immune to evidence. If you’re position is so logically superior, then stop purposely mischaracterizing your opponents. There’s no need to take an obvious expression of good will (Merry Christmas!) to mean a dire insult. There is no insult intended to any faith by uttering those words. To so twist meanings is EVIDENCE that your own will is not noble as you claim, but ill. The evidence is that you seek the destruction of beliefs that lead to good outcomes. You don’t subscribe to those beliefs, fine, your choice. But the evidence is still in their favor. For example, whether or not you agree that there is a God who is Father of our spirits, it is undeniable that this belief leads to a deep respect for the liberty and equality of our human brothers and sisters. The fact that abuses of this belief have led to wars in the past is immaterial to that statement of truth.
You are also wrong about the founders, about their motivations for framing our govt the way the did, and about the “separation of church and state” which does not accurately reflect the 1st amendment language. You are correct that Jesus wasn’t born in December, but when we choose to celebrate it is less important than that, what and how we celebrate it.
jzs
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:26pmWATCHTHEOTHERHAND(GLENN) I’ll address you specifically as someone who says they they “know a lot about genetics” and says, coyly, that you may tell us what you do for a living, something that will presumably boost credibility. Don’t bother, it doesn’t matter. Seriously.
Evolution is “settled science” and has been for 50 years, if not 100. The principals of evolution are taught in almost every school that actually teaches science, not just in the US and Europe, but everywhere in the world. Only a tiny, a vanishingly small fraction of educated people in the world don’t believe in evolution, including priests and pastors and whatever of every religion, who don’t view evolution as an excuse for behaving licentiously (that’s just silly) and don’t believe in conflicts with their religion or the Gospel.
Your challenge to “give reference material” for a belief in evolution is as empty as asking for reference material proving the world is spherical rather than flat. The debate is not about the truth of evolution, which God used to create humans in the view of the devout, but in the details. There is no serious debate any longer about the broad strokes of evolution, any more than there is serious debate about whether the Earth is 10,000 or 4.6 billion years old. Or whether the world is flat or “round”.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:40pm@ encinom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 8:55pm
@10th Amendment,
You keep running your mouth like you know something, yet you are only proving how little you know.
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I “run my mouth” on subjects I know a great deal about. The Constitution is one of them. There have been many WRONG decision by mentally stunted progressive plants punt on the Supreme Court by communist presidents. Spare me your history revisionism.
You idiots simply fail to understand the importance of Thomas Jefferson, or the adverse effects this latest shift in mental perversion directed by Obama has triggered.
“Whenever our affairs go obviously wrong, the good sense of the people will interpose and set them to rights.” –Thomas Jefferson to David Humphreys, 1789. ME 7:322
The worst possible scenario has been triggered for you communist POS’s. The American people have been awakened and trash like you are about to be tossed with the rest of the trash that “infests” Washington, DC.
You called me a Bible Thumper. Perhaps I am, but if you think that all us Bible Thumpers turn the other cheek, you are even more severely brain dead that we have suspected. I will live with people as peacefully as lies within me. God is always free to judge my lack of longsuffering as HE see’s fit, but that wouldn’t save your candyass.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:54pmHere POS aka encinom. I generally don’t make it a habit of tossing pearls before uneducated swine, but you seriously need an education.
You are about to witness a return to these AMERICAN roots, and there’s not a damned thing creeps like you can do to prevent it.
http://vftonline.org/EndTheWall/hartogensis01.htm
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:01pmWow…this was a pretty good exchange between some highly educated folks with advanced genetic training backgrounds…..and their very insightful observations that among themselves and their peers the more they discover the fantastically complicated DNA coding of organisms….the more difficult it becomes to NOT find a reasonable and genuine possibility that the randomness and evolutionary posits made by scientists over the years…..would require probabilities of chance that reach near infinite odds.
Report Post »I am heartened by scientists who are not in business to prove anything other than what they can….and still leave their hearts and minds open to at least the reasonable concept of intelligent design. Those same scientists in this thread if you read them carefully…..completely replace the shrill emotional “no there isn’t” attitude oozing from every single skeptic and vocal atheist in this particular Christmas story with their cogent and very acceptable argument. Who presents a better argument? Emotional….deliberately acrid and caustic skeptics? Or highly trained scientists who the deeper they dig into the genetic chain and the wonder of DNA assembly and replication….the deeper they dig….these scientists start to arrive at the near upper limits of something being sheer random. You skeptics are going to have to create a different numbering system soon….because the word infinite might just be close to being discovered in ways that will make your hearts sink.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:28pm@ Evidence
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:44pm
I’m surprised at how ignorant most people of this country are. All us Atheists want to do is help people learn the truth using EVIDENCE. Barker was correct about everything and I will follow this man until death. This is why we have SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. This country was not founded on Christianity. A majority of the founding fathers were not even Christian. They added FREEDOM OF RELIGION to the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION for a reason. We say “happy holidays” out of respect for the other religions. Christmas (which isn’t even when Jesus was born) is not the only holiday in December.
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All evidence points to EXACTLY the opposite conclusion, but people like you want to believe in a “modern day” construct of perverted minds who want to worship man as some form of a god, rather than the NATURE’S GOD presented in the Declaration of Independence.
The “supposed” dicta on the Treaty of Paris was no such thing. It is a confirmed preamble. What does it read again? Oh yeah, it goes something like this.
“In the name of the most holy and undivided Trinity.”
Why is that NOT a dicta but a declaration? Because it was affirmed in the ENTIRE first stanza of American Independence.
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:30pmIt having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the hearts of the most serene and most potent Prince George the Third, by the grace of God, king of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, defender of the faith, duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, arch- treasurer and prince elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc., and of the United States of America, to forget all past misunderstandings and differences that have unhappily interrupted the good correspondence and friendship which they mutually wish to restore, and to establish such a beneficial and satisfactory intercourse , between the two countries upon the ground of reciprocal advantages and mutual convenience as may promote and secure to both perpetual peace and harmony; and having for this desirable end already laid the foundation of peace and reconciliation by the Provisional Articles signed at Paris on the 30th of November 1782, by the commissioners empowered on each part, which articles were agreed to be inserted in and constitute the Treaty of Peace proposed to be concluded between the Crown of Great Britain and the said United States, but which treaty was not to be concluded until terms of peace should be agreed upon between Great Britain and France and his Britannic Majesty should be ready to conclude such treaty accordingly;
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Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:30pmand the treaty between Great Britain and France having since been concluded, his Britannic Majesty and the United States of America, in order to carry into full effect the Provisional Articles above mentioned, according to the tenor thereof, have constituted and appointed, that is to say his Britannic Majesty on his part, David Hartley, Esqr., member of the Parliament of Great Britain, and the said United States on their part, John Adams, Esqr., late a commissioner of the United States of America at the court of Versailles, late delegate in Congress from the state of Massachusetts, and chief justice of the said state, and minister plenipotentiary of the said United States to their high mightinesses the States General of the United Netherlands; Benjamin Franklin, Esqr., late delegate in Congress from the state of Pennsylvania, president of the convention of the said state, and minister plenipotentiary from the United States of America at the court of Versailles; John Jay, Esqr., late president of Congress and chief justice of the state of New York, and minister plenipotentiary from the said United States at the court of Madrid; to be plenipotentiaries for the concluding and signing the present definitive treaty; who after having reciprocally communicated their respective full powers have agreed upon and confirmed the following articles.
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Posted on December 14, 2011 at 12:24am@10th Amendment
So your argument is that you are right and the Supreme Court is wrong. Without offering anything as proof you are saying that settled law is wrong and that we must follow your interpetation of the Constitution. You cherry pick quotes from Jefferson (who wasn’t for the enactment of the 14th Amendment), yet its the opinions of the Supreme Court that are law, Jefferson lost that battle with his cousin John Marshal.
But, for arguements sake, lets say that States were not bound by the 1st amendment as you argue. It would be legal for New York to outlaw books by Beck or for California to to make it illegal to practice Christianity. Since the 1st Amendment does not apply to the states in your world, the bill of rights would have no teeth as it would be at the whim of the States that citizens are afford the protections enshrined in the Bill of Rights. I am glad fringe views like yours are rejected and mocked.
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Posted on December 14, 2011 at 12:31amLets turn to the Founding Fathers for some simple answers.
Q. Mr. Adams. On what do you declare for THIS new nation?
A. “The general principles on which the fathers achieved Independence were … the general principles of Christianity … I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that the general principles of Christianity are as etemal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”
Q. Mr. Franklin, you have been accused of being a Deist if not an outright atheist. In your mind, on what do you declare about the newly Free and Independent America?
A. “…God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid?”
Q. Mr. John Jay. It has recently been suggested that the United States was established as a secular Nation, and that a candidate for the presidency or political office should not be a religious issue.
A. Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is their duty-as well as privilege and interest- of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.
Q. House Judiciary of the United States in 1854.
Report Post »A. In this age, there is no substitute for Christianity…That was the religion of the founders of the republic, and they expected it to remain the religion of their descendants.
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Posted on December 14, 2011 at 12:38amFollowing the corruption of true Americanism in 1947 which was the perversion of Justices through the threats earlier by known progressive/communist FDR with Everson v the Board of Education, most Justices believed we were walking on dangerous ground.
In the dissenting opinion in the 1958 case of Baer v Kolmorgen it was stated, “If the court did not stop talking about a separation of Church and State, people would start thinking is was part of the Constitution.”
How sadly prophetic those words would become for this new age communism that’s sweeping America.
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Posted on December 14, 2011 at 12:52amIntolerants must be stopped. Same for fanatic atheists as fundamentalist Muslims, we must stop this people willing to impeach and rule others freedom. They insist time and time again to bother everyone else. That man got his prize here… Good for Eric!
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Posted on December 14, 2011 at 1:11am@ Anamah
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 12:52am
Intolerants must be stopped. Same for fanatic atheists as fundamentalist Muslims, we must stop this people willing to impeach and rule others freedom. They insist time and time again to bother everyone else. That man got his prize here… Good for Eric!
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Very good post sir.
My issue with atheists is that they “think to change times and laws”. The Founders were crystal clear on what the precepts of this Nation were based. On God. GOD is the ONLY one who can change times and laws. By Him Nations rise, and by Him Nations fall. The chief cornerstone of this Nations founding was, and remains Christianity by unanimous acclamation of those who risked life to secure this United States of America.
To destroy the Constitution and Declaration, they, the atheistic communists, must destroy God. That’s not going to happen. The sad part is that evolution theorists know that to begin dismantling the MORAL society they had to somehow make the Constitution a LIVING ORGANISM, changed by the whim of imagination. Teddy Roosevelt began it by tinkering with the SCOTUS. Wilson perverted it further, and FDR destroyed it as a separate check on the balance of power. At that point, the folly of evolution started becoming the hideous monstrosity we see today.
Report Post »Brothesda
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 1:27amLast time I checked judging is left up to God. How about you love your fellow many even if they may be atheist?
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Posted on December 14, 2011 at 1:29amIt’s about time someone stood up to these fools. I’m an atheist, but I believe in the Christian philosophy that gave freedom and virtue to this great nation. If he was actually an atheist, why would he care about religion at all? I love oriental foods. There is a Thai restaurant (I LOOOOVE THAI CURRY- haha) with a giant Buddha statue that I go to all the time. It’s not my religion, but I’m not offended by that or any religious symbol. However, I am offended by these secularists trying to force their secular amorality and their… “beliefs?”… or lack thereof down everybody else’s throats. No Christian ever forced me to join a church. If elders come to my door, I politely tell them, “Sorry, I’m an atheist, but thank you for taking your time to invite me to your church,” then they sometimes hand me a pamphlet and they simply move on. I like them. I wish I believed in God because I enjoy their company (polite and thoughtful) FAR more so than the non-church goers (hedonistic and narcissistic) that I’m always stuck working with.
Report Post »Secularists don’t care about offending Christians, so why would I believe that they care about others being offended? They don’t care! It’s about power, their egos, and making money for their willing activist lawyers.
Thank you, Eric, for standing up to these people.
Brothesda
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 1:51am“if god doesnt exist than what does? is it evolution? because evolution is discredited in about 30 seconds. did you know no organism gains genetic material as it ages, in fact it loses genetic material. how can single celled organisms evolve into fish and then humans when it loses genetic material as it ages? the atheists have no answer, they avoid the question. repeatedly. organisms degenerate as they age, rendering the theory of evolution as completely useless.”
Actually there is an answer, its the entrophy property of thermodynamics can allow energy to maximize in organism which will allow for genetic growth. This is a great video to educate you on your current inaccurate views of evolution. I hope you enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fal_M1z_v8
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Posted on December 14, 2011 at 1:51am@ Brothesda
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 1:27am
Last time I checked judging is left up to God. How about you love your fellow many even if they may be atheist?
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Judgment is left up to God, but judging right things that apply to our civilization and spiritual condition is left up to us. Why do you think there are laws? Where do you think the health of a moral Nation comes from? God gave us free will at the same time He gave us the mechanisms for determining right from wrong, and punishments to be meted out.
Hiding behind the Commandments and simply expecting God to intervene where He has already given the authority for us to intervene, is to take away HIS instruments (people) to effect the justice He has ALREADY prescribed. THAT is the basis for the axiom “Evils persists when good men do nothing.”
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Posted on December 14, 2011 at 2:24am@ Brothesda
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 1:51am
Actually there is an answer, its the entrophy property of thermodynamics can allow energy to maximize in organism which will allow for genetic growth. This is a great video to educate you on your current inaccurate views of evolution. I hope you enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fal_M1z_v8
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He said a great deal to say absolutely nothing. The law of thermodynamics are actually a localized aspect of the Universe as a whole. There is only 1 law that is consistent beyond local application and that’s gravity. If entrophy was true in the definition presented by the “story teller”, the Universe would have been collapsing eons ago. The fact is that it’s not collapsing, but is in fact accelerating, and the elements at this space is the same as the elements of the space we detect 14 billion years in the future. Unless of course you’re going to say that the laws in 14 billion year old space are different than the laws in THIS space. At that point you’ve created an entirely new and impossibly bankrupt theory, and you destroy the application of physics, and in fact the 4 basic laws themselves. Newton and Einstein would probably have a little problem with that fairy tale.
LinUK
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 2:58amSome people on this site, who call themselves Christians never cease to amaze me. What is that man if not a sinner? Who did Jesus die for? Sinners. Does Jesus clap His hands with glee that he or anyone else will spend eternity in Hell?
Report Post »Maybe we should close our mouths and open our Bibles.
Pray for him. Don’t judge him, that‘s God’s job and He loves him.
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Posted on December 14, 2011 at 3:00am@ Brothesda
I will concede this much. It’s a cute idea, entropy over the failed silliness of uniformity. Chasing the hilarious theory of purple dinosaurs to Lucy is entirely too much Aesop’s Fables than I can stand. Especially since it has been discredited, including spontaneous generation which begs for the humor of entropy to actually make sense beyond painting it with lipstick and calling it a super model visual aide for evolution. In other words. Entropy can explain a dispersing of the energy for physical matter, but it cleverly avoids the idea of intuition and spiritual idea’s altogether, as though the physical and spiritual were one and the same. We already know the energy of the physical as we know it will decay and the energy that powers the physical will disperse into chaos of base physical elements. As Christians we KNOW that we have to put off this flesh to attain spiritual/everlasting life.
The atheist has this to look forward to. The flesh dying along with the power plant of it’s nutritional energy. Then they will awake to the reality that their postulations and gimmicky theories were built on LESS than thin air.
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Posted on December 14, 2011 at 3:12am@ LinUK
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 2:58am
Some people on this site, who call themselves Christians never cease to amaze me. What is that man if not a sinner? Who did Jesus die for? Sinners. Does Jesus clap His hands with glee that he or anyone else will spend eternity in Hell?
Maybe we should close our mouths and open our Bibles.
Pray for him. Don’t judge him, that‘s God’s job and He loves him.
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Pray for them? Certainly. Judge the actions and acts? You bet! Pass eternal Judgment? It’s already determined BY God. Sugarcoating that judgment doesn’t help anything, and in fact provides avenues (other roads) of derision.
Would you prefer we simply refer to them as a whited sepulcher? The enemy wants to destroy the Nation that the Founders believed was borne through Divine Providence, maybe you feel it’s okay to shrink to the altar of that grove. Others feel we have a responsibility to fight to preserve what God gave His people, and we will confront that enemy wherever he rears his hoary head.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 8:00amThe difference between Christian displays and signs is they‘re aren’t attacking atheist. Atheist want their display which do attack Christians right beside christian dispalys. ATHEIST ARE ATTACK CHRISTIANS.
Report Post »apensity
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:54amThat’s a good christian reply.
Report Post »JohnGalt
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:07am@encinom, It’s not about how much we know about genetics, it’s about probability and chance ultimately. What are the chances of chemicals coming together to form logical patterns and have a protein (ie. enzyme) be able to interpret that chemical coding to form other proteins all by chance? Genetics is really about inheritance, every mechanism we understand is about passing or changing the information we have in our cells already, not really about how it came to be. No one is abandoning science, but science is a tool, or the way I like to see it, it‘s man’s understanding of the universe God made. The two are not incompatible. There are fundamental problems with man’s understanding, I remember back in the late eighties we did a study with neural net’s at the University I went to on BAM (Bi-directional Associative Memory) Neural nets, we learned they can never fully understand anything fully. Like neural nets, our ‘wiring’ doesn’t allow for a complete 100% understanding, it always gets 98% understanding or so and then trails off. So will we know everything? probably never, science helps but our minds are just not capable, so we end up having to accept things. Putting this in an evolutionary form, ask yourself this if Christianity was not helpful for the survival of humanity, why has it persisted for thousands of years? If it didn’t help us in someway, based on evolution, it would have been forgotten a long time ago, as you said “as feel good myths”
Report Post »encinom
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:31am@JohnGalt
“Putting this in an evolutionary form, ask yourself this if Christianity was not helpful for the survival of humanity, why has it persisted for thousands of years? If it didn’t help us in someway, based on evolution, it would have been forgotten a long time ago, as you said ‘as feel good myths’”
But it hasn’t, Christanity is only 2,000 years old and it is only recently that it is world wide. Hinduism is much older. Humans as a species are self aware and social, religious thought may simply be an evolutionary trait derived from these facts. Man grew and invovled without christianity for longer than there were Chritians. Great empires flourished in Asia, Europe and the Americas with the Judeo/Christian teachings.
The interesting test would be to see if dolphins, Chimp and other great apes, namely species whose intelligence approaches ares are also self aware and do they have religious beliefs themselves.
Report Post »child of the King
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 11:43amThis athiest,on this program, is saying that the nativity scene and the whole idea that Jesus would come down to earth to be born of a virgin and later die on a cruel cross for our sins is offensive, then what is he going to tell God when he stands before him at the great white throne judgment and finds out there really is a God? Sending me to hell for eternity is offensive?
Report Post »wyldibrouse
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 12:33pmNo absolutely NOT! If we are truly Christian we may refuse and resist their evil, but we must pray for them and have pity for them. It is not our place to consign anyone to Hell.
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 2:32pmJZS evolution is only closed to small-minded, close-minded atheist that refuse to veiw the facts objectively, never have I seen a theory with more holes in it then Darwin’s crap.Settled Science, only because you refuse to listen. Wouldn’t “Settled Science”, in fact, be an Oxey-Moron?
Report Post »ilia2230
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 4:23pmScience of Mind, Ernest Holmes, we are lost in our own hell of wrong, selfish, separatist, ego thinking. Jesus came to show us a new way of thinking so we could save ourselves, be reborn to a new life of positive thinking, faith, trust in our creator and ourselves. Many have focused on the negative to scare people, the old tough love method. But the true message is eternal forgiveness and Love of ourselves, each other and God, our wonderful divine creator, the only Mind in the Universe, the Mind of Love. http://www.teachingoftheinnerchrist.org READ Jesus Words Now, the ‘Pink Books’. All is Love Now!!!
Report Post »All is already forgiven, In God there is only Unconditional Love, there could be no other way, our Universe and Creator is Perfect, and Perfect Love, desiring to give his Children his kingdom of blessing and Love, Luke 12.
blackatheistprincess
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 6:13pmThat was a crybaby way trying to get him off the show.
Report Post »blackatheistprincess
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 6:13pmIf only Dan Barker believed in hell. Oh wait, he did! He was a pastor for 30 years until he realized it was all bullocks.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 8:49pmhahahah Kool…atheists are haters and scary people. They have killed more than all religions combined.
The have a toe hold and won’t let go till it is all said and done…either we are right or they are…gonna find out soon. JIMHO
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 11:18pmNow if Eric Bolling could get rid of Fat-Man Archie Bunkers long lost Brother… Bob Beckel, then I would turn Fox back on in my house!
Report Post »RunFree
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 5:56amYou keep saying a small minority–but let’s look at the numbers: Blacks make up 12.6% of the population; Hispanics only 6.2%; Asians only 4.8%….and Native Americans only .9%…Approximately 20% of the American population is atheist (According to a 2005 Eurostat Eurobarometer poll). That’s 2 out of every 10 people you meet. When you’re talking about a “Small Minority”…that small group is larger than the black and Hispanic community in America combined. You guys are committing a logical fallacy–the straw man argument. You make false assumptions, then attack those false assumptions. Not all atheists are creeps, morally depraved, or out to ruin people’s Christmases. You should be careful when making assumptions about an entire group of people. You are throwing your ignorance around like a beach ball at a concert…bouncing from one person to another. I certainly will not judge all believers based upon my negative experiences with some believers, who will defend their faith endlessly–even if it means doing EXACT OPPOSITE of what their faith calls them to do–which is to show radical love toward thy neighbor ESPECIALLY in the face of adversity. For a bunch of followers of a guy who taught pacifism, Christians are especially hostile toward non-believers. If you acted more like Christ, perhaps more people would want to join you; however, such hypocrisy disgusts me–as an atheist and a former Christian. I don’t treat people like that…Be good for goodness sake!
Report Post »Osiris76
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 3:13am“What goes around comes around, “he’ is already getting his. Such a shame to be so miserable.”
I’ve met Dan barker. He’s a very nice person. He’s right about how vile and warped christianity is though. And how unworthy of respect that jesus is.
Report Post »Osiris76
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 3:58amTo hell with you !
Report Post »Osiris76
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 4:01am“heir pathological hatred of christians must be put on display for the public to see. This has never been about the constitution for militant atheists, it’s about hatred of christians. Bolling did the nation a service.”
Christians are such *****!
Report Post »pavepaws
Posted on February 11, 2012 at 2:37pmToo bad Bolling lost his show.
Report Post »Trolology
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:27amApparently they do want to mess with Texas… Seeing as though they’re messing with Texas.
Report Post »SteveZ
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 9:57pm1. Look up the mailing address of freedom from religion in Madison, WI.
2. Go to Walgrens and buy a nice religious Easter card.
3. Send it to them.
4. Sign it with your love from a Christian.
Your love as a Christian may have an impact on one of them. Who knows. In the process you support the US Postal Service, Walgrens, and Hallmark!
Focus on Restoring Love.
Report Post »juge
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:04amWe surround them. That is why they are so ticked and come up with these stupid arguments every year. I am sooooo tired of having to listen to their crap year after year. Get over it! We believe in God and nothing you say will change that!
Report Post »AmericaLastStandForFreedom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:37pmYou can NEVER argue with evil because there is no truth in evil. Pray for them and move on to someone who wants to hear the GOOD NEWS.
Report Post »YellowFin
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 5:15pmAmericaLastStandForFreedom,
Good counsel.
Report Post »dimitrisokolov
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:59amReligious people are ridiculous. God apparently cares more about the NFL and Tebow than he does about kids with cancer, starving kids in Africa or kids being trafficked in prostitution. Christmas was celebrated by pagan Europeans long before Jesus even existed. A tree, lights, ornaments, Santa Clause, reindeer have absolutely nothing to do with religion. Your beliefs are just nonsense.
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:09amYou are blaming God for the evil that Satan has done. Someday soon God will personally stop the evil. BItterness toward God will not answer your questions. Seek Him through His word (the BIble) and you’ll find Him.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:12amI wonder if your hate for God and all things associated with him has made you this bitter or your bitterness has made you hate God. Either way, God bless you.
Report Post »Obama Snake Oil Co
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:13amGood luck with all that….we don’t care about your opine as it suits only you. Its not about you and what offends you, its about the majority of this Christian Judeo nation and its founders. We came here for religious freedom, you followed to persecute us. We get it.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:15amMe and my family are praying for you.
Report Post »Stevsea
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:15amThat is incorrect. Pagans never celebrated Christmas. The tree, the candles on the tree, and the Yule log were Pagan traditions (originated in Norway I believe) for their celebration of harvest that happens around the same time of the year as Christmas long before Christ was born. The tree, yule log, Santa Claus, and other ‘Christmas’ traditions were adapted or adopted from other religions and cultures. The only real Christmas tradition that can be linked to the celebration of the birth of Christ is the giving of gifts as is portrayed in the Nativity scene by the 3 wise men. I‘m sure there’s more or less to this as I’m not an expert, but you can look these things up and see for yourself.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:17amI bet you believe in that racist atheist fairy tale of evolution…
Report Post »momsense
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:18amDon’t blame God for the follies of man—many of the things you name are the result of man’s choices, not God’s. In the terms of cancer to which I lost 2 good freind and a brother in law recently–God’s charge was to be fruitful and multiply and subdue the earth. I don’t think it means physically subdue–but to understand. in the terms of understanding cancer–it’s coming–slowly, but it’s coming as our understanding and research permit–if some self serving bureaucrats’ choices don”t make it impossible.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:22amMy family and I celebrate Christ’s birth at Mass. We give gifts to each other at Christmas. These are two different events. One Holy and one secular and we know the difference. Yes, I know the connection with pagan rituals. Since there is no way to accurately determine Christ’s birth, December 25 is okay with me.
Tell me what do you do on December 25? Does your family exchange gifts? Do you celebrate anything at all?
Report Post »Choctaw25
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:26amI‘ve got you’re ridiculous swinging. My only regret is that, if you are an American, I shed blood to give you the right to speak your mind.
Report Post »If you are an American, buy a ticket to the country of your choice and leave. Perhaps that country will appreciate and see merit in your beliefs. You will be a hero.
But, until you grow a pair and leave, please have the respect for your fellow man and “EAT SH$$ and D$E.
WATCHMAN15
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:31amAtheist have nothing. When you ask them to prove that God does not exist, they have nothing, and yet they often believe in wormholes, cosmic strings, and other imagined things.
Our Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land, asserts that Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Thomas Jefferson in his letter to the Danbury Baptists in which he envision a wall of separation between church and state, cited those two clauses in his letter and described their meaning, by immediate stating thereafter, in the same paragraph:
“Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.”
Yes, Constitutionally these clauses restore to man all his natural rights, to include freedom of religion, and such natural rights are not in opposition to his social duties, such as governing.
This letter had only three paragraphs. The first perfunctory, the second, the meat with the above cited sentence, and in the third and final paragraph Jefferson said a prayer, thus illustrating that religion was not in opposition to his social duty as President.
There is NO LAW opposing one expressing his faith, whether he governs or not. In fact, it is unlawful to silence him or her.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:33amCaptain Crunch
Report Post »Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:09am
You are blaming God for the evil that Satan has done. Someday soon God will personally stop the evil. BItterness toward God will not answer your questions. Seek Him through His word (the BIble) and you’ll find Him.
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God is the creator of everything, he screed the pooch and created Satan. Hell, God damned Job just to will a wager with Satan. You worship a God of vanity.
proudinfidel54
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:35amEvidently you never heard of St. Nickalous (forgive spelling) ,You clowns always throw up to our nose about the starving people in Africa and around the world. I don,t see this great outreach from any atheist groups, no it’s the “hate-mongering” Christians doing all the charity work. The only service atheists perform is “lip-service”.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:37amYou’ve got that backwards, Dimitri: God cares about those starving children- it‘s the libs who don’t care about them.
Report Post »As for the pagan europeans celebrating Christmas before Christ was born- that’s a pretty ignorant remark when the etimology of the word is looked at.
But then, what more can we expect from a lib who doesn’t care about the starving, homeless, abused children?
Hockeytown
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:38amSTEVSEA actually the christmas tree has been traced back to Martin Luther, so it’s not a pagen tradition.
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:41amWatchman15, Yet the Liberals and atheists are hell-bent on portraying Jefferson as a non-Christian by continually quoting him out of context, go figure?
Report Post »Al J Zira
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:43am@dimitrisokolov: You’re right in your assertion that Christmas has pagan roots, along with Christmas trees and the rest. Your statement regarding Christian beliefs couldn’t be more wrong. You can’t condemn an entire religious belief system because of one ritual. The teachings and writings of God and his son Christ are a foundation for man to be able to reach eternal life in God’s kingdom here on earth. Christmas, I believe is wrong to celebrate, but that’s my belief. I’m not going to insist nativity scenes be taken down because of my beliefs. That’s more unconstitutional than allowing people to celebrate their religion.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:47am@Watchman15
First, worm holes, string thoery, etc. are not proven, but there is math, logic and science to test these theories, to refine them or to dismiss them. By its very nature you can not test to see if God exists, you either accept it on faith or not, there is nothing scientific about it.
The real issue is not if one President is privately religious, the issue s public deisplays of one religion on government property. The lawn of city hall s property of all the people not any one group. The relgious display on government grounds violates the centrial position of religious neutrality. Another good example is school pray, Chrstians can not agree on the words to the Lord’s pray, let alone in md-size and large cities classrooms are filled with many non-christians, so whose pray do you use?
Report Post »toto
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:50amFaith is a lot like love, hard to explain but you know it when you have it and it is infinitely better than not having it.
Report Post »Just A Private
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:53amThe religion of Atheism is more populated with fanatics than any other religion I have run across.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:57amNO DIMITRISOCKOFLOVE….Christmas was not “celebrated by pagans long before Jesus”. The older and original christian cultures, Greek, Latin/Italian, French..that is orthodox and catholic christians did not have “trees, lights, ornaments, santa clause [sic}…” in their celebrations. These are much later western adoptions seen in the growth of the church in western Europe when it absorbed the northwestern European cultures into christianity. The church felt it was wiser to incorporate Germanic and Nordic people’s practices as part of the christian celebration so as to create less resistance to the church. It worked by the way. Christians don’t worship trees at christmas time, they venerate the birth of the messiah. Whoever is teaching you the garbage you just tried to offer here you should go back and slap them..they’re idiots.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:05am“God is the creator of everything, he screed the pooch and created Satan. Hell, God damned Job just to will a wager with Satan. You worship a God of vanity.”
this is the kind of uninformed ignorant statement that I would expect from an uneducated easily led fascist stooge.
God created free will…not robots…..except in your case, obviously….
and God didn’t damn job, obviously….why don’t you try reading it before making a fool out of yourself?
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:06am“The relgious display on government grounds violates the centrial position of religious neutrality”
why? us christians pay for that public space too..why can’t we use it?
oh yeah because it offends fascists like you.
Report Post »kansas hawks 3
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:27amPerhaps you should look up Jeremiah Chapter 10,v 1-5. I am verry much a christian and do believe in God and Jesus. We do not celeberate christmas because it is a pagan day. I do respect people that want to celebrate their day. We don’t do anything that day because it is just another day, If people want to know what month Jesus was born in then you can look it up(because I can’t remember) they have( via computer) went back and tracked the moons and Jesus was born around late September or early November. When the wise men showed up it was said to be a long time after Jesus was born because of the distance they had to travel. Like I said I do believe Jesus is the son of God and he is our savior. I hope the all the people that still does christmas just remember for what you are celeberating, The birth of Christ not how many presents you can get or how far you can go into debt to show every one how christian you are. God Bless
Report Post »TADTAD
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:33amGod provided man free will. Why Tebow is drawing a lot of attention in the NFL vice other things going on in the world is just part of what I refer to as “The Revealing Science of God.” Many times I wondered just WTF I was thinking when I joined the Marines. Years later, the reasons why became clear as a bell. It was to provide me great strength and endurance when I needed to draw upon that experience. God knows, I do not. Even though I make mistakes, He puts me in places and situations for reasons. That’s just how it is. That is all.
Semper Fi
Report Post »encinom
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:45amrush_is_right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:06am
“The relgious display on government grounds violates the centrial position of religious neutrality”
why? us christians pay for that public space too..why can’t we use it?
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So do atheists, hindus, muslms, jews, etc. The first amendment enshrines the notion that the government in matters of religion will be neutral neither prohibiting or endorsing any one religion.
rush_is_right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:54am‘The first amendment enshrines the notion that the government in matters of religion will be neutral neither prohibiting or endorsing any one religion.”
no it doesn’t…it says CONGRESS shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…it doesn‘t say we can’t use public spaces, WE PAY FOR, for religious purposes…
you do know Jefferson went to church in the capitol building, right?
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:19pmFor your information Dimitri, Santa Claus was a real figure among German Christians, albeit not the commercialized version that we know today. Saint Nichlos, (sorry I’m not German and I have little hope of spelling it right) was a righteous man who gave of his vast wealth after being converted to Christianity. It is remarkable that people often don’t even know of this story, Christians especially.
I’ll take my “Ridiculous” ideas over the magic puddle of slime from nothingness theory that passes for doctrine in science today.
Report Post »Dr. Joel Fleischman
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:45pmdimitrisokolov
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:59am
Religious people are ridiculous. God apparently cares more about the NFL and Tebow than he does about kids with cancer, starving kids in Africa or kids being trafficked in prostitution. Christmas was celebrated by pagan Europeans long before Jesus even existed. A tree, lights, ornaments, Santa Clause, reindeer have absolutely nothing to do with religion. Your beliefs are just nonsense.
Jesus loves you! But I think you’re a ****.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:55pmGod is the creator of everything, he screed the pooch and created Satan. Hell, God damned Job just to will a wager with Satan. You worship a God of vanity
Report Post »The Bible says Satan self-created in arrogance, and God created Hell to punish Satan long before man was a fore thought. I feel sorry for someone who hates love as much as you. Man creates his own destiny by the decision he makes every move take you closer to or further from the light. So bask in your arrogance and hatred of something you can‘t understand YOU’RE FREE TO DO SO.
Because good Christian men got tired of tyranny and created a place where all could be tolerated even the untolerable.Like yourself
WATCHMAN15
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:34pm@ Encinom
Look for evidence of intelligent design. With science we can even prove a negative.
Report Post »It can be declared that one is cancer free even as every cell has not been examined. I only ask that the atheist prove that the spirit, or energy, of God does not presently surround him, and every time the atheist offers nothing.
If we land on a planet and find a building filled with whirring computers displaying symbols scrolling before eyes that cannot yet understand, then we would immediately assume that such was designed and made by intelligence.
Yet despite the 2nd law of thermodynamics demanding that closed systems degrade to lesser complexity, we have the indescribable awesome grandness of the Universe, from the macro to the micro, from inorganic to organic, from the most simple life to the life sufficiently complex to ponder the wonder of the Universe. We are far more complex than any computer or building yet there are minds that cannot fathom the scientific body of evidence for intelligent design, God.
As proof of God, I offer the Universe, all it contains, life from the seemingly simple to the most complex, and the atheist as proof that God does not exist, offers nothing. It is all an accident. Even as the expansion of the Universe demands such preciseness that should the acceleration have been the tiniest bit different the matter of the universe would have either collapsed upon itself or sped apart so quickly that no planet or star would have congealed.
WATCHMAN15
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:35pm@ Encinom
Jefferson was not being privately religious when he wrote his letter to the Danbury Baptists. He did so as President to assure the Baptists that their religion was secure even as they, or he, addressed fellow citizens, or the government. His freedom of religion does not oppose said social duty. Such Jefferson proved as he figuratively prayed from atop the very wall he used to illustrate the meaning of the First Amendment.
Think castle wall, it protects the king, in this case We The People and our freedoms, from being assailed by government, but the castle wall does not prevent us from walking through the gate to exercise any of our rights or freedoms.
Religious groups seek proper permitting to display artifacts of faith. It makes sense that the level of government, being petitioned for permits, not bring conflict together for such is not in keeping with peaceful assembly or maintaining domestic tranquility.
The lawn of city hall or Public Square is quite appropriate for citizens to gather and express their opinion or faith, for Congress shall MAKE NO LAW respecting the establishment of religion, or PROHIBITING the free exercise thereof. When the season of Christmas is over, perhaps the atheist can petition for permits to display their hate, disrespect, contempt, whatever, for the Christians desire to express their faith and love.
Prayer can be silent; no one need know the prayer, or whether or not one was said.
Report Post »MistyBlueAngel
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:00pm@ Dimitris if you bothered to really listen to REAL Christians, REAL being the keyword here, you would know that it’s not about trees, reindeer and Santa Claus, and if in fact, you were paying attention to the story you would know that too. Atheists seldom complain about these symbols. It’s the Cross, and the Nativity that they always object too. If you really want to have an objective opinion, read the Bible first before you criticize it. Who in their right mind could object to someone telling others to love one another as themselves, or to feed the poor, defend the fatherless, or any number of things that Jesus instructed His followers to do? Only someone who doesn’t really know what they are railing against.
Report Post »Btw, just because He cares about “kids with cancer” etc, that you list as reason to mock believers, does not preclude His caring about Tim Tebow’s prayers either. We are told in the Bible to pray without ceasing, and pray about all things. I don’t think praying about football is a grave sin.
Read.
Become better informed before you rail against other people.
Beckisdelusional
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:59amFunny, if that was an islamic scene in that lawn there would protest all over town and Faux would be all over it like white on rice. Then again, the locals would burn it down within a few days in the “Name of The Lord” lol. What hypocrites…
Report Post »jopmur
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:06amNice idiotic statement there chief. I know we are all concerned about all the mosque’s and Muslim homes being burned to the ground and you are a great American to point out this. Go back to Spongebob, the commercial is over.
Report Post »momsense
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:12amWhat positive ideology do Muslims have vis a vis Christianity. ? Having read the Koran years ago, i find no reason to count it as a religion either of peace or anything else positive.
Report Post »WATCHMAN15
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:40amWhat would the Islamic scene be?
A blown up Israeli school bus?
The World Trade centers collapsing?
Mohammad brandishing his sword as he peacefully slashes infidels?
http://www.islamic-wallpapers.com/actual_images/10012200715.jpg
Report Post »veruca salt
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:45amThis is just an anti-atheist, Blaze “red-meat” diversion story to distract folks away from the fact Beck is being skewered right now from many conservatives for his pulling the race card on the Tea Party. Wonder if we’ll read about that on the Blaze?
Report Post »starman70
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:46amThe message of Christ and the Bible is LOVE, “ Love your neighbor as yourself”. Some of the world’s greatest charities formed to help the poor and sick are Christian.
Let me ask you: How long do you think a Nativity Scene, a Cross or a Minorah would last in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Gaza or Iran? Do you think they would destroy or burn these symbols? YOU BET THEY WOULD!!
Oh yes, Christianity and Christians aren’t perfect. The Inquisition, Salem Witch Trials, Some actions during the Crusades, far right Neo Nazis and Christian groups using religious faith, the KKK and many others who distort Christ’s message are prime examples. These groups certainly don’t represent the majority of Christians.
The message of Islam is hatred promulgated by shriah law. Honor killings of children and relatives, stoning, beheadings, destruction of other faiths religious shrines and the murder of the leaders, convert or die, marriage to girls as young as six years old, women’s rights non existant, beating your wife once a week is permissable and the list goes on and on. While many Muslims don’t want to live under such rules, The Imams and the highest leadership of the Islamic faith demand that they follow Koran as described above.
Oh yes, it is these very Christian principles which allow you to post your opinion. If you were in an Islamic country you would be arrested, tried and convicted for insulting the profit Muhammed. Nobody will put you in jail for being anti Christian.
Report Post »Beckisdelusional
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:18amJOPMUR; I though it was The Muppets that were Commies? Go back to talking to your burning bush Meathead…
Report Post »Dr. Joel Fleischman
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:49pmBECKISDELUSIONAL
get the hell off of the computer kiddo, let the grown ups speak.
Report Post »TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:26pmHi Becky Ever heard the verse “as a man thinketh so he is”? Thought it would be interesting that you chose delusional out of your thinking to describe yourself using Beck (in case you’re really a Becky lets use both) so it is rather odd you choose delusional to describe yourself ie delusional means ultimately psychotic and someone you think you are is Glenn Beck or are you really a Beck (Becky)? May I suggest therapy? Some Christians really do the right thing and choose love but I am a stubborn Christian and it is hard so hard. I have an excuse though. Like you the devil (both devil and delusion begin with a de as deceptive does) made me do it. Hold up I already have a therapist and He is free. Just concerned for you thinking you are Mr. Beck.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:59amThat’s what happens when you have the so called fair and balanced attitude, fair and balanced means you would agree to have the devil himself on the Fox show to share his lies! I’m glad Eric booted him but how about not even giving him a chance. Was there any doubt what he would say? I don’t think so! Let this guy and Alan Combs get their own network!
Report Post »jopmur
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:59amAmazing, they “had to keep their heads down”. I guess if it was a live nude “art” display, it would be ok.
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:53amYuo are 200% correct inthat assessment and Watchman 15 is spot-on.
Report Post »dman78
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:57amGood for you Eric! Eric was polite and allowed Atheist Dan to speak on his show to explain the FFRF actions stepping across state lines; That Atheist fool attempted to preach his religion of Hate. Eric had the presence of mind to avoid a heated debate ( which I believe is the goal of any Atheist hate monger) and end the interview. Dan was being extremely disrespectful and shows the true intent of the religion of atheism
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:17amWell said. No difference between organized atheists and Marxists, that is why they are Anti-American.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:56amBolling, Cavuto (most of the time), and Judge Napolitano… are the only Honest people now on Fox!
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:24ambolling is a liar and a fool. the athiest guy a bit extreme and doesn’t represent anyone but himself and a tiny group of people. here is a list of hate filled books, koran and the bible.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:27pmMy question to Atheists then, if this only represents a minor fringe element of what you believe, then why do let them do all the talking for you? I haven’t seen many atheists who speak out against the radicals, and when they do it is typically behind the shield of internet anonymity. As far as I’m concerned, if the community allows people to go out and act like this without any sort of reprimand then they are just as complacent with the actions and words of the fringe.
You want to see true hatred, the full essence of the horror humanity is capable of? Go read Mein Kampf, Mao’s Red Book, and then read all the works of true monsters instead of the pathetic straw-man college man-child ideology “Oh yeah man the Bible and the Koran those are both bad.” People are more than capable of cruelty beyond measure in any setting and in any belief system.
Report Post »singleparent
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:56amwould someone hand these people a copy of the constitution and a yellow highlighter and have them highlight where it says seperation of church and state….this is a scam that needs to stop i cant stand athiests and in dont believe god or the devil but i do believe in good morals and values and christians are who made this country great…. bless you all and fight these people with all you have…
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:06amThank you!
Asking that you consider asking GOD to spend a day with you, even an hour, or ten minutes. You’ll be surprised by GRACE.
Report Post »brotherkasey
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:36am“Separation of Church and State” appears no where in the Constitution!
Report Post »What it says is “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…”
I’ll break it down for you…Congress can not declare any one religion over another nor can they demand you practice a certain religion over another. NOWHERE in the Constitution does it say that religious items can not be displayed on state property.
Once again, there is no such thing as separation of church and state in the Constitution!
Trance
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:55amThe Constitution does not allow the government to establish a religion. Since some jurisdictions are trying to promote Christianity and exclude all other religions, they are violating the Constitution. This attempted violation of the Constitution is what is offensive. It is also scary in the sense that if the supreme court were to allow government to promote Christianity, the next logical step is to require public money be spent to promote other religions. It is far better that the constitution is followed, and government not spend public money to promote any religion and leave religious activity to the church.
Report Post »One Man Progressive Wrecking Crew
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:55amEric Bolling is great, he dukes it with that fat dem slob on the Five every day, what’s his name, I forget the guy who Hannity has a hard one for, Beckel, that’s it!! What a fat pig THAT guy is.
These God haters make me sick. If you don’t believe then fine, keep it to yourself until you get to hell.
Report Post »mdlwoods
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:20amYeah, then they will be screaming God, God, God, please save me! Too late!
Report Post »grannyjojo
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:26amYour response is not a christian response. The Lord wants us to bring EVERYONE to him, if possible and you will be known by the fruit of your works. Your statements on here are not christian ones but one of hatred, telling them to “go to hell” and calling Mr. Beckel names. Take your thoughts to prayer and seek guidance and wisdom in order to bring more souls to the Lord. God bless and Merry Christmas! “Every knee will bow and every tongue confess”
Report Post »GKS
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:21pmOh No! Not another “epic” The Blaze article! The editors’ vocabulary really needs to expand.
Report Post »teddyc73
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:54amGreat job Eric! If these people cant have a discussion without being insulting then they don’t deserve the free airtime. Now ALL Christians need to stand up and stop being the silent majority and the national punching bag for these hate groups.
Report Post »Jim in Houston
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:09amWe have a president and his party who are anti-Christian and are encouraging this behavior. I don’t know what happened to the concept of majority rule, but it now appears we operate under the tiny minority rule the vast majority. I feel like I have awakened in a parallel universe.
Report Post »blackatheistprincess
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 12:34amteddyc73
Google how many Atheist hate groups there are.
Then google how many Christian hate groups there are.
Don’t worry…I’ll wait.
Report Post »lisa2994
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:54amWe have the right to stand up for ourselves just the same as everyone else but most especially becayse we are Christians! Not going to say anything negative here but my faith is strong and will not waiver! Always have and will believe in GOD and JESUS and not afraid or ashamed to say it! Way to go MR Bolling!
Report Post »PeanutButterDemon
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:54amGod isn’t dead. He never existed in the first place :)
So Blazers, can you God create a rock he couldn’t lift?
Report Post »Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:59amSounds like you could drop the peanut butter…
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:01amOh, bless your little heart….
Report Post »PeanutButterDemon
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:04amTwo replies and no answers, all I need is a simple Yes or No.
;D
Report Post »ltb
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:07amNot everything is possible for God. For example, the Bible says that it is impossible for God to lie (Hebrews 6:18). As far as whether God can create a rock he can’t lift, that’s a moot point, because the only reason he would do such a thing is to prove something and he doesn’t need to prove anything to anybody (see Matthew 12:39). .
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:16amThe Earth is His footstool….thats a bretty big foot to be kicked in the butt with.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:18amdo atheists ever have an original thought?
all you can do is paste talking points…
Report Post »Al J Zira
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:26amWow, that’s original? George Carlin did that in a skit back in, I believe, 1978, in the same album as the 7 Little Dirty Words.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:30amThe more I think about that question, the more I think the answer to it is “yes.” When God was on the earth as Jesus, he had the strength of a man, but he had perfect faith. So, could God create a rock so heavy that he couldn’t lift it? Yes. When Jesus was in the wilderness for 40 days and 40 nights, he was bound to have encountered boulders that were too big for him to move. Even so, Jesus told us that if we have faith the size of a muster seed that we can move mountains (Matthew 17:20), so if he did encounter such a boulder in the wilderness that he needed moved out of his way, he could have prayed for his father in heaven to move it.
Report Post »grannyjojo
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:36amFather God, I ask that You put a hunger in the heart of peanutbutterdemon to learn more about You and to come into the family of love. I humbly seek that Your will and love of this person shine through someone to show him/her that Your never ending love, patience and forgiveness encompasses all and that he/she will be gathered under Your wing with all sins forgiven as if never existed and that their eyes will be truly opened in order to see You and understand what a true christian is all about. I humbly pray in Jesus’ Holy name, Amen “Every knee will bow and every tongue confess”
Report Post »brotherkasey
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:40amWhy would he need to? You assume that G-d would go against His own nature, which is a human trait not a trait of The Almighty.
Report Post »Jacque
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:41amHe created idiots like you so we can laugh :)
Report Post »ltb
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:55amgrannyjojo, that’s a good prayer. BTW, I meant “mustard” seed.
Report Post »Mark13
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:01amPeanutbutter, I think the better question is, “Can God smite the enemies of his children with hemmorhoids?” I pray for your benefit that God reveals his capabilities to you. Some folks just insist on learning the hard way.
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:30amltb,
In your comments, which I appreciate, I am wondering who exactly you are referring to? You are blending Jesus’ identity with his Father, back and forth and in so doing the question comes up, who is God?
The Almighty God Jehovah can do anything He wants to, or needs to, to accomplish His will.
Revelation 4:11
His Son, Jesus while on the earth was in human form, a man, so he at that time was limited although he did have fantastic abilities through the Holy Spirit that he prayed for and relied upon.
After he sacrificed his perfect body for all of us and was resurrected by God to sit at God’s right hand, he was granted to have all authority over the Christian Congregation. So, now Jesus also can do whatever he needs to do to accomplish the will of his Father and his God. – Matthew 28:18-20
The lifting of a rock or anything else is not a question of merit when the Almighty God Jehovah is involved.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:52pmBlacktooth, personally I believe God is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. I’m guessing you’re a Jehovah’s Witness, or a Mormon, and if that’s the case, you don’t believe that Jesus is eternal, but instead believe he was created. What I believe, however, is that Jesus is eternal (Jn 8:58) and that he is God incarnate (Jn 14:8-9). Based on my belief that Jesus is God, I was just trying to answer the question of whether God could create a rock so big he can’t move it. It‘s a good question and one I’ve wondered about myself.
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“’I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am!’” (Jn 8:58)
“God said to Moses, ‘I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: “I AM has sent me to you.”’” (Ex 3:14)
“Philip said, ‘Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.’ Jesus answered: ‘Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, “Show us the Father”?’” (Jn 14:8-9)
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:17pmltb,
It is good to include some more context to John 8:58 which may shed some light on what Jesus was saying to the Jew’s.
If I may, can I start with verse 54; The Jew’s asked: Who do you claim to be?” 54 Jesus answered: “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father that glorifies me, he who YOU say is YOUR God; 55 and yet YOU have not known him. But I know him. And if I said I do not know him I should be like YOU, a liar. But I do know him and am observing his word. 56 Abraham YOUR father rejoiced greatly in the prospect of seeing my day, and he saw it and rejoiced.” 57 Therefore the Jews said to him: “You are not yet fifty years old, and still you have seen Abraham?” 58 Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to YOU, Before Abraham came into existence, I have been.” 59 Therefore they picked up stones to hurl [them] at him; but Jesus hid and went out of the temple.
Does this sound like Jesus is claiming to be God the Father?
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:25pmltb,
Also, regarding John 14:8-9, if we include 14:23, it says; 23 In answer Jesus said to him: “If anyone loves me, he will observe my word, and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make our abode with him. 24 He that does not love me does not observe my words; and the word that YOU are hearing is not mine, but belongs to the Father who sent me.
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:39pmltb,
Your Bible translation says; “God said to Moses, ‘I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: “I AM has sent me to you.”’” (Ex 3:14)
Other translations often render it differently, such as Exodus 3:14 in my Bible; 14 At this God said to Moses: “I SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE.” And he added: “This is what you are to say to the sons of Israel, ‘I SHALL PROVE TO BE has sent me to YOU.’”
The term “I AM” does not convey an accurate understanding of how God was to be known. So when Jesus said “I am”, he simply meant he is, I am, just as I can say “I am”. That does not mean I am God, it just means I am.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:39pmBlacktooth wrote: Does this sound like Jesus is claiming to be God the Father?
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Yep. Jesus called himself “I AM,” which is what God called himself when he spoke to Moses on the mountain (Ex 3:14).
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“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.” (Jn 1:1-3)
“I and the Father are one.” (Jn 10:30)
“Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.” (Jn 14:11)
“’We are not stoning you for any of these,’ replied the Jews, ‘but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.’” (Jn 10:33)
Report Post »ltb
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:50pmBlacktooth, Jesus was crucified for claiming to be God (Jn 10:33).
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:04pmltb,
Please read the rest of what Jesus said from verse 33 through 39.
Report Post »The Jews did not understand what he was saying, they THOUGHT he was claiming to be God the Father when he was not. So they wanted to stone Jesus because they did not take the time to understand his message. What he was saying is he and his Father were together in purpose and in agreement, they were “one”, just like a father and a son can be one, in purpose.
ltb
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:33pmBlacktooth, I don’t feel like getting into a theological debate about the deity of Jesus and the Holy Trinity. If you don’t believe Jesus is God, then I won’t try to convince you otherwise and I would just ask that you show the same respect for my belief.
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“Keep reminding them of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.” (2 Ti 2:14)
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 2:39pmltb,
Understood!
I appreciated you courteous responses. Thank you
Report Post »Komponist-ZAH
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 8:03pmNo.
Why? Because it’s an inherent contradiction, and a violation of the Metaphysical Necessity of God’s Omnipotence.
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:31pmPEANUTBUTTERDEMON. Do you mean like the giant stone he overturned when he rose frome the dead and left his tomb? are maybe the fire and brimestone he caused to rain frome the Heavens, no I know which rocks, the ones he caused to rumble and shake when he caused the earthquake at the time of his death on the cross. BEWARE PBDEMON the words you say condemn you. Revelation 22:18, and 22:19
Report Post »Atokaite
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:54amHoo Rah for Fox.
Report Post »Semper Fi
78grover78
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:54amLove that gut on the Five, not as much as Gregg though. Anyone who’s an atheist is an insult to my beliefs, but this is America, that’s why this country is so great. No matter how ignorant their view is, that’s their view to have. They will all belief when it’s their time, to bad it’ll be too late.
Report Post »NOTAMUSHROOM
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:53amEric B. is da man!
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:53amGod bless Eric. The War on Christmas miracle!!
GOD Up!!
Report Post »mrsmileyface
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:52amThe minority does NOT dictate what the majority does. Plain and simple. If the athiests want to remove Christmas and all its traditions as a national holiday bring it up to your congresdman. Good luck with that.
Report Post »One Man Progressive Wrecking Crew
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:58amThat‘s what we’re experiencing every single day from the Gay Gestapo, the Race baiters, and the Atheists and that’s tyranny BY the minority. Until we start speaking up to these people who think they can just run over Christians all day and night, because they INCORRECTLY think we won’t fight back.
Big miscalculation and the storm is brewing indeed, and when they finally DO set us off which is nearer and nearer, they‘ll be begging for GOD’s help THEN you can bet. Foxhole prayer city.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:00am… for an athiest this creep sure has a lot of negative ‘beliefs.‘ If he doesn’t believe then why does he care? He should be immune to Christmas trees, presents, Santa Claus and Jesus. He should be able to walk on by and never see those things. Instead he wants to foist his views as being the only view upon the rest of us. That’s a dangerous thing to do.
Report Post »NeoKong
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:52amSeriously…what kind of jerk is bothered by a nativity scene….?
Report Post »ltb
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:56amSomeone who leads a very miserable life.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:02amAnd you know misery loves company, I might add as it’s a lonely place.
Report Post »IIIcorp
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:13amI don’t believe in atheists.
Report Post »VinnieCCT
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:43am@IIICORP
I like your post! There may just be truth to it. I believe that we were created in a way that our very being recognises God. In other words, I believe that atheists are just deep down afraid of God and/or ashamed and so have the need to eliminate him.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:50am“If we went to court, then we would find a plaintiff.” Translation: Nobody in that town complained, these pathetic malcontents thought they could bully a small town by sending a letter. Turns out they were wrong.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:40amI don’t see why they should get their knickers in a wad over something that has no effect on them whatsoever. They‘re from WISCONSIN and they’re fighting about a nativity scene in TEXAS??? Please….. For people who care nothing for the Lord, they sure do make a big stink over Him. We don‘t care if they don’t believe. However, they’re certainly concerned about those of us who do….
I know there are loads of atheists who really can’t be bothered by things such as Christmas decorations and nativity scenes. It’s these loony militant ones out to ruin the holidays (and everything else) for the rest of us who are giving them a bad name. Maybe they just need a warm, fuzzy hug or something….. :)
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:49amJust like the gay movement, its not about their beliefs or their way of life, its about recruiting…….
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:47amEric,
GOD BLESS AND PROTECT YOU AND YOURS. Thank you for standing up!
Way to go!!!
First Tim Tebow, now Eric Bolling. Tomorrow, the rest of us “GOD up” and stand.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:02amWhy wait ’til tomorrow? Take the bushel off your light and let it shine now and don’t back down when the devil comes knocking.
Report Post »Arktiger
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:47amWay to go Eric…..
Report Post »TX_45_ACP
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:47amThe atheists are becoming so religious all of a sudden…LOL
Report Post »justafollower
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:08amAtheism is a religion. It’s so hypocritical! Thanks Eric for standing up to that guy.
What’s makes my brains explode is that the Fox News talking heads are talking about what the standard should be. And it falsely posits that there is one solution that should apply to the whole country. Though its mentioned in the first question Eric asks, the rest of the conversation says pretty much nothing about the fact that this town and the citizens in that town have the right to do whatever they want.
But, boy how ugly does it get when there is no standard of right or wrong anymore! Read the book of Judges… it doesn’t ever go well.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:01pmAtheism can’t be a religion.
We simply say , “I have not seen sufficient evidence to support that there is a God(much less your God, which there is even less evidence for)”
I have no book that tells me stuff that science has uncovered as completely untrue and I will not even go into how immoral your book is.
That being said, I am open to new evidence. If at your “end times” Jesus were to come down from the clouds and start performing magic tricks, I will say “huh, guess I was wrong and the Christians were right.” That is YOUR proof that there is a God, and that your God is the correct one. Until then you have zero concrete proof. How ironic that when there is concrete proof, it is then deemed “too late” to accept Jesus.
I don’t understand the problem with this guy. He said he was completely fine and happy for people who put nativity scenes up at private homes and private churches. He simply thinks it‘s wrong that it’s on public property.
Christians have done a good job over the generations slowly convincing its people that we were founded on Christianity and that we should consider prayer and scripture in matters of public policy.
Report Post »Dudley Do-Right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:44pmMODERATIONISBEST
“Christians have done a good job over the generations slowly convincing its people that we were founded on Christianity and that we should consider prayer and scripture in matters of public policy.”
The result was that a religious people rose in rebellion against Great Britain in 1776, and that most American statesmen, when they began to form new governments at the state and national levels, shared the convictions of most of their constituents that religion was, to quote Alexis de Tocqueville’s observation, indispensable to the maintenance of republican institutions. The efforts of the Founders of the American nation to define the role of religious faith in public life and the degree to which it could be supported by public officials that was not inconsistent with the revolutionary imperatives of the equality and freedom of all citizens is the central question which this exhibition explores.
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/
You were saying…?
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:38pm@DUDLEY DO-RIGHT
Yeah you didn’t say anything there that countered what I said. Congrats.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:32pm“” That is YOUR proof that there is a God, and that your God is the correct one. Until then you have zero concrete proof.”
I posted this to you on another page…and you skipped out….no surprise…all you can do is post the same old atheist talking points…over and over….you atheists aren’t nearly as clever as you think you are…
rules of evidence…
Testimony of the Evangelists by Simon Greenleaf (1783-1853)
Greenleaf, one of the principle founders of the Harvard Law School, originally set out to disprove the biblical testimony concerning the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He was certain that a careful examination of the internal witness of the Gospels would dispel all the myths at the heart of Christianity. But this legal scholar came to the conclusion that the witnesses were reliable, and that the resurrection did in fact happen.
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/jesus/greenleaf.html
and greenleaf was no chump…
As Dane Professor of Law at Harvard University who, along with Justice Joseph Story, was primarily responsible for Harvard’s eminent position among law schools in the United States, Greenleaf produced a famous, three-volume work, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, which Knott, in The Dictionary of American Biography says was called “the greatest single authority on evidence in the entire literature of legal procedure.”
so yes the bible has been verified by archeology…post your proof against it, you cannot
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on January 8, 2012 at 11:52am[so yes the bible has been verified by archeology…post your proof against it, you cannot]
Report Post »A few millennia from now a Tom Clancy novel will note of the existence of New York and Los Angeles, and archeology may prove they existed, it does not prove any of the characters in his novel were ever real you buffoon.
Mandors
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:41amFFRF is Legion.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:56amNO they are not. They are bullies playing dangerous games with the law.
Report Post »jblaze
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:21pmYou must see this video of Hubble telescope showing scientific PROOF of God’s existance.
The Awesome Universe
Report Post »http://www.thetrumpetdaily.com/program/20111209
Pontiac
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:04pm[Hubble telescope showing scientific PROOF of God’s existance. ]
Report Post »Still waiting for that “scientific PROOF”. However seeing as you could not spell “existence” I guess you weren’t actually claiming god exist. Or you’re just another typical religious zealot that cannot spell and points to “nothing” to explain everything you can’t comprehend.
rush_is_right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:23pm“Or you’re just another typical religious zealot that cannot spell and points to “nothing” to explain everything you can’t comprehend.”
oh you mean like the evolutionists do….doesn’t matter that there is nothing to prove evolution in the fossil record, or the lab….it HAD to evolve…PRAISE DARWIN…
and anyone who doubts is harassed and fired like sternberg….
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 4:56pm[doesn’t matter that there is nothing to prove evolution in the fossil record, or the lab]
Report Post »It is not “proof”, it is evidence which strongly points too for any individual that can rub two brain cells together.
But you know, a story – by people that used ROCKS for toilet paper – about 2 primitive humans having enough children to survive & populate the earth (which undoubtedly involved copious amounts of incest) sounds so much better! Now if only they could explain how each region of the earth had humans with genetically different skin colors based just on those 2 humans… Even then it still sounds like evolution to me.
rush_is_right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:19pm“It is not “proof”, it is evidence which strongly points too for any individual that can rub two brain cells together.
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its rather obvious you darwiniacs haven’t evolved that second brain cell yet…ever hear of punctuated equilibrium? Gould came up with that because the fossil record doesn’t show evolution…so it had evolve too quickly to leave a fossil….because the alternative for you atheists is unthinkable.
“with genetically different skin colors based just on those 2 human”
no surprise a darwiniac would bring up skin color…why don‘t you list for me the ’lower races’ your racist god and savior darwin refers to…hmmm??
“The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilised races throughout the world.” (Darwin, Charles R. [English naturalist and founder of the modern theory of evolution], “The Life of Charles Darwin”, [1902], Senate: London, 1995, reprint, p.64
don’t worry, I know you don’t have the brain cells to answer this…
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:23pmoh an pontiac…evolution is useless to science..
In 1942, Nobel Laureate Ernst Chain wrote that his discovery of penicillin (with Howard Florey and Alexander Fleming) and the development of bacterial resistance to that antibiotic owed nothing to Darwin‘s and Alfred Russel Wallace’s evolutionary theories.
The same can be said about a variety of other 20th-century findings: the discovery of the structure of the double helix; the characterization of the ribosome; the mapping of genomes; research on medications and drug reactions; improvements in food production and sanitation; new surgeries; and other developments.
Additionally, I have queried biologists working in areas where one might have thought the Darwinian paradigm could guide research, such as the emergence of resistance to antibiotics and pesticides. Here, as elsewhere, I learned that evolutionary theory provides no guidance when it comes to choosing the experimental designs. Rather, after the breakthrough discoveries, it is brought in as a narrative gloss.
http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/23/evolution-creation-debate-biology-opinions-contributors_darwin.html
its just a racist atheist fairy tale.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:25pmnow pontiac, why don’t you go ahead and post all your proof for evolution? I can use a good laugh…
oh and while you’re at it..explain this to me…
Our work provides a new perspective on the genetic basis of adaptation. Despite decades of sustained selection in relatively small, sexually reproducing laboratory populations, selection did not lead to the fixation of newly arising unconditionally advantageous alleles. This is notable because in wild populations we expect the strength of natural selection to be less intense and the environment unlikely to remain constant for ~600 generations. Consequently, the probability of fixation in wild populations should be even lower than its likelihood in these experiments. This suggests that selection does not readily expunge genetic variation in sexual populations, a finding which in turn should motivate efforts to discover why this is seemingly the case.
This experiment was begun in 1975. After 35 years and 600 generations, accelerated by artificial selection, the net evolution (in terms of adaptation and improvement in fitness) was negligible if not nil.
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1. Burke, Dunham et al, “Genome-wide analysis of a long-term evolution experiment with Drosophila,” Nature 467, 587-590 (30 September 2010); doi:10.1038/nature09352.
oh I know if they just had more time….LOL
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:17pm[ever hear of punctuated equilibrium?]
Punctuated equilibrium is still evolutionary theory and does not disprove we were once primates. Is that the extent of your answer?
[no surprise a darwiniac would bring up skin color]
Darwiniac? Evolutionary theory may have began with Darwin, it did not make him the foremost or end all expert on it.
[…why don‘t you list for me the ’lower races’ your racist god and savior darwin refers to…hmmm??]
Darwin isn’t my “savior”. What do I care what he thought of race superiority? Should we not buy Fords simply because Henry Ford was a racist?
[don’t worry, I know you don’t have the brain cells to answer this…]
Answer what? You supported my argument then attacked me for racism when “I” implied no racial superiority based on skin color. Talk about a desperate creationist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoHr4TNPMXo
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:30pm[why don’t you go ahead and post all your proof for evolution? ]
Report Post »Proof? I said “evidence”. Can you not read? Try google, plenty of evidence can be found outside of Westboro Baptist type websites. Your last two post still do nothing to “disprove” evolution. It’s like pointing to a hole in the ground and saying “this disproves evolution”… What?
rush_is_right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:36pm“Punctuated equilibrium is still evolutionary theory and does not disprove we were once primates. Is that the extent of your answer? ”
oh I thought you had the brain cells to figure it out…sorry, my mistake…its simple…evolve too quicly to leave fossils = creation……and I‘m sure you’ve heard of the biological big bang right??? sure
“Darwiniac? Evolutionary theory may have began with Darwin, it did not make him the foremost or end all expert on it.”
uh huh he’s your high priest….the patron saint of evolution…and eugenics….
“Darwin isn’t my “savior”. What do I care what he thought of race superiority? Should we not buy Fords simply because Henry Ford was a racist? ”
of course not…the point is the theory of evolution is racist….oh but I forgot you don’t have the brain cells to add things up….sorry.
“Answer what? You supported my argument then attacked me for racism ”
you really aren’t as clever as you think you are…
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:38pm“Your last two post still do nothing to “disprove” evolution. It’s like pointing to a hole in the ground and saying “this disproves evolution”… What?”
oh nothing would disprove evolution to such an eminent ‘scientist’ such as yourself who provides youtube as a reference…wow I‘m in uh ’awe’ LOL
you obviously don’t have the brain-cells to argue the evidence…as far as proof…people like you don’t need any…..all you have is faith, in your racist, atheist fairy tale…that you call evolution.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 7:41pm“Your last two post still do nothing to “disprove” evolution.”
oh the first post wasn’t meant to disprove evolution, merely to prove evolution isn’t science, and its useless for science…i’l try to type a bit more s l o w l y so you can understand…
as far as the second one…600 generations…and no evolution…not much of anything really….but thats OK…people like you, who don’t have that many brain cells, don’t need evidence..just keep the faith….and do as you’re told…its much easier than thinking for yourself…don’t want you to get a headache or anything….
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 8:12pm[evolve too quicly to leave fossils = creation]
Yet…we do have remains prior to **** Erectus that say otherwise. We even have genetic traces of Neanderthals in certain races of humans. (no genetic superiority implied here) So are actually you keeping up on this subject or just regurgitating what you read on Ray Comforts forums? Judging by your spelling, construction of sentences, & paragraphs I’m guessing the latter.
[uh huh he’s your high priest….the patron saint of evolution…and eugenics…]
I do not worship men. See, that’s the great thing about science, it’s self correcting. Unlike religion which is self congratulatory and demands you goosestep to its doctrine.
[who provides youtube as a reference]
Report Post »Still to fast for you? Sorry I can’t find anything dumbed down enough for a creationist bigot to change his ill conceived views. I guess you can keep playing the racist card, not that it’s getting you anywhere…
rush_is_right
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 8:44pm“Yet…we do have remains prior to **** Erectus that say otherwise. We even have genetic traces of Neanderthals in certain races of humans”
no they don‘t ’say otherwise’ you assume that…actually neanderthals were stronger and had bigger brains than we did…we could mate with neanderthals…in other words…neanderthals-r-us…if you can mate with something, then you’re the same species.
“So are actually you keeping up on this subject or just regurgitating what you read on Ray Comforts forums? ”
I’m actually making you look rather stupid, you’re just too stupid to know it….mr. youtube reference…wow what site for science!!! LOL
“I do not worship men. See, that’s the great thing about science, it’s self correcting. Unlike religion which is self congratulatory and demands you goosestep to its doctrine”
oh really now??? maybe you should tell that to sternberg and crocker, among others, who went against the darwiniac orthodoxy, and lost their jobs..and were viciously smeared by the high priests of most holy darwin.
“Still to fast for you? Sorry I can’t find anything dumbed down enough for a creationist bigot to change his ill conceived views. I guess you can keep playing the racist card, not that it’s getting you anywhere”
yeah youtube is perfect for you brain-dead ddarwiniacs….oh an I’ve proved that evolution is racist…and you’re unable to refute it….or anything else I’ve said…how does it feel to be made such a fool o
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 10:38pm[neanderthals were stronger and had bigger brains than we did]
Stronger & bigger brains? Must have been evolution.
[we could mate with neanderthals…in other words…neanderthals-r-us]
No. I said, only some modern humans show the genetic markers of neanderthals.
[if you can mate with something, then you’re the same species.]
Same Genus does not equal the same Species.
[I’m actually making you look rather stupid,]
For replying to a creationist, yes.
[you’re just too stupid to know it….mr. youtube reference…wow what site for science!!! LOL]
Other than bathroom stall scribbles what science have you presented? A few decades of fruit flies is miniscule.
[tell that to sternberg and crocker,]
Fossils of extinct species in layers of earth showing incremental changes, Millions.
Fossils of gods hand, Zero.
[oh an I’ve proved that evolution is racist…and you’re unable to refute it…]
Racist – “the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.”
At no time did evolution prove any human race genetically superior over another though there are those will use it for that purpose, it is in no way indicative of the science.
However going from your posts alone I will say monkey‘s are superior to humans in that they didn’t invent god.
Oh look at me, I’m a big fat racist…
Next time you want to argue creationism just post this video
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It will save you a lot of time getting y
MrGeek
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 12:22amRush is right: “so yes the bible has been verified by archeology…post your proof against it, you cannot”
Report Post »All archeology can prove is the existence of places/things in time, it doesn’t prove concepts or beliefs. If our civilization were to be nearly wiped out and humans started over again, in two thousand years they stumble across a Tom Clancy novel, their archeologists verify that the US, Wash DC, London, Moscow, China etc were all real places and that planes, submarines, and satellites did exist … this doesn’t mean Jack Ryan was a real person or that he did any of the things detailed in the stories. The Bible itself is not proof of anything.
rush_is_right
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:08am“Stronger & bigger brains? Must have been evolution.”
actually more like devolution…mutational meltdown….
“No. I said, only some modern humans show the genetic markers of neanderthals.”
doesn’t matter what you said, its rather obvious we could mate with neanderthals…or else we wouldn’t have their DNA…
“Same Genus does not equal the same Species.”
uh yeah right….these are rather fluid terms…
“For replying to a creationist, yes.”
funny how creationists make you darwiniacs look so stupid so easily isn’t it? perhaps you’re just not as evolved as creationists…
“Other than bathroom stall scribbles what science have you presented? A few decades of fruit flies is miniscule.”
yeah that peer reviewed paper…..I didn’t know youtube was peer reviewed…LOL
“Fossils of extinct species in layers of earth showing incremental changes, Millions.”
uh no they don’t…sorry…here’s another peer-reviewed paper that calls you an ignorant liar…you can safely ignore it…you brain-dead darwiniacs don’t let any facts get in the way of your faith!!!
continued on the next post….
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:09amMajor transitions in biological evolution show the same pattern of sudden emergence of diverse forms at a new level of complexity. The relationships between major groups within an emergent new class of biological entities are hard to decipher and do not seem to fit the tree pattern that, following Darwin’s original proposal, remains the dominant description of biological evolution. The cases in point include the origin of complex RNA molecules and protein folds; major groups of viruses; archaea and bacteria, and the principal lineages within each of these prokaryotic domains; eukaryotic supergroups; and animal phyla. In each of these pivotal nexuses in life’s history, the principal “types” seem to appear rapidly and fully equipped with the signature features of the respective new level of biological organization. No intermediate “grades” or intermediate forms between different types are detectable. Usually, this pattern is attributed to cladogenesis compressed in time, combined with the inevitable erosion of the phylogenetic signal.
http://www.biology-direct.com/content/2/1/21#IDA2DWZO
I know those are a lot of big words for you pontiac….maybe youtube will be able to explain it to you!!
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:12am“Racist – “the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.”
At no time did evolution prove any human race genetically superior over another though there are those will use it for that purpose, it is in no way indicative of the science”
really now? so isolated groups don’t evolve differently?? hmmmm?? isn’t that what your precious theory says?? as watson put it….
Watson is credited with discovering the double helix along with Maurice Wilkins and Francis Crick in 1962.
In the newspaper interview, he said there was no reason to think that races which had grown up in separate geographical locations should have evolved identically. He went on to say that although he hoped everyone was equal, “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true”.
pure evolutionary racism…its implicit in the theory itself….I would say get a clue, but you’re not evolved enough…
Even Gould admitted the truth, why can’t you?
“Biological arguments for racism may have been common before 1859, but they increased by orders of magnitude following the acceptance of evolutionary theory.” Stephen Jay Gould,
1.Stephen Jay Gould, Ontogeny and Phylogeny (Cambridge, Mass: Harvard University Press, 1977), p. 127.
“Next time you want to argue creationism just post this video”
LOL yeah thats the level of darwiniac ‘science’ a just-so story…thanks for laughs loser.
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:14am“this doesn’t mean Jack Ryan was a real person or that he did any of the things detailed in the stories. The Bible itself is not proof of anything.”
wow stunning ignorance…let me guess you’re an atheist…
yeah just because archeology has been unable to disprove anything the bible says…and instead supports the bible even in the small details…it means nothing…sure…keep telling yourself that…and keep telling yourself you’re intelligent….but saying it over and over and over doesn’t make it so…
Museum’s tablet lends new weight to Biblical truthDalya Alberge, Arts Correspondent
The British Museum yesterday hailed a discovery within a modest clay tablet in its collection as a breakthrough for biblical archaeology – dramatic proof of the accuracy of the Old Testament.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2056362.ece
Report Post »blackatheistprincess
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 12:33am//teddyc73
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 9:54am
Great job Eric! If these people cant have a discussion without being insulting then they don’t deserve the free airtime. Now ALL Christians need to stand up and stop being the silent majority and the national punching bag for these hate groups.//
Google how many Atheist hate groups there are….
Then Google how many Christian Hate Groups there are.
Don’t worry. I’ll wait. :)
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 5:39pm[actually more like devolution…mutational meltdown….]
Basically reinforcing my argument while still denying it. That’s a new one…
I’m done reading your bilge. You‘re a loon and I’m tired of dealing with your lunacy. You really are the typical creationist nut job portrayed in that 2nd video. If this was any other century you would undoubtedly be burning or stoning people for heresy.
Oh and here is your racist bible being quoted by a fellow christain
http://tinyurl.com/5uxyfsx
I seriously do not know WTF is so important about being “materialized” and to be the descendants of adam and eve and the product of the rampant incestual relations that followed. The torah was written by the L Ron Hubbard‘s of their day and preached by David Koresh’s their time and should be treated as such. It may give you moral / physiological insight based on a history of human interactions but it certainly tells us nothing more where humans came from or where they are going.
“Geology shows that fossils are of different ages. Paleontology shows a fossil sequence, the list of species represented changes through time. Taxonomy shows biological relationships among species. Evolution is the explanation that threads it all together. Creationism is the practice of squeeezing one’s eyes shut and wailing “does not!!!”
Report Post »fidelcashflo44
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:27pmIs this how you sleep at night? You vindictive, pathetic trash? Wishing, hoping, praying for the infinite torture of those who confront you with your own illogical beliefs?
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