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Poll: Even a ‘Generic’ Republican Has an Edge Over Obama

Over the past few weeks, at least one poll has shown that Mitt Romney has the ability to potentially beat Barack Obama in 2012 (pending he secures the nomination, of course). Rather than naming names, a separate poll conducted by Gallup and released this past Thursday pits Obama against a “generic” Republican presidential candidate.

The findings appear to corroborate the notion that a GOP contender — at least at this point in the race — may have a real opportunity to steal the White House away from the president. Even a no-name, faceless Republican currently has a five-percentage point edge over Obama. Below, you can see the results for yourself:

Poll: Even a Generic Republican Has an Edge Over Obama

The situation is grim for the president, though the political landscape is ever-changing and November 2012 is a long way off — anything is possible at this point. The American Spectator’s Ross Kaminsky breaks it down:

…the last time the same poll was taken — a month ago — Obama held a three point lead over a Republican-to-be-named-later. Thus, the swing is a large 8 percentage points, an amount which can’t possibly be statistically insignificant. (And again, if it is, then this poll question should never be asked in this way.)

Finally, it’s one thing for an incumbent to trail in polls against a particular opponent. But it’s another thing entirely to trail a generic, nameless, faceless candidate. In the two prior election cycles where there was no front-runner at this point in the election cycle, Gallup polled the question of the incumbent versus a generic member of the other party.

In both cases, the incumbent had a huge lead — although George H.W. Bush ended up losing to Bill Clinton. For Barack Obama to trail a generic Republican right now shows far more weakness than Gallup would have us believe.

What do you think? Will a Republican be able to hold such a lead through to the 2012 election?

(H/T: American Spectator)

Comments (95)

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 9:04am

    Once again, like 2008, the election will come down to how many dead people, illegals, felons, Disney characters, and pets the Democrats can get out for the vote, and how many corrupt Democrat civil servants that can keep the military votes from showing up.

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  • BLHyde
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 8:22am

    A goldfish that talks has a better chance then obama he is doing a terrible job!

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  • Sicialian Eyeball
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 8:17am

    My dog has a edge over 0bama

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  • The Toad
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 8:12am

    Pawlenty & Bachmann Corrrupt? http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/04/28/pawlenty-bachmann-sought-pardon-for-minnesota-donor-accused-in-ponzi-scheme.html

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  • The Toad
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 8:10am

    Romney ranked 8 among top 10 Rhinos! http://massresistance.org/docs/marriage/romney/record/

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  • ginpa
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 7:00am

    @DUSTYLUV
    Sure that’s what the country needs —stay home and don’t vote. Should the big 0 get reelected to four more years we will not have an America to put back together. 0 has just about made Congress irrelevant and he would probably push for king for life if we “give” him another term. He must be stopped!!!!!!!

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  • Chet Hempstead
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 6:50am

    Good news for Pawlenty, he‘s the most generic republican I’ve ever seen.

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  • dissentnow
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 6:44am

    I thought that Mitt Romney WAS the generic candidate

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  • psadie
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 3:51am

    How would Hillary fare against a Republican? If Obama’s numbers drop drastically, she may enter the race. She is owed when Obama stole the election from her in 2008.

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  • Cold War Vet
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 3:22am

    No matter how screwed up our country is, we still need to vote-assuming there are free elections by 2012. If not, we’ll be fighting instead of voting.

    I can’t stress enough how important it is that we Tea Partiers unite very strongly against Obama and the Democrats. We MUST CHOOSE OUR OWN PRESIDENT, and not let the mainstream media do it for us by default. Right now, they have that RINO loser Mitt Romney as the front runner, and THEY are promoting him as our frontrunner, hoping to make it come true. He lost early in 2008, and the MSM knows the Dems can beat him again. At least they seem to think so.

    That is exactly how we ended up with unwinnable John McCain in 2008. The mainstream media basically chose him for us. Never again.

    WE must choose our president. Don’t let the MSM influence your decision. And we need people to get off their butts and vote. No excuses. Our nation is in grave danger right now, though I’m sure you all know that! Please help get the word out to vote, and to vote for OUR candidates, not theirs.

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  • Randyrocker
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 3:12am

    America is still under threat from the Obama administration. Any attack on Obama or response against him, is attacked. So the entire media apparatus of the United States is dead frightened of this shallow, unknown poser presently sitting in the White House.
    The media in the United States is completely composed of 100% certifiable cowards, who are scared to death of saying anything against him, so therefore all that they are left to do is praise him, hoping he’ll accidentally fall from his heady perch, or fail to live up to all of his promised expectations, which now seems to be the case. The cowardly media are still holding on to their falsely created facade that Obama’s a messiah superman, even though he’s looking more like a skunk ready to stink up everything he comes in contact with, but the people have his number now and are light years ahead of the nation’s network news media moguls and all of their talking heads. As far as the public‘s concerned Barack Obama’s days are numbered.

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    • 13thGenerationAmerican
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 5:41am

      Why even bother commenting if you can’t name specific threats that Obama has made to our country

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    • Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 6:16am

      13 Generations of Incest – Why do you bother with breathing? Your answer will tell you what you are looking for.

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  • bullcrapbuster
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 2:52am

    As I stated on this forum a month ago Hillarycould take over and she would be harder to to beat than Obama.. She would also carry forward the progressive agenda. Hope the republican party is gathering ammo (metaphorically speaking) to use against her.

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  • Arc
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 2:47am

    We need someone who is not funded by special interest groups. Someone who has the “peoples business” in mind and no lobbyist influence. November 2012 should be a “ We The People” election. Start now encouraging everyone you know to vote. As Glenn has stated, ” Do your homework, research and “ question with boldness”
    Long Live The Republic!!!!!!!

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  • laura_misha
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 2:45am

    Cheez, Snow and Sissy:
    I am glad to know (albeit a very scary thought) that I am not the only person who thinks that this just might happen; I would not put it past them as far as I can throw them… I don‘t see them ceding any power and ’progress’ they have made, easily or otherwise, given the victory they perceived they had with Obamacare being voted into law (for now),to give just one example. All the work put into bringing their progressive utopia into fruition to be overthrown due to Obama‘s rash and reckless speedy ’fundamental transformation of America’? I think not… they will desperately cling to power in the same way Chavez took his power in Venezuela at whatever cost they see necessary… I don’t doubt it for one brief second. May I be proven terribly wrong…

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  • SHOWMESTATEGUY
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 2:44am

    The 2012 election will be one of those defining moments in the history of this country. I believe this is the last chance to stop the lunacy going on in Washington DC. If Obama wins a second term, turn out the lights, we have lost. We will have not only lost an election but we will have lost our country, never to be the same again.

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    • 100 Million Patriots Standing
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 7:14am

      Then the world, as we would fall into the status of other ‘run of the mill’ countries. For our Republic to stand, we each must stand.

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    • eternalhostility
      Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:28am

      I agree and I would only add as well if a RINO wins we are done. Liberal, progressive or RINO they are ALL the same.

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  • pwatkins
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 1:49am

    I will vote for anyone but Obama, but am putting the rest in God’s hands bc it is too much evil among us to put any trust in our system alone.

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    • riseandshine
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 2:06am

      I’m going to vote for who I think is best qualified to be in the Whitehouse, in my State’s primary…regardless of his or her chances against Obama…If my choice doesn’t get the nomination, I’ll vote for the Constitution Party candidate.

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  • nomercy63
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 1:44am

    I nominate Ronald Reagan! Yea I know he’s dead but I think he would win and even do a better job being dead then Obama!

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    • CatB
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 2:00am

      Well said!

      TEA!

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    • Cold War Vet
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 3:13am

      @ NOMERCY63

      Ronald Reagan‘s ideas today hold more truth and power than Obama’s entire administration combined. I wish he could still run, even if he has passed on…

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    • Nobamazone
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 7:44am

      if dead people can vote then we should be able to vote in a dead person! LOL
      seriously…. I would be shocked if we get to vote at all, I am with those of you who believe his ego and puppet masters won’t allow him to lose.

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  • Messenger4God
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 1:43am

    Good. Anybody but Barry. RINOs, pseudo-patriots, and other insincere, lying SOBs need not apply.

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  • needanotherReagan
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 1:40am

    A generic sack of horse manure has an edge over Obumbler.

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  • Chet Hempstead
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 1:25am

    The headline is incorrect – it should read ONLY a generic Republican has an edge over Obama. When you ask people about the actual Republicans that they have to choose from, they don’t do so well.

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    • Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 4:59am

      A turd could beat Obama that’s plain to see as you guys actually put one in office. I think we’ll raise the bar though this time, thanks for the reminder.

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  • orcainohio
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 1:21am

    I heard 56% of the country is pulling a government check. We are facing huge problems and everyone will look the other way. Just like the Greeks!

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  • tyler_durden
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 12:53am

    I’m telling you I put no faith in the american voter anymore. Sorry. We have too many sheeple here not paying attention and believing the garbage the six o’clock news puts out. Then you have the other cretins that want to vote themselves other peoples money. And I‘m still not entirely sure the whole system isn’t rigged. This isn’t the america I grew up in and its certainly not the america the founders left us.

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    • neverending
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 2:17am

      Truer words were never spoken

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 3:32am

      I hate to but I agree…………we are looking like Rome at the end of her days

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 6:51am

      TYLER , I am only voting for Ron Paul whether he is
      on the ballot or not.

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    • JRook
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 11:50am

      Interesting observation. Now if you just realize that both sides of the isle are bought and paid for by the wealthy and large corporations you start to understand. All this nonsense, merely exaggerated by the sites like these, are examples of the parlor game the wealthy have to common man play to keep them from focusing on who is really running things.

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  • SacredHonor1776
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 12:30am

    “What do you think? Will a Republican be able to hold such a lead through to the 2012 election?”

    Someone better….!

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  • Laus Deo
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 12:30am

    I pray for a true conservative to unseat the Marxist in president’s clothing.

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    • eternalhostility
      Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:25am

      American Soldier is right – the republicans think a RINO like Romne can win because they see polls like this YET true republicans and libertarians will not vote for a RINO and poof Obama will win a second term. That will be a disaster for the Republic but that is what WILL happen.

      A true constitutionalist is the only one that can beat Obama – you will all see in 2012. Nominate a Romney type candidate and you might as well vote for Obama.

      Ron Paul is the solution.

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  • Cheetosareus
    Posted on June 18, 2011 at 12:29am

    A potted plant could beat Obama. If it’s a potted pot plant it definitely would whip him all the way back to Africa.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 12:36am

      You all still think that there will be elections in 2012 ?
      Have you all ever heard of an islamomarxist giving up power voluntarily ?
      ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD ? EVAH ?

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    • GadsdenPatriot
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 12:38am

      A dirty sock has a better chance…

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    • SavingtheRepublic.com
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 1:00am

      ^____^____^
      I hear what many of you are saying but DO NOT underestimate the left. I have seen it first hand they are there and highly active. Sorry to say based on what I have seen so far I dont think anyone in the GOP can pull it off. Also there is a large percentage of individuals who are not factored into these polls. The left is running below the radar right now just as those deemed on the right as the silent majority.

      I never put much weight in a poll esp one this far out, BHO will turn the magic on next year dont you worry and the radicals will be mobilized stronger than ever.

      Do not let over confidence be your undoing…….

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 1:01am

      Don’t worry…we will find the right Progressive RINO to run against him….I would rather stay home than vote for another McCain like Candidate. I would rather see the Nation fail with a two term Obama so we can start to rebuild it again.

      A quick death will be better than a slow painful one. NO RINOs for me.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 1:02am

      a Persnickety cheese has a better chance of being chosen the people’s choice and a soured piece of pork that would sicken even the heartiest of stomachs and would edge him out over domestic issues. Basically to even dumb it down so Colmes can understand and digest; a severe case of food poisoning would win in a head-to-head matchup that Hillary Clinton in a thong and whip would garner more support than a lift and separate bra would do in a battle against Rosie O Donnell and Michael Moore.

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    • Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 1:04am

      DustyLuv, with you brother on that. Absolutely no RINO picked by the MSM, hell no!

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    • SavingtheRepublic.com
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 1:10am

      ^____^____^
      @Dusty and Bob with you & you are dead on, that IS whats going to happen another RINO will be in. This is why I make the argument that there is no candidate right now to take BHO on, esp if Ron Paul gets the nomination, it will be a lock on BHO’s 2nd term.

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 1:22am

      Watch the other hand, Bama was brushing up on his Spanish
      last week, when he went to Puerto Rico.. Here comes Amnisty
      for 20 million Votes……..Soros, Unions and Friends have given
      their boy a Billion $$$ for re-election, Can’t run on Merit or Record.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 1:29am

      @Cheezwhiz:

      This is one matter I definitly agree with you upon in this way:

      While I hope and pray that the ‘12 elections will happen peacefully and in accordance to the law with Mr Obama out of office along with the progressives of all sides; I do see a chance that somehow an ‘incident’ or series of them will occur in which they will make a final stand to take power in the fullest way and with force.

      Now, I gave a fair to better chance of the same happening in ‘10 when the Democrats lost bigtime in the House, and was wrong there, thankfully. Yet for them to even pull off a scorched earth action in the last lame duck time would not suprise me in the least.

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    • GBMBulletsSKNRD
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 1:50am

      A fart in the wind could beat him……

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    • GBMBulletsSKNRD
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 1:52am

      Oh yeah and it would smell better…

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    • sissykatz
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 2:01am

      Cheez and Snow

      I have to agree with the two of you. I pray that is does go off peacefully. I would not be surprised if it wen otherwise.I have thought also that Obama could be beaten easily if done “legally” but we know that the deck will be stacked with fraud and counterfeit ballots.. I wish they would not hold early elections because that would cut down on fraud. This time they better get the ballots to the Military on time so we will have their votes. The Tea Party needs to be at every polling place as lookouts also.

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    • GBMBulletsSKNRD
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 2:11am

      Come on everyone. You have to admit those where two clever lines. And not to mention true to boot.

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    • ME
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 2:17am

      never underestimate an enemy
      never count your money before you leave the table
      I could go on but honestly I did not think my fellow man was stupid enough for him to win in the first place, my faith in the ignorance of over 50% of the population will never waver again.

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    • Cold War Vet
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 2:43am

      @ CHEEZWHIZ

      That’s one of our fears. Right now, holding our breath and working on voting him out, but will fight if it all goes bad! Don’t know what else I can do at the moment…

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    • Cold War Vet
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 2:45am

      One thing working in our favor is that Obama is growing less popular by the day with his incredible blunders and comments!

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    • Cold War Vet
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 3:08am

      @ BOB_R_OATHKEEPER

      That’s what I like to hear! No RINO picked by the MSM! It’s happpened before, and we can’t let it happen again. I want the whole Tea Party nation to get the word on that, which you just said! I’ll do my part!

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    • Teaparty-grammy
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 6:10am

      @ cheezwhiz who Posted: “You all still think that there will be elections in 2012 ?
      Have you all ever heard of an islamomarxist giving up power voluntarily ?
      ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD ? EVAH ?”

      This is what has worried me, ever since I heard Odumber cheerfully proclaiming on TV that it would be OK with him if he was a one-term president . To begin with, every time the man opens his mouth, he LIES. Secondly, with his ego, I just don’t see that being true. And if he is lying (IF?) thenthe truth is that he does not expect to have to RUN for re-election. I know they Demorats are doing their best to portray us as violent nutcases–with a lot of help from their “useful idiot” parrots, and they have been trying their damndest to provike us INTO violence, but so far it has not worked, making it difficult for him to declare martial law. But as he and his masters get increasingly desperate, if they can’t get the real thing (violence from us), they will simply do what they always do and LIE about it and go ahead with the martial law ANYHOW.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 6:46am

      Mistake #1… they are assuming there will be a “real” election.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 6:50am

      The argument that the two parties
      should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps,
      of the Right and the other of the Left,
      is a foolish idea acceptable only
      to doctrinaire and academic thinkers.

      Carroll Quigley

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    • tifosa
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 8:05am

      The fact that the Republicans are willing to elect “dirty socks,“ ”fart in the wind,“ or ”a potted plant” has escaped no one.

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    • KICKILLEGALSOUT
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 9:14am

      Romney is the media’s choice! What a scam that everyone in the media is putting Romney as a front runner and everyone I know wouldn’t even think about supporting a RINO like Romney. They are trying everything they can to keep us brainwashed and away from the real candidates. The media is not going to help it is going to take a real grass roots campaign , knocking on doors, talking to friends and family, posting on internet news sites etc. to support those like Ron Paul or Herman Cain!

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    • TexasCommonSense
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 9:15am

      We‘re assuming there will even be an election in ’12.

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    • NOTAMUSHROOM
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 9:30am

      @Tiffany (author of this piece)
      ” that a GOP contender — at least at this point in the race — may have a real opportunity to steal the White House away from the president. ”

      Seriously? You thought the word STEAL was appropriate? How about RESCUE????

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 9:31am

      Obama has continually violated the Constitution he swore to uphold. He has openly stated that he will not enforce valid laws and attacked sovereign nation without a Congressional mandate. These are clearly the actions of a Dictator. Dictators do not allow free elections! http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • click_name_4_impeachment
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 9:32am

      it doesn’t matter, we will not last that long…

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    • NOTAMUSHROOM
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 9:40am

      @Tifosa
      Let me help you honey.
      1) People here are not necessarily Republicans (although, what’s in a name, right?)
      2) a fart in the wind or a potted plant would be less destructive to our way of life than the islamomarxist that you admire so much.
      Got it?

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    • JRook
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 11:04am

      Nice try Tiff…you do understand the need to show polling error when displaying such data. And yes with a poll this close you will find statistical swings from month to month. And keep in mind it states generic Republican, whatever that is, not a nut case or anti-individual liberty person like M. Bachmann.

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    • fastfacts
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 11:44am

      Sadly it isn’t every poll that he is losing in… not yet. Romney is definately the front-runner but give the others some time and there will be a real race. I see the top tier being Romney, Pawlenty, Bachmann, and Cain. Perry will soon enter but I don‘t know how he will be taken yet since he has some hard skeleton’s in his closet he will have to work through. This will be a great election… a political superbowl. Here is a recap of the debates early this week: http://tiny.cc/32o5f

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    • jzs
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 12:04pm

      American Spectator breaks it down for us: “Thus, the swing is a large 8 percentage points, an amount which can’t possibly be statistically insignificant.” American Spectator, you FAIL.

      The poll was plus or minus 4 percentage points. That means each number is plus or minus four percentage points, not the difference. So, according to this poll, President Obama could be either ahead or behind. It’s a statistical dead heat against a “generic” candidate. He’d fair better in a head to head match up.

      Cool insults though: farts, spoiled pork, whatever. I didn’t know they let people under 18 post here.

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 4:04pm

      No generic RINO will win against Obama. Why? Because I won’t let them. If we can’t get a real constitutionalist conservative like Ron Paul out of the primaries, I’m voting for Obama. And you will lose all of the Libertarians and Independents to….. well… their respective party. Ron Paul will garner all those votes and bring them to the republican ticket if he wins the nomination. No other candidate can say that.

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    • avenger
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 5:15pm

      what part of no more GOP anointed candidates do you people not understand ! time to elect a REAL CONSERVATIVE.no more worthless rinos or gop blessed candidates.

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    • Evileye
      Posted on June 18, 2011 at 6:03pm

      I would like to see Perry as president Michelle bachmann as VP.
      I do not trust any of theses people from ether coast.
      I live near Seattle and its ultra liberal agenda.
      The same left wing nut cases as New York and other liberal east coast states.
      The good people of Texas would have dumped Perry long ago if he were into gun control and over control of peoples lives.
      for example Would you call Olympia Snowe a republican, all though she claims to be one?
      Consider the ban on drilling in Texas because of a lizard.
      They have been drilling for Oil in Texas for ever and the Lizard is still there.
      I was in Odessa Texas at one time and they had a drill rig set up in a parking lot along side a drug store in town drilling for oil.
      Can you imagine that happening in one of our left wing states?
      Perry Is against this kind of intrusion

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    • Clive
      Posted on June 20, 2011 at 5:08pm

      this article forgets to mention the other part of the study (shocking for the blaze to omit things). when you place any ACTUAL republican nominee against obama, obama beats them by a minimum of 9 points. he has this in the bag, there is no one to run up against him. its all kooks and losers.

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