Ex-Muslim Author: Koran Demands ‘Jihad’ & Teaches Believers to ‘Hate’ Christians and Jews
- Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:10pm by
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Al Fadi, a Saudi native now living in America, is setting out to educate the West about his former religion — Islam. His message, rooted in what he says are deep convictions and personal truth, is sure to inspire controversy.
Al Fadi converted to Christianity after coming to the United States for college. While he claims that he initially planned to convert everyone he met to Islam, something completely unexpected happened. After meeting Christians for the first time in his life, al Fadi became enamored. He explained his conversion to CBN’s Erick Stakelbeck:
“Basically, the more I met people who follow Christ, the more I realized that they are distinct and unique in their character. They’re kind, they’re patient, they’re loving, they have moral values, they don’t look at others with hatred.”
Before long, he abandoned Islam, leaving him to embrace Jesus Christ. His conversion, alone, would have led to a death sentence in his homeland. Even now, danger isn’t an impossibility (al Fadi is actually a pseudonym). But regardless of the dangers he faces for sharing his truth, he says that it’s worth it.
Now, al Fadi is making it a mission to correct what he says are the West’s misconceptions about Islam. In an interview with CBN, he explained, in detail, his interpretation of Islam and those who are not Muslims:
“When I lived in Saudi Arabia, not only did I look at non-Muslims as second class, you would look at non-devout Muslims as second class citizens.
If Islam has to prosper, be the superior religion, then certain steps must be taken by its followers, including spreading Islam at any cost, including the sword and killing any opposition.
So you learn all of these things and then of course you learn that the Koran tells you to hate the Christians and the Jews.”
It is these messages that al Fadi desperately wants Americans, among other Westerners, to better understand. To address these issues, he has written a book called ‘The Qur’an Dilemma.”
In particular, he believes that the West has been fed a more favorable, less volatile picture of Islam in its entirety. One subject he covers in-depth is the Koran’s call for jihad, or “holy” war, against non-believers.
“It is basically a proscriptive demand found in the Koran when it comes to jihad – killing the infidels, spreading Islam until there is no other religion on earth except the religion of Allah,” he explains.
Al Fadi believes that the more positive images the West is fed come from the Prophet Mohammed’s early career. It was later, he says, when Mohammed gained followers and political might, that he became more violent.
Of course, these are al Fadi’s own, personal views — views that many people would see as intolerant and wrong-headed. But considering his Muslim upbringing, he sees himself as the perfect person to address these topics.
Below, watch him discuss both his book and his views on the Islamic faith with CBN:
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Comments (176)
whatthecrazy
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:59pmUnless they convert to christianity i will not trust them and in some of those cases i would be very cautious because they are trained to be decievers………I think that if they want to stay muslims they should be asked to leave and go where they can worship a murdering child molester for the rest of thier lives if they want.We dont need thier kind here and if we are smart we would pressure our government when we get a new president in 2012 to start removing all foriegners who do not pledge allegience to the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA……………….
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:20pmOprah & Glenn are neither Christian nor Jew, they’re safe from Jihad.
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:24pmThe fact that Islam is a religion of evil is not a newsflash. This world will not be safe, until Islam and all the filthy Muslim followers of it’s evil are utterly destroyed.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:27pmI posted before that Islam was not always violent. It was prior to the conquering of the Knights Templar that the Koran was altered to it’s current form. Until it is restored to it’s original text, well, they might have a difficult time defending the views of Sharia Law.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:53pm@Jhaydeng
Well there‘s a new bit of fake history I hadn’t heard before. Thanks for broadening my knowledge of the wacko world.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:47pmPoverty;
“Oprah & Glenn are neither Christian nor Jew, they’re safe from Jihad.”
If Glenn’s not a christian then he sure does do a lot of good Christian works.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:59pmBeing Christian is doing works in the name of Jesus Christ. Glenn Beck works extremely hard to avoid that. Becks courage in Israel perfectly proved my point.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:02pmjhaydeng
Wow! what a glorious piece of BS.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:18pmIt’s easy to be a Christian. Follow the bouncing ball!
http://www.PeaceWithGod.Jesus.Net
Deny Christ, and the sea of Fire will have you.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:37pm@Darren – You do it Glenns way. I’ll do it Gods way, which is through Jesus Christ, and we’ll see who gets to Heaven. On you mark, get set, GO!
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:22pmGOD changed Saul to Paul…Why not AL Fadi to Christian….Jesus knows his heart.
Report Post »brian8793
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:26pmMan, you people are freaking morons, and bigotted, and probably fat. Glenn isn’t a Christian, but you are? BWAHAHAHA.
Anybody can believe in WHATEVER THE HECK they want, and you will NOT take that away, son. Understand?
Worry about your own WACKED OUT RELIGION
Report Post »brian8793
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:28pmTXPILOT, you’re not going to destroy anything accept maybe a double-cheeseburger. Your tough guy talk doesn’t impress anybody. I have many Muslim friends here in Arizona, and I gaurantee you or anyone else will not lay a finger on them.
Report Post »brian8793
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:32pmHey POVERTY, you’re a moron. If there is a Christ, then I imagine he HATES YOUR GUTS. You think he wants you threatening people and damning others?
You’re ignorrant, white trash. I bet your yard is a mess, and I bet your family is a mess. I don’t feel any sort of “love” when I listen to your words. If you think Glenn Beck and Oprah are going to hell, then wouldn’t a Christian FEEL SORRY FOR THEM?
DEET DE DEEE!
Report Post »Darren
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 12:48amPoverty Sux;
Jesu Christ is Glenn Beck’s Lord and Savior. Perhaps you are capable n executing perfect judgement upon others and declare them as not being Christian; but I feel entirely inadequate in doing any such thing. I‘ll let God judge an individual’s Christianity.
I’m in no race agaist you to get to heaven. Perhpas if you’re so quick and anxious to get there you can build a tower to get there quicker and easier. Of course, that didn’t work out too well the last time that was tried.
Just be steadfast and do good works yourself and glorify you Father who is in heaven. I think that’s all you need to worry about.
Report Post »NuffSaid
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 5:37amGuys sounds credible. But I’d rather convert muz to human by reading from the Bible
Chapter M- verse 16
Report Post »rogerisi
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 7:44ampoverty.sucks
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:20pm
Oprah & Glenn are neither Christian nor Jew, they’re safe from Jihad.
Poverty.sucks, actually you are wrong about Glenn. Glenn is a Mormon and according to Mormon theology, they are Pantheists which fits in the category of Shirk according to Islam. This is worse than Christians and Jews to have many gods. In fact, when my wife was younger, she lived in Saudi with her father who worked for Aramco. The Saudi’s recognized Mormons were idolaters practicing shirk and would not let them meet at the local schools on the Aramco oil compounds. However, they let the foreigners have a Catholic and Protestant church as they recognized them as closest to Islam.
Just trying to st the record straight.
Report Post »youmeanwags
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 8:45amOur lapse away from Christian education (i.e., Sunday school and church) has resulted in our youth not being able to identify what (e.g., “flash mobs” and looting), and has allowed the current Soros-Obama White House to set us on a course towards a socialistic Orwellian “Open Society” from which we may never recover.
As Christians, the best thing we can do for our nation is to move us back to Christian values by sharing the beauty of Christ’s message with others–this is the very thing that helped turned the heart of the author in the article above. I’d urge you to share the following link with your atheist/agnostic/Muslim friends. It is a very non-threatening way to learn more about Jesus.
http://www.TestDriveJesus.com
Report Post »Darren
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 9:20amRogerisi;
If this is an accurate description of pantheism (link below), “Pantheism is the view that the Universe (Nature) and God (or divinity) are identical.[1] Pantheists thus do not believe in a personal, anthropomorphic or creator god” then your declaration that Mormons are pantheists could not be further from the truth. In fact, traditional Christian creeds are far removed from God being anthromorphic; but not Mormonism (nor the Bible for that matter). Traditional Christians, however, do indeed believe in a creator God and Mormonism is no different.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism
Report Post »handsmcml
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 9:29amHay Poverty.Sucks, Only Christians and Jews (people of the book) are offered the chance to convert. Everyone else is just to be killed. Allah, through Mohammed, tells us that he has created people just to fill up his hell, and you can go to his heaven by killing others.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 9:31ambrian8793
Look everyone. Another troll……..
Report Post »waggie
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 12:14pmI admire this man’s courage to stand up for Jesus Christ and Christianity. I hope he has plenty of life insurance.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 1:27pm@Darren – My faith is all I need. I don‘t hesitate to point out someone who’s grandstanding to be a Christian and purposefully avoids appreciation to Christ, then his groupies such as yourself call him a christian. Your unbelief in the Gospel is a conscience choice to be deceived.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:51pmPoverty Sux;
I’m no Glenn Beck groupie. I crticize him when I see needed. Glenn hasd faith inJesus Christ, I have faith in Jesus Christ. Period. To me and Glenn Beck, Jesus is the Son of God and the only name under heaven by which man may be saved. You may believe that faith alone saves but I (and I highly presume Beck) believe that faith without works is dead and therefore you should be good before God. That is hardly a reason to say I and Glenn are Christian.
I do not question your Christianity. First, I’ve no personal need to. Second, I do not presume to judge your faith; but ot let God and God alone judge it. Third, both you and I believe in Jesus Christ being the only name under heaven by which man may be saved. So debating who is Christian and who is not is futile and pointless.
Report Post »Junter
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:30pmpoverty.sucks, neither are Muslim so no they are not safe.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 7:52pm@Darren – Please, provide the numerous transcripts where Glenn Beck made gives glory to Jesus Christ. Begin with since Israel, during Israel, and withing the last 2 years. Please provide them ALL. All his works without glory to Jesus Christ is worthless.
Report Post »Alice111
Posted on September 15, 2011 at 11:31pmAgreed. I know one who converted, but he uses the same buzz phrases that Tariq Ramadan uses. Maybe he needs to for his Muslim audience, but when he would not explain it to me–along with other inconsistencies in his story—it made me suspicious. I hope he isn’t taking his church for a ride as he keeps depleting the food pantry and all…
Report Post »MyzPhoenyx
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:57pmGet a Koran, educate yourselves. Stop asking what their horrifying “holy book” says and read it for yourselves. Any good person reading that trash would be sickened by it. I’d recommend that any Christians that do this, keep your Bible close and only read the koran in short bursts. Anyone that tries to tell me that islam is loving and peaceful, I refer them to the writings of their beloved perv “prophet”. More like a demon possessed, mentally ill baboon flinging feces at the zoo visitors than any kind of spiritual leader.
Report Post »chaberthy
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:19pm@MYZPHOENYX
Report Post »Yeah, check out Ann Barnhardt at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riSJcZC89Hc
This lady has guts, but she speaks the truth! Take a STAND folks!
NuffSaid
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 5:43amGreat image!
Report Post »FearlessInfedel62
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 1:15pmI agree, Glenn always says, Question with boldness and seek the truth. If all of us take the time to learn the facts, the more immune we shall be, to the poison of lies.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:57pmTell it to the Fogel family.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:04pmAnd, I apologize to all the other innocent Israeli’s murdered, whose names I don’t remember.
Report Post »pavepaws
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:54pmSeems like an intelligent person. If he is for real he should watch his back.
Report Post »Charlie Justice
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:51pmTell us something we didn’t learn on 9 11 2001.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:06pmtell that to a Libturd
Report Post »Steve
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:15pmyou’d be suprised of the ingorance from some on this site that still feel Islam is not a danger
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:55pmTell that to Glenn. He still thinks the Islamo-fascists are TWISTING Islam.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:33pmIsles,
That’s because he has a Muslim friend who has either sold him that lie or believes it himself. Still, you have to be blind not to see it. Muhammad’s actions speak louder than words.
I guess darkness begets darkness. We need to pray for Glenn. We owe him that much.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:48pmIn other words, if a whole nation can be taught to hate by one leader, imagine being taught to hate by a religion.
Report Post »MaxineH20Sux
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:07pmtoo bad it isn’t a religion. It is an ideology. They hide behind the veil of religion.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:47pm@OKIE..don’t know if you have been keeping up. Have you noticed that good ole “ROSE ELLEN hasn’t been posting much as of late? ROSE purports to be a sweet little Catholic girl who voracioulsy defends Islam saying we are murderers of poor innocent men, women and children. Rose Ellen quotes Obamas minister Reverand Wright in “America’s chickens hve come home to roost, and Rose Ellen likes President Jimmy Carter. Not only does Rose Ellen have a Catholic background, but a thorough background in Islam. Barack Hussein also has an Islamic background being sired by a political radical muslim and being rasied by one. But also aside from attending a Madrasah in Indonesia, attended a the Catholic school..St Francis of Assisi. So Rose and Barack also have that in common. I started researching the connection between Catholicism and Islam. There is one. See on youtube. As for Catholics being Chistians..I have always considered them as such but most don’t seem to consider themselves such. They use Mary as their intercessor, and I believe there is a correlation with Islam on this aspect. We know that Jesus is the only intercessor. There are other things but I got distracted. i think this could be big for that Zech 12, 13 , 14
Report Post »Steve
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:59pmMaxineH20Sux
If only all of us could understand this.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 12:08am@AshestoAshes
Howdy friend.
John Paul actually kissed the Quran and there is a picture of it.
I am sure many Catholics love a Jesus, as you and I. The leadership of Catholics are evil. There are even pictures of Nazi’s and the Popes being friends, visiting and working together. Google it.
It is not coincidence the Papal reign, when head of Church and State, that lasted 1260 years (42 months) where 100 million who did not bow to Pope were burned, beheaded, and murdered. Then received a head wound (taken from power Napolean/Islam). The head wound healed when Lateran Treaty made the Vatican a State/Church once again.
Woman=Church
Beast=Nation
Woman riding beast is Church/State together.
Every Protestant leader declared the Catholic Church the Anti-Christ. Wrote in every preface and even used in Bible.
Today, every USA Church mimics, or is an IMAGE as the Catholic Church. The same Church speaks, legislates thru Government, and all worship it. I could go on and show younverse after verse after verse proving these points.
Read that link below. It’s a Jesuits on words.
You still must wonder, why Islam hasn’t attacked the Vatican. That makes zero sense.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 12:21am@FREE@SPEAKRN I don’t believe for one moment that OKIE hates Catholics. But the history of the church leaves something to be desired. Was it the crusades where Catholics burned millions of bibles and killed millions of Chistians Protestants not to mention American Indians who would not convert. If you go to Okie’s link, you will see how the Catholic Church spawned Islam. Evil has spawned from the top echelons. I know quite a few wonderful Catholic people. But Jesus tells us to go directly to God in His name.Jesus is the only intercessor not Mary. He also says to pray to no graven images nor to the dead and Catholics pray to Saints and confess to a preist and call him Father. We are to call no man Father in that regard but Father God ,and the Priest is not that. I love some of the Catholic people…but the church is full of hypocrosy. It’s worth doing the research yourself. There have been many who have come out of her. Like I said ..I have met wonderful people from there. But God is to whom I have my allegance. It is Him we must obey.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 12:28amHi Okie…thank you for that link. I was actually researching it Sunday, but did not find what you did. I haven‘t had the chance to read it in it’s entirety yet, but plan to take it with me tomorrow and study it. Wow.. this all started coming together for me over Rose Ellen. One of my friends goes to a church and they believe that the Pope will be the one to sit in the Temple as the false Messiah. I had read a book on it years ago… but thought that the church had evolved out of that. It makes perfect since. Have a good night Okie. Blessings and all the best.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 12:39amCatholic priest Michael Manning was interviewed by Larry King on December 1, 2001. King, who is a Jew, asked, “Now Father, if you don’t believe in Christ when you die, are you going to hell?” Manning replied: “No, not at all. It’s the Catholic belief that Jesus is the source of salvation, Jesus is God; we believe that. But what [do] we say to the millions and billions of people who don’t even know about Jesus, are they just thrown into hell? Or what about a Rabbi who really follows the Lord as best he can? As a Catholic, I’m very comfortable that he attains salvation by doing this.” King then asked, “So he achieves it without believing in Christ?” Manning replied, “Correct.” King asked, “[H]ow do you view Mohammed?” Manning replied: “As a very wise man. I see the beauty of Islam in a very strong way. A simple approach to God. . I’m very touched by Ramadan, by the fasting; the beautiful presence of God and the power of God. And as a Catholic, I need
to learn from that.”
VATICAN CITY, NOV. 30, 2005 (Zenit.org).- Whoever seeks peace and the good of the community with a pure conscience, and keeps alive the desire for the transcendent, will be saved even if he lacks biblical faith, says Benedict XVI.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 12:56amWhen asked about… ”Liberation theology.” Ratzinger said.. “The ‘absolute good’ (and this means building a just socialist society) becomes the moral norm that justifies everything else, including–if necessary–violence, homicide, mendacity.” Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger ~ US News & World Report, Dec 2, 1985
@Ashes to Ashes
I hate no one. Thank you for my defense. If I did hate “Catholics” I wouldn’t be spreading the love of Truth to them to come out of her.
If one truly opens their minds and does research one will find truth and a truth not talked about much.
I truly believe we will soon see Islam be quelled down by the USA (2nd Beast) and the Pope declare all worship thru him, including Islam. Keep up your search for truth. Keep the faith! Laters my friend.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:45pmWhy hasn’t Islam attacked the Vatican, home of what Catholics call the leader of Christians, if Islam hates “Christians” so much? Rome isn’t that far for them to travel……Seems odd doesn’t it……
Islam began with Mohammad who married a wealthy Catholic, who’s family and friends helped create the Quran, and was to turn the people against the Jews and those believing in the Bible and not the Pope and all of it for Jerusalem. Notice how Islam and Catholics worship Mary, rosary beads, repetitive prayer……
The rift between the Pope and Islam is occurred when Islam captured Jerusalem and would not hand it over to the Pope. The Pope then issued crusades.
Islam rose and helped bring down Pagan Rome. Woe 1
Islam rose and helped bring down Papal Rome. Woe 2
Islam has risen and is breaking us financially. Woe 3
The only people who want Jerusealm are people who deny Jesus as Christ. Muslim, Jew, Pope followers. All are anti-Christ.
So again, why isn’t Islam attacking Rome and the Pope if the Pope is head of “Christians”?
Americans who believe in Jesus, DO NOT BE A PART OF THIS.
http://www.remnantofgod.org/books/docs/How-the-Vatican-Created-Islam.pdf
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:49pmMaybe Satan knows the Catholic church (and I’m NOT saying Catholics) are no threat to him. There are Catholics who are saved, just like there are Baptists (professing) that aren’t. But the church as a whole may be no threat to Satan, while Christians are. The Koran is supposedly full of contradictions (thus the if there’s a conflict, take the later passage), while, if taken in context, the Bible doesn’t contradict itself.
Report Post »Free2speakRN
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:06pmOkie, Man! Another Catholic-Hater. Just what the world needs. Catholic-Haters long for any information, true ‘or’ false to believe and inflame their hate. I’m Roman Catholic. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. It is through Him Alone that any one is saved, who is saved. Jesus Christ is the ‘Only One’ we worship and adore. It is He who Who we agree in. It is He in Whom we love each other. It is He Who brings Christians to ‘love their brother as themselves’. It is He Who is the Beginning and the End. The apostles were upset because others were :
Mark 9:
38 – John said to him, “Teacher, we saw someone driving out demons in your name, and we tried to prevent him because he does not follow us.”
39 -Jesus replied, “Do not prevent him. There is no one who performs a mighty deed in my name who can at the same time speak ill of me.
40 -For whoever is not against us is for us.
This is nothing else than Love Itself applied. Some people are easy to love. Some take a ‘sheer determination of the will’. No? Okie, I certainly don’t condemn you. For one, it is against Catholic Christian teaching. Ah… I am free to love. Even those who hate me. True Freedom! Soften your heart, man.
On Islam Radicals:
Report Post »11 Besides,” the LORD’S messenger said to her: “You are now pregnant and shall bear a son; you shall name him Ishmael, For the LORD has hear
Free2speakRN
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:17pmContinued:
On Islam Radicals:
11 Besides,” the LORD’S messenger said to her: “You are now pregnant and shall bear a son; you shall name him Ishmael, For the LORD has heard you, God has answered you.
Report Post »12 He shall be a wild ass of a man, his hand against everyone, and everyone’s hand against him; In opposition to all his kin shall he encamp.”
Free2speakRN
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:22pmOn Islam Radicals:
Report Post »11 Besides,” the LORD’S messenger said to her: “You are now pregnant and shall bear a son; you shall name him Ishmael, For the LORD has heard you, God has answered you.
12 He shall be a wild ass of a man, his hand against everyone, and everyone’s hand against him; In opposition to all his kin shall he encamp.”
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:53pm@Free2Speak
You assume I hate Catholics? That’s a false assumption.
Does the Pope proclaim to be Christ on Earth? YES. Do you deny this? If so I’ll provide you many quotes.
If Jesus is your Savior, you know anyone proclaiming to be Christ is a liar and a false prophet, not of God.
The Catholic leadership changed God’s commandments, did it not? Proclaiming the Pope has authority of God’s law and change how they see fit. Would you like the quotes of the Popes themselves?
Papal Rome slaughtered 100 millions of believers who did not bow to the Pope in a 1260 year period. Did you know hear John Paul admit this himself. I’ll provide the quotes if you like in their words.
The Club of Rome, political arm of Vatican, issued Agenda 21, divided the World into ten kingdoms and pretty much pushes every agenda and influences the USA. Clubofrome.com
Every leader of the Protestant reformation called Roman Catholic the Anti-Christ and was on every preface of every Bible.
Every teaching of the Pope goes directly against God’s words. Would you like the list?
1st Beast Papal Rome
2nd Beast USA
Are you denying Islam began the way told by a former Jesuit? Read his own words.
The Woman (Church) riding the beast (nation) is the Catholic Church. The seven hills the woman sits is Rome.
You can not pray for intercession of the dead, Bible tells you this.
Report Post »The pope can not forgive sin, Bible tells you this.
You are to bow to no one but
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 12:26amPeter not Pope Scriptures
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (Matthew 16:18 KJV)
The only verse used as evidence of Peter being first “Pope” seems firm but does anything else confirm it, no, it shows it falsely taught.
-Paul says their equal; 2 Corinthians 11:5
-Paul censors Peter; Galatians 2:11-16
-Peter is a pillar of Church, not the Pillar. Galatians 2:8-10
-Peter was sent to preach by others; Acts 8
-Peter did not preside the Council of Jerusalem; Acts 15
-Peter refused to have Cornelius kneel to him; Acts 10:25-26
-Peter professes he can’t forgive sin, like popes today; Acts 8:22
-Peter says he’s a pastor or elder; I Peter 5: 1-3.
I could continue if you’d like.
Report Post »Free2speakRN
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 1:45amOkie, Then improve your rhetoric… I‘t don’t sound like ya luv us. Some of my closest buddies are fundamentalist Christians. We’ve gone over everything, except the Jesuit thing, when we’ve gotten together over the last 15 years. We‘ve gone to each others’ churches. And we are ‘locked in Christ together’, and we all know it. After years of being friends, we are even closer, because of Christ. They were once extremely Anti-Catholic. Now, they aren’t. They haven’t changed to become Catholics, but they understand and agree with a lot more. But it’s through Jesus.
Report Post »The Jesuit thing…..I‘m suppose to believe what he said is true because he’s a Jesuit?! No Way. I trust the teachings of the Church, not the history of the different people with their hypocracies. That is what led to the Reformation. After the first split, Soon came another, another, and another, and to what, about 30,000 churches today, all claiming they’re the right one? Being Christian is the point! To love one another as Christ loves us, is the point! St. Therese wondered, “How can I do this, to be able to love this much.” Then it came to her that it was ‘Jesus’ Who is doing the loving in us.
Why is it you are very frustrated, yet I’m at peace. You really want to find out more on the Catholic teachings? What they really are? Look up Scott Hahn on EWTN. Once extremely Anti-Catholic, now maybe the ‘best english speaking Catholic Apologist today. I’ll let him tell you what I think. Peace
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 1:28pm@Free2Speak
I’ll speak as I feel like speaking. If it upsets you maybe it isn‘t how I speak but the truth being told to you and God’s Holy Spirit convicting you to come out of the beast. Something to ponder….
No can do man. Anyone preaching the opposite of God’s Word, the BIBLE, is NOT of GOD. That comes strait from the BIBLE. If you have a problem with that, you have a problem with God.
It is your choice, continue being a part of a Church that teaches opposite of God, or leave it for one that teaches the truth. You will be held accountable with what you choose. Have a great day.
Oh, and if you would like more quotes of the Popes, instead of a Jesuit who works for the Popes, I’ll post them like I did above. Peace out!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:02pm@Free2Speak
What led to the reformation was your Popes charging for “forgiveness”….What led to the reformation was your Popes slaughtering people who didn’t bow to them. What led to the reformation was your Popes declaring to be God, Christ on Earth, just as they do today.
Truth is truth, whether you like it or not.
Report Post »Free2speakRN
Posted on September 16, 2011 at 1:57am(sigh)…..Okie. Just follow Jesus. He is our common denominator. That is all I’m saying to you. To rest in His Heart, let Him rest in yours. You are troubled about many things. Only one thing is necessary. Trust in Jesus. Listen to ashestoashes. It sounds like she has some similar views as you. But in her, I sense a kind heart. I don’t doubt your faith, but I feel her Christian Love. And I say to all, just stay with Christ Who Is Love. Christians are known by ‘the way they love one another’. We should all at least look to Jesus together as Christians. Let us all pray for each other to the Father through the Son. Okay? I‘m going to say just one thing and then I’m through unless you need me for something. Millions of Bibles burned… Does anyone know that back then it took ‘an artisan’ a good two years to make ‘one’ Bible? That aside, may we all see Christ in each other, and act like it. Peace of God, pervade our minds and hearts. Amen
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:44pmTry going to China, and China doesn’t even have a book on the subject.
Report Post »Infidel49
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:00pmBye bye
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:24pmA word of advice to SFTT: I have spent almost 50 years working all over the world. This is one of maybe 6 countries that you can speak your mind. If you go to China and start shooting off your mouth, they will politely invite you to either shut up or leave the first time. The next time……. you will disappear. You may make fun of my words, as some trolls do on this board, but listen close and pay attention….. you will disappear. I spent a lot of years dealing with these people in Asia and the middle East, they don’t play. And, if you go there and just stir things a little……….. that’s all it takes.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:48pmWord of advice hardwood: Don’t go to any third world country and say anything unless God tells them to.
Report Post »teapartyconservatism
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:42pmOur enemy is religiously motivated. We can keep killing them as if the war is a continuation of the crusades, but it’s exceedingly costly and difficult if not impossible, for militarism to kill a religion.
Angel Gabriel, God’s messenger who appeared to the Virgin Mary, is revered in Islam for imparting the Koran to Muhammad in 610 AD. Islam however, has yet to undergo a modern reformation. A revised Koran would no doubt reinforce timeless universal religious tenets of tolerance and peace, while removing outdated dictates sanctioning oppression and violence. Such dangerous obsolescence, metaphoric or not, can only misguide modern Muslims into misery and conflict.
Given it’s origin, the Koran should be similarly modernized as the New Testament was by Christians, so Muslims might live a better life of enlightened reverence for peace and service, not servitude. A revised Koran, once globally distributed, would encourage a peaceful spiritual life resplendent with prosperous positive purpose, as opposed to perpetuating intolerance, oppression and violence.
Devoutness must no longer be misconstrued to sanction oppression and violence, be it directed at one person, one group or an entire populace. Tyrannical insularity must be replaced by respect for humanity “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” as justly deserved and equally desired by all.
Report Post »Infidel49
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:02pmAdvice from the clueless.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:04pmIf those days were not cut short no flesh be saved. God can only save the world from destroying itself at this point. We cannot kill them all, you are correct…so where does it end…? It ends with God destroying these nations and setting up his own government here on earth and no more War shall prosper here. Amen.
Report Post »Halo9x
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:50pmObviously, you know nothing about the New Testament! It has never been “Reformed”. There is no need to “reform” it. Jesus never taught violence and neither did the early church! As Europe faced invasion by Islam, it did fight back in addition to the Crusades. The Crusades are not the finest hour of the thinking of the time but given the nature of Islam, it might be understandable. The only thing Christians are to “hate” is sin, not the sinner! Muslims have been taught a lie and have believed a lie from the Father of Lies, satan.
Report Post »spirited
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:10pm“Koran should be similarly modernized as the New Testament was by Christians”
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1. How can the Koran be “modernized” ?
They (Muslims) believe it is THE WORD (literally) –from Allah to the unmentionable, via Gabriell.
2. The New Testament is of the life of Jesus; as in, Torah = Old Testament (before Jesus Christ).
Interesting that Muslims are being called Moderate Muslims, while Christians are called Christians. The crazies (like the ones who stand outside abortion clinics with a gun) are called fundamentalists.
>As in mental?
Report Post »Steve
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:09pmteapartyconservatism
Will only happen when pigs fly.
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Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:13pm@ ChiefGeorge
Report Post »Cynical, yet we do live in interesting times.
teapartyconservatism
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:16pm@ Halo9x
Report Post »Perhaps my intent to contrast the old testament with the new, was not clear. Thanks.
teapartyconservatism
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:17pm@ spirited
The Koran must be revised to keep pace with modern civilization by the religious leaders responsible for it’s interpretation within the culture it serves or if need be, by the culture it offends.
Ideally, Islamic culture will soon demonstrate a capacity for enlightened introspection and self correction. Failing that, any such aggressive culture not militarily dominant and/or self sufficient, which refuses to accept minimal religious and cultural modernization to keep pace with the peaceful more powerful cultures it seeks to conquer, will face one of two choices.
Wisely they can peacefully adapt to the minimal demands placed upon them by the more powerful culture, which will otherwise gladly drag them kicking and screaming out of the dark ages of violence and repression into modern civilization. Failing that, if they unwisely choose to continue threatening the dominant rival culture, the necessity for self defense will justify their inevitable annihilation.
The juxtaposition of ‘moderate Muslims’ with truly reformed Christianity is curious. Much like Judaism, Christians want to live in peace when possible but will surely prevail when not.
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:42pmNow, after viewing the video, and assuming the quoted chapters and verse taken from the Koran are correct, ISLAM NEEDS TO BE SENT PACKING! Outlaw the Koran and the Muslim religion for what it apparently is: A CULT OF VIOLENCE.
Report Post »Banter
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:47pmislam is a cult of death, not a religion. allah is satan. Political correctness is killing this country, and sharia law can never be allowed to exist in this country (yea, we are looking at you dearborn and detroit.)
Report Post »Steve
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:18pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY&feature=fvwrel
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:34pmThe only ones who do not understand the religion of Islam and its teachings are the liberal dopes in Europe and other western cultures.
Report Post »The goal is world domination ruled by sharia law – to accomplish this goal anything and everything is permitted. (even water-boarding) sarc
Just like other religions =- there are those who are fervent followers and not so fervent.
for the most part thankfully the US muslims are seemingly moderate – thank you second amendment!!
heavyduty
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:32pmSo who do you believe? Is the Koran violent or not? I guess it‘s up to the Muslim that’s reading it. So until they can decide which it is. Then I say that we send all Muslims back home. Either that or they denounce the Koran and become Christian.
Report Post »TunaBlue
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:46pmAbsolutely! Screw the 1st Amendment and all those who died for the pasta 230 years to ensure those rights. Let’s send them home, even those who were born here. Oh, wait, that doesn’t make sense. Actually, it’s pathetically stupid, and very poor logic. What now, knucklehead?
Report Post »Patriot Z
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:16pmturnsablue. freedom of religion dosent include killing thoes that do not believe in it, which is what islam seeks. next its also not a pretext to ignore obvious and potentially dangerous signs. how many have to die before we are constitutionally allowed to fight back? our contry was not founded on the constitution but the decalaration of independance and the beliefe systems that inspires. islam seeks to destroy that and replace it with slavery or death. do you not understand that part? we suspend, and we fight we will bring it back. they kill us then the spirit America was founded on dies forever. they want exactly the opposite of what America wishes. dont be so foolish as to let the obviously dangerous enemy use your own rules against you. and dont confuse indecision and lack of testicular fortitude with nobility or respect for rights. they will kill you dont doubt that for a second
Report Post »Patriot Z
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:25pmturnablue. they didnt die 230 yrs ago to create a suicide pact either. common sense tells you that Muslims are seeking to destroy the united states of America and enslave or kill everyone in it. should we let them becaus ethe constitutions says so? so if someone is leading cops on a high speed persuit the cops can only go 65 mph cause the law says so? NO. what do you suggest? *BLEEP* the constitution! i stand with the Declaration of Independance! i stand with the idea that under god and nature I have the right to defend myself. dont confuse a lack of testicular fortitude with the idea that you are nobley protecting liberty. The founding fathers would be kicking muslim butt quicker than anyone.islam wants your conversion, enslavement or death, which do you choose? which does the constitution or bill of rights choose whats a good compromise for you?.
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:30pmIs there any way for Muslims, perhaps at least here in the US, to release a “New Testament” Koran that removes all of the hate and holy war nonsense, that is what is needed, a Koran that removes this and allows a new generation of Muslims to observe their faith without all of the killing and hatred.
Report Post »TunaBlue
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:40pmSure, and we can dump the Old Testament and re-write the things we don’t like out of the Christian Bible as well.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:46pmFirst, I just skimmed this article, so I don’t know if it was mentioned or not….but, the way I understand it is the early writings in the Koran are the non-violent ones. It’s the newer ones that are the violent ones. It’s almost like mohammed descended into some sort of psychosis, or his god left him. But, the Koran says if there’s a dispute, you are supposed to follow the newer passage. That’s why there are some that claim Islam is peaceful. They only consider the older passages.
Making someone convert to Christianity to be a citizen is the same as threatening someone so they convert to Islam. It goes against our constitution.
Report Post »Seede
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:51pmWould that add to the entire confusion of these sick minds? They have Jesus the same as everyone has knowledge of Jesus. If you change their book you then change the entire meaning of being a Muslim. Let them come to Christ the same as all people must come to Him. If they cannot believe in Moses they can’t believe in Jesus because Moses wrote of Jesus and Christ Jesus spoke of Moses. There is no other name given unto men than the name of Jesus and we cannot appease men with a false book which honors Muhammad. That would be double minded.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:02pmThey need to be brought to the saving grace of Jesus Christ. They have a goal and that is to become the one world religion for Allah. Thay have yet to realize that theirs is a false religion, created and constructed for the manuipulation of a people for greed and power. They have no God to go to except for the Living God of the Christians and the Jews. There were 6 million coming into the true Grace of God back in 2001. Wallid Shoebat.. a former PLO terrorist turned Christian was on God’s Learning Channel in 2008, desperately trying to warn us about what was in store for us. The true God has His own among them..for His laws are written upon their hearts and they will hear when He calls their name. Glory be to God.
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:31pmI don’t care how you rewrite the Koran; the Imams will interpret the way they want it to be. It is not really what is written there, it is how they selectively beat parts of it into the young skulls full of mush in their Madras schools. The conflict between infidels and Muslims is, unfortunately, a fight to the death. Sugar coat what ever you want with kissy, kissy quotes but the fact is, if you don’t convert, they want to kill you.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:19pmBut, I like all of the Holy Bible – King James Version . And, if you don’t why King James – That knowledge takes revelation or years of experience.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:17pmloriann12
It’s called naskh.(aborgagtion)
http://www.mostmerciful.com/abrogation-and-substitution.htm
Report Post »Mike Benton
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:29pmYou can go to Amazon and for ten bucks you can buy a Koran and see for your self!
I did it after 9/11/01 and it scared the hell out of me. By the middle of the book you learn it is OK to beat your wife as a way to get her to behave; you learn you (as a Muslim) must never make friends with an infidel (you and me!), and you learn it is OK to kill Jews.
Report Post »It’s all in there, and they teach it an believe it!!!
W@nd@
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:28pmBingo!
Report Post »but i really meant :
B I N G O !
It is sooo good we are finding this out,
like how many people do we have to hear this from
before somebody
believes it..?
I say Thanks for speakin out!
I’m Thankful you have the guts to say it…
now maybe we can have our politicians
clean their ears out and listen up for once!
and Get to work because it means something!
If you SEE something SAY something!
Hello…
this requires leadership to actually LISTEN
Then to ACT!
Does he have to draw you a map?
Fight for America
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:27pmIsn’t there anything in the Koran that says when people following that religion get too full of themselves they have to jump off a cliff because they offended some main rule?
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:26pmThe bottom line question is, what does it say in their book, the Koran? That is the twenty-four thousand dollar question.
Report Post »Tex Expatriate
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:24pmI don’t know what is unusual about this story. Before Islam was Islam, it was Mohammedism, and it was always and is always about violence and hatred. Once there were Sufis, who were Mohammedism’s mystics (similar to Chritianity’s saints) but most of those—if not all of them—have been murdered by Islamic fundamentalists.
For those who do not know the history of Islam, it was established by Mohammed, who claimed he was the next prophet after Jesus. He was in fact a puerile man slowly going insane, whose book, the Koran, was put together by hundreds of scribes who followed him and jotted down his insane mutterings, which became the Koran. There are three distinct periods in his life. During the first he was friendly to Christianity. During the second he became increasingly less friendly to Christianity and all other religions. And in the third he condemned all religions except so-called Islam.
The word Islam, in Arabic, means submission. The word muslim, in Arabic, means one who submits. It is a violent, evil religion and anyone who is a Muslim perpetrates or tolerates evil.
It’s interesting to note that Barack Obama, a born Muslim, has never denied his Muslim heritage. He has claimed to be Christian (does anyone believe that so-called church in Chicago is a Christian church?) but he has never risked apostasy by denying his Muslim heritage.
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:34pmTex, you said it right.
Report Post »ilovepotatoes
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:05pmthanks. Aside from the bias that was somewhat informative. Just imagine what it is like over there. War and bombs and violence and blasts and booms! Submission is probably how a lot of these people were raised and all they know. It sounds like from the founding of the nation of Islam they have been attacked and war is a foundational point of reference for their beliefs.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 1:51am@Tex
Report Post »Spot on! Barack Hussein Obama was born into Islam, and until he openly renounces Islam, thereby officially becoming an apostate, he will continue to be a Muslim. Hussein has never done that, and he never will. In fact, he praises Islam and mocks Christianity every chance he gets.
50stars13stripes
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:22pmAnd the truth shall set you free.
Report Post »randy
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:21pmWhat a very good man
Report Post »loveliberty83
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:20pmamericans need to educate themselves & be on alert for hateful people we lve in a land of free reilgion ths was the basis are constituton menton it because in England you could not practise your own beliefs-it had nothng to do with praying in school
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:18pmThe man saw the light and converted,I hope he has great security because radical muslims don’t like apostates.
Report Post »shirelover
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:18pmWTG Blaze… now his face is splashed ALL over the world… I would have appreciated the article without seeing this person’s face! You just put him in more danger!
Thank you “Al Fadi”, welcome to the faith, God bless you and protect you, may God be gracious to you and give you peace.
Report Post »mlcblog
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:47pmLay off the Blaze. Al Fadi chose to go public himself.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:51pmDid it escape your notice that the man deliberately had himself filmed by CBN? He wants the world to see and hear him.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:15pm“By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.” John 13:35
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:14pmDon’t be too disappointed if this information is not presented when your kid learns about Islam in public school.
Report Post »Tim Law
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:34pmNor will you see it in the MSM or if you do it will be a blip and twisted to the PC of the progressive left. Bless you brother Al Fadi for speaking the truth and trying to warn us of the real dangers.
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