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‘Every Generation Has Its Moses’: Beck Invokes Insightful Rabbi on the Meaning of Leadership

What is leadership? In the poignant video clip below, Beck relays a message from a wise sage, Rabbi Simon Jacobson, who, in his book “Towards a Meaningful Life” just might have an inkling:

From the book:

In our secular society we tend to think of a leader as a person who’s well connected or who is powerful or charismatic or wealthy. We judge leaders by what they have. But a true leader should be judged by what he has not: Ego, arrogance, and self‑interest. A true leader sees his work as a self‑less service towards a higher purpose. As the sagists say leadership is not power and dominance. It is servitude.That doesn’t mean that a leader is weak. He derives great strength from his dedication to a purpose that is greater than himself.

Every generation has its Moses, a leader who inspires absolute trust, who is totally dedicated to fulfilling his unique role. He understands and appreciates each person’s role in perfecting this world and guides him or her accordingly. He rises above any individual perspective to take a global view, seeing how much each person and each issue fits into the entire scheme of the contemporary world. A true leader shakes people from their revery and tells them, no, you don’t need to live a life of desperation and confusion. Yes, you do have the ability to find meaning in your life and the unique skills to fulfill that meaning. You’re an important link in a chain of generations past. You have a legacy worth preserving and a future worth fighting for.

A true leader shows us that our world is indeed heading somewhere and that we control its movement. That we need not be at the mercy of personal prejudices or prevailing political winds, that none of us is subservient to the history or nature that we are history and nature. That we can rid the world of war and hate and ignorance, obliterate the borders that separate race from race and rich from poor.

Still many people have lost faith in contemporary leaders. The solution is not to resign yourself to the sad state of affairs but to search for and demand a leader of sterling character. The ultimate goal should be to have all the benefits of a democracy and the benefits of a visionary leader. It’s important especially today to distinguish between leadership and demagoguery. A demagogue may inspire people but his motives are impure and his expectations are unrealistic. It is wise to be a bit skeptical when assessing a leader. Is he truly devoted to his mission or just seeking glory? Is he truly interested in the welfare of others or simply building a flock for his own self aggrandizement? A true leader does not seek followers. He wants to teach others how to be leaders. He doesn’t want control. He wants truth. He doesn’t impose his leadership on others, nor does he take away anyone’s autonomy. He inspires by love, not coercion. When it comes time to take credit, he makes himself invisible. But he is the first to arrive at a time of need, and he will never shrink away in fear. He is so passionate about your welfare that when you consult him for guidance, it’s like coming face to face with yourself for the first time.

Beck asked if either Mitt Romney or Barack Obama evokes these sentiments and truths for us.

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  • truthnstuff
    Posted on August 15, 2012 at 10:15am

    Squarehead, why do you and your kind keep throwing out verses to support your theology which have been completely refuted and shown to be fabrications from the truth.

    You are like the liberals, parroting the talking points without a clue as to what is truth and distortion.

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    • IsThereADifference
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 12:54pm

      Is Glenn Jewish yet?

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    • Lidror
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 8:59pm

      @TruthNStuff: Thank you.

      @IsThereADifference: Stranger things have happened.

      Zechariah 8:23
      כג כֹּה-אָמַר, יְהוָה צְבָאוֹת, בַּיָּמִים הָהֵמָּה, אֲשֶׁר יַחֲזִיקוּ עֲשָׂרָה אֲנָשִׁים מִכֹּל לְשֹׁנוֹת הַגּוֹיִם; וְהֶחֱזִיקוּ בִּכְנַף אִישׁ יְהוּדִי לֵאמֹר, נֵלְכָה עִמָּכֶם–כִּי שָׁמַעְנוּ, אֱלֹהִים עִמָּכֶם.

      23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold, out of all the languages of the nations, shall even take hold of the skirt (tallit/prayer shawl) of him that is a Jew, saying: We will go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’

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  • Oldguy89
    Posted on August 15, 2012 at 9:58am

    The book he quotes from is acutally the Practical distillation of the Philosophy of the
    Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, who was the revered laead and teacher, known through out the world as “The Rebbe”. The Rebbe-taught and embodied a distinctly universal message, calling upon all humankind to lead productive and virtuous lives and callfor unity betwen all people.

    Wow such a conscept. Too bad we all cannot embrace such a concept.

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  • vaman
    Posted on August 15, 2012 at 8:25am

    It’s difficult to understand why any Rabbi would even talk to Beck. His views are similar to the evangelicals concerning Jews and Israel. They don’t honestly support Israel. They have some fantasy about jesus coming back and landing in Israel and the “smart” jews will become “born again” and the others will just die off and go to hell with the rest of us. Evangelical crazies should be honest about their intentions.

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    • SquareHead
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 9:45am

      Vaman

      You to will bow when the day of judgement comes, and if your sins are not paid for by Christ’s blood, no amount of good works will suffice to escape judgement. No one comes to the Father except through the son. If you are Jewish you should go back and read the Torah, as it was foretold of repeatedly, and many of these passages are not taught in your local synagogue, since they obviously speak of Christ.

      Isaiah 53:
      ………Surely he took up our pain
      and bore our suffering,
      yet we considered him punished by God,
      stricken by him, and afflicted.
      5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
      he was crushed for our iniquities;
      the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
      and by his wounds we are healed.
      6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray…….
      See for yourself:
      http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+53&version=NIV

      Psalm 22:
      1. My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
      Why are you so far from saving me,
      so far from my cries of anguish?
      See for yourself:
      http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=psalm%2022&version=NIV

      Like any liberal or most people for that matter, you have found your world view, and you will steer clear of any facts that might contradict your predetermined beliefs, much like a robot.

      I guess that pretending to be MLK was not enough for Glenn, now he wants to be a political Moses.. If there is a political Moses of our day it is Ron Paul.

      Ron Paul 2012

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    • abwehragent
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 9:51am

      Assuming for the sake of argument this is truly what you believe, then you truly either cannot yourself be a follower of Jesus Christ or do not understand the truth of Christianity. This is not a religion in its truest sense. It is a relationship with the Jewish Messiah. He (and we) loves the Jewish people and from before time began desires that no human being should perish. Each of us because of our willful disobedience to laws set up for our protection is already on the road to an eternity without hope. Whether we are pulled lovingly off that path to destruction is absolutely a matter of our choice. If you are hanging on the edge of a cliff by a tree branch and I offer you the only rope with which we together can pull you to safety, do not dare to blame me if you choose to let go of the rope and plunge to your demise. That would be purely hypocritical on your part.

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    • Lowell1775
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 10:14am

      Vaman…Squarehead is square on….and we “crazies” as you call us don’t hide the message you just described, but rather shout it from the mountaintops….and hence you have heard The Word. The choice between darkness and Light, as from the time of Adam, is yours individually.

      Now Squarehead…..wouldn’t Ron Paul be closer to a Jeremiah figure than a Moses? Ron P. like Jeremiah warns, yet few heed.

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    • Lidror
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 8:46pm

      @Vaman: I am 50-years-old. As a former Evangelical who is now in the process of formally converting to Judaism (after 15 years of study), I have a unique perspective and I must respectfully disagree with your statement. While it is never difficult to “dig-up” nuts anywhere, Evangelicals are overwhelmingly supportive of Jews and Israel because of their love for their Savior– a Jew. In addition, the Evangelicals believe that the Bible commands them to do so. By understanding this unique relationship, Rabbi Yechiel Eckstein has been able to help hundreds of Jews. End of story.

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  • philipzhao
    Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:44am

    Hopefully there’s a present-day Moses who would demand Morsi to let the Chritians go, and if not, use his staff to turn the Nile bloody red !!

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  • Juniemoon
    Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:46am

    All of us find our Moses, some may think Glenn is it, some not. A Moses for me would be a person who follows, teaches Torah.. A lot of Torah doesn’t apply because 1. you’re not living in the Land of Israel, 2. the temple no longer stands (Priesthood gone) Sorry Mormons and Catholiccs, your priests are not biblical). 3. The Beit Dem court is out of session and 4. Yeshua fulfilled the lamb sacrifiice, and he is the living temple of God, he is the high Priest and judge.

    God is not univerisal, he gave us the path to redemption, anyone claiming other ways to get there is addding to and taking away from God’s plan. Yeshua was not just a man, not just a sacrficial lamb, he was God in the flesh and there are no Gods formed before him or after him.

    The whitehorse is the anti-christ, not Christ. Mormons need to understand that.

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  • loneindividual
    Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:46am

    I use to be Mormon. Not anymore for my own reasons….different than all the idiots that left the Church or were ex-communicated. lol

    Hate those haters. I know them to be fools if not traitors…. I know a few that got deeply involved in the occult after they left. Others who dabble in the occult.

    People who stop being Mormon…sorry…they tend to either be Liberals, Occultists, Oathbreakers, Weekend Believers, & even Masons. (I only know this cuz I turned a few back a couple of years ago.)

    Yes, that’s right. I do make the distinction between Masons & the Occult…but not by much. Lotz of overlap believe it or not…but that’s mostly cuz fools and liars blur the lines…..

    JUST LIKE WITH REPUBLICANS & DEMOCRATS!

    Can’t Moderate Virtue or the Truth.

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  • giopa2
    Posted on August 15, 2012 at 2:35am

    No, not every generation has its Moses and in fact it’s pretty rare.
    Moses was given the authority to lead by God alone not by any atribute of his character although God no doubt knew his character thoroughly and considered it fit enough to lead..
    With the exception of Joshua, Moses had no clients as a guidence counsellor.
    Moses was primarily a teacher of Torah (something a gentile will always ignore) and he failed
    as a leader at Massah and Meribah when he invoked a miracle rather than first sanctifying God by teaching Torah.

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  • Pigpen
    Posted on August 15, 2012 at 1:45am

    Oh, good, it is now ok for the Jews to like Mitt Romney. WHEW! I’m glad that Rabbi Beck took the time to prove that Romney is Kosher after all! (Does that make Obama treyf?) But what about the REST of the American denominations? I guess Glenn, like the rest of the insufferable elite in the Republican Party, just figures that the Baptist Republicans and the Presbyterian Republicans and all the other Christian (and white) Republicans will just shut up and fall in line with the Republican Candidate no matter how Mormon he might be. After all, we have always done what we were told before. Why should now be any different? *sigh* Or is it that the “white vote” doesn’t even matter? Maybe only the JEWISH vote matters now? Well, don’t say that out loud, my “Stand By Israel” friends, because you are ANTI-SEMITIC if you complain about the power of the Jewish Lobby! REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY! SCR3W ISRAEL and the PERVERT AMERICAN JEW!

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  • Tracy Y. Andersen
    Posted on August 15, 2012 at 1:25am

    I find it interesting that the “Mormon detractors” use old saws that have been kicking around for some time, and have been refuted and ignored for all that time also. Nevertheless it will rise to crescendo now as we approach the debates and the vote. However, how many of those detractors will look at the sites set up for information about Mormons, such as lds.org, or will go by the stuff put out by other detractors? Of course, hypocrisy is standard fare nowadays, so we will see more and more of it. It labels and defines those using it.

    For example, the white horse prophecy has not been canonized, and is refuted by Church leadership. It is an example of several statements attributed to Joseph Smith or other leaders of that time, that have been used to defame him and the Church, but are lies that have become “Truth” in the minds of unbelievers that attack the Church and its followers. Tell an untruth about someone or something, and repeat it often enough, and it supplants the truth in the minds of those wishing to destroy anything of good. This happens every time Glenn Beck brings forth a universal truth that progressives want to oppose and destroy.

    Look for more of these negative tactics in the near future, and be prepared to promulgate truth in its stead.

    Laus Deo

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    • loneindividual
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:31am

      Dude, the White Horse Prophecy isn’t not a farce. In fact…there are alot of Christians that apply the “White Horse” role to their candidate. They believe things happen in a cycle.

      I find the hypocrisy obvious.

      Regardless, Mormons do feel it is part of their religion (and are thus fanatics) to protect the U.S. Constitution and have been for quite a while been prepared to sacrifice everything.

      Ezra Taft Benson made mention of it even while he was President/Prophet.

      I‘m annoyed that Mormons don’t stand up for their Faith. I use to be one and I still stand up for the Church…cuz I know they are not Devilworshipers. They don’t have symbols that have functions contradictory to what Jesus Christ had taught. If anything, I have repeatedly read and heard leaders of the Church speak out against the Occult and at times even Masons. They know for a fact that the “Brotherhood” has been corrupted.

      Everyone now knows that the entire system is overrun. Mormons just knew it before most.

      I still think all church’s have failed and no longer possess Divine Authority. I’m a Lockean Deist now….and I intend to die and stay dead. I am an orphan in the universe.

      All you Anti-Mormons have been lead astray. Christianity was hi-jacked…Islam fabricated….Judaism corrupted.

      Indeed the Abrahamic Religions have all failed.

      Be on the look out for a “New Religion”. That’s when the Anti-Christ/Prometheus will enter.

      Mormons will not be on the wrong side.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 11:26pm

    It’s funny that in this age anyone who speaks their mind in a particular way because they have no angle, and they don’t care about what people think of them is usually considered to be arrogant. Most people speak with a forked tongue, and when you don‘t speak with a forked tongue people don’t know what to do.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 11:21pm

    People don’t even realize they are captive in Babylon. That’s even why the new [Total Recall] did away with the part saying “Quaid, open your mind.”

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 11:16pm

    “Every generation has it’s Moses.” Well then that explains why we hear about someone parting the sea, and also lowering some kind of [veil] that scares people every generation. Oh wait a minute, no we don’t.

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  • taxpro4u03
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 11:12pm

    For all the ‘trolls…’ — “Keep up…”

    Cicero born 106 BC, died 43 BC
    Cicero dixit
    “True law is right reason in agreement with nature; it summons to duty by its commands, and averts from wrongdoing by its prohibitions. And it does not lay its commands or prohibitions upon good men in vain, though neither have any effect on the wicked. It is a sin to try to alter this law, nor is it allowable to attempt to repeal any part of it, and it is impossible to abolish it entirely. We cannot be freed from its obligations by senate or people, and we need not look outside ourselves for an expounder or interpreter of it. And there will not be different laws at Rome and at Athens, or different laws now and in the future, but one eternal and unchangeable law will be valid for all nations and all times, and there will one master and ruler, that is, God, over us all, for he is the author of this law, its promulgator, and its enforcing judge. Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature, and by reason of this very fact he will suffer the worst penalties, even if he escapes what is commonly called punishment . . .”

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  • elderbat
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 10:48pm

    Romney, maybe; he wasn’t my first choice but he gets points for Ryan. Obama? No way. Nothing but lies and hypocrisy. If ever anyone fits the definition of “amoral” it’s Obama: no conscious knowledge of right or wrong. I‘m a mom and I’ve often wondered how his daughters are being affected by his words and deeds…prayers for them.

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  • encinom
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 10:22pm

    More of the Mormon 700 Club. Of course Beck needs a Mormon in office to fulfill some BS Mormon white horse myths.

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    • ilovestock
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 10:58pm

      better a mormon than a muslim

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    • taxpro4u03
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 11:08pm

      With all do respect, I humbly submit that you might avail yourself to some philosophical THOUGHT of one Marcus Tullius Cicero concerning Natural Law – ‘Reason, Wisdom and Logic’ — which PREDATES ALL Abrahamic ‘religions.’ — I could care less WHAT ‘deity’ one pays homage to — or does NOT pay homage to. Spewing from a FALSE premise to evoke an ‘emotional reaction’ flies in the face of SOUND logic and principles. What‘s good for some isn’t necessarily good for the weaker minded among us. The ability to comprehend reasonable thought LOGICally varies among ‘people.’ MOST can keep up. Others choose NOT to keep up. Yet others simply are in the very real sense, mentally retarded – naturally or chemically… Peace —->http://ftp.colloquium.co.uk/cicero.html

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    • loneindividual
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:33am

      bs myth…sure….but at least it’ll be proof that Mormons give a fack about this country….unless you want to accuse them of being part of the “CONSPIRACY”.

      If anything they have been sacrificial lambs like the Jews.

      Issac -> Israel

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    • encinom
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 10:37am

      @taxpro4u03
      More of a fan of John Finnis.

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  • Searchingforthelight
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 10:10pm

    Leaders are not born. Leaders are made. I believe Glenn has helped inspire many, many, many, leaders.
    A leader also understands what it means to set an example.
    I would trust Romney with our National Funds. I would trust Romney with our National resources.
    Most people don’t like being on a budget, but that is just what America needs.
    Responsible people making responsible choices.

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    • Thomas_Jefferson
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 10:32pm

      ‘Every Generation Has Its Moses’

      Glenn, You are this generation’s Moses, MLK & Noah.
      Metaphorically speaking,
      Your the one that is building us the ARK.
      & when the ARK is finished, You will be President.
      God will tell you to run when its time.

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  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 10:06pm

    wow Glenn. I could not help but think this generation’s version of Moses is Ron Paul. Ron Paul has not compromised his principles in 30 years of congress and continues to lead a principled debate against the evils of progressivism

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  • CRichardson
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 9:52pm

    Thank you Glenn for this information. It gives me direction. This is the kind of thing they need to teach in school so that we would grow more leaders and become a society of more leaders than not. What a full society we would become. I learned in one of my elementary classes that good news doesn’t sell. It’s interesting to me that the comments here are so few. It is so easy to complain and find fault. That‘s what’s missing in our society . . . encouragement to be better, to do better and to seek the best. I don’t think they really teach that in school.

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    • taxpro4u03
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 11:59pm

      MOST ‘public schools’ are not designed to ‘teach’ one how to THINK. They are designed to indoctrinate – to be a ‘good citizen’ (look that one up and learn what a ‘citizen’ is, both at law, and in the greater bastardized usage of the word as used today — FROM ITS SOURCE) – What YOU think ‘citizen’ means is NOT how the term is being interpreted without your knowledge. — Learning is an INDIVIDUAL responsibility.

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    • CRichardson
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 10:43am

      I remember teachers that use to inspire me, encourage me and would tell me I could do better . . . and I went to public schools back in the ‘60s and ’70s. If you read history, one of the purposes of education was to grow a person who would be exceptional which means a great person for others not just himself. We use to attempt to grow noble people in our public schools. Now it is just indoctrination.

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  • marybethelizabeth
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 9:50pm

    Mormons believe they can stir up as much trouble as they want because there are 3 supernatural beings commonly referred to as the Nephites that will appear when necessary to save mankind.

    That’s why Mr. Beck can pretend he is Gandi or Moses and lead people astray without a guilty conscience because his religion teaches that things will eventually be made right.

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    • mjolene
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 12:17am

      Lead people astray? This man has led many people to be better citizens, mothers, fathers, Christians. Two weeks ago he led thousands to Dallas to serve others. Where is the harm in that?
      I also believe that in the end everything will be fine. Mormons are not the only Christians to believe that.

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    • loneindividual
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:38am

      Dude…the 3 Nephites just like the 3 of the 12 original apostles of Christ are missionaries….that’s about it.

      Read your facking New Testament. 12 in the Old World (Jews). 12 in the New World (Nephites).

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  • Mr.Fitnah
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 9:42pm

    I have tired of Beck and his insensate religiosity .

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  • Gold
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 9:07pm

    Some people prefer to shoot the messenger rather that own the message. As for those who elect to attack Beck, I would lay odds those same people remain part of the problem rather than owning the responsibility that comes with being part of the solution. Neither Beck’s Mormonism nor his preference of historians detract from or diminish the power of his message…which consistently remains that the individual matters, that each of us is empowered by Creator, and that each has a vital role to play (for good or for ill) in the ever-unfolding story of humanity. Now just what, exactly, is there to hate about that? Nothing. So the cheap shot is at the messenger.

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  • nobull14
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 8:53pm

    Every time some one invokes thought and really makes you think ? . There are the ones that try to tear up and destroy what is said. It would be better if they just went away and were heard of no more !!!

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    • taxpro4u03
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 10:50pm

      That’s the idea. In the last 50 years, a majority of people have FAILED to recognize that critical THINKING skills are there to be developed — most choose NOT to — too much like work. Intellectual laziness. We hear it DAILY from those who claim to be ‘leaders’ in the public arena — “everytime they open their mouths, STUPID falls out.’ — We’ve already won — simply continue to seek and speak the truth and be prepared to cite the ORIGINAL source they can check out for themselves (they won’t, they’re probably too lazy – those that DO — there’s hope for) — Defending one’s position is EASY when an OPINION is stated as such (agree to disagree) – but where FACTS are REQUIRED — present them correctly and the ‘opinion’ part is easily seen… One cannot DEBUNK ‘opinions.’

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  • MCDAVE
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 8:49pm

    A true leader unites his people .. Obama seeks his supporters by exploiting the darker side of human nature …President deceiver.. He is unfit to serve as the leader of anything.

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  • momrules
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 8:14pm

    Beck asks if either Romney or Obama fit the bill as a leader………….No.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 9:50pm

      You are correct, Momrules. But now that Romney has picked Ryan doesn’t make you feel a lot better about his potential leadership? Not!

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  • ModerationIsBest
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 8:14pm

    Beck’s already had one “historian” turn all of our founding fathers into fundamentalist Christians who
    wanted a country ruled on Biblical law. Why doesn’t he just find another “historian” and turn Moses into a Mormon?

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    • Steelhead
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 8:42pm

      if they could find Moses bones , believe me ,they would want to baptize him

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    • Conservative Voice
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 9:11pm

      for the record Steelhead, Mormons wouldn’t baptize Moses as they believe they belong to the same church. And they don’t dig up bones to baptize for the dead, all that is required is gender and name. Its a proxy baptism…and if you believe its hog wash, well then there shouldn’t be a fuss…just a “funny” ritual that people “waste” their time doing

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 9:43pm

      Yo Steelhead:

      And that is exactly why God took Moses at his death … so no one could find him and worship the created.

      Interesting how arrogance actually speaks the truth against itself …

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 9:53pm

      Yo Mod:

      So you like where we are?

      We could use a few righteous God fearing men as leader servents. We would be the better for it, unless of course you like to have some moderation of sin still about. Problem is evil doesn’t know moderation and is not satisfied with a little.
      No wonder you believe lies about the death of Jesus on the cross … the truth does not suit your purpose does it.

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    • loneindividual
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:49am

      Moderation/Sacrifice/Compromise of Truth, Virtue, Righteousness, Strength IS EVIL.

      If there is a God, there is only 1 right way to live. If there is no God, there is no way to live.

      When will all of you realize you are beset with lies and encompassed by darkness?

      In the end…just plan on being sacrificed…just don’t sacrifice others.

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 9:48am

      @4TRUTH2ALL

      You first have to prove that something called “sin” actually exists.

      “believe the lies”

      If you’ve seen me post on here at all, you know I don’t “believe” anything. I think about everything and I haven’t seen sufficient evidence to think that anybody died on the cross for “my sins” and even if it were true, I would have to say that I didn’t ask for that sacrifice and would have been forced to try and stop it. I don’t need a scapegoat.

      @Lone
      All I heard there was a bunch of babbling.

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 1:52pm

      Did somebody say scape goat?

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 5:11pm

      Yo Mod:

      I would ask if you were serious concerning your reply, but I do believe you actully are …
      Do you follow the news ?
      If someone murders somebody is it just there bad

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