Eric Cantor ‘Increasingly Concerned’ About Occupy ‘Mobs’, Jay Carney Blasts ‘Hypocrisy’
- Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:40pm by
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House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) decried the “growing mobs” of the “Occupy Wall Street” movement, and took a swipe at his fellow political leaders who have praised the demonstrations.
“If you read the newspapers today, I, for one, am increasingly concerned about the growing mobs occupying Wall Street and the other cities across the country,” Cantor said. “And believe it or not, some in this town have actually condoned the pitting of Americans against Americans. But you sent us here to fight for you and all Americans.”
Cantor’s remarks at the conservative Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C. Friday came one day after House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi praised the protesters and said, “God bless them.” President Barack Obama also commended them and said they were expressing the frustrations of the American people.
According to Reuters, Cantor’s remarks did not elicit a major reaction from the audience.
In response to Cantor’s remarks, White House press secretary Jay Carney said he “sense[d] a little hypocrisy unbound“ and called the ”Occupy“ protests ”an expression of democracy…totally consistent with the American democratic tradition.”
“I don’t understand why, you know, one man’s mob is another man’s democracy,” Carney said.
Carney pointed that Cantor praised then-new Tea Party protests at the same conference two years ago.
During his 2009 speech, Cantor praised Tea Party activists for “fighting on the fighting lines of what we know is a battle for our democracy.”
Watch Cantor’s remarks below, via CBS:





















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Comments (210)
TRILO
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:25pmJust like one man‘s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. These OWS nuts are nothing more than socialists/communists funded by the unions and Soros. There are no comparisons that one can make in relation to the Tea Party gatherings and goals for our country. Limited Government and free markets vs Unlimited Government and communism. The Democrats are showing their true colors by supporting them.
Report Post »smokeyridgerunner
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:46pmI want them to know if there is trouble their will be blood in the streets. I will protect my country and my family with my life what is left of it.
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:47pmJay Carney said he “sense[d] a little hypocrisy unbound“ and called the ”Occupy“ protests ”an expression of democracy…totally consistent with the American democratic tradition.”
These losers are self-avowed ANARCHISTS. Oh yes, they are sooo totally consistant with Obama’s democratic tradition.
Report Post »Steverino
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:51pmOne simple query I would have for Carney, if I were Cantor:
Report Post »How many arrests have occurred in the past 2 YEARS at Tea Party gatherings? How many arrests have occurred in the PAST 2 WEEKS with this MOB?
Read Ann Coulter’s “Demonic”. The difference is as plain as the nose on your face.
Steve
chazman
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 9:00pm… whatever happens, negative or positive, I will attribute to OBAMY. I will personally hold that turd responsible for ANY insurrection that takes place in AMERICA. We have a communist community organizer TURD in our WhiteHouse, and he is the enemy of the American people! If you read this post, TURD OBAMY, know that you are sitting on a razor’s edge … stay right where you are until we vote you out …
Report Post »crackerone
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 9:43pmOnly a matter of time, before this turns ugly. May I suggest the female journalists not wear short skirts, so as not to excite the crowds…..for your own safety.
BO, Carney, Pelosi and those scabs at MSNBC don’t have a clue what they are encouraging. These are the clowns you see after a Superbowl game, a Stanley Cup or a G7 meeting and the pot will boil!!
Good luck! Hope no innocent people are harmed.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 9:58pm“I don’t understand why, you know, one man’s mob is another man’s democracy,” Carney said.
Earth to Carney.
Both the Tea Party & the “Occupy Wall Street” group in involved large numbers of people.
Here is the difference.
Report Post »-The Tea Party people did not get arrested in large #s like the “Occupy Wall Street” crowd
- The Tea party is advocating voting bad politicians out of office
- Many Elements of the “Occupy Wall Street” crowd advocate violence implicitly & explicitly
thepatriotdave
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:52pmTime to turn the tables…
JOIN US IN DC ON 11-11-11
This is a NATIONWIDE Call-to-Action!
We CALL upon every member of federal, state and local government, legislative, judicial, law enforcement and military, who have taken an oath to protect and defend the Constitutional Republic from all enemies, foreign and domestic, to act upon those oaths for the stated purpose of restoring the Constitutional Republic.
We CALL upon ALL veterans and veteran organizations in America, who still believe in their oath to protect and defend, to unite with us at once – in this Declaration to Restore the Constitutional Republic.
We CALL for ALL citizens who still desire freedom and liberty, to stand with us in peaceful protest, and carry our demands to right the wrongs against our nation in the preservation of freedom, liberty, justice and the rule of law.
Help us save our Nation. Start here… http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/forum/topics/just-this-minute-launched-a-declaration-to-restore-the-constituti
Report Post »ltb
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:56pmWhen Tea Partiers gathered peacefully in DC, they prayed and left the place cleaner than they found it, but Liberals called them “violent,” “unpatriotic,” “terrorists.” When Liberals did $7 million worth of Damage to the WI Capitol and stunk up Wall Street, fellow Liberals called them “peaceful,” “democratic,” “patriots.” It doesn’t even bother me anymore when someone like Carny accuses Conservatives of being hypocrites, because these people are delusional. Seriously, they are delusional to the point of being psychotic.
Report Post »Middle Finger
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 2:43am@Smokey: Same here patriot! Canned goods with a long shelf life, friends with arms, and cover.
Report Post »SHOWMESTATEGUY
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:05amLTB said all that needs to be said about this.
LTB hit the nail on the head.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:29amWalkabout, I guess we should all be thankful and impressed by your two lengthy posts in response to mine. Would you go reread my posts? I said, “I didn’t take a position on signing statements. I only pointed that if that makes Obama a “dictator”, the same appellation should apply to Bush.”
I guess you were provoked by the fact – didn’t you know it? – that Bush ignored laws passed by Congress that he didn’t agree with. You thought that Obama was doing something unprecedented, something that proved he’d assummed dictatorial powers. I appreciate that you actually did some research before responding the second time after your knee jerk first post.
But as I said, I didn’t take a position on signing statements.
You are over the top with your accusations: “The Congressional Democrats are in love with any leftist revolutionary in South or Central America not matter how vile.”
That kind of language, that Democrats “love any leftist revolutionary” may pass for an intelligent, objective evalution in your sphere, but to me it sounds silly. And off-topic, given we were talking about signing statements. Something I didn’t take a position on.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:39amJZS
Report Post »The only reason Congress passed them is because they love those revolutionaries & they could score political points by passing somethings that Bush couldn’t in good conscience sign.
OneNationIndivisable
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 5:54amSure I protested back in the sixties to end the Vietnam war. But these folks are calling for Marxism and ending America as we know it. Mayor Bloomberg, it’s time to get out the high pressure fire hoses and clean the sidewalks of the maggots.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 6:31amthe protesters want to live in a communist dictatorship. it has to be so because we have seen that this is what happens when mindless people have no idea what their actions will lead to.
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 9:22amWhen the MAKERS the (Tea Party) becomes violent, gets arrested, shouts racial slurs at Jewish people like the TAKERS the organized by labor unions (Occupying Space) he might have a comparison.
Until then puppet Carney is just saying .. “words”.. like dear leader saying “words” there is absolutely no correlation … no relevance … apples to oranges, etc; etc;
An organized mob mentality constructed and funded a year ago by BIG UNION does not a Tea Party make …
Report Post »time to go back to the drawing board kids..
lillymckim
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 9:57amI personally am glad this White House from Obama, Minority leader Nancy Pelosi, and now Carney have endorsed this mob..
now that the SEIU has taken off the mask and is not longer afraid to fly their organizing flag..
all hell is gonna’ break loose sooner or later and we will have all three of them right up to the top
“on record” endorsing it…
Report Post »parker10000
Posted on October 9, 2011 at 12:22pmThese mobs will eventually turn violent. I remember the sixties very well and it’s about to happen again, only these mobs appear to have Pelosi‘s and Obamas’s endorsements. Let’s all remember their words.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:20pmOccupussies is Obama’s delicacy
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:20pmI was just watching P.C.U. on fuse. Remember the Causeheads? This is them. Hilarious.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:18pmI don’t recall any Tea Party protestors being arrested, and I also recall that the areas where they protested were always left cleaner than they were when the protesters first got there.
Report Post »I also don’t recall business owners complaining, repairing restrooms, or buying locks be because of the Tea Party.
Seems to me that these Wall Street socialists are NOT comparable to the Tea Party protests, just saying.
CatB
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:24pmAlso TEA Party people are NOT PAID .. in fact we make donations to cover expenses for PERMITS and such .. do these people even have PERMITS?
TEA!
Report Post »Steverino
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:53pmBETTER-
Report Post »My thoughts exactly. My post hasn’t shown yet…
Steve
meddawg2003
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:03pmYou saved me a lot of type time, thanks.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:29pm@CatB
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:24pm
Also TEA Party people are NOT PAID .. in fact we make donations to cover expenses for PERMITS and such .. do these people even have PERMITS?
TEA!
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TEA Party web sites include lists of items to bring which include your own bottled water, snacks, and Garbage bags to clean up after yourselves. soros has food catered in to these occupants. (Hey! I’ve been getting their mail for years!) From the headline on Drudge, you sense if they’d bring garbage bags, they’d just leave them behind with the other garbage.
DatabaseSue
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 8:25amAnd I don‘t remember any Tea Partiers ’occupying’ anything – we protested, cleaned up, and went home
Report Post »Depressed_American
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:17pmMr. Carney is an idiot, so he represents our administration well. You cannot seriously compair what is going on in with these mobs, as compared to a Tea Party Rally. Tea Party People RESPECT THIS COUNTRY AND OTHER PEOPLES PROPERTY!!!!
Report Post »Depressed_American
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:34pmOf course my mispellings make me look like and idiot too (Compare)
Report Post »Dalady
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:51pmI want Doofus Gibbs back, at least he was always good for a laugh.
Report Post »NotaLemming
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:01pmDon’t worry about anything misspelled, The left is made up of morons and dunderhead-turd-buckets. They would not recognize a misspelled word even if it where their name.
Report Post »SovereignSoul
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 8:07pmIt’s not much better on this board, sad to say.
Report Post »GadsdenGurl
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:15pmLet’s all write to Pelosi and ask her where her crocodile tears are now for these violent communist hippie arrests?
Report Post »Itchee Dryback
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 9:59pmGood idea. Ask her if she isn‘t worried because she’s seen this kind of thing get out of hand in the 70′s.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 10:14pmJust so you all know some groups of liberals consider the Gadsen Flag, “DONT TREAD ON ME” flag, in the same light as the Confederate Flag.
In fact they will follow people, photograph them & their domicile. This has happened in NYC earlier this year.
“RELATED: My pal Dr. Jeff and I recently spotted the Tea Party flag flying from the upper windows of an Upper East Side megamillion dollar townhouse. Fight the power!”
http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/04/arizona-*********-flag-granted-same.html
I can;t find the story where the blogger wrote the story where he was upset at the people for flying the Gadsen flag in NYC. Maybe he scrubbed the story
Anyhow if you use any cuss words, they will get their friends & track down your ISP.
“It was also used by the Continental Marines as an early motto flag. It was the first flag ever carried into battle by the United States Marine Corps, during the American Revolution”
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsen_Flag
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:37pm@GadsdenGurl
Report Post »Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:15pm
Let’s all write to Pelosi and ask her where her crocodile tears are now for these violent communist hippie arrests?
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Oh, but now she’s talking about the offspring of her compadres of her own heyday! Why cry unless it’s with pride. Maybe if she hunts through the attic she can find them some good molotov cocktail recipes. (Bet those wouldn’t go well with TEA! )
tobywil2
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:08pmPresident Obama’s agenda is approaching completion. http://commonsense21c.com/
The economic crisis is almost upon us and the civil unrest to justify a declaration of martial law and suspension of the Constitution has started with the “OCCUPY WALL STREET” campaign.
On February 24, 2011 President Obama informed Congress that he would not enforce the laws that he disagreed with. Thus, Mr. Obama declared himself a Dictator? Is this our new form of government? A Dictator does not require the approval of Congress! Dictators don’t resign and dictators don’t allow free elections! The “OCCUPY WALL STREET” is the beginning of the final step to consolidate tyrant’s power! http://commonsense21c.com/
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:21pmActually, Bush refused to enforce a lot of laws, more than any other President in history. In fact, more than all previous Presidents combined:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/23/AR2006072300511.html
Or maybe he was a “dictator” too?
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:41pm@jzs…this is the best you can do? bush using signing statements? LOL
shows how weak and pathetic your ‘arguments’ are…but then you libs aren’t known for intelligence or indepenent thinking….Obama uses signing statements too….I‘m sure you’re VERY concerned…LOL
Charlie Savage reported in The New York Times on Sunday that Obama has issued “dozens” of signing statements that allow him to bypass specific provisions of congressional legislation the president doesn’t like. That’s angered members of Congress on both sides of the aisle, from Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) to Barney Frank (D-Mass.). The American Bar Association, meanwhile, has called the practice unconstitutional.
http://washingtonindependent.com/54383/controversy-grows-over-obama-signing-statements
can you imagine the outrage among the left-wing wackos like you if bush had ASSASSINATED an american citizen with a predator drone??
the hypocrisy among you ‘liberals’ (ie commie stooges) is laughable and pathetic.
Report Post »donaldchar
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:55pmAs my old Dad used to say, (c.1955) “What this country needs is a good dictator, a benevolent dictator.” Right, Dad. Where do you plan to find one? We have a CEO/CIC who ignores laws, a judiciary who doesn’t hesitate to legislate, and a legislative branch who’s so busy making stupid laws and too lazy to delete the thousands of bad laws on the books, we actually do need a wise, benevolent dictator to set things straight, surrounded by selfless, wise advisors. Instead we have more of a despot. And a nation of easily gulled voters. Our government schools (not “public” schools anymore; we’ve had next-to-no say in running them for decades) graduate a million new voters annually, most of whom are MSM sheep. Any correcting we do has to begin there; otherwise any good we do now will be shortly overturned by them. So, why do conservative leaders not focus on this? And why is voter fraud not a priority anywhere? I’ve repeatedly asked Rep Bachmann to address this with NO answer yet…
Report Post »Steverino
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:57pmIn JVS’ defense, (not necessarily that he needs it)
Report Post »He’s not resorting to “name calling.” A point is a point.
We should all argue on topics, not personal attributes, or lack thereof.
Steve
jzs
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:23pmThanks Steve. Joe didn‘t notice I didn’t take a position on signing statements. I only pointed that if that makes Obama a “dictator”, the same appellation should apply to Bush.
Yeah, he wracked up a lot of insults though: weak and pathetic, (un)intelligent, (un) “indepenent” thinking, left-wing wackos, hypocrisy, commie stooge, laughable and pathetic. He didn’t really make a case of any kind I can see, he just agreed with me then insulted me.
Still, I’ve had a lot more insulting remarks in a single post than that. Ho hum.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:44pm@ tobywil2
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:08pm
President Obama’s agenda is approaching completion. http://commonsense21c.com/
The economic crisis is almost upon us and the civil unrest to justify a declaration of martial law and suspension of the Constitution has started with the “OCCUPY WALL STREET” campaign.
On February 24, 2011 President Obama informed Congress that he would not enforce the laws that he disagreed with. Thus, Mr. Obama declared himself a Dictator? Is this our new form of government? A Dictator does not require the approval of Congress! Dictators don’t resign and dictators don’t allow free elections! The “OCCUPY WALL STREET” is the beginning of the final step to consolidate tyrant’s power!
Report Post »****
Not to worry, just go on facebook and ask the Egyptians and Libyans to ask him to step down?
Walkabout
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:45pmAt JZS
“The report seemed likely to fuel the controversy over signing statements, which Bush has used to challenge laws including a congressional ban on torture, a request for data on the USA Patriot Act, whistle-blower protections and the banning of U.S. troops in fighting rebels in Colombia. ”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/23/AR2006072300511.html
It seems as though Obama has been carrying on these same policies. There have been a few protests (Cindy Sheehan, Kucinich, a few more mentions of Code Pink), but the MSM media has done its’ best to give them short shrift. But by & large the Democrat Congress is quiet & pliant.
Bush was doing his best to protect us. The congressional Democrats were doing their best to make hay. I’ll repeat it is funny how Obama is using the same policies & hardly a peep from the Congeessional left,.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:57pmJZS
I hate to say it JZS but you consistently pick the side that tips the scales to the “bad” more than the U.S. does.
“and the banning of U.S. troops in fighting rebels in Colombia. ”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/23/AR2006072300511.html
Here is some bedtime reading on FARC. America is far better than FARC or Hugo Chavez’s Regime. The Congressional Democrats are in love with any leftist revolutionary in South or Central America not matter how vile. that is why they stymie any efforts by the U.S. to halt any leftist insurgencies. The congressional Democrats would rather Iran & Venezuela aid FARC & have the duly elected civilian government fall than for U.S. troops to assist a friendly country such as Columbia
1.7.3 Partial kidnapped releases and escapes during 2006 and 2007
1.7.4 2007 death of 11 hostage deputies
1.7.7 Liberation of Swedish hostage
1.7.8 December 2009 hostage killing
2 Financing
2.1 Drug trade
2.2 Kidnappings
3 Human rights concerns
3.1 Child soldiers
3.2 Extrajudicial executions
3.3 Use of gas cylinder mortars and landmines
3.4 Violence against indigenous people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FARC
Are you going to apologize for FARC?
Report Post »Are you going to apologize for Venezuela’s support of FARC?
Are you going to deny that Iran has people in Venezuela?
Is the U.S. military assisting the elected government of Columbia worse than letting FARC win?
MHP
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 12:55amJZS
the cops need to start cracking the mob’s heads, and start shooting them.
Violence is violence, and it needs to be handed back to them.
things really got violent from these creeps in New York last night. It’s time it be dished back.
Report Post »Badtime
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 2:36amDo you have any proof of this “conspiracy”, if so, please share it with the rest of us.
Or is the conspiracy so secret and insidious that there isnt even any evidence of it, YOU JUST KNOW!?
I mean really, how do you take citizens exercising their 1st amendment rights as a sign of an impending dicatorship?
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 12:07pm“Still, I’ve had a lot more insulting remarks in a single post than that. Ho hum.”
maybe but it sure bothered you enough to respond to it…
and you’re too stupid to get it, but I wiped your idiotic point out…but then you libs are only good at spewing talking points…an intelligent conversation is beyond your pay grade.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 12:09pmoh and jzs, your entire propsosition that signing statements equals not enforcing the law is just another left-wing talking point…devoid of substance…as all of your posts are.
Report Post »PilgrimStuckInBizarroWorld
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 7:19pmCheck out this site. I just found this and this is what the country needs. Obama puppet masters aren’t going to stop. Restoring the Constitution needs to be our goal now.
TRUTH
http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/forum/topics/just-this-minute-launched-a-declaration-to-restore-the-constituti
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:08pmThe real solution is, Conservative media should stop reporting these events. Make it a non-story.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:25pmI can’t wait for the snow to start blowing ;-)
TEA!
Report Post »R0bespierre
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:11amIgnoring the people will not stop the growing resistance against you…
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 6:46pmHA HA @robes – you dolt – you don’t even know who we are ! You just heard someone on moveon.org tell you to attack us – or was it huffnpuff?
Anyway, you claim to be protesting big business, and yet you waste your time attaking US? We are just regular people who work jobs. NO giant corporations on here. LOL “what a maroon”
Oh, you can run, but you can’t hide:
@r0bespierre
Looks like we have a GENUINE 24 year old communist/socialist amongst us!
She is from france, and she likes: amy macdonald, daniel balavoine, rainbow, and etienne daho? You listen to red army choir, buddy holly, creedence clearwater revival, ennio morricone, hymnes nationaux (garde republicane), iggy & the stooges, jacques brel, jacques dutronc
I’ll just call you, “dictateur sanguinaire” if you don’t mind, maxi!
Oh, and just remember – Your hero? He was arrested and executed in 1794!
Just fyi: trolls don’t fare well around here.
Have a nice revolution, COMMIE !
Report Post »kalli
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:08pmI‘d pay big money to slap this slimey little dimwit’s face 50 times! What an ignorant goon!
Report Post »Talmid of Yeshua
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:05pmAll of that talk about the Democrat’s “democracy” is making me vomit. We don’t live in a democracy, but a constitutional republic… something our politicians, and the state-sponsored terrorists known as public teachers want us to forget.
Cain / Paul Tea! 2012
Report Post »godhatesacoward
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:26pmYep. BTW, nice ticket!
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 10:01pmDemocracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the decision.
Sorry Cain/Santorum 2012 put Paul in charge of the treasury. Cain needs a running mate with a good foreign policy stance, since that is where he lacks experience. Just saying. (:
Report Post »MAProg
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:33pmI keep hearing this “we don’t live in a democracy, we live in a republic” talking point. If you studied any political philosophy, you’d know that a republic IS a form of democracy. They aren’t mutually exclusive as you folks keep framing them to be. We live in a democracy. The specific FORM of democracy we live in is a constitutional republic.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 1:00amMaprog
The founders didn’t want a direct democracy. they feared it would lead to mob rule. the form of democracy they chose was a representative democracy (A republic).
If you keep ignoring the difference between a DIRECT democracy & a REPRESENTATIVE democracy by calling them talking points, I wonder what your purpose at this site is?
Is it to use sophistry to gradually convert the people on this or at least to doubt in their mind? Your tactics a remarkably similar to an antagonist in the Lord of the Rings “ trilogy or to ”old Adam”
Report Post »R0bespierre
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:15amThis “Republic” of which you speak – in reality a representative democracy – is nothing more than a way for the political elite to become corrupt with corporate dollars and ignore any of your real concerns. You loathe your so-called representatives as well, don’t you Tea Party? The institutions of power must be broken down and cracked open to participation by all working people.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:49amR0bespierre
Lenin used the masses. Once he hijacked the 1917 revolution over the next 5 years he subjugated the same masses. So your symbol of the old Soviet Union is funny.
At the top you has the Politbureau & central committee with their dachas in the countryside. In the middle you has the aparacthicks. And then your had the bulk of the people who had to queue for everything. So in the end you had a socio-economic pyramid. It was that way in Russia, China, North Korea & Eastern Europe.
Please not that the Bolsheviks fought & defeated the anarchists in the Soviet Union. Just one big happy family. You know the anarchists with the black flags/banners.
Linen killed few millions (about 5) of kulaks, who were not nobility & not bankers. Stalin carried on & killed millions of Ukranians (~7). They starved while he exported wheat to obtain CAPITOL. Stalin killed 20 to 30 million in his purges.
So how is your socialist/communist system going to work?
Report Post »R0bespierre
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 5:31pmNo kidding, Walkabout – the state capitalist Bolsheviks were only a marginal improvement over the tsarist dictatorship. My “socialist/communist system” works by applying the concept of political democracy to economics. We will achieve democratic control of the means of production by putting the control of the firms and factories into the hands of the workers themselves – not in the hands of capitalists or government bureaucrats. Why do you think the Left is organizing into these occupations, and not rallying to re-elect Obama? We’re no more interested in state control of the economy than you are, comrade.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 6:49pmWhat a fool. Your ignorance is showing, r0bes…
The United States is a Constitutional REPUBLIC. I can only imagine who convinced you it is a “representative democracy” LOL That’s rich! LOL Even obama will tell you we are a republic! Just because “republic” and “republican” start with the same 8 letters does not make them synonymous!
“What a maroon” – B. Bunny
As for you, you COMMIE – You can run, but you can’t hide:
@r0bespierre
Looks like we have a GENUINE 24 year old communist/socialist amongst us!
She is from france, and she likes: amy macdonald, daniel balavoine, rainbow, and etienne daho? You listen to red army choir, buddy holly, creedence clearwater revival, ennio morricone, hymnes nationaux (garde republicane), iggy & the stooges, jacques brel, jacques dutronc
I’ll just call you, “dictateur sanguinaire” if you don’t mind, maxi!
Oh, and just remember – Your hero? He was arrested and executed in 1794!
Have a nice revolution, COMMIE !
Report Post »R0bespierre
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 7:45pm@TOMFERRARI
You’re arguing nonsensical semantics. A “republic” (at least the definition of the word you’re using) is literally a representative democracy. Everyone votes, democratically, for a handful of individuals to represent them. The difference between the words “democracy” and “republic” depend only on how you’re define them. Otherwise, it’s meaningless.
Also, I‘m unsure why you think I’m a 24-year-old French girl, but I’m amused by it. Where the hell did you learn how to do research?
Oh, right – Glenn Beck. That explain a lot, actually.
Report Post »sensibleadult
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:04pmThe time for talking is over. I’m ready to fight. Where do I sign up?
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 1:12am@sensibleadult
Report Post »Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:04pm
The time for talking is over. I’m ready to fight. Where do I sign up
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The Patriot Dave gave you a link, in case you can’t find it, I’ll repeat it for you! Make sure you’re not a “loose cannon” Patriots need to follow the plan.
http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/forum/topics/just-this-minute-launched-a-declaration-to-restore-the-constitution
TEAPilot
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:03pmThere is a BIG difference Carney. Tea Party was peaceful call for limited government, Occupy is a call for a Communist OVERTHROW of the Government!
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 9:46pmexactly it is 2 entirely different movements. I am so glad we live in the country not in the city to have to deal with this nonsense every day. I feel for those just trying to get to work these protestors are in the way!
Report Post »MAProg
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:37pmThe teaparty is for limited government, the protesters are for REGULATED capitolism. Maybe there are some anarchists in there, but the general message is to hold Wall Street accountable. You guys want to limit an out-of-control government, we want to limit an out-of-control cronie capitalistic system.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:58pm@HorseCrazy
Report Post »Posted on October 7, 2011 at 9:46pm
exactly it is 2 entirely different movements. I am so glad we live in the country not in the city to have to deal with this nonsense every day. I feel for those just trying to get to work these protestors are in the way!
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The pictures of these occupants remind me of the scenes from “Walker Texas Ranger” when he’d go down among the homeless and bag ladies etc. in Dallas. The difference was that most of them were old, alcoholics or veterans according to the story lines. Those who’d made major mistakes living there lives, and he’d always find at least one to take back, help them clean up and get a place to live and a job. THIS IS THE STORYLINE IN REVERSE….these are young, out to make their mistakes (and embracing the chance) and giving up warm places to live and the possibility for finding jobs by destroying the businesses whe create them.
Walkabout
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 1:29amMAProg
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:37pm
“The teaparty is for limited government, the protesters are for REGULATED capitolism. Maybe there are some anarchists in there, but the general message is to hold Wall Street accountable. You guys want to limit an out-of-control government, we want to limit an out-of-control cronie capitalistic system.”
This is the only thing that you have said that is truthful & that we could discuss. Now we could discuss specifics like reinstating “the uptick rule”, whether investment banks & other banks should have had the wall of separation removed, or capital requirement & leverage ratio permissible.
Report Post »Some of these have been discussed by Jerry Doyle & Mike Savage. I can’t recall if Glenn has, but I remember him being ahead of the curve about the coming financial crisis.
Bro Geo Too
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:02pmOne has to have a screw loose to think the street dweebs, both youth and adult, are anything but self-centered, egotistical, narcissistic, democratic sycophants. They demand their 15 minutes of fame, these spoiled brats who fancy themselves caring people.
As toddlers they were extremely difficult to potty train and they loved beating their highchair trays with their silver spoons. A sad, pathetic lot.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:02pmI’m going to enjoy watching the aptly named Carney fumble all over himself when these “occupiers”- now infiltrated by the unions- become violent and disruptive…and they will, the left just can’t help itself.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:00pmIts about time and past time for the conservatives of the Congress to start getting concerned. We are on the edge of something massive coming shortly.
Report Post »bdwatcher
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 9:59pmI know, both of us have been saying that for such a long time. It is getting scarey.
Report Post »R0bespierre
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:17amComrade, you’ve no idea.
Report Post »angry nerd
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:59pmEveryone settle down, they will get bored as soon as the next cool synthetic drug comes out or a new high end coffee shop opens up with a bongo player. If the big O thinks this is working in his favor, wow!
Report Post »Amazing how far someone will go to take the heat off.
At least one nice thing, they are all together in one spot, now where is that bird flu when you need it.
godhatesacoward
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:24pmYou got that right, NERD!
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:58pmThere is a HUGE difference between the Tea Party and this new Feces Party.
Report Post »I will take great pleasure in watching Ozero leave the White House…and maybe even a little more when his twit carney is booted in advance.
R0bespierre
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 4:19amAs if getting rid of Obama and replacing him with some conservative-Republican would do anything other than catalyze our supporters into further action. Don‘t you understand what’s going on? We’ve realized change comes from below, not above.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:57pmFreedom of Speech, get a permit. Occupation without a permit violates law, violation of law comes consequences. Enforce the law with force.
Report Post »MAProg
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:39pmSo you’re in favor of permits then? I thought you guys were in favor of limited government, but you seem perfectly fine invoking the government to limit the free speech of others.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 12:32amMAProg
Permits can be onerous. They have been used to squelch dissent.
Maybe they are also used so that commerce can keep going & the majority is not held hostage by the minority. It would be very easy for the minority to bring traffic to a stand still (think of the extra carbon emissions & cost)
What if a minority blocked bridges or major thorough fares every day. Many people would not have the opportunity to FREELY conduct businesses for restaurants, hot dog vendors & everyone else.
How about emergency vehicles, ambulance or fire trucks, going to where they needed? Are they going to go by the shortest route or by the route that protesters allow them.
BTW I know of a famous hotdog stand that became regional restaurant chain. So go ahead sneer.
Report Post »VermontPatriot
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:57pmYou know, Beck had to get permits, security, etc. to hold the 9/28 event.
The parasites just pour into the streets, kinda like fleas and rats.
There is no comparison whatsoever between the Tea parties and
this riff raff!
TEA parties want America to be strong, the parasites want to dismantle
our bastion of freedom and liberty.
Carney is a chode!
Report Post »raspberrytea
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:47pmWhere’s the EPA when you need them? The fleabaggers are
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bilorites
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:53pmF@&k ******* carney
Report Post »marine249
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:51pmone is a mob
Report Post »thekuligs
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:50pmSure, you could call it democracy now. A minority of Americans claiming that the whole country must bend to their will, because they are deluded and self centered enough to believe they speak for everyone. But just you wait, some of us have read history–even recent history, and we know where this is going. It won’t be democracy then, it will be riots and civil war.
Report Post »MAProg
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:42pm“A minority of Americans claiming that the whole country must bend to their will, because they are deluded and self centered enough to believe they speak for everyone.” You must mean the Tea Party, right?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 12:38amSo the left derides the numbers in tea party rallies, but inflate their own numbers.
The left dismiss the tea party as old white people.
The tea party people have to hold onto jobs, they can’t camp out like the unemployed “artists”, the paid protests, anarchist ( that show up to every leftist rally) & others.
Nancy Pelosi call the Tea Party astroturf, when other Democrat politicians aren’t calling the teabaggers.. Much of the protest now is really astroturf.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on October 8, 2011 at 2:04am@MAProg
Report Post »Posted on October 7, 2011 at 11:42pm
“A minority of Americans claiming that the whole country must bend to their will, because they are deluded and self centered enough to believe they speak for everyone.” You must mean the Tea Party, right?
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Wonder why ALL the polls showed a Majority of the respondents identified more closely with TEA Party then democrats or republicans in Nov 2010. COME TO THINK IT THE VOTING BOOTHS SHOWED THAT TOO!!!
Cajun Tea
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:49pmHypocrits cry hypocrisy! What a joke.
Report Post »Obama>Jesus
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:49pmHypocrisy seems to be a staple in the Republican Party. If you protest the government, it’s perfectly legit, but if anyone so much as says something you don’t agree with, they’re instantly the enemy and wrong about everything.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:55pmMake sure you heathens pick up your trash when you’re finished protesting… whatever it is that you’re protesting.
Report Post »Cajun Tea
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:57pm@ obama < JESUS….Are you a moron in your day job too?
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:42pmwhat hypocrisy? your ‘protestors’ are paid union thugs and wackos…astro turf all the way…Lenin would call them, and you, useful idiots.
Report Post »think1st
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 10:47pm“Obama>Jesus”…. Your name tells us all we need to know about you. I’m sorry you turned out the way you did, and I’ll bet you are too. My condolences for your pathetic life.
Report Post »helluvagoodgod
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:48pmDear God, Please give me five minutes with some of these freaks. Amen
Report Post »Nlitend1
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:54pmHere’s an interesting article about ows:
Report Post »http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-lessig/occupywallst-v2-what-cros_b_1000227.html
rather than diffusing the protest, this author suggests that it could be used to ‘kick the bums out’ and get rid of corruption in congress…
If I understand correctly, this is a common sentiment among tea partiers…although the 2 sides may disagree, justifiably, where the corruption stems from.
RLTW
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:42pmInlite1
Report Post »TEA=Individual liberty, day of rage= collective slavery sorry not the same.
Rajabear1
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 8:58pm@Nlitend1 You know, it’s very odd that there are several people on this site pushing that article from Huffpo. All I have to say to all the ‘Tea Party recruiters’, whether you are one of them or not, is the enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend. They do not want to expel corruption or clean up congress or prosecute the bad bankers. They want to collapse the entire system as in see ya later Constitution, Liberty, Freedom, Capitalism and any semblance of our way of life. Now, if you feel the need to join in with them, by all means, knock yourself out, but don‘t be surprised when things don’t turn out quite the way you thought it would with your new buddies. Scares me how short sighted and gullible folks are.
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