Eugene Robinson Tells Rachel Maddow That Rick Santorum‘s Stillborn Baby Story Is ’Very Weird’
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During an interview with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow, Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist Eugene Robinson delivered his assessment of the way Rick Santorum and his wife mourned their stillborn child. According to Robinson, it was “very weird.”
“He’s not a little weird, he’s really weird,” Robinson said of Santorum. “And some of his positions that he has taken are just so weird that I think that some Republicans are off-put. Not everybody is not going to be down, for example, with the story of how he and his wife handled the stillborn child. It was a body that they took home to kind of sleep with it, introduce it to the rest of the family. It’s a very weird story.”
“And his positions on gay people and gay marriage are just offensive, objectionable and so totally wrong. It is, you know,” Robinson said of Santorum’s social conservatism.
“This is a guy who should never become president, in my view,” he added.
Watch the segment below via MSNBC:
Robinson’s statement comes just days after Fox contributor Alan Colmes made his own disparaging comments over the Santorums‘ handling of their son’s death.
(h/t: RCP)
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Gail
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:54pmI am only 47 years old and I remember when funeral home held the “viewing” at the families home for a week before the home. They supplied extra chairs, the guest book…..and the casket was in your living room! There is nothing wrong with what they did. I can’t imagine losing a child.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on June 7, 2012 at 4:37pmYou are right. People did take their family home and some still do. They did not “sleep” with the child. The child had a right to be home that would have been his/hers. These Santorums are wonderful people just for doing this.
Report Post »—————
How do you get to “gay support” from some family who has resepct for their own children dead or alive? These people who want to have this sodomite lifestyle will use even a dead baby to get their sorry and nasty habits promoted if they can by saying these pitiful parents and family are somehow “wierd” but that gayism is not? Those filthy and vile mindsets will rot in hell for their wickedness. God has already said so. It is an abomination and those who are working this up have a conscious that has been seared to damnation.
republic2011
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:51pmOh.. and this kook is the epitome of normal? Please. There is the pot calling the kettle black.
Report Post »valarie
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:10pmThese people are evil monsters. I hope they keep commenting on this personal story so that they fully “show their butts.”
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:18pmValerie-
Report Post »If he indeed brought the dead baby home to introduce it to the family, then he is extremely weird. That is off the scale kind of weird. But, coming from Madcow disease‘s show you can’t really take anything she says seriously.
BetterInformed
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:31pmRecently a 2 year old child was shot and killed by a stray gangland bullet. They dressed her nicely, braided her hair and placed her in a shiny white box for family and friends to view. They called it a funeral. How is this different from the Santorums private ceremony.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:33pmGee it is almost as strange as siting in a “Church” for 23years and not recognizing your pastor is an anti-Semite Marxist who supports Hamas and Hezbollah,
Report Post »mensaman62
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:36pmFrom what I heard the baby lived for about two hours, enough time to bring the baby home to family before death and it was encouraged by the neonatal care staff at the hospital. The whole family can get closure from the tragic passing of a sibling.
Report Post »ZengaPA65
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:38pmWhat do Rick Santorum and Anders Behring Breivik, the guy that killed all those kids in Norway have in common?
The Knights of Malta.
Here’s part of the oath to join:
“I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex, or condition, and that will hang, bum, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants’ heads against the wails in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same can not be done openly, I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus.”
Is this guy you want with all the powers of the NDAA law?
Report Post »Miami
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:39pmOh, yeah and its almost as strange as having your daughters sit through his sermons as well. I guess it just me, that would not take my kids to a pastor he did not know and did not agree with. Despite a 23year relationship, naming your book after one of his sermons/rants and calling him a mentor. Well till he became public…
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:50pmExactly .. most likely TWO lesbians who don’t understand real human emotions. Almost feel sorry for them .. almost.
Report Post »jcannon98188
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:50pmToo be fair, it is kind of a weird thing to do. That being said, it is a personal choice that he made, and it does not reflect at all on his capabilities as president. However, I do not agree with almost anything he says, and he is a very strange and dangerous man.
Ron Paul 2012!
Report Post »boomboom
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:52pmOooh My Gawd look at this guy.
It’s Percy Dove-tonsils!
And, don‘t you geriatrics pretend you don’t remember Percy Dove-Tonsils, either.
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:58pmSantorum who? Oh, that new flavor of the month. Boy, you should check his mixed voting record.
Iowa republican farmers have preferred government subsidies over Ron Paul’s liberty and free-market economy. Let’s see if republican trade union members will opt for Romney/Santorum’s big government, tariffs & endless wars that is basically continuation of Bush/Obama corporatism.
Report Post »jimtrees
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:03pmNot as weird as the doctor in Philly performing late term abortions. Baby comes out alive, and this guy has a nurse snap the babies neck. Eight times as far as we know. Nothing weird about that!
Report Post »nelbert
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:11pmZegapa65, you’re a kinda odd fellow, aren’t you?
Report Post »Miami
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:14pmOh, did I just compare a simple man, like Rick to the Dictator and Chief…?
I’m sorry for the racist remark….
How can any mere man compare to the Obama, he transcends mortal humans and is beyond any such comparison. Nor is he bound by earthly laws or Constitutions. He’s time traveled to Mars back in the *80′s. This is why he has no birth certificate, he’s was born on a future Martian colony, which also explains why he’s anti-Colonialist.
People, our clown in Chief is nothing more than a would be Dictator. Who was born in Hawaii to a Marxist mother, who hated the US and has been coddled ever since. By Marxist, Socialist, Muslims, Black Muslims and power thirsty Globalist. Who have funded his life, set him up in the right schools, in the right positions to give him credibility without ever having done anything. Why else would anyone keep their school records as a government secret?
A guy who never wrote an article gets named the editor/president of the Harvard News paper..? Really..?
A lawyer that does not practice law, except for aiding in a case that sues CITI bank for Acorn..? Really ..?
As a community organizer, he tries to get the Asbestos removed by the government, from buildings his friends Gorege Soros and Valerie Jarrett own and fail to do so. Which was his great claim to fame…
But once again I made the racist mistake of reading his past, well before it was erased…
Report Post »BetterInformed
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:21pmZengaPA65 They Knights of Malta ? You have too much free time. Move out of mom and dad’s basement and discover original thought.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:22pmZengaPA65
The Knights of Malta.?
Isn‘t that the same group that Hillary Clinton and many of Washington’s politicians join?
Gee you liberals will shoot your own face off to stain your counterpart…
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:23pmAt times I think Glenn Beck’s crowd are simply fake conservatives like Santorum. Both have no respect for the constitution – undeclared wars, torture, growing big government, not defending free speech, etc.
Report Post »BetterInformed
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:57pmBlue_Sky The primary purpose of the federal government is the defense of the republic. Your guy wants to dismantle the military? He believes that because we make certain foreign policy decisions that are unpopular in the middle east that they somehow have the right to kill thousands on 9-11. He wants everyone to have access to heroin. Who’s the loon? This guy can’t manage a blog. How do you expect him to manage a nation?
Report Post »jcannon98188
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:43pm@LESSINFORMED
He is not talking about dismantling the military lets do some thinking here: We currently have 900 military bases around the world. He wants to cut our military funding to 2005 levels, while closing all of our foreign military bases. That means a LOT more money going to our military for things like: pay raises, better benefits, military tech research. Hardly the actions of someone who is going to dismantle the military.
Report Post »BetterInformed
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:01pm@JCannot There are 737 US Military bases around the world. This is down from 1012 in 2007. Of those bases only 213 have more than 50 military personnel. Us Embassies with more than 25 active duty military are considered military bases. Of the 737 bases 178 are research stations. Iran is currently building a missile base in Venezuela and your guy is okay with that. Now how about those drugs, those blog comments and the truther rhetoric?
Report Post »jzs
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:16pmThanks for posting a 20 minute video of Rachel Maddow, PhD. I doubt many here have an attention span that lasts that long, especially one so filled with information, as opposed to the 20 minutes vacuous verbiage you hear on am radio or FOX.
But there was that one statement about Santorum sleeping with a dead child and then taking that dead child home so meet his children. I say, to each his own. And I say he must be religious beyond my comprehension to believe that’s a normal thing. And I’d also say that to me, that’s really very weird, and spooky even, and I wonder what sort of memories his living children will have with that.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:43pmI see the Liberals are out to get Santorum. Even with the black comment he said, but honestly, Santorum is right on that, he just didn’t have to say black people. I hate how people define you as a color. Your a human being, but Santorum is right on what he trying to mean, but he’s still a fool, still unelectable & why aren’t we focusing on Romney. He’s the front runner. Some one has to get some dirt on this man.
Report Post »db321
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:59pmTell me Rachel Maddow – who do you think a God Fearing Conservative American should vote for? You talk about Vetting Republican Candidates – I agree and we should start immediately after we vet Obama, Van Jones, OWSer’s, and rest of Obama’s evil staff.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:02pmjzs
Phd…?
Progressive house dope ?
Why is it liberals can‘t learn that no matter how long they beat their head into the wall won’t change the math? Socialism does not work, never has and never will. But then again, Liberals can‘t seem to do math much less pay their taxes but they want to raise other’s taxes? The logic of do as I say not as I do….
Your a good sheeple
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:32pm.
Report Post »Have these people no shame?
No, of course not, communism is their religion.
jb.kibs
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:10ami don’t support Santorum as president, but i do respect his family life.
Report Post »snooop1e
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:36amWhat’s all the fuss about? That wasn’t a “Baby” it was just a “mass of tissue” it was a “blob” a “non-viable fetus” that would just burden the tax system and spew out carbon emissions melting the polar ice caps and killing little polar bears. In Rachel Maddows world it would have been better if the Santorums to rip the baby to pieces inside the womb or melt it with saline solution and then suction the body parts out through a hose and throw them in the trash. That wouldn’t be weird but caring about the baby , now that is just weird…..God help us…..
Report Post »1casawizard
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:37amRachel, you hate all men, just mostly Republicans.
Report Post »cclevel
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 6:28amWell, to liberals this is weird, showing grief for a lost child. A better scenario for liberals would have been to toss their child in a dumpster? The problem is, what do you expect from people who do not respect life? To show emotion over an infant dying is unnatural to them.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 9:04ameugene can kiss my a–. this idot should be put out of our misery.
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 9:06amWhat I find interesting is both Santorum and Gingrich are so opposed to personal attacks, being they both have a very interesting and scandulous past personal life. Meanwhile, Romney never so much as had a single beer, no instead of leaving his wife or cheating on her when ill, He took off an entire year from work to care for and and the family while taking over the the duties she previously had tended too while she was recovering from MS.
Report Post »That’s right, Newt can’t stand the fact he was such a creep, he wants to pretend as if he never acted in such ways. Now he wants to pretend he is only contrasting. If he wants to go out and label Romney with all these instances that happened while he was governor, some which was closing loop holes, which everybody wants to say is raising taxes, when meanwhile, Romney was only closing up a way that the banks figured out how to label themselves as real estate company’s to escape taxes. taxes that ultimately fall on you and me. But that’s ok, people just keep letting the media dictate your decisions because you can’t stand the idea of a Mormon being president. That is probably the reason why you can’t understand why a man , who had spent 28 years of his life holding positions of service to the public, that of which he wasn’t financially compensated for, might be why he would want to run for president as well. To serve the people. This is the reason Romney has been smeared by the powers to be.
demint.disciple
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 9:55amYes HE will be vetted but, Obama ?? Nope.. BTW did ANYONE watch the whole 19 minutes of this douche ? I couldn’t / can’t take 30 sec let alone 19 min..
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 10:24amAren’t libturds killing late-term fetuses and loving those partial birth abortions more than just a little weird?
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 11:01amMIASMA . . . Well done. You’ve illustrated both the idiocy of the extreme white win collective and the cowardice of the individual conservative (that’d be you, just so you know).
In both cases it’s nice to hear that you agree that Santorum is weird. At least you got that part right. Now don’t you have a priestly gloryhole to sidle up to? He’s waiting to absalve you.
Report Post »Clive
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 11:42amoh i agree, robinson is a kook and a jerk… but lets be honest, taking a corpse home, and showing your children, is in the VERY LEAST “a little weird”. This is the sort of thing that screws up a young kids brain permanently.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on January 7, 2012 at 6:04pm@MENSAMAN62.. This is also the NEW normal for still born babies.. although they prefer the family to come to the hospital to say their farewells.. My niece even had pictures of her baby daughter.. they consider this a way now to help the family grieve and move on.. I don’t know WHERE these two have their brains .. or weather they even know what’s going on in the REAL world..
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:50pmSantorum is a loon.
Report Post »NOTYERHUCKLEBERRY
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:26pmLovely flat footed statement. Explain please.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:28pmActually a loon is a bird. R Santorum is a family man, who has never denigrated our country like the teleprompter in chief, or raped a woman like BJ Clinton, or drove a young woman into the ocean and leave her to drown like Ted Kennedy. Loon’s are pretty cool as birds go.
Report Post »BetterInformed
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:34pmModerationisbest or (IMLemming) Liberals are far from unconditional. Liberals check embryonic fluid to insure that all the designer genes are present; if they‘re not it’s down the toilet with the fetus.
Report Post »Recently a 2 year old child was shot and killed by a stray gangland bullet. They dressed her nicely, braided her hair and placed her in a shiny white box for family and friends to view. They called it a funeral. How is this different from the Santorums private ceremony. BTW the little girl was black, an innocent victim of the prevalent black on black crime. A situation that Eugene Robinson ignores.
Leopold
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:39pmso you, moderate, are the one who knows exactly what, when, why and where oh and how someone should grieve the loss of their child. Are you some kind of professional in this? I thought the left, and that is what you are, never makes judgements. And yet here you are making a judgment, and on something so personal as losing a child. But it is good that you are here on this site. You give us a good inside look into the dark soul of the left. But God loves you anyways. And may he bless you with redemption.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:47pmHe is a loon, that took to the floorof Congress and defended torture, going so far as to say that John McCain has no idea what torture is. He interferred with an ethics investigation of John Ensign by tipping Ensign off.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:48pmI’m a fiscal conservative who is for people taking responsibility for the actions and accept their consequences. I do lean more liberal when it comes to social issues. How does that make me left wing? lol
I voted against Obama and won’t vote for him in the next election.
I agree with you on most things, I’m just not in the tank for a Republican.
This guys views on homosexuality, birth control and other issues is loony. He’s also not some big fiscal conservative that he portrays to be.
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:02pmIf you are a fiscally liberal like G. Bush, but want to be viewed as “true conservative”, Santorum is your guy. He likes tariffs, department of education, foreign aid, etc. He will be a great central planner if you heard his plan how he would cater to big labor in manufacturing sector if elected.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:07pmmoderate you are on the left you just don’t want to admit to it. This has nothing to do with republicans. This is conservatism or liberalism. And Santorum’s views on homosexuality are exactly right. If you were to think a little further then to the end of your nose, you might actually understand why homosexuality is wrong. So is adultery, lying etc. I used to be for homos too, until I found out that I did so because I wanted to be accepted. Now with God in my life I do not need men’s acceptance anymore. You see, know Jesus and the truth will set you free.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:22pm@LEOPOLD
I am a fiscal conservative with liberal leaning social attitudes. I am more for the individual being responsible but I know that isn’t always the case.
My view on abortion? I wouldn‘t choose it but I’m not going to control whether other people choose or or not.
I’m for birth control, and am for the morning after pill but hope people would only use it as a last resort and not as a form of birth control.
Being accepted or people liking me is my last concern. I obviously wouldn’t be here if I wanted to be at a place where I was “liked.”
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:20pmat moderate so you would not choose abortion but its OK if someone else wants it. Why would you not abort your baby. and what ever that reason would be does that not apply to other children? Try to think a bit more perhaps you will see that abortion is not only wrong because God says so, It also hurts the population. All countries in the West have to import (immigrants) from other countries, A country cannot sustain itself if it aborts it’s children. Who will provide for the next generation? Immigrants. That changes the whole character of a country. Oh, and by the way I am an immigrant and I also had an abortion. I did not know God at that time, had I, that child would live today. If it had been illegal I would also not have had an abortion. Two children per family is not even enough to keep the family from dying out. My cousin is the last one in her family and she has no children. When she dies there will be nothing left of my Dad’s sister. That arm of the tree will die out. She also had abortions. I know you think you are a tolerant person, but you really are not. Your statements about Christians has blown your cover.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:42pmOK MOD,
So you’re fine with other people “choosing” to kill?
Report Post »TPartyXpress
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:32am@Leopold – Thank you for your comments. Nothing stands above and beyond the fray like someone who speaks from experience and knows the internal conflict between their convictions and the hell of their situation.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:05am@LEOPOLD
So what? And your statement about evolution says a lot about you(I believe you said that evolution hasn’t happened, unless i misread your statement). At least rational Christians say evolution is real, but that it was part of God’s plan. They‘re wrong but at least they don’t flat out deny evolution.
@Billy
Your God chooses to kill people everyday. But that’s right, it‘s God so it’s all good.
So loving and just
Person A. Nice all around person, helps other people, tries to be good and feels guilty about what he does and tries to correct it, but dies a nonbeliever
Person B. Raping, murdering psychopath who feels no remorse until…..his death bed and then he accepts Jesus as his personal savior
Only an illogical mind would say A should go to hell and B should go to heaven. But your God is irrational so here we are.
Anytime a religious person wears a condom during sex, or uses birth control they are killing a potential human. Therefore, are condoms and birth control wrong? I know people who say birth control is wrong, but condoms are no different, they are stopping the natural process from happening.
It’s the problem with the fringe right, they are so far outside any rational or common sense that it makes hard for rational people to take them seriously.
It’s also the problem with the fringe left, so far outside anything resembling a rational thought that it makes it hard for me to take them seriously.
Ergo, moderation
Report Post »IMAWAKENOW
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:16amSomeone must have run an add in a communist rag looking to hire idiots to comment on the blaze. Seems like there are a LOT of them lately. I wonder what it pays and who signs the checks.
Report Post »Ohio Guy
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 6:08pmYou are mistaken. I believe his nickname in High School was “Rooster”.
Report Post »Pat Alexander
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:48pmAt our local hospital, they do something similar.
They clean the baby up & dress it. And take it in for the mother & family to keep all day if they want to. Just at the hospital though. They say it helps them grieve. They did this not too long ago with a family friend. I thought it was a bit weird then. Still do…
What do I know though ? I’m not a psychiatrist…So I wouldn’t disqualify Rick for that.
I would because he followed Bush right off of the cliff on any number of issues like a lemming and then endorsed Arlen Sphincter..
Those actions show a lack of thought and good judgement that won’t make a good president. JMHO..
Report Post »half pint
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:47pmThey didn‘t ’play’ with the child-geeze people
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:59pmI’ve read that same comment over and over too. They did not play with the baby. They cuddled him, they introduced him to the other children, they held him as they slept. They did not play with him like a doll.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:00pmHe said that they did…look it up for yourself.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:02pm“ cuddling ” IS playing with the corpse…
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:24pm@Thetruth………….I cuddled my son. I kissed my son. I talked to my son.I cried over my son. I never “played” with my son.
Report Post »The Santorums cuddled their son like I did.
kellied
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:05pmYou people are weird that think the way you do. You people that think you have the right to say how you SHOULD do things, but you have never experianced this are just wrong. I am not just talking about this case. I am talking to you crazy people that would ever watch these ******** do their stupid shows. They have convinced themselves that they can judge people for everything and anything and tell you what to think. And they call Republicans names…omg crazy! Please people wake up-you have a long way to go to get back to the real world!
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:27amHow Mr. And Mrs. Santorum say goodbye to their baby, even if they knew long before it was born that it had no chance of survival, is their business. If something that may look weird from the outside helps them get over their trauma, that’s fine. However, dragging their other children into something they needed to do for their own healing, deliberately making sure that those kids would experience rather than avoid the grief of losing a sibling, that is evil. The Santorums are evil, evil people. If there is a hell, they will burn there some day.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:47pmGrieving the loss of a baby cannot be comprehended by LIBERALS. They only understand the joy of baby-killing called abortion. LIBERALS will rush out into the streets by the thousands to protest for more baby-killing.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:49pmUh, liberals actually look at their baby with unconditional love.
Christians are the ones who by their own beliefs, look at a newborn baby and view it as sick, and evil and in need of Jesus to avoid hell.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:54pmYou were misinformed about Christian theology.
““See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven” ~ JESUS
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:00pmHey Mod,
You mean….if they don’t kill them first?
The liberals, that is.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:00pm@ModerationIsBest “Uh, liberals actually look at their baby with unconditional love.”.
Is that what you libs are calling abortion now, unconditional love?
Generally speaking, we don’t think of our children as sick and in need of healing, it’s usually you clowns on the left that need heaing.
Report Post »sunnyblack
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:00pmIt sounds like some of you –including mr. “moderationisbest” — have never gone through the experience of losing a newborn child.
From the perspective of a physician, what Santorum and his wife did is not weird, creepy, or unusual. It is an aspect of the grieving process. Most people probably just aren’t aware of it, but, yes, it happens. It’s encouraged. It’s standard and normal.
It‘s strange that people think it’s so weird. It really isn‘t and it isn’t even “unconventional” behavior. It’s part of the healing process.
Report Post »MeteoricLimbo
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:08pm@MODERATIONISBEST
Report Post »Sir, is it possible then to be a Liberal Christian? You seem to speak for the masses so I thought I would ask.
BetterInformed
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:27pmModerationisbest or (IMLemming) Liberals are far from unconditional. Liberals check embryonic fluid to insure that all the designer genes are present; if they‘re not it’s down the toilet with the fetus.
Recently a 2 year old child was shot and killed by a stray gangland bullet. The dressed her nicely, braided her hair and placed her in a shiny white box for family and friends to view. The called it a funeral. How is this different from the Santorums private ceremony. BTW the little girl was black, an innocent victim of the prevalent black on black crime. A situation that Eugene Robinson ignores.
How about an article Mr. Robinson on the disadvantages of growing up in the south as the son of a single black female in the inner city. Eugene Robinson along with Cynthia Tucker, Keith Oberman and Chris Mathews have met with Obama to discuss media strategy. That is the objective Eugene Robinson.
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Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:51pmI still haven’t seen someone say that they disagree that people look at newborn babies thinking that they are wretched and need Jesus to be saved.
I saw someone repeat a verse from their God which had nothing to do with what I said.
Notice I said “newborn baby” and not fetus.
Besides, your God is the ultimate abortionists of all. Giving children to women he knows will get an abortion. Unless you admit that your God isn’t all knowing, all powerful and all loving.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:18pmmoderate. The way you talk about Christians is pretty indicative of where you stand. You are a hateful person. Please don’t call yourself a moderate, I think it insults true moderates. And we do not look at our babies as ugly or wretched in need of salvation. Any person is saved automatically until the time of maturity and a person can actually understand what salvation is all about. So you better inform yourself a bit more before you talk about thing you know nothing of, But God loves you anyways. May God bless you with salvation. Hope to see you in heaven.
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Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:19pmIt’s called “free will” Something very different from the treatment you are receiving from your president. But hang in there. Maybe God will visit you personally to prove his (or her) existence. This is likely done for folks who are insulted that they aren’t given proof personally. I was lucky. He gave intellect.
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Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:30pm@LEOPOLD
Uh, 90% of my friends are evangelical Christians, and I love them dearly. Do I disagree with them? Yes, but I still love them.
And please learn about your own book. Christians believe in original sin, which means you’re BORN guilty, and everyone is deserving of hell but is because of God’s grace that he sent Jesus to die for our sins. Therefore, kids are BORN worthy of hell, and are unsaved.
I get tired of people taking their Bible and making it fit their own beliefs. At least own up and believe what the book tells you to believe. Then again, if it was that clear cut we wouldn’t have so many denominations. Such clarity from your God.
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Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:32pm@LEOPOLD
It’s why the Catholic church talked about “Limbo” for all of those years. The place where children who died and were too young to understand the needing to be saved.
Ironically after creating a fake place, where parents believed their children died and went, the Catholic church came out and said “yeah that place doesn’t really exist.”
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:42pmHey Mod,
We noticed what you said.
And as offensive as you are, I ask only one thing.
Please keep it up. Pretty puhleeeez.
The one thing I have said on here more than any other, is that all of you unhinged lefties and atheists that keep showing the world exactly who and what you are, is the biggest gift you can give to those of us on the “Right” side.
Before this age of new media, you were allowed to fester relatively un-noticed. You were able to inflict much harm to this country while we were not watching.
But now we are watching.
And as you just asked…………WE NOTICE
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:50pmMOD,
90% huh?
You actually count your friends and catagorize them by their faith?
What is 90% of 2
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:00pmmoderate I know the Bible pretty well, my friend. Yes, we are all born sinners, but God does not hold us accountable until we have reached maturity. And that may be different from person to person. Only God knows when a person is able to understand the significance of Jesus sacrifice. So those children all go to heaven and not hell – or some holding place, whatever that means I have no idea. I have two children in heaven. Can hardly wait to see them. Now does that sound weird to you too. Perhaps YOU should read The Book you will be surprised when you find out how much God loves you, even when you hate Him. (And sorry, there is no in between you either love Him or hate Him according to The Book that you think you know something about.)Now, I am sure you have reached the age of maturity. So for you it is really important that you inform yourself. God will never force Himself on you. He gave you a free will. He also gave you a brain, However, until one knows Jesus the brain is not fully functioning. That is why people believe in something as stupid as evolution and other such nonsense. Sorry folks, that’s the truth, whether you agree with it or not does not matter one bit. In the end every knee shall bow before the Lord our God and Savior Jesus Christ.
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Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:31am@THERIGHTSOFBILLY
Uh, yeah. I have way more than two evangelical friends and that’s because I used to be an evangelical Christian. I have a good friend who is a Pastor at an evangelical church and I spent Christmas eve with them. Is it exactly 90%? No but my friends are overwhelmingly evangelical and in fact, the friends I have who aren’t evangelical Christians are the ones I rarely see.
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I have no problem with any religion that wants to practice their faith and I‘ve said that many times but i’m not for religions forcing people to conform their life around someone else’s beliefs.
If you look at what I’ve said about nativity scenes I said, ” I wouldn’t care if every single house around me had a nativity scene. I support them in doing so and actually like it. But if a nativity scene is so important to someone, why don’t they go out and put it on their own property, why do they ALSO need it on public property?”
Pretty moderate right?
My view on abortion. Personally I wouldn‘t do it but I’m not going to force someone to have a baby they don’t want. Do I wish people were more responsible in their actions so they didn’t need an abortion? Yes but I’m not going to force them.
Pretty moderate right?
My view on gay marriage. I‘m not gay but I don’t think it’s wrong, demented, a mental disorder or any other claim I‘ve heard on it and I don’t think I have the right to tell someone it’s wrong.
Pretty moderate right?
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Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:35am@LEOPOLD
Please back up your “God doesn’t hold us accountable until the age of maturity/understanding” with a Bible verse. You may be right but I’ve never heard anybody back that up with an obvious, logical, thought out Bible verse that says that original sin is only accountable once someone is able to understand.
The reason I speak with authority is because I’ve had in depth talks with my friends who all believe we are born worthy of hell and when I ask them about children dying at a young age they give me a cop out “well God is Just, so of course they’re in Heaven.” Again, no Bible verse just a “well our God can’t be evil, therefore he is Just, therefore they’re in heaven” reasoning.
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Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:48am@THERIGHTSOFBILLY
I am a fiscal conservative in that I myself am responsible with my money, and thrifty. I was against the bailouts and think that an honest and free market will do great things. Sadly the market and Washington are both corrupt and in bed with each other.
Why do you think I started coming here? Because I watched Glenn Beck when he was at CNN and Fox News and agreed with a lot of what he said. I think this place gives Beck a bad name.
I’m not some enemy of yours(I know you want me to be). I would be with you on almost every conservative issue when it comes to fiscal policy but it is the radical hatred I see on here that keeps me at a distance from liking people here. I don‘t throw the bombs on here that I do with friends because I’ve found that they‘re worthy of my respect and that they don’t go out of their way to show outright hatred and ignorance. If they did, I would then call them on it. I know that there is a possibility that some posters on here are left wingers trying to make conservatives look bad. If that’s the case, they’re doing a REALLY good job at it because this place at times comes off as a center for ignorance and hatred driven by beliefs and Bible scriptures.
I am a very open person in that as I’ve said before, I have Evangelical friends, Mormon Aunts and Uncles, friends who are Jews, gay friends, black friends and it’s rather ironic I know no other atheists personally and only one friend is an outright liberal.
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Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:53am@Billy
Don’t be surprised to see me on your side on fiscal issues and the right for you to practice your religion. Then don’t be surprised to see me on the other side when people who practice the same faith as you(assuming you do) try and force people to conform to those beliefs.
It’s the bad thing about being a moderate, and not being a shill for either side. Both sides hate you and want to wipe you out along with the opposing view point.
Report Post »sassy56
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:07amlike killing people looking for wepons of mass destruction? Now you guys cant wait to get over to Iran to take more lives.Dont act so nobile I can see threw you and so can God. there is a name for people like you…Those people know what its like to lose a loved one, does that matter to you?
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:38amFrom Luke’s Gospel: “And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when [his] disciples saw [it], they rebuked them. But Jesus called them [unto him], and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.”
(Infants are innocent as is the kingdom of God)
2 Samuel 12:22-23 And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who can tell [whether] GOD will be gracious to me, that the child may live? But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.
(David said that he would join his child again.)
Matthew’s Gospel: “And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, and said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.”
(If a child was automatically going to hell, then why is it necessary to become like a child? A child has Trust, Faith, innocence!)
Luke’s Gospel: “And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost”
(Would a soul that is dammed to hell, leap for joy at hearing the voice of the mother of Jesus?)
Matthew’s Gospel: “Blessed [are] the pure in heart: for they shall see God.”
(Who can deny that a baby is pure in heart, How has a baby sinned?)
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:55amMod,
Your problem is your credibility. We see right through the deception. You are not the first one to try the phony pragmatism in order to gain favor.
You say something you think we will like, then you lean over to the other side of your fence and spew your crap.
You keep going Sybil on us dude. One minute your acting all warm and fuzzy, the next minute you are denigrating Christianity, cursing at GOD, and calling us all idiots for believing in such a horrible GOD.
Then you turn right around again and say how all your friends are Evangelicals, and how much you love them.
You are a fraud, and anyone who has been following your posts for the last few days knows it.
You need help and guidance my friend. I hope you find it.
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Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:55am@TH30PH1LUS
Uh yeah, all I saw there was complete nonsense mixed in with your human need to make your God look loving when he isn’t. Don’t worry though, I use to try to make the same illogical arguments as you do.
And like i said, children aren’t innocent despite what you say. They have the original sin from Adam.
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Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:57am@TH30PH1LUS
A child also has ignorance and is easily manipulated by what they deem as authority figures.
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Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:21am@THERIGHTSOFBILLY
I knew you were going to come off and say I‘m disingenuous but I thought I’d let you say it before accusing you of it.
Glad to know you know me so well.
If I didn’t see such abject hatred on here, I wouldn’t need to be offensive in order to prove a point.
Why is it that I can have rational discussions with my friends about things we vehemently disagree on? Because they aren‘t ignorant and spew nonsense like it’s truth.
Again, I’ll fight for your rights to practice your religion and i”ll fight against your ability to force people to conform to those beliefs. Either way, you’ll hate me. What’s new? I“m use to the ”if you’re not completely on our side, we’ll run you over” mentality.
I actually respect you though billy. You at least are able to have a coherent conversation and make some semi valid points.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:51pm@ ModerationIsBest:
1. You state that a God (you don’t believe in) sends the souls of babies (something you don’t belive babies have) to Hell (a place you don’t believe exists).
2. You claim to have friends who ARE observant Christians, who do NOT believe that God sends babies to Hell.
3. I gave several Scripture references to support the reunion of the souls of the faithful with those of their still-born children, and also showing that God views children as innocent, and says that His Kingdom belongs to them. You fail to comprehend them, and thus disregard them.
Can you explain how YOUR position makes any sense, when (1) you have no faith in the actual veracity of this subject matter, and (2) you disregard the opinions of those (even your own friends) who actually DO have faith, and (3) you propose that the texts offered as “nonsense” to you?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:22pm@MODERATIONISBEST wrote the following:
“I actually respect you though billy. You at least are able to have a coherent conversation and make some semi valid points”
Coming from you MOD, that means a lot……….of nothing to me.
Report Post »ME
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:43pmMy wife having carried our 3rd to 8 1/2 months to be stillborn. If I ever have the privilege of meeting Eugene Robinson it will not be a privilege for this piece of #$%^&***.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:41pmIt has no heartbeat…it’s blue, it is cold and clammy…”Hey Honey, let’s take him home and play with him”. “ We can also let our other kids play with him”……P…S…Y…C…H…O!
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:50pmWhen you see death up close you won’t be so sassy as you are today.
Report Post »MeteoricLimbo
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:55pmTHE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Report Post »God Bless you Sir and I pray you never suffer the loss of a child
THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:06pm@METEOR,
Report Post »I have two younger ones, I would be distraught but sleeping with their corpses ARE NOT a normal thing…PERIOD!
Ookspay
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:13pm@ T S M Y F, Knowing that there are cold hearted people in the world like you, is truly a scary thought… Seeing your chosen photo, explains everything.
Report Post »MeteoricLimbo
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:18pmWell, He told the truth….
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:23pmIf I lost my child, you can be sure I would not bring the corpse home and cuddle it. I have seen plenty of dead people of all ages and I would in no way want one in my house, much less in my bed. Part of the healing process my @$%.
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Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:30pm@Hidden_Lion
Report Post »The operative word in your statement seems to be if. I myself have experienced the loss of a child and I pray you never do have to experience it, but until you do, trust me my friend you have no clue. God bless you and your children and I hope the New Year treats you well.
THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:48pm@ theo,
Report Post »I have seen death up close…Kid or not, I’m not “ grieving ” with a corpse..period!
Leopold
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:43pmhey truth (not), what is it with you and the word corpse. You are really weird.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:40pmI do not think what Rick Santorum and his wife did after their son died was wierd at all, just different.
My three day old son died in 1976 and I wanted to hold him so I did. Back in those days that was considered weird but it was my decision. I had never gotten to hold him before he died.
How dare people judge this couples actions, how they responded to the death of their child. Losing a child is the hardest thing a person can go through and until you experience it you should just thank God for your healthy children.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:42pmHolding him for a few minutes is different than sleeping with a corpse.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:02pmTHETRUTH etc…………..I sincerely hope you never know what the Santorums and I know.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:25pmso you, the truth shall make you free, are the one who knows exactly what, when, why and where oh and how someone should grieve the loss of their child. Are you some kind of professional in this? I thought the left, and that is what you are, never makes judgements. And yet here you are making a judgment, and on something so personal as losing a child. But it is good that you are here on this site. You give us a good inside look into your ugly soul. But God loves you anyways.
Report Post »commonsensesue
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:04pmAs far as anything I’ve read, Santorum didn’t say they slept with the baby….Robinson said they did. That does NOT make it so.
Report Post »vinnymac46
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:39pmMany cultures in the world bring their “loved one” home for viewing before burial, they probably think we Americans are weird
Report Post »georgiavietvet
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:39pmthe dems are already going after santorm and as evidenced by this story, they dont care how hurtful they are. smear smear smear. thats all the dems can do because they cant argue on the merits of their positions……………………….
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:37pmCan I keep my dead baby in the freezer? Because I’m “ grieving”? Can I take him out once a week to “grieve”? Face it! This is psychotic.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:51pmThe only people putting dead babies in freezers are you LIBERAL baby-killers. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2080394/Abortion-doctors-charged-murder-late-term-aborted-35-fetuses-stashed-freezer.html
Report Post »USAF2003
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:53pmWho the p!ss is Robertson or you to make judgements about how his family mourns over their dead baby? I thought Libs were supposed to be the tolerant ones? And his position on queers is dead on, along with MOST Americans. In fact, most *** jokes I’ve heard have been from Libs.
Report Post »broper
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:58pmDiagnosing someone as psychotic normally requires some level of interaction between a professional and a patient. It must be nice to be able to make such an absolute statement of fact without ever having met the man. No where did I read that the Santorums kept their dead baby in a freezer and took him out from time-to-time. Essentially nothing in your comment has any truth to it. You may not appreciate the Santorum family’s need to allow their surviving children to better cope with the loss of a sibling, but remaining in a hospital room for a time with a family member who has died, or viewing a deceased person in a funeral home, are examples of the same need for closure. You are clearly a superior human who has the better answers to coping with the loss of a child.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:59pmI’m not a liberal and am antiabortion period! The point is this is psycotic…NORMAL parents don’t play with corpses of their kids!!!!
Report Post »TPartyXpress
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:47am@ AGooballTakesAPea – Just go away and take your liberal vomit with you.
Report Post »HumbleMan
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:36pmAnd so facing the matter directly is “bad”? What do you want … for him to get involved?
Is it me or a Ms. Maddow and her “ethical face-plant” language somehow serious?
Wow … is this what liberal state-media sounds like all the time? Hey Rachel, did you “Vet” BHO? Did you?
How about that little covered story about Bill Ayers? How about the cocaine-use?
Report Post »MBA
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:35pmeugene whatshisname and rachel ***** are weird. People grieve in whatever way gets them through trauma, who are these turds to judge what helps someone through a tragedy?
Report Post »NIPPOHIPS
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:29pmIt is weird. Santorum is a psycho.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:38pmNo, the Tin Foil Hat award belongs to Dr. Paul.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:40pmPaulbot are voting for what looks like a corpse…..or soon to be corpse.
Report Post »birdsaresinging
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:51pmWhat would you call slaughtering innocent
Report Post »Human Life and killing babies born alive (abortion)
And the people who protect the people who do this!
mommyofthree
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:29pmI guess politicians children are off limits unless they are dead? I don’t think people should judge grieving parents.
Report Post »Joshua7
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:29pmI can’t believe that anyone would actually criticize the way another person grieved for their child. How dare he? This man should be ashamed.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:58pmJoshua, people on the left are not familiar with the word shame or guilt, etc. There is no theme, that they will not attack. If Santorum were a saint, they would criticize him. You see people on the left are the most intolerant, narrow-minded and self righteous group of people that exist.
Report Post »BAO
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:27pmLook, I’m a conservative, but what Santorum and the wife did was pretty strange. I mean… really? Taking a dead infant home to “play with” for a couple of hours. It gives me the creeps.
I’m not sure Santorum is playing with a full deck in reality!
Report Post »Amma K
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:51pmDo you understand that the hospital was the one who suggested this as a way of grieving? It may not be the way you would do it – but I cannot/will not judge the Santorum’s in how they decided to deal with their grief!!!
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 10:23pmTherightsofbilly
Report Post »I have written about a lot of subjects, so no I had no idea what the hell you were talking about at first. I have written about gay rights, I don’t write about gay sex, both because it would be inappropriate and because I’m not really an expert on the subject. You seem to assume that I’m gay because you can’t imagine a straight person would be for equal rights and against bigotry. As to your strained comparison of my opinions on that subject with what I wrote about the Santorums, there are tens of millions of Americans who have slept with members of the same sex and consider it normal. There are two Americans who have slept with a dead baby and consider it normal. In terms of level of normality or abnormality there’s really no comparison.
Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 7, 2012 at 1:09am@CHET
You are being a bit disingenuous in your descriptions of the events. But that’s nothing new for the left.
The following surely will not sway your opinion of the Santorums, but give em a read anyway, for me.
From the Mayo Clinic:
Create memories of your baby. You may want to name your baby. You may also … You might also ask the hospital staff to make handprints or footprints, or have the baby christened or blessed. You might even swaddle the baby or take photos with him or her.”
From the Association for Sudden Infant Death Syndrome:
“The family will be offered the opportunity to see, touch, and hold their infant/child or to
perform other actions to express their feelings in an unhurried, sensitive manner that is in
keeping with their cultural beliefs, values and practices”
I just read my posts again Chet, and don’t see anything that even remotely suggests that you are gay.
Strange……..unless there is some sort of connotation with being painted in to a corner that I am unaware of. If so, no offense intended.
I still think my comparison was rather fitting though.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 7, 2012 at 1:24amJust to be clear Chet,
You were inferring that because they made their situation public by putting it out there as if it were “normal”, that makes it OK for you to judge them as weird, and then vote for other people who don’t make your skin crawl.
My comparison simply applies that same logic to the fact that gays, (not you), constantly make their issues public by putting it out there as if it were “normal”. Much more so than the Santorums did by the way.
Thus, it is equally OK for anyone who finds gay behavior “weird” to vote for the people they think will champion the ideals they hold dear. You know, the ones that don’t make their skin crawl.
What’s your beef?
Report Post »Copper Catfish
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:26pmIt isn’t any of our business how a grieving family mourns the loss of a newborn, as long as it doesn’t break the law! I think anyone who would deny them this is weird and heartless!
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:34pmIt is OUR business when they want to be President.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:33pmat truth did you have the same measure when obama ran? Did you ask for details about his past? Oh, and by the way only when you know Jesus does the truth set you free. Do your homework. I wonder who you really are. You certainly sound like a very nasty person.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:11pmIt wouldn’t be any of our business if they didn’t write a book about it indicating that they still think it’s perfectly normal behavior. Then, we have the right to judge them as weird and vote for someone whose approach to life, death and personal tragedy doesn’t make our flesh crawl.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:50pmWow Chet,
Did you just paint yourself in to a corner there Bud?
I’ll check back later and see.
Anyone here who is familiar with your writings knows exactly what I am referring to.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:41am@CHET
Here’s your post with a little editing.
It wouldn’t be any of our business if they, (Gays) were not constantly posting about it on the Blaze, and were not continually indoctrinating our children about their lifestyle through the schools, TV, etc. indicating that they think it’s perfectly normal behavior. Then, we have the right to judge them as weird and vote for someone whose approach to life, love, faith, morality & family doesn’t make our flesh crawl.
I like that better Chet.
Report Post »Clive
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 11:51amLeopold, grow up, and quit attacking people for having an opinion. He makes a decent point. I will tell you that 99% of the country wouldn’t bring a childs dead body home and show it to the rest of their children. So it is for sure, “weird”. And it also shows poor judgement.
Don’t go talking about “well obama”… obviously obama sucks, we all know that (well most of us), but that doesn’t make this action any less psychotic. American people won’t vote for this dude, or Mitt. Obama has this thing in the bag because our lousy party can’t give us a decent candidate.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:25pmBeing gay is beyond weird, logically, you would think ill people would recognize their illness and seek treatment, gays don’t, they deny it, and try to spread their illness to others, sad, very sad.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:10pmswampy, agree. i bet if there were a cure, some kind of medication, I bet you most gays would not take it,
They are poor souls though. They are trying so hard to be normal and accepted even to themselves,
They thought they would feel better if they come out of the closet. Well, that did not do it, OK if we get some kind of recognition for a relationship. Yes, that will do it. It didn’t. We need the same benefits as normal couples get. It didn’t work. Marriage yes that’s it. No, not enough. We want children to grow up in these relationships then we will be equal or somehow feel better about us. The last and most important is the Bible and the Church. When we get rid of that then we will feel better about us.
They do not know that it is their own conscience that torments them. They try to fix this dilemma from the outside for what is wrong on the inside. They are to be pitied and to be prayed for. God is patiently waiting for each one of them to come to know the truth and to be free.
Report Post »skipmontesjr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:22pmAll this coming from a lib writer on the MadCow show….More people will see it here on the Blaze than probably in the entire usual audience her show has….
Report Post »SmallGovBigGuns
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:21pmi love when progressive lefty hippie types say anything is weird these are the people that
Report Post »-aise their children unisex
-llow their children to have sex changes
-llow their children to do whatever they want so they can learn leasons on their own… which grown into occupy wall street losers
-dont bathe
-eat only plants
etc
etc
seriously? you people are beyond weird
Git-R-Done
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 9:09pmAnd then they hypocritically preach tolerance and diversity down our throats.
Report Post »Tower7_TRUTH
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:21pmOf course it’s weird, so is the Bohemian Grove.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:17pmGay marriage is weird.
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:30pmIndeed and robinson was preaching to the choir with maddow,guess she will never have to worry about stillbirth or abortion rights even though she runs her foul mouth about it,I wonder what her wife thinks about it,most women that make the most noise n.a.r.a.l,n.o.w.and others are about as likely to get pregnant as a nun
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:16pmWEIRD??? It’s beyond weird, It’s sadistic..period! Defend the necro all you want…He’s a whack job!
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 6:23pmbut he’s our whack job and almost the winner in Iowa-god help us
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:21pmYet perverted social liberals are normal people in your demented mindset.
Report Post »Gamaliel
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:07pmGuess what? When a baby is stillborn or dies shortly after birth, parents are or should be encouraged to name, hold, dress the child and treat the death as they would that of other family members.
Haven’t you heard of the work of Elizabeth Kubler Ross? Her work addresses the death denying practices that developed in the latter part of the 20th century in the US.
She has described the five stages of grief and the need for grief to be acknowledged and actively worked through.
This is all common knowledge but since a conservative (Santorum) is viewed as a threat to Romney/Obama the libs are pretending this is wacko behaviour. Wow, are they ever pathetically transparent.
It doesn’t matter who runs against him or Romney. Any viable candidate will be Borked.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:44pm@truth I wonder if you are a Christian, speaking of truth and freedom. Yet the way you talk is very hateful. So that makes me doubt whether you are or not. Know this though. Only if you know Jesus Christ does the truth set you free. I wonder if you would know the difference.
Report Post »USAF2003
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:12pmYa they’re weird? but KILLING unborn children isn’t? F off you moron!
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:25pmOh man, someone stepped in dog crap and brought it into the site…
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 7:41pmMy dog wouldn’t drop anything that putrid.
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 8:03pmA guy with a daddy from Kenya should not run for office either……….
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