EU Parliament Member Proposes ‘Black Box’ to Trace Citizens’ Web History
- Posted on October 20, 2011 at 3:34pm by
Liz Klimas
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European Union Member of European Parliament Tiziano Motti (Italy) thinks whatever happens on your PC would be recorded — for the sake of protecting children.
Active Politic (via Slashdot) reports that last year Motti gained majority support to expand data storage of Google searches, to protect children, and now he is proposing technology called a Logbox, which according to its website is “an enterprise ColdFusion logging library” that logs or traces applications.
'Black box' technology, similar to those that record data on airplanes, has been proposed for Internet-using devices in Europe.
According to EuropaPortalen, translated by Google, Motti proposes this “black box” type technology be installed on smartphones, PCs, e-readers, TVs — anything that can connect to the Internet:
“We politicians are often hypocrites. On the one hand, we say that pedophilia is terrible and that it must be fought. On the other hand we do not give police the necessary tools to combat it. With my suggestion stop the hypocrisy,” [Motti said.]
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“It allows the honest citizens to anonymously register their activities on the Internet in a comprehensive, secure and neutral manner that can not be abused. So, users can clearly demonstrate that they have not committed criminal acts so that the police do not waste time on the innocent in their investigations, “it sounds in the fact sheet Motti wrote.
The idea is that the system will be connected to an “early warning system” of criminal activity. Where are the details are unclear, but is essentially that at any time material with sexually abused children are detected, an alarm, go to the authorities to be able to see who uploaded it.
ActivePolitic reports MEP Lars Christian Engstrom’s (Sweden) opposition to the proposal:
If it were China, North Korea or Saudi Arabia who had proposed this, what would we say then? It’s scary in a democratic Europe to even hear a politician suggest such a thing. It is so absurd that I really hope we never have to discuss it seriously in Parliament.
EuropaPortalen includes Lund University sociologist and defender of open Internet Marcin de Kaminski’s perspective that such technology would violate Internet users privacy rights. de Kaminski says Motti may think this technology would protect children but he doesn’t understand the longer term implications.
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Comments (95)
clockwatcher
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:44pmAnother liberal a__hole idea. Once again the left wants to know your every step and guide every single aspect of our lives.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:58pmIt makes as much sense as burning down your house to get rid of the mice.
Report Post »Dahart
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 5:53pmWow! Can you say Minority Report!
Report Post »Zorro6821
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 5:56pmThat’s not news. No box needed, it is already being done, through cookies and tracking software used by Google and most search engines. If anyone assumes that you are not being tracked on the net, then time too take another pill. We don’t need no stupid box. Sounds more like a lead up to metering your internet usage. I remember when you needed to have your TV registered and License with the British Government. The British Government has always been intrusive in people lives. Not long ago commercial radio was illegal and everything was run by the BBC. Britain also had a social class system up until the late 60′s. Britain also has the most Video Surveillance cameras that all Euro nations combined. Not much freedom in Britain, never really was. Brits are leaving in droves and going to places like Australia, Canada, and South America. Britain is very depressing.
Report Post »JMorcan
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 7:29pmThey should put a black box in every Fiat. Whenever one breaks down, it would be logged on the Internet for public viewing. THAT will keep our kids safe.
Report Post »grumpyt
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:02pmNot Left, Not Right, Just Wrong! This just proves that the more you try to “protect the children”, the more of our rights are taken!
Report Post »KenInIL
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 3:24amGreat idea for politicians. Wire them all up. Give them RFID chips so we can check their liasons, record what they say to who.
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 4:50amoh it’s coming here.Pretty soon everything that we purchase will have some kind of monitoring device. They will be able to track everything about us.
Report Post »PATRIOTGRUNT
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:43pmWhat is wrong with you people. How dare you oppose this idea ?. Did he just play the. “PROTECT THE CHILDREN CARD” ?. Yes he did. Damn I thought that card was exclusive property of the DEMS/LIBS/SOC/COMIE Party, Sorry, my bad he is a SOCIALIST . Besides it will be completely “ANANYMOUS ” honest . Don’t worry be happy.?
Report Post »AlmostaCowboy
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 5:43pmWell………if it’s for the good of the kids, count me in.
Report Post »thegodfather
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:35pmCan’t we just skip this step and go straight to “thought police”?
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:40pmCitizen’s web history is already being monitored – and they don’t need to install a special box to do it.
Report Post »robert
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:51pmThis geek must live somewhere in the Twilight Zone. He’s concerned about tracking people when the entire European Union is very close to economic collapse.
He could well be in the midst of widespread rioting on a larger scale than what is occurring now in just a few months…..or sooner.
That will also mean the large pockets of third world hordes inundating Europe will also rise up as they do periodically within the “no go” zones, burning thousands of cars every night. Combined with the austerity rioters it will be a scene of unprecedented chaos with cities burning everywhere.
How anyone like him can be concerned with anything outside this immediate threat reveals the extent to which these government geeks are totally out-of-touch with the real world.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 5:05pmYou see, these goons are desparate. They know that the people are coming for them with ropes and pitchforks. The politicians in this country know this as well. They are doing everything they can to track us and avoid the inevitable. But they will fail.
Report Post »ZaphodsPlanet
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:34pmThat a-hole should not be allowed to EVER…… like for the rest of his life…. be allowed to set foot in the USA. Or maybe he can just go and find himself a nice cushy job in the new Caliphate in Libya or Egypt.
What a COMMIE PIG.
Report Post »SiToNiTsOrOs1
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:34pmThis concept is not new. It is a liberal plot to further tighten their grip around the throat of FREEDOM. Progressivism has gotten out of control. The more THEY watch you, the less YOU can do about what THEY do to you. This idea would make it much easier to clamp down on those who speak the TRUTH. Hopefully, there is s shred of decency left in DC AFTER the next election. Stand up AMERICA! Vote the progressives (left or right) out and take those who surround them out with them. To all those progressives out there: You can have my PC when you pry it from my cold dead fingers….
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 5:11pmI am afraid that voting will not cure the disease that is Washington DC. There is only one way to remove the vermin that have sold us out and ruined this once great country. I think you know what I am speaking of.
Report Post »IronSights
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 5:13pmHow else are they going to know who to round up for re-education.
Report Post »commoncents5
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:29pmWhen a law maker wants to pass a mandatory bill in the name of the “children, poor,elderly or any victim” be very awake because that is the big size 10 in the door for future rights to be taken from the masses but not from the elite. Notice that the laws passed by our politicians never seem to include them. It goes back to what exactly is“IS”!!!!!
Report Post »tnturner
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:27pmHa ha ha. they can bite my *** if they bring this to the USA.
Report Post »Van Damage
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:20pm“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security”
Report Post »Benjamin Franklin quote
Tom K
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:15pmIf this Orwellian device did protect the children from pedophilia the number of liberal snots that were caught would be huge. However, the liberal courts would probably let them go. Just say No to 1984.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:14pmKeep in mind that Italy is the birthplace of Fascism.
Report Post »kapnkd
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 5:07pmExcellent point! …Did you ever notice the look of arrogance on certain photos of Obozo is EXACTLY like the look on the face of Mussolini’s photos!
There are NO coincidences in politics!
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 5:46pmBut we all know what happened to Mussolini in the end, don’t we? Hmmmm………
Report Post »FEMALL
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:14pmI know! To protect the children from Propagandizing Politicians require ankle monitors–for the Politicians.
O=Look what I did!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:11pm“give police the necessary tools”
Here’s a big red flag my fellow Americans. Whenever you hear anybody, anywhere, state the quote above, you can rest assured that liberty is about to be destroyed, spat upon and buried in an unmarked grave. No exceptions.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:50pmI agree. The pretense is stopping kiddie porn, but the end result will be intel gathering on the People.
Think that’s insane, do you? Why then, are Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, et al. hounded by the IRS while Dem Administrations are in the White House?
Everything government mandates is a potential weapon against the People… especially when it’s gathering intel.
Report Post »texasfarmer
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:10pmWhy don’t you just put a chip in our bodies and get it over.
Report Post »waking_giant
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:28pmThey dont need to chip you if you already have a mobile phone. But give them time. They will get around to it. They have already started TSA doing random searches on Tennessee highways. You will get a taste of that too.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:08pmAnd you know, Motti would probably be among the first caught.
Report Post »bigfatslob
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 3:58pmLet’s see, who really stifells freespeach, The Left or the right ????
Report Post »fcbs46
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:06pmTell it like it is BFS When the government comes (left or right) the people coward in fear. Let‘s be free it’s better to free and bitter then tom have government in oops On your ass.
Report Post »caleejr
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 3:57pmwhile the intentions may seem ‘genuine’ one must always wonder what the other hand is doing. The ‘real’ reason is always more nefarious than the one they actually tell you. At least in the last year or so – it‘s been very apparent that’s the case
Report Post »Del Scorcho
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 3:56pm“It allows the honest citizens to anonymously register their activities on the Internet in a comprehensive, secure and neutral manner that can not be abused.”
Excuse me while I throw the B***S*** flag sky high on that one.
Report Post »Talmid of Yeshua
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 3:54pmWow… 1984 anyone? How long before idiotic Democrats in this country embrace this evil idea?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:12pmOr Republicans. Remember, it was the GOP who gave us such wonders as the Patriot Act and TSA.
Report Post »kapnkd
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 5:09pm(to ghostofjefferson – below)
You’re correct but it seems the dems under Obozo are out to take it all to a much higher level!!
Report Post »fcbs46
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 3:54pmCome and get me big brother I have committed the sin of (any thing the government can think of) so take me to the rat cage.. 1984
Report Post »USACommoner
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 3:54pmSorry, Tizi, but here in the good old USSA (this is not a typo), we are still presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. We don’t gotta prove our innocence. So shut yer yap.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:13pmOh?
Had and IRS audit lately?
Had a warrantless roadside search lately?
Report Post »Alfred F. Jones
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 3:52pmThe Italian is insane and the Swede is correct. Hopefully more people agree with not bringing in the technology. But we all know if it does get past, Obama’s administration would be drooling for this black box.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 3:48pmAnother example of a good intention being taken too far, the end result being madness. Reminds me of Louisiana passing a law in the past few days that bans using cash for any second-hand purchases (ie, garage sales, salvation army, thrift shops, pawn shops). The intent was to force a record of transactions to catch thieves. The result? Outlawing the use of money.
Madness.
Report Post »Mtremblay
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 3:59pmThe really passed a law prohibiting legal tender? OMG why is this not on the front page? How about getting a receipt?
Report Post »Socapex
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:00pmThis proposal has nothing whatsoever to do with a good intention, nor pedophilia, that’s just a cover: the madness would be to believe it were.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:07pmYes they did, typical liberals, hid it away, and corrupted it in committee behind closed doors.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:08pmSocapex, you are so right
Report Post »Del Scorcho
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:21pm@MTREMBLAY
the article that LOCKED was referring to is linked below.
http://www.klfy.com/story/15717759/second-hand-dealer-law
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 3:44pmHere we go again.
Report Post »daveposh
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 3:43pmHow long before government believes that whatever happens in your home should be recorded — for the sake of protecting children. Hello 1984.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:07pmThe government already patented a device to monitor and control all electrical devices in all homes. It was supposed to be used in conjunction with cap and trade. Cap and trade is not dead.
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 3:43pm“Anonymously” my a$$!
Report Post »Socapex
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 4:07pmExactly; how can you “anonymously register” and then have any hope to “clearly demonstrate” anything? There would have to be a crystal clear non anonymous finger identifying you. There is no such thing as a computer record that cannot be “abused”.
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