Eric Holder and IRS Administrators Due to Advise Hundreds of African-American Pastors on How to Best Participate in 2012 Election
- Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:03pm by
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Representative Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri revealed on MSNBC Tuesday that lawyers from the ACLU, IRS administrators, and even Attorney General Eric Holder will soon be speaking with hundreds of pastors in the African-American community on how they can best comport themselves throughout the 2012 election.
(Related: Obama Does Damage Control Among Christian Pastors Following Gay Marriage Endorsement)
“We will have representatives from nine denominations who actually pastor somewhere in the neighborhood of about 10 million people,” he said, “and we’re going to first of all equip them with the information they need to know about what they can say and what they cannot say in the church that would violate their 501c3 status with the IRS.” [Emphasis added]
While they won’t specifically tell people whom to vote for, the respected speakers will discuss “draconian” (hint) voter identification laws, and the Congressional Black Caucus expects the move will only help the Obama’s campaign.
Watch the clip, below:
Attorney General Eric Holder has been under fire almost since the first day of his term, for holding biases in such a high office. He largely ignored voter intimidation by the New Black Panthers because it “demeans [his] people,” despite the crime that was committed. And while apparently the taxpayer-funded IRS and Justice Department are fine subtly contributing to Obama’s re-election campaign, they have been known to disproportionately audit Tea Parties and other conservative gatherings.
Reports have noted that Obama alienated members of the African American community after endorsing gay marriage and overseeing an increase of the African American unemployment rate to roughly 14% (nearly 35% for teenagers). Perhaps this is damage control?
“We want to let [the pastors] know that there is a theological responsibility to participate in the political process,” Cleaver summarized.
(H/T: Washington Examiner)
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Comments (241)
PatriotInk
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:35pmAs I have said before, the IRS jackboots is Obama’s equivalent to a Republican Guard, the Brown Shirts of the Third Reich, and any other perversity one can imagine those with the fixed mental attitudes of dictators can, and will do. This, I believe is why there have been 4,000 new hires in this abominable criminal enterprise…
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:38pmThis could be a plan to tick-off blacks so much that they riot. Obama still needs more of the “bottom up” to declare martial law.
I wouldn’t put it past Holder and Obama to throw black Church members under the bus.
The ends justify the means with these two Sociacommiarxist.
lukerw
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:41pmA clear VIOLATION of the American CONSTITUTION!
We seem to need an Inspector General & Sheriff over the Federal Government!
Report Post »ww2daughter
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:54pm…right on. We are going to be in for a real fight to keep this country from those who want us dead!!!
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:55pmIt sounds like Holder will be on the fringes of violating the Hatch act. He should be watched very closely during his part of the ‘counselings.’
Report Post »DGuy
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:04pmObama will not get as much of the ‘black’ vote as he thinks… I have MANY black friends who constantly make fun of him and his policies. No doubt in my mind they will not be voting this time around as Obama HAS been a failure in their eyes…
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:09pmIRS with guns, how does that = Health Care ? How does anything make any sence, WTH ?
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:09pm@The Monk: Possible.
@PatriotInk: Probable, this is the ultimate form of intimidation across the board, with a very clear and emphatic message: tow the race line or face the consequences. Watch for the african american churches that refuse to pull the line of Obama to be scathed and dragged across the coals into the courts for all manner of ‘investigations’ and ‘accusations/charges’
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:19pmObama is Darth Vader and Holder is Head of the Storm Troopers.
Report Post »yupperdog
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:21pmi
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:32pmI think part of the plan is already going into affect…..unemployment bennies being cut early!
Look! I‘ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it. But before I do, please go and vote for the best candidate to run this country next year. If thats Dear Leader or Romney thats up to you to decide. But the fact is, Dear Leader will not step down and or will not lose this election. These people have come to far to stop now, this is coming down to revolution in the streets with the socialists, communists, marxists leading the charge. This is what I believe the average American Joe on the street does not fully understand and that is America has been taken over by zealots at the highest levels of government. Be prepared to be hit with the worst of scenarios this summer/fall. Its coming folks! This is the year of the full takeover of the American system of government.
Report Post »ambrosia
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:46pmWas this what Obama had in mind, when he hired over 1600 new IRS “administrators”
as part as one of his many job stimulus bills ?
Let’s get this straight-
Obama, Holder and fellow hoodlums don’t want voter identification
but they do want to misuse & abuse taxpayer’s money
by using government agencies to bolster their bolshevik bulwark in black churches?
No wonder the nation is falling apart-
Report Post »their too busy protecting their own azzes & re-election
to care about the Constitution & country…ALL Americans should be OUTRAGED !
MCDAVE
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 8:36pm@ chiefgeorge I’m not too sure you are right…they so far have failed to disarm this country…i believe our 2nd amendment rights still are a factor in our future..our founding fathers were smart enough to see into the future
Report Post »RamonPreston
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 8:48pmSure, McDave. You keep your handgun. Wait until they knock on your front door with what is basically a tank. Our government already has the equipment, the FEMA camps and the laws in place. Obama put us under peacetime martial law a few months ago. Doesn’t that seem a little strange that he would do it at the END of his term? Don’t sell him short. One phone call will bring our boys home as policemen.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 9:06pmA white church lost their tax excempt card in 2007 from the IRS. These black churches better watch out because Rommeny will send the new JD and the IRS after them in 2013 – best step back and not get involved.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:11pm@ McDave- nullification of the Second Amendment does not negate self defense, just makes the means illegal. What’s the old saw? “When guns are outlawed… I’ll be an outlaw”?
Report Post »@ Preston… you talk as though maybe you’d like to be one of those who comes to take them. Or you’re going to be one who gets on his knees and starts sucking… either way, you’re going to lose. Don‘t be foolish and think just because ’laws’ are passed that people are going to follow them. If that was true, there‘d be no need for ’laws’.
P C BE DAMNED
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:42pmThis shi t has got to stop. We as a God fearing and law abiding people cry out for justice. Any kind of justice. As long as it is the kind the wicked fear. I call for street justice. There are some of you who can deliver us from this evil. The spilled blood of good people cry out from the earth itself. Justice will not wait forever.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:53pmRegardless of The Constitution… the only Rights that people have are the one’s that they Faith in… and are willing to Defend… especially when a Government does not Share that Faith!
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:54pm@RAMON PRESTON you assume our sons and daughters in the military will fight against us..I know they won’t…they are more likely to turn against Obama …who they do not like or trust
Report Post »bungal3
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:50amWe all should note that the IRS has now been given the right to limit free speech. What is more important, our freedom of speech or what? I remember one Pastor in Detroit who came flat out and said, he did not care if his church lost their IRS exemption because he would tell the truth no matter what! One thing for sure is that those attending church cannot be shut up!
As far as going to church and suggesting one is a Christian, I know those that are would never vote Democrat in the first place. “My people perish for lack of knowledge”, and “murderers shall not see heaven!” We know race has nothing to do with it except being misguided by some as that Pastor aforementioned had said. We all should insist on all our freedoms.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:26amIts always about race and the black vendetta against America and Whites. Racial hatred is not only tolerated, but promoted by the racist’s Obama and Holder.
Report Post »Holder will do everything he can to get Obama re-elected. He will create perhaps millions of illegal votes for Barack. The “voters section” of the DOJ will handle the details. Stay asleep, America!
dublinthewagons
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:26amWhy does Obama seek a billion dollars inn funds to run for reelection. The taxpayers are on the hook for all his expenses, and now he is using the government agencies to intimidate voters. He already has all the dead votes and invisable voters. He thinks this is just a game, ruining peoples lives.
Report Post »He is not only the worst president in this nations history but one of the worst humans as well.
Leadthemtothelight
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:54amHuh……Isn’t Eric Holder the head of the DOJ?….Then wtf is he doing working at the expense of taxpayer dollars using the IRS to help Obamas re election? This giant misuse of taxpayer resources and agencies MUST be stopped.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:13am@ The-Monk
Sheriff Joe Arpaio for head of the US DOJ.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:27amSo where are the lefties and those “constitutional” atheists that bleat about “seperation of church and state” right now?
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:32am@ Wolf
Exactly right. Laws are nothing more than suggestions that rely on voluntary submission of the populace in order to be effective. I, like you and many, many, many, many others, understand that we don’t need a law or a paper guarantee to legitimize or carry out self-evident GOD GIVEN rights.
Fences only keep honest people out.
The difference between now and 100 years ago is that the cognitive recognition of being under siege by any person or entity has been summarily dumbed down by the public educational system and reinforced by the fraudcast media.
We, as a country of formerly free citizens should think hard about this the next time our faces are buried in our iPhones with Facebook or Twitter.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:56pm@TSUNAMI-22
I like it! And Holder in pink clothes living in a tent….
Report Post »johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 5:54amToo bad that Holder didn’t seize the opportunity to explain to the ministers why his DoJ and ATF sold high caliber weapons to the Sinoloa and Zeta drug cartels.
He could have also explained why his DoJ dropped the “guilty” verdicts of the two New Black Panthers convicted of voter intimidation of WHITE voters. Now there’s a great example of the suppression of voter rights!
Report Post »smokeyridgerunner
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 3:35pmI for myself want all IRS, DOJ personnel fired from their nice jobs and give the job to people who has been out of work for a couple of years.
Report Post »lexington_green
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:34pmaka – ginning up the black vote. if george bush’s ag had been going around telling “his people” in white protestant churches how to promote w’s reelection in 2004 what do you think people on the left would have said. i think that obie and friends sense a growing apathy amongst this voting bloc and are going right for the jugular to drag them back out to the polls. i can’t imagine the fear-mongering scare tactics that he is going to coach them to use. oh wait, i can.
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 8:43pmI don’t think he can offset the votes he lost when he attacked the Catholic Church …dumb @ss for doing that in an election year…but I’m glad he did it..His true colors are shining through..
Report Post »Kelly Henderson
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:56pmIf they had a picture of a bunch of whites doing this to Gov.Romney, they would swear it was a clan rally. We are going to get one broke off in us if we dont stand up against this.
Report Post »f2345ranky
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:34pmHow do these seniors get their Social security and Medicare. My mother is 89 years old and does not drive and she occasionally is asked to show her ID especially at the bank. Nobody can’t go a week without someone asking to show an ID. It’s all BS.
Report Post »ncwiseguy
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:32pmeric holder is nothing but the worst kind of traitor to this country and its citizens.
he deserves to burn in hell.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:06pmHe was hired by Obama, so this is what we get. No 1 up there dare challenge them.
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 8:59pmThe fish is rotten from the head down.
Report Post »smlgov
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:31pmObama is in high panic mode. After flip-flopping on gay marriage, he is terrified of losing support in the bIack, church-going community. So, he is sending out the r acist head of his Injustice Dept, along with his thugs from the IRS, to make sure “his people” see it his way, or else.
Report Post »rickc34
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:59pmCan’t be a Christian and be pro gay and pro abortion.
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:29pmAs if Obama has to court the Black vote. They will vote for him no matter what he does or says. The Blacks are keeping their eyes on the prize.
Report Post »Maxim Crux
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:29pmThis picture is frightening. This is truly a violation of separation of Church and State
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:03pmyup , right in front of our face. Wide open. Are our elected offical going 2 do anything about this , dout it.
Report Post »Kelly Henderson
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:50pmThis picture is frightening. But it is what we cant see that we need to be worried about.These people are evil and they have no plan to let go of the White House. holder should have been fired a long time ago.And obama is a big a racist as holder is for not firing him. The Justice Dept represents all Americans. Not just african Americans. Folks better stay on your toes.Protect you and yours.A little unity among the whites would go a long ways at this time.Think about it.
Report Post »Jimmielynn
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:26pmIs it just me or does it look like they are laying hands on the Messiah?
Report Post »Maxim Crux
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:49pmThe False Messiah. That was determined already when he got the Noble Peace Prize for doing nothing.
Report Post »deerfawn
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:53pmI was thinking the same thing.
Report Post »MLeo
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:05pmYes. They laid hands on Obama. At one point, a bunch of people even got together and prayed, “Hear our prayer, Obama.” I think that was at another meeting.
Report Post »RamonPreston
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 8:51pm“Noble Piece Prize?”
Report Post »rickc34
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:55pmThe Santanic cult has their messiah to. See the horns. Demon-crates
Report Post »kuhl
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:44amIn November lets all lay hands on him and cart him out the front door of the White House with our votes.
Report Post »Jimmielynn
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:26pmAll Right!!! Let’s just send Mitt and the Republicans to all of the white and Hispanic churches. Fair is fair, right?
Report Post »Annie Fields
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:25pmHow is this even REMOTELY legal?????????????????
Report Post »wzanesdad
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 8:10pmIT”S NOT LEGAL !!!!! the problem is the nations leading law enforcement officer is saying it’s ok…and the president is backing him. Who’s going to stop them?
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:14pmANNIE FIELDS, It is not . So that is why BHO delegated all of those jobs to the IRS. He could claim them in the jobs created and use them to help re-elect him.
Report Post »Mr Sanders
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:25pmHolder & the IRS working together to ‘advise’ the church on what to & not to say. Oh, this just gets better & better every hour of every day.
My cake. My CAKE! I want butter brickle ice cream with it!! A a a a and Whipped cream!! Come on! You can’t make reality TV like this – I don’t wanna miss it!!!!!
Report Post »rickroland
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:24pmOh, I am sure this doesn’t violate any election related laws, ’cause Mr. Holder is on the scene, so I am *sure* it’s all legit — NOT!
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:35pmElection Laws are violated when the Attorney General aka Eric Holder deems it so.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:23pmI hope this is open to all Religious Communities, not just Black Inner-City Churches that would be 100% Democrat.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:33pmAgree .. I think the Catholic Church has a few things to say about the Obama regime.
Report Post »SPOT_OF_TEA
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:19pmWhy is it that the left are the ones who always put people in groups based on the color of their skin yet have it portrayed that its their political opponents who are the racists…How do they continue to get away with this?
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:29pmBecause people are Stupid
Report Post »CatB
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:45pmDems are the ones wanting to keep the black community on the plantation …
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:39pmBecause White Americans have no culture, heritage or traditions on which to stand because they pulled them out from under us through revisionist history. They in turn made the multi-culture up, divided everyone into groups and said here is your history, here is yours as well and for you to. Each group being racist themselves at their cores says this is great…I’m somebody now where as before I was just considered a hardworking American citizen, I’ve got class and style now, my blood and skin color get me things whereas before, I was treated just like everyone else. Isn’t this special? Isn’t this the truth?
Report Post »Kelly Henderson
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:53pmBecause the whites wont band together and fight the take over that is going on in front of their faces.And thats the truth.
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:17pmIf Romney tried this trick @ Mormon Churches, then Holder would pull a Janet Reno and Waco David Koresh and burn down the entire Mormon Tabernacle. Not to mention tax them unto bankruptcy and beyond.
The Hypocrisy of Holder and Oblamer…. just go to African Americans for Obama dot commie, or attack watch dot commie and find out how ridiculously hypocritical the fraud that is Obama, is.
Holder and Obama, I “Hope” to God and any higher power, that we “Change” this ambiguously Marxist Duo. Or it will be too late…..
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:43pmRomney does not have to pull any tricks. The Mormon church will be 100% voting for him and they should! He represents Americanism better than any president we have seen in a very long time. As a Christian man I will cast my vote along side my Mormon brothers and sisters.
We will at the end of the day break ourselves down into groups, we don’t even have to be told too, we do it instinctively. I’ve seen it played out over and over again to know this is true. Why else did nearly 98% of blacks vote for Dear Leader in 08? Its about race identity! It has almost nothing to do with being a real American.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:16pmSo much for the separation of church and state. Federal employees are going to speak to ministers about it. Does it sound racist to anyone else that they are ONLY doing it with Black ministers and not White ones?
Report Post »Fubared
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:27amNot really. You would have a bunch of Wrights and Fairykhans blowing the tax exempt status. Yo. Holder and the IRS are there to ensure the right reverands cheer for 0 without blowing the tax status.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:16pm“We want to let [the pastors] know that there is a theological responsibility to participate in the political process,” Cleaver summarized.
Report Post »Politicians instructing “men of the cloth” on the ministers’ thological responsibilities. Sounds like something that would happen in a fascist state.
trolltrainer
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:16pmGood! At least they are recognizing their limitations under the tax code. Hopefully some conservative pastors will attend and pass on what is said to conservative churches. This might actually be a leveling of the playing field for us.
Probably not…But I can be optimistic…right?
Report Post »Wakeup Maggie
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:14pmWhat happened to separation between church and state?
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:23pmThat’s only for conservatives.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:23pmOnce the progressive’s takeover the church there is no separation, only government and the State becomes their god.
In other words the Black churches are selling their souls to the devil
Report Post »gr8t2bfree
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:23pmOnly the State prevails under socialism. Church is a tool.
Report Post »maryanne3935
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:13pmokay buckle up America here we go. I wonder if holder is going to the catholic churches to tell them what they can say. They are already trying to take th eir religious freedom away and force them to go along with the WH on birth control, sterilization and abortion. So would anyone be surprised by th is???
Report Post »NOPE. I always thought that the government, and the black caucaus would follow their own rules. But
desperate people do desperate things.
RamonPreston
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 8:54pmAnd they are only starting…
Report Post »Just in time
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:13pmI think this is what was meant to be the actual reason for the seperation of church and state. How blatent, how very wrong. Americans should be outraged at this.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:18pmWhy? I think ANY pastor should have the right to preach what he wants from the pulpit. THAT is separation of church and state as it was intended.
If you don’t like the preaching then find another church.
There should be no government strings attached to any church.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:44pmTROLLTRAINER: So why are government representatives talking directly to the churches? You can’t be that stupid so you clearly choose to remain ignorant.
Report Post »BlackCrow
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:13pmAnd you can bet big money they will have spies in “conservative” congregations.
Report Post »matt708
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:10pmthey better be talking to all pastors regardless wether they are black or white, if not than its racist and seperation of church and state be be questioned. The repubs should be screaming bloody murder about this.
Report Post »Bangstick
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:08pm“….we’re going to first of all equip them with the information they need to know about what they can say and what they cannot say in the church that would violate their 501c3 status with the IRS”
I wonder if it will go like this….”Recommend a Democrat = No audit, Recommend a Republican = AUDIT”
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:27pmYou got it……
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:23pmYup, thats the way it is.
Report Post »tksocal
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:08pmReally?
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:58pmTHIS IS NOT NOT NOT ABOUT THE IRS QUESTION–
THIS BEING DONE TO “SCHOOL” PASTORS THAT wether or not they personally, their church or their people are AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE (as most blacks are!!!), they are to SUPPORT THE PRES, “or else” NO MATTER WHAT!!!
The IRS “scam,” including bringing IRS reps with them is STRICTLY A DIVERSION. The real message is: GET OUT THE BLACK VOTE–whether on agree or disagree on anything!
THEY ARE RUNNING VERY SCARED! Most of the working blacks I know, both in a large eastern city, and through the northeast voted for Obbie because it was “the thing to do” and they thought they could “pray him through it” to what THEY believed in!
But, they’ve seen “the light” and God trumps color, and, if they are brave enough to vote (with poll workers probably “looking over their shoulders,” they will not vote for Obama this time, but will choose the United States of America over a “poser,” over communism, socialism and humanism. But they realize that it may cost them personally if they are caught!
God be with those who love You and who love their country, the U.S. of A!
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