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Ex-Soldier: ‘Unspoken Code’ Encourages Military Women to Have Abortions

Bethany Saros Talks About Abortions in Military

Ex-soldier Bethany Saros claims that there's an un-written code for military women

Bethany Saros, a 27-year-old from Apple Valley, Minnesota, found herself in a tough position when she became pregnant while on a military deployment in Iraq. Now, the ex-soldier is coming forward to share her story — a tale that will likely be disconcerting to abortion opponents.

Saros claims that there’s an unwritten code in the military and that, by deciding to keep her baby, she violated it. While the sexually-active young woman used protection, she still ended up conceiving. In a piece on Salon.com, she described the disappointment her commanding officers felt as a result of the incident:

No one ever said to my face that they were disappointed in me, but I could see it in the eyes of my commander, my first sergeant and my boss. They all congratulated me but I sensed I had let them down in some way.

Bethany Saros Talks About Abortions in Military

Considering the horror of finding out one is pregnant while on the battlefield, the emotions she describes in the piece are understandable. This is especially true when considering one of the stigmas that Saros claims is well-known in the military. When a woman gets pregnant while on deployment, many assume that she did it on purpose.

Keeping the child, she says, isn‘t something that’s necessarily looked at as a favorable choice. She writes:

The unspoken code is that a good soldier will have an abortion, continue the mission, and get some sympathy because she chose duty over motherhood. But for the woman who chooses motherhood over duty, well, she must have been trying to get out of deployment. [...]

Instead of being seen as making a responsible parenting decision, you are seen as a faker, a soldier who couldn’t take the pressure and went to extreme lengths to get out. I’m sure there are some women who have.

Despite the challenges she faced concerning judgement from her peers and the higher-ups who were discontented with her decision, she decided to forge on with her pregnancy. Today, she’s married, has a second child and seems extremely happy with her choice to carry her pregnancy to term.

Read more about her story here.

(H/T: Daily Mail)

Comments (141)

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  • Eliasim
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:32pm

    You don’t need the military, but that you need God, because the military is rotten to the core.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:01pm

      Pregnant! How could this happen, exactly?

      TEA

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    • someonewhocares
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:10pm

      Just one of the liberals in the military.

      http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos

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    • aragona
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:21pm

      “No one ever said to my face that they were disappointed in me, but I could see it in the eyes of my commander, my first sergeant and my boss. They all congratulated me but I sensed I had let them down in some way.”

      Hmmm….no one ever said anything to her. They congratulated her. O-kay….

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:22pm

      This is pure BS. There is no code. They were probably disappointed because she violated general order #1. No sexual relations is part of the order. At least she didn’t get an abortion, but her perception is way off.

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    • DimmuBorgir
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:24pm

      THIS STORY IS BS!!!!

      women aren‘t encouraged and there’s no “unspoken code” about abortion. just crap

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    • JRook
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:27pm

      @johnokee1 You are correct sir as we can sum up her service to the US as. Deployed, Got pregnant, Dishonored myself, my unit, the Army and my country by reporting what I felt as being anything other than that and a lame attempt to get attention.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:33pm

      @HIDDEN_LION
      Which Unit are (were) you in… which had No Code?

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    • Winedude
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:36pm

      Your reliance on God amazes me. God can either prevent the horrible things in life from happening to us or not. If he can prevents them, but chooses not to, then God isn’t “All good.” If God is unable to control whether or not bad things can happen, then he isn’t “All powerful”. I have absolutely NO trust in people that put way too much faith in something they can neither see nor prove. Organized religion is pure ******** and dangerous to boot.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:48pm

      Luker
      35th Fighter Squadron. She violated orders period, but at least they congratulated her. Two TSgt in my unit were given art15′s for violating the order even though they were married to each other, all they did was enter each others living quarters.

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    • Locked
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:50pm

      @Hidden_Lion

      General order #1 was lifted in Afghanistan in 2008. It was, however, still in effect in Iraq. The order bans pregnancy; not sex (at least with married couples). That’s basically a clear “You should have an abortion” order.

      Let’s be clear. People are upset for two reasons: that an unmarried woman had sex, and even worse, that she’s a woman soldier. I have read zero condemnation of the man who knocked her up, who was also breaking general order #1 and ditched his responsibility to her and their child to reunite with an ex-girlfriend. The Blaze doesn’t even mention the rest of her story: that she served for five years before this happened, that she was married previously, and that a fellow soldier raped her.

      If she was married and got pregnant, people would complain that women shouldn’t be soldiers. If she had sex and got pregnant on leave, people would complain that she’s a whore anyway for having sex. The military’s rules have little to do with how people react to this.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 5:21pm

      Typical US Army mischief. This would never happen in the United States Navy. Even if we are talking shore duty in Hawaii.

      TEA

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    • Brooke Lorren
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 2:31am

      I spent several years in the military, including a couple on a ship. While on a ship, yes, you did feel like pregnancy could be letting your fellow soldiers down, and some might think that you did it on purpose to get out of deployment or something, but I don‘t think that there’s too many people out there thinking that abortion is the best solution.

      On shore, in fact, abortion was frowned upon in my division. I can remember one case where someone had to travel somewhere to get an abortion (it was illegal in the country we were in and the Naval Bases wouldn’t perform abortions, even if the baby had already died of natural causes), and it was not something we spoke highly of. Shore is different than deployment in that you can continue working at your job while pregnant, but I would think that the attitude towards abortion would be similar.

      Our XO got pregnant while on the ship (she was married), and not everybody was happy with that, but the negativity about the situation was mostly surrounding the fact that she was staying home and not doing any work, not because she was pregnant.

      I left the military eight years ago, so times could have changed, but people generally had more conservative attitudes while I was in.

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  • Locked
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:31pm

    Wow, read the linked article. This girl was not fit to be in the Army at all. Some excerpts:
    “I’d joined the Army right out of high school. The life had seemed so glamorous, and my recruiter swore up and down that I would be a world traveler. But as an innocent, home-schooled girl from the suburbs of the Midwest, I was unprepared for military life. I sobbed my way through basic training. As a child, my tears had been a way to pacify an overly strict father, so whenever my 4-foot-11 male drill sergeant got in my face, I dissolved into waterworks. It earned me the nickname of “Crybaby LeRoy.” It finally caught the attention of the female drill sergeant.”

    “By the time my boots hit the sand in Iraq, I was tired. I had spent the last five years getting pummeled by life in the Army — an abusive marriage, a nasty divorce, an unsuccessful relationship, getting raped by a co-worker, and an alcohol problem that had only added fuel to an already roaring fire.”

    She made a bad decision to join, even if it looked like her only option. I’m sorry for the difficulty she had, but there’s no way she should have stayed in the military if a fellow soldier raped her and she cried all the time. Army psych docs failed this one; no way she should have made it in at all or stayed after.

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    • JRook
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:42pm

      I would suggest that she has a problem with both reality and the truth. For example, someone who feels wronged enough by an unspoken code, would not report a rape. Or maybe she did, but then again reality is a fleeting concept with this one.

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    • The Sergeant Major
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 6:24pm

      Command should not EVER suggest an abortion! It’s a leadership issue if your troops are getting pregnant in a combat environment. Proper training, ensuring Army Values and letting your Soldiers know the operational effects of selfish and irresponsible activity are part of the big picture.
      I will always place the mission first.
      I will never accept defeat.
      I will never quit.
      I will never leave a fallen comrade.

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    • RossPoldark
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 4:40am

      Spoiled brat!

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    • apollo18
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 3:32am

      Ref: “Locked’s” letter, I agree with the SGT MAJOR. Where did her letter ever say that she joined to serve her country? Maybe I just missed it, but I didn’t see what her job was. I would never support an abortion. Where else are you allowed to have sex on the job and have your “command” congratulate you, out the door? THANK EWE, pat schroeder! I think whomever let her get that far did her a tremendous disservice. I know of commands that would find ways to “weed out” problems like that, before they ever left garrison.

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    • BCPATIOT
      Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:17pm

      Call me old fashioned,but I never thought a woman should be in combat or on the field. It causes way to much distraction…and idiotic things like this happen. And I’m a woman.

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  • garyM
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:30pm

    Maybe all these democrats are over here on the Blaze to get truth and change their life and not harass! Hey I’m an optimist!

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    • JRook
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:44pm

      Oh right the two great sources of truth Rush and GB. Unless you mean truth by making money off feeding the angry mob.

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  • garyM
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:30pm

    Maybe all these democrats are over here on the Blaze to get truth and change their life and not harass! Hey I’m an optimist!

     
  • Cameron
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:29pm

    I call BS. The looks she got was for SCREWING AROUND on the battle field. Big big no no. Take this story down BLAZE. Don’t fall for this crap.

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  • fishinhskr
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:26pm

    She is not Honoring this Country like that. I dont know what her MOS is but rest assured it is Not……Stay at home Mom. She entered an agreement to serve, with cuts to the military every head counts. Well, except hers now. People we need every gun and should not pay young single girls to have children and not perform the duties agreed to. Look no fan of abortion here, just discharge her and make room for someone who will honor the contract signed.

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    • JRook
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:31pm

      Well said. You really can’t have it both ways and this is exactly why people resist having them serve in combat situations. Deployed military units have enough going on that is actually related to the mission. I agree with the post that indicated she should be disciplined.

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    • BSdetector
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:40pm

      And take back all her pay and benefits for however long she signed up for, for breaking her contract.

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    • johnokee1
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:47pm

      Comments and sentiment such as yours is a disgrace. I have two kids that are Military bound and they absolutely do not look down on pregnancy. In fact they provide both parents with leave of absence.

      Because we believe in freedom, capitalism and life it doesn’t make one weak or unuseful…If they need to leave for a time. If your sick and working in a Corporation they don’t fire you for pro-creating. We need to reward people that do put their own ass on the line with at least if not more than the same benefits that our stupid and sick society does in day to day business. We want to multiply to outnumber and educate the fools who have been given over in their thinking.
      I am not OWS I am not Muslim I am and American with American values that began with a vision shared by men who believed that life is sacred and also you don’t win wars by infanticide.

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    • Locked
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:57pm

      It’s pretty obvious where the end point of all of this is. No one in the military should be having sex. Right? You’re not arguing about sex out of wedlock; it makes no difference if the person is married or not. What if a female soldier goes on leave, practices safe sex with her husband, and still gets pregnant? Exact same situation. What if a male soldier does the same? Now his wife is pregnant and he’ll be worrying about her: head not in the game.

      Puh-leaze. You’re all upset about a woman soldier having (safe) sex while not married. That’s all. No mention of the soldier who knocked her up. No mention of the one who raped her previously. Just all the blame on her.

      Accidents happen. At least she refused to have an abortion. She never should have been in the Army to start with, but when it came down to it, she made the decision she felt was the right one, in the face of overwhelming pressure from her friends and fellow soldiers. She deserves some respect, at least a little, for that.

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    • pjmarshake
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:18pm

      JOHN,

      The military is not corporate America. Getting pregnant in a combat zone does not equate to delays in submitting a TPS report due to being on maternity leave, especially when there is a standing order in all of the deployed locations that prohibits sexual contact.

      So not only did she degrade combat effectiveness, she violated orders.

      With that said, good on her for not getting an abortion.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:52pm

      Preggo’s just get sent home for deployed places. It is simple. No discharge required or warranted. She never signed anything declaring she would not have children. But, still there is no “code” to have abortions, and she shouldn’t be able to even get one in a military facility.

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  • Mapache
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:25pm

    Maybe she should not be having sex when deployed in a combat location. I sure didn’t when I was in Somalia in 94!

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    • nick e l
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:26pm

      Well stated.. your there to fight not f…….

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    • NSDQ
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:36pm

      Ha been there and didnt do that either

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  • garyM
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:23pm

    Speaking out for her right to have sex on the battlefield I guess! I‘m glad she didn’t get an abortion like a democrat! She just had sex like a democrat!

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  • nick e l
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:22pm

    You Can NOT serve as an active person in the military and be pregnant.. Active military personnel may be called to defend the U.S. at any time. She should be charged of dereliction of duty for getting pregnant. THIS is why women should not be in the military, not biased its just the facts jack. They are not equal, they are better since they can have children and we cant.
    Semper Fi.

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    • LiberalMarine
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:27pm

      Some of the best marines I have ever met were women and when I was a rifle and pistol instructor, they were a large part of my best shooters.

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    • Timothy_Reid
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:28pm

      That’s overdoing it. She should have been sent back, and put in an administrative position. When the baby was born there should have been a familiy care plan put in place as is normal procedure and then when she deployed again the child would go there. She wanted out of the service and this was the ticket. Seen it more times than I can count. Better that than have a soldier in the field who isn‘t committed to what they’re doing.

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    • Locked
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:31pm

      Wow, read the linked article. This girl was not fit to be in the Army at all. Some excerpts:
      “I’d joined the Army right out of high school. The life had seemed so glamorous, and my recruiter swore up and down that I would be a world traveler. But as an innocent, home-schooled girl from the suburbs of the Midwest, I was unprepared for military life. I sobbed my way through basic training. As a child, my tears had been a way to pacify an overly strict father, so whenever my 4-foot-11 male drill sergeant got in my face, I dissolved into waterworks. It earned me the nickname of “Crybaby LeRoy.” It finally caught the attention of the female drill sergeant.”

      “By the time my boots hit the sand in Iraq, I was tired. I had spent the last five years getting pummeled by life in the Army — an abusive marriage, a nasty divorce, an unsuccessful relationship, getting raped by a co-worker, and an alcohol problem that had only added fuel to an already roaring fire.”

      She made a bad decision to join, even if it looked like her only option. I’m sorry for the difficulty she had, but there’s no way she should have stayed in the military if a fellow soldier raped her and she cried all the time.

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    • Locked
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:32pm

      Sorry, meant that to be a stand-alone comment. As for your comment, meh, you’re a sexist jerk.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:36pm

      I’m a female and I can see your point.

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    • DimmuBorgir
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:29pm

      @ liberalmarine

      I call BS on you too. I never met a female marine I thought was outstanding. they’re mainly overweight and sleep around. but i notice how you put liberal infront of Marine, so i know where your heart lies.

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    • LiberalMarine
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 5:32pm

      @Dimmu

      Don’t judge all female marines based on the bad ones you knew. I am more than willing to bet there are some female MCMAP instructors who could whip you pretty easy.

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  • Survivor101
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:21pm

    The military has had a complete breakdown…they force condoms on soldiers as part of the deployment regardless of married status or not, they do not prosecute infidelity unless forced and in general allows g@ngb@ngs and everything else hedonistic to occur while deployed. My brother had a wife that kept enabling his problem by sending booze to him – he was a rockstar until someone outside the chain smelled he was drunk. Yes – I served and saw the women drop like flies from pregnancy…no – I did not partake. As a retiree, I understand “live today – you could die tomorrow” but it has gotten way out of control.

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  • garyM
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:20pm

    We should be proud of her for not aborting her baby but not proud of her for creating it on the battlefield out of wedlock!

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    • tlchands
      Posted on November 17, 2011 at 1:27pm

      Yeah, I can agree with that… but why do we only hear about the bad stories from the ARMY? Fort Hood was an Army incident, the contamination of food by enemy combatants that became our friends was Army…. we hear of an occasional marine, airforce or navy incident, but I can’t seem to remember the last time…

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  • garyM
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:17pm

    Restore the white house to the last known good configuration
    restore congress to the last known good configuration

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  • Godssailor
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:17pm

    It is more probable that the commander and sergeant may have been upset because when you become pregnant, you are taken away from your normal job and it leaves a gap that will not be filled, sometimes for months. You see, when you come up for orders, someone else receives orders to fill your position. That way, when you depart your current position someone steps in to fill the gap. When you leave due to a pregnancy, a request to fill your billet cannot be made until after the military recognizes your pregnancy. In some cases, you can be left in your current billet, but on light duty until the 20th week. Often times, being on light duty means you can’t do your job. So, someone else has to pick up the slack.

    Now I know there is someone out there who is saying, well the same thing happens when a service member is killed or is injured. I agree. However, those situations are usually due to something that was an accident or combat related and not completely preventable. Pregnancies are always preventable. Don‘t have sex and you don’t get pregnant. Some of us learned to go without for entire deployments, I think you can too.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:27pm

      Well see that’s why a full time military is a hideous thing, and if something is really worth fighting for then most people will get involved from the lowest to the highest members of society. Otherwise it is just an elitist game.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:29pm

      And that is truly the only reason God backed up the Founding Father’s of the United States.

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:26pm

      Eliasim

      What the H are you smoking? Without a full time military we would be like europe, a socialist black hole. Have you ever read the Constitution? “Provide for a strong National Defense”. As a matter of fact the military is the only authorized expenditure of the Federal Government as per the U.S. Constitution. Promoting the General Welfare shouldn’t cost a dime.

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  • Locked
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:17pm

    Tough choice for her to have the child; or so I would imagine, not being in her shoes. I would imagine there is exactly the sentiment that she described; many people would look at her getting pregnant as abandoning her mission. It’s similar to the unspoken code that encourages soldiers to hold in their emotional issues or any other complications (like, pre-DADT, their sexual orientation) that could jeopardize their mission or send them home. You’re making a choice to walk out on your brothers and sisters, and when you live in a situation where every soldier counts, there must be enormous pressure to be there for them and continue.

    Now, there’s no actual fall-out from it that I can see; she’s not being reprimanded, either formally or informally. People joining the military and expecting to see action overseas are likely not the ones who want pregnancy. So the story itself is interesting from a human interest angle, but I‘m not really sure there’s much else to be said or any actions to be taken.

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    • BelievinginAmerica
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:25pm

      Coodo’s for her keeping her child. Not one of you were in her shoes, so don’t criticize her for her decision. So many are so willing to make away with an innocent life. I’m Pro Life and her decision will live with her forever, not any of you!

      Who cares what others have done? That’s their story, not her’s. God Bless her and God Bless American!

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    • garyM
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:26pm

      Spoken like a true liberal democrat!

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    • Locked
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:50pm

      Not sure to whom Garym is responding, but it seems he (or she?) has no real thoughts to spare. This soldier was screwed (pun intended) no matter what. She’d be damned by social conservatives because she was having sex; if she aborted, she’s a whore and a murdered; if she didn’t, she’s a whore and a coward. In no case is she simply a soldier caught up in a bad situation who made the best decision she felt she could.

      I also notice no one condemned the soldier who knocked her up and then refused to take responsibility for the child, instead running back to an ex-girlfriend while on leave. Or that this girl had previously been raped by a fellow soldier. Odd that The Blaze would completely leave the men in this situation completely out while heaping hatred on a woman deigning to have sex. It takes two to tango, folks.

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  • engineered2win
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:15pm

    From what I understand, you can‘t get pregnant if your DON’T HAVE SEX. Seeing that fraternization is a violation of UCMJ they should both be punished.

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  • VaVetVoice
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:15pm

    I am proud of her, for her service and her choice of Life!

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    • garyM
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:28pm

      Another true democrat! including having sex on the battlefield as ok…huh!

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  • garyM
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:14pm

    We didn’t have this problem in the past of women getting pregnant on the battlefield. Many other problems we didn’t have both in the military and government. What is the quickest and best way to fix it?
    What do we do when our computers get so far out of whack they are not working!
    “RESTORE TO LAST KNOWN GOOD CONFIGUATION”

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  • LiberalMarine
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:13pm

    If so many didn’t get pregnant to end their deployment, there wouldn’t be the assumptions that she did as well by her commanders.

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  • Eliasim
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:09pm

    Are you sure that the military didn’t cause the abortion of a certain somebody, and that’s why God is ripping this world apart?

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  • Chet Hempstead
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:07pm

    Girls are lucky. If a guy realizes he’s made a horrible mistake and decides to get out of a battle zone before he gets killed, he has to shoot himself.

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  • JLGunner
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:07pm

    As an adult and knowing the fallout of getting pregnant while deployed, nevermind mothering an illegitimate kid, she should have shown better discression.

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  • Obama_Sham
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:05pm

    “When a woman gets pregnant while on deployment, many assume that she did it on purpose.”

    Because, most of the time, that is the case… I’m not saying Ms. Saros did it on purpose, but I have personally seen this tactic used over and over again… Then, on second thought, from a certain point of view, she did do it on purpose… She willfully acted in sexual intercourse…

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    • BelievinginAmerica
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:19pm

      I‘m surprised Obama hasn’t come up with a shot to permanently make women soilders infertile. That would be his highest atainment in every women’s life. I really don’t know how Michelle convinced him to have 2 children. He really belongs in China!

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    • Melvin Spittle
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:32pm

      This is one of the consequences of using the military as the preferred test bed for social policy. Although there are a minority of women that can hack it in tactical units, it has been my experience that they are in general not physically strong enough to handle the demands of the heavy lifting that male soldiers perform routinely. An example is the lifting of cable reels that are a two man task as they weigh over 80 lbs. The reels at one time were labeled “2 Man Lift” but are now labeled “4 Person Lift”. The problem with this is that you cannot get four persons on a reel without stepping on each others toes. This new politically correct military is full of unworkable policies such as this.

      When you have men and women deployed together in close quarters 24/7 for an entire combat deployment, sexual misconduct will happen routinely. I did not get replacements for my female soldiers that became pregnant within a month of a known deployment to Iraq. This seriously impacted my platoons combat readiness! Of the 23 females in my platoon of 60 soldiers, 7 of them ended up pregnant. Of that 7 that could not deploy, four of them sought and received abortions within a couple of weeks after we deployed. That alone confirmed to me that they used pregnancy to avoid combat deployment.

      I will gladly debate anyone that thinks combat readiness is not impacted by policies to integrate women and homosexuals into the tactical combat force.

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    • pjmarshake
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:08pm

      Melvin,

      You are correct.

      Check out the web page for the Center For Military Readiness.

      http://www.cmrlink.org/WomenInCombat.asp?DocID=237

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  • Eliasim
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:04pm

    And are you sure that the military doesn’t cause some abortions?

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  • lukerw
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 2:58pm

    These Codes… varry from Time to Time, Place to Place, and Unit to Unit… but they are Real!

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    • Marci
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:05pm

      She’s not telling the whole story. While I sympathize with her, peer pressure is not a policy, it’s what you feel.

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    • EODGhost
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:16am

      BS. I spent 10 years in the military and never, ever heard of a Code to force abortions.
      She simply wanted to get out of her deployment and go home.
      Spoiled, Liberal brat…Period!

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  • watashbuddyfriend
    Posted on November 15, 2011 at 2:57pm

    Thanks Bethany Saros for standing up, and speaking out!

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    • Timothy_Reid
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:09pm

      speaking out against what exactly?

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    • Reconbubba
      Posted on November 15, 2011 at 8:13pm

      This is the equivalent to a male soldier “accidentally” shooting himself in the knee while deployed. I can not speak about an unwritten rule but I do the know written rules regarding sexual deviancy while serving in a combat zone. So yes, thank you for speaking out and letting everyone know you can not follow simple instructions and for putting extra work on those who are responsible and already overworked. Pregnancies in combat zones should end with DISHONORABLE discharges for all involved.

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