Ex-NY Giant David Tyree Says Gay Marriage Could Lead U.S. Down Path Toward ‘Anarchy’
- Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:39pm by
Billy Hallowell
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Some former Giants players are going rogue and inserting themselves in New York State’s politically-hot gay marriage debate. Most recently, David Tyree, a former wide receiver, has come out strongly against legalizing same-sex marriage.
In a video recording for the National Organization for Marriage, Tyree explains his belief that gay marriage wouldn’t be morally right for America. Though he admits that it is a “strong word” to use, he says the New York bill’s legalization could guide the nation down a path towards “anarchy.” According to TIME’s NewsFeed he believes that legalization would have profound ramifications:
“Marriage is one of those things that is the backbone of society. So if you redefine it, it changes the way we educate our children, it changes the perception of what is good, what is right, what is just.”
Tyree also stands against same-sex adoption. He says:
“…you can‘t teach something that you don’t have. So two men will never be able to show a woman how to be a woman. That’s just, for lack of better terms, common sense.”
You can watch Tyree’s video below:
His anti-gay marriage ad was made in response to former Giants defensive end Michael Strahan’s video pronouncement in support of gay marriage. In Strahan’s video, he says, ”It’s unfair to stop committed couples from getting married.” You can watch his pro-gay marriage public service announcement below:
What do you think? Should pro-athletes be jumping into such a heated social and political debate?
(h/t TIME’s NewsFeed)
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Comments (164)
FoxholeAtheist
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 8:08pmSo if heterosexual marriage mirrors a relationship with god, does that mean god has sex with a female goddess 3 times a week, unless she has a headache? Can god make a headache too painful for even him to cure?
Report Post »Why are so many people so quick to put down what an actor or a sports hero has to say? I would bet money that anyone who posts here would take advantage of these people’s situations if they were given a platform to speak on.
HankScram
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 12:41amMaybe that’s why the Mormon god has multiple wives on planet Kolob. If one has a headache one of the others is ready to make spirits. Sounds better than 72 virgins. Where do I sign up?
Report Post »Sicialian Eyeball
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 8:03pmDavid Tyree. Thumbs up. Hey Patriot fans. You have to love this guy!
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 8:01pmHe speaks the truth. Restore healthy families. Restore relationship with God and with each other. Morality and Character matters in our society, in our businesses, in our homes.
Report Post »wifezilla
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:58pmSo straight people marrying and divorcing multiple times isn’t a problem, but gays who make up less than 5% of the population is going to lead to anarchy? SERIOUSLY?!?! As the child of a dad who as been married 3 times so far, let me give you a hint. It isn’t the gays who are the problem.
Report Post »cmsmik
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:55pmMy experience has always been. The people who yell the loudest about how wrong it is to be gay. Are usually the ones who have something to hide.
Report Post »busterpuddles
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:44pmI really don’t pay much attention to what celebrities say as a rule, but I certainly did not expect THAT from him. I am now a Tyree fan!
Report Post »concealled9mms
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:33pmWhy shouldnt athletes jump in we have to listen to stupid liberal actors dont you like what the athletes are saying
Report Post »avenger
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:31pmit is important because he had the balls to express it.paying taxes has created a wasteland and corruption in the USA because we let the RADICAL MINORITY take over.time for taking back the country now ! http://the912project.com
Report Post »better red than dead
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 8:05pm@AVENGER
Hard to argue that same-sex marriage supporters are a “radical minority” when a variety of polls show more Americans in favor of marriage equality than against it, especially about 65% of the under-30 crowd, according to Gallup. With that kind of support base, same-sex marriage laws are likely to be passed in every state within ~15-20 years.
Report Post »Frustrated
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:19pmAnd why is his opinion important??? You know what, if you pay your taxes and actually contribute to society, you should have equal right and NO I do not care what it says in the bible, I love how people always use THEIR religion to say what is right. Same damn thing the muslims do through reiligion!!! Live and let live, its NOT that hard, just be a good productive, responsible member of society
Report Post »Tree of Liberty
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 2:15pmFrustrated,
The problem with that statement is it leads to total chaos. Would you want adults marrying kids? Or how about marrying pets? Why don’t we just extend all the benefits of marriage to dating couples? I really like my Lord of the Rings DVD collection. Maybe I could marry it? It’s simply ridiculous. For that matter, let’s question every moral law. What’s really wrong with murder? I mean if it doesn’t directly effect me, then it should be ok right? What about stealing, cheating, and lying? I’d like a new Ford Mustang, but can’t afford one. Why can’t I have it? It’s only fair right?
Despite all the pop-culture BS, the nuclear family (a father and a mother) is crucial in raising a child. Personally, I think it’s kind of important that a civilization promote itself. Hey, that’s just me… The stuff you care about- doesn’t really bring a baby into the world now, does it? It doesn’t offer any tangible benefit to society.
Marriage should be removed from state and federal laws/regulations, altogether. You cannot redefine marriage, that’s like redefining any other thing considered holy, It’s simply absurd.
The real truth is, people who support gay “marriage,” aren’t really for gay marriage. They simply have an animus toward Christianity, and want to see its most hallowed institutions torn asunder. It’s the same with abortion. Nobody really thinks killing babies, ending a life, is a good idea. Your problem isn’t with this or
Report Post »Tree of Liberty
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 2:20pmthat- it’s with moral law. It’s with the fabric of civil society, in general.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:14pmHomosexuality and lesbianism are contrary to natural law.This political correctness is destroying our civilization.In nature every species is genetically programmed to strive for survival and procreation of the species.So tell me how homosexuals and lesbians can accomplish this simple task.In nature such aberrations are not able to survive beyond one generation.
Report Post »better red than dead
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 8:00pm@AVENGER
Well, to be honest, homosexuality (which includes lesbianism) is actually found in nature rather frequently in some 1,500 animal species, largely concentrated around mammals and birds, which are some of the more “socially reliant” animals. Though more research needs to be done, there’s a lot of belief that homosexuality works in a sort of “pair-bonding” way to help hold together some of these animal societies. Since it’s so prevalent, and since it doesn’t appear to have disappeared via evolution (it’s quite possible for homosexuality to exist in subsequent generations, a la recessive genes) one could assume it’s somehow helpful for the species.
Report Post »ClockKing
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 10:54amI doubt it’s normal among other species. If that were true, the species would not reproduce enough to sustain themselves.
Report Post »Endurance997
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:07pmGood for him… I believe the more that speak with true hearts the better. It’s an issue that has to be supported by all who believe in true marriage not a warped version.
Report Post »Ohello
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:03pmDavid Tyree for president – sounds like he has at least a few principles. If he tells the truth to people about one topic, maybe he will be truthful on other ones.
Report Post »Cold War Vet
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:01pmI’m a Yankees fan myself, but I’ll give David Tyree this one…
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:59pmYeah, and pigs could fly out of Elton John’s a##.
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:03pmDidn’t Limbaugh pay Elton John 1 Million to play at his wedding, Elton is married and has children
Report Post »jtm
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 12:28pmWhy not? Everything else has.
Report Post »Progressive Wrecking Crew
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:58pmAnd as I’ve said across the entire web on this story, the problem is …? He’s absolutely right.
Report Post »NSWPP
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:57pmYeah, yeah, and the other one is a defensive end.
Report Post »NSWPP
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:55pmHeh heh, heh heh, he’s a wide receiver and against gayity.
Report Post »jungle J
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:54pmwomen and blacks are the only ones allowed to say the truth today.
Report Post »Gashouse Gorilla
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:50pmDavid Tyree makes me proud to be a Giants fan. Strahan, not so much.
Report Post »ireport uderide
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:17pmTyree, you are so much braver than anyone I know in sports. That includes anyone on the Yankees, Mets, Knicks, Jets, ESPN, Fox Sports, Glenn Beck and anyone else that remains indifferent on this subject.
Expect to be crucified. You will know your enemies by the pinch marks on their noses from being led around by the 1 ½ percent of the Homosexual population.
And a big shout out to Mike Strahan for giving me an extra hour on Sundays to do chores around the house before the Seahawk games.
Report Post »Gail_B_Bell
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 8:16pmAt least he is in a profession where there are Zero Homos! Thank God for that!
Report Post »ImaHippyBurning
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:48pmDavid Tyree for President!!!
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:47pmI know Ellen Degeneres and Portia De Rossi call for anarchism on a daily basis
Report Post »better red than dead
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:45pmIn response to the question of whether pro-athletes should jump into debates: certainly. They’re citizens, just like anyone else.
In response to the question of whether gay-marriage will lead to anarchy: of course not. The slippery-slope fallacy is called a fallacy for a reason.
Report Post »Gail_B_Bell
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:22pmYes! Yes! and it will lead to the day when a black one with NO white corpuscles will try running this country!
Report Post »better red than dead
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:50pm@NWSPP
Are you really suggesting that condom usage leads to euthanasia and infanticide? There’s no logical links between these concepts, much less the fact that the United States has yet to see widespread euthanasia and infanticide running amok.
I just fail to see the link people draw between allowing same-sex marriages and the end of the United States, especially when most research has shown that children raised by same-sex couples are just as well-adjusted as any others.
Report Post »I Hear the Wolves
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:45pmWhy not? If actors can do it, athletes should be able to. I mean, I don’t really give a crap what either group thinks in particular, but the 1st Amendment is for everyone, right?
Report Post »AKMIIKEUS
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:07pmYou won’t get the Blazers to agree to that. 1st admendment only applys to certain individuals according to a lot of Blazers.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 10:26pmAkmii… that’s untrue. “Blazers” as you say are certainly for 1st amendment rights, even if we don’t agree with them. That, however, doesn’t mean we have to listen to them.
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 2:20amI want to make a motion that AKMIIKEUS lose his first amendment rights.
Report Post »I’m confident somebody here agrees with me, if what he says is true.
frustratedwithgovt
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:45pmGood for him for standing up for what he believes. I for one agree with him.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:51pmAnd I for one, agree with you.
Report Post »USAMEDIC3008
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:07pmI may start watching football again
Report Post »Locked
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:53pmWell, you realize he’s a former football player, right? ;-)
Report Post »mikeakasleeper
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 9:36pmDitto. He is an American and free to have his opinion. Why then does the media say that his opinion is “shocking” and “controversial.” Honestly, gay marriage isn’t accepted and mainstream and THAT side of the argument should be shocking and controversial. By the media stating that his POV is shocking, they are legitimizing gay marriage as the norm. Which it is not.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:44pmThey are just joining up with the actors, singers, etc who think they should influence social issues! Why leave them out???????
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:52pmIt wont lead us down the path to anarchy, but it is definitely a symptom of it.
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sooner12
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 6:54pmTyree in, Strahan out.
Report Post »Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:02pmPeople who make a a huge amount of money are not qualified to speak for or to me.
That includes actors – sports figures – inventors – lottery winners or celbrities of any kind.
I will listen to a guy who works his ass off all week – stays married for a long time – pays his taxes – doesn’t cheat or lie – and has some moral integrity.
The rest of them can keep their overpaid opinon to themselves.
I’m just saying……
Report Post »Locked
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:09pmEveryone is entitled to their opinion. But I don’t expect many insights from people who make a living of running into other people.
Report Post »AKMIIKEUS
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:11pmSo Tyree, put your money where your mouth is.
Why don’t you adopt some children that need a family.
Hundreds of thousand of children need to be adopted in this country. According to Tyree, children that need families/homes are better off in the foster system than a loving home.
Don’t you just love Tyree and his Right Wing Chritian views?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:39pm@LOCKED
And I don’t expect many insights from someone who came to this site pretending to be something he is not.
Did you watch both clips?
Maybe if you ran head first in to a few other people it would knock some sense in to you.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:49pmI support pro-athletes’ free speech, so it’s good they feel free to speak their minds.
As to the topic: Yes, acceptance of gay relationships, regardless of whether legislation is involved, will harm society as Tyree says – we are all partially defined by our genders.
But please do not miss that the reason we’re even having this discussion is because government is involved in marriage to begin with. There were no powers regarding marriage given to the federal government by our Founders in the Constitution because it’s none of the their business.
The way to combat the spread of acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle is to educate people. And if someone wants to still be gay, then that’s their inalienable right, just like it’s our inalienable right to have little to nothing to do with them if we want.
But we can’t use government to force someone to stop doing with their own freedoms what they want to do to themselves.
Vote for Ron Paul!
Report Post »Locked
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:49pm@Billy
I am what I am – a concerned fiscal conservative who’s tired of lamestream media and wants to see a good conservative candidate beat Obama in 2012. Or perhaps it’s me being a Christian but not agreeing that taking ideas from former professional football players even if they agree with my views is what offends you? I did in fact watch both, and made my comment. And if you wish to buy into the arguments of professional football players (on either side), that’s your choice. I’d definitely consider their knowledge about football… but about religion or politics? No thanks.
Report Post »Gail_B_Bell
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:56pmSomeone keeps deleting my posts but this amazing young man is a credit to his race!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 8:03pm@Locked
OK, I’ll ask you again. You never gave an answer last time.
What good conservative candidate are you backing?
Report Post »ABC123
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 8:11pmIf they teach our kids to be gay in school,
Only the Muslims will be having children,
We will be overtaken by a Muslim majority.
Sweet Jesus, save our souls !
Report Post »LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 8:16pmGreat post Showtime
Report Post »Locked
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 9:54pm@Billy
When did you ask? My views align best with Ron Paul. As a distant second, Romney. You exchange more of the good ideas for the popularity necessary to win. Combine them together, where BOTH sides haven’t made a mockery of Paul, and don‘t have Romney’s socialist healthplan and Mormonism baggage, and you’d have a perfect candidate. Thus the best idea would be a Romney/Paul ticket.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 10:22pm@Locked
Considering everything you said in your lead-up, do you seriously think that is a winning ticket?
No, of course you don’t.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 10:22pmPatriots fan here… and David Tyree’s “once in a lifetime” catch to secure the Giants SB win over the 18-0 Patriots was a sore spot.. but I like this guy now!
Report Post »Locked
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 11:06pmThe Rights of Billy. What lead-up? You mean that Ron Paul is maligned by both sides, and Romney has the baggage of his healthcare system and Mormonism? I think that if they stay focused on fiscal issues, yes, they could win. Possibly the ONLY ticket (potentially another VP, but as said, I like Ron Paul’s ideas).
Palin is far too polarizing, and with her behavior the past two years (quitting her governorship, embarking on reality TV), I feel she’s a new Donald Trump.
Bachmann and Santorum have no chance with independents.
Cain has no chance with anyone.
Perry and Pawlenty are relatively unknown except in their local areas. Pawlenty could be make an acceptable VP candidate.
Gingrich? He has people on all sides hating him – his only benefit is name recognition, but almost all the recognition is negative.
Honestly, I like Romney. I liked him more than McCain in 2008. Do his values fall in line perfectly with my own? No. But I never expected a perfect match. I do know that fiscally he’s more aligned with myself than any democratic candidate. Socially, he’s not as extreme as many other candidates. He’s the best chance Republicans have of reaching out to the middle, which they NEED for a victory.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 11:13pmI wonder how many gay football players agree?
Report Post »NOKOOLAIDDRINKER
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 11:16pmI agree with ERIC!!! Millionaires whether actors or athletes once they “MAKE IT” have no right to speak for the “normal/regular man” ever, period!!! They are then of the “elitist” class. Not qualified to speak for the average person.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 11:31pm@JZS
Only their Hairdressers know for sure.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 11:35pmWhenever people speak comtemptuously about actors and singers and look down on their jobs as frivolous, I always like to point out that they are part of an industry that brings billions of dollars into this country from the rest of the world every year. How many of us can still say that?
Report Post »Elena2010
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 12:18amI think I’m in love w/David Tyree! Straight shooter! You go, Guy!
Report Post »booger71
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 12:35amPeople are already free to marry whom ever they chose now anywhere in the country You have the power to leave your estate to anyone you choose even your dog. So it seems to boil down to putting your significant other on heath insurance, and adopting kids. Each state runs adoption services and the Feds can’t force a state to mandate gay adoptions per 10 Amendment. .Most Health insurance is from private corp ,and any government should not be able to force them otherwise. If they are looking for justification for their chosen lifestyle my mainstream America, don’t hold your breath.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 12:35am@Locked
My original opinion of you is unchanged.
You are Troll 2.0
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 1:13amwow booger, how uninformed or deceitful could you possibly be?
If you don’t have a will, your spouse gets it all, unless you’re not married
no, they are not allowed to get married – that‘s what they’re asking for.
If we got government out of the marriage business, as it should be, there would be no issues.
Your Church can marry whomever they choose.
There would still need to be Justices of the Peace, ships’ captains, etc., for non-religious people.
I have to assume there are athiests who get married.
Not everyone is required to have the same beliefs. It’s called FREEDOM.
We want to have manger scenes and say “Merry Christmas” and have lighted crosses on hills.
And we have the right to do it – we just have to fix our govt that keeps breaking the Constitution.
We want to pray and worship when and where we want – and we have the right to – we just need to fix our government.
But, we must also respect the freedoms of others to live THEIR LIVES as THEY see fit.
It is called FREEDOM.
FREEDOM is for EVERYONE.
ALL MEN are created equal.
Freedom is not just for people like you and me. It is for EVERYONE.
God bless America…
Report Post »AGAIN!
longhorn mama
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 3:21amGood for him! The Black community generally does not tolerate this crap. Lying to a homosexual and saying it is all ok IS NOT helping him. Hate the sin but love the sinner. Stand up for the truth. Don’t abandon these people to their condition. True love and honesty DOES NOT make you a homophobe.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 6:38amf you don’t have a will, your spouse gets it all, unless you’re not married
no, they are not allowed to get married – that‘s what they’re asking for.
All they have to do is make a will, pretty simple really, an no your wrong, gay people have marriage ceremonies all the time, may not have a marriage certificate, but in the sight of friends and themselves, they are still married.That’s all that matters not a sheet of paper. If we went to a consumption based tax instead of income, the tax issues would go away. Your right, the Federal government should get out of the marriage business, it is a State’s rights issue.
Report Post »Jackers
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 6:58amIn a free society, everyone has a right to speak out… Why would our government try to change 4,000 years of tradition… A major backbone of society where marriage is between a man and a woman in order to procreate…
Report Post »Locked
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 8:09am@Billy
I think your original opinion was wrong then, and it’s still wrong. Don’t like fiscal conservatives? Get off the board. I‘m sure MSNBC’s message boards would be more to your tune.
Report Post »Deuteronomy22
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 10:04amTyree also stands against same-sex adoption. He says:
“…you can‘t teach something that you don’t have. So two men will never be able to show a woman how to be a woman. That’s just, for lack of better terms, common sense.”—————————————————————
Report Post »Born in Livingston, New Jersey, Tyree grew up in a one-bedroom house in Montclair, New Jersey with his mother and two older sisters…—————————————————————————–
So Tyree was raised by one woman with this two sisters. So according to his logic he is not capable of being a mman as he grew up with only a woman parent brcause one woman wil never be able to show a man how to be a man. ““…you can‘t teach something that you don’t have.”
Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 11:16am@Locked
I love fiscal conservatives. As long as they are not socially to the left of Howard Dean.
You are not fooling anyone.
Report Post »ptcamn
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 12:42pm@Deuteronomy22
No. His point is that there is a reason for kids to come out of the union of a man and a woman. Men and women are wired differently, think differently, behave differently, and everything else down the line. A kid’s best development is achieved when she/he can have the influence of both the male and female parent, plain and simple.
Does that mean that if one of the parents dies the kid won’t be able to be raised ? Absolutely not. However, there is a huge impact in their life. While you bring up in what environment Tyree was raised, you have no idea how growing up without a dad impacted his personal life.
And this has nothing to do with love. Gay activists always bring up the “a gay couple can love a kid just as much as an heterosexual couple”. The issue is not love- everyone can love. The issue is that the growth process is not just about love but the psychological and developmental process that comes from having a male/female influence.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 12:57pmThere is no such thing as a “gay” football player! What are you liberals drinking – it’s not even 1 pm!
Report Post »There are ZERO Homos in the NFL! My goodness!
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 2:23pm@Deuteronomy22,
“So Tyree was raised by one woman with this two sisters. So according to his logic he is not capable of being a mman as he grew up with only a woman parent brcause one woman wil never be able to show a man how to be a man.”
Who‘s to say it wasn’t harder for him to understand the role of men while growing up in that household?
Besides, depending on his mother’s understanding of the need for young men to have male role models, it may be that Tyree was afforded the opportunity to benefit from mentors outside of his family.
So yes, his single mother household left something to be desired in the way of male identity, but as bad as that is, it is not as destructive as living in a gay household.
Report Post »thinkinghuman
Posted on June 17, 2011 at 2:34pmThis man may be a celebrity, but compared to the RACIST and JEALOUS comments here, he is so far above and superior to just about anything I have read here.
Report Post »The man speaks for me. I agree with him and he was so very well spoken. His brain, although he played football, is very superior. He could have done ANYthing in this life, and should be respected and not derided because he is also a celebrity. He was well spoken. Coherent. Intelligent beyond the norm.
I really think there are a lot of very strange Blaze posters, very strange personalities. All over the map, and arrogant too.